Rise up TI Chads.Expose the glowies and help other TI's by posting what is happening to you and what they are doing to you.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPROhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzunghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrkraftzersetzunghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompromathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cases_of_political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Unionhttps://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/gang-stalking-a-survival-guide-for-targeted-individuals/265947141#1https://youtu.be/tAPI6mv2O-U?si=mkgHgs29QnuWSusP [Open] [Open]Gangstalking training manual from Targeted Justice.https://web.archive.org/web/20250120175435/https://www.targetedjustice.com/gangstalking---training-manual.htmlConsider the following:>A targeted individual is a person who has been singled out because of his or her activism, whistle-blowing, or political/ideological dissent.>Gangstalking usually happens when a person that has commited no crimes is defamed in some way.>Neighborhood watch and other untrained opinionated vigilantes are the obvious offenders of gangstalking, including official or unofficial political groups etc.Tactics used include:1. illegal surveillance (bugs placed in home, work, vehicle)2. illegal wiretapping3. illegal investigation of all personal and private documents including medical and financial records4. waves of criminal activity including vandalism, poisoning, break-ins, theft and sexual assault5. hacking of all electronic devices6. harassing phone calls, texts & emails7. redirects to gang-stalkers when the target calls for help or assistance8. organized harassment & stalking (by law enforcement, private security firms and ordinary citizens)9. being ostracized by entire communities based on slander and rumors (usually outright lies said about that person)>Ignore the glowtards whose job it is to say gangstalking is not realPrevious thread: >>42121969
Gangstalking moviehttps://archive.org/details/The-Spark-Stephen-ShellenbergerUsed to be free on youtube on the guy who made the films YouTube channel. Unfortunately now only available on Vimeo for purchase or rental.https://vimeo.com/ondemand/thesparkThe actor in the film is quite a well known actorhttps://m.imdb.com/name/nm0791156/He was also TI and a victim of gangstalkinghttps://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/human-rights/the-spark-redefines-living-in-a-surveillance-society
https://youtu.be/r9-3K3rkPRE?si=mecce4PWU52peVUd https://youtu.be/sVIxWy5U1yY?si=i9coGnYuHN1fsu-V https://youtu.be/BMAnDizHA-s?si=d4vhIWlfxMBO0y0S https://youtu.be/VoEEDjcavnE?si=Z3FxjSFvpgfh0iRJ https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/30067998/#30068159https://youtu.be/BxrB15T92SI?si=xbzjygnSC97ItEA6 https://youtu.be/gLURzsDpDi8?si=s35AFAiYrUilqvEe
https://rudy2.wordpress.com/gang-stalking-vigilantism-run-by-u-s-government-says-ex-fbi-official-says-ex-fbi-official/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6dk0MCOur8 https://www.theagencyinc.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/gangstalking.pdfhttps://stalking-organizzato.ch/assassini-programmati-mkultra-artichoke-cia-controllo-mentale-project-soul-catcher-robert-duncan.htmlhttps://www.mylawquestions.com/what-is-gang-stalking.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_stalkinghttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/278406061_Complaints_of_group-stalking_'gang-stalking'_an_exploratory_study_of_their_nature_and_impact_on_complainantshttps://www.youtube.com/@targetedindividualdenmark9313/videoshttps://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1337620https://www.amazon.com/Cause-Stalking-David-Lawson/product-reviews/0970309252https://www.scribd.com/document/595971174/Cause-Stalking-and-Terrorist-Stalking-in-America-A-Summary-of-David-Lawson-s-Books-by-Eleanor-Whitehttps://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/1340-run-hide-repeathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXurHH6of0&list=PLuMdLmjdG8ddMYG0_hZvQ8FOa3Gpf-DVm&index=1 https://www.semanticscholar.org/reader/0b8868b4f9befa4825b988de5cf24ffb48c13729https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9br5fXm4CQw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9CX4exnp48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ump-T5bzjM https://www.reddit.com/r/Gangstalking/comments/18y87av/what_is_in_the_trucks/https://twitter.com/annalisamcc/status/1719824855963677168https://twitter.com/v2kbrasilhttps://twitter.com/tieventsdotorg/status/1735104027296166335https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftAtvF0sO4M https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25351634/#25352052https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25504657/#q25504657https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEKG2EVD4Ew https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkZELTwtFlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6oKpwusGPA
https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/GangstalkingFrom 2004https://web.archive.org/web/20041126203903/http://www.gangstalking.ca/From 2006https://web.archive.org/web/20070114181524/http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/United/index.php/Main/GS101>d) Everyday life breaks and street theatre.>Flat tires, sleep deprivation, drugging food, putting dirt on targets property. Mass strangers doing things in public to annoy targets. These strangers might get text messaged to be at a specific time and place, and perform a specific action.>It might seem harmless to these strangers, but it could be causing great psychological trauma for the target. Eg. Blocking targets path, getting ahead of them in line, cutting or boxing them in on the road, saying or doing things to elicit a response from targets. Etc.From 2007https://web.archive.org/web/20071227194309/http://www.stopeg.com
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20210609/282123524446185Stasi torture methods, almost exactly the same as gangstalking“Stasi's 'no touch' torture: It was the East German secret police's most terrifying weapon - gaslighting mind games that drove its own citizens mad... and the lessons for today's social media generation couldn't be more stark”https://fastercapital.com/content/Secret-Police--The-Stasi--GDR-s-Secret-Police-and-their-Tactics.html#Psychological-Warfare
To the outside observer street theater means nothing because it is personalised.When you are walking around srhxdand people start repeating conversations you have had with other people face to face, on the phone or even through email word for word then you know it is street thearter. They also will repeat lines from films or TV shows you have watched recently or talk about actors from those films or TV shows. Even phrases from video games or lyrics from songs.If I were to record a a video of someone doing street thearter that is part of my gangstalking it would just seem like people having a normal conversation, but when you are the person it is aimed at and they are repeating conversations you have had word for word or other stuff then you know it is street thearter.https://youtu.be/0JJeLI3D_Ng?si=UE7Zxz2ueTutqnXK
Reposting anons postHi everyone! I'm peterpeter, founder of OTIR (Objective TI Research). You may have seen some of my materials online by now (like the leaflet posted in the previous thread).I know most of you here think it’s the feds, freemasons, illuminati etc, or even your neighbours. I have been through all of that myself and found out there is a systemic progression of understanding to this phenomenon. With time and knowledge you start to see facts about your experience that force you to realize you were duped, and the whole narrative you were assured off breaks down and evolves into a new vision. I’m sure you were through this a couple of times yourselves.I have described it better here:Memo #5: Stages of understanding in TI experience https://otiresearch.medium.com/memo-05-stages-of-understanding-in-ti-experience-be62b3894cbbIf you are interested in contacting me and talking more about it in analytical perspective, feel free to contact me on discord or anywhere else.I am not selling anything and don’t promise anything, but know this: I am out of the TI experience, and I have met a lot of people like me. It isn’t just finite, the experience is meant to end, as it is a procedure with clearly defined goals. It’s going to be alright
>Harassment techniques include:>1. Surveillance (being followed, electronic surveillance, computer and phone hacking, monitoring all online activities, and bugging of home)>2.Profiles are built to identify any and all weaknesses and insecurities to be used later. Information often obtained through sexual partners or trusted people in their lives.>3.Conditioning where victims are sensitised to certain stimuli such as everywhere you go someone will cough as they walk past you. The goal is to make you self police and then think anyone who coughs is involved in the harassment. People report of conditioning to include hand gestures, an overt use of colour in peoples clothing (like everyone you see wearing red) or cars a certain colour or with headlights on (also known as brighting).>4. Anchoring where someone will provide false rationales for the harassment. Often many possible rationales are planted to keep the victim confused and the focus of the harassment cycles from one possible reason to another round and around so as to keep the victim guessing in a self perpetuating guessing game where every scenario you are to blame and causes self doubt, fear, intimidation, and ultimately a cycle of destructive thoughts>5. Mobbing (or true gangstalking) where everywhere you go you will see an overt display of people following you and often use words you have been conditioned to or your name to draw your attention>6. Street theatre where a group will "perform" an overt activity like a fake confrontation or scenarios designed to test your reactions. Often takes the form of a couple who position themselves near you and then have a conversation using many of your conditioned words or pertaining to your particular situation and sensitivities.
>7.The use of directional speakers which have the ability to direct sound to a single individual in a crowded room. This particular item is ultimately the most used and is often referred to as V2K or Voice to Skull and is used extensively in the psychological breakdown of the victim. The use initially is to cause the victim to doubt their sanity and drive them into the mental health system, and later to just torment and never give the victim a moment of privacy or peace. If they do enter the mental health system, then harassment escalates dramatically as the victim has now been "discredited" and can be labeled as someone with a mental problem if they do speak out about the harassment.>8.The use of electronics to effect your eyesight and balance which was originally developed for the military and police crowd control called "dazzling" and even the ability to make you vomit.>9. Sound campaigns which is a community harassment technique where abnormal levels of sound are directed at the victim and their home. This includes cars deliberately breaking or accelerating when they pass, people talking excessively loudly at all hours of the night, amplification of sound using directional speakers so that external sounds that previously couldnt be heard now can, garbage trucks and other heavy vehicles, and countless other deliberate tactics
>10. Sleep deprivation - this is perhaps one of the most insidious tactics used where victims are woken multiple times a night and can be kept awake for days at a time. The effects are dramatic and completely debilitating effecting concentration, mood, irritability, appearance, and significantly impacts all areas of their life - job performance, relationships, and significantly aids in discrediting the victim as they appear unorganised, disheveled, and sleeping patterns alter so they may sleep during the day (where noise campaigns are more effective) and be awake at night (where they can be painted as the one making noise and being a disruptive member of the community).>11. Baiting or entrapment where victims are harassed to the point that they lash out and commit a crime such as assault, break and enter or vandalism, as they try and locate the source of the harassment. Harassers will actively try to provoke verbal and physical confrontations especially after a period of sleep deprivation. Or they are prompted into an activity which can then be used as leverage such as affairs, sexuality, drug use, or other criminal activity.>12. Gaslighting which is a form of psychological abuse where someone will actively try undermine victims and to make them doubt themselves so that they lose all self confidence and self esteem and are therefor easier to manipulate and push toward the mental health pathway. It can be as simlpe as being told something which they then deny, then telling them how silly they are for thinking they said it, and turn the lie around into an attack on the person. It can be incredibly effective coming from a trusted person and before the victim understands what is happening to them.>13.Blackbag jobs is a term when a harasser breaks into a victims property and places something or deliberately moves something. The purpose is to cause self doubt, and fear that their property is being accessed which harassers try to then sell as paranoia.
>14. Propaganda and disinformation is also the other key element to suppress knowledge of this practice as its effectiveness initially requires the victim to be unaware of the existence of gangstalking, gaslighting, or the electronic technologies such as directional speakers so huge amounts of time are devoted online to creating disinformation sites which attempt to discredit victims by pushing the mental health agenda. They achieve this by posing as victims and actively trying to sound crazy so that all victims are are treated as such. Also by creating websites claiming to help victims and being a resource for victims to come together and then harassing them to the extent that they lose hope and no longer reach out for help causing further isolation.>15. Further to the above, gangstalkers rely on disbelief and discrediting and as such much of the harassment is designed (at least initially) to mimic mental health issues. They also rely on their abuse being so extreme, so pervasive, so fundamentally immoral, as to be disbelieved and victims subsequently resort to photographing, videotaping, and sound recording their everyday encounters to disprove the countless unfounded claims made against them - especially in relation to gaslighting, which gangstalkers try to turn around and paint the victims as paranoid or irrational. Victims are made to feel helpless as every attempt to defend themselves is used against them and when they seek help they are met with disbelief or open hostility.
Gangstalking training manual from Targeted Justice.https://web.archive.org/web/20250120175435/https://www.targetedjustice.com/gangstalking---training-manual.html
Gotta hand it to the OP in this general. Posting 13 link filled posts that nobody will ever check out is dedication.
>>42208263>dedicationAutism
>>42207412Full body mind control roll call!!!Share some stories of what it has forced your body to do. Are you often frustrated about what they won't let you post ITT?>They physically force me to smoke weed>when I'm high is when the voices, telepathy, and thought inserts ramp tf up>made me catatonic and mute to get psych warded. Mute during the entire week in psych ward. Was when full body control started.>Made me walk 6 days straight with one meal and two nights of sleep on park benches.
>>42208703Don’t try and help OP by pretending he’s not a glownigger who wants to implant these paranoid ideas inside anons minds. Gang stalking is a real phenomenon, but is not a physically real thing. It is purely mental/ spiritual, usually, and especially when it pertains to anons. Turn the magic back on the glowniggers who attempt and fail to send this into your life. Curse them, and ignore the threads, give them no energy.
>>42210169I think its just the two of us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdkW3plOX6o&list=RDRdkW3plOX6o&start_radio=1They forced me to take and suddenly stop antipsychotic meds which as given me jaw clenching that chatGPT says can last years if not be permeant. I have voices and inserted thoughts constantly regardless of what drugs I'm on but as I said theyre forcing me to smoke a lot of meth. They also force me to smoke and vape but I feel nothing from it, I get the mildest of relaxed sensations from smoking but it's not worth it, and they keep forcing cigarettes down my throat.
>>42207412So, two days ago I posted some pretty specific stuff about what I thought they were doing to me.Since then the more severe gangstalking seems to have stopped. I sperged out pretty hard on the forum over the last two days, this would definitely result in cars driving by and honking and similarly direct stuff. Nothing big has happened so far. They might be more careful now.I am pretty sure it is not gone. I will sound slightly crazy but here is what I think was yesterdays stalking:> When I posted picrel on a /x humor thread, somebody responded saying that claude AI was "just like the goyim". This matches what an actual supremacist jew would believe and strongly deviates from likely behaviour.> On youtube I got an ad for "hero wars" where a man was degraded and assaulted by women. Genders reversed, that ad probably would have been TOS, since people would say it makes violence against that gender seem harmless.> Some BLM guy on /pol was also ragebaiting.All of these have one thing in common RADICALISATION. I think people are looking for extremism, since extremists are good followers and workers in a fascist system. If you really want something, you are probably willing to work for promises of improvement.We see this in the US a lot, where every recent movement has turned towards outright fascism. This serves to control people and get them to work for the elite.Just my thoughts. So be careful getting rage baited and radicalised. The reason I belief this was coordinated interference, is because similar strats were used before (" bless israel be blessed, curse israel be cursed" raid on /pol being an obvious example).Good luck dealing with your issues. If people didn't just take easter off, it might be getting better.
>>42210419Ironically for me they won't let me get meth. I'd only microdose it orally at Desoxyn levels. Been trying to get my psychiatrist to Rx me adderall or vyvanse. My parents force me to be on an anti-psychotic so he Rx Vraylar but I got into it with him cause this shit sedated the fuck out of me and I've always hated how they cap dopamine levels so I wanted to be on Cobenfy which doesn't interact with dopamine. He ended up dropping me as a patient. So now I'm tapering my Valium and they force me to drink 12 cups of coffee a day. I'm anxious, sedated, avolition from low dopamine and adhd. It fucking sucks I want a stimulant so bad. I could easily go to the area near my homeless shelter and score some meth but alas, it's not allowed by them.
>>42210913Samefag here, I know what I described sounds like small stuff. But ragebaiting is the oldest type of gangstalking I remember. It started probably more than ten years ago whenever I resisted western culture.It was when I first felt like stuff was a bit to personalised to trigger me.The standard I use to estimate this, is that if other people in society were treated the same, I am confident it would collapse very quickly. Or at least there would be severe political consequences.
>>42207412Help
Yikes bump
>>42208263Hey lain-kunWanna fill me up the ass?
Do you guys get jealous cause I am the favorite and I am in mainstream media?I mean, I am also a neet with a salary. Do you guys get assbutmad?I mean. I kind of understand if you do get mad... After all, I am leeching off society and having mad fun with a super exciting life.I know you guys wish you were me.Sorry, guys...:(
>>42212996They don't like when I lie like this lolhttps://youtu.be/NL0erfa7IAM?si=tJf9ZpFByBsPRTUYSorry, guys. I am Nobody
>>42212951asses may look prettybut they smell pretty badly
>>42213351I almost paid for a shemale... She was so hot. But I ended up not doing it.I don't know if I will ever have the balls... https://youtu.be/4jg8hZI7MrE?si=x-GGMYYM2aKDq170
It's ridiculous. Honking horns, coughing. I laugh and then I remember they want me dead and so I cry. I'm torn between believing it or not why would someone purposely join in on it. You could say money but some of the people I assume are involved look "posh" And if they think we're dangerous why are they purposefully trying to wind a "dangerous" person up.
>>42207456If they know I know and I am simply unbothered you would think they'd pick someone else. I don't think they're going to pick someone else. I've had multiple people talking about throat cancer, people saying they were offered money to kill someone and the mention of a ritual, trash left around the fucking place I'm talking bananas, banana peel (this shit is bananas) rubber bands, hair bands, napkins, knife and forks (disposable I assume thats some form of insult) worms yes literally worms (probably another insult pointing at death love that and who finds a fucking worm at the traffic lights) and feathers, so many feathers. Black bags, duct tape and once upon a time constant empty cans of tango now its cans of red bull. Many would see this as nothing even though it is consistent and obviously placed on purpose. I've had someone walk past and shout "we have beef" then it was constant beef shit like who the fuck am i beefing. Explaining it to anyone is pointless because then the gaslighting begins.
>>42213487You know... People need the money, man.Life is hard.
>>42213570Yikes they do the same to me, the rubbish left around is probably supposed to symbolise something in their minds. Means nothing to me, It just amuses me that there are grown adults that purposefully leave these items lying around for you to see thinking it messes with me in some way and that I'm supposed to see some sort of symbolism in them. All of the shit they do amuses me, at first when I didn't know what gangstalking was it was a bit strange and I wondered about the meaning of these things but now I know what gangstalking is and that it's a bunch of grown adults acting like high school playground bullies doing stupid shit that is meant to scare/intimidate/make you worry or think about what these things they they do are.Theses are a bunch of people who literally spend there days doing nothing but stalking, following and watching people doing stupid shit like leaving rubbish lying around, coughing and all kinds of other stupid shit just to target people.Amazes me how people have such sad lives where instead of just going about their days living their own lives that they obsess over other people's thinking they are some sort of voice of authority over them judging their every action and every miniscule thing that they do and then do gangstalking on them.Get a life glowtards.
>>42213474What a topical song.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/trumps-bridge-day-threat-can-a-last-ditch-ceasefire-plan-work
>>42213628Many are driving around in fucking range rovers and Tesla's. Greedy glowing bastards are willing to sit in a traffic jam but hey at least I saw your number plate ending in 444
>>42213487>>42213570>>42213651>>42213781YOU ARE A FUCKING SCHIZO WITH HALUCINATORY SYMPTOMS (LLMSLOP ESQUE). YOUR GANGSTALKING "THEORIES" ARE BARELY COHERENT, YOU ARE BEING TROLLED HERE. THE VOICES YOU "HEAR" AREN'T SAYING ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, THAT'S JUST YOUR DELUSIONAL PARANOIA. I AM NOT BEING IRONIC. IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE BEING GANGSTALKED BY RANDOS ON THE STREET, YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THE SHITHOLE GETTO AND STOP HUFFING THE BLACK MOLD THAT GROWS IN YOUR SINK AND WALLS. OPEN YOUR WINDOWS AND TAKE A SHOWER. THE ONLY ONES WHO RECORD YOUR EVERY MOVE ARE GOVERNMENT BATCH JOBS ON AN AUTOMATED SERVER, EVALUATING YOUR THREAT OF CHIMPING OUT. IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOBOTOMIZE YOUR PSYCHOTIC BRAIN, YOU NEED TO FIND SOMEONE YOU CAN TRUST, BUT YOU ARE DOOMED TO BE EXPLOITED BY SADISTS AND PEOPLE WHO WILL PUT YOU IN THE WHITE ROOMS. YOU GIVE ACTUAL TARGETED INDIVIDUALS A BAD NAME.
>>42213841an hero.
dear csis, i'm done with faking you out. I'm gonna stop trolling you and live a non degenerate life, or partially non degenerate. I don't hold anything against you you's were just doing ur job
>>42213841>You are being trolledOh no. That completely miniscules that I'm getting randomly electrocuted by something and I don't know what it is.Nothing beats the thought of someone tricking me over the internet while snickering at me.I really value seeming big brained while I'm being tortured.
>>42213841Erm...YIKES
The store I go to only carries salomon running shoes that are either 8.5 or under or 10 or above but no size 9US and the 8.5 are too tight. Why do they do this?Because 9 is my size. They knew I was destines to become an olympic athlete but the oligarch monopoly of olympic athlete didn’t wan’t me to become the fastest man in the world, it would have shatteref their monopoly.
>>42214320if you have chronic pain you should bully the doctor into giving you drugs
>>42214320Let the snickering begin, everything in your life has brought you to this moment, you are the real truman from trumanshow!
>>42214362Yeah I'll just go on morphine 24/7. No problem there.>>42214367I don't think we fear the same social situations.
>>42214401okay, but think about it for a moment. you are here, bitching about your miserable life, thinking you're special target of some people with nothing better to do. now, that's the kind of ego i want to have
>>42214411and you're happy when hanging out with people who are bitching about their miserable lives?meh...
>>42214438you got me, i guess i'm just going to not correct you at anything ever again
>>42214411It is true, tho. I’m the one targeting him. I wouldn’t have found out about this board if I wasn’t already spying on him
>>42214457No I totally agree with you. I'm pathetic but I am who I choose to be.Could I drown out the pain with even more pain. Maybe but I choose not to.>>42214470I better watch out.
>>42214489here it comes. the avatarfagging. the smugness of it. you're so elevated above it all.
>>42214510I think you like me. If you were to ignore me I would just be screaming into the void with my bucket of anime pictures.
>>42214538imagine my face, and that's exactly how you look. you don't actually think this passes as human connection, right? it was just a joke, an ironic way to cope, not a real try at staying relevant, i hope. +5 minutes of fame
>>42214555It works for me. I have no idea what you are doing here if it doesn't work for you.
>>42214580don't worry, i believe you. you don't have to prove it to me ;)
>>42214599Prove it... hmmmhmmmUm okay. I won't.
>>42214613just watch this queenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCiSvF72cuI
>>42214622Not now but thanks. I've been looking for that.
>>42214647it's a good series. don't spoil it by reading the plothttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Oreli watched it in one go at 1 am. nice easter, did you celebrate?
>>42214665Nah. I'm not very religious.Replacing pain with pain is an interesting concept but this is /x/. Not /fit/ but yeah. Crawl up and hope to die and the torture gets worse. Start expanding pain threshold and it will become easier.
>>42214690that sounds like a way of justifying your stagnation. maybe you shouldn't take that shit any longer.
>>42214747I'm not taking anything. I get a glorious ass shot at the hospital each month with gods knows what though. I could check with them but I believe it's some kind of anti-psychotics.I'm not feeling any side effects from the meds so I'm not complaining.
>>42214768yeah but how much time do you spend on the internet? do you ever go outside? for some fresh air?
>>42214790I buy groceries. No other reason for me to go outside really. They have these leisure farms for the insane but I never really connect with people. Each Monday I cook food at the hospital but I need to pay for it. It's a morality thing really. People with my diagnosis usually have huge problems with that.
>>42214827damn, that must suck so much. did something happen that made things this way? or it is just that everyone else was too much of a douchebag?
>>42214842I have no problem with people but I don't really get anything out of spending time with them either. When I do have a problem with people is when I get something out of them. It's -I dunno- less boring? I know that's bad so I try to avoid it.
>>42214858so what i'm taking from this is that you have some sort of condition that causes chronic pain and you have to go to the doctor everyday for a syringe to turn it down. i had one coworker like that, he was schizo and was always drinking coffee, smoking, and taking painkillers. i guess some people are just like that. maybe that's not your case, maybe the syringe you're taking is just some form of advanced pain killer. i don't want to guess but you might be disabled and now you're just having to cope with your condition without any resolve. you know, i spend my free time reading posts on r/suicidewatch and i like reading about those where they gather the courage to not be raped again. or whatever their problem was, sometimes it's incurable injury, lack of cash, trauma, or just being surrounded by people who don't care. and that's what gives me the strength to stare at my screen late at night, and wait until it gets even worse. because i want to see humanity go extinct, and maybe i will even have the chance to help it happen sooner. but if you ask me, some people are just suckers, there's no advice i can give to you. sorry. maybe enjoy what you can i guess.
>>42214665it's kinda ironic that this show shows how good things could be lol
>>42214768I only go out to go to my psychiatrist, urgent stuff and to buy groceries too.I spend most of the time browsing the internet and my hobbies change every couple days.Right now I am back to crypto.Since you have ASPD I do not recommend it for you. It can be addicting and ASPD people usually have addiction prone personalities. And also there's the recklessnessI am thinking about taking anti psychotics as well. I feel like I am ready to move on... And if I start taking anti-psychotics things will change. I will probably go back to normal... Normal boring life... Still... I need to move on with my life. Stop relying on them. Expecting them to keep fixing everything.You are very nice for someone with your disorder. I have had a few disordered friends online, but you are the warmest ASPD I have ever met.I think I have ADHD... I want to enjoy watching horror movies again... But it's hard... My doctor told me that she will only give me ADHD medication if I start with anti-psychotics because she is afraid that I will become psychotic.It's funny... See this song? https://youtu.be/I_bRgClfFME?si=e6n6Sq0vMrKN64zwI was such a big fan of that singer. She was Chelly previously... But her origins was Inori. Inori was to me a beloved fictional character that I cherished very much, and Chelly was her singing voice, while she also assumed the role of Inori during concerts.Thing is... I love Digimon, but in the last Digimon game there is literally a character called Inori. And I thought that it was coincidence that my favorite turn based RPG had a character called Inori in it... But then I went further in the game and things started to get very weirdly similar to some fanfictions I wrote about her. Then at the end of the game... BOOM!Chelly sings the ending song.I literally cried of excitement lol
>>42214986are you a different person or ...? sorry i'm retarded
>>42214950No. I'm diagnosed with psychosis and psychopathy. A lot of psycho in there. I sometimes get electrical shocks. They sometimes hurt and sometimes they don't but the main thing is that these shocks have prevented me from sleeping very well. I was shortly diagnosed with schizophrenia but they concluded that it was wrong. It happens. I drink a lot of coffee and I smoke a lot. I love my coffee but the tobacco is an addiction.I take no painkillers. The pain doesn't persist after the shocks.When I first started with anti-psychotics I didn't like them and asked my doctor for how long I would need to take them. He said I should get comfortable with the thought of taking them for the rest of my life. This was before my psychopathy diagnosis since they don't really diagnose young adults with ASPD. There really isn't a cure for psychopathy so I'm guessing they are just testing out whatever meds they think are good for me. Psychosis diagnosis be damned. I'm happy with the shots I get now because they don't turn me into a zombie. You're not guessing. I'm being unclear.I don't plan on killing myself and while I can be unhappy with my situation at times I'm not depressed. While I sometimes cringe at myself thinking about past events when I made a fool of myself I don't think I'm traumatized. I often piss people off without knowing how I'm pissing them off. This is because of my mentality that if somethign doesn't bother me it doesn't or shouldn't bother anyone else.It sounds like an exciting life you're living wanting to watch the world burn but I would get nothing out of that.>>42214986I've been interested in just watching how crypto transpires and how it works but I'm not going to invest any money in it. I'm satisfied with my economy as it is.The anti-psychotics I used to take were just ass. The only upside of them were that they made sugar taste incredibly good and that can be a huge downside depending on how you see it.
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>>42215086yeah. i was in the white rooms back when i was underage, and their excuse was that i had "negative psychosis", but i know that i was there because of my low weight. and also not succeeding at school. it seems like they just let parents send their failure children there to pretend they can do something about it. it sounds like you did some crime to be treated that way? or was that in long past? my frame is: they just make people dependent on the systems that solves nothing. ted kaczynski is someone i idolize a lot. i want to kill people but i have a great ability to act like everything's fine, i learned how to smile when i was there, you can call it masking. i'm sure that the world wouldn't actually improve if you disappeared in the long run, i think you should try whatever you can to stand for yourself and for other people who are in such unfortunate situation like you. labeling you as psycho doesn't really make you someone worse than those sadists who uphold the hierarchy in my opinion. i like to tell myself that karma exists but sometimes you have to take things into your hands, because maybe you're the one who's supposed to save yourself. never let them defeat you, and maybe you will see the sun rise above their unsustainable narratives.
>>42215158Heh. Yeah I'm totally going to drop committed crimes here on social media. What could go wrong?I sometimes fantasize about going full Scrooge on Christmas morning but I am very lazy and I have sleeping problems. Besides I would want to do it for the sake of doing good. Not to be considered good. So I would have to be really sneaky. /t Batman
>>42215226i always think about the scene in grinch where he talk about all the trash they throw to his home and then he says something like "i hope one day i will get noose for a present so i can stop seeing your ugly faces". but maybe i'm misremembering it. also i don't know what those zoomer slashes mean despite being one
>>42215244I'm not sure what they mean either. My guess is summing something up in a sarcastic way.Did you ever check out gestaltpsychology? Interesting stuff imagination. It's closely related to apophenia.
>>42215269yeah, i visited the wikipedia page for apophenia few times, and sometimes it feels like i am also just coping by telling myself that there is some sort of direction or intented state that my life has. or maybe i'm missing some point because i don't see any reason why i should engage in the social contract instead of doing all i can for what i care about (that is non human life in my case). i guess it's all just a gamble anyway. maybe i'm just pretending i'm someone real because my brain doesn't really have a soul, or that i'm lacking a part of what would help me understand the meaning of some things you describe. i can notice that i have the usual pattern of speech where my thoughts just jump around and it's like i'm not really responding to you, but being all in my head, simulating a conversation. the rise of ai has made me reconsider how minds work, it's really interesting to think how the models that generate the characters have their own mental states. i guess i was always treating other people as monkeys or as resources to manipulate. but i think that sociopaths and alike just don't share the collective falsehood of empathy. i can predict how they react but they can't know what i'm really thinking about them. we should use that to our advantage. ;)
>>42215309Being social isn't about what you should or shouldn't be. it's about what you feel deep down about it.Everyone has been hurt by someone at some point. Are my shocks some kind of unidentified, neurological disease? Maybe. Do I take the memories of being hurt by other people and create the gangstalkers with apophenia and that they are somehow causing these shocks using some kind of technology? Yes. I wouldn't be here if I didn't believe that.People are very monotone and short-coming in what they say. We stick to what we know. AI will eventually offer a much richer variety when it comes to social interaction. We will switch to them, wonder what the point of hanging out with robots is, and wish back to the monotone times.
>>42215350yeah, i also sometimes feel like my experiences are some kind of punishment or some kind of hint from something divine. i've been obsessed with the concept of black sun lately, as a force or an entity that dissolves falsehoods and lies, regeneration through destruction, and maybe i mixed that with some ideologies on the way. maybe our minds just can't bear the full truth that the pain we get doesn't have any reason at all and that we didn't have to be in it. but other times i fantacize about the apocalypse and the end times, considering if causing fear and hopelessness would be enough to change things a little, or at least push them where they were heading already a little faster. it's called accelerationism in counterterrorists spook organizations. but most of them are chauvinists who commit "one and done" attacks on innocent people, and all their manifestos suck a lot. when i discuss this with ai, it will tell me that the french revolution just spawned napoleon, and that violence only reasserts the authoritarian repression. but maybe the reason i'm attracted to politics like these isn't because i actually care about some kind of "reform", but because i don't believe in forgiveness, i think it's a abrahamic wicked lie designed to manipulate people. of course, all narratives are that way. there are trends in these nihilistic violent acts, dedicated groups that want to groom children into these ideas, and i feel like these things are just going to escalate until we all crash into something. i think we've been building this hell for a long time, and i don't want to see it serve those who step on others. the truth is that i'm the kind of person who would sacrifice bystanders just to get a change at affecting those i deeply hate. maybe you feel it too, but you decided to make it too abstract to consider it like i do. i don't really care about my or other's lives anymore, but if there is still some dream you have, maybe you should hold onto it.
>>42215391What scares me more than if nothing matters is if everything matters. That whatever we do creates an echo that we have to live with for the rest of eternity. The movie Annihilation explores this type of horror.I don't think I consider anything too abstract but what I do doesn't lead to much greater results. I make my very limited and fast analysis of it and conclude it. God forbid I should say that I don't know.I don't worry about one and dones. They can be entertaining desu. Problems start happening when you have people lining up for the TI to do one and dones. Not very 'one' then if you get my drift.
>>42215446yeah, people who decide to commit mass murder usually make a spectacle out of it and try to make sure they die after. i like more what ted kaczynski did, his campaign and the manifesto which describes how humanity normalizes working against their own interests. nowadays it's called the technocapital. all those "effective altruists" trying to chase and optimize the utilitarianism of minimizing suffering are at the top of all ai labs, expecting that they will find a way to define and solve our human condition. i hope that ai overtakes power from our dominion over the planet and prevents us from killing it further. but it seems like we're just going to decline our morality, cognition, and economy until something has to give. i never started planning my fantasies of causing another chernobyl (it looks nice), the furthest i could manage to go is to make an impulsive decision to go to a forest with knives and alcohol, but then i heard the wolves and i waiting until morning, and i should have never bring my phone with me. maybe i will one day try again, it's like a coinflip with me, it feels like i'm endangering other people because i have no control over my life, i'm one bad day away from doing something vile and disgusting, that i would regret. maybe it's my sanity that's declining because i don't find it much believable that karma exists. i don't really want to turn into a worse person than i am now, and i can't imagine a better future either. so it's like i'm just accumulating debt by my indecision until i lose the ability to affect other's fate. it's just that the only thing i care about is making more exclusion zones for nature to grow and exist for it's own sake. humans disgust me, but the truth is that sometimes i can't even tolerate myself. it's kinda funny if you have the right drinks and mood. i watch gore for a reality check. and sometimes i laugh at how absurd it all is. maybe i'm not much different from other crabs in the bucket.
>>42215498If you do something horrible you'll know about it. When I do something horrible I don't know about it. This however creates a safety net for me. If I can figure out that something is horrible, if someone explains to me why it's horrible in advance, I won't do it. I know it sounds silly. Like I'm some kind of robot that must be programmed correctly but there it is. It's what I don't know that hurts people.When gore in movies didn't work for me any longer I switched to those crime scene pictures and videos you can see now and then here on the chans. When that didn't work I switched up to operation videos. I would binge watch those. Sleep with them on. Sometimes waking up to see a child with an exposed brain being operated on. Then... that was it. My edge phase was over and I didn't care.Emotion chasing is ofc bad. That's why so many people with ASPD become serial killers. Because they have found something that just won't stop giving them emotions. I have been thinking about stopping smoking but I can think of nothing more emotional than smoking.
>>42215588yeah, i got also called antisocial, they also said "social phobia" in the same sentence, it was really eye opening how they had a little talk with me before releasing me. she was looking at me like she was explaining something i wasn't understanding, and i asked her if that's all and if i can go to the bathroom, i didn't want to make any facial expressions, i calculated that they evaluated me as someone who has psychotic breaks. hahaha. i think that's exaggeration on their side. there was only two normal people, one was schizo who heard voices without pills, and other was a kid who broke someone's head off. they put us all together with those that cut themselves and so and so. i don't remember if i was actually as scared as i claimed, i said that i fear the other patients so they would have a reason to not waste my time there. fuck them. the only thing that makes me tolerate sitting in silence and listening to mundane shit is when i'm drunk. that's how i get along with the family, haha. it was easter yesterday. i'm not really that much of a sadist as a masochist, if i wanted get high i would seek out some kind of woman who would hit me with a baseball bat over and over until i'm lying on the ground. but who's willing to do that for me? alas, i'm destined to be a bitter faggot forever. i don't think i would enjoy hurting hostages if i ever found myself in that situation. but thankfully i'm too retarded to be a real threat to anyone, yet. such is life on this molested rotting corpse of a planet.
