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Fellow Binaural enjoyers I present you this:
https://files.catbox.moe/svby5z.ogg (embed)

Basically its just a record from this site
https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/pureBinauralBrainwaveGenerator.php
It begins with more harmonics and then tones down to specific frequencies, going from Alpha to Theta.
Its also sort of timed with bells, so you focus on different steps
> first one minute: preparation relax your muscles
> five minutes: low alpha, breathing exercises
> ten minutes: move into theta, count down get into SATS (there is a double bell, it was sort of a mistake but helps focus I guess)
> twenty minutes: high delta, deep SATS, you may call it hypnogia (can't spell that), sleep paralysis or F12
> last twenty minutes: mid delta, tones down a bit, move into deep sleep

I think this been working really well, if anything it should put you into deep solid relaxing sleep.
Stage three is where you should start focusing on your scene btw, as soon countdown finishes or you feel relaxed enough.
Stage four, is great but really requires focus to keep awake, then just let yourself drift off into sleep.

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say in your mind,
say to yourself:

i am more than my physical body.

because i am more than physical matter
i deeply desire to expand,
to experience,
to know,
to understand,
to control,
to use
such greater energies and energy systems
as may be beneficial
and constructive
to me and to those near to me.

also:
i deeply desire the help and cooperation,
the assistance, the understanding
of those individuals
whose wisdom, development and experience
are equal or greater than my own.

>>41440940
Thank you for writing this one out
I was about to go back and look it up.

Thanks Anon, I'm not ready. I'm here in samsara to enjoy the sorrow and the glory. It's just too boring back home.

i've experienced something odd (or maybe it's normal). i've been doing semen retention in conjunction with the gateway tapes for about a month. never before has it been so easy to get to focus 10. it takes about a week to get back to this level of concentration after expending my.. sexual energy, i think the /srg/ bros are onto something.

>do a tape last night 8h
>end up sleeping through almost 5h
>mess up for some time until dawn
>go back and do the sleep discovery tape
>do it twice, really sleepy but didn't get there
>about 4 hours going in and out,
goddamn,

I was pretty interested in the gateway tapes for a while. until someone posted excerpts from monroes diary or something that said he was just huffing glue the whole time

Anyone had success with the communication tapes, talking with "non physical friends" ?

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And once again I stumble upon this pearl from Avantasia

Oh craving devour me, take me away
Oh to infinity, take me away

Take me away
Oh yeah take me away
Far away

Don't you turn your face to the night sky
Said the fainthearted one
You may see through the charades
An instant that won't come undone

I can feel the ease of my pain
Decline of the blood reason level
Gazing in awe bystanders scream
Mentally critical fettle

We're sailing on gentle waves
We read the sky

Stargazers, stargazers
Behold the key
Stargazers, stargazers
Infinity
Reason left behind

Where are you detecting the wrongs
Spirit that always denies
I've gone insane
Release me from waiting
For the sparkle to rise

I can see they're nailed to the cross
Cannot live till they're gone
Immortal they cry on terrestrial embers
While they laugh at the clown

You feel a chill as if time stood still
There's no way out

Stargazers, stargazers
Behold the key
Stargazers, stargazers
For a lucid dream
You'll leave the world behind

...

When the sun rose to wake another day
They were gone, gone without a trace
Babylon, craving in lucidity
Babylon, the fire will remain

And the sun razes from their memory
What the dark had cyphered in the sky
And the flame's burning their lucidity
Babylon, rise up to the night

Oh, let us wander
Let us wander between the worlds
We override their principles
Abrogate horizons
Abandon mental gravity
Oh, we overrule the eye
Compromise your sanity
To heaven
To hell

>>41440997
Yeah I've noticed it too, if SR has any benefit this is it.
If anything, it also works the other way around, I've gone on accidental abstinence from doing too much mind stuff.
Of course there were relapses, and lately, even though I'm holding out, I feel reawakened sexually.

>>41440940
Hippy bullshit

>>41443097
you simply wouldn't get it. until you hear his voice instructing you while deeply relaxed with hemi-sync (binaural beats), you're not going to understand.
his books are excellent as well, they are not new-agey or "hippie-coded" at all. they are very clinical which i think gives them more credibility. the gateway tapes are simply an extension of them, he is wanting to assist anyone to have the same experiences that he has. at the very least, they help with relaxation and trance state.

you should try it, unless you're scared of muh CIA subliminals

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Time to run
Savior in the clockwork tell me
For how long will I wait on the grind
Time flies on
(Time will fly on)
Savior in the clockwork take me back inside
In between the time

Now am I half asleep or half unconscious
Half 'adream?
I can't move as I am stuck in bright lucidity
I can feel and hear and see
But I won't comprehend
I see fire that I won't decipher
I see giant evil tower to a blackened sky
I feel blessed with evidence of what I can't define
Swinging blade of the lowering perpendicular
I see clarity I won't remember
Do I dream
Is it only fantasy and matter just a thought I see
And time is all they need to seal away eternity

...chorus

You pry into a world too far above
Your head up in the haze
Journey to the birth of the first sun
Into the black womb of space
Father primal space oh yeah
Who's drawn the light

Standing at the door to epiphanic realisation
A journey to the centre of forever
To the mystery of creation
Don't you hear the voice: I'm with you
I'm everywhere and real
You can see me, you can hear me without credence
I'm what your hands can feel

God, I feel I've been away too long
I feel like I've been dreaming
If you'd open up your door to explanation
You would hear the voice of reason screaming
I've seen the ocean swallow the ancient harmony
And I've seen belief and craving swallow sanity
I feel my hand is led to ink between the lines
Tall stories legendising: Figments of the lie

At crack of dawn hazy remains above my mind
Raise your mind
I scribble down those icons that I can't define
Will they demand account as I'd demand myself
Raise your mind
I'll never testify what no man comprehends
And they will tear to pieces what they can't define
Raise your mind
If you don't follow your self-preservation drive
They'll crucify the one who won't affiliate
Raise your mind
But decorate the children of their own ego's way

...chorus

I feel like this is the only thread where I can safely post my experience. I'm more interested in the opinion of those who OOBE/AP.

It's been a very long time since I had my first out-of-body experience where I was floating through my house and outside while simultaneously having a consciousness in bed. I had multiple AP experiences after. I also experimented with the brainwave generator. My main technique became open-eyed cross-eyed meditation. Its effects were immediate. Vivid dreams, detailed memory recall, lucid dreams and ultimately AP through LD.
About a year later I experienced a tingling sensation in the middle of my forehead, at first it was just faint but over the course of a few months it grew stronger. The same sensation also started to occur on the top of my head, the middle of my palms starting with the right, and multiple other spots on my head (the sides, back). At this point I already wasn't meditating regularly anymore, but did experience AP etc at a reduced frequency without trying. After around half a year this sensation peaked. All of these locations on my head and palms that I mentioned, were now "tingling" or emanating something permanently. I describe it as something magnetic, electric, etheric (mass-like), some sort of cold stream. I can "connect" with it, play with it, create "psi balls". I can sort of "amplify" it through meditation or by merely thinking about it.
The reason i'm writing this is, I don't really have a grasp at what's going on and it's been many years since. I researched, I asked "experts" or wannabe experts. The generic qi/prana/chakra/energy "explanations" don't really say anything profound. I've never heard of this being just there, forever. I tried not doing anything, too, just to see what would happen. I'm really frustrated over this, not because it's annoying but because I don't know how to proceed. I picked up "energy work" and stuff like that, and while that is fine it didn't change anything.

Tried them for fun. Followed his instructions and saw some oscillating rings and corridors initially. Kept going and started feeling very dissociated and thinking I could read people's minds. I would listen to the instructions later and would black out and when I came out of it, my leg muscles would be spasming like crazy, almost like I was having a seizure. Started having weird dreams. The strangest was when a woman that looked like a stereotypical Pleiadian came into my room. She was wearing something like white futuristic samurai armor. I was extremely scared, but forced myself to grab her foot which melted in my hand. Later I saw some kind of purple blob next to my bed. Again, I was extremely scared, but it didn't do anything so I just looked at it. I was awake when that happened. I am not sure about all of this, but they definitely do something to your mind.

Just started Wave III last night, when the prompt to float comes up, I kinda feel the movement, even sort of a pull, almost a vertigo like feeling, but I still feel very much the weight of my own body against the bed.
Its this normal, should I repeat it until I get or should I keep going with the tapes?

>>41438450
After my first session, I got to focus 5. After I came out of it, I pretty much have never left focus 3. I haven't tried to go deeper to be honest.

>>41446614
>I haven't tried
Well there you go...

I have several literal decades of extensive experience with the subject. It's unfortunate that most humans don't discover this for themselves. I am just an ordinary human but they react to simple descriptions of the activities and interactions in the subspace realms as if it were some self aggrandizing egomaniacal delusional claim.. it's just ordinary stuff that they are experiencing too only they are rejecting their own deepest subconscious awareness instead of directing their conscious mind to observe their own existence during the time they are sleeping ..as well as other times they are experiencing subconscious engagements with things that they are not consciously aware of.

The function of the implants of the beings from the stars is to serve as a direct link to your consciousness through your own nervous system and physiology. Once you have the equipment installed their routine visits do not require physical engagement to involve your consciousness being moved into their own technologies of communication. Far beyond our level of using television and telephone they have various platforms for interacting with our out of body consciousness. They have formats similar to the holodeck concept.. formats similar to the concepts shown in the movie avatar.. or inception.. or the matrix
Once you are accustomed to their technology you can see even more than they are bringing with them technologically to see the world around us in ways not available to our ordinary physical material presence.
We are not alone in subspace realms just beyond our physical bodies..
You can learn how conscious perception of out of body presence functions to gain more insights into our existence than our linguistics are able to accommodate.. inadequate conceptual nomenclature.. words and concepts can be established by a community that shares the knowledge and experience.
Historical examples exist that are misinterpreted and disregarded by academia that lacks the insight to correctly interpret

>>41449802
...
You are already doing more than you know in your own subconscious awareness of your own existence beyond the physical material of our existence. The reality is that your own deepest awareness doesn't mind that your conscience awareness is indulging in delusion and even assists it in propping up false belief and radical faith in the irrational indoctrination of the world. This is what you are up against in the effort to learn how to perceive with the mind

>>41449802
Interesting. I've been doing the tapes on & off for some months when I have some time. I think I've reached about halfway, probably the 25th tape. I don't know if I'm going too fast and should instead "grind" the same tapes for a while in order to get better at the various exercise? Because I don't know if I'm doing them good, I don't have any feedback, it's all in my head. The "consciousness expansion" thing for example, how do I know that I'm actually doing it well? I can imagine what lies beyond my room and visualize it but is that "consciousness expansion"?

>>41438450
Focus 10 was alright, focus 12 was shit, he didn't even explain how to enter it and what it's supposed to be like, I gave up there.
Wish there was more guidance for these tapes but I've got a feeling they're fake and no better than any other binaural sounds you can listen to and doze off to

( I am >>41423412 )
I did 6.1 "Sensing Locale 1" and 6.2 "Expansion in Locale 1" these last two nights, and it seems that for weeks I got focus 12 wrong and I only realize it now... I thought focus 12 was about leaving your body and feeling in the void, but it's not, is it?

>>41450213
The only focus that has some impact on your mind state is 10 and the first few tapes at that, all the rest is just counting to a different number and expecting to magically be in some other state that's not even described correctly.
I've actually managed to manifest something while in F10, not because I wanted to but because I had an intrusive thought I couldn't get rid of and it was sorta related to something I really needed.
My conclusion was just use whatever you like, the people using gateway to reach higher states could probably do without, it's just a nice larp. Just like you can dress up as an F1 driver just for keks if you're already a master behind the wheel

>>41450034
I discovered the reality of out of body consciousness mostly due to interactions with native American heritage friends and acquaintances prior to any of this Monroe institute material becoming public.
The tapes are a tool most useful in group managed development projects. What you can do on your own is far more than that tool is even describing.
Disciplined ability to focus has value. Wild open perception of what exists beyond the ordinary physical material is a far range goal for what you might direct it towards. Natural awareness of the connections that cause cognitive perception targeting to function can reveal more than the Monroe institute is offering to teach. You have to be your own guidance. It's not exactly easy or fast

>>41438450
LMAO sure bud. These tapes have all been tampered by OP. Subliminal BBC worshipping. ROFL.

>>41450034
Try to become fully conscious during the time your body is asleep. Try watching yourself relaxing your body to prepare to go to sleep and then watch yourself from within your mind eyes closed watching as you become more relaxed and then going through the changes as your body goes to sleep.

Watch as you return to being awake.. and before you move a muscle.. even an eyelid.. look within your mind for any memory you have of where you were just before returning to being awake in your body.. grow your ability to see the cognitive imagery within your mind. Learn to examine any image within your conscious awareness to trace it back to the moment it arrived within your mind.

There is a lot to be discovered that people are missing because they imagine that they already know.

Read the book by Atwater

>>41450340
>>41450034
This one
https://www.amazon.com/Captain-My-Ship-Master-Soul/dp/3911151020

>>41443602
do you have any health issues? how did you start to experience the OBEs?

>>41443709
wtf how are you people so hypnotizable? I wanna be so badly but I can't, my mind is chaos and I'm its tyrant

I just never get these to truly work. I feel nice doing them but never had any major OBE despite really wanting one. I've tried going in with as little expectations. I've tried redoing stuff over and over. I just don't get what I'm doing wrong. I don't even know if I've doing focus 10 right. Is it just simple relaxation or something deeper? When I try to do the OBE exercises I often feel like I'm moving my real physical body even when I don't want to, I feel myself almost lifting up my body and it wakes me up and I just lie their frustrated that I wasted 15 minutes to achieve nothing.

>>41450279
>all the rest is just counting to a different number and expecting to magically be in some other state that's not even described correctly
wrong,
>>41450213
>I thought focus 12 was about leaving your body and feeling in the void, but it's not, is it?
Its said how each individual experiences these states differ.
Personally at least, F10 is like body sleep but still conscious, while F12 its almost unaware of one's body and very much a hypnogogic(?) where imagination starts to get more vivid.
Depending on the individual, they may experience this as sleep paralysis or not, I for one never had paralysis.
A couple of early tapes touch a bit on leaving your body (discovery sleeping), but mostly its a preview, maybe preparation.

>>41450116
>but I've got a feeling they're fake and no better than any other binaural sounds you can listen to and doze off to
The tapes are just guidance and aid, there is no "magic" by themselves, all the work is done within the mind.

>>41450412
> all the work is done within the mind
And that's exactly what I said, just use whatever you think sounds good and makes you relaxed and then mentally enter states you wanted to.
For me it's more of mechanical/industrial sort of binaural beats, for some other people natural sounds are better

I feel kind of fuzzy and detached, and relaxed, at the REBAL step and I always have the impression I MIGHT have an OBE when they start those specific beats, so I cut out that bit of audio and let it play for 30 minutes but sitll nothing

>>41450372
No, I don't have health issues.

I started by writing down my dreams and eventually got into regular lucid dreams. The next year I got into reading the techniques by Robert Bruce and started doing affirmations by falling asleep which then led me to a dream where I recited the affirmation, went lucid and instantly left my body.
Later, after experimenting with binaurals and the meditation I mentioned, I didn't need to do much of anything to trigger an OOBE. I went to bed, had sleep paralysis episodes and exited my body into this realm or, what happened far more often, found myself in another place or something that was clearly similar to my room but clearly not. Back then I could still tell the difference between a lucid dream and an astral experience but I was still very much dismissive whenever I wasn't in the physical world because I wanted it to be something real and not a delusion.

Can someone figure out the exact binaural used in the F10 tapes and post it here? Monroe's voice is kinda distracting and I don't like waiting or timing when I'm supposed to think of what, wish there was just the tune to listen to

>>41450719
bump

Just started today.
So far the only thing i had noticed were purple spots whey i have my eyes closed

>>41438450
I've spoken of my experiences before, not in a Gateway thread, but I believe in an astral projection general and was brushed off.
What I saw matched what I've heard people discuss about "The Park" as it was a resort like area. I experienced this before knowing anything of the process, I only knew the tapes were supposed to aid in relaxation and meditation, next thing I knew I felt vertigo through a tunnel of blue light and I slowly faded into another place.

>>41450702
>but I was still very much dismissive whenever I wasn't in the physical world because I wanted it to be something real and not a delusion
how could you be so sure you were not seeing something real? If there is anything to learn from this experience is understanding that even if its energy or ethereal, it can still be real.
Anyway, would mind sharing source of this material you mentioned?

>>41450719
try >>41438458
or you could just use the free flow tapes, that's what they're for

>>41452152
tell me more.

>>41438450
halfway through and i can do all that robert is saying but it seems just like advanced imagination to me and not real

I just realized a big plateau I've struggling with in the last few weeks, I literally can't remember my dreams. I can't even start to write down what I don't remember.
Suggestions on how to improve this?
Also related, remembered >>41394149
gonna look more into it

>>41453653
>advanced imagination
I guess belief is half the process, for me its just natural reinforcement from several other thing I've learned.
The point made is that imagination, conscious thought and energy, is just as real as physical matter, neither can exist without. (literal quantum physics btw)
As for actual evidence, there are plenty of tidbits that should manifest themselves in the 3d as you go along with the tapes, specially with OBE, the exercise where you can read stuff someone else wrote for you.

>>41438450
I remember trying it like 5 years ago. That night I could barely sleep because of extreme pain in the upper right side of my back, never had felt that kind of pain before or after that night. Next morning when I woke up the pain was gone but my heart was racing like crazy, 120bpm when resting, I got scared so I called an ambulance. I was in er the whole afternoon, they run some tests and they said I was fine, they gave me some downers and sent me home. My heartbeat went back to normal in a few hours. I haven't experienced heart problems since that day. It could've been a coincidence

>>41450412
>Its said how each individual experiences these states differ.
this feels like a cop out so it can't be falsified whether someone is in F12
To me, F10 is undeniable. I could maybe classify F12 as the point at which I'm getting auditory and visual feedback, but I don't know if that is happens to other people or if that is what is F10 for other people.

>>41442951
>Anyone had success with the communication tapes, talking with "non physical friends" ?
Every now and then, I hear some faint hint of, "Please come back."

>>41453461
> try >>41438458 #
Holy shit this is good, thanks bro

>>41454838
The link for the binaural audio in the catbox isn't working for men as in im unable to download the audio file. :(

>>41450034
>>41450382
Some people do go through the tapes way too fast, remember these were released not all at once but through literal decades going as far as the late 70s.
Make the habit of spending at least a month or two with each track of each wave. While some of the exercises are useful others are just novelties, ymmv, the Focus levels are useful tools though.

>>41438450

Good meme. Sums up jew subhumans, perfectly

>>41453461
I wasn't sure but I still dismissed it because it was so much and incoherent. What materials? You mean the meditation? I did open-eyed cross-eyed meditation staring at an identical pair of differently colored shapes, creating a third one in between which eventually induced an altered state. Look up George Pennington tablets as well as aura vision exercises.

>>41453461
>tell me more.
Is there anything specific you'd like to know?
I've had one other experience where I felt fully immersed somewhere else but the first time was the most vivid and longest.

>>41456193
>The next year I got into reading the techniques by Robert Bruce and started doing affirmations by falling asleep
these I guess

>>41456398
>I've spoken of my experiences before
>What I saw matched what I've heard people discuss about "The Park"
These

>>41457289
The website doesn't exist anymore. It listed things like the rope technique.

>>41457289
>These
Just keeping it short and simple and so I don't sound manic, I quite literally traveled (in a car), to a resort like area that looked like it was in the mountains. Clear water, vibrant foliage, the resort seemed almost like a business trip in some way. My companion was someone I recognized as a higher entity but he appeared as a blond Germanic archetype in modern business casual attire. He showed me the resort over a period of what felt like three days, with full day and night cycles that I vividly remember and an eventual departure and fade back into consciousness here where only about two and a half hours or less had passed in real time.

>come back from work late yesterday, pretty much hammer down on bed and sleep straight away
>wake up really early, but can't get into the state either
>phaze in and out for hours, neither getting good sleep or dreaming
wtf bros, why can't I remember my dreams?
what can I do to start wakening up to this?
I've heard chelated magnesium helps with this, seriously considering getting some now.

lots of the files got deleted in here it seems. can any of you "whiz kids" find them? Embracing the light was great. should have downloaded them

https://mega.nz/folder/Iug2BJJQ#lvv4Gh8YxPLYLt_8kNqz2g

>>41460423
they get deleted because of how many times retards post the link

>>41460465
yup was always worried that would happen

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>>41443602
>I don't really have a grasp at what's going on and it's been many years since
I also have something near-congruent to your experience. Having the "feelers" and "energy flows" is just a normal part of my life now and has been for over twenty years. I don't even have to think about it to manipulate it. All I really have to show for it are perpetually warm hands and what people used to describe as a "healing touch," which isn't that useful these days as I work a desk job. I used to be able to AP on demand, but it is definitely a perishable skill, one that I need to return to.

You are right in that lucid dreaming is the gateway to astral projection. The most irritating part of the LD community is that they believe this is the limit, and that actually creates a barrier against progressing further, because they believe nothing else exists beyond that. It's deliberate self-limiting, deadly for an existence that operates on intention like timespace operates on fundamental universal forces.

What you're experiencing is really just what is correctly defined as "energy body work." It's considered a very rudimentary but also fundamental skill to have in higher existences. To be honest, it's not even a skill for them. It happens so naturally to them that they take it for granted. It's as crucial and natural-feeling as breathing. It's us who have forgotten.

Energy body work is a foundation to what the higher existences operate on, which is will and intention. It's a little abstract so let me explain. Those areas are outside/beyond timespace, so things like proximity and moments don't exist. You navigate through said will and intention, because the realms that sprawl there exist as a "state of being" so you intend on becoming part of that "state of being" to travel there.

That's what I know about it at the very least. Despite knowing this, I seem to be addicted to mortality and its trappings. I know better, but I do not act better.

>>41461575
Thank you. I can only agree. Your post is comforting. It was my suspicion that a switch was flipped in that department, something that usually comes with a conscious activity and fades afterwards. When I experimented with dantian and chakra stimulation, or Robert Bruce's tactile imagination, I did feel it spread or activate similar sensations on other locations without the permanency. When people talked about their forehead tingling during meditation or their hands charging during Qigong, they always said it disappeared. But why is it like this? I've inquired the web for years, I even went to fake healers and psychics in search for answers. I constantly feel like I'm on the verge of a breakthrough.
Someone once said LD is like being knee-deep in the ocean whereas AP is like swimming in it.

>>41438450
planar magnetic headphones; actual utility for Gateway tapes and the like, or placebo meme from people mistakenly associating one bit of hardware with the greater breakthrough successes that had more to do with the laboratory environment?

>>41463225
100% the latter. Never underestimate the power of belief.

>>41463225
>planar magnetic headphones
never heard of this before, and the name sounds wild
but what is it exactly?

>>41463290
a headphone that uses flat bar magnets instead of round coils, it's still around and produced with some advantages over newer and often cheaper tech but was the technology of the time that Bob was doing his initial laboratory work, producing a lasting association between the headphones and better results with the tapes. Same as ideas about the more-original FLAC files being substantially better than .mp4s and vintage magnetic reel tapes being better still than FLAC.

>>41463315
ah I see, seems like just another way to deliver waves tho
though I recently heard about a kind "pillow speaker" not meant to be as uncomfortable as ear buds for example,

With that I just found out about these isochronic beats, which are like a alternative to binaural that don't require earphones
https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/isochronicBrainwaveGenerator.php

>>41463219
>But why is it like this? I've inquired the web for years, I even went to fake healers and psychics in search for answers. I constantly feel like I'm on the verge of a breakthrough.
I genuinely believe that there is a threshold where it becomes impracticable to convey the experience in the perspective of a physical existence. The internet, and also counsel of others stuck in the physical planes becomes unhelpful because you're past those milestones. You're meant to progress in the AP state than try to find understanding in the physical planes.

>Someone once said LD is like being knee-deep in the ocean whereas AP is like swimming in it.
I can't disagree on the analogy.

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>>41464289
>seems like just another way to deliver waves tho
It is. The mechanism of action of a beat frequency is independent of the means that sound is delivered.

To explain why, here's a short lesson on beat frequencies. A beat frequency is literally the sum of two different frequencies. Hemi-Sync's mechanism of action is to separate the two frequencies per listening side. When you listen to it through stereo headphones, your brain is forced to piece the two together, which induces the "wavering" sound known as a beat frequency. Because this beat frequency has to be processed in your mind instead of from the audio source, it induces this brainwave state over time as the mind naturally attunes to the dominant stimulus that it collects. Hemi-Sync slowly transitions its listeners from Gamma to Delta state over the course of 10-15 minutes.

This also means that nearly any functional set of stereo headphones is sufficient to induce the state. I'd say the only really important functionality consideration is that the ear cups or ear buds isolates you away from your surrounding environment so that Hemi-Sync is the dominant auditory stimulus for your mind.

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>>41464436
>Because this beat frequency has to be processed in your mind instead of from the audio source, it induces this brainwave state over time as the mind naturally attunes to the dominant stimulus that it collects.
Before I forget, the way to ensure that Hemi-Sync is guaranteed to not work is to believe that it does not work. Humans have very few mental safeguards but refusing to believe in something is a pretty effective one.

>>41464807
What you're saying is I could train my brain to keep the synchronizing brainwaves ready and on standby while toggling whether or not my hemispheres are synchronized based on will?

Manifesting that you believe something you don't really believe isn't as effective as actually holding the belief, but it's not that simple. Would there be any of you willing to destroy and plant brain cells that will help you to pretend you believe things just as well as you actually believe them? At least situationally when doing occult work?

>>41453717
Have you read Monroe's book? He had a very similar experience before he started having OBEs.

>>41465843
No I haven't. I dropped the whole thing and haven't tried them since then. I know it was probably just a coincidence but still, I didn't want to risk it. What's his book called? I might check it out

>>41438450
It's very difficult to understand Bobby when he talks about past lives.

My experiences with OBEs happened before I started using the audios, still during sleep paralysis. I could only see my room, but with great clarity, completely perfect, except that it had turned into night, even though it was bright in the physical reality.

Other experiences with sleep paralysis I noticed were that I could hear my own parents talking and speaking to me, while I was clearly in my room in another non-physical reality. Later, I found out that Bob had met people who were able to communicate while being in those other states as well, although he said he wasn’t able to learn how to do it himself.

>>41438450
>>41438458
I've always been scared of this stuff as I heard binaural beats can cause seizures, is that true?

>>41460398
Magnesium gives you mental vivid dreams, I love it. Those restless nights are awful though, you feel like death when you wake up, it's even worse than having less sleep.

>>41466048
only if u mix with glue huffing

>>41464823
Kinda, yeah. The tapes exist to help induce the state until you get a feel for how to willfully induce it on your own. You won't need it afterwards.

>>41466048
Binaural beats have no inherent danger. However, you said it makes you scared anyways, so your foundations are built upon fear. Any experiences founded on fear are going to turn out bad for you anyways so unless you overcome that, it won't be worth your while. You're setting yourself up to fail.

is time travel possible with GT? I'd love a second chance. since we are more than our physical body i think there is hope.

>>41467020
According to Robert Monroe disciple Frank Kepple all of your previous and future reincarnations are happening at the same time. So, probably.
https://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

>>41464436
yeah that's what I meant though, while I use big earphones with noise cancelling and very high quality, they are cumbersome to stay with in bed, it limits the position you can be in
those alternative tunes may be alternative, that is if the quality isn't too bad coming out my phone, I might give it a try soon,

>>41466019
me too, before starting these, I've had a few experiences where I felt another person presence with 100% certainty of who it was, usually a family or close person
for example, the last time I felt like my SP was lying there with me as I woke, pretty much you would like in real life, feeling her weight, then coping a feel while we looked at each other

I still waiting to hear about someone else with a similar experience but I'm still 100% sure I met her that night
I also a few odd experiences, one with a entity I was sure wasn't human., but was pretending sort of, and then cast away

>>41443602
>>41461575
>>41463219
>>41464365
I thank you for the very good posts, not sure if it can add to the subject
but last thread there was a anon with auto-writing that posted a bunch of questions and answers he received from such high beings
>>41407553

On another topic, I was a bit a rump and just yesterday was wondering why I couldn't remember my dreams, lo and behold, today I had but 3 dreams, 2 of which I actually remembered and scribbled down.
The journey is amazing, and I'm ready to expand

>>41467020
I think focus 21 is "the void" of reality shifting, and those who believe in reality shifting say that once in the void you can shift to any other reality, including your own past or a variant of it. I tried several times but failed so far.

>>41467255
>>41467426
yeah I almost picture it a merging of sorts, almost like the movie Being John Malkavich in a way where I blend and turn into my past self. I dunno.I feel many different versions of me going on at the same time for sure, that kepple page is great

Speaking of which, I just did the Wave3 - Remote Viewing the other day, its specific to the test with the numbers written on the letter, and using your EBT as a sort of lens to look through. It will take a few days before I can set that up.
But what about going to someone else or visiting a place you know but haven't been yet, or even a guided free flow for that, isn't there a tape for this?

>>41466252
>Magnesium gives you mental vivid dreams, I love it. Those restless nights are awful though, you feel like death when you wake up
lol, I heard exactly that from people who tried it, tho I would think having wakened awareness, one could have more control like LD.
Isn't it something that can really aid with the tapes and AP too? Like being able to into deeper states without losing lucidity?

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>>41467349
>it limits the position you can be in
I just got used to sleeping on my back. I found that I would rather compromise and adapt than seek a product to accommodate any sleeping position.

It comes with practical benefits, like being able to sleep practically anywhere. This consistently irritates people because I'm also able to sleep on shelves once I clear them free of obstructing objects.

>>41467409
>anon with auto-writing that posted a bunch of questions and answers he received from such high beings
Not far off from what I observed. Good to see that /x/ is actually becoming paranormal. I'm sure people miss the spooky greentexts nonetheless.

Anyone else have success with the patterning tapes? I listened to the 1 month patterning one, focusing on being in a relationship with this girl I like. She almost never texts me first but then the next day she texted me out of nowhere asking to hang out. We did and had an amazing evening, she finally started opening up to me on a real, intimate level whereas before she would have her guard up and give me mixed signals.
Anyone else have success stories with patterning?

>>41468057
>This consistently irritates people because I'm also able to sleep on shelves once I clear them free of obstructing objects.
lol

>I just got used to sleeping on my back
me too, its funny how that happened, I went from insomniac, needing some background noise, unable to sleep on my back while being restless, to pretty much completely drifting away minutes after my head hits the pillow.
Kinda annoying though because a lot of times I'm trying to achieve something and end up falling asleep too quickly.

Still, because I sleep in a futon, after hours of being in the same position it starts to get a bit uncomfortable (for example if I WBTB in the same position).

>Good to see that /x/ is actually becoming paranormal. I'm sure people miss the spooky greentexts nonetheless.
Make no mistake, /x/ on general is still somewhat of a cesspool, this thread has been blessed with a little shitposts, and actual good replies too.

>>41468193
>Anyone else have success stories with patterning?
Good for you anon, I want to know that as well, I tried a couple times can't tell of results yet, because of how the tape is structure, the timing often caught me off guard, maybe next time I should write down what I went for and remember it.

Speaking of which, where in tape specifically did you focus on being with the girl?
Also because I do /loa/ as well, I prefer visualizing my wish fulfilled while on SATS, imo it comes pretty close to this with slightly different approaches.
To say you you had such quick result after doing the tape the one time is quite amazing though. Where as /loa/ you usually persist with the same visualization for a period of time until it sticks.

>>41468393
Yeah, first time I went into it blind and couldn't form my thoughts quickly/clearly enough. Then I found these links and used them as a template to wrote out my thoughts before hand.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19CnkSsfiOGSuEEZFTa-4Je305TAAiSbjmqPUO12nABo/edit?usp=drivesdk

https://unhiden.com/gateway/waves/wave-ii/one-month-patterning

>where in the tape did you focus on being with the girl
I worked it in to each step.
i.e. when asked to focus on the physical body you want I stated "I have a powerful, heathy, beautiful body filled with vital energy. I am exactly the type of man [the girl] is attracted to."
then when it got to the point where you state where you want to be and what you want to achieve, I got more specific.
i.e. "I am on her sofa, next to her, talking. we are so close I can feel her warmth and smell her breath."
>/loa/
I think patterning is the law of attraction done right. The biggest hurdle for me when using /loa/ was I was never sure when to "let go" of what I was manifesting and to stop thinking of it. Patterning is so powerful because it asks you to build a vivid image of your desire (very easy to do in focus 12) and then immediately tells you to release it. I picture my image dispersing into a cloud of particles into the universe around me, each particle becoming a seed to take root and bear fruit in its own time.
I first got interested in patterning because I saw an excerpt from a cia document explaining that patterning is essentially magic, like they literally define real magic as patterning in focus 12 as taught by Monroe.

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>>41468339
>actual good replies
Over the past decade, it is reaching an observable trend. It used to be only 0-2 good sources per year. Its frequency is now bimonthly to monthly. This is typically the early threshold where an idea takes hold and accelerates to memetic criticality or fizzles out due to insufficient collective involvement.

Just as it was hard to determine the future a decade ago, it'll be equally as hard to determine next decade as to what that pathway looks like. The possibilities are there but as of current, it trends towards a growing awareness of a metaphysical existence.

There appears to be some major factions. They're not mutually exclusive. Observations are imperfect.
>spiritual
This is the oldest one, an awareness of the larger metaphysical realms and relies on older doctrines and documentation to seek guidance. They're prone to treating words as gospel and at their worst will ignore things that fit within categorization or conflict with existing concepts and knowledge.
>secular
This can be best described as "simulation theory" or "prison planet" where they acknowledge that there is a higher imperceptible force that drives an existence that they have some vague awareness has no real stake. They're prone to ignoring anything that sounds spiritual or religious.
>paranormal/new age
This is the spookypasta types that really like strange and novel things that exist on Earth. They're prone to be too stuck on folklore and are likely to be too scared to really do anything about it, since most folklore of xenospiritual phenomena tends towards malicious entities. Ayys apply here. It's heavily conspiracy oriented and veers superficially eastern. This is also a really fast way to hit a dead end.
>psychoactive substances
It's a shortcut to what the spiritual factions can reach. It also limits the extent of where they head towards because it ends up being treated as a crutch instead of as a catalyst. Their experiences are markedly different as a result.

>>41469094
>ignore things that don't fit within categorization
fix'd

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>>41450719
The frequencies were reverse-engineered by people on newsgroups such as alt.out-of-body many years ago. A download of Sbagen contains them all in case you don't want to go trawling usenet archives.

I meant to listen to the tapes last year while unemployed but I got worried about MK-ultring myself

>>41468598
thanks anon, I'll check these out
>stated, pictured
I'm not sure how I do either, I guess its a mix of feeling and imagining it, but not something as making a scene as you do in loa either

>>41469325
very nice, seems like it fluctuates a little but in general maintain pattern,
like starting off really low, delta, stay in low theta for the majority, and then a short alpha spike, maybe when locutor is speaking?
Or are these not ordered?

I've got an issue wrt going deeper into focus 10 - I start hallucinating very vivid imagery, which seems to be a good sign, but then I automatically focus on it, which takes me right the fuck out of it, and then I need more time to go back. Any tips on how I can stop doing that?
Also, is there a version of free flow focus 10 that doesn't have the narrator dude repeat "do what you've come here to do" or whatever several times? It also doesn't help

>>41469793
you don't deeper into F10, see the thread... the deeper of F10 is F12, and even then you're not supposed to be hallucinating
tho it can be just your interpretation, don't think too much about it, that's not the goal
just keep doing the tapes

>>41466806
That's a fair point, I love repetitive ambient music and find it meditative but if I'm worried in the back of mind if something is going to a fit then it'll ruin the experience, I'm not even epileptic either.

>>41468006
Apart from helping you sleep magnesium keeps you calmer so it could help meditation.

>>41469793
There's a separate CD, not part of any Gateway Experience Waves called "Deep 10 Relaxation" with a greater duration. https://hemi-sync.com/product/deep-10-relaxation-album/

Although the induction process is a bit longer and more thorough, there is no narration at all after reaching Focus 10. It's available from the misc folder in the top post as part of the huge collection.

Can someone post these in m4a instead of FLAC?

>>41470642
I have converted the ones I've used so far to ogg-vorbis, if you want.
though maybe opus would be a better choice

Just had an extremely nice session with Wave3 - Lift off (second time)
can only imagine its as far as the tape lets me go, still felt my body on the bed but somehow felt the movement, floating around, almost on the edge of moving my physical body, but didn't really see much, like no way to open my eyes
tried going further to someone's else place, but the tape didn't allow time for that much either, it was almost like I was tuning in but got pulled back

>>41470868
Don't cheapen out so much on quality, if your device can't play/store flac then look for high res mp3s. Overcompressed files do destroy frequencies.

>>41470985
vorbis has better quality/compression ratio than mp3, and even more so does opus
flac is entirely unnecessary

>>41471010
>vorbis has better quality/compression ratio than mp3
yeah, I guess, as long as you are compressing from high quality sources. I thought I was replying to the anon asking about mp4a, not the anon suggesting vorbis, so there's that.

I can understand not wanting to invest hundreds in high quality equipment and planar magnetic yadda yadda and what not but folks tend to go all the way and on top of the cheapest headphones they can find they also use low quality hyper compressed files. Then they go around complaining hemi sync and other binaural tracks don't work.
It's all the same to me, flash memory is cheap asf still and my player reproduces wav/flac no problem, so to each their own.

anyone notice a difference with experience with flac? the first time i did it was with flac and i had vibrations so strong i freaked out and thought something was wrong, it was my first time and didn't read up much about it. i don't think my current libary is flac where the experience isn't as strong.

Any tips transitioning from Focus 12 to 15? Keep falling asleep.

Also anyone know where to get a copy of this? Don't have a kindle.

https://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-State-New-Perspective-ebook/dp/B01EVL5NDM

>>41469551
Bob is not CIA, the CIA tried Bob tapes. Is not hard to understand this.

Anyone know how to use frequencies for serious body changes? I want a wider clavicle

>>41473318
>Is not hard to understand this.
4chan is mostly full of outliers, so it's full of retards and autists, with not that much in-between. They will absolutely miss the sequence of events, and outright ignore American involvement in parapsychology during the Cold War.

Why is it people will imagine channeling chi into another's head to heal them or to harm them depending on the situation, but nobody talks about using the occult to destroy brain cells in other people? There's so few examples of the idea even being brought up, Soya Azashiro being one of them. Sometimes I feel that I'm misunderstood just as he was.

>>41438450
fake bullshit, essentially snake oil

>>41471519
>anyone notice a difference with experience with flac?
You can double check but it makes no difference. the waves are just audible sounds, they aren't magik, the magik happens within yourself.
The vibrations you felt are probably the same people feel from hypnogogic sleep, a state of half awareness while sleep, its common to a degree, or perhaps even a presence trying to communicate.
Its hard to tell cause I haven't had those in a while, maybe we just get used, maybe what I had back then was indeed contact. (see non-verbal communication)

>>41471519
>anyone notice a difference with experience with flac?
You won't have a noticeable degradation in quality until around 48-96 Kbps (about the quality of a phone/VoIP conversation) and even the lowest quality mp3 releases of Hemi-Sync are at 128 Kbps.

>>41474119
>the waves are just audible sounds
not what >>41469325 post suggests, and it is true that specific frequencies do get crushed with compression.
>>41474154
>even the lowest quality mp3 releases of Hemi-Sync are at 128 Kbps.
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all of our MP3s are 320 kbit/s bitrate sampled at 44.1 kHz.
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https://hemi-sync.com/help-center/category/digital-downloads/
The difference between 320kbps and 128kbps are like 50-100mb, it's...retarded to prefer lower quality ones, the days of wanting to cram as much kewl music as physically possible in a 650mb CD are long gone.

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>>41474309
>not what >>41469325# post suggests
it doesn't suggest anything different than we already know, hemisync is just monotones slightly apart to that create a beating frequency. They are literally what we now call binaural beats.
Also, you people have to fucking read the texts ffs.

it seems i can only do OBEs either through luck or by being extremely tired.

also waking up in the middle of the night and laying on my back then meditating until something happens.

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>>41474309
>The difference between 320kbps and 128kbps are like 50-100mb
Hemi-Sync is also very old, so there was a time when 50-100mb was a huge deal and I remember a time when I rotated files around hard drives, mp3 players, flash drives, and SD cards to make things fit, but I do get your point.

Memory is laughably cheap these days. Go for the high bitrate, even if it is placebo. Placebo is very powerful on its own, it is belief after all.

>>41469325
>The frequencies were reverse-engineered by people on newsgroups such as alt.out-of-body many years ago.
Interesting, a straight shot into theta and delta brainwave states for many of them.

>>41474354
>Also, you people have to fucking read the texts ffs.
But isn't reading like for nerds and stuff? Anon wants to dismiss it all without substantiative review.

>>41474722
>it seems i can only do OBEs either through luck or by being extremely tired.
I induced mine through sustained sleep deprivation. Think 1-2 hours of sleep for about 12 months. It was the uberman sleep schedule if I recall correctly. That was the kind of torment that broke my head and I feel it to this day. It makes a lot of pain rather numb in comparison. The precipice of life and death is a great way to induce OBE, provided you don't die.
>also waking up in the middle of the night and laying on my back then meditating until something happens.
This is the second most effective for me as well. Way better than sleeping for a few seconds and spiraling into recursive dreams that feel like they're hours long.

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>>41475322

Yeah i aint doing hardcore sleep deprivation lol.

what ive learned is that obes can be initiated during hpynagogia or hypnopompia.

so for me the most practical approach is have a busy day and avoid caffeine then go lay down somewhere dark and quiet and meditate (usually using theta 4hz).

OR waking up 4-5am, get up and drink water, take a piss, do something small then lay on my BACK and completely forget about falling alseep - only focus on usual meditative practice and KNOW deep down that either sleep paralysis or a sudden OBE will occur.

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>>41475346
>>41475322

ok actually i remember something from many years ago in my early 20s or at 19.

i was bit of a druggy and had a long night so i came home to sleep during the day. there were contractors working outside so the noises from outside were penetrating my dream. then something miraculous happened : i had simultaneous dream and bodily/outside world awareness. i could effortlessly switch between both the dream and body/physical world.

then the next amazing part was i was roaming around my house (no people were seen though) and i realised i was "dreaming" and i tried to make myself fly but i could only flap around like a chicken. when i woke up i thought "God DAMN that was the most realistic dream ive ever had". still remember it to this day.

then i had a similar case a year ago where my wife woke me up when she went to work, i fell back asleep in the morning and i had that same dual awareness again. this time i was in a dream realm that looked a bit like the beach from the movie contact and i was lucid as fuck and could flip back to the physical body. then i imagined myself floating above my body (my body was sleeping prone) and it began to materialise infront of me then i got lazy (bad habit) and fell back to sleep normally.

if i knew how to reproduce this state i would do it nearly every day. its quite pleasant.

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>>41475346
>Yeah i aint doing hardcore sleep deprivation lol.
The hypnopompia and hypnogogia lead me to see my surroundings in glowing wireframe tessellations. With the right meditative state, anything that is sufficiently alive looks like static even with eyes closed. Communication is delightfully musical.

I don't feel insane though. It all feels normal.

>>41475370
That picture reminds me of some of those grids I hallucinate upon sleeping and waking.
>i had simultaneous dream and bodily/outside world awareness. i could effortlessly switch between both the dream and body/physical world.
That's actually a pretty rare capability to achieve because it requires a very still and focused mind, but still willful enough to drive intent. When I think about it, the only accounts I've ever read about are so far into the past that it's stuff like Milarepa or the Tibetan Book of the Dead. It's almost mythical.

Either way, time for bed.

>>41475391

>The hypnopompia and hypnogogia lead me to see my surroundings in glowing wireframe tessellations. With the right meditative state, anything that is sufficiently alive looks like static even with eyes closed. Communication is delightfully musical.

sounds like thomas campbell describing the auras he saw on objects and people.

>That's actually a pretty rare capability to achieve because it requires a very still and focused mind, but still willful enough to drive intent. When I think about it, the only accounts I've ever read about are so far into the past that it's stuff like Milarepa or the Tibetan Book of the Dead. It's almost mythical.


its happened to me a few times in my 33 years alive. i can only recall a few times though. it felt quite natural and easy at the time and it was waaaay before i took any interest in this stuff. sadly i dont know how to reproduce it. i mean i have a good idea on what probably causes it but its easier to abstract than to do it in practice.

>>41474722
>also waking up in the middle of the night and laying on my back then meditating until something happens.
This is effectively what we call WBTB (wake back to bed)

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Here it says you may AP to someone else just by thinking, perhaps focusing on someone can take you there regardless if you know where they are?
Anyone experienced or achieved this?

>>41464365
Once again, my sincerest thanks. I should get back into it.

big picture bros.... what are we? how do we have this technology and what it does to us? i find it rather amazing, and even more amazing that 99% of the population is sleep walking with this readily available.

>>41475474
>sadly i dont know how to reproduce it.
I have a few hints of how. It requires a very still and calm mind, a state of persistent mindfullness to the point where you're in that meditative state all the time. That's the key. You're always warmed up to go. You don't even have to think about it because it's always in the background.

Easier said than done, as you've observed.

>>41460398
>I've heard chelated magnesium helps with this, seriously considering getting some now.
Magnesium has a very easy way of telling you if you've had enough. If you didn't have enough magnesium, you'll feel better. If you take too much, you will shit yourself.

That's why magnesium citrate is treated as a laxative. The body easily absorbs all the magnesium it needs, and will aggressively dump out the rest.

So the basic initial stuff is fairly simple. He was a victim of his own success and had to keep pumping out material and books and tapes and dumb nomenclature because dumb women wanted to worship him.

All you need to know is mind awake body asleep. Literally don't move and don't fall asleep.

Just read ch 16 and 17 from Journeys out of bodies where he explains it in simple terms because he wrote that before he became famous. Binaural beats can help, but really the technique is to relax your body while keepong your mind awake.
Borderland sleep state. This is perhaps the easiest and most natural method and usually ensures relaxation of both body and mind simultaneously. The difficulty here lies in the maintenance of that delicate “edge” between sleep and complete wakefulness. All too often, you simply fall asleep—and that ends the experiment for the moment. By practice, conscious awareness can be taken up to this borderland state, into it, and through it, to your destination. There is no way to achieve it that I know of other than practice. ...

>>41481628
This is from ch 16.
preferably when you are tired and sleepy. As you become relaxed and start to drift off into sleep, hold your mental attention on something, anything, with your eyes closed. Once you can hold the borderland state indefinitely without falling asleep, you have passed the first stage. It is, however, a normal pattern to fall asleep many times in the process of this consciousness deepening. You will not be able to help yourself, but do not let this discourage you. It is not an overnight process. You will know you are successful when you become bored and expect something more to happen! If attempts to remain at the borderland state make you nervous, this too is a normal reaction. The conscious mind seems to resent sharing the authority it has during wakefulness. If this occurs, break the relaxation, get up and walk around, exercise, and lie down again. If this does not relieve the nervousness, go to sleep and try another time. You are just not in the mood. When your “fixative,” the picture thought you have been holding, slips away and you find yourself thinking of something else, you are close to completion of Condition A. Once you have achieved Condition A—the ability to hold calmly in the borderland state indefinitely with your mind on an exclusive thought—you are ready for the next step.

Condition B is similar, but with the concentration eliminated. Do not think of anything, but remain poised between wakefulness and sleep. Simply look through your closed eyes at the blackness ahead of you. Do nothing more. After a number of these exercises, you may hallucinate “mind pictures,” or light patterns. These seem to have no great significance, and may merely be forms of neural discharge. I can remember, for example, attempting to achieve this state after watching a football game on TV for several hours. All I saw were mind pictures of football players tackling, running, passing, etc. It took at least a half hour for the pattern to fade away. These mind pictures are apparently related to your visual concentration in the preceding eight or ten hours. The more intense the concentration, the longer it seems to take to eliminate the impressions. You have accomplished Condition B when you are able to lie indefinitely after the impressions have faded away, with no nervousness, and seeing nothing but blackness.

>>41481752
Condition C is a systematic deepening of consciousness while in the B state. This is approached by carefully letting go of your rigid hold on the borderland sleep edge and drifting deeper little by little during each exercise. You will learn to establish degrees of this deepening of consciousness by “going down” to a given level and returning at will. You will recognize these degrees by the shutting down of various sensory mechanism inputs. The sense of touch apparently goes first. You seem to have no feeling in any part of your body. Smell and taste soon follow. The auditory signals are next, and the last to fade out is vision. (Sometimes the last two are reversed; I suspect that the reason for vision being last is that the exercise calls for the use of the visual network, even in blackness.) Condition D is the achievement of C when one is fully rested and refreshed, rather than tired and sleepy, at the beginning of the exercise. This is quite important, and not nearly as easy to achieve as it is to write about. To enter the relaxation state full of energy and wakefulness is great insurance for maintaining conscious control. The best approach to take in the early attempts at the Condition D exercise is to start it immediately after you wake up from a nap or a night’s sleep. Start the exercise before you move around in bed physically, while your body is still relaxed from sleep and your mind is fully alert. Don’t take too many liquids before sleeping, and you won’t have the immediate need to empty your bladder upon awakening.

>>41481756
He then goes on to explain how after you get to thisnstate you use "vibrations" but I feel his explanations are lacking because of his unfamiliarity with meditation.

Establish the vibration waves. As you continue breathing through your half-opened mouth, concentrate on the blackness in front of your closed eyes. Look first into the blackness at a spot a foot away from your forehead. Now move your point of concentration to three feet away, and then six feet. Hold for a while until the point is firmly established. From there, turn the point 90° upward, on a line parallel to the body axis and reaching out above the head. Reach for the vibrations at that spot. When you find them, mentally pull them back into your head.

>>41438450
I'm very paranoid of them, wouldn't be surprised if it's a psyop trying to embed subliminal instructions into your unconscious.

>>41442166
this is bullshit. so i ask anyone reading this thread to consider, why would someone come in this specific thread and write this? are they butthurt about the gateway tapes because they didn't work for them? maybe they didn't enjoy Monroe's books. are they a reddit-tier /x/er who bought in to the cope about muh CIA put subliminal messages on the gateway tapes?

if it's none of the above then i ask you why they would write this specific lie? maybe the gateway tapes / monroe's works are actually somewhat threatening to someone. if you've read his work you know why the government got interested in him. you also would remember that even out of body while trying to access certain sensitive areas, they even had astral guards to stop him and tell him to turn around because he didn't have the clearance to enter.

>>41481765
What helped me understand this is your focus/attention is like a flashlight. You can point it at indiviual parts of your body, your senses, your breathing, you can point it externally to something you are observing or hearing at a distance, or you can point it at some imagined scenarios. Here he seems to be saying point it to something external which allows the body to continue to shut down it's senses. You basically want the body to produce the chemicals that paralyze yoh during sleep, induce sleep paralysis.

>>41481768
>wouldn't be surprised if it's a psyop trying to embed subliminal instructions into your unconscious
It's primarily beat frequencies. Anything subliminal is directly stated in the affirmation statements, so it's hardly subliminal anyways.

>>41481628
>>41481736
>>41481752
>>41481756
Very good anon, thanks for the contribution
Would you recommending reading that book? Didn't even know he wrote one.
Concerning the "method", I do on occasion go into state all by myself, but that's usually for /loa/ stuff, so I do have some practice.
>The difficulty here lies in the maintenance of that delicate “edge” between sleep and complete wakefulness. All too often, you simply fall asleep
And this indeed what I most struggle with, both practices, along with not remembering my dreams.
That I hope soon will get over this plateau.

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>>41438450
If the man says it, it must be true. I should allow him to tamper with my consciousness.

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So let me see if I'm getting this right, just had a quick session nap after dinner
Its been only a week since I've listened to the Lift Off tape, I can now feel floaty and sort of roll around, I actually feel the vertigo or sort of like the momentum of the movement, but still very much still feel my body in bed.
My body however felt very much asleep, like fumigating, it was heavy but I knew I could easily start moving if I wanted to.
I pro-pulsed my self around, trying to go to another room or above the building, like the same I could feel the momentum, but couldn't see anything still.
I then tried something different, used the EBT to open a sort of reflection to somewhere, or rather someone I wanted to be with (my father before you get any ideas), and sort of imagined the person, feeling and trying to communicate. Can't tell if it was real or had any effect on the other end yet.
Anyway, got a little bored, got back, and decided to just sleep it off to get some rest, the binaural track I was listened had ended too already. But I just couldn't, calmed myself, counted, was pretty much fairly deep still, but I just couldn't drift off to sleep.
Finally decided to get up, got a good stretch felt somewhat refreshed and relaxed, but not quite the same as if I had an actual nap.

Any thoughts or input from those more experienced with this around here?

>>41438450
The audio in some of the mega.nz files is just too low, fucking hell. it's barely audible even with my phone volume maxxed out

>>41483614
Try listening to side B files, side A seems to be fucked sometimes, but there's no difference in content

>>41481752
So this is actually a good thing that I didn't have hallucinations anymore for weeks and only empty blackness?

>>41483971
According to Monroe, yes. From personal experience yes, the mind needs to be more calm and relaxed before you can move on to things like AP

bump

>>41483614
Which files are you talking about? Which wave?

>self suggest that I am very lucky and things just go my way
>go out for a few drinks, money runs out and decide to go back
>dude just invites me for a beer in a nearby pub
>end up going from midnight all the to six in the morning pretty much without spending a dime, with random people just buying me beers

>>41487383
ah yeah, and now I'm fucking hang over

>>41438450
ive been falling asleep to this for a couple days now. what should i expect?

>>41487500
Don't expect anything, also read the files.

>>41487688
>also read the files.
where

>>41487770
where did you get the tapes anon?

>>41487770
Top of page?

bump for the night

>>41481773
>you also would remember that even out of body while trying to access certain sensitive areas, they even had astral guards to stop him and tell him to turn around because he didn't have the clearance to enter.
I've never heard of this. Is it written by him somewhere? I'm interested

I have a question. Sometimes between focus 10 and 12/15/21, I affirm a few times until it feels true: "I am not lying in my bed, I am up, walking." Then I feel up and walking for a few seconds. After I do this I can easier join this empty darkness, away from my body, away from the world. But is it a good thing?

Also, I keep trying to communicate with the nonphysical beings but I keep failing, either with non verbal communication, or feelings, or pictures, or words. No matter what I try I still don't get any picture or feeling as an answer, only vibrations. Sometimes I ask them how they say "yes", then "no", most of the time their answer is a horizontal vibration for yes and a vertical vibration for no. But to check I ask questions I know the answer, and their answers are often wrong, it's probably random, or me making it happen unconsciously. :(

>>41481773
He did write something about working with a Ether based cement or glue and the fumes leading him into or perhaps having something to do with an altered state. Not that that detracts from his work imo and the way they stated that was obviously shilly and deceptive but yeah. Wish that they still made it with Ether. Using ether to explore the Ether.

>>41492074
>Not that that detracts from his work
Really? Seems that it detracts significantly.

>>41492074
>why would someone come in this specific thread and write this?
There have been entire threads on the subject so it is either a person that (A) Hemi-Sync didn't work for them, (B) it is one of those aggressive scientism/atheism type of characters that go around trying to discredit anything that goes against their personal religion, (C) it is or follows a competitor.
I have not been able to find specific quotes from his book so it was either never there or it was sanitized by his institution on later editions, it is however mentioned a lot in the web. Supposing there is some truth to the rumor, he wouldn't be the first person accidentally stumbling into spiritual activity using external means.
>>41492142
>significantly
not really, I mean, you are entitled to your own opinion but Release and Recharge for example has been one of the better tools I've ever seen so, even if the guy loved huffing ether that has nothing to do with me as it is never mentioned anywhere that I need to huff ether myself.

>>41493634
forgot to add >>41481773

>>41492074

From Ch16 of Journeys out of the Body:

"Induction by drugs.

None of the relaxation-producing drugs that are readily available seem to help. Barbiturates force a loss of conscious control and only bring a confused state in deeper consciousness. The same is true, to a lesser degree, of tranquilizers. Relaxation is obtained, but at the cost of perception. Alcohol in any form brings similar effects. More exotic compounds such as the alkaloids and hallucinogens may be more productive, I have not had enough experience or contact with these to offer an opinion or even an educated guess. It would seem that far-reaching research is indicated for these.

I have utilized all three methods, and rejected drug relaxation quite early as it resulted in both too much loss of conscious control and distorted perception. In the first technique, hypnotic induction tapes were specially prepared for the experiments. They were quite useful and effective. The borderland sleep state techniques have been employed most often. In spite of the complicated-sounding procedure, it is the most natural method for me."

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>>41438458
Based I want to throw some gifts into the pile too.

First is a binaural beat maker you can get down to decimals

https://onlinetonegenerator.com/binauralbeats.html


The second is a multi tone generator which if you have two or more tones you can basically make BNB's


https://onlinetonegenerator.com/multiple-tone-generator.html


Also some iso tone genrators

https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/isochronicBrainwaveGenerator.php


https://binauro.com/isochronic-tones#section-isochronic-presets-sleep

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>>41495044
something to add

Binaural beats require headphones while isocronic tones do not they can be played over speakers.

A neat trick is to open a tone in one tab and music or a YT video with music in Anouther.

>>41493894
>rejected drug relaxation quite early as it resulted in both too much loss of conscious control and distorted perception
I understand he wanted to be thorough, but things like that are just self-evident.

>>41493634
>(A) Hemi-Sync didn't work for them
Its biggest contradiction is that it relies heavily on personal belief for it to work. Skeptics will receive nothing for their trouble.
>(B) it is one of those aggressive scientism/atheism type of characters that go around trying to discredit anything that goes against their personal religion
Scientism/atheism is still a religion. They have their dogmas and doctrines, as well as a supreme authority.

I've tried other binaural beats they give me bad tinnitus

However, Monroe's tapes do not, at least so fr. How come?

>>41495044
Very good anon, thanks for the share
that link I've used to record mine is also the same site you had for isochronic beats
which btw, its very decent with plenty of options, and while the multi tone sounds really good, I'm not entirely sure it is as efficient for inducing a specific state range in our brain.

>>41483119
Anyway, following up here
had a fun experience today, went to the vectors tape at first, and was a bit lost because I didn't read up on the tape before, and kept zoning out,
but I don't if it was because I was physically tired, but with a rested mind, I was able to get into state really easily, pretty much started floating straight away, but really didn't follow up on the directions too much
but anyway, I'd zone out for a little but soon started feeling the vibrations, it was almost like my heart was beating really fast, but I could faintly feel my heart beat in the normal relaxed rhythm, the vibrations were something I felt before in maybe sleep paralysis or something,
or perhaps another time were I was sure I made contact with something, not entirely sure, as it felt more like the vibrations where coming from within

Anyway, that was something, it came and went but I felt like could stay in a deep state much easier, just went did a couple of other tapes still

>>41498740
While Monroe's hemisync is essentially binaural in concept, it isn't the only element on the tracks
I've noticed some tracks specially wave two use binaurals very sparingly,
besides that there is the background white noise, the occasional woosh, the occasional vibrational
it is very much carefully crafted and that's what sets it apart

What does he mean exactly when he says, to reach focus 12: "Your consciousness is expanding more and more, more and more, far beyond the limits of your physical body" ? What am I supposed to feel or do?

>>41438450
Guten morgen Anons, anyone from west germany here born in the eighties? I remember the hearing tests and some seeing tests, trying to move a thing on a screen.