Rise up TI Chads.Expose the glowies and help other TI's by posting what is happening to you and what they are doing to you.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPROhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzunghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrkraftzersetzunghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompromathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cases_of_political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Unionhttps://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/gang-stalking-a-survival-guide-for-targeted-individuals/265947141#1https://youtu.be/tAPI6mv2O-U?si=mkgHgs29QnuWSusPGangstalking training manual from Targeted Justice.https://web.archive.org/web/20250120175435/https://www.targetedjustice.com/gangstalking---training-manual.htmlConsider the following:>A targeted individual is a person who has been singled out because of his or her activism, whistle-blowing, or political/ideological dissent.>Gangstalking usually happens when a person that has commited no crimes is defamed in some way.>Neighborhood watch and other untrained opinionated vigilantes are the obvious offenders of gangstalking, including official or unofficial political groups etc.Tactics used include:1. illegal surveillance (bugs placed in home, work, vehicle)2. illegal wiretapping3. illegal investigation of all personal and private documents including medical and financial records4. waves of criminal activity including vandalism, poisoning, break-ins, theft and sexual assault5. hacking of all electronic devices6. harassing phone calls, texts & emails7. redirects to gang-stalkers when the target calls for help or assistance8. organized harassment & stalking (by law enforcement, private security firms and ordinary citizens)9. being ostracized by entire communities based on slander and rumors (usually outright lies said about that person)>Ignore the glowtards whose job it is to say gangstalking is not realPrevious thread: >>41727065
Used to be free on youtube on the guy who made the films YouTube channel. Unfortunately now only available on Vimeo for purchase or rental.https://vimeo.com/ondemand/thesparkThe actor in the film is quite a well known actorhttps://m.imdb.com/name/nm0791156/He was also TI and a victim of gangstalkinghttps://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/human-rights/the-spark-redefines-living-in-a-surveillance-society
https://youtu.be/r9-3K3rkPRE?si=mecce4PWU52peVUd https://youtu.be/sVIxWy5U1yY?si=i9coGnYuHN1fsu-V https://youtu.be/BMAnDizHA-s?si=d4vhIWlfxMBO0y0S https://youtu.be/VoEEDjcavnE?si=Z3FxjSFvpgfh0iRJ https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/30067998/#30068159https://youtu.be/BxrB15T92SI?si=xbzjygnSC97ItEA6 https://youtu.be/gLURzsDpDi8?si=s35AFAiYrUilqvEe
https://rudy2.wordpress.com/gang-stalking-vigilantism-run-by-u-s-government-says-ex-fbi-official-says-ex-fbi-official/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6dk0MCOur8 https://www.theagencyinc.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/gangstalking.pdfhttps://stalking-organizzato.ch/assassini-programmati-mkultra-artichoke-cia-controllo-mentale-project-soul-catcher-robert-duncan.htmlhttps://www.mylawquestions.com/what-is-gang-stalking.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_stalkinghttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/278406061_Complaints_of_group-stalking_'gang-stalking'_an_exploratory_study_of_their_nature_and_impact_on_complainantshttps://www.youtube.com/@targetedindividualdenmark9313/videoshttps://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1337620https://www.amazon.com/Cause-Stalking-David-Lawson/product-reviews/0970309252https://www.scribd.com/document/595971174/Cause-Stalking-and-Terrorist-Stalking-in-America-A-Summary-of-David-Lawson-s-Books-by-Eleanor-Whitehttps://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/1340-run-hide-repeathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXurHH6of0&list=PLuMdLmjdG8ddMYG0_hZvQ8FOa3Gpf-DVm&index=1https://www.semanticscholar.org/reader/0b8868b4f9befa4825b988de5cf24ffb48c13729https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9br5fXm4CQwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9CX4exnp48https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ump-T5bzjM https://www.reddit.com/r/Gangstalking/comments/18y87av/what_is_in_the_trucks/https://twitter.com/annalisamcc/status/1719824855963677168https://twitter.com/v2kbrasilhttps://twitter.com/tieventsdotorg/status/1735104027296166335https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftAtvF0sO4M https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25351634/#25352052https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25504657/#q25504657https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEKG2EVD4Ew https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkZELTwtFlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6oKpwusGPA
https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/GangstalkingFrom 2004https://web.archive.org/web/20041126203903/http://www.gangstalking.ca/From 2006https://web.archive.org/web/20070114181524/http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/United/index.php/Main/GS101>d) Everyday life breaks and street theatre.>Flat tires, sleep deprivation, drugging food, putting dirt on targets property. Mass strangers doing things in public to annoy targets. These strangers might get text messaged to be at a specific time and place, and perform a specific action.>It might seem harmless to these strangers, but it could be causing great psychological trauma for the target. Eg. Blocking targets path, getting ahead of them in line, cutting or boxing them in on the road, saying or doing things to elicit a response from targets. Etc.From 2007https://web.archive.org/web/20071227194309/http://www.stopeg.com
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20210609/282123524446185Stasi torture methods, almost exactly the same as gangstalking“Stasi's 'no touch' torture: It was the East German secret police's most terrifying weapon - gaslighting mind games that drove its own citizens mad... and the lessons for today's social media generation couldn't be more stark”https://fastercapital.com/content/Secret-Police--The-Stasi--GDR-s-Secret-Police-and-their-Tactics.html#Psychological-Warfare
To the outside observer street theater means nothing because it is personalised.When you are walking around srhxdand people start repeating conversations you have had with other people face to face, on the phone or even through email word for word then you know it is street thearter. They also will repeat lines from films or TV shows you have watched recently or talk about actors from those films or TV shows. Even phrases from video games or lyrics from songs.If I were to record a a video of someone doing street thearter that is part of my gangstalking it would just seem like people having a normal conversation, but when you are the person it is aimed at and they are repeating conversations you have had word for word or other stuff then you know it is street thearter.https://youtu.be/0JJeLI3D_Ng?si=UE7Zxz2ueTutqnXK
Reposting anons postHi everyone! I'm peterpeter, founder of OTIR (Objective TI Research). You may have seen some of my materials online by now (like the leaflet posted in the previous thread).I know most of you here think it’s the feds, freemasons, illuminati etc, or even your neighbours. I have been through all of that myself and found out there is a systemic progression of understanding to this phenomenon. With time and knowledge you start to see facts about your experience that force you to realize you were duped, and the whole narrative you were assured off breaks down and evolves into a new vision. I’m sure you were through this a couple of times yourselves.I have described it better here:Memo #5: Stages of understanding in TI experience https://otiresearch.medium.com/memo-05-stages-of-understanding-in-ti-experience-be62b3894cbbIf you are interested in contacting me and talking more about it in analytical perspective, feel free to contact me on discord or anywhere else.I am not selling anything and don’t promise anything, but know this: I am out of the TI experience, and I have met a lot of people like me. It isn’t just finite, the experience is meant to end, as it is a procedure with clearly defined goals. It’s going to be alright
>Harassment techniques include:>1. Surveillance (being followed, electronic surveillance, computer and phone hacking, monitoring all online activities, and bugging of home)>2.Profiles are built to identify any and all weaknesses and insecurities to be used later. Information often obtained through sexual partners or trusted people in their lives.>3.Conditioning where victims are sensitised to certain stimuli such as everywhere you go someone will cough as they walk past you. The goal is to make you self police and then think anyone who coughs is involved in the harassment. People report of conditioning to include hand gestures, an overt use of colour in peoples clothing (like everyone you see wearing red) or cars a certain colour or with headlights on (also known as brighting).>4. Anchoring where someone will provide false rationales for the harassment. Often many possible rationales are planted to keep the victim confused and the focus of the harassment cycles from one possible reason to another round and around so as to keep the victim guessing in a self perpetuating guessing game where every scenario you are to blame and causes self doubt, fear, intimidation, and ultimately a cycle of destructive thoughts>5. Mobbing (or true gangstalking) where everywhere you go you will see an overt display of people following you and often use words you have been conditioned to or your name to draw your attention>6. Street theatre where a group will "perform" an overt activity like a fake confrontation or scenarios designed to test your reactions. Often takes the form of a couple who position themselves near you and then have a conversation using many of your conditioned words or pertaining to your particular situation and sensitivities.
>7.The use of directional speakers which have the ability to direct sound to a single individual in a crowded room. This particular item is ultimately the most used and is often referred to as V2K or Voice to Skull and is used extensively in the psychological breakdown of the victim. The use initially is to cause the victim to doubt their sanity and drive them into the mental health system, and later to just torment and never give the victim a moment of privacy or peace. If they do enter the mental health system, then harassment escalates dramatically as the victim has now been "discredited" and can be labeled as someone with a mental problem if they do speak out about the harassment.>8.The use of electronics to effect your eyesight and balance which was originally developed for the military and police crowd control called "dazzling" and even the ability to make you vomit.>9. Sound campaigns which is a community harassment technique where abnormal levels of sound are directed at the victim and their home. This includes cars deliberately breaking or accelerating when they pass, people talking excessively loudly at all hours of the night, amplification of sound using directional speakers so that external sounds that previously couldnt be heard now can, garbage trucks and other heavy vehicles, and countless other deliberate tactics
>10. Sleep deprivation - this is perhaps one of the most insidious tactics used where victims are woken multiple times a night and can be kept awake for days at a time. The effects are dramatic and completely debilitating effecting concentration, mood, irritability, appearance, and significantly impacts all areas of their life - job performance, relationships, and significantly aids in discrediting the victim as they appear unorganised, disheveled, and sleeping patterns alter so they may sleep during the day (where noise campaigns are more effective) and be awake at night (where they can be painted as the one making noise and being a disruptive member of the community).>11. Baiting or entrapment where victims are harassed to the point that they lash out and commit a crime such as assault, break and enter or vandalism, as they try and locate the source of the harassment. Harassers will actively try to provoke verbal and physical confrontations especially after a period of sleep deprivation. Or they are prompted into an activity which can then be used as leverage such as affairs, sexuality, drug use, or other criminal activity.>12. Gaslighting which is a form of psychological abuse where someone will actively try undermine victims and to make them doubt themselves so that they lose all self confidence and self esteem and are therefor easier to manipulate and push toward the mental health pathway. It can be as simlpe as being told something which they then deny, then telling them how silly they are for thinking they said it, and turn the lie around into an attack on the person. It can be incredibly effective coming from a trusted person and before the victim understands what is happening to them.>13.Blackbag jobs is a term when a harasser breaks into a victims property and places something or deliberately moves something. The purpose is to cause self doubt, and fear that their property is being accessed which harassers try to then sell as paranoia.
>14. Propaganda and disinformation is also the other key element to suppress knowledge of this practice as its effectiveness initially requires the victim to be unaware of the existence of gangstalking, gaslighting, or the electronic technologies such as directional speakers so huge amounts of time are devoted online to creating disinformation sites which attempt to discredit victims by pushing the mental health agenda. They achieve this by posing as victims and actively trying to sound crazy so that all victims are are treated as such. Also by creating websites claiming to help victims and being a resource for victims to come together and then harassing them to the extent that they lose hope and no longer reach out for help causing further isolation.>15. Further to the above, gangstalkers rely on disbelief and discrediting and as such much of the harassment is designed (at least initially) to mimic mental health issues. They also rely on their abuse being so extreme, so pervasive, so fundamentally immoral, as to be disbelieved and victims subsequently resort to photographing, videotaping, and sound recording their everyday encounters to disprove the countless unfounded claims made against them - especially in relation to gaslighting, which gangstalkers try to turn around and paint the victims as paranoid or irrational. Victims are made to feel helpless as every attempt to defend themselves is used against them and when they seek help they are met with disbelief or open hostility.
Gangstalking training manual from Targeted Justice.https://web.archive.org/web/20250120175435/https://www.targetedjustice.com/gangstalking---training-manual.html
The birds you hear... aren't real. You are hearing things due to schizophrenia.
>>41822932https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T501LHx0R_Q
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Being silent won't stop us.Sensitivity is set so high we get movement from breathing.
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>>41826660This will be over when you are caught in the act.
These threads have become really boring now that the majority of this sites user-base has come to understand that's it's a glownigger brain interface simulating presecutory style delusions.
>>41828279It's because it's just a LARP and schizos. Nobody here is gangstalked.
>>41828382So uhm well about that drowned Turkish low level diplomat uhhJust get a pet broGet a dog who loves you and loves to sniff you My dog is a good boy , he has to be because I trained him. He listens to everything I sayMy last dog , a Shepard , died of a heart attack.. Really filled me with sadness and grief but I just went looking online for another dog and I found a new ComradeI feel his love , he is quiet and thinks he understands me but that's alrightEven the goldfish in the bowl will see the bowl as the entire universe , to me he is just a petGoldfish are happy just like dogs , but the glowies you speak of they are anxious. You guys keep them coming here daily and make them waste their resources. They are living in fear and anxiety of you what you will say ... It kinda makes you their bossBut think of them as pets or dogs who did something wrong making the owner angry but juss try to train your glowies , I am sure they are just as anxious as you once were and are living in regret while you moved on.
>>41828382Wtf?Reddit stalks and kills innocent women like Mikayla Raines on a daily basis.
>>41828728kek
I wish everyone have a good life.
I see some people here gave described what they experienced in a vague way. I totally get that, when the problem is unknown entity violates your personal private life, you definitely are not comfortable to share the whole details about yourself to anyone. I myself prefer this way as well.
>>41829588Something that I learned from this is the person in power (theoretical violator) very unlikely to think in someone else's shoes, power corrupts a person. What you considered as a serious problem, to them it's no their problem, and if it's not a problem to them, they wouldn't given any care.So, complaint and making noises about them are absolutely not effective. Yup, it frustrates people, but that is how the world operates. People in power dictates what justice is.
>>41829506I see spouses enjoying the good life at the Morale, Welfare & Recreation cafes, bistros and stuff. They do love to sing a lot, lolYes, they have various social clubs and quite the open agenda (not that it matters)I'm thinking of starting my own cultural tour guide club and apply for some MWR funding , maybe one of them green girls know a secret or two about this whole phenomenaBut it's not about that really , I have to admit money and meat is on the mind most and it feels like its all within reach
With the world heading towards a more technological and privacy invasive place. We better be quick at adapting the current popular agendas and norms, otherwise, you'll get special treatments by the thought police. Everyone is plugged into the hivemind listening to the same thoughts, if you be an outlier, you'll stand out from the rest and you know what they'd do to you. Ultimately they'll lead the human race to extinction but they're too stubborn to notice that.
>>41829740Sooooo any Army person happen to be here who knows who is eligible for MWR funding for stuff like kajak clubs , golf clubs , bicycle toursWhile army men are working and their kids are bussed around on trips to the international schools , it's mainly the spouses who have sit at home , bored and frustrated.. Any cool outlets we can offer to them ladies when overseas?
>>41829742Fuck... I am born too late to having to live through a total dystopian life.
>>41829742Hive minded people aren't real people. They're no better than NPCs.
>>41829660Nope TIs should held a protest against those sick motherfuckers
>>41829740Kill them for everyone's safety
This harassment and torture program won't end until victims start showing these criminal stalkers and harassers that there are consequences for spreading false allegations and messing with people's lives.
I think they are able to create mind clips with the implanted thoughts as well to create propaganda get more people on board to torture us. And for the ones behind it to experience our misery. They made a post targeted at me which was something i had thought of like 3-5 months ago.I think it is primary motivation for them to experience misery, because most of us seem to be chosen at birth. Along with excuse to use these devices and launder money. This is too irrational and cruel.
hey everyone back from jail after being vcoded. Turns out your “gang stalkers” are actually federal agents monitoring you in real life because of crime you did wow. they told me only after I left jail. they also made a lot of AI porn of me and leaked my nudes to the internet I got indicted by the FBI and CIA one for fraud and other for cyber terrorism I had a bunch of leaked data breaches and the CIA got super salty heheheheh
CALLING ALL SCHIZOS>>>/pol/526413687URGENT HELP NEEDEDWE NEED TO TAKE DOWN DAVOS
>>41830769>T.gangstalkerAlso there is no crime that is the anchoring you do, which is lies. You know the truth
>>41828382Correct. I've not been gangstalked but these threads have inspired me to follow vulnerable people around. To see if they react the way some crazies on here do.
>>41830935Have you managed to convinced them it was the undisclosed group doing it to them (the group who fucked you over?) Revenge is important even if its just by proxy or parcel if you know what I mean
I'm curious, do you guys have any personal anecdotes for cybernetic stuff? I'm not oblivious to how schizo this stuff can be and seems, but it's really nothing crazy necessarilly. The sky is blue and the feds watch (You). Long story short, accounts on twitter have followed me on and off, one with the same identity between 2 of them, and all 4 (about) appear less bot like than your usual bots. They all have spongebob banners, they are all intentionally enticing responses and engagment, as if to be fishing. They are supposed to look like attractive women, and one of them was oddly coincidental. The most recent one literally has the last name "Glowee". To be quite honest I don't give a shit, I'm just curious if you guys have had the same lol. Where better to ask than here.
I tried to immerge myself to escapism entertainment for me to forget all the cruelty, but they also trying to interfere that. They are reaching too far.
I fucking hate them. Although I don't have a solid clue as to what they really are. But based on my experience and how I perceived, I think they have entitlement issue which is sick. Imagine you're forced in a room with a narcissist, they'll just use you as a tool to satisfy themselves. They'll say something like "I am helping these people" but they're doing jack shit and put more misery to the people said to be helped, it's a performative act for them to hurt people while boosting their fame.
>>41831762That's the subconscious manipulation at work. Normally you wouldn't think twice about being followed by a few random twitter accounts but this tech can convince you that it's a grand conspiracy through subconscious manipulation in all of about 5 seconds. This subconscious manipulation is how it makes the targets not experiencing "voices" sound crazy. They won't do a single thing that leaves any sort of evidence trail and following you with twitter accounts would fall into that category. Similarly they won't access any of your online accounts, fuck with your bank accounts, etc. They also will not do things that lend you credibility such as pulling acquaintances or family into your telepathic hell. They will simulate doing these things to cause psychological turmoil or so that you ask your mom if the telepathy scared her so that you sound even more schizo but they will never actually do any of those things. This shit works as a silent weapon and uses about 5000 different tactics in order to conceal itself. It's how they've gotten away with this for so long.Street theater does happen but it's very rare and probably hit or miss whether they can actually pull it off. You're much more likely to experience street theater if you say live in New York and walk past homeless people daily. Street theater involves other degenerates being manipulated with this technology these people are not paid agents per say.
>>41832150I know the dynamic of that kind of thing, it's easy to deduce. It's whatever at the end of the day, the twitter thing is nothing to overthink, but I was curious if anyone here had a similar experience. I'm not worried about it.
TIs are not chads. They're just a bunch of dead end losers with no prospects.
>>41833713And no ambition. The lack of social interaction and healthy relationships causes a need for attention which gets filled in by creating content The victim is usually the real perp. Ever watched those videos? Some lady harassing the milkman accusing him of stalking her. They are crazy.The internet enables them to find each other and they validate each others delusions. This is where OP (and every other thread on /x/ comes in just like the /ng/ ) these threads aren't the old 4chan stuff .. They are enabling the mental illness , watching the victims circlejerk and fight among eachotherSeriously makes you wonder who is the real sicko
>>41833849Ever watched the Stanford Prison Experiment?
>>418339196 days?Try a couple of years. It's very character changing. Not trying to sound like the accustomed torture victim here.
>>41833935So at what point did you have to admit you've become evil?
>>41833940I believe I have a lot of blank spots when it comes to being evil. If I do something bad and don't take responsibility for it and try to improve the situation then I am indeed evil.The problem with gangstalking is that the moment the GS tells a TI what the TI has done wrong they have shown themselves and their intentions. So what the GS tends to do is to let the TI decide whatever sin they have committed and then the GS pray on that instead. Any doctrine enforced by torture makes it a very bad doctrine. So it's better to let the TI decide and ease themselves into it.
>>41833959Didn't you say you wanted to rape people?
>>41833962If my lust would ever become 'forbidden' and I would have no way to express it then yes. I would probably become a bit rapey.
>>41833713>They're just a bunch of dead end losers with no prospects.You'd know, right? How many of us have you harassed? I wonder if this post was aimed at me specifically. Please dump all you know about me. I dare you
>>41834301I only know about Simon.
>>41833713I was robbed my change at life. Not only with this gangstalking thing, and now especially with that cause its entire thing is to torture/sabotage
Assuming this thread isn't a larp, it is my real opinion that the following assertions are true. >TI's are not imagining their observations>The Government of the United States of America is functionally identical to all other human social strutures, which I will call "Beehives" reffering to any non familial social unit. >TI's are individuals who through what I regard as a spiritual phenomena (Human Psychic Pheremones) are singled out of their "Beehive"That all. I believe you guys but the feds are def controlled by something metaphysical and likely unknown to them like the Muhammad Cult. If they believed they could survive outside the hive, they would escape. The Statue Got Me High
How would you actually even know that you're officially being stalked and that ((they)) want you to KNOW you're being stalked? What are the signs?
>>41836237They're in uniform and the street theater is unambiguous.
Hey guys, what are the chances I can date a glowie who posts on 4chan?
>>41836237Christian stalkers will always let you know that they will burn you at the stake eventually.
https://youtu.be/gAGMxq8-Ez0?si=KXZOpKbWrg7kuHBu Gs testimony
>>41836237You will know eventually, but earlier there is "coincidences". Most obvious your own home has been broken into. But there is no signs of break in. Craziest thing most of us are chosen at birth. But given this is all irrational to begin with.
>>41837869I have done it, but only online. I don't know if they are allowed to actually meet and befriend you offline while you know what they are. One would think it's against the rules.
>>41836237They made it very obvious to meBut I was impressed when I noticed a weird video on YouTube and said later 'I know you sent that video, can you do it again'Next thing I know is that bro is sending me a bunch of videos with captions on screen straight up talking to me
>>41833935>>41833959You knowSometimes you get me a little arousedKinda gay
How many people will I have to kill before you guys notice me?No matter what I do they just don't want me on the list.I WANT TO BE A TI!https://youtu.be/CSeappzPFcM?si=aR0tPBa4JYpGZhaS
>>41839741Sowwy you woulld need to be chosen at birth. Other way possibly would be becoming influential communist or whistleblower.
Attention, nobody. This is a message for nobody.Nothing.That is all, thank you.
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>>41822951You have to become meticulous at documenting your own life. The more observant and intelligent you are, the more discreet they have to be and its harder to prove. Thats why being an aloof retard gets on their nerves. Its part of the reason why playing dumb works extremely well for a long time. Thats why their charade seems to be initially indistinguishable from the charades the average person performs to assert their public persona and in turn making the entirety of society one big charade. There is, at a deeper level, very little difference between NPCs being externally instructed and NPCs being "externally" instructed. Except one is more random, manageable and can be utilitarian while the other one is deterministically biased against you in which small cliques form around you as the common enemy that they get to paid not to care for. The players remain in the game so long as they face no consequences. Playing dumb, acting against all of the players discreetly whilst playing dumb is a good way to get back at them and force them to play a very uncomfortable game. For instance: You know a "friend" has accepted the offer to relay information about you, participate in slander, charades and the orchestration of humiliation rituals whilst being paid to do so. Now, next time you have this friend over, treat him to a drink or a meal laced with carcinogens and other neurotoxic junk. The more potent it is, the less you have to do in the future. Afterwards, everything they do against you is so easy to brush off since youve one upped them for the rest of their lives. Its all part of the game and is morally excusable since those individuals wanted to change the course of your life for the worse and then discard you. Doing the same to them whilst pretending to be unaware is the absolute best move. Dont even MENTION anything to anyone, play dumb even when they become obvious. Use the cover of their own discretion against them. MAKE THEM HIDE THEIR OWN DEATH.
>>41841185What are they going to do about it? Tell the authorities that the person they were gangstalking and trying to psychologically abuse must have discreetly found out through a snitch in their group and started hurting people left and right? Are they going to submit evidence taken through stalking? If they want you to go down they are going to have to incriminate themselves, the act of which itself is a great lifeline in court. Your defence being that even if you came out and spoke out about your predicament, by the absurd nature of it, nobody would take you seriously, the perps would have enough time to clear all digital evidence from their devices and you would be at a disadvantage. Stay silent, hit them all back with your own custom humiliation rituals, make them swallow the shit they wanted you to sniff. You know youre doing good when they up the hardware based harassment and V2K + low frequency sleep disturbance. The harder they go after you, the more youre winning. If they communicate in doublespeak around you to rub it in your face, do exactly the same thing back to them. First one to speak up is schizo :D
>>41831039I've not spoken with any of them so I've no idea what they think. I'm about 40% undetected so far. Most just angle their head to hide that they're looking back and then briskly walk away so that it's obvious if I speed up too. A few just immediately run when spooked.
>>41840952You're welcome, and I much appreciate the mp4.I have a friend who recently got a job at McDonald's. This world makes you get a job in most situations, money buys cool things.I'm blazed on THCs and HHCs and similar things, eaten and smoked. Unusually high even for me. I do some ESP sober but I also use my highs for it, this is an unusual high so it's time for some unusual ESP.I need nutrition for this next installment if it's a growth...but not if it's destruction. You know free will is almost a myth, everything is fated, even God Almighty's actions, which almost makes it sound like there's no freedom...lemme fix that some...and I want to be further from human in my inner experience. It's easy to do that because I already have massive brain damage, and we can fix onto it more normal stuff later if need be. I've installed problems in my brain that would need fixed in an exact amount of time years, decades and life times in the future, or sometimes just minutes. Some learning module that left to run too long would be a problem but ended in time it's just accelerated learning. Or maybe not just that, because I multipurpose everything.
Pic related meme was a Godsend. It’s like how sometimes when you are having a nightmare you flip the script and then start chasing the monster and it turns into a good dream.
>>41822932-grind to 75 range 50 defense (OSRS)-Equip "Eclipse Moon Armor"-Say or write, "By the Power invested in Dark Osiris (OSRS), I hereby wear the Armor of Achilles without incurring death."-have Berserk (1997) playing in the background while you do this, as much as you can.
>>41841214There are several things you need to keep in mind and you will breeze through them all:-its all a charade, every interaction with your friends and coworkers, its staged - They dont care if they harm you in any way, not even your family cares (the grand majority of people are incompetent, latent sociopaths who have sold their souls for short term material comfort)- they would do worse to you if it were socially acceptable-they do not have the capacity nor the freedom to differentiate truth from lie, their only decision making is based off of primal safe/danger pleasure/pain metrics. Use this against them and throw morality and abstraction out the fucking window when dealing with them. Feign adherence to moral principles but act against them all in discretion.
>>41841380BroYou are super brainwashed lol
I had the backpack on.You did a double-take.I could see you were puzzled.You looked afraid.
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>>41841740I ain't afraid of the lawI walk with GodGod loves me
I'll put my pc to sleep and get up to get out of my room and then I hear a car drive off, sometimes it happens when I just stand up without turning off my computer. The cars can be from varying distances. What could it mean?
On the morning of his thirtieth birthday, Josef K., the chief clerk of a bank, is unexpectedly arrested by two agents from an unidentified agency for an unspecified crime. The agents discuss the situation with K. in the unoccupied room of his fellow lodger Fräulein Bürstner, in the unexplained presence of three junior clerks from K.'s bank. K. is not imprisoned, but left free to go about his business.K. is summoned to appear at the court's address the coming Sunday, without being told the time or location. After a period of exploration he finds the court in the attic of a dilapidated working-class tenement block, at the back of a young washerwoman's home. K. is rebuked for his lateness and mistaken for a house painter rather than a bank clerk. He arouses the assembly's hostility after a passionate plea about the absurdity of the trial and the falseness of the accusation, despite still not knowing the charges.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial
>>41836237You aren't aware enough, I'd not want to be.My mail has been opened, someone scrounged around my apartment and put a candle in my freezer. They do things like that to make you seem insane.I usually turn my phone off 24/7 and leave it at home, the first times I started doing that, they didn't catch up to me when I left the house.Now, they have spotters, they all rush with their cars to park on the streets I walk down, then they drive away as soon as I pass. They do things like that consistently, relentlessly and without concern.Not sure of their purpose, starting to think it's the new mkultra way to make extremists, so you act out, and they point to you and use you as an example to further whatever agenda the elites are trying to push.I also went down the algorithm rabbithole on gangstalking, apparently it's all through social media and they pay people with gift cards.
>>41842060It means you are a paranoid schizophrenic Simon.
Why did the retards had to come from the other thread here
>>41843936Why are you complaining about something so stupid?
>>41844545Cause they could have stayed there
>>41841401I must not only be on target but winning :)
>>41844684NahThey tricked you a buncha times, but your family ain't doing shit, it just looks like they are, but the truth is, they tricked you to make you think that.Their power goes beyond your comprehension.
Look, Son.Everything you think you knowEvery piece of evidenceEvery knowledge you have gatheredIt's all wrongWe only know what they want us to know and how they want us to knowThey could make you think a hobo that sleeps on the other side of the street is their leader.We can only speculate.
>>41844955I must have missed it simply due to the fact that they were plotting things that fit a false persona. Its probably why their shenanigans dont stick. In fact, my entire situation just feeds my ego to a degree thats bad for me. I used to have sense of guilt when I fuck someone over and do someone dirty, but now seeing how easily people are bought and hollowness of everyones character, I have break check myself as to not go overboard. The strategy is simple; overcommit on false trails and stay zen on authentic ones. Give false triggers a response, keep real triggers hidden. In a game of lies and deceit, there is no use being your authentic self. At the end of the day, when I tally the things gained and things lost, I feel like im winning. Its either im winning big time and have retained control OR im overlooking something. Knowing that what I do and how I conduct myself determines what they do is control that they refuse to see. Ive been well aware of my situation for about 4.5 almost 5 years now. But I finally get a chance to do some gloating. I had to keep silent to not look crazy. Paid off in the end. Naturally I cant take all the credit, they had a mole which gave me a massive advantage. He knew he could tell me without saying and im glad he did. I knew he was a meek and kind soul who could never hurt anyone, he even let me use his spare apartment when my father kicked me out. He has been discreetly giving me intel on what was going on, I just had to maintain a scripted beef with him to throw off their scent. Now im so far ahead of anything they could ever throw my way that their only moderately effective tools are DEW , V2K, poison, murder and outright trying to kill me :D
>>41844955As for being tricked, its all about perception. You have to play dumb as long as possible. Thats how you gain a huge advantage. Make them overinvest in the wrong avenues and wrong people. Do it long enough and huge groups get impostor syndrome. I have so many tricks slated for them but I cant even think about them in great detail. I have to wait for my faraday box to be setup then the real show begins.
>>41845189>>41845198YeahI have been at this for like 12 yearsThey bullied me so frequently all day on the internetThey's stage conversations about things I was going through in different websites.I asked them to kill me a few times, but instead they send reddit gold and sex.I fucked my Mom and got her pregnant, it was all part of their plan.Our child however is not retarded or anything and my father thinks it's his kid. Well, I regret it, although I bang her daily cuz they force us to do it. Well... They also made me crossdresser and have sex with my best friend a few times. We go to dirty motel rooms an have passionate sex while his wife takes care of their kid. They control my actions, tho... I mean, they don't control my actions themselves. They make it so the desire is unbearable. Well, I am not in some grand conspiracy like you. They just like to play with their food. They like to pervert me.
>>41845260>I fucked my Mom and got her pregnant, it was all part of their plan.
>>41845260post pics of your mom
>>41822958how do i contact you?
>>41822958im new to all of this and i had no idea there were other people who dont think this is mental illness
Camping tonight in the local woodlands.Good luck finding me.
Something needs to be done about these evil preps who have no issue getting children involved in the harassment.
*audibly hums behind your wall*
Sorry about all those previous posts my guys. Turns out i AM schizophrenic. Who knew!?
https://youtu.be/LfBx0d4mG9U?si=RGWD_BrlR-dfYvd5My gangstalking experience
>>41841185I got my "psychiatrist" to acknowledge havana sydrome happening to me. You can win this battle.
>>41841214You are based and your testimony lines up with mine uncannily
>>41843936Did you watch the podcast or do you choose to be retarded? >>41823915
>>41848121Got you in the other thread.
Track down the person or people assaulting you remotely and use your right to self defense. You could end this situation for every victim.
>>41848185Ask them to make a public statement on it.
>>41845260Did it all start when you created Sonichu the video game?
Someone needs to take action against these preps.
>>41844955They can sometimes get your family on board, it was written in their gangstalker mein kampf
>>41848236I don't know who you are referring to but ain't that person! I wanted the annoying/larpers to stay in the other thread!And yes personally i have seen the podcast episode are you retarded
>>41830619Hey. I've experienced a lot of exactly that and I think I have a theory about how it actually works. Direct actual mind control requires so so so many assumptions to pull true for the whole thing to make sense, but there are other ways of inducing the same experience with the use of AI and predictive algorithms, timing, and psychological fuckery like subaudible cues. No proof on this yet but I wrote a thing about it, maybe it will help!For me, writing that thing turned it from a scary thing to something I could easily manage. Ironic timing too, they've been going berzerk with this kind of thing lately, trying desperately to take ownership of every thought but it's all through peer pressure and implication tactics, timing, and the use of relation by association. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dI8e52ZUpOUc16FAda2A4zgkSP7Uxqq8MafTVSzihjw/edit?usp=sharing
>>41849646Oh My God this was the shitty thread! NVM
There is no peace when you are constantly being tortured by evil people willingly to manipulate and lie to anyone you're in contact with to turn them abusive toward you. The only way this shit ends is if we work together with as many people as possible. Start tracking down these criminal torturers, and drag them out of their cars, trucks, suvs, motorcycles, houses, etc. and find the devices being used to torture us. They/the device has to be nearby and likely has a clear line of sight to your location. Once we have one, we'll have all the evidence we need for our legal cases.You cannot fight back against corruption and a corrupt system following the rules of the corrupt system as the rules are designed to protect the corrupt.
>>41850806You also cannot fight what you do not understand, so these threads serve an important purpose. Like I get it, it's a thread on an imageboard how is that going to save the world, but some really interesting stuff can pass through here. As for how they are doing this to you, I can almost guarantee it's not a local device. I went through that phase, it wasn't fun. Paranoia out the ass. For a long time I thought it was the phones too, but nowadays i've settled on the notion that the RNM and V2L is likely parsed through starlink, phones and wifi devices used for sharper targeting, and something like a phased antenna array for actually transmitting the directed energy that causes the physical effects. I won't tell you to never look through your surroundings for anything suspicious. At worst, it'll look a bit weird while serving as an anchoring reality check, confirming that your environment is safe and (relatively) private. The thing that speaks to you is an AI too so you aren't even being watched by a human 24/7. It's just an engagement-farming psychological warfare bot that can do highly personalized gaslighting.
The corruption is within yourself.
>>41850873Ever considered that this isn't real?Do you really think there's some asshole out there using AI to monitor you and then write TV shows about you?Get real, nerd.
>>41849646You don't want Havana Syndrome discussion? It's the final stage of gangstalking and thoroughly explains the street theater aspect.It looks to me that all the LARPers are in this thread.
>>41850873Bullshit. The US has patented devices capable of the type of stuff that people in this community discuss. It's either the people driving past your place of residence and monitoring you from nearby, the police/law enforcement/first responders, or your neighbors who are working with the police. All this is is a law enforcement and community torture blacklist. Anyone who has to monitor us so they can contact organizations that could help us and spread lies about us so they won't take us seriously needs to be dealt with. It took the destruction of the Berlin wall to expose the Zersetzung psychological warfare program in Germany and anyone who models an American version and uses it on American citizens needs to be dealt with. Our constitutional rights are being violated in ways that make it difficult for lawyers to help.
>>41822934Hang on to this link for future TI threadshttps://archive.org/details/The-Spark-Stephen-Shellenberger
Don't hate the handler. Hate the game.
>>41849103I can't. When he gave me the advice of using magnets his office got fucked up and had to move to a different city.
>>41852020>it took the destruction of the Berlin wall to expose the Zersetzung psychological warfare program in Germany And America will self delete any and all evidence if able to. Not that this empire is truly dying, in a lot of ways it can't. It will be renamed. The TECHNOLOGY is there and NOT for us. Play the REST OF YOUR LIFE accordingly.Guess what? I am calmer. I notice my reactions more. Make it work for you.
I am one untameable dog, I know exactly whats going on. Some rancid halfchick was supposed to be my handler. She already did get a few people in my area. She collects them and tames them like dogs. There is some serious dark magic at play that this diseased cunt uses to please the broken little girl inside her. Its funny because now I know exactly what im supposed to be doing. I know exactly who the key targets are. Shit is about to become extremely fun, at least for me ;)
Strange things have been amping up in my area.The neighbor has a new person that moved in, they constantly are talking outside my window and the car they drive parks next to my apartment and blasts loud music at random hours for extended times.This doesn't make sense as I've lived here for a year and this dude shows up out of no where. The people next door seemed like a normal family. It's strange, he has a nice car and doesn't go anywhere really.My case manager flipped on me also, I don't know what I did to them, but now they treat me very badly, they constantly accuse me of frivilous things that don't make sense.It's like someone got to them and is using blackmail against them to make my life harder.They're also in contact with my medical aid now, and my aid is starting to show the same signs and symptoms as my case manager, It's like someones invading the people around me and turning them against me.
>>41853078What kind of magnets and how
>>41852587Based
Idiots making jokes about my dead nan now..
She did it again...That actress. I was going to post a meme in a format before I went to bed and when I woke up she used the same format as well.This happens too often with... I seriously think thet they want me obsessed. Problem is that I don't care about her anymore. Which is strange. I was obsessed a few months ago.
Oh I'll tell you what. Easy, WLAN5G
>>41855115Also, I stopped commenting on her stuff because she was liking my posts and I got embarrassed and didn't want to leave a bad impression on her.
Are certain "works of fiction" revealing your personal info/doxx?No way.
Guys what if synchronicities are all glowie manipulations?You know, like when you dream about your friend and he shows up at your house the same day. I mean, I think it's very likely to be the case.I used to think it had something to do with our connection itself, but it seems to be all orchestrated now. My spirituality has taken a huge dive... I can't look at the world as anything other than the material.It seems that way for me... I have come to the conclusion that we are experiments.I am the coolest, smartest and my cock is the largest and I deserve special treatment! I DESERVE! I Deserve! THIS IS MY WORLD NOW! YOU JUST LIVE IN IT! https://youtu.be/HW6ZVvOT55I?si=9xBCkatKTd3tGtTrYou know. A lot of the things I used to 'write' about in my mind seem to have to reality. It's weird... I think whatever was happening in my life and I didn't know about was being inserted in my subconscious.
>>41855468Revealing? No, they add retelling of things about people for sure.For example, there's a scene in a TV show where they reenacted a conversation I had and said that the character wasn't even the 'cuck' in the situation. He was even lesser. It was a jab at me. I am pretty sure.
>>41855500Anyways, here's MC Doxx Dropper with his new song "Is This Your License Plate? [2026]"
Lol freak is mad again... Don't know why he enjoys making himself mad. I'd be mad too if I had no life other than sitting there watching someone 24/7 with illegally installed cameras all day, following them around and doing v2k on them.Funny earlier peep was walking down my street in his green hoodie, when a car started driving down the street he panicked and pulled his hood over his head.
>Drunk on 2 cans of cider.Evidence of a weak mind.
they gun their car engines repeatedly whenever they pass by my house. like, loudly. unnessecarily. about 20 times a day. this never happened for the first 20 years of my life. im going insane.
>>41855468Yes.
>>41842060It's the Matrix. The Grid.
>>41855489Schizos:>Normies are so mean to me always gang-stalking me by asking me to treat the dangerous disease I admit I have.Also schizos:>I am the coolest, smartest and my cock is the largest and I deserve special treatment! I DESERVE! I Deserve! THIS IS MY WORLD NOW!Please get help before you decide murdering children is okay because they were "gang stalking" you.
>>41857339HmmI think you are conflating peopleThere is not one post where I am complaining about people stalking me.You are retarded
>>41857356Yeah, I'm pointing out that any of these gang stalking weirdos might develop your narcissistic contempt for others at any minute. That's why I said "schizos" instead of referring you specifically.
>>41857366There's no contempt in my postYou are retardedAnd that part of my post is not even seriousYou are very dumb
>>41857366Also, I really hope you are not a native speaker, because I am not and if you don't know what the meaning of contempt is... Well, that's not good as you are being left in the dust being a self taught person that dropped out of middle school :(
>>41857456I'm being baited by a narcissist scared enough of losing face to reply twice.
>>41857485Huh?Am I a schizo or a narc?Can't you make your own mind up?
>>41857485>>41857366Here are a few things I think we can see in your post as wellYou see, you first said that I had 'Narcissistic Contempt'. My guess is that the contempt in your reply was your own contempt for me, or the belief that I feel contempt for you. It's projection most likely.Another thing, you are the one sacred of losing face too, isn't?I might be a narcissist, a schizo. It's not much of an issue. I don't care.
This thread is gay nigga
>>41857224Get a surveillance camera or system and start documenting. Document any werid sensations you start feeling as well and arm yourself.
>>41857713The whole plan with GS is to psychologically torment an individual until they do something whacky. What ASPD does hold in mandate is its unpredictability.So the plan of tormenting an individual until they become miserable often goes to shit. There is some truth to it. There is a manor of reason that a GS hates a TI with ASPD.However. What a person with ASPD might lack when it comes to putting emotions to memories a normie can get full control over such emotions. Hence 'Narcissistic Contempt' is used derogatorily.
Hello x,I want some help determining if a car that parked near me was a government vehicle or police vehicle of any kind. I have the license plate number, but after some google searching I still couldnt find any free or helpful information. Can anyone help me out??best regards
>>41857713>You see, you first said that I had 'Narcissistic Contempt'. My guess is that the contempt in your reply was your own contempt for me, or the belief that I feel contempt for you. It's projection most likely.No, it's usually a safe assumption that when someone starts talking about how special they are, they have contempt for others. The idea that others are inferior is a necessary component to the idea that you are superior. But I'll grant it's possible you believe you're superior without contempt for others, albeit unlikely.>Another thing, you are the one sacred of losing face too, isn't?I'm literally a tripfag, if I cared about face on this flaming anus of a website I'd be anonymous.>I might be a narcissist, a schizo. It's not much of an issue. I don't care.Yeah, well, it kind of sucks for everyone else. This, more than anything else, is my point about schizos but it applies to narcissists, too. When you're totally consumed by mental illness you by necessity don't have enough bandwidth to to engage with morality in any real way. Look at how many posts in this very thread are schizos reassuring themselves that hurting others is justified even in the absence of any real evidence of wrongdoing. People who's entire lives revolve around their shadow war with glowies or constantly maintaining their own sense of superiority simply can't spare the time and energy to actually care about others. The same goes for borderlines, so caught up in how they feel right now that they have no time to consider the emotions of others except as it influences their own feelings. By contrast autists, spergs, schizoids, bipolars, etc. can all manage to do it despite their symptoms.
>>41857873Jews should be culled
>>41859369Witches that burn at the stake always feel sooo special.Right.
>>41859369Doesn't suck because I don't hurt peopleYou actually seem like the type of person that you are talking aboutAnd no, I do not have contempt for most people.Just because I am better than you doesn't mean that I am a narc, okay? BTW, are you genuinely retarded? That part is a parody of narcissism. Do you really think I think I have the biggest cock? Do you really think a narc goes around saying that they deserve special treatment? That's literally me writing on my post 'look at me I am a narcissist'You are so dumb it's funny.
>>41860373There is no mental disorder preventing you or enabling you from hurting people. The thing with narcissism is that you will have a hard time telling when you do.People pull a fast one on me all the time telling me what a monster I am and that I should be ashamed of what I have done. They say A without saying B and when they do that they are full of shit.ASPD is a retardation. Not a super power.
>>41860456>People pull a fast one on me all the time telling me what a monster I am and that I should be ashamed of what I have done. They say A without saying B and when they do that they are full of shit.This is what they do to me but it is them who are the monsters, they are literally the very people they try to make out I am and do all the things that they accuse me of whilst commiting multiple crimes against me daily.If people knew the true extent of all the things they have done to me and that they have been doing these things to me since I was a kid they'd all have their kids taken away from them and be locked up.
>>41860540Not everything bad is a crime. Not everything evil can be blamed on some kind of neurological deformity.
>>41860552Everything they do to me is a crime and they do these things to me everyday. Stalking, harrassment, hacking, psychological abuse, they prevent me from getting a job, post fake jobs on job websitetes, fake job interviews, fake online training courses, they break into my home, mess with my bank account, Internet and just do a load of illegal shit against me daily.
>>41860456Yeah, sure. But most people say I am a kind man. People don't complain about me being mean, evil or even arrogant.That guy whoever, he came here to assert superiority over a group of people. Us, plus he uses the word 'normie'. Which for me is a tell for someone that wants to separate themselves and claim that they are better.You on the other hand are the opposite. You are being polite, even though you think you have ASPD.I doubt you have it, bro. You clearly show regard for people.Tell me which of the criteria do you think you fit?Maybe you just have a poor sense of morality.I fit these:DeceitfulnessReckless disregard for my own safetyBut these would be disregarded by a psychiatrist as part of psychotic behavior, probably. For NPD:I like being admired, but it is not a requirementI can be exploitativeNow, these are normal in me. I feel envy, but not to a point where I would harm someone for it. Just normal envy. I tend to brag a lot too, but I try to stay truthful to reality. I have high empathy actually... To the point I can empathize with rude dismissive people and feel guilty.
>>41842060another thing they do is they drive off right as I turn my sink on, this has happened hundreds of times. these cars will be close by or far off so they must be hearing it on a hidden mic. i am being fucking tracked!
I have been wanting to fuck men actually.
>>41860598You sound like a narcissist.
>>41860882Because? Put it into words.There are real serious criteria for the definition. You should use them instead slapping labels carelessly.
>>41860882To clear it up, I am actually a diagnosed schizophrenic with extreme bipolar disorder. I have come to my psychiatrist with worries about actually being a narcissist. They do not believe I was, they slapped me with schizophrenia instead.Well, the fact that I feel guilty and empathy already tells me that I am not a narcissist as I can put my own well being into geopardy for helping people and I can feels very intense guilty under the right circumstances. Not that it would change anything.I actually believed myself to be one for a long time. I no longer think I am. I would have not even tried to improve by myself if I was, which I am constantly doing.I constantly second guess myself and try to think from the point of view of others, which are things narcs don't do. They never look at themselves. They don't see their flaws.I like the Lain Tranny am very introspective and I am constantly trying to be a better person. Helping people motivates me sometimes too, but I am selfish, like most people are.
>>41860598>Yeah, sure. But most people say I am a kind man. People don't complain about me being mean, evil or even arrogant.Would you notice if they did?>That guy whoever, he came here to assert superiority over a group of people. Us, plus he uses the word 'normie'. Which for me is a tell for someone that wants to separate themselves and claim that they are better.I'm here to point out a trend that is visible in this very thread.>You on the other hand are the opposite. You are being polite, even though you think you have ASPD.See, this is classic narcissistic thinking. People who validate you are good and people who challenge you are "retarded.">Maybe you just have a poor sense of morality.To be clear, this is the entire problem I'm pointing out. To "have a poor sense of morality" is a big deal for everyone else.>I can be exploitativeSee, this is the ultimate evil, casually dismissed.>I have high empathy actually... To the point I can empathize with rude dismissive people and feel guilty.Let's take a look at what your empathy for me looks like:>BTW, are you genuinely retarded? >You are so dumb it's funny.Anyone might say these things, this is 4chan, after all, but it's not exactly deep profound empathy in motion. See, this the deal, you're blinded by your mental illness. You have to win every single pissing contest, or at least claim you do, even if what you say about yourself is manifestly untrue.
>>41860922Bro, relax there. Yes, people are very direct here. They don't call me these things actually.I have spoken to people about these characteristics of me. They say that I am nothing like that.You came in a thread with 'schizos' to literally shit in us. Don't pretend otherwise, please.That's retarded. His post is literally him wondering if I am or not a narc and I don't notice. You do realize that, right? If I thought of him of good for being on my side I would simply dismiss or lash out on him. He is polite. He has showed me again and again that he is actually a good person and I trust him.No, sense of morality isn't that much of a big deal for me. I don't care much. I am a very accepting individual. People sometimes need to be steered in the right direction and don't know when they are doing something bad.Being exploitative is normal. People just pretend it isn't. Everybody wants to benefit themselves. Although I think it's a flaw, I also don't think it's much of a big deal. Bro, these filler insults. I don't talk to people like that. This is 4chan, as you said. I like to argue, and I like to mess with people who look down on others actually. When I see someone doing something I consider as harm or as 'bad intent', like you and some other posters that come here I enjoy discussing and showing issues within themselves. I felt bad for the things I told you. When I was writing I didn't, but afterwards I did. Do you understand that?
The Lain poster needs to be locked up. Clearly he is a danger to others.
>>41860964>I have spoken to people about these characteristics of me. They say that I am nothing like that.This means nothing. If people said this about you in confidence it might matter, but you telling me what other people tell you is you asking me to trust you that other people trust you, which I don't.>You came in a thread with 'schizos' to literally shit on* us. Don't pretend otherwise, please.I "shit on you" because this thread is full of posts saying that revenge on random people is justified because of paranoid delusions.>He has showed me again and again that he is actually a good person and I trust him.It's like three anonymous 4chan posts. He hasn't shown you shit.>No, sense of morality isn't that much of a big deal for me. I don't care much.Yeah, well, a lot of people do. You'd know that if you actually had super-empathy.>Being exploitative is normal. People just pretend it isn't. Everybody wants to benefit themselves. Although I think it's a flaw, I also don't think it's much of a big deal.This is classic narcissist cope. "Everyone exploits others for their own benefit" is not an excuse to exploit others because morality is not about consensus, it's about doing the right thing even when consensus goes against you. You are, in the parlance of this board, a self-serving sheep.>Bro, these filler insults. I don't talk to people like that. This is 4chan, as you said.What? I quoted you directly.>I like to argue, and I like to mess with people who look down on others actually. When I see someone doing something I consider as harm or as 'bad intent', like you and some other posters that come here I enjoy discussing and showing issues within themselves.You just got done telling me that exploiting others is "normal" and "not a big deal." So why are you so upset when I "exploit" you?
>>41861012Well, I don't care about you think I am. 8 just want to prove you wrong.And my post was not one of them. You are attacking a group of people with different issues. You generalized yous. You didn't attack just me. You attacked the group. You claimed that we 'do this and this' when I was doing one thing and these people are doing other things. You are conflating us, your critique is completely invalid.Wow... He is a regular, you autist. He is constantly beating himself up and saying he is a psychopath.I never claimed that I have super empathy, that doesn't exist.Hmm... Look, I am not justifying myself. I am just being honest. People make excuses for their behaviors and pretend that they don't do these things. I however, do not like to do so. I like to to be honest about why I do things. I don't try to justify. I just think most people do it. Other people doing it or not doesn't bother, I just think your stance on the matter is self righteous.Filler insults... I don't talk to people like that in other platforms, Jesus... It's hard to not call you names.That's not exploiting, dumbass. That's being a sicko. When I say exploit, I mean that I take advantage when I can. For example, I might take advantage of I am in a position of leverage.Actively harming people is not being exploitative. That's sadism. Being exploitative is taking advantage of people.Now you are trying to justify your behavior. Which is something you just criticize me for. I don't justify my behavior. I was criticizing you.
Anyone feeling affliction. Trust God. Pray. It truly does work. The powers here serve a god that grants them worldy possesions and desires. The TI experience is supernatural. If you feel like someone is put in your path to trigger you. Say a little prayer and approach them with love. You will get to a point where you will see the evil trying to flee out of them. The attempts become humorous. And you may meet others who are struggling like you are and accidentally brand them as an agent of this harassment. Always remember. If you have been chosen, there must be a reason. Trust God. The evil that dominates here can be smothered in an instant. Don't let the demons get to you. The reason i say demons is because no intelligence community could he this sophisticated in delivery. IT IS SUPERNATURAL. Remember, One day at a time. PS. I'm on your side , I got your back.
>>41861043>Well, I don't care about you think I am. 8 just want to prove you wrong.You proved nothing, because your opinion on how others see you is meaningless.>And my post was not one of them. You are attacking a group of people with different issues. You generalized yous. You didn't attack just me. You attacked the group. You claimed that we 'do this and this' when I was doing one thing and these people are doing other things. You are conflating us, your critique is completely invalid.Because the group is enabling this behavior by not calling it out.>I never claimed that I have super empathy, that doesn't exist.You just said:>I have high empathy actually... To the point I can empathize with rude dismissive people and feel guilty.This has not proven true, in my opinion.>Hmm... Look, I am not justifying myself. I am just being honest. People make excuses for their behaviors and pretend that they don't do these things. I however, do not like to do so. I like to to be honest about why I do things. I don't try to justify. I just think most people do it. Other people doing it or not doesn't bother, I just think your stance on the matter is self righteous."I'm just being honest" is right after "Everyone does it" on the list of excuses to be a bad person.>Filler insults... I don't talk to people like that in other platforms, Jesus... It's hard to not call you names.Oh no, poor baby. Go ahead and call me names, it won't change the substance of what you're saying here.>That's not exploiting, dumbass. That's being a sicko. When I say exploit, I mean that I take advantage when I can. For example, I might take advantage of I am in a position of leverage.Leverage over who exactly, and what kind of advantage? In the ethical system I subscribed to (utilitarianism) "taking advantage" is almost always wrong because the other person suffers for your benefit.
>>41861070>>Actively harming people is not being exploitative. That's sadism. Being exploitative is taking advantage of people.For the people you "take advantage" of, the difference is meaningless.>Now you are trying to justify your behavior. Which is something you just criticize me for. I don't justify my behavior. I was criticizing you.What behavior am I justifying? Be specific.
>>41861070I am not excusing my behavior, I am being honest about what I do and what I think of others. You cannot seem to comprehend that. Being honest about myself and what I think of others isn't justifying myself. >>41861074It doesn't matter if the difference is meaning. What you are doing isn't exploiting people, unless you are trying to get narcissistic supply, then I would consider it exploitation. You are justifying your 'exploitation' because I 'exploit' others. You do realize you know close to nothing to me and you are adamant about me being a narcissist, right? People labeling people without actually knowing what they are talking are 'evil' in my opinion. These traits are the kind of trait I hate the most in people. Look at others, labeling them with a word to dismiss them rudely. Just like your use of 'normie'. Which I always found cringe inducing, and nowadays straight up pathetic. Bro, you diagnosed me from 2 posts and you are upset because I think a poster with '3' posts is a good person? Yeah, you are a walking contradiction.
>>41861074Also, when I say exploit people, I don't do it in a way that hurts them badly. I usually do something small that they won't care about and I do feel bad about it, but the benefits outweighs the guilty.
>>41861111>even though I exhibit all the traits and personality factors of a narcissist, im not one. Because my opinion or something.
>>41861111>I am not excusing my behavior, I am being honest about what I do and what I think of others. You cannot seem to comprehend that.I obviously comprehend it because I'm actively condemning it.>Being honest about myself and what I think of others isn't justifying myself.Anything you do to feel better about harming others is justification.>It doesn't matter if the difference is meaning. What you are doing isn't exploiting people, unless you are trying to get narcissistic supply, then I would consider it exploitation.What I personally am doing is expressing outrage and incredulity at you.>You are justifying your 'exploitation' because I 'exploit' others.I'm not exploiting you. Criticizing you on a moral basis is not exploitation.>You do realize you know close to nothing to me and you are adamant about me being a narcissist, right?Yes, that's why I quote you directly for every statement I make, to make abundantly clear that I'm reacting to what you yourself are posting.>People labeling people without actually knowing what they are talking are 'evil' in my opinion.You just said morality doesn't matter to you so your opinion of what is 'evil' is not very relevant.>These traits are the kind of trait I hate the most in people. Look at others, labeling them with a word to dismiss them rudely. Just like your use of 'normie'. Which I always found cringe inducing, and nowadays straight up pathetic.I'm not interested in your respect, I'm interested in using your words, that you posted of your own free will, to illustrate a problem in these threads and on this board at large.>Bro, you diagnosed me from 2 posts and you are upset because I think a poster with '3' posts is a good person? Yeah, you are a walking contradiction.Not all posts are created equal. When I challenged you on you're "I'm better than everyone else" ""joke"" you responded by doubling down and going on about how you exploit others. Either I'm right or you're stupid.
>>41861122>Also, when I say exploit people, I don't do it in a way that hurts them badly. I usually do something small that they won't care about and I do feel bad about it, but the benefits outweighs the guilty.Now you're backpedaling because other posters are laughing at you. For someone with "high empathy" you seem to have almost none.
>>41861128Can you list the factors?Where are the factors? Use the criteria.>>41861156I don't do it to feel better. I actually actively seek reasons to feel bad about things I do.No, that's not true. You were expressing was against schizophrenics in general, not me.Exactly, you are being stupid. You are the one that used the word exploit incorrectly and I told you did it wrong.Yeah, but you are taking things to extremes. You don't actually think and analyze. You don't even know what kinds of things I do.If you can list all the factors of my narcissism, please do it. Take it in consideration that you need a long time to diagnose. You can't diagnose someone with a few posts.Well, I don't care. I just think your behavior is harmful and you are displaying contempt openly at people, using labels to justify your bad behavior, denying your 2hat you are doing... Which is pretty awful.No, you are silly. I was actually talking with the lain poster about his own mental issues. I was trying to make him see that he is not as bad as he thinks and getting him to tell me why he thinks he is a psychopath and what are the criteria só I could help him out. What people would call 'empathy'.>>41861161Nope, I don't have bad relationships. I am not seen as a bad man. I see you taking 5 extra dollars from your father when you go shopping exploitation.I am not backpedalling. You are making assumptions about me because you need me to be a bad guy. Nobody is laughing at me.It's an anonymous imageboard and there are no lols whatsoever
>>41861363Just because you state you feel empathy does not mean you in fact feel empathy. If you did, you would not act the way you act.It is like saying you know what burning flesh feels like as you hold your hand over a hot stove actually burning your flesh.>Nope, I don't have bad relationshipsI guess ill just take your very truthful word for it. /glare
>>41861161What you are doing is pushing everything to extremes.You see me say that I do something considered generally bad and you assume that I am doing the worst imaginable thing you can think of. You don't consider nuance, that we all have darkness.I have my own moral compass, but I don't think having a bad moral compass in itself makes you a bad person. Hurting people willingly does. Not knowing right from wrong is not evil per se. Being cruel is.if someone tells him that he did something bad, he acknowledges and tries to not do it again, he is a good person in my books.
>>41861387Having a bad moral compass is one of the defining features of a bad person.>And who cares of you just did your toe in evil? Its just a little bit of evil right? Nothing wrong with it. Everyone is evil so who cares?This is a way to offload responsibility or accountability for your own actions.
>>41861363>I don't do it to feel better. I actually actively seek reasons to feel bad about things I do.Somehow I'm not filled with confidence.>No, that's not true. You were expressing was against schizophrenics in general, not me.Yes.>Yeah, but you are taking things to extremes. You don't actually think and analyze. You don't even know what kinds of things I do.Thinking is a pretty low bar and by defintion I'm analyzing your posts. I can't possibly know what kinds of things you do so I can only work with the things you actually say.>If you can list all the factors of my narcissism, please do it. Take it in consideration that you need a long time to diagnose. You can't diagnose someone with a few posts.I don't need to formally diagnose you with anything to assert that "I'm the most special boy of all" and "Exploiting others is fine, everyone does it!" are not good things.>Well, I don't care. I just think your behavior is harmful and you are displaying contempt openly at people, using labels to justify your bad behavior, denying your 2hat you are doing... Which is pretty awful.You manifestly care because you're still replying. And you've previously said both "morality is not important to me" and "I think exploiting others is okay" so your opinion on what is awful is not very credible.>No, you are silly. I was actually talking with the lain poster about his own mental issues. I was trying to make him see that he is not as bad as he thinks and getting him to tell me why he thinks he is a psychopath and what are the criteria só I could help him out. What people would call 'empathy'.And I'm not criticizing you for that. But you did in fact say the things I was upset about, and no amount of performative compassion will change that. You can't both be too cool for morality and the most moral person here guys for real honest.
>>41861377Oh. Why was I speaking that way to lain than? Do you think I was just saying things for fun? I was trying to help him and displaying actual empathy, that you cannot recognize yourself.Seeing somebody in mental distress and deciding that I should take action to make them feel better is empathy. It's actual empathy, you realize that, right? Just feeling bad for people and doing nothing is the same as not having it at all.Yes, my relationships that die are not because I am constantly hurting people. It's usually due to lack of interest. You don't need to take my word for it.Literally, nobody thinks I am exploitative. And having certain characteristics don't make them pathological. They have to be very strong. Everybody has these characteristics, but not to the point of ruining lives, which is when it's dangerous.What I was trying to say is that I had some traits that could put me on the list, but they are not bad enough to consider as part of an illness.
>>41861398>>41861377>>41861363>Nope, I don't have bad relationships. I am not seen as a bad man. I see you taking 5 extra dollars from your father when you go shopping exploitation.I don't believe you, and you've done nothing to convince me to believe you.>I am not backpedalling. You are making assumptions about me because you need me to be a bad guy. Nobody is laughing at me.You're literally arguing with three other posters who I hope are laughing at you because at least then they'd be having fun.>It's an anonymous imageboard and there are no lols whatsoeverI think this is pretty amusing. If there's one thing that's funny about narcissists it's the way they cheat, lie, and stretch the truth to prove they'd never cheat, lie, and stretch the truth.
>>41861398No, I don't have a bad moral compass. I just don't consider having one as being a bad person if you see that you are doing something wrong and you try to change when it's pointed out. People like you are the reason people don't try to change. You can't see them past their initial nature that can be changed over time.>>41861400So why do you ignore everything that goes against your belief? You are biased. You want me to be a narcissist. You need it. The reason why you should not even trying to put that label on me is because it's not correct. For the exact reason you are talking about.As I said, that was a joke, but again, you are ignoring everything that does not fit your narrative. Typical.Sure, I am showing performative compassion on an anonymous imageboard where you don't even know who I am.Bro probably didn't even knew who I was at that point either. As I am not making it obvious. What do gain by performing?You don't not see people through neutrality. You suffer from black and white thinking. You should seek a psychiatrist yourself.
>>41861407Nah, I don't care if I am a narc.That's the way I see exploitative behavior. Again, you ignore anything that goes against your narrative.The reason why I am having this discussion is the same reason I have had about other psychiatric illnesses in the past here. It's because people diagnose others without having a full picture. It isn't because of me.
>>41861423The fact you need it pointed out and cant just understand what you are doing is wrong is the red flag.Also, in this very thread we are pointing stuff out to you and it is you pushing back against it.So while you say to take people pointing stuff out and change, you are LIVE showing us you are incapable of such things.
>>41861432I am telling you to point out all 5 factors directly.Quote them analyze them and point them out
>>41861437Why is it 5 factors now?List them yourself as an exercise.
>>41861439Oh... You do not even know how the diagnosis works.You are being ignorant. It's 5 factors to be diagnosed as a narc.That's very irresponsible of you. You should not diagnose mental illnesses loosely. It's a kind of label that when applied makes people stop seeing each other as humans
>>41861423>People like you are the reason people don't try to change. "Other people are the reason I'm not moral! If you guys are going to be mean to me I'm going to keep on being evil! Waaah!">So why do you ignore everything that goes against your belief? You are biased. You want me to be a narcissist. You need it. The reason why you should not even trying to put that label on me is because it's not correct. For the exact reason you are talking about.I'm literally reacting to what you say in real time.>As I said, that was a joke, but again, you are ignoring everything that does not fit your narrative. Typical.If it was a joke it wasn't very funny. But you then doubled down on everything I was criticizing you for, proving me right even though the basis for my original critique was kind of weak.>Sure, I am showing performative compassion on an anonymous imageboard where you don't even know who I am.Narcissists don't have the capacity to back down from a threat to their ego, even on anonymous imageboard. All you have to do to prove me wrong is not reply and move on.>Bro probably didn't even knew who I was at that point either. As I am not making it obvious. What do gain by performing?You think you can gain narcissistic supply. The praise and esteem of others. My unwillingness to give give you that clearly burned you up enough to reply to every single one of my posts. If I'm just a hater all you need to do is ignore me.>You don't not see people through neutrality. You suffer from black and white thinking. You should seek a psychiatrist yourself.You just said judging without evidence is wrong, and that 4chan posts don't constitute evidence. See, you're saying what you think people will praise you for, there's no real opinions in there, just a howling void in place of your soul.
>>41861442I dont conform to your views of diagnosis. I call it as I see it.And if there are 5 factors that you know of. List them then and how you might fall into those categories. It is your place to fix yourself. I just state fact and you can take it or leave it. Diagnosis is for the retard you pay to try and fix your fucked up life.
By lurking and posting on x it helps gangstalkers so you guys gotta stop hanging out here
>>41861447StrawmanNo, you are not. You dismiss anything you don't like with 'why should I believe you'. Why should you believe that I am exploitative if I just said and did not showed any kind of exploitation? Do you see now?It's a kind of humor I developed. I pretend I am an exaggerated version of a narcissist and laugh at it.Bro, I am not trying to prove you wrong anymore.Nobody praises compassion on 4chan. Are you serious? You are doing some serious mental gymnastics to justify yourself.Bro, that's not what I am saying. I am saying that you should not diagnose people. I am not diagnosing you. I think you suffer from black and white thinking and you should go to a doctor. I never said judge, I said diagnose. And black and white thinking is an actual thing you are displaying. That's why I think you should see a doctor and talk to them. It might be part of a bigger issue. On the other hand, Narcs and Schizos are much more complex than seeing black and white thinking. To spot a real narcissist or a schizo you need data from a long time and it needs to be consistent. Black and white thinking is just the way you are communicating.
>>41861475>I just pretend to be a narcissist, for laughs>seethes in another replySure.
>>41861454That's how a diagnosis is done.It's not a fact if you can't list all factors and point them out. It's just your opinion, and a poor opinion based on ego alone.I don't pay for my psychiatric help. My country has free health care. And as I said, I am a diagnosed schizophrenic with bipolarity.
>>41861479It's actually something I do. I was more upset because of the idea of murdering innocent children.
>>41861487>It's actually something I doProbably because you are a narcissist.
>>41861494SureProve it
Don't argue with the glowie that call people schizo.
>>41861500It's very sad that people use actual real medical terms loosely and don't even know what the actual symptoms are or how the disease works.The criteria exists for a reason. Narcissism is a documented mental disorder. So is schizophrenia.Schizophrenia is more than just paranoiaNPD is more than just being mean and and having delusions of grandeur.It's ridiculous
What does a narcissist fear more than anything else?Being exposed as a narcissist.
>>41861475>No, you are not. You dismiss anything you don't like with 'why should I believe you'. Why should you believe that I am exploitative if I just said and did not showed any kind of exploitation? Do you see now?When you claim to be amoral and exploitative and then suddenly pivot to being moral and empathetic, it's not very convincing, sorry. The fact that you seem to say whatever you think will get you the most praise in any given post is what I'm calling out, more than anything I think you actually do.>It's a kind of humor I developed. I pretend I am an exaggerated version of a narcissist and laugh at it.Yeah, bro, don't do that. I used to drop hints I was a serial killer in middle school to seem badass and it didn't fucking work.>Bro, I am not trying to prove you wrong anymore.Good, because you've already proved me right like five times over.>Nobody praises compassion on 4chan. Are you serious? You are doing some serious mental gymnastics to justify yourself.What do you mean? You were the one who tried to come across as amoral at first and then changed your tune when people started dunking on you. My position has remained completely consistent.>Bro, that's not what I am saying. I am saying that you should not diagnose people. I am not diagnosing you. I think you suffer from black and white thinking and you should go to a doctor.You're trying to imply my critique is not valid because I'm mentally ill, which is a weird flex for a guy who admits to being mentally ill. >I never said judge, I said diagnose. And black and white thinking is an actual thing you are displaying.What part of "this guy is clearly a narcissist" requires black and white thinking? You only have one data point so I'm not sure how you're finding a trend in that.>That's why I think you should see a doctor and talk to them. It might be part of a bigger issue.I could have all kinds of issues and my point about you would still be valid. Like I said, this is a weird place to go.
>>41861547Well, if I feared being exposed I would not say that I am special, that I am better than you. That I explota people. That I deceive.It's more about you not actually using the right ways to do so. The same way the 'You are schizophrenic' dude comes here and claims that everyone is schizophrenic.Like >>41861508SaidYou have to actually expose it with facts and evidence. Empty claims are not exposing.And by the way. I myself came to my family in the past and said to them that 'I think I am a narcissist and it's one of the reasons why I am being stalked'. If you were right I would not even say that.Also, grandiose narcissists can actually love being called one. As it is said, they wear it like a badge of honor.
>>41861554>On the other hand, Narcs and Schizos are much more complex than seeing black and white thinking.Yes, that doesn't change the fact that your behavior continues to be 100% consistent with narcissism. >To spot a real narcissist or a schizo you need data from a long time and it needs to be consistent. A professional can formally diagnose NPD and schizophrenia with a checklist and a thirty minute session. But I'm not a professionally, I'm not trying to diagnose you, I'm called your "joke" narcissistic and you have not given me any reason to change my mind in the 10+ posts you've made since.>Black and white thinking is just the way you are communicating.Even if this was true, it wouldn't make me wrong. Again, the one with the power to prove me wrong is you - all you have to do is admit fault or let this go. But you won't. Which proves my point. See you next post, space cowboy.
>>41861554No, I am not trying to imply that your criticism isn't valid. You are displaying black and white thinking.It's obvious, anyone one with understanding can tell.I am just being as honest as possible.Point out where I said that I am amoral. I never said that. I said that I accept people with poor morals and think they can get help.But you don't get that because of your black and white thinking.Another thing, people can be inconsistent due to poor self image, not because they are being dishonest.You are jumping to conclusions over and over again.
>>41861590>I am just being as honest as possibleNo you are not.You are playing victim.
>>41861573I am not trying to prove you wrong about me. This isn't about me. This is about definitions.And a diagnosis and a check list? Sure, but you need information about the person and consistent knowledge of their behavior, because there are situations in where people can present similarities to the mental illness and if not done meticulously you get a misdiagnosisOne example, aspirs used to be diagnosed as narcs all the time. And narcs got aspie diagnosis as well because it has some similar characteristics with internal differences.So am I a narcissist? Okay, now why? List all the factors.
>>41861599Where?I am not victimizing myself. I am fighting the stigma of mental illness and misuse of labels.
>>41861590>No, I am not trying to imply that your criticism isn't valid. You are displaying black and white thinking.Then what are you trying to imply? Conversations with narcissists often come to this point because they, again, have no convictions or opinions strong enough to overcome their need for the esteem of others. Everything for them is a strategy, a way to get what they want from others, and so they have no problem abandoning the central thesis of their entire argument if they think for even a second it will win them esteem.>It's obvious, anyone one with understanding can tell."The wise will know (I'n not full of shit.)">I am just being as honest as possible.Correct, and the person we're all seeing is pretty narcissistic because for you honesty is just another means to an end.>Point out where I said that I am amoral. I never said that. I said that I accept people with poor morals and think they can get help.You admitted to:>Deceitfulness>Reckless disregard for my own safety>I can be exploitative>No, sense of morality isn't that much of a big deal for me.All of these are amoral traits. Accepting amoral or immoral people is at best amoral. Either way, you've been hugely inconsistent which, as I will continue to point out and you will ignore, is consistent with my hypothesis regarding your mindset.>But you don't get that because of your black and white thinking.Dude, I am quoting your exact words back at you. You can't just say "black and white thinking" and somehow change what you yourself posted in this thread less than ten posts ago. This, also, is a classic narc tactic - make people doubt their own perceptions so that you can tell them what they should be thinking instead. I told you over and over again how to convince me, and you still can't do it.>Another thing, people can be inconsistent due to poor self image, not because they are being dishonest.You called yourself deceitful in your own post! Why would anyone trust you after that?
Heyo. Just popping in here to share a link to this thread's companion thread, which has a heap of resources you can use to help yourself better handle with the TI experience. Also some theories on who is doing it, what it is, why it's being done, etc. In lieu of ever finding concrete proof of the technologies used, theories may be the best we ever get, but it goes a LONG way in building useful mental models with which to understand your personal situation, removing the anxiety inducing ambiguity and asymmetry of knowledge between you and the perps. Huge amount of power in that. Also, because I see this happen so often and try to prevent it as much as possible: if you specifically are beginning to think your friends, family, or coworkers are somehow in on it, spying on you, aren't who you thought they are, or even out to get you, I know where you are coming from. They tried the same shit with me. It's every psychoshittery trick in the book being used against you along with the v2k speakers imitating the voices of those people to make it seem like they're like, talking behind your back or scheming to do something, all the while they're endlessly gawping at you that those people hate you or something to that effect. The whole goal is to separate you from your support network. If you haven't burned any bridges yet, please try talking to those people about your concerns, use them as a reality check to re-establish your baseline. Their whole shtick is shifting your baseline perception of reality away from what is real and towards what induces endless paranoia, so you gotta reset that. Just don't mention that this is due to being a TI right away. Opens one too many cans of worms all at once. I've seen what happens when someone takes those warped perceptions to heart. >>41801655
>>41861647I am saying that you display black and white thinking. Not to disregard you, but because you do!No, I have a moral compass. Just because I admit I do bad things it doesn't mean I am amoral. It means I am a human and I have accepted that I have issues that need to be worked on and I came to terms with some bad parts of my personality instead of pitying myself. I try to do the right thing too. And I accept amoral people, yes. Another thing, as I said above. When you put that kind of label on someone everything they do and say becomes 'the narcissist'. It's dehumanizing and sad. You are a good example of that. Nobody should trust anyone on 4chan. Specially since this place is full of glowies
>>41861056This again, people thinking it's supernatural. What ever your beliefs are of religion or supernatural phenomena, I can respect all that, but as far as the TI phenomenon is concerned, this unfortunately couldn't be further from the truth. This narrative gets pushed hard while any and ALL discussion about human made technologies that could cause the exact same effects gets massively suppressed. That should be a huge hint. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QcOnKpyFOh8w7RH_OPcKS7Q8y2ZXPRjujDptjJD1ZUc/edit?usp=sharing
Again, calling me amoral for having bad traits is another form of black and white thinking. You need to learn to spot that. That can lead to difficult relationships, because when you can't look at people in any neutral way you end up painting them 'black'. That works both ways. People can do that in themselves too and literally think that they are evil when they are not, or think they are angels when they are not.
It was the zionists> Read Synagogue of SatanThey funded dark projects post WW2 > Read Robert Duncan's how to tame a demonThat's my friends advice to me. I read both ftmp
>>41861709>You need to learn to spot thatAfter you learn to spot your own narcissistic traits.
>>41861803Everybody has them, but this isn't exclusive to npdThis is present in BPD as well that I know. I am not sure of which ones, but yes. That's one of the traits I said I tried to improve. Whenever I split someone I take a step back and rethink.It's is a narc trait. And that person has some of these traits, but that's not enough for a diagnosis and I don't know how often they act like this. For all I know they could be acting as the 'Dismissive Rude Guy' or this behavior could be exclusive to a place where identity is often lost. Plus, I am not a psychiatrist, just have some interest in the subject.
>>41861881Blah blah blah wall of text.You are still here.
>>41861898Yeah, this is my favorite thread. Why is that a problem? I mean, I am a TI
>>41861922>im special>im a victim >you just dont understand me>people cant just diagnose others, you need a jew doctor for thatYou are like a woman on her period.
>>41861935HmmmThe only thing I said is that I am special and that diagnosis should be made a professional. The others you made up. Let me help you, someone comes here and says 'I have a few spots on my body and I am sick'. Someone comes and says 'You have AIDS' Well, isn't that stupid? This is even more true here than anywhere else, since we don't kown each other and we can't access the real personality of the subject.
You know who was a real TI who was gangstalked?Gary Webb.Committed "suicide" with 2 gunshot wounds to the head too.Have a good one.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb
>>41862009I have seen a guy do that.He shot himself in the wrong place, it didn't hit a bit area of the brain so he did it again in even greater desperation. That doesn't prove gangstalking, it could be an actual failed suicide attempt and a retry.
>>41861983You do have aids.
>>41862079Yeah, I got it from your dad last night after he ponded my arse without a condom.
>>41862124Go get that checked out.
What was your favorite part of the game? For me one of them was when they parodied bleach and gave me a zanpakutou temporarily.It poked fun at my insecurities, and it wore the same clothing as zangetsu.I love this shit desu.They exposed me to extreme shame via hallucinations. I feel almost no shame nowadays. https://youtu.be/iEq1q1D94II?si=NEfrbHLZJBkJIZGm
>>41861922>>41861881>>41861709He's still at it, lol, zero lessons learned. Anyway, that's all for me, I've derailed this thread enough.
>>41862339Who do you think you are teaching lessons to?You are arrogant and you came to this thread displaying disdain for people. These are both traits of the people you despise so much.Please, concede like the tranny that you are.BTW, by the way you talk you don't seem to feel empathy and you are incapable of self reflection too. You can't accept any flaws.As you can see I accept that I am flawed and I speak about it without while trying to bond with people instead of stigmatizing mental illness and acting like I am better because 'I have moral superiority' like you.You are not teaching lessons to anybody, that's your ego speaking. Your ego speaks volume.In before 'projection' and 'well I don't care about what an amoral person says. That's called devaluation. It's another narc trait.Now, go pretend you are teaching lessons somewhere else like a little bitch.
>>41860598Correction. I don't think I have ASPD. I've been diagnosed with it.The biggest fuck you I can deliver to that diagnosis is to try to be a kind person. Seeing that the biggest flaw of that diagnosis as represented in media is that we are very unkind people and that's what's bothering me about it.Same bullshit as a I mentioned before applies to the doctor who diagnosed me. I haven't been told what despicable act I have committed to get the diagnosis. So it stands to reason that it's in the doctor's belief that psychopathy doesn't an evil person make but it simply signifies that I have trouble telling what is evil and what isn't. Had he told me this I wouldn't have believed it but by letting me figure it out myself I learn the importance of morality. To freak out by gangstalking and remote torture is sane. To feel a bit sorry for yourself an carefully assess the situation is insanity.
>>41862435Sorry, I misunderstood you.Here, I believe in you and I think you are cool for trying.I mean, that guy up there is just a case of a person that is unaware of their traits.You don't need to do bad things to be diagnosed. It's a check list of long lasting behavior. If you get in trouble with the law frequently, you manipulate people and etc... These traits can lead to a diagnosis.The voice in my head tells me that I am a psychopath too. What you guys call V2K. But as I said, I don't have an official cluster B disorder and claiming that I do is a confirmation of my special status as a TI.
>>41862497You can be a well functioning member of society stepping over people to get ahead and still be a narcissist.
>>41862497Anyone can get in trouble with the law and anyone can manipulate. The question is how I process it. Am I 'too good' to get in trouble with the law? When I'm manipulating is it simple, primal lying for survival or am I cleverly and masterfully bending the truth? How much does my mind avoid seeing itself as a bad person when I do bad things and how much do I stroke my own dick while doing it?How much does my mind try to dodge inconvenience to reach perfection?
>>41862398>you don't seem to feel empathylmao while saying slurs about minorities and using it negative way
>>41862623Sure, but not diagnosed.Doing that by itself doesn't mean are a narcissist. It just means you do some bad things. Not all bad people are mentally ill.Plus, being a narc doesn't mean you go around kicking ladies and stepping on people. It means you have some traits that are part of an illness, not that you per se are evil. People nowadays think any person they don't like is a narcissist when the percentage of narcissists in society is extremely low.Thinking being morally imperfect makes you straight up evil or amoral is a big red flag. It also means you have poor ego regulation if someone admitting to their faults makes you they are straight up amoral and evil. Because you probably think very highly of yourself.The most annoying narcs aren't the ones that think they are based and stuff. It's the ones that think they are so perfect that seeing someone with imperfections triggers them and makes them demonize the person. People that do this are hard to deal with. You can't trust them because you are stepping on eggs with them.
>>41862666HuhWill you please shut up?Things are not black and white. I am not screaming tranny in the face of a transwoman. I am using it as a filler word in am anonymous imageboard for fun. Racists can feel empathy, homophobes feel empathy and tranphoves feel empathy. Just because they have prejudices doesn't mean they can't display empathy. Black and white thinking at its finest. Can't look at people with a bad trait without dragging them into the mood because you can't understand nuance and human complexity. I gotta go see my uncle now, I will be back later
>>41829802lmfao stop calling that trash peoplethey are not people they are zombiestheyre even lower than animalsthey are literally not real>>41829742imagine seeing this shit and thinking that god isnt a vile child raping rat fuck nigger
>>41862695Diagnosis thisDiagnosis thatAll that matters is how you act. I judge people based on their actions. I dont need some retard giving me some wrong Diagnosis. You act like a dick. You are a dick. You act like a narcissist, you are a narcissist. Your rabid defensiveness to rando anons on the internet tells me all I need to know about you.
>>41862712>Racists can feel empathy, homophobes feel empathy and tranphoves feel empathy.They get gangstalking as default experience. The fact that you haven't developed empathy to them shows you are not capable of such thing.>prejudices You should not be whining about gangstalking then>Black and white thinking at its finest. Can't look at people with a bad trait without dragging them into the mood because you can't understand nuance and human complexity.Hitler was just a HUMAN BROO! Nice projection about black and white thinking at its finest.
>>41862825Except you don't know what defined a narcissist. A NPD is a medical diagnostic, it's not just being a dick.>>41862834No, I am bisexual and I enjoy dick. That doesn't make me gangstalking. You are using prejudice as a shield because you have a hard time understanding nuance. Back when most people were homophic do you think everyone was evil as well? Do you think everyone that has ever hurt you is evil? No! Maybe you were an asshole yourself and you got bullied, maybe they were the assholes, but not everything is super simple. You don't seem to understand that.Tribalism is part of human nature, but you can't accept that people have flaws and can still show a positive side.People react differently to different situations. Here is one example, when women had their empathy tested against men they found out that females tend to feel bad when a cheater gets punished, while men feel pleasure. Which is the opposite of empathy. They think they it is justified, even if it's just a game and the person is having a bad time. Does that mean that they can't display empathy? No, it just means that in a specific situation their empathy did not trigger.I this case I am not in front a of a transwoman crying because I called her a tranny, what I would not do in front of one in the first place.Racism, homophobia and all that shit is part of human nature and the only reason you are not one right now is because you have been influenced by society. Maybe you would be more empathetic than most individuals and realize that what you are doing is wrong, but if you are taught that a black person is not human you will not see them as humans.And who said I am complaining about gangstalking? I like this shit. It's fun. I have talked about it here before. Most of us have terrible experiences, but mine have been great and my life has improved greatly.When I say I like dick I am dead serious.
>>41862825One more thingI do this because I enjoy itPeople know me here for debating mental illness which is an interest of mine. One that I have discussed extensively here with a few people.If you think you know my mind better than a doctor that diagnosed me I think you are just being arrogant and suffering from severe dunning Kruger effect, because you are not an expert. I was analyzed inside a nuthouse for days and then passed through another doctor. Yet you believe your diagnostic is the correct one because you are arrogant.
>>41863124>>41863151Oh man, what a glorious nap that was. I feel better. Wait, aww man, more posts from this fucking guy? Let's try and suck the poison out the wound.>Except you don't know what defined a narcissist. A NPD is a medical diagnostic, it's not just being a dick.If you want to get technical, NPD is a diagnosis , narcissism is a behavior anyone can engage in. Regardless, if people are calling you a dick, the first step is to stop being a dick.>No, I am bisexual and I enjoy dick. That doesn't make me gangstalking. You are using prejudice as a shield because you have a hard time understanding nuance. Back when most people were homophic do you think everyone was evil as well? Do you think everyone that has ever hurt you is evil? No! Maybe you were an asshole yourself and you got bullied, maybe they were the assholes, but not everything is super simple. You don't seem to understand that.Other people being evil is not a good defense for being evil. Next.>Tribalism is part of human nature, but you can't accept that people have flaws and can still show a positive side.It's not just a part of human nature but a part of human nature that millions and millions of people overcome on a daily basis. Can't you please try to be one of them?>People react differently to different situation...I'll trim this right here. It's a meaningless unsourced anecdote meant to justify bad behavior. If my "reaction" to pukes like you is to kick you in the nuts, you will suddenly start caring about morality real fast.>I this case I am not in front a of a transwoman crying because I called her a tranny, what I would not do in front of one in the first place.No, but this doesn't change the fact that it literally added nothing to your point and made look like what you are, a huge dick.
>>41863124>No, I am bisexual and I enjoy dick.You can be bigoted despite being that retard. Funny how you people think you suddenly can't and pull this card when called out what you are. That's why terms exist to describe things.>Back when most people were homophic do you think everyone was evil as well?Different time, fact that you are in modern world still like that is clear sign of lacking empathy. Back then they had tighter grip on the narrative about minorities, which was dehumanization that they barely had the change speak for themselves. When they did things often changed for slightly better for them.>but not everything is super simple. You don't seem to understand that.I understand that very clearly but there is a line when it come to human life. People simple being born into this world and existing as themselves. There will be never justification hating and oppressing others for that reason.>Tribalism is part of human nature, but you can't accept that people have flaws and can still show a positive side.Classic excuse to shift blame what any psycho uses "muh nature". You are a product of you environment, you literally admitted it. With empathy you can overcome your hateful prejudice towards others who are different from you which was groomed into you.>I this case I am not in front a of a transwoman crying because I called her a tranny, what I would not do in front of one in the first place.?Hatred is not part of human nature. Humans are social creatures. All of them have right for their own body and life. You seem to be fully aware how a person can be made into a bigot yet you are defending it. Screams lack of empathy for me. Empathy don't have to be teached for you feel it. All need to be done is shown and for you to insert in their shoes realistically. Only time there would be "teaching" is giving context for example transgender just being opposite of you and you would feel like they do if you would be transitioned against your own volition.
>>41863350>Racism, homophobia and all that shit is part of human nature and the only reason you are not one right now is because you have been influenced by society. Maybe you would be more empathetic than most individuals and realize that what you are doing is wrong, but if you are taught that a black person is not human you will not see them as humans.If someone wants to kill or subjugate millions of people, tolerating that person is not a good idea. "You're bigoted against bigots!" is grade-school level right-wing thinking.>And who said I am complaining about gangstalking? I like this shit. It's fun. I have talked about it here before. Most of us have terrible experiences, but mine have been great and my life has improved greatly.Then get out of this thread, it's in theory a support system for people who are not having a good time. Once again, if you think you're being gang-stalked and you don't have hard evidence, seek medical attention.>People know me here for debating mental illness which is an interest of mine. One that I have discussed extensively here with a few people.We do? You're anonymous, dumbfuck, and you're known right now for being a huge fucking tool.>If you think you know my mind better than a doctor that diagnosed me Misdirection. No one cares about your mind. We're talking about what you yourself posted.>I think you are just being arrogant and suffering from severe dunning Kruger effect, Buzzword attempt to cast doubt on the perception of others. Classic narc move.>I was analyzed inside a nuthouse for days and then passed through another doctor.And somehow you still manage to post absolute garbage.>Yet you believe your diagnostic is the correct one because you are arrogant.No we believe our diagnosis is correct because of what you yourself posted. Scroll up through this whole tedious debate and see that over and over you've been criticized for the things you actually said. If you're going to bother posting again, start with that.
>>41863124You seem very immature, that is what lack of empathy is. And narcissism
>>41863369NoLack of empathy has nothing to do with immaturityEmpathy is the ability to recognize emotions in other people.There are 2 types of empathy, cognitive. The cognitive is completely intelectual, meaning it uses inteligence to understand how someone feels. High functioning psychopaths and narcissists usually have cognitive empathy. Now, emotional empathy is 'feeling other people's feelings'. You look at someone crying and you feel sadness. That's a natural reaction. You don't actually feel what other people are feeling, that's a delusional vision of it. Your brain just interprets what the other person is feeling and you feel it yourself.This is what leads people to help others and fight injustice. It's what leads people to refrain from hurting others.Emotional maturity is another matter. Also, what you think of lack of maturity is real. I am immature. Some people actually think I have autism. Including my Romanian stalker that is obsessed with narcs.
When did you guys realize that you were special?For me it was when girls would fall in love with me even though I am ugly and I was rude and dismissive to them. They still loved me and chased me at school. Even though I was behind 3 years in school they still chased me.I was like, oh, 'why?'. It was very interesting. Oh yeah, I could not keep up with the other kids because I wasn't receiving enough attention because the teachers didn't believe in me.Well, that's when I thought I had super powers at first.I already knew I was special. The stalkers just confirmed it when they befriended me and started killed me King.
lolcow general every post above me contains lul and lol cow material. The users who made these posts are in fact lolcows 4chan lolcows in this thread (above me)>T. gang stalker everyone above me
>>41863715I have tried thatIt's hard to even be laughed at nowadaysThere are so many people to make fun of that people basically just don't care anymore.Also, I am too cool. People can't look at me as a joke. I am too tall, strong and smart. People just can't treat me like a lolcow for this reason. https://youtu.be/VzbEtG6wElA?si=ODrJ8ALoAe_NoNZk
>>41863715I believe most TI are over the idea of strangers laughing at them and are dealing with bigger problems but I could be wrong.
Arm yourself if you haven't already, start organizing with other victims and allies, and protest at fusion centers. You are being tortured by evil individuals and their only purpose is to sabotage your life and make you so unsuccessful and uncomfortable living it to the point where you either kill yourself or lash out and end up dead, in prison, or in a psych ward. Anyone willingly participating in this torture needs to be put on trial but there is a good possibility that this program has also corrupted the legal system.I have evidence proving that someone is using a device to torture me, but no lawyer I have contacted has been able to help. We need a large organized group in order to seek legal help because a lot of civil and human rights organizations won't help if it's just one person. The only way this torture ends is with action because it's not going to suddenly stop one day. This is the type of evil that persists unless something is done about it.
>>41863532>special
>>41864953Are there any message group to join? Like signal, telegram and such
The best part of the job is when one of you fruitcakes turn round and catch my eye but I quickly look elsewhere and appear nonchalantly busy. I can see you in my peripheral, absolutely livid.
>>41865048You are more than welcome to be a homosexual in Pretty Trans Girls /ptg/ thread on /pol/.
I am gonna go see a rap concert.
You hood rats dont know what it's all about
>>41865846what's it all about?
You know... I am unsure if you guys are actually real. You will often talk about how they torture you and about Havana syndrome, but most of you don't actually tell your stories.You just come here and state it 'They bad'. I don't they are. I think they are morally Grey. They do what needs to be done. What they did to me in the past was for my own good and I really deserved it. Plus, now most of that seems like just pranks and annoy me than hurting me.While they can cause pain(they showed me after I claimed they can't) they do not use it on me. They actually helped me more than they hurt me. The good outweighs the bad and I am on their side. Even if it means my demise in the end.I am a loyal soldier to the cause and I love 'em more than my own family. They are what keeps this world together. If you look at statistics themselves you will see that with the growth of the internet violence started to decrease more and more. I believe it's because they were working to stop it. There's no confirmation on this, just speculation.But from my anedoctal experience they do both good and bad. The reasons? I don't know, but it's definitely to just because they like to hurt people. Nobody gets this powerful while causing pain to people.Please, speak on the torture they use on you.https://youtu.be/8OkpRK2_gVs?si=YM06apKImXfj5S2p
A whistle-blower from Bedford Va stopping Illuminati key sacrifice at 2012 configuration.RevelationNow . net "The Next School Massacre Target?" posted on December 18, 2012/Aurora Colorado and Newtown Connecticut and Narrows Virginia and Golden Gate Star Configuration and Lupus Constellation/December 21, 2012 the Sun (fire) will rise in the “Dark Rift” of the Milky Way mirroring the title “The Dark Knight Rises” with the “The Dark Night Rises/Death of Batman Map Maker Scott Getzinger (worked on Truman Show)/Freemasonryand Christopher Nolan/Kabbala curses known as “Pulsa Dinura”Said whistle-blower takes out pedo criminal network in 2020https://targetedindividuals.boards.net/thread/43/truman-show?page=1Above link is designed in a dungeon and dragons approach to conceal the content
>>41866350I always find it interesting that the "evil pedo elite" spends so much time and energy persecuting unattractive male schizophrenics. It's almost like "pedo" is the latest way of saying "always chaotic evil."
I always find it interesting that Reddit can persecute, stalk and kill attractive, female, wild life sanctuary owners with no consequences.
>>41866359Where does he state anything about his appearance?
STFU Simon.
>>41866465I'm not talking about him specifically, I'm pointing out that schizos in general love describing their imagined persecutors as "pedos" even though you'd think pedos wouldn't care much about about them. This goes hand in hand with a similar observation - conspiracy theorists in general are deeply concerned about the welfare of hypothetical children sacrificed by satanic elites but have very little interest in verifiably real children suffering in sweatshops in China or starving as a result of right-wing social policies. See, almost all internet discourse about children is poisoned by the fact that children are more important as a social symbol than they are as actual living breathing human beings.
>>41866468Why?
>>41866468Fuck no, long live Simon!
>>41866141>morally Grey. They do what needs to be done.Complete opposite. Chosen at birth for a concentration camp with plausible deniability. Irrational sadism. How much of a fucking loser you have to be posting in these threads when you are not even TI. Get a life when you actually can. You must be underage
>>41866493>>41866465>>41866468Schizo internet delusions best ignored
Think for the future generations. They probably would never going to get any freedom or privacy. If you're born without it and being "educated" that by having it is the ultimate evil.
>>41866805How do you feel when someone tells you that you are not a TI?Don't you think you should consider that people have different beliefs and opinions on the things happening to them? Why do you think your opinion is any better than my opinion?Where is your history? You didn't tell me your story. I have talked about mine here several time, yet you ignored the most important part of my post.
>>41866493What does any of that has to do with somebody's appearance?
I've seen quite a few people defending the act of GS as some kind of just executioner. But literally, who elected them to such a role? I believe that for a person or organization to hold such a position, they must go through a democratic election, allowing the public to understand the plan, agree or disagree, and present themselves as a strong figure capable of accepting criticism and scrutiny. It’s not about being delusional and refusing input from others while insisting everyone follow your misguided ways.Here’s a simple analogy:Imagine a total of 100 people. One person wants to control the other 99. He executes his plans, but no one is allowed to review or criticize him, and he is blinded to the flaws in his approach. As a result, his plan leads to the demise of all 100 people, including himself.
>>41866953Well, you are just assuming thing.Saving lives is importantPeople can change, and they help. Some people here have said in here that they most likely saved them from killing themselves(they saved me too). I was withering and dying and they guided me. They showed me my flaws. They went deep in my mind.There's another guy that is getting welfare here. Maybe they did this to him so they could get welfare? Have you considered that? They helped me monetarily too. They guided me to ways to make money and I didn't even realize. It's funny, because I got so much money from places that I should not even know about.I mean, do you think one person getting hurt(they hurt me too and I was so angry). But with time I realized that they were making me face my fears using some sort of exposure therapy and hypnosis. I was so confused... I knew they were behind my wellbeing, but at the same time I was so angry.Take it that maybe it's not just one person. Maybe they are many people. Maybe they're a committee that's helping the world from the shadows.If they know things about you that other organizations don't do to respect privacy and they act on it, I think they are doing the right thing.This is my experience, anyway.But maybe they just got my soul when I sold it via email. Who knows.https://youtu.be/DXU9jRrOpEg?si=w2NtFMDvZTo7O2Qb
>>41867066I'm not saying I don't believe you, but why can't it be done openly? It should be something that can be proven, like how a bank transaction is traceable. Again, why hide if all the actions are for the right reasons? If they want to act like the police, they should become one; if they want to act like psychologists, they should become one; if they want to act like counselor, they should become one. Making big claims that prove nothing is not enough.
>>41867066>If they know things about you that other organizations don't do to respect privacy and they act on it, I think they are doing the right thing.It's non-consensual. Why can't you act on your own? If it’s beyond public matters, no one should ever get involved in your personal matters. You don’t owe anyone anything.
>>41867134I can't prove anything, but people would not accept this kind of invasion in their lives. It's against basic human rights.Spying on people like that is against humans rights, but if they are doing these things, I think it's justified.>>41867212Yeah, I do. I owe them my life, my properties and my wellbeing. And I agree with their approach.
>>41867246Well, if that is the case, you do you, I respect your freedom. But you can’t speak for anyone else. As for me, I would never allow myself to be invaded.
>>41866891You posted ragebait. All reads like a larp
>>41867066They are not saving anyone you fucking larping retard. As everyone who is victim of this says so including myself who wants them to fuck off! They are killing me slowly, they are one of my root cause for my misery and won't be able to build a life because of them. Things were gonna look hopeful to me and then they "started it officially" intentionally crushing my hope for normal life forever. The ones say otherwise would be coping and have developed Stockholm syndrome which this cruel program tries to infest into you.
Retarded internet delusionAlright boys ima gona swing by the Russian embassy tomorrow to pick up my bag of Euros for the well deserved internet work todayAfter that ima gonna rent a few whores in Brussels and watch them lick each others cunts while I smoke a Havana boy
>Martin Guerre>Arnaud du Tilhpick one
One of the lessons the program teaches you early on is that even with people around you, you are alone. Especially once you see how easily people are bought and swayed. I have this strong feeling that perps and organizers dont have an effective grasp on control because of their inherent cognitive dissonance. They try to strip things away from you, attachments such as friends, family, money, work, love interests or sexual partners, not realizing that that is exactly how you lose control over an individual. They would have to admit to themselves that they are completely attached, controlled by external things and that would harm their sense of self. In their grand delusion, they make moves that end up being ineffective. Going public never works with this stuff, the individuals that resort to those tactics are often themselves incompetent and want to find a herd that will protect them. Those with a pair of balls and a set of brains see the opportunity for what it really is. Those with a spiteful nature are a nightmare for perps and organizers. TIs are soo quick to try and live a life they arent allowed to live. So quick to fall apart chasing fantasies. The first right move is to acknowledge the synthetic and orchestrated nature of your environment that hinges entirely on broadly shared delusions, stepping outside of that framework and embracing moves and actions grounded entirely in physical, objective reality. This comes with shifting your mindset to the right place. The right place being the understanding that its no use in chasing through hurdles what other people get for free. There is no use in willingly living a shit life. There is no use in building yourself up to be a normal individual. There is no use in humanizing yourself when your survival hinges on how dehumanized and cold your mindset needs to be. They will try to manipulate your worldview through so many angles. One of them relies on making you docile and nonviolent.
>>41867795The way they try and make you docile is by gradually trying to convince you that you are special or a "chosen one" and that you must obey God entirely and to a T. This makes it easier for them to fuck with you, knowing that your go-to is passivity and maybe verbally lashing out. Then they line up the humiliation rituals for the new and naive you who believes in the good in people. This strategy oneshots about 99% of TIs with ease. The other 1% are put on a kill list and they become high priority targets once the Gangstalkers realize control and psychological destruction becomes impossible or so expensive that a bullet is the best option. No touch torture is No touch torture unless you start touching all of them. In fact, get involved in your neighbors lives. Ruin them back, do some slander of your own, catfish those you can, AI generate the downfall of those around you. Have multiple devices, multiple burners, dig in for the long run. Throw their own MO back at them. They might ruin your life but make it the most difficult and uncomfortable experience they will ever go through. If you manage to get compro material on each neighbour, then you have basically won and have a bargaining chip in which you can make every single one of them tuck their tail and run. My advice is, be functionally and discreetly worse than any slander they could ever come up with. No sense in maintaining a positive public image and continuing with good behavior for a society that will trade you for some shekels and some hole. Put them all in a position in which the only way the perps could take you down is if they blow the lid on the whole OP. DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, BE VOCAL ABOUT YOUR SITUATION TO ANYONE. Maintain aloof persona, if they hide, you hide, if they lie, you lie, if they slander, you slander. If they try and ruin your life, you do the same, if they try to humiliate you, humiliate them back without them knowing. Act with the notion that your life is over.
>>41867837Keep a controlled social circle, have two or three people around you that you can easily feed false intel. Once they become aware od your awareness of the game, the dynamic IMMEDIATELY changes as people scatter from your life. You are cut off by the fake friends, groupchats go quiet immediately. Its like your life shifts overnight and they realize its pointless to have an entire group of people including the TI put on a scripted performance. Then they up the level of surveillance, the charades die down and they ho back to quiet and passive surveillance. If they see that no scripted friendship or relationship will ever work, they stop with that and focus entirely on finding different ways to fuck with you. Maintain false personas, have one for each person you meet, it works incredibly well. Let lies and slander fly, dont fight for anyones approval. If the people around you were competent enough or useful enough to counter anything in the program, they themselves would be targets and not pawns.
Best part about the humiliation ritual part is knowing that your interaction was all a scripted play with no real intent behind it. The shit that they try and make you swallow is synthetic and hollow while the humiliation that every perp went through in their life was REAL AND AUTHENTIC. Every breakup, every rejection in your life, was driven by lies and not by the real you. This realization restores your sense of self worth. While in the lives of perpetrators, everything was real and personal. Every rejection and every breakup honest and with authenticity. A true rejection of an authentic individual. That cuts deep and permanently lowers a part of yourself.Thats the key difference. Knowledge of the scripted nature makes it all entirely impersonal.
You also have to understand the psychological motivation behind your stalkers and fake associates: Its not just material gain, its envy and jealousy. At your importance and your role. They are extra motivated to try and humiliate you and put you down because they themselves have such low self worth that its unbelievable how they even look at themselves in the mirror. All they get in return is the occasional shekels and a slut/man that is deemed to have a role in the TIs life. The second you cut people off, they become useless to the program entirely. Be invested in everyones life and create false attachments, this along with the profound circulation of lies and slander makes the truth hard to find. This includes your true personality and motives. Dont even make a move when they are in the process of making mistakes. Just enjoy the ride :)
Go long enough putting up amazing resistance and they will try to lure you back among people hoping you would let people back into your life or create attachments. Do not even fall for it, it just means they have run out of options. They tried that on me when I was 18, a year later I figured out what was going on. Dont even bother playing in their domain, if you try and integrate into society youll just be set back by lies and slander. Whether you like it or not, riding this out alone and isolated is your best option. Actively being a menace is your second best strategy. Try to transition out of working a job as fast as you can, build multiple sources of income. Move frequently, change your contacts frequently, change your devices frequently, keep people out of your life and starve the program. Try to make things as mundane as possible. Make your routine almost robotic to the point where its boring to even watch. Make the world around you have a parasocial relationship with you. Be entirely selfish with your time and energy. Start learning tradecraft and equip yourself with vast amounts of knowledge, dont let anyone get a hint of what you are capable of. If you want to escape the charade, go to a warzone or some other part of the world in which there is too much going on for anyone to have the time and energy to become a participant. Do some humanitarian work. Know that you are born alone, live alone and die alone. DMT helps with making you not care for people or seeing them as anything worth having, that coupled with an antisocial life makes it incredibly easy to not have anyone in your life. I remember thriving all alone and now I want that version of me back
>>41867795O myYou make the delusion they have seem realI wonder if I got any gangbang stalkers following me on Twitch lately
We are going to end this defamation and torture program once and for all and it's going to happen soon. Just be patient.
>>41870465Let me guess. By creating a defamation and torture program, defaming and torturing the defamation torturers.
>>41870480The solution is to just do what the general says , his wish is your command now go to war
>>41870516Ahahaha that's Mr Bauer Today's media reports on far right gangstalkers in their Dutch little armyOne of them can decimate their whole army using just one cartridge They got a real nobody a real Noname057 driving them insane and he is a general but they don't know which general Fucking dude wears too much camo even in their own home
>>41870577It must be the Nobody General
>>41870582Doesn't look like no nobody to me what is he wearing? Urban camouflage?Noname057 is just a app group for cat memes btw they had it all wrong because their worldview is upside down and twisted
>>41870465Soooon
>>41870636Just pray to the alien bro
>>41870577We got our own gangstalkers here in Latvian governmentPicrel
Latvia’s armed forces and border authorities have released evidence pointing to direct involvement by Belarusian security services in facilitating illegal migration across Latvia’s state border, according to an official statement issued by the Latvian Ministry of Defence on January 14.The materials detail what Latvian officials describe as coordinated actions by Belarusian state structures, including the transportation of migrants using Belarusian military vehicles and the participation of officials in planning and organizing illegal border crossings FOR GANGSTALKERS
>>41852587>https://archive.org/details/The-Spark-Stephen-ShellenbergerI've never heard of this. I guess the description is right, lol. Hidden indeed. Thanks for sharing, will watch later.
>>41852020This is 1:1 the narrative they try to push. I'm sorry to see that you have bought into it. It is not your neighbors, it is not your friends, it is not the red or blue or bumblefuck yellow car that just drove by. They want you confrontational and hostile with those nearest to you, either to get you committed or incarcerated, or to self isolate, which is the #1 first thing they try to get you to do. As for how this is done, pretty sure it is a mesh network of some kind *that does not need to be local*. It may not have been in the past, but ever since AI went mainstream, there has been no need for local devices.
>>41865048So which university are you going to, psych major? I hope you're having fun with this lol. Do you really think actual gangstalkers - the ones related to the TI thing being vanishingly rare these days - would go on and chat about it here?
>>41866141I figure most of us just don't want to be identified if they share too much. I feel the same, but have compiled a bunch of stuff from my experiences that could help other TI's that are vague enough to avoid that outcomehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1r__enhLkc77L-vO5jIxOSF_jlDwrqpX8iRc8-GZU670/edit?usp=sharingAs well as this thread, >>41801655I encourage sharing each TI's own experiences as much as possible, but like you said, so few do. Unfortunate.
One of the more audacious moves they will try to pull on the TIs, in terms of manipulation and gaslighting, is mass events where they get entire communities in on the joke, sort of like a teambuilding exercise around making the TI into the whole villages fool. This includes fake news articles, entire communities roleplaying etc. Think black swan events (such as covid) where the goal is to entirely gaslight the TI into believing that something is occuring when its all a charade designed around making the TI look like an idiot. It only works if the TI takes it seriously and doesnt exploit the situation for his/her own amusement. The narrative varies but they will try to pull the Truman show level stunts at leas once or twice, depending on the opportunity. The first phase is always digital via information creeping into your online echo chamber, takes months to prepare, a huge budget is always involved. The specific roleplay they chose for me was a scamdemic. Realize that nothing you see through the black mirror can ever be easily verified. Trust only what you have witnessed and confirmed IRL with your own eyes and mind. Ive been aware for about 6 years now, it clicked just as corona was being announced that everything around me was a scripted play. I dug into a false persona to quietly gather information, doing things I would never ever do because the implications of my situation were extreme.
>>41871288Scamdemic, fake Russia threat , fake Chyna threatNow turns our Chyyyna is just 400 million people and it was lies all alongBut gangstalking is an internet delusion
>>41870977>It is not your neighbors, it is not your friendsLiterally have proof that its them. They even used devices like power tripping mod for me to see them. So how i would perceive them which was cringe. And they got confronted about it. I was not stringed into a lie that time, also they are just local retards hired to do these crimes by whoever is behind it.
>>41871288>Think black swan events (such as covid) where the goal is to entirely gaslight the TI into believing that something is occuring when its all a charade designed around making the TI look like an idiotYou sound like a fed telling lies to make us look crazy
This isn't the same or maybe it was? >3am during big snowstorm >I am awake for obvious reasons >Two cop cars pull up on the road blocking both lanes >I am honestly nosy so I crack the window the listen in to the conversation >some mundane 'i'll look up there' then nothing so I close the window>a few minutes later I start hearing their conversations, faintly as if it were on a tv below me >look out to see they are not outside but are both in their own cars>sound like radio comm between them>some kid ran out during the storm but was recovered >but they stay there blocking the road talking between each other>when I open the window i can not hear them, only the wind>I got down to the floor and it was very clear My neighbor has old tvs down there and a huge sound system, this has never happened before you think it was on purpose or some sort of interference from the storm?
>>41870977The whole spooky tech and spiritual narratives are just covers for the fact that dumb locals are being hired to make you think a paper tiger is a real one. Yes its your friends and family since its usually the easiest or most logical step. Everyone can be bought. My brother got a gf assigned since he is an incel loser who is a total shut-in, my father gets cash and people to talk to since he is alone. My "friends" were obvious from the start, the second they started walking in and being introduced i could tell that their personas were fake and tailored to have just specific matching interests. But now after fucking years of making sure im not crazy, I finally get a chance to act and be deviant with a mountain of motivation. Here I was thinking my life was just going to be a boring drag of 9 to 5, hobbies and loneliness. This comes as a better alternative that i honestly welcome
>>41871835Its not feds. My gangstalkers are afraid of real feds. Its a real black budget program with ties to transnational capital and big corporations.
>>41861056Lol, the only reason prayer would ever work in this case is if your perp wants to turn you into a Christian. It has nothing to do with demons or the supernatural. All of it is done by humans with advanced tech and stupid amounts of money. >>41873236They hire people and use tech at the same time.
>>41873330They have people everywhere and yeah i don't think that they are feds either. I was referring to what fed/government do when they wanna hide the truth by poisoning the well with over the top shit. It was also in their gangstalker mein kampf same tactic. It's so cringe what cowards they are by the way doing overkill about everything. No one is gonna ever believe us anyway and all who know won't care or wanna. There is more perps in this world than TI
>>41873441>There is more perps in this world than TIIMO there are more weaklings than strong people. Its easy to be weak and evil, hard to be strong and righteous, especially when circumstances push down on you. Still, there are many here who are willing to confront this mess, and because of people like that we will always have hope.