Can somebody tell me what the fuck is going on? Why does everything seem to turn on its head? How does a militant atheist turn into a chaos magician that dishes out an introduction to the law of attraction? Is the world getting crazier because more and more people are trying to manifest their own perfect world? Holy shit I've been missing out.
him being a militant atheist should tell you all you need to knowi am not surprised that he would promote 'chaos magick'
one sad thing about growing up is how defiled and senile everyone around you slowly begins to look
>>42237418Seething noahide. Magick is the most rational thing one can do.
oh god its candlewax dick lmao
>>42237391desu, most modern atheist are more about following your own gut, on what they seem makes sence, unless they are redditors.so them, not really seeming principled, is kind of part of the thing.
>>42237447It's just aging naturally. Happens to the best of us.
>>42237391>Why does everything seem to turn on its head? How does a militant atheist turn into a chaos magician that dishes out an introduction to the law of attraction?Because is real and atheistic materialism is a useless dead end. Chaos Magick and LoA are as well, but is at least a start towards the right direction.
>>42237391chaos magic is a gateway drug for anti-woowoo types who prefer an objective, analytical, evidence, repeatable, and above all else, sanitized understanding of the exact same thing all the other magic systems are looking at. the big problem with chaos magic is, and you'll see the is in all the flak I got here>>42209449for explaining the fundamental axiom of chaos magic, and all other systems too, being the potency of belief rather than the truth of it. in chaos magic, it emphasizes that to the point of arbitrariness which is adjacent to familiar concepts the person has of science and math with their objective and nonhuman view. to them, it would be similar to fundamental physics compared to chemistry as we could also compare chaos magic in the micro view to other systems in the macro view. either way, chaos magic looks towards synchronicities more than other magic systems. it also has more explanatory power towards how these systems work, especially when a good study path requires studying all known magic systems and performing a comparative analysis between them, similar to how some people settle on a religion after surveying all the others. they take what is novel to a magic system just as often as they take what is common between magic systems, both having unique and useful aspects.the thing I like about it the most is that it aims to understand the underlying concepts in this reality, and when done correctly, also aims to understand how and why other conscious entities, when living in the same reality, express their understanding differently with similar endpoint results. I'll talk all fuckin day about chaos magic until someone shuts me up.
Masturbating to lesbian pornCalls it chaos sex magicGalactic federation was here
>>42238112also, about the semen sigils thing. that's usually the first thing people learn, especially when the cruise wiki about it and find out Spare sort of started that with his study of essential fluids, intent focusing, and other standard stuff since the old days. the thing is, you would think that the intent focusing of all the gooners in the world would then cause a reciprocal synchronicity balance in the universe to send those guys some insatiable soul mate sluts after tuggin the slug for so long. hell, all they would need to do is goon for a few days with some poor woman's name written on a piece of paper, except all the letters are smashed together in one piece.probably a good idea to burn it when the ritual is complete to keep her from finding it. or not, maybe you get a freak. the thing is, I can attest that cumjar-ing your semen in a sealed glass container with SDA 40B ethanolhttps://simplesolvents.com/product/sda-40b-specially-denatured-alcohol/as the solvent, it will extract and store your pheromones into a settled mass in the bottom. also wearing a pair of underwear and undershirt for a few weeks (keep that asshole clean) while using cologne bathing instead of water bathing, and then washing that clothing in SDA 40B (or grain alcohol for plebs) will also extract more skin pheromones and other scent compounds.wearing that in public gets immediate and undeinable responses from ovulating women and gay men. you can understand why the alchemists would've figured something supernatural is going on there. I have some brewing right now.
>>42237504Shoving a banana up ones anus is peak chaos magic.
>>42237391>Can somebody tell me what the fuck is going on? Why does everything seem to turn on its head?We live in clown world. That and most self professed "atheists" aren't really atheists at all.
>>42238112Is there a system you would describe as being the opposite in terms of appealing to atheistic types? For instance, I have a traditional religious background, but don't have some of the 'daddy issues' I see from others who talk about their upbringing, mainly because I was raised a lapsed Catholic, but chose to reengage with it on my own later, and did so intensely, before eventually coming to the occult, mainly from a state of 'spiritual desolation'. I also seem to be constantly fascinated by the subject of demonolatry and Goetia, maybe because in my subconscious these things represent the ultimate heresy, and reconciling them represents a crowning of my path. I like systems and engaging with tradition, rather than totally going it alone. I like hierarchy, grandiosity, aristocracy things that seem culturally distanced from in a system like chaos magic.
He's not a full chaos magician. He thinks it's just a mind hack which primes his reticular activating system to spot opportunities and act on them. He doesn't realize you can use it to cause changes outside your physical intervention as well.
he is probably going through the cycle most people go through at different ages>atheism>if atheism then what matters most is fullfilling my desires and getting mine>if what matters most is fullfilling my desires I should maximize that>self help and science based methods aren't enough to push the needle>try thelema/magic/manifestation redeemed path:>holy shit manifestation/thelema/magic works ! but it's also fucking up my life in mysterious ways, I need a more solid spiritual system that isn't just about goals or money>basic spirituality, practices, meditations, being a good person, being grateful>then rituals, traditions>then polytheism>then realizes there is no unifying principle in polytheism, like the many gods are just constantly lying and tricking with contradicting philosophies, look for the unified principle>monotheism>look at islam, laugh at how stupid it's core principles are>look at judaism, see how fucked up and evil it is>oh... maybe Christ is the one true god and saviourevil path>holy shit manifestation/thelema/magic works ! I want more! I want it harder and faster, I will do anything!>devil worship, betrayal, selling your soul for worldly gain, doubling down on your bullshit>satan is the one true god
>>42237391TJ is an interesting figure. I hate almost everything he has to say and I don't think people are capable of being impartial but as someone who talked to him directly circa 2008 or so there IS a strange energy around him. I know he's fallen by the wayside (seriousily why the FUCK are Christcucks STILL seething about this guy?) but there's a certain magic around him I've only seen in individuals like Alan Moore/Grant Morrison. It's a bygone zeitgeist but some of you know what I mean and in this age of ideological moralfag puritan zealots who knows maybe there's some social currency left. After all most of George Carlins fans were politically aware during the GWB era not his peak.I still like TJ. 2006 era YT was a different time. It's hard to explain the "secular" energy for those at the time but the atheism and libertarianism were necessary
>>42240130I remember I said I liked him to a friend when I was in school, and he brought up the banana thing, which I didn't know anything about. For the life of me I can't remember what I watched or why I liked him, Mr. Repzion was another one, but like you said there was an energy in the atheism of that time. Maybe like how socialism could be considered the 'language of revolution' at one point in history, cultures who weren't even really socialist were just adopting the system because they wanted to break free from the existing regime. Maybe internet atheism and that kind of gamer liberalism of the early 2000's was the 'Marxism' of the true cultural rebellion of that time, like how reactionary politics or even looksmaxing is now. The Looksmaxers of today are the spiritual successors of the atheist gamerbros, they are moving the wheel forward, to the next stage.
>>42238116powerful
>>42237391Youtube "influencers" don't believe in anything except what they think will give them views. They are professional attention whores, and the only people who want to become one are lifestyle attention whores.
>>42239941>atheist>is there a system>a bunch of stuff about being around catholics and it in your bloodsame anon. think about what you are describing here... imagine a heredity chart such that the most ancient religions we know of are at the trunk, and even below that some form of proto religions for the sake of the metaphor. that chart would contain the sum total limit of human thought towards the mysterium tremendumhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numinouswhich resulted in all the religions we know and forgotten. you could sort them by calendar time, complexity, common themes, whatever. its a metaphor. all the demonaltry and Goetia stuff is, by definition, a sub-branch and always is in whatever reconfiguration of the data as a branch of theism, specifically most often Abrahamism even when taking into account the proto religions used to frankenstein that monster together. since we are in a chaos magic thread, maybe entertain my look at it. we are all conscious entities to different degrees. from the ayylmaos to a few of the demons/fallen angels/whatevers I would like to meet, that at some infinitesimal we are identical. that implies some structure such that we are possibly a simpler entity than say Leviathan or whatever other mythic/religious/DMT creature you can imagine. whatever the ultimate truth of reality, they are in it just as much as us. they might know more, but not all. compared to the totality, we are all equals.so, to answer your question with that, do what I mentioned above and all the ones before us said to do about surveying all the other systems. you'll see the underlying structure right away. you could call it atheist in the sense you can call a helicopter nonhuman. a human made it, but it is non human. all you end up doing is changing the word.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiosissame underlying nonlinguistic concepts, different semiosis into thoughts, words, and then action.
>>42239941>>42240461>infinitesimalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uREbbAEvAXwdeeeeep in that video is a mention about how Newton went about his study of the same thing you and I are looking at, this reality.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton%27s_occult_studiesone of the things he settled on, no surprise, was the infinitesimal. for us, we have familiar territory in picrel where analyzing items from the micro to the macro. for Newton, since the bulk of his research was related to mathematical infinitesimals, which are the continuous version of discrete integers. recall how Pythagoras decided that fractions and numbers between discete integers did not exist, which is fine, and then continuous numbers like 1/3 or pi 3.1415926535 which are built from infinitesimals in the same way the number 761 is built from a pile of integers, unary "its" in the same sense we have binary "bits" or decimal "digits". the tally mark system is unary.what's this about then? for Newton, when you read all he read and wrote, especially when you start to think about the structure of conscisousness in the same sense of picrel. the "level" of thought we are communicating at right now is biological linguistics, and at some point "down" we have more primitive, simpler, body functions, etc... for him, the infinitesimal, from a spiritual/mystic/religious point of view was similar to what we would say as a Plack particlehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_unitswhich, when comparing Planck scale things/its against quantum scale things/its, it is like a grain of sand (planck stuff) against a galaxy (quantum stuff). he wanted to understand what is the fundamental matter of the nonmaterial. when he studied it, he semiotized it into a mathematical description, while others would semiotize it into a religion, or a myth, etc...
>>42239941>>42240479>while others would semiotize it into awarning ads as fuck. open in a fresh copy of tor of sanitationhttps://enderverse.fandom.com/wiki/Philotehttps://enderverse.fandom.com/wiki/Ai%C3%BAaOrson Scott Card came up with a similar concept of an spiritual/mathematical infinitesimal in the same sense as a fundamental building block of a spirit/soul/consciousness/whatever which then builds up into spirit/soul/consciousness/whatever molecules which is then associated somehow eventually with are meatbags we walk and talk in. looking at it that way, all those Goetia entities, real or not, are built of the same fundamental thought/spirit/soul/whatever particles at their own version of the Planck scale. the little its and bits of your soul are made from the same fundamental stuff as them, just stacked and rearranged differently. his audiobooks have a better description of his overall concept, but it boils down to some sort of soul reservoir for all of reality and we sort of go in and out of there forever or somesuch, still ultimately disconnected from some pataphysical layer above metaphysics.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Pataphysicshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysicsfor me, there are religions, metareligions, and patareligions. at the most micro scale, philotes/semiotes/aiua/etc.. build upwards into individual thinking entities like us which form religions to spawn egregores which themselves organize and coalesce into metareligions and patareligions. at all scales, the same fundamental magic mechanisms operate and apply in the same sense there exists a unified theory of physics whether or not we know it fully.
>>42240510>philotes/semiotes/aiua/etc.. build upwards into individual thinking entitieshttps://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/45b1774e4ba77similar concept in the sophont. all those Goetia entities and other such you want to interact with are all sophonts, same as you. don't let them tell you otherwise.
>>42240167Banana thing?
>>42237391Believe in the power of change bro. I used to literally win souls over to Christ dude. Now ima literal anti-religion, new age spiritual guide that would never in a million years tell someone they have to believe in Jesus Christ to be saved. Everything I do now goes completely against what I used to do but I didn't know any better. I truly believed in religion and jesus whole heartedly. I read the bible everyday, I fasted, I tithed, I tried to stop from sinning, and im talking as a teenager bro, but I realized I was being lied to. I realized that large parts of what I believed in was man made and just didn't make sense in today's world. I used to get mad if anyone would even put a cup or another book on top of a bible. I've won souls over to Christ. And now I bring souls away from religion. It's life. It's my purpose. You don't realize what's going on until you can look at it in retrospect. Everything he was doing before was setting him up for what he does now. The real work. Not some scammy, outdated, archaic religious bullcrap.
>>42239990>>then realizes there is no unifying principle in polytheism, like the many gods are just constantly lying and tricking with contradicting philosophies, look for the unified principleit is true that the gods all have different wants and requirements, but there is still one through-line; respect. you can respect one god but focus your worship on another. this is how i work with the spirits, i have one that i align with most, but i respect the others as individual autonomous entitiesin short; its possible to primarily focus on the principles of one god while recognizing and respecting the others>>holy shit manifestation/thelema/magic works ! I want more! I want it harder and faster, I will do anything!i find these sorts of pagans distasteful. they prioritize the gains over their relationship with the gods. the gods are generous, but that isn't reason to treat them as a means to an end, and i wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with those people. as above, so below, and vice versa
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>>42239990Or see parts as a slave religion/crossed with a temple archive loss and the rest is mysticism and then break through that by debate.It get's interesting the more you look, for example during their babylon enslavement they saw neph/annuak that were 7 different genders and recorded it those annuak/neph descendants are the kids that are becoming trans(I'm part gnostic jew and have strong revilement of all trans for that reason, they were our overbearing slave masters).
>>42237391I was like him. I was an atheist because I was skeptical and like to figure things out on my own, and since I wasn't from a religious background to begin with, atheism made the most sense until I slowly figured some things out on my own.He's just following his path to its most logical conclusion. I actually respect him for that.
>>42240130>It's a bygone zeitgeist but some of you know what I meanIt's unironically sexual deviancy. And I don't say that with disapproval. It's just what it is.Many porn actresses have it as well. Lola Fae comes to mind. Try to find some interviews of hers.I think it was her that I saw with some intriguing tattoos I had to look up that pointed me in that direction.
>>42241441True. I similarly respect Carl Benjamin's pro-Christian stance while remaining atheistic. He simply views Christianity as the proper tradition of the West.
>>42237391Atheism is a very good position to start from. It's a relatively clean mind, not contaminated by fake spirituality like christianity or islam. You can build on that easily just like he's doing.
>>42241689it really do be this way. build your spirituality from pure synchronicity, its way less convoluted or construed by rhetoric this way
>>42240130You are niggers arlans more mongrel thought asshole halderman enftein Nixon and Patrick jars buhanam and nasa hoax to reinforce Apollo global Management I debunked all their rfking trash
>>42237391I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped acid or something. I used to be a materialist atheist and then I did psychedelics and now I think that the only thing that exists is the mind of God/Brahman.
>>42237391chaos magic is a lame term for kicking the hornets nestthought creates reality to a pointas in you affect the worldevery single ripple sends out an effectunless God stops it.or alternatively amplifies itbecause he created it all and is omnipotentGod being the omnipotent being who made everything
>>42237391The veil is thinning.
I prefer to keep it scientific.
