Welcome to Oneirosophy General. Oneirosophy means "dream wisdom".The fundamentals:>Every single one of us live in their own reality. Your world is your private dream.>What you truly are is an "open space of awareness" in which experiences arise. >Reality is idealistic (Idealism: All of waking reality is a mental structure, a dreamed reality).>As you progress on your path, trought techniques, knowledge and understading of the subjective experience, you increace further lucidity (Lucidity: A state similar to gnosis or satori where one regains consciousness of the illusory nature of waking reality, just as one becomes lucid in a dream). >An open mind combined with healthy caution is the correct mindset for all approaches targeted at the subjective experience. Never believe something without personal evidence; never dismiss something without personal evidence.# Main Sources:>DimensionalJumping Indexhttps://old.reddit.com/r/DimensionalJumping/comments/38c3yk/how_to_jump_between_dimensions/>Original Forumhttps://old.reddit.com/r/Oneirosophy/>Collection: TG Compedium (v1.3)https://rentry.org/irf6ar89# For beginners:>Anons Codexhttps://pastebin.com/kxv4p11w>"Just decide" Exercise https://old.reddit.com/r/Oneirosophy/comments/2hesk3/just_decide/>"Dream Food Delivery" Exercisehttps://files.catbox.moe/osrtxc.png (embed)# Extra resources:>The Nature of Dream Control, by "The Cusp"https://rentry.org/xchivee3>Carlos Castanedahttps://archive.org/details/cc-all-books-in-one-20-texts-interim-versionTriumphantGeorge on Carlos ideas: https://old.reddit.com/r/Oneirosophy/comments/35v1kv/some_insights_from_lucid_dreams/crg6s87/>Universal Linedrive.google.com/drive/folders/1X9dB7eDI5RcHOBvixGjAhZ_lgJjJIhGqhttps://archive.org/details/UL-the-complete-worksPrevious thread: >>41151634
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Added latest version of the TG Compedium to the sticky.>PDF Document Formathttps://files.catbox.moe/vycq60.pdf>Editable Pre-Formated Text for Rentryhttps://files.catbox.moe/1h8fsu.txtChanged the codeberg link in the OP as requested, also.
How long (in hours, days, weeks, etc)/how many read-throughs of v3 should it take for a person to "get it" and start seeing results? What should it feel like?And why is everything so damn vague with this kind of stuff? It is as if the community consists of the "gurus" and then followers who are new to novice, and anyone who moves beyond that drops out of the discussion. Is that because once you "get it" you just naturally move on? Why are there no public chats, threads, forums, subreddits, chans of people living their wildest dreams using these techniques? I've asked this before in NG, magick, and other communities, and I have never received a satisfactory answer. It seems that intermediate practitioners and their insights would be extremely useful to novices - for instance, I recently read the UL Anon oneside complete collection, it was very illuminating. I'm surprised that the discussions on these boards aren't more like that - with intermediate practitioners bridging the gap between the new and the teachers like LP and TG.And that isn't to say I have doubts - there seems to be enough irrefutable evidence (including personal experiences, though poorly controlled) that this aspect of reality exists and can be engaged with. It's just that the communities and their discussions strike me as odd, in a way that I can see why many people not in the know would initially view UL and any other reality-manipulating school of thought based on spirituality as a scam, if only based on the user base and discussions themselves.
I dont pay attention to my dreams and Im better off for it
>>41180299Who the hell is LP? Linkin Park?
>>41180394*JP
>>41180299Also, TG was not a teacher. He was just simply based as fuck.
>>41180458...ok?
>>41180207Oh hey I recognized this album cover from the catalog lmao
Dream I had last night:I was on a bus and a red haired nun sat next to me. I was sitting by the window.She wanted to lay down and I offered her a pillow / Blanket to roll up and put by her head. Then she laid across my lap with the pillow on the window to my right side. I rested my hand on her hip as she laid there along my lap. It was beautiful how draped she was along me.
>>41180299i think until you're able to recognize the fact that you are oap and know it as true as you know 1+1=2 you wont see results, maybe im wrong. its your own private dream and you make the rules after all
>>41180967Fully agreed. Do whatever it makes you get it. Rereading UL, reading other books, thinking on your own, etc
>>41181307right, what i gathered studying this for years now is that there not gonna be an "oh shit" revelation from a post or a success story(in most cases). its more of an eureka moment when it all clicks after grasping the material and you live in the knowing of your true nature as oap,god,line etc.we can sum it up as much as we can but ultimately "knowing" comes from mechanically understanding that we are line,oap or "presence" dreaming itself as an ego identitykeep persisting and the more times we go voer the material the more things we see that didnt make sense beforecurrently i am fully aware of the mechanical fact that i am one all person, but i havent fully embodied the identity or self concept of what is basically god. but its me waving this limitation through the proof loop. im just dreaming myself as not "being" it.thumbs up tho
>>41180844dignified and well-informedI appreciate the anons who resonate via imagery
oneirosophy (what a gay ass name) eternally BTFO'd by Neville GODdard, cope and seethe boys
>>41181645You posted this twice, we are thankful for your bumps
>>41178197you said you have Aphantasia, are you capable of “visualizing” the way things feel tactically? Or “visualize” a scent? Or just simply “visualize” what it felt like to not have those medical issues?ever tried to meditate laying down rather than sitting? have you used used binaural beats to help you focus and tune into the trance-like state? ever read Dr. Joe Dispenza? I believe he had some intense medical issues he eventually manifested away, so his books Becoming Supernatural/You Are the Placebo or his many meditations may be helpful - I haven’t delved deep into Joe Dispenza so I’m not 100% sure exactly his approach.you have said that you healed your back before with some "woo-woo" kind of book I’d think that the best place to start would be at the beginning. go back to that book or author or school of healing, did you do whatever you did to help with your back pain with those techniques first.After that see about tactile visualization and emotional/feeling visualization. If you struggles with tactile, you can practice it with object work. Do something with a physical object, then put it down and redo the same action with nothing but muscle memory and to keep repeating that, as well as practice with as many different objects as possible, until you start to get the muscle memory of how things feel, their texture, weight, temperature, shape, etc.The other thing that will perhaps blow your mind is if you’re not sure how something feels, look at an object and imagine licking it, you can almost always know exactly what the object will feel like when you imagine licking it
>>41179532The Perennial Philosophy, by Aldous Huxley
>>41180844I really enjoyed this HLH Album pretty much exactly 10 years ego. The other albums never caught onto me
>>41180207>Every single one of us live in their own reality. Your world is your private dream.Wrong again, /x/.
>>41183309I loved the first three albums of HLH. My favorite was Dissonants. Across the first three i felt that their music got better and better but after that point on it became an entirely different band.
>>41183309Pretty much exactly the same. Wisteria has always struck me as really corny but I like the song. Fun to sing along with, if that's your thing.
>>41180151Yeah, was a nice dream. Want to do it again
What specific phrases or explanations have worked best for you anons so far? It’s interesting because it seems that some explanations trigger a feeling that points to the revelation of the underlying presence. It also seems like different points make more sense with each reexamination.
>>41184055It's a "different paths, same destination" kind of thing. It's also about thinking some things like, "why can i have ideas? where are they? and my inner dialogue and imagination? from where that comes from too?" in a purely raw inquisitive style to lead the answers arise by themselves. After that, it's comes down to finding the right metaphor that's useful or attractive to you, which make things more fun.
>>41184096What are some metaphors that you use? or have seen others successfully use?
>>41184096> …make things more fun.Yes, that’s the heart of it. Well put. There’s a conversion point of true and fun and when one finds it - boom!
>>41184109>What are some metaphors that you use?I like this one: The Eternal Psychonaut.>or have seen others successfully use?I remember SMAnon using a dualistic metaphor about "the source" to define presence, so i guess there's that, for example. >>41184142You got it.
>>41184055I've come to the conclusion that I am God and the One Aperture of Awareness as well. That everything I perceive is just my dream. All characters being dream character hylics.This is pure peace.
>>41184218Basically, there's no 'we're all God wearing many masks!' Self == God. 1:1. One Awareness. One Aperture. Me.
Which UL version made you understand One-Thing the best? There are so many PDFs in complete works and I just wanna see which one is the most worthwhile
>>41185249Imo, these ones:>I Am Totality>Advanced Financial Gain>Original Cosmic Supreme MasterThese are my top 3 UL documents.
>>41185271Any good audio of these?
>>41186738I don't know if there is one of any of the other two but I remember the Original Cosmic Supreme Master being available in youtube.
>your own private dreamIt's pretty obvious this is some kind of collective dream. Especially when you start experimenting with manifesting both privately and publicly. Humans have a lot of untapped power that is usually coopted against themselves.
Is this general related to lucid dreaming at all? I don't see much conversation about it in the few threads I've looked
>>41187565This is what never made sense to me; if this was a private dream, it'd mean only 1 person could manifest things in one private dream/world.
>>41187565>It's pretty obviousHe tells a story and believes it. Have fun in the proof loop.
>>41187715One all person.
>>41187700Dreams and reality are /one/ and the same.
>>41187565That's why I can't accept the usual LoA/UL stuff, even if their techniques are useful and effective. The spirits I'm in contact with are adamant they are real and they're not me.
>>41189206There's a section in UL that talks in detail about souls contracts. Ironically, any gripe you have with entities is to ultimately realize that you're in control of them. Here's a cool insight from some other wizard somewhere:>"what are you gonna do punch them all?". I dislike saying things like this because it might get some foolish and reckless people into trouble... but it needs to be said. What if I will punch each and everyone? What if I will go and hunt down their signatures on all planes of existence? What if I will remove them because they have no value for anything and anyone? Many entities understand this and willing to become "suddenly" reasonable as a result. Intent and presence is the key. They know when they are in a deep shit and the balance of power is not in their favor.
>>41187715P2P theory and TG suggest that we all own a private copy of the world, which is a great way to see it if you don't want to go full blown solipsism.
>>41187715I think its a matter of a switch. We do desire at times things to be random and out of our control, and sometimes that's stuff made by others. So i think we chose to be in a reality with others and that is a collective reality. However you can always chance back
Is adam kadmon OAP? >The soul of Adam HaRishon (“the first man”) was the supreme essence of mankind. It contained within it all subsequent souls. >Closely related to the Philonic doctrine of the heavenly Adam is the Adam Ḳadmon (called also Adam ‘Ilaya, the “high man,” the “heavenly man”) of the Zohar, whose conception of the original man can be deduced from the following passages: “The form of man is the image of everything that is above [in heaven] and below [upon earth]; therefore did the Holy Ancient [God] select it for His own form.”[6]
UL TLDR in one image
bumping as oap
>>41190729Based. We will unite our dreams and days.
>>41185271Where can I find that Advanced Financial Gain text? I've seen it mentioned quite a few times in many of the posts linked in the OP, but I don't know where to look for the thing itself. From what I can tell, it seems to be the most practical straightforward one of the bunch, based on what everyone's been saying.
>>41191742Let me help you with thathttps://archive.org/details/UL-the-complete-worksDownload this document and start reading from page 281, it has both part 1 and 2. >seems to be the most practical straightforward one of the bunch, based on what everyone's been saying.Imo, yeah, it is. I like every single UL document tho, so may be biased :p
>>41191797Thanks lad. I was only a little over a hundred pages into that one, so I guess I just hadn't made it that far yet.
>>41192093You're welcome lad.
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