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> Kundalini
https://archive.org/details/BiologyOfKundalini_201903/page/n28/mode/1up
https://www.baytallaah.com/bookspdf/jonn%20mumford%20-%20chakra%20&%20kundalini%20workbook%20%5Bocr%5D.pdf
https://maypoleofwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/ajit-mookerjee-kundalini-the-arousal-of-the-inner-energy.pdf
https://ia801902.us.archive.org/2/items/KundaliniEnergyOfTheDepthsLilianSilburn/Kundalini%20Energy%20of%20the%20Depths%20-%20Lilian%20Silburn.pdf
https://www.scribd.com/document/848500622/Kundalini-Psychosis-or-Transcendence-text
https://annas-archive.li/md5/3a809f867202649b9e1a7f7e15a37043
>I don't want to read some scitzo bs
Here is an academic reference https://www.theosophy.world/sites/default/files/ebooks/Goswami/Laya-Yoga%20by%20Shyam%20Sundar%20Goswami_0.pdf
>I'm Christian bro, this got to be Satanic or something
Nw https://www.sheshnaag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/kundalini_and_christianity.pdf

>Vril/other
https://libraryofagartha.com/Ancient%20History/Hyperborea%20and%20Atlantis/VRIL%20Compendium%20Vol%202%20VRIL%20Telegraphy-%20(%20PDFDrive%20).pdf
https://archive.org/details/vril-compendium-vol-1-vril-white-ray-conductors/page/n201/mode/2up
https://annas-archive.li/md5/76414b6b4ac905bcd11ec31fd07f60ea

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I would post more but it took me like 3 hours to convert a few files (not me talking)

,rise up (goodbye anon)

(I decided that i will continue on this general as this is an extremely beneficial/interesting topic and seeing how op now left i thought i should continue it)
(also im not as knowledgeable as op so if you ask me questions i probably wont have a response)

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Disregard shills
Ascend

>>42079839
Bro next time let me post the next one , I was planning to add extra sources and organise it on difficulty,

I will still post the ones I was planning to add on here, I will just do it later

>>42079870
for kun
https://www.rishikulyogshalarishikesh.com/ebooks/kundalini-tantra.pdf
https://www.scribd.com/document/240175515/Kundalini-and-the-Chakras-A-Practical-Manual
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Phil%20Hine%20-%20Kundalini%20-%20A%20Personal%20Approach.pdf

for other
https://files.catbox.moe/x9vk8l.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/aujn3g.pdf

i will post the ones i was planning to add to the qigong section as well, i will sleep first

>>42079870
Sure, no problem, I waited til it got to 300 and figured no one was doing it. Please post what you were planning to, and post next OP before we hit 300 or I’ll beat you to it again and just repaste :-)

As I posted in the last thread:

Either work out of Satanta Gamana’s Kundalini and Krya Yoga Exposed books or read Secret of the Golden Flower with J.J. Semple’s explanations of “turning the light around” and the “backwards flow method”. Those are truly the fastest methods which will not mess you up. Semen retention will get you there so much faster as it is the fuel for subtle body to awaken kundalini.

AVOID any posts that mention exercises involving guiding the kundalini or visualizing it or combining it with other energies. Following steps like those is a spell on the mental plane and can invite demons in when they are made up exercises by people with bad intentions. I am sealing this and all future cultivation threads from energetic attacks in that manner so even if they post you their energies cannot harm you. If you truly want it I can send energy transmissions as much as your and my karmas will allow. From there the rest is up to you. You CAN achieve it in one lifetime if you practice in earnest.

Get either of those books and practice out of them. I also mentioned the Third Eye book by Samuel Sagan. Those are all legit.

>>42079839
>>What is this energy you speak of?
>star-fire, soul, ka, ichor, inua, sila, manetuwak, oloddumare, qi, Tao, ki, aether, orgone, archeus, etheric energy, vital life-essence,prana, chi, mana, vital energy, Vril, life force and quintessence.
OP. I applaud intent but please do investigate the stuff you want to make a thread about before you do. Not only these are _not_ various terms for the same thing nor interchangeable, some of this stuff is not any "energy" at all, like Tao. Some of this is the same thing - chi and qi are different spellings of the same motive force. Vril is kinda shit based on a book that was all but proven to be a work of fiction, but new age took it for a spin.
I worry a bit about it if you mix things up like this.

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)))Viral Christ Consciousness(((

>>42080201
Not OP, but once I've experienced, Yang / Shen / Shiva a kind of kundalini force that is born from the left hand and exist only in the upper body, and I'm not gonna lie it was pleasant but that energy will dissipate after weeks if not used through Qigong or Neigong.

>>42079807
>>42079676
You are both wrong. this is Ashwini Mudra. Also known as Horse Seal. this is a posture that reflects the bowel movements of a horse. This also exercises the first gate of the Chakra's. the gate of fear. this is the root chakra that the first one. it actually reverses homosexual practices. being that the act looses the rectal band and the individual loses control of their bowels. this also does apply to women as well. everyone has an asshole. I am not going to sugar coat it, if you have a loose asshole. then you cannot travel up to the higher chakras. you got to protect your gate. you got to protect your chakra. what you can also do during Ashwini Mudra is prayer to Lord Ganesh. He is the remover of obstacles. as well as being the one that governs the root chakra. his prayer for protection and releasing fear of the root chakra, is Om Gam Ganapataye Namah.
The goal with Chakra's is to live in your higher chakras. so if you are dealing with issues of your first chakra. then you cannot move up to your second chakra. which is the one that is most useful for kundalini yoga.

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>>42079839
>THAT'S ALOTTA DAO

just cultivated

>>42081111
Quads of based

>>42079839
>in order to cultivate energy you now lack you need to spend hours every day training for a decade which is just a beginner stage
>oh and if your diet and sleep is shit and you have stress in life your progress will be even slower
How does anyone progress at all? I just don't have the energy for it because of depression.

>>42081793
Don’t be a lazy bastard, almost all self help practices require extensive periods of time to see progress.

Gym: the most similar- you need to go gym regularly and consecutively, you need to change sets and practices depending in yourself, you need to mange your diet, you need to make sure your track your lifestyle, etc.

> I just don't have the energy for it because of depression.
Then cultivate the energy, do some qigong mediative breathing you will find results pretty quick

>>42080816
Sure, some "energies" (more often it's qualities more so than energies but let's no split the hair) exist under different names in different traditions, but all that bunch OP mentioned is not interchangeable, and again, some of it is completely different stuff. In fact, sometimes practicing two different traditions handling such stuff, with different cosmology and whatnot can mess you up royally. And we're not talking "headache and ominous feeling", we're talking literal internal organs shutdowns and threat to one's own life.

I understand if OP would just want a thread talking about all forms of qualities used in all practices of energy work but implying it's all the same shit can mislead people into trouble.

>>42080816
Dunno about other traditions but in eastern Chinese arts, shen isn't "born in the left hand" and is not kundalini force naturally travelling up your spine as per kundalini yoga practices but one residing in area of your head, the seat of the spirit, which shen is to represent at the same time being expression and conduit of your will and attention, a quality working wherever you'll direct them.
Don't mix stuff up like OP did, it will create issues.

>>42081793
>How does anyone progress at all? I just don't have the energy for it because of depression.
Most don't. That's why even in circles of people interested in such things, you only hear of someone achieving something sporadically and usually it's at best some unreliable, minor thing and usually - outright bullshit.
If climbing the heights of spiritual and energetic development would be an easy and common thing, we'd live in a xianxia novel.

kim
yuck
biyuck
good luck

>>42079839
taiwan #1 china #3 >>42081111

>>42082322
>And we're not talking "headache and ominous feeling", we're talking literal internal organs shutdowns and threat to one's own life.
most of these effects come from either purely material causes and genetics. A small percentage comes from spiritual forces who can subtly cause vasoconstriction or nerve pulses in the same way that a nightmare can spook you while asleep. These subtle influences can create mysterious and compounding health issues if you cannot train having a thick skin and a degree of indifference.

>>42081793
you need to get to the gym and exercise
making good advancements spiritually, you need to have some decent level of health
and as far as meditation goes, find 5-10 minutes 3-4x a day and then get as long of a session as you can before bed

Why do you guys idolize people that take tai chi which is suppose to help exercise develop focus and breathwork for the body and prepare it for meditation and pretend like its a secret fighting style?
You know using Tai Chi for self defense is not effective self defense.
its almost like its suppose to serve some other purposes.............
Like if you want to learn a MMA, BJJ, Kickboxing, Wrestling, ect.
To me I wouldn't want this kind of a teacher. because I see through it. its stupid. like if you want to improve your meditations, do tai chi. if you want to learn how to throw fists. something else. I probably wouldn't take their advice on any meditations anyways either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3KSz1A7WO4

>>42082360
>you only hear of someone achieving something sporadically and usually it's at best unreliable
reliable only comes when the conditions are that well arranged
one cannot just make meditative happenings arise, one may only arrange the conditions
that is why a rote approach that trains diligently is a crucial component
then again if one's method or focus us subpar, forget about anything substantial taking place
but if diligently applied, the spark will come
continued diligence will see it return more often
until it comes every day
I can tell the thread this for a fact because these are my direct experiences

>>42082713
this is a dumb video where the kid overwhelms a taiji guy that wasnt going to use a technique that would cause serious harm
(watching it, one can question just how capable of a martial artist the taiji guy is to begin with, that kid should have been flying in the air or on his ass within the first 3 touches...but like the kid said, he didnt even use any real technique and just bum rushed the taiji guy.)
the good taiji guys I know dont just know taiji and they will fuck practically anyone up, its impossible to get them off their root and once you close, they do not hesitate

>>42082717
And your direct experiences are what?
Tell me of your directed energy powers.

>>42082713
I mean, when they were teaching me taiji, they would explain how to harm an opponent with literally every maneuver that exists in the form, on purpose
if one's taiji teachers are not doing this then they're not really teaching anything resembling complete taiji
at least not proper chen
reminder that the yang form is basically chen minus all the difficult maneuvers, it was created because an emperor wanted to practice it and couldnt keep up with the original form

>>42079839
>hates the Shaolin
Why?
Shaolins are chill, just like him.

>>42082758
I've been teaching yall how to manifest the spiritual light on a regular basis for a while now
that's the most important thing, as it is the beginning stages of the enlightenment process
it is very much a matter of conditioning
I mostly dont bother to express energythings these days, as that comes with a cost (at least until you reach some significantly later stages in the process)
once I had confirmation from a handful of people that were cultivated enough to tell there was something to me expressing some energy, I was satisfied with this and mostly did not bother afterward
intent is a big part of this, so mostly I give subtle heal commands here and there where opportunity presents itself these days, doing these things too often is dumb and a detriment to the practitioner

>>42082798
shaolin only exists in a meme version after the cultural revolution
og shaolin is long gone and isnt coming back

Why can’t any of you agree on a single thing on this topic?

>>42082831
because the topic is so broad
there isnt good differentiation between practices
it should really begin with foundational matters before proceeding to more potent things that require the foundational aspects to be relatively completed
I was like op when I first discovered all this stuff over 25 years ago, too
yipee, kid in a candy store
except I spent 3 years on the foundational stuff first, and most everything I'm teaching yous here now is from that beginning
anyone that skips this important part is putting a glass ceiling on their progress

>>42082739
>>42082774
I'm just saying i don't buy the methodology.
you sit down to meditate, your body hurts, you work on that. how do you work on that? you do exercises. like Yoga, or Tai Chi, or Qigong.
it just doesn't make sense because the ends don't justify the means to take something that is not a martial art for self defense and try to make it into that when in reality the exercises are for another purpose
its stupid. how are you fooled by this?

Can I use energy cultivation to bring back my foreskin?

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The Tao that can be read is not the Tao.
The Tao that can be spoken is not the Tao.
The Tao that can be imitated is not the Tao.

The Tao is you, the Tao is me. Only you can be you, only I can be me. Be you, not a meme.

>>42082831
>cultivation thread
>its just some retard haphazardly mixing 50 systems
lmao
I expected better from /x/

>>42082861
>to take something that is not a martial art for self defense and try to make it into that
sorry my guy you are simply ignorant of the history here
>you sit down to meditate, your body hurts, you work on that. how do you work on that? you do exercises. like Yoga, or Tai Chi, or Qigong
what are you even trying to say here? it doesnt even really relate to the taiji question
body maintenance is a requirement for meditative progress

>>42082861
most anything you look up on taiji's history states
>originally a rigorous combat art

>>42082514
No. Not what I am talking about. It's not just genetics and purely material causes, once you go far enough in certain traditions, like neidan, you're literally messing with the flow of vital energy and function of your internal organs. Practicing wrong, and/or multiple different practices from different traditions that aren't compatible may fuck you up royally.
I recall good comparison of that to functioning of electric board/circuit. At the very beginning you only adjust current etc slightly, in miniscule way so your device will handle it okay, but once you go far enough to really plug it in, you don't just connect the power willy-nilly to random parts of the board or you risk frying it.

>>42082966
Not just cultivation, energy work in general and it seems so anons do warn others against mixing stuff up so it's not that bad.

>>42082713
Taichiquan has a funny history. In its beginning it was a fighting style, seemingly mild and soft, but actually quite brutal, built around damaging important organs and disabling limbs, VERY different from the stuff that it is today, which indeed became an exercise set for old people.
It's to be expected, it's already hard to make a martial art be practical without seriously using it in combat scenario. With stuff like taichi it was double as bad because even sparring didn't cover it since you had to seriously practice mauling the opponent (and in the past, I guess a minor noble training such could simply get himself some peasants to kill) so the whole thing is less than a shadow of its former self and some people mix up its outdated use with the modern thing.

>>42083201
>It's not just genetics and purely material causes, once you go far enough in certain traditions, like neidan, you're literally messing with the flow of vital energy and function of your internal organs. Practicing wrong, and/or multiple different practices from different traditions that aren't compatible may fuck you up royally.
this is correct, thick skin isnt going to prevent things like magically arising turbo cancer
people that protest at the mention of these things are inexperienced on these matters

>>42083232
>but actually quite brutal, built around damaging important organs and disabling limbs
this is a very important point that people often miss
there are some key taiji fundamentals that enhance MMA very well
but taiji is not a MMA where you have a host of maneuvers that are outlawed
some shit when seriously applied quite literally maims or kills, which isnt sport MMA compatible
the taiji guy in that video with the MMA kid should have engaged within the first 2-3 fists by the MMA guy but it probably would have resulted in broken bones...hesitate for too long and there you are getting your ass beaten in a bad spot

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>>42082239
Found this guy on YouTube, Steve Gray, Zhan Zhuang. I like his videos. https://youtube.com/watch?v=5W9cEfZi4XU

Damo Mitchell had an old video available publicly on “building the bucket” (lower Dan tian) which is now gone. I’ve read the better part of three books in the last few days and come across tons of comments to the effect of: “how do I actually build the lower dan tian? I have been trying for years”
If anyone has legitimate resources to point the way toward an answer, I would appreciate it. Considering the Nathan Brine coursework, but it is a little expensive for me to jump into immediately without first doing my diligence with freely available material. Though I am considering it strongly. Have much work to do with foundation of stillness on top of that.

Hope yall are well.

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>>42082943
Meowmin

>>42083948
steve was a good guy, rip
>If anyone has legitimate resources to point the way toward an answer, I would appreciate it.
dont forget that ohm's law applies
reduce r and A autorises
this is why master the breath, increase efficiency, reduce the arising neurological potentials from sense processing, habituate very thoroughly
as you know the chi flows where the yi goes
so keep your awareness focused there at the dantien
this + mastering breathwork & stillness are the easy missing keys that many often underappreciate
its good to see another buddy of mine make huge gains, doubly so because he told me he should have put more work into this fundamental aspect when he began and its become a larger focus recently, commensurate with those gains.

>>42083966
its a decent slice, namaste fren

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QIgong yt
https://www.youtube.com/@CraigMallett/videos
>https://www.youtube.com/@StandStillBeFit/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2RAEnWreoE - Shaolin Qigong 15 Minute Daily Routine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUB-i92b6tY - Daily Standing Meditation (Zhan Zhuang Qigong) Intro and Instructions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svydHSWOmb4 - Building And Balancing Your Qi With Standing Practices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX6ANrQcQww - Daily Practice 2 - Pranayama, Chi, LIFE FORCE ENERGY Exercise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi9V2FQC68I - falun dafa | falun gong | complete 1 hour exercise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgw42wTo6j0 - Santi, Standing Qigong and Hsingi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSLdcgsuE8M - Ep171: Taoist Master - Bruce Frantzis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utOFpj33TGQ - Falun Dafa English Version

https://www.youtube.com/@HaiYangChannel/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akg3cLzJ3ik

>>42082966
Wtf do you want op to do,
this is a general about cultivation as a whole,
if he wanted to he could of done something like /qgg/ qigong general or /kg/ kundalini general
but he chose to do the subject as a whole

seriously you're a retard

>>42080825
>I am not going to sugar coat it, if you have a loose asshole. then you cannot travel up to the higher chakras
any reason for this,

(fyi im not a faggot im just curious)

>>42084188
if your floor is compromised then it will not be able to handle the energy
the one who taught me k-not-k cautioned against this specifically
overdo it bad enough and the prostate will hemorrhage and begin to orgasm uncontrollably
until you begin to cum blood
eventually at some point it gives you a heart attack

>>42084213
Based, this is how I will go out.

>>42084240
funny, but it wont be accompanied by arousal or anything resembling what you would consider a normal orgasm and certainly not pleasurable

>>42084272
so would you recommend me to do Kegels to tighten it.

also what is some stuff a beginner should do in the start of his Kundalini journey?

>>42082823
>I've been teaching yall how to manifest the spiritual light on a regular basis for a while now
Anons who claim to teach stuff really need some sort of pastebin or whatnot to link folks to. For example, I missed that spiritual light and want to know not merely how to manifest it but what it is and how it impacts one's development.

>>42084292
if you are a coomer then the #1 thing you need to do is stop that shit, you are wasting your resources like mad
if you dont want to stop being a coomer then there's nothing that's going to help you aside from hopefully your next lifetime you dont get exposed to porn at a young age and deeply integrate this harmful deviation
kegels arent necessary because you should be including the pelvic floor, anal sphincter, and the muscles that stop the flow of piss in your breathing
this was the old "embarrassing secret" of cultivation
also dont aspire to kundalini right off the bat
learn stillness and master anapanasati before going and checking out all the other practices that are gonna require mastery of it in order to be maximally effective

What's that energy when you think of something you want to do however your body is strongly against it however if you do it you meet friends, acquaintances or accomplish something. Example: I wanted going to gas station but the energy was pulling me back home and was kind of blocking me to go there so I pushed through and met there old friend who I have not seen for months. Or for example I wanted tidy around my business but again the energy was strongly against it as if block and when I pushed through my uncle stop by and helped me again I haven't seen him for long time.

What's this all about

>>42084322
>if you are a coomer then the #1 thing you need to do is stop that shit, you are wasting your resources like mad
>if you dont want to stop being a coomer then there's nothing that's going to help you aside from hopefully your next lifetime you dont get exposed to porn at a young age and deeply integrate this harmful deviation

dw i have decided yesterday that i will become a brahmacharya today, i will try my best (is there any facts about semen retention which are interesting i would like to know, thanks in advance)

>you should be including the pelvic floor, anal sphincter, and the muscles that stop the flow of piss in your breathing
can you expand on this please as im not sure what you mean

>learn stillness and master anapanasati before going and checking out all the other practices that are gonna require mastery of it in order to be maximally effective
alright i will do

>>42084316
the spiritual light's manifestation is literally a prerequisite to achieving enlightenment
from the things I've read, it would be easy to conflate this arising of the spiritual light with akshual enlightenment
but having had the experiences myself and understanding what's required to make it manifest, I can promptly tell everyone no this is absolutely not enlightenment, just the precursors thereof.
in retrospect I didnt need to look elsewhere, for if this is carried forth far enough then it becomes a sort of mahamudra practice
>what it is
a signpost that comes with massive efficiencies
time does not progress with the light is manifest,
it is like a wonderful sparkly glowy energy bath that your body winds up craving towards the end of each day
achieving this also has a side effect of making short sessions highly restorative also
you've got to be very diligent to make it manifest every day, though
but be diligent and it comes like clockwork, you just have to learn to catch its arising and keep it manifested,
for even little perturbations in the midbrain will consume the source fuel that the light depends upon for its arising and it will be gone in the snap of a finger
this is why any thought or mental activity is incompatible with this process
this is very important
the thinking mind consumes that which must build in order for the light to arise
these things were surprising af to me when they began to happen, I hadnt read of it and it arose naturally out of refinement of breath & awareness
almost leaped from my seat and yelled, the first time
its not going to manifest when you're still tuning the breath though
you have to reach the point where its just a game of keeping the awareness fixed

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>>42084121
(You)

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>>42084161
Thanks, forgot to link to the previous thread in the Op I hastily copied from the last thread: >>42024361

anyone can copy paste past resources like this poster here? Will reply with most handsome mallards.

>>42084341
>(is there any facts about semen retention which are interesting i would like to know, thanks in advance)
as I taught /srg/, there are efferent nerves attached to the testes and sex organs
this necessarily means that lustful thoughts, images, sounds, all become neurological commands to produce sex fluids
fluids which are made from the cream of the crop of your body's resources
the base materials also which form the sinews, skin, hair (with the prevalence of porn, is it any wonder its a common hair style to shave ya head these days)
it is literally your healing factor
but this also necessarily means that the man with a clean mind will never have blue balls
redirect those thoughts immediately into something constructive, it doesnt matter what so long as its constructive
>can you expand on this please as im not sure what you mean
you're aware you can contract the anal sphincter and stop the flow of piss with certain muscles, right?
these are the components of inhale: diaphragm contracts, perineum and abdomen relax
exhale: modulate the timing so that the gentle contraction of the perineum, anus, pissmuscles proceeds smoothly for the entire exhale
roll inhales and exhales seamlessly into one another
do not use the airways to move the air in them, let the guts move the air, the airways always remain passive
it is important to treat the perineum gently - lift, not clench
its written you can give yourself hemorrhoids from clenching in this way
look at the way a bee breathes
you want to breathe in such a manner so as to eliminate all turbulence from the airflow, then there's no stimulation of the olfactory nerve
when you cant detect your breathing, you're well on your way to the great stillness

>>42084341
>any facts about semen retention which are interesting i would like to know
also, my teachers have said just be normal
this means dont be neurotic about it
this means dont overdo it and abuse yourself
it doesnt mean celibacy is a strict hard and fast requirement
this is more important than going 500 days "nofap"
if the matter isnt solved at the mind level, it will never be mastered at the physical level

Just a bunch of nerds arguing over imaginary shit.

>>42079839
>star-fire, soul, ka, ichor, inua, sila, manetuwak, oloddumare, qi, Tao, ki, aether, orgone, archeus, etheric energy, vital life-essence,prana, chi, mana, vital energy, Vril, life force and quintessence
You mixed up different things here. If you pretend the truth to be what you want it to be because you know that, instead of what it is but you don't know, you will be deluded forever and will get nowhere.

>>42084359
So, step by step guide how to do that.

And what about other stuff? I'll be honest, so many of these achievements and experiences are very subjective. I'd like to know how to do something that can be objectively experienced, by the third parties, to prove myself there's something to it and I am not just deluding myself.

>>42084426
"As one opens the door with a key, so the yogi should open the gate to liberation with the kundalini. The great goddess sleeps, closing with her mouth,, the opening through which one can ascend to the brahrnarandhra... to that place where there is neither pain nor suffering. The kundalini sleeps above the kanda... she gives liberation to the yogi and bondage to the fool. He who knows kundalini, knows yoga. The kundalini, it is said, is coiled like a serpent- He who can induce her to move is liberated." Hatha Yoga Pradipika 105-111

With our present limited state of consciousness, bound by sense experiences which become dull and monotonous through endless repetition, and unable to break out of our tensions, problems and anxieties, modern man is facing both a material and spiritual crisis. This crisis is a two-edged sword, Kundalini both binds and liberates. On the one hand it is 'bad', for it creates anxiety and depression and has precipitated a plague of psychosomatic disease and suffering unparalleled in former times. On the other hand, it is 'good', a blessing in disguise which is forcing us to change and grow, to evolve ourselves at individual and social levels.

We are witnessing a tremendous upsurge of interest in yoga, meditation and spiritual values. There has been a revival of the yogic lifestyle and knowledge. Yoga and its related sciences are now recognized as valuable tools within the healing professions and have added tremendous depth and height, a new dimension to psychology and philosophy. Scientists have been inspired to probe deeper into the mysteries of yoga, to investigate the means by which it works and to make the teachings of the ancient rishis and yogis more readily understood and expressed in modern scientific terminology. We are seeing that science is not actually discovering anything new but is substantiating the ancient knowledge of the yogis.

>>42084485
Scientific investigation into yoga and the allied sciences has made this knowledge more accessible by incorporating it into a whole new set of therapeutic techniques and new methods to develop our potential, for example, biofeedback, autogenic training, mind control techniques, psychic healing, and a myriad of other similar processes. New branches of medicine have come into being, and the recognition of mind, begun by Freud in the early part of this century, has finally filtered down into common acceptance. Stress medicine and psychosomatic medicine are examples of our deeper understanding of this interaction of energy, mind and body, an understanding developed through our rediscovery of yoga.

In an effort to penetrate the mysteries of prana shakti, the physical side of psychic energy, and chitta, the mental side of psychic energy, a few respected and eminent pioneers, honoring the rigorous demands of the scientific method, have accumulated a solid core of evidence which explains in scientific terms the phenomenon of psychic energy and validates the teachings of yogis. Science has substantiated the yogic knowledge that a subtle energy exists which is body-based and has both physical and psychic properties. This energy, which powers our awareness and transforms and expands our conscious dimensions, is not just a myth or idea; it is not a metaphysical concept, but a fact. Kundalini is defined as the ultimate, most intense form of this energy, which lies dormant within each and every one of us.

Phenomena such as telepathy, psychic healing, psychokinesis (the moving of matter by mind power), dowsing, telegnosis (psychic reading of history and association of objects), and other paranormal events, are receiving serious attention from the more pioneering members of the international science community as a means of understanding the relationship of energy and consciousness.

>>42084409
This, holy fuck this. Especially given how twisted /srg/ got. What was meant to be an interesting tidbit about moderation and healthy living became something like dogmatic cult meeting Alcoholics Anonymous, with deeply delusional, questionable folks staking their whole spiritual development and even identity on whether they played with their dicks or not.

>>42084490
Hard-headed scientists in the USA, UK, Germany, Holland, Scandinavia and Australia, are taking the lead from the scientists of the Soviet Union, many of whom are financed by their governments. Called bioelectronics or paraphysics in some circles, this field of study is generally known as parapsychology.

In Czechoslovakia it is known as psychotronics, and one of the leading Czech researchers in this field is Dr. Zdenek Rejdak, whose association with Swami Satyananda began in the early seventies when he stayed at the Bihar School of Yoga. Speaking in Japan at the fifth annual conference of the Internationa! Association for Religion and Parapsychology in 1976, Dr. Rejdak defined psychotrotiics, and therefore, the whole field of parapsychology as, “the science which, in an interdisciplinary fashion, studies the distant interactions between living organisms and their environment, internal and external, and the energetic processes underlying these manifestations in order to supplement and widen man’s understanding of the laws of nature.”

Psychic energy Psychic energy has been found to affect a whole range of laboratory equipment, from voltmeters to Geiger counters to magnetometers. Yet this does not mean that psychic energy is electrical, magnetic or radioactive. Rather, it seems to both encompass and go beyond these properties. Most researchers agree with the Soviets who state that psychic energy may have its origin in electrical activity, but the nature of the energy is entirely different. However, yogis state that prana is the substratum of our material universe, interpenetrating and organizing all matter and being the common ground for all energy. They see prana from a different and higher perspective.

>>42084502
It is also generally accepted by scientists that psychic energy, most widely known as bioenergy, is body-based and affects both the physical and mental spheres as indicated by yogis. It has also been measured as a force field surrounding the body up to a distance of twelve feet by Yale neuropsychiatrist, Dr. Leonard Ravitz. (1) This seems to support the yogic concept of the subtle pranic body which interpenetrates and is interdependent with the physical structure, motivating it to function.

There is considerable support for this hypothesis, gathered from the monitoring of the physiological changes experienced by psychics during laboratory tests of paranormal events. For instance, as part of his usual experimental procedure, Dr. Grenady Sergeyev of the A.A. Utkomskii Physiological Institute (a Leningrad military lab.), took readings of the brain waves, heartbeat and pulse rates of Neyia Mikhailova during her numerous demonstrations of psychokinesis. (2) He found that while Mikhailova was causing objects to move without touching them, his instruments recorded a tremendous vibration throughout her body and its surrounding force field which pulsed in the direction of her gaze. Her heart and brain waves also pulsed in unison with this energy vibration, indicating that the energy Mikhailova used in her psychic feats is intimately connected with her whole body. Reports go on to state that:

>>42084514
“After doing these tests, Mrs. Mikhailova was utterly exhausted. There was almost no pulse. She’d lost close to four pounds in half an hour. The EEG (brain wave pattern) showed intense emotional excitement. There was high blood sugar and the endocrine system was disturbed. The whole organism was weakened as if from a tremendous stress reaction. She had lost the sensation of taste, had pains in her arms and legs, couldn’t coordinate and felt dizzy.” (3) At one time, after making a seven hour film of her abilities, Mikhailova was temporarily blind. Other Soviet investigators have recorded changes in brain wave patterns which coincide with the reception of telepathic signals, and researchers in the USA have shown that the volume of blood in the body alters during telepathic interactions.

This evidence leaves no doubt that psychic energy, or bioenergy, is from the body and is the same energy that activates every aspect of our metabolism, from the functioning of the glands, to the brain and heart. It is the power behind the emotions and the operation of the senses. At the same time, prana, though based on and affecting the physical structure and function, has a wider range of properties and is associated with clairvoyance, clairaudience and other forms of extrasensory perception. It has a mental or psychic component and it is both gross and subtle.

>>42084520
Psychic energy can affect matter without any apparent physical intermediary or medium. There is some undetectable energy at work which we cannot measure though we can see its results. It can even be used in healing. Sister Dr. Justa Smith in America, has demonstrated that psychic energy affects enzymes. (4) She has found that trypsin, a digestive enzyme which is damaged and decreases activity when exposed to ultraviolet light, increases activity when exposed to a high intensity magnetic field. When a water damaged trypsin solution was held in the hands of a recognized psychic healer for 72 minutes, irypsin increased its activity

R. Yaeger has shown that when a practitioner of kundalini yoga performed certain pranayama techniques and then sat next to an onion for 15 minutes with his hands in a fixed position, about two feet from the experimental plant, cell division, and therefore metabolic energy increased by 108%. (5) A control subject sitting in the same position, but without doing pranayama, had no effects on the plant.

We have a clear evidence from these experiments that there is a new kind of psychic physiological energy that fits the description of prana and kundalini as set forth in the yogic texts and verbal traditions.

>>42084524
Conclusion

Modern science has been able to ascertain that psychic energy is a real and physically-based phenomenon. Though it does not fall into the known categories of modern science, its effects can be experienced and recorded repeatedly. No one really doubts its existence. What it is and how it functions, its relationship to our body and mind and its potential use as an evolutionary tool require further research from scientists who will find guidelines in the perspectives and experiences of dedicated yogis.

This research will soon be under way at Bihar School of Yoga where we intend to investigate these phenomena in all their varied aspects. Through this, we will be better able to understand the relationship of mind and body and this will have tremendous repercussions on studies in to psychosomatic medicine, psychology and other important fields. As we ourselves learn to appreciate that great joy and good health that come from developing and being sensitive to psychic energy, a large and forgotten area of our being, we will extend our possibilities, develop our innate potential and speed up our spiritual evolution.

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I can also post about the nadis if you want

>>42084502
oh neet Czechoslovakia
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000500420001-2.pdf

>>42084462
the only hard part is just being diligent
your best way to figure out how to breathe properly for this is to draw a warm bath, lay back in it so that the water goes against the eardrums, and you should be surprised at how much you sniff the air when you think you're just breathing normally
the water makes it really loud and apparent
while there, learn how to breathe so that its perfectly silent
there you'll understand how not to sniff the air when you breathe
carry this to seated meditation, use earplugs if they help while you train the breath
you need to train and habituate until you have programmed your autonomic systems
pay attention! at every moment! this is important!
the better you pay attention, the better your body remembers, the better the muscle memory gets programmed
get 4, 5 sessions per day in
the early ones can be short, like 5-10-20 min
but get a long one of at least an hour at the end of the day
habituation is the key to the rote application
keep the awareness in the gut until you get to the point where the light arises there and begins to radiate from your entire body
then it becomes appropriate to move awareness to the midbrain
keep the awareness
keep the awareness!
its why I say once the breath is well mastered it becomes an awareness game
the light literally arises from this awareness
the great stillness comes where all phenomena drop away
there arises a potent movement within the stillness
when this happens you're not too far off
if it arises, and when it returns, are all dictated by your conditioning
its literally that simple my brotha
the difficulty lies in executing properly, frequently

>>42084492
kek, yes
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ytKdbz_ThOg

>>42084462
>I'll be honest, so many of these achievements and experiences are very subjective. I'd like to know how to do something that can be objectively experienced, by the third parties, to prove myself there's something to it and I am not just deluding myself.
I'll be honest, I've never spoken to another person that has put in enough time to accomplish this spiritual light as I have
(despite that, I have met half a dozen people with actual expressable spiritual potential)
but then again I dont think I've met anyone who has also eliminated sickness 20+ years and counting
I believe it is partly because of the neurological approach I have taken
this information simply was not available in such detail to prior generations
there's enough indication in the old texts that this was attained in the past by them
everything I write is consistent with the old texts, though here and there I will differ for explicit and important reasons
I might as well enumerate those, any reference to focusing on the nose or focusing on feeling the air primarily
its dinner time, catch up later

I'm able to elaborate more if anyone wants, but I'm curious if anyone here has knowledge / experience with acupuncture.
There's something called SAAT, i forget the first letter but it's Auricular Allergy Therapy,
Basically you get tiny needles you leave in your ear for 3-4 weeks; there are academic papers showing it has proven effective in lessening symptoms of alpha gal / the meat allergy people get from ticks.
I was considering using it for standard environmental allergies.

>>42084872
>but I'm curious if anyone here has knowledge / experience with acupuncture.
my qi isn't nearly as refined enough to be doing acupuncture so i never bothered

Message I’m seeing in lots of places: visualization is dangerous.

>>42084962
So is water.

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https://epdf.pub/oceans-of-energy-emotrance.html vol1
https://epdf.pub/living-energy-emotrance-s.html vol 2
https://epdf.pub/energy-magic-the-patterns-and-techniques-of-emotrance-v-3.html vol 3

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I believe there is a great ascent coming.

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>>42082943
The Meow that can be read is not the Meow.
The Meow that can be spoken is not the Meow.
The Meow that can be imitated is not the Meow.

The Meow is you, the Meow is me. Only you can be you, only I can be me. Be you, not a meme.

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From translation section of Embryonic Breathing.

What's the most basic way to get into this

Like a 15 minute youtube guide or smth

>>42084872
I’ll take away your allergies if you want.

>>42084962
like I said above, the gongfu of internal vision is not imagining things

Reposting from the last cultivation thread since it got archived

I have a question for olfactoryanon. I've read your past messages and you said to refine breath by moving only the diaphragm, imagining a little guy pulling on it.

When I try to do it, I feel suffocated and immediately gasp for air. Is this how it should be or do I need to do some preparatory exercises?

I've read your stuff on the archive but it would be nice if you could write down a proper practice sequence/routine for beginners. Maybe make your own thread about it. I think it would help a lot of people.

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How does one get into Reiki Healing

>>42087626
Reiki healing is kinda like somewhat intermediate qigong just specialized for that one thing. However, to get there without shortcuts would be near impossible, so like how it is that most eastern energy cultivation traditions it requires master to oversee and adjust your progress over time for the sake of smooth sailing. Reiki supposedly depends on initiation by an accomplished master to allow you to do any healing. Presumably the same master would also teach you how to go about using what they'll help you develop.

Suffice to say, there's shitload of scams there, be it by practitioners who never really developed enough to do any healing worth a damn or even by supposed masters who lack proper initiation and ability themselves, but provide flawed, unreliable initiations to others.

>>42084637
>its dinner time, catch up later
Welp, still waiting. You have long dinners, dude. Hoping you'll deliver some exercise/practice that will show objective results, with no space for it being dependent on subjective feelings and interpretation. I don't expect pop-culture flinging of fireballs, but damn.. something.

>>42082739
put it on video then . Or stfu with your bullshit

As in the last thread:
If anyone wants a jumpstart in their cultivation I am willing to clear as much of your astral/etheric body’s channels/chakras of blockages as our karmas will allow at this point in time. I will also break all contracts that are opposed to your highest good and any curses/entities preventing proper cultivation. In some cases this will awaken your kundalini in others there’s still more work to be done. All you need to do is reply to me and I will send you an energetic transmission. This will be my last thread for a while for cultivation. I’m going to be very busy with my own progress afterwards so get it while you can! God bless.

>>42088239
Can you do this for the entirety of earths population?

>>42088255
I can and continuously do after certain benchmarks are met but due to higher level rules, karma, and spiritual war in higher planes people all don’t simply all feel inner peace at once or get energetic upgrades at once but where a person might not have been able to discover spirituality the blockages in their heart and faith are removed and they can discover that path for themselves. Others might be able to receive a miracle through prayer or some form of healing they would otherwise not. Many monks/holy men contribute to this sort of thing on a global scale with their daily meditations and extended retreats with the intention of blessing mankind. A one on one transmission or transmission for you and loved ones will be felt much more as you are accepting it yourself and choosing to change your karma for the better where as globally it would be a collective conscious sort of thing.

>>42086703
>When I try to do it, I feel suffocated and immediately gasp for air. Is this how it should be or do I need to do some preparatory exercises?
that sounds odd to me and doesnt really compute
usually if you're running out of air that means you're not exhaling fully enough
mind your posture, if you're hunched forward you're not going to be able to take a full breath

>>42087626
inadvisable to utilize noncorporeal entities to do healings for you
if you borrow, you owe

>>42088150
you're saying this after all I've written, lol
you seem to think there's some super special sauce aside from putting in the work or something
mostly nobody today has achieved the fruits of what's written in the ancient recipes for this same reason

>>42088175
the kid himself said that he didnt use any style or technique when asked about it
this isnt an MMA thread, go make one somewhere

>>42088239
im interested, thank you kindly

>>42088150
>dependent on subjective feelings and interpretation
this is lolworthy and you havent understood my prior posts
make yourself efficient enough and the light pops out
I'm not the first to have written this

>>42088239
I'll accept if your word is true and will place me along the path for growth my higher self wishes to share with me.

>>42088549
bootstraps, dude
there's no such thing as spiritual welfare
put in the time or you dont get the benefits
you certainly wont get them from a larp

>>42088562
sit and close eyes for as long as possible/day?

>>42088591
refine the breath until you can have 100% turbulence free respiration
pay good attention as much as possible
habituate thoroughly
if you dont refine the breath and silence the mind, progress will be extremely slow, if not nonexistent

>>42088549
Sending you the strongest transmission I can for your highest good right now.

>>42088239
Ready sir

>>42088752
Sending you a transmission now.

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>>42088239
Send some healing energy to a special girl whose heart I hurt if you would.

>>42088450
>noncorporeal entities
To what extent have you ventured into nei dan?

>>42088853
Will do. Sending right now.

>>42088449
It happens when I try to do it really slow,like my mind panics and gasps.

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Guru Viking interviews Damo Mitchell “When Qigong Goes Wrong”
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eQL6N1Z2ALU
Stay safe and grounded bros. Foundation then ascent.

>>42088941
you're only going to be able to breathe so slowly for your given current state before your body fights back
part of the trick of making progress is to push these boundaries gently without triggering your body's feedback mechanisms
seek to breathe on the slow side of what's comfortable and work from there

>>42088458
>you're saying this after all I've written, lol
Mayhaps I am a tard with destiny of singing to a potato.
Link to particular post you mean? You mean that light thing? That's what I mean as subjective. It's what you feel, third party observer will see nothing.
Feed me, Seymour!

>>42089363
>It's what you feel, third party observer will see nothing.
the enlightenment process is literal
one who is enlightened will literally emit light that normies can see
the spark that comes from within is the precursor to it
it is one of the more amazing things a human being can experience, I assure you
to see
to bleed
cannot be taught

>>42088833
Just ate like a slob. Regretful but your energy keeps me feeling good.

>>42089439
Can you describe the sensations you felt, energetically, as your breath became slender and you progressed in your practice? If you felt an increase in energy, what did that feel like? Any surprises?

>>42089439
how one goes about it again? Can you link the posts because I think there was several, something about proper breathing? sorry, me dumb, need autistically detailed step-by-step guide for dumb dumbs

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>>42079839
I´m new to this general but it seems very cool, but can some anons here help me out? I find kundalini the most interesting but can you practice it on your own or do you need a guru? also for those of you that practice it, where would you say a beginner should start?

>>42083966
>>42089899 see above
Go to previous thread and search for the archive.4plebs.org links, or go directly there and search olfactoryanon

>>42089947
IMHO kundalini is much likely to bring you some results in practicing solo than majority of eastern energy cultivation traditions. Which doesn't mean it'd be easy in general or that a good teacher wouldn't make a huge difference - but you can have a gander at it on your own, it'll be just tougher, the effects likely slower and risks bigger.
I don't practice it myself but as I understand it, there's just a bunch of basic practices you keep at, before moving to other practices.

>>42089947
Have you researched it at all? Seems like kundalini is a warned about as the thing not to dabble in as a beginner.

>>42090074
Not that anon
Kundalini comes with risks by default, but at least it's easier to get somewhere there. The risks will be there though, and you will have to manage them yourself without decent master.

>>42089460
Lol I’m glad to hear it.

>>42089955
Okay, so I read that, can you elaborate on breathing? What do you mean "not sniffing the air", or how the air is not meant to go through some particular opening like nose/throat? Diaphragm is one thing but the air has to enter somehow.

>>42090041
>it'll be just tougher, the effects likely slower and risks bigger.
im not in a rush really so taking time is planned in
>>42090074
>Have you researched it at all?
not really, it all seems rather convoluted for an outsider like me
>>42090085
what would those risks even contain? like physical pain or going insane or something along those lines?

>>42090297
>what would those risks even contain? like physical pain or going insane or something along those lines?
Both and more. Stuff like hallucinations, losing touch with base reality, involuntary behaviors and actions are not very rare around kundalini awakening. Sometimes it may be long-lasting schizoprenia-like bullshit on top of your body twisting itself as it adjusts to the energy. I recall some qigong practitioner claiming it's because unlike in "proper" qigong practice, kundalini practitioners tend to just concentrate on building and pushing shitload of energy through central channel without caring about preparing it first, just brute forcing energy body development and that makes their physical and subtle bodies go haywire. Many practitioners get better over time as spirit, mind and body adjusts but sometimes there's damage left.

>>42089899
sorry was busy at work

>>42090193
>What do you mean "not sniffing the air", or how the air is not meant to go through some particular opening like nose/throat? Diaphragm is one thing but the air has to enter somehow.
there's a very significant difference between letting the guts move the air, and using the airways to buffer the incoming air and assist in its travels through the airways
you'd be surprised how much you sniff at the air while you breathe
of course the air goes through the nostrils and such
but you're not using the sinuses or other structures that the air touches to facilitate the air's movement
doing this necessarily draws air across the olfactory nerves, which causes neurological potentials to be generated, energy consumed, senses processed
you want to make the flow completely turbulence free
but any action from the nose, sinuses, throat, etc, will serve to cause turbulence, draw air to the olfactory nerves
restraining the senses means refining the breath until the turbulence is gone
since breath is the most coarse ongoing bodily function that we have a decent measure of control over.

>>42090297
>im not in a rush really so taking time is planned in
this is good
build the foundation first before moving on to anything more advanced
it is both a power adder as well as a safety mechanism

>>42084188
its self explanatory, if you have a deaf ear, you cant hear with it, its not working the way it should.
so if a part of your body is not working the way it should then it will throw things out of wack.
there is a difference between being a tight ass, and a loose ass. a tight ass has trouble relaxing. a loose ass has no control whatsoever of the muscle group. often times what you will see with homosexual men is that later in life they may need to wear diapers because they lack control of the sphincter.
i am telling you this, which i bet you can already understand. don't misuse your body for something its not suppose to be for. there are ramifications of that. which could be you having trouble climbing up your chakras to higher points of energy.

>>42083012
then why don't i see any professional MMA fighters that claim this style?

there is an advance meditation i know for advance chakra control. its pretty damn difficult. but essentially you hold the first chakra at the bas of the spine. following this also squeeze your 2nd chakra, which is just slightly below you navel. the 3rd chakra you pull your stomach in and up into your rib cage. you cannot do anything for the heart. but you lock the first 3 chakras all at once. this isnt easy. it takes practice. you will find that you lock your first chakra, then your second and when you try your third, your first chakra relaxes.
so after you have all 3 chakras locked, you then can go for the 5th and 6th chakra. the fifth one is your throat. you tuck your chin into your chest. while also rolling your tongue. for your 6th chakra, you keep your eyes close and you peer into your 3rd eye.
so you lock the first 3, then you do the 5th and 6th one. you hold all those together in such manner for as long as you can. eventually you will need to breathe which will release the hold. but this kind of body control should only be done after you have oxygenated your blood by deep breathwork.
maybe one day you try. I have done this before myself. but its still very difficult since it takes a lot of focus and control of the body.

oh yeah one more thing, for the 6th chakra where you are looking up into your third eye. you mentally think "Aum Mani Padme Hum".
so there. thats your really difficult chakra practice. hold all 3 first gates. then lock the 5th by rolling the tongue, 6th by peering up and thinking the mantra Aum Mani Padme Hum.
if you can do all of that for just a few moments. its pretty impressive in my eyes.

>>42090858
the average human is barely sentient

>>42090933
you know i have heard that practicing hatha yoga, lord shiva protects its practitioners. but i have never heard of someone taking a technique like this and believing its for fighting.

>>42086189
Late reply on my part but if doable I'd be grateful.
I'm literally allergic to everything here plantwise, at least in the allergen category. Oak, cedar, pine, ragweed, you name it. Like, a proper allergy test result just showed red across the board.
But also dust, cats, and probably other minor things.
Haven't found much in the way of retuning immune system which, frankly, I'm quite surprised by given how much it seems like it'd go well with energy stuff.

>>42086703
>>42088449
Probably not related but let me tell you about what I learned from deviated septum surgery research. There are things called turbinads which get inflamed from allergies. During a surgery these are typically shaved (mine were), but you can request them not be. Rarely, something somehow goes wrong here and people report a subjective feeling of not getting any airflow (despite measurable air getting into them/their lungs). Sometimes it's enough to even drive people to suicide.
It's probably not related to this I just wanted to share and say that there's a -lot- that goes into breathing, both physiologically and psychologically.
>>42088239
Sure anon-senpai, that'd be appreciated.

Swedenborg! Wow, how have I never looked into him before?

>>42088239
If what you say is true and this jumpstart causes no harm.

>>42091041
Sending transmission now.

>>42091204
No harm will come to you from it. Sending the transmission now.

>>42091500
Left for a while and came back. Interesting that I felt a buzz in head when I read this, though not at time of your posting.
Maybe kind of like receiving a package vs. sending one?

Either way thanks.

>>42091568
Definitely, as energy can function out of time and there is energy in my posts for those who are ready to receive it.

>>42091568
meds now

>>42091016
part of the reason I havent had a cold or seasonal allergy in like 20 years is because I do shaking medicine and use the hand form to crunch the energy of the lower dt & solar plexus, which makes the niwan react and a side effect is saliva, snivel, tears
combine that with a hot shower every night,
the shit never builds up to reach the point of manifesting as a sickness
proto-sicknesses are expelled in this way

>>42091041
>Rarely, something somehow goes wrong here and people report a subjective feeling of not getting any airflow (despite measurable air getting into them/their lungs). Sometimes it's enough to even drive people to suicide.
well, for meditative breath you want to eliminate this anyway
just because there's no feeling doesnt mean there's no airflow, as you said
but bring this to a minimist concept and the flow becomes fine enough for the nerves to not detect it
this ceases these neural cascades that form and eliminates a lot of side processing
this is why when you train it to a very high degree, you achieve the random thought free mind
because you have eliminated their roots
I had to train very deeply in order to make these realizations, they come from my own practice
but you reach a point where you make these sorts of connections
the senses are literally the basis for the ruminating mind
the popping off of random thoughts is a blowoff valve
but if you make the process efficient enough then it becomes unnecessary and the requisite potentials for them to manifest are not present

>>42089881
the best part about how I began is I read just a bit of the right material and tried to bring its execution to whatever logical conclusions I might
from ymaaEB, soft, calm, slender, long, deep
longevity breathing, just the notion
I had to troubleshoot some things and ask the question, what exactly are the mechanics of a proper meditative breath, how to begin an inhale
energetic things come once the physical refinements are integrated
you want to enhance this signal to noise ratio
attenuating the noise autoenhances the signal
make efficiency gains, gung builds because of this, rigorously applied
allows longer, deeper breaths
revealing eventually that the base needs are energetic and not chemical
chi flows where yi goes
focus on the proprioception of it
train it
then it becomes superlatively well programmed into the autonomic instruction sets of the body
this allows for more keeping the awareness
I had a perception of light form in my gut
the gongfu of inner vision is to see clearly, honestly
so it becomes difficult to describe
but it was accompanied by a sensation of energetic potential
over some number of sessions, it grew from a golf ball's size to a peach, a grapefruit, encompassed the peritoneum, the torso, began to radiate off my skin, grew larger, larger, until beyond perception
until the focus came back and I was sitting, a size distortion happened where I was 3 inches tall in the location of the dantien, before I realized no, I'm my actual size
after this I began placing my awareness in the niwan, and the manifestation of the light was as I've described above
hundreds, and hundreds of times
it returns like an old friend, so happy to see you again

>>42090858
sorry bro I'm not here to talk about mma

>>42089881
I have described the methods of catching and stabilizing the arising light in other threads, perhaps we can get to that tomorrow but its late and I must go sit for a bit

They always send bots or people to shit up the thread with nonsense discussions when any practical advice or help is offered. If there’s not these sorts of threads die with pretty much 0 responders generally.

>>42091719
Shaking medicine or shaking meditation? Hand form of what?

>>42092061
I have a YTT 200 hour certification through the RYS Yoga Alliance. I have been studying this kind of field on and off for 13 years.
I can assure you as someone who has walked the walk and talk the talk that there are plenty of people misinformed on the subject. It doesn't take a genius to understand this field. but you can tell easily when someone does not know what they are talking about. At least I am certified to actually teach this. unlike others. I could be charging people for the work by this point. I mean why do I HAVE TO share with people what I know. what is my moral obligation except to right the wrongs.
All Yogic Guru's believe that teachings should be free. which i can agree, but in this world. pay up or i dont work.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>42089947
>I find kundalini the most interesting

Daoist internal alchemy would be an alternative. Guru? Seek and you will find.

>>42092834
What a useless addition to this thread. Bragging about your LGBTQ+ yoga cert in a paragraph of nothing.

Can someone please chi ball me with good energy? I really need help. It’s 3am and feel such terror inside of me. I’m female too.

>>42093322
I learned from a Monk that lived in the Himilayan mountain range. which is great, because that is the place where a lot of Yogi's and Monks really spend their entire life devoting time to the practice of meditation. and also the place where young people learn from meditation masters.
Now i cannot say that i have learned it all. but trying to take advice from a cocksucka like yourself. woooo.
now you can shut up and listen. or you can pretend to know it all. i dont need you.
like why are you even here? like im a level 5 trying to get a level 1, 2, 3, or 4 up one place. where you are probably just a spreader of false teachings yourself.
You have no teacher, you have no certification to teach in America.
whats it to me? whats it to YOU?

like i dont need a piece of paper for my credentials. i have teachers that know i know what i am doing. they knew what they were doing themselves. but i have one anyways.
i dont lack credibility. you do.

>>42079839
I love this general,
although I would really, really, appreciate it if the experience individuals would create some /ecg/ paste-bin where sources or methods like how to practice stillness and other techniques are posted on

Do that and it would make my and many others extremely grateful

>>42092834
>>42093406
NTA
Making most of the message about your supposed competence proven by pointless peace of paper in effort to put yourself above someone else does not have the effect you think it does. Quite the opposite, it makes it look more like very unsophisticated ego trip.

>>42093438
Then how is he supposed to prove his competence,

>He doesn’t say anything
Larppp, you haven’t done shit

>He does say something
Larppp, you’re overcompensating

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>>42093250
>Daoist internal alchemy would be an alternative.
sounds super interesting as well, but for me its best to concentrate on one system before i fuck up tow lol. are you doing taoist alchemy?
>>42090525
>>42090334
yeah not tryingto brute force brain damage

>>42093438
i have cousins and many people i know that know this kind of stuff that have been practicing longer than i have. so you think i need this thread? you think i need you? its a family affair in my world, its a family business in my world. we like our yoga and meditation. you blow me off, i bet you can find another teacher, but like hell you think i need you, when i can place a phone call and literally ask someone smart about whatever i think i may need to know.
Its like you are suspicious on why i am here. well i am here because i was you a long time ago. like i know what kind of thread i am posting in. but to deny me what i know. sheesh.
do you even have credentials?

like one cousin is going to teach in a studio tomorrow. another cousin works in a rehab facility where they use yoga and meditation to get suicidal, drug addicts and people with PTSD some help.
and here i sit a vessel of information that has learned from experienced masters from far distant lands, and excellent students that go out every day and do this for people. with my big noggin. and i look upon a thread of jackasses that think they know what they are doing.
just thought id help. i mean i can do anything i realistically want. but this topic is something that has always been of interest to my own kind. and i just so happen to be well versed.
do you even know the fucking wae?

>>42093492
sperging out isnt going to help your case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNuu9CpdjIo

>>42093455
Bro just stop responding to him it’s obviously bait

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>>42091786
>>42091854
Is the LDT located where the womb would be if I were a woman?

>>42087626
You establish a contract with the god of mount kurama through initiation into usui's lineage following his shamanic experience. Beyond the founders personal shamanic experience it's just really standard japanese pop occultism of the time.

All disinfo/timewasting agents and their organizations, whoever is responsible for the bots all the way to the top, anyone spreading purposely false will be cursed until they repent and cease their actions. Do Not stand in front of seekers of the Way. Let them know.

>>42093958
more or less, the culmination of the small intestine
but as taoist yoga describes it,
on the centerline, 3:7 front:back

>>42093433
>Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
why would I bother with that when what I write here gets archived and stored already?

>>42092070
tis an energy cultivation
hands at dantien and solar plexus facing each other

>>42093492
we appreciate your posts but perhaps you could just dial down the schizo prose from 7/10 to 4/10, mkay?

>>42093958
>when the heart and abdomen are linked
this takes place after the breath has reached a sufficient level of refinement
the breaths are slow, but the heart doesnt quite follow it immediately
it speeds up with the inhale, slows down with the exhale
to get past this, some time needs to be spent with the awareness at the heart until the heart becomes harmonized with the process and returns to a "normal beat" that is slower but does not waver with the inhales and exhales as before

>>42093452
>Then how is he supposed to prove his competence,
He can explain his stance and move on. Those who'll believe him or not do it then at their own responsibility. Certainly it's more smart than trying to lord it over others - you won't show superiority by going on ego trips here.
>>42093455
>I have this, I don't need that, I know these or those
You've missed the point. I've pointed out I am not the anon you were arguing with. I am a person telling you that by trying to show off here makes you only look suspicious. How can I believe you have any degree of spiritual development if you cannot stop yourself from dick measuring contest against an anonymous person on the internet?
>do you even have credentials?
For what, to tell you that you act like a spoiled brat? Sure, about the same as anyone else under the blue sky.
>so you think i need this thread? you think i need you?
No. But you seem to forget it goes both ways. We don't really need you either. The thread will function just fine without your ego trips. Not that the anon you've argued with was a saint, but he just made random comment, it's you who acted childish and as if you'd be personally insulted. Again, if you're this petty, you are the one making yourself look like a kid with a chip on their shoulder, and no quantity of credentials will fix that image.

That's all. You know my reasoning now and if you plan to be all defensive about it, feel free to but I don't plan to indulge you further.

>>42094378
Interesting. This is the heart-mind tech you referred to before?
I’ve noticed that after about a half hour of good stillness my body feels like a crystallized shell, and that my attention can wander within or around it at will. This is all very cool.

Have an English translation of Emanuel Swedenborg’s dream journal:
https://archive.org/details/emanuelswedenbor00swed/page/3/mode/1up

>>42094406
>This is the heart-mind tech you referred to before?
yes, the breath carries forth as per how you've trained it, the awareness goes to the heart
and you're kinda just intent-telling it
>its all good little buddy, calm, soft, smooth, smooth it out
without words of course because those bastards get in the way of cultivation

>>42094406
>and that my attention can wander within or around it at will.
you dont want to wander, though
keep your attention where it needs to be for the stage you are working on at that point
keep sessions coherent, consistent
work towards the goal

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>>42094427
Okay. As far as goals right now, I am only trying to breathe as subtly and long as possible, from the gut as per your posts. My attention I am trying to keep in between the perineum and the diaphragm, but also focused on the breath - which feels distracting but I assume it will feel that way until as you say the slender breathing becomes natural and without effort.

>>42094427
NTA
Got a training regime to follow thorough one's prace? Can recommend some? I know most people claim there's no chance to get anywhere without some sort of master, but I wonter if you have the next best thing.

I’ve also been focusing on my breath during long walks. Even when not meditating, breathing this way noticeably reduced mind clutter.

>>42094453
get the timing of the motions down so that they are harmonious
after that, focus on maintaining the air flow to be as subtle as possible
dont worry about it becoming natural without effort, that is a result of the training
its important to understand that mastering breathwork is a stage
the relaxation, naturalness, et al come as mastery is achieved
so while one relaxes his body during the training, it is important to train the process so that the body remembers
then that's where the training shines through

>>42094459
>Got a training regime to follow thorough one's prace? Can recommend some?
I've mentioned this a bunch over the time I've been posting here
for best results, the session at the end of the day should be at least 1 hour
for best results, there should be multiple sessions per day so as to maximize the habituation of the effort
earlier sessions dont need to be long but when they are frequent, you enhance the benefit and habituation happens more quickly
5-10-20 min sessions for these earlier ones
those times alone dont do a heck of a lot, but when paired with the hour+ end of day session and the short ones happen 3-4 times throughout the day
also to the point of just grabbing a moment here and there to breath-reset
this all has cumulative benefits
the better one completes this stage, the more it shines later on
>I know most people claim there's no chance to get anywhere without some sort of master, but I wonter if you have the next best thing.
training the foundation does not require a master's supervision to accomplish well, this work is all on the practitioner
it is a pretty simple process, the hard part lies in diligently executing often enough
I dont teach other things here for this reason, same reason I dont hand out books of matches to 4 year olds and tell them go have fun with 'em, it would be irresponsible
its too easy to try and jump ahead, thinking one might make faster progress this way, but its not the case
the more solidly the foundation is built, the faster the progress
same as maths, you dont skip to algebra without learning long division and fractions first or its gonna be a tougher slog

>>42094463
Beginner's mistake is thinking that you can only meditate in silence and isolation, while in reality you can meditate anywhere at any time.

>>42094494
You did mention some exercises and sessions but I am asking about training regime, as in, breakdown of exercises, order in which it should be practiced, from the very beginning, as if you'd be talking with someone who thinks qigong is what they sell at local asian restaurant and meditation is the stuff wizards do in D&D to refill their spell slots.
Do you have something like that, not necessarily your own, but what works/described things well and what you could recommend someone?
I admit I did practice some stuff over the years, with various results, of various kinds, but I look for something more solid and orderly to start from scratch now and which would carry me for years to come and I hope that you've got something like that I can have a gander at.

>>42094506
I reckon it's because many beginners have hard time wrangling their thoughts and attention when there's stuff beside silence and isolation disrupting them.

>>42094355
Not the anon you replied to, but this way you can condense your instructions and troubleshooting tips which you can refer to anytime. Moreover, if it covers all the bases in one's practice, someone can make a pdf and publish it.(with your consent of course)

>>42094355
Since you keep getting questions for stuff you've answered and people need to search archives all the time, having one link ready with all the stuff other may want to know could save everyone time and effort

>>42094614
I get what you guys are saying, but I'm literally using our interactions here to help refine the writing of my book
as I consider this foundational material to be human birthright, I will make sure a pdf copy is free for all of humanity
I appreciate yalls patience

What is the wuji state?

>>42094891
>What is the wuji state?
it is balance, it is achieving the unmanifested
people are always worried about manifesting this or that, they dont realize that bolstering the unmanifested is what allows the body to make its decisions uninfluenced by the mind and this winds up being the most efficient path
people want to worry about how can I cultivate my sexual energy, this is the wrong way to go about it
when you cultivate to the point of wuji, then you're leaving these various energies in their raw base state
conversions always come with a cost
so for example the body will reabsorb sperm and such
but its much more efficient and effective to not make more than necessary to begin with
>Wuji (无极), translating to "limitless" or "ultimate of nothingness," is a fundamental concept in Chinese philosophy and Taoism representing the primordial state of emptiness, stillness, and non-duality before the existence of Yin and Yang - symbolizing potential, perfect balance, and harmonious energy

>>42094851
Got a title etc so one can keep track?

>>42095029
99% it will be
the doorway to samahdi

>>42094975
>>42095054
Based

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What if we could die, but in life as a practice run, so we could live knowing what happens when we die?

>>42095389
Random off-topic tangent. I suspect a bot.

New thread >>42095996

>>42079839

Cringe picture.

>>42095389
kek, what do you think a major point of generating the spiritual light is?

>>42088239
I'm down, thank you sir.

>>42088239
>>42088287
>If anyone wants a jumpstart in their cultivation I am willing to clear as much of your astral/etheric body’s channels/chakras of blockages as our karmas will allow at this point in time.

>doesn't know what other anons wil practice and how will it work with whatever you will do to them
>uses terms from several, not always compatible traditions/cosmologies
I am unsure if it's a LARP or someone with good intentions on the way to fuck it up for others. There's a reason why practitioners of certain traditions are discouraged even from practiting some things from other, similar traditions, yet you treat it like some generalized help. IF your intent is genuine I applaud it but I wonder how many people - assuming you are actually capable of making a difference - got themselves fucked up by pursuing practices not agreeing with whatever you'd do to them.