>>41791414
>exposure to hormonal disruptors (deodorant)
I've been wanting to stop using the mass produced shit for ages, but I've never seen any natural deodorants anywhere. Surely I don't have to just be stinky bros?

>>41791448
Use coconut oil or salt or some other natural essence oils. Go to one of those stores women go to and look for them there, make sure its %100 real plant based oil and no synthetic slop. I use some random japenese plant oil it smells like mint.

>>41791357
you're probably right, i already recovered the vc container once before using recovery tools
but i used ccleaner too this time. i won't be getting this one back but the risk is I just start a new collection to make up for that one.
>>41791445
none of it was extreme, just pictures of attractive women of varying levels of indecency. the reason i hung onto despite wanting to get rid of it was bargaining with myself - this stuff which is more innocent than hardcore porn or whatever fetishes people have is surely fine to keep to prevent me from looking at more extreme things. a stupid mental trap i built.

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How are you supposed to do this karezza or tantric sex shit while retaining? My nuts already feel like they are going to explode after just making out with a girl. The attraction boost from girls is very, very real. I wish to cultivate more spiritual energy.

>>41791637
Sexual energy*

>>41791637
Read Modern Sex Magick by Donald Michael Kraig.
Christopher Hyatt also has a relevant book, sex tantra or something i forget the name but it should be easy to find
But basically you have sex while being detached from the pleasurable feelings and focusing on the "mind melting" aspect of sex, where your surrender to the flow and allow the Self to dissolve and momentarily you unify with the lover, and by extension, God.
It's advanced stuff though. Most people here will lash out and reject the possibility that you can have sex and be detached from lust

Battling my nicotine addiction and going cold turkey from vapes, cigarettes and zyns has made SR so much easier
Relapsing and gooning really just makes you a bitch. At least with drugs where you have physical withdrawals, relapsing makes sense. But relapsing to a mental addiction is just pathetic.

do nofappers just enter cycles of relapse and regret and recovery and relapse over and over again. what's the endgoal? i'm really yet to see one person who says they have completely abstained from PMO without a bunch of caveats and "my longest streak was" stuff. just people constantly battling and failing. i don't get it

>>41791820
The endgoal is attracting a good woman. Then you use her pussy to satiate the monstrous sexual instinct. Then when you're 40/50 your libido drops and you can practise SR easily

>>41791820
Anyone retaining longer than a year wouldn't come back here, unless they have other motives than learning, for example teaching. That's why you only see the fails. The endgoal differs per individual. You can give the practice a try and see for yourself if it's worth continuing as time goes by. My advice is aim for 6 months. It should give you the benefits listed above.

>>41791879
> for example teaching
No one is here to teach. They're just here to LARP because it makes them feel superior.
I've said this a few times but it'd be far more honest if everyone here just admitted its a coomer recovery thread and remained humble.
But there will unfortunately always be a few posters that pretend like they're literal monks because they didn't jerk off for a month

>>41791930
>But there will unfortunately always be a few posters that pretend like they're literal monks because they didn't jerk off for a month
Please, stop coping, because you can't stop touching your dick like some mindless beast. Nobody considers themselves a monk and I've retained for 2 years now. Also, stop acting like some psychology professor that figured everyone out. Humble yourself, retain and return to normal. Good luck, you need it.

>>41791993
>namefag who posts here 24/7 claims to have retained for 2 years
Thank you so much, for proving my point
You really insult our intelligence here if you think anyone believes you, and accepts you as an authority
You are a lolcow tier moron

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>>41792036
>You really insult our intelligence here if you think anyone believes you, and accepts you as an authority
Nobody cares about me, nor you.
>our intelligence
(GIF related)

34 day streak and in a depression ended up pulling up porn for a couple minutes, I did not touch myself but leaked a little bit of precum before snapping myself out of it. Is my streak over and did I lose any semen?

>>41792071
>Nobody cares about me, nor you.
You think people care about you. That's why you're a namefag. Humble yourself.

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>>41792111
>Nobody cares about me
>You think people care about you

>>41792131
People often say things they dont actually mean. Especially narcissistic egotist namefags. To people such as yourself, words are nothing more than a means to one-up someone. Go on, give me another gotcha. that's all you know. Good monkey.

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>>41792150
At this point there's no other way but to conclude you are an anti-social retard and this is your way of having anyone acknowledging your existence. You've been here for at least half a year, every day (I skimmed the archives and you are ALWAYS there) even before I started namefagging (it's easy bait, just look your stupid ass lol) to piss people off. Have fun samefagging and sucking your own dick, you little coomer. Also, I'm dropping the namefag now, good luck figuring out if I'm still here or not.

You will never be a woman.

>>41792209
0/10. Terrible gotcha. Just pure emotional seethe, and lies.
Again monkey.

Does anyone know of a good forum that I can talk about Semen Retention without all these Mossad shills fucking up every thread? Seeing all their threads make me wanna keep doing it. Why would they seethe so hard if it was fake?

Reminder that if a woman sleeps with more than one man she's a whore, and if the man supports/condones the behaviour he's a cuck.

>>41791930
>>41791993
weeell.....the antisocial retard is not wrong, this is mostly a coombrain recovery thread, nobody remains that projects actual experience, that includes you.
Now tell us you didn't rush to make this half arsed thread while anonymous without telling us you didn't.

>>41792090
>34 day streak and in a depression ended up pulling up porn for a couple minutes
Of course, your brain is not used to being dopamine starved, plus it's become insanely hard to naturally maintaining a level through normal means what with the global context we are living in.
>>41792090
>did I lose any semen?
Did you?
You know how semen is produced in the body and what is the process to get it out, right?

>>41792268
>Why would they seethe so hard if it was fake?
Correct, the situation is not good though because it gets attacked in all fronts, a while ago in this general a shill managed to gather some naive retards on discord of all places and after a short while he showed his true colors telling everybody it does not work.
So brother, good luck finding a decent place, perhaps try the yourbrainonporn.com forums.

>>41792514
>Reminder that if a woman sleeps with 9 out 10 men she's a whore
There, sounds better and closer to reality.
> if the man supports/condones the behaviour he's a cuck.
A cuck and possibly a closeted homo.

>>41792514
>porn addict demands virgin waifu

>>41792090
fucking retard, it all depends on if you have a wet dream or not tonight. you dragged your energy downward majorly and now you run the risk of it coming out during sleep. good luck

>>41792639
dont speak for everyone, most people here arent that weak

>>41792131
he's right, jessica. since you have a name you want to tie identity to your posts for maximum attention. just leave already i'm tired of seeing your name in my filtered posts anyway

>>41792558
>There, sounds better and closer to reality.
Reality is most of em are hoes. They can satisfy their sexual urges and also get free shit for it too? LOL don't hate the player hate the game

>>41792090
Yes you did lose semen but at least you snapped yourself out of it. Just keep going bro, there's a lot of work to be done. For an advanced retainer pornography would have no effect on them whatsoever. They'd have so much internal control that their body just isn't as reactive to stimuli like a Pavlovian dog
>>41792639
No need for the name calling dude

In my day, namefags and tripfags were slandered and laughed at until complete disparagement

working my angles on a new girl and am gonna smash a big load inside of her vagina next. meanwhile, this general aka incel central is discussing how to retain their seed to maximize their incel status

>>41792582
At no point did I demand that, your projection is showing your insecure cuck

>>41792706
>I'm going to willingly surrender my seed to this parasitic whore who doesn't love me and only wants to drain my life force (and life savings)
ftfy

>>41792708
Yeah, you clearly did. That's why you shit up these threads to bitch about whores meanwhile you're a porn addict loser. you cant see the obvious hypocrisy. Instead of shutting the fuck up, and getting your act together, you point fingers

>>41792725
>That's why you shit up these threads to bitch about whores meanwhile you're a porn addict loser. you cant see the obvious hypocrisy.
White knight saves the day for fair maidens yet again

>>41792654
>Reality is most of em are hoes
Reality is many of them are hoes, I would never dispute that.
I try to be not so judgmental though because many are still humans living in this reality and just like I have been taken advantage of at one time or the other, same is for many of them.

>>41792725
>righteously points fingers at the thread shitters
>keeps shitting the thread in a very street shitter manner.
good job retard

>>41792734
>I try to be not so judgmental though
Nah fuck that, most modern (Western) women are ruthless. Give them an inch and they'll take the whole mile. They weaponize men's urges and provider instinct against them just to abort their baby down the line for convenience sake. The only way to win is to put your foot down in what you will allow in your life.

the incels have taken over. beyond over for /srg/

>>41792764
and yet western women are the hottest and most sought after. their butthole is insane to smell and lick. i don't care about what they do, i'm there to get inside their fucking holes and get them naked on the first date

>>41792764
western women are not for you anyway, ranjeet

>>41792795
No bro. It's to the point where mid and even fat ones demand a dude that's tall rich and jacked. And you don't care what they do because you're a slave to your impulses. Women will always dictate the frame because you lack masculinity

>>41792806
>western women are not for you anyway, ranjeet
I'm white you dumb bitch. It's the pajeets like yourself that are: "Such beautiful. Pls show bobs vagene"

>>41792725
>you're a porn addict loser
Holy projection, got anything else you wanna tell us buddy? Why do you think it's okay to let other men fuck your wife? Enlighten us, please.

>>41792822
brown hands typed this

>>41792784
Which posters are the incels?

>>41792844
Ok buddy even if i was it doesn't change the facts. The reason you resort to race at all is because you know you don't have an argument so the only thing you can do is to resort to racism and pretend im brown. I'm willing to bet that you are the brown one

>>41792850
The indian ones

>>41792868
who are the indian ones?

>>41792866
Yeah it does. Now that we know you're indian, we're going to ignore your posts. Your thoughts on women are irrelevant.

>>41792734
>many are still humans living in this reality and just like I have been taken advantage of at one time or the other, same is for many of them.
Poor roasties, they accidentally fell over and slipped on all those cocks by accident, we have to feel sorry for them! Listen to yourself bro

>>41792880
You're just projecting. So now we all know that you don't get laid and are also Indian. Now all your posts make perfect sense

>>41792887
Jajajajajajaja

>>41792822
okay ranjeet you just calm yourself

>>41792926
>Jajajajajajaja
Oh, you're just a spic. Same thing as an indian really. Brown either way. Your thoughts on the matter remain irrelevant.

>>41791840
you must be one ugly son of a bitch if you need sr to attract a woman. if you can't attract women with zero semen in your system just never leave your house again, nobody needs to see that

>>41792943
LOL no bro, I just think the way they spell laughter is funny. I'm Anglo as they come except I'm black waist down
>Your thoughts on the matter remain irrelevant.
Good, just ignore my posts and don't reply

>>41791840
>The endgoal is attracting a good woman.
It's not. It's about self mastery, not about attracting a good woman. Self mastery makes you more attractive in general but it won't directly get you a good woman. You need to grab life by the balls and make an effort to meet them - that is what's attractive, not just not touching your peepee. Don't do SR for the wrong reasons

>>41792950
LMAO I don't know why people fall for the SR female magnetism meme. So you get on SR just so you can maybe get off of it later, potentially... These jokes write themselves

>>41792953
> I just think the way they spell laughter is funny
KEK
You're going back. Juan

>>41791840
>Then when you're 40/50 your libido drops and you can practise SR easily
If you do SR correctly while you're young, at 40/50 you're gonna look and feel like 20/30. Look up Chuando Tan - you'lll be like that guy. If you watch an interview with him the dude has a high level of emotional and energetic mastery. You can tell he's a retainer.

The guys who were led by their dicks and spent all their time and energy on women while young will be worn out by 40/50

this place used to be okay to visit, now it's meta arguments

>>41793051
it's just anons calling each other incels

>>41792950
>good woman
Learn to read, brown
>>41792970
Self-mastery in my mind is something separate altgoether. SR is specificially about sexual purification, which is an aspect of self mastery. It's basically factory reset back to default settings, free from the perversions of porn and everything else.
Self mastery on the other hand encompasses a much wider set of practises. Meditation, energy work, discipline, building focus etc. SR is nothing compared to the gargantuan task of becoming a living God.
>>41792997
Maybe. That guy's got freak genetics + HRT though
But i think totally subduing the sexual instinct is something you save for later. For now, we can have sex with a good woman that we love, i think that's cosmically permitted. I can see why anons disagree with that though.

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today is a good day! let us raise up the wicked serpent; our evil inclination. let it be crucified with christ today. may the desire of our false ego, and our fear and our shame be destroyed in the fire of infinite mercy and truth. and let us do good

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may the angel of the lord descend upon you all, and give you the knowledge and the courage to speak against the deception of this realm. even unto our destruction and annihilation from this world, let us speak righteousness and bring forth the kingdom of righteousness.

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the spawn of satan and his lies are legion but with mana from heaven we will overcome the lies

>>41793111
it's mostly a single incel calling other anons incels.

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we have power that is freely given, from beyond this domain of perception; beyond the influence of the powers of this world

>>41793139
>SR is nothing compared to the gargantuan task of becoming a living God.
I think it's more of the opposite - SR and the other practices you mentioned isn't about doing the 'work' itself, it's about the stuff that you let go. For instance, when doing SR you shouldn't be fighting yourself and your urges as if they're some type of enemy - you're letting go of the power that the urges have over you which reveals your more pure, truer nature. Basically the practices aren't from getting from point A to point B, but more like removing the clouds which was blocking the sunlight

>>41793139
>For now, we can have sex with a good woman that we love, i think that's cosmically permitted. I can see why anons disagree with that though.
Yeah that's your prerogative. I think after some point you do get to the point where you become more conscious of the finiteness of energy, and view relationships in a more pragmatic sense. The sake of being in a relationship and enjoying the temporary comforts it provides, and the temporary distraction from one's loneliness gets pointless without a purpose - due to it being a waste of time and energy. At the highest levels, relationships and sex should be for procreation and providing stability for your offspring. But I'm personally not there yet. I just know that that's how my strongest, highest version of myself would view relationships if I approached them without any personal or survival based fears

>>41791667
Thank you, king

>>41791667
>"mind melting" aspect of sex, where your surrender to the flow and allow the Self to dissolve and momentarily you unify with the lover, and by extension, God.
The 'mind melting' aspect is you energetically regressing - reverting back to unconsciousness from when you were in the womb
>It's advanced stuff though. Most people here will lash out and reject the possibility that you can have sex and be detached from lust
The goal is to be guided by mind. If you really get into tantra you'll find that you'll just keep going back and back to it. There's no freedom and liberation. You have to awaken your mind and strengthen it, not revert it back to unconsciousness. But in the end you do what works for you. Just offering my 2 cents

>>41793278
>I think it's more of the opposite - SR and the other practices you mentioned isn't about doing the 'work' itself, it's about the stuff that you let go. For instance, when doing SR you shouldn't be fighting yourself and your urges as if they're some type of enemy - you're letting go of the power that the urges have over you which reveals your more pure, truer nature. Basically the practices aren't from getting from point A to point B, but more like removing the clouds which was blocking the sunlight
Yeah that's valid. Letting go of things and simultaneously adding too. It's a stable paradox, imo
>Yeah that's your prerogative. I think after some point you do get to the point where you become more conscious of the finiteness of energy, and view relationships in a more pragmatic sense. The sake of being in a relationship and enjoying the temporary comforts it provides, and the temporary distraction from one's loneliness gets pointless without a purpose - due to it being a waste of time and energy. At the highest levels, relationships and sex should be for procreation and providing stability for your offspring. But I'm personally not there yet. I just know that that's how my strongest, highest version of myself would view relationships if I approached them without any personal or survival based fears
My path is one of balance. I reject all extremes. Rejecting all relationships is extreme. Fucking hookers, chasing lots of women at once, jerking to porn is extreme.
It's a fine line to balance. If you've gone too far into degeneracy, then a period of monk mode will help you get back into balance.
Ultimately i want to succeed in all avenues of life. do well with career, make money, have an active social life, be successful with women, all at the same time I work on myself, become a better person, using life as a way to grow spiritually.
I believe that thinking you have to renounce life, believing you must suffer, etc, are all limiting beliefs.

>>41793364
>The 'mind melting' aspect is you energetically regressing
Wrong. I explained exactly what is going on, and you ignored it, trying to retrofit what i say into your framework. What i speak of is the highest secrets, and goes beyond what you can conceive at your current level. So your instinct is to reject it.
As i correctly anticipated:
>It's advanced stuff though. Most people here will lash out and reject the possibility that you can have sex and be detached from lust

>>41793371
>Ultimately i want to succeed in all avenues of life. do well with career, make money, have an active social life, be successful with women, all at the same time I work on myself, become a better person, using life as a way to grow spiritually.
Yeah personally for me t's purpose driven. There's that one thing in your life that you should put all of your energy into. If you're purpose driven, all of the things you mentioned - money, career, women, social life, success will fall into place. The moment you place any of those things above your purpose that's when things fall out of balance. If you're really purpose driven you know that there's an ebb and tide to everything, success comes and goes, women and friends come and go, but you stay consistent to your reason for living and you can weather all storms, reaping the rewards in its process.

>I believe that thinking you have to renounce life, believing you must suffer, etc, are all limiting beliefs.
It's about suffering serving a purpose

>>41793394
No I didn't ignore it. What you described:
>where your surrender to the flow and allow the Self to dissolve and momentarily you unify with the lover, and by extension, God.
is you uniting with the matrix (the womb of creation) by regressing into a primordial state where your mind shuts off and you ultimately become a reactive cog in the machine. Ultimately, God is on the opposite side, where your mind leads you to. Again, it's just my 2 cents. You are free to do you and do all the tantra you want. But truth is truth

>>41791667
>Read Modern Sex Magick by Donald Michael Kraig.
Looked him up and he looks like what I thought he would look like. Yeah go ahead and get your advice from him. You. Do. You. LEL

>>41793427
Wrong.
If you're open minded, read the book. It explains things well. That and the Hyatt book.
If you're closed minded, continue to make up headcanon on what sex magic is about, fitting it into your own preconceived beliefs, never be open to change, then endlessly claim that what you're saying is truth, because as we all know, saying something is true is what makes it true.

choice is yours.

>>41793447
He's a wiccan, which is all about feminine energy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7kahRYZms4

And no, I'm not gonna take advice form a dude that looks like this

>If you're closed minded, continue to make up headcanon on what sex magic is about, fitting it into your own preconceived beliefs, never be open to change, then endlessly claim that what you're saying is truth, because as we all know, saying something is true is what makes it true.
No, I've done a lot of tantra in the past. Shit's an endless pit man.

>>41793441
Donald Michael Kraig is a very well-respected occultist and ceremonial magician
Ask yourself why this is all bothering you. How the possibility that you're wrong about everything is making you lash out at me this hard.

>>41793452
He's not a wiccan. He's a ceremonial magician. The book is not about tantra either. It's Kabbalistic.
Also KEK at you thinking tantra is all about sex. Again proof you're absolutely clueless about these matters.

>>41793455
>How the possibility that you're wrong about everything is making you lash out at me this hard.
How am I lashing out? I'm just laying out facts that happen to disagree with yours. I used to really be into tantra and one of my past gfs was really into that and wicca. It won't lead you anywhere man, I just wanna save you the trouble. The matrix is a real thing - just look up what the root word "Mater - material, maternal, matrix."

>Donald Michael Kraig is a very well-respected occultist and ceremonial magician
Yeah sure. Look at Crowley. Look what happened to him

>>41793464
I understand magic is not for everyone. It's legitimately dangerous. As much as it makes you ascend and cover lifetimes of work, you can fall just as hard and go backwards. I understand your fear of it, and that's totally okay. I will not let myself be ruled by fear.

>>41793472
You are free to believe what you wanna believe, and practice what you wanna practice, my dude. Who am I to tell you what works for you?

>>41793241
If you say women are whores for sleeping with tons of men you get called an incel virgin, it's pathetic. They seem to think if they fight tooth and nail for them in an SR thread on a basket weaving forum it'll somehow improve their chances of fucking them, that's the only reason they do it. Completely delusional

>>41793497
no one care rajneesh

>>41791637
>How are you supposed to do this karezza or tantric sex shit while retaining?
Just... Don't? You shouldn't be doing that stuff anyways lol

>>41793511
>you must live your life following the rules that i follow
/srg/ summarised
utter trash general

>>41791637
of course it's hard. did you think becoming immortal was gonna be easy?

>>41793051
that's every single general. they all have resident schizos nowadays

>>41793572
actual spiritual people arent going to be on 4chan much
its all a waste of time, a guilty pleasure at best
i know a few internet spaces with real enlightened people
but i cant share it here

>>41793452
>>41793477
I've read some shit from Kraig and it is wiccan, it is what I term "spiritual tutti frutti", a little of everything for the masses to entertain themselves.
You are speaking to someone who believes tantra, sex magix, kabbala, etc, is and I quote
>the highest secrets
That should tell you everything about where they really stand.

>>41793553
>you must live your life following the rules that i follow
Just saying, its causing the problems you're trying to avoid

>>41793707
You should worry about your own life first.

>>41791448
Some people use apple cider vinegar.

It's pretty clear there are shills and Jews here to demoralize us and get us off-track. My question is, why are there no such people on r/nofap?

Balls fuckin hurtin.