is magic real?I read a really interesting thread on wand makingI want to learn what I can about this subject, I always felt like nature had a spirit to it, i feel like nature has always been kind to me. so maybe like nature focused magic?
>>42353055define magic
>>42353081I doubt magic like in Harry Potter is real, I think it more as of a spiritual subtle thing, like influencing the world around you to achieve a goal, like weighted dice but for the world
>>42353089Do you want to learn about it or do you want to practice it, different things
>>42353121both, I wish to learn so I may practice properly
>>42353136As you wish
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>>42353152>>42353157>>42353162>>42353167>>42353169>>42353173>>42353176>>42353179All of this, and I only recommend one practical book to starthttps://archive.org/details/QigongMeditation.EmbryonicBreathingByYangJwingMing/mode/1up
>>42353179thank you for this vast information where would you suggest starting?
>>42353089Influencing odds is babby time. I can literally predict what will happen. You don't believe enough. I have done things like set a tree on fire with my mind, manifested large objects and prevented accidents with my mind.
>>42353186>>42353185
>>42353192I see I see, is this ability innate in certain people or can it be acquired natively like in language?I had a premonition dream one time, thats the closest ive felt to magic besides feeling connected to the environment
>>42353204It depends what the origin of your soul is. If you're here to manifest wage slaving but you try to do magic as a side hustle that won't work because you're a fraud. Magic comes from your soul. It's purpose is to interfere with mundane reality.There is nothing stopping you from acquiring some stuff as a fraud but you probably won't understand it intuitively and you won't be motivated to get as far.
>>42353247I dont think im a fraud? im not in a pursuit of money if that's what you mean
>>42353271Everyone has an opinion for how the world should be. That is what indicates your soul origin and your soul manifest for why you're here.If that has nothing to do with magic then that is what I mean by fraud. For example manifesting tax accounting into the world.
>>42353328whats your soul origin
>>42353380Aether
>>42353380I manifest magic into the world. I see dinosaur stuff when I look at yours.
>>42353391what can I do with dinosaur magic
>>42353506Hmm shamanism? You can have an army of animal spirit familiars that heal and do stuff for you. Start taking a lot of psychedelics and talk to animal and plant spirits like south american shamans.
>>42353271Don't listen to this, OP. >>42353247 it's just a Jew pretending to be spiritually superior by birthright.
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>>42353247so basically become a homeless bum and hope for the best?
>>42354391I am beyond your understanding little bro. If I show you 1% of my power your conception of reality be destroyed.It's better for you to remain ignorant among the goycattle and to graze the fields.
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>>42353055>mention of wand makingthat is my current autistic hyperfixation until i get distracted by something else.i just wrapped up my favorite wands in whatever pretty colors i had available. but first i put wire wrapping on some of them, then the yarn over the wires so the wires couldn't snag or poke. and i fit some copper pipe things on a few. or tied steel paperclips to them and then yarned it over.but my big 2'8"x1" willow wand haad no wire wrapping but i'm giving it a fabric wrap, and now it's acting all companion cube like.i wonder how different my life could have been if ages ago i picked up this hobby. if i had a companion big chonk willow sticc several years back, things could have gone differently.
>>42355871btw my wands are made of TRUNKS, not lame ass limbs or shit i found on the ground. except i have a few waiting in the workshop. but they still have that vitality, so they'll be good to work with later whenever i get more materials. i really need some different metal wires and a bunch of yarn. hmmm where can i source those from...anyway conifer wands are hella rad but they take crazy amounts of really messy and intricate work for over a week, but it's a solid investment.my wands can beat up everyone. because they're solid units that won't break no matter how hard i swing them. but the yarned ones are pretty silent and don't make much noise when i hit things with them.
>>42354656show 0.9%, then
>>42355880>>42292104
magic is the moral product of action. some may ritualize parts of it, in fact we all do by our nature of maintaining habits, but it's implicit in everything we do. what's important is recognizing the things you do are of consequence and therefore act to make those consequences morally edifying.
>>42355949holy fuck this is dangerous>are you a truck driver?>no>its a metaphor>yes im a wanderer>i knew ithow does he do it
>>42353055magic comes in two forms language which is what you are doing right now and transmutation circles which is math.The third one comes only from the bible. So congrats you already know 1 kind and you know 2+2=4 so you know both forms of magic. athena the great yod heh vav heh
>>42353055The book of Exodus would say yes, but it's rather limited.
>>42356572Hmm yes very good point except for the fact that I can do this to you right now. The problem with doubties is that their astral bussies are very tender.
>>42357989Ok tell me the ibject i am thinking of
>>42357989Scared>>42358052
>>42358052Reading hostile people is pointless because you just deny or run away like that guy. Usually they go silent. But maybe I'll think about pulling out your whole life so we can all see what you do IRL for a laugh.
>>42358148Pull out the life you fag cuz u cant pull out the one object i am thinking abt and have to resort to something vague. Scared as predicted.
>>42357989Ok then do me please, I'm not him>>42358052
>>42358177Hmm lets see here... no job, not in school and you're a danger to everyone. Oh it's just a garden variety schizo. How boring.
>>42353055>is magick real? nobody knows lol If you ask any “normal” magician who is not retarded or infected with cognitive bias you’ll get the answer “idk man but I have seen some shit” which basically sums it up. Magick is pretty obviously real in terms of psychological impact and experience. Alan Moore said “if the gods exist anywhere, it is in the mind” and that’s 100% true. Your brain isn’t a blank slate, it comes with a bunch of pre-loaded systems that you have been evolving since you were in the caves. It’s just that a lot of those systems have faces and also philosophers have been debating for 2 thousand years as to whether or not the universe has those same faces. Most Magick is about the idea of balancing the things inside your mind with the things that exist outside of it and the idea is that in doing so you align with them and the world bends around you, which makes shit happen. I personally have seen some extremely fucking weird shit in my experience with magick but It could also very easily be regular ass human pattern recognition and it’s always important to acknowledge that unless you want a classic case of WIZARD MADNESS!!!!!!!!But if what you want is convincing, consider this. There’s a lot of evidence to suggest spirituality is an evolved, psychological trait, and literally everyone has it to some extent, it seems to be a genuine part of being human, so why not nab a jailbroken version of it? At worst you are engaging in an extremely useful psychological model that objectively has an impact on your psyche, and at best those psychological archetypes are actually mirroring macrocosmic forces that objectively exist externally to you. Magick will objectively have an impact on you, possibly even a good one. Whether or not it’s real is just window dressing.
>>42358246Correct, I have no job and i am not jn school. I am not a danger to anyone. Not a schizo, just open-minded and curious what schizos have to say. Nice try. About 50% correct, being generous. Well done.Here is the object you were predictably too scared to predict:42358069
Meant to be >>42358069 bruh
>>42358288>Yeah bro just recite pi from the astralI did look at the object but it didn't cohere to anything so I knew you weren't being genuine. That bullshit number is why.Do schizos know they are schizo? I don't think so.
>>42358341Was mant to be a link to my timestamped post of the object "green lamborghini" lol sorry
>>42358341hello can you answer me please?>>42358194
>>42358349Do I look like a schizo daycare employee?
>>42358349Answer this guy
>>42358360You said you can know what I'm thinking of, i ask you politely to tell me what i am thinking of, then you disresepct me?
>>42358341Not being able to cohere the green lamborghini sounds like a skill issue to me
>>42358367I should clarify, not me but you can know what people are thinking of? You said you don't read disrespectful people but i haven't said anything rude?
>>42358369You fucked it up by trying to be tricky. That's not my fault.I have already done this before.
>>42358405Failed guess= no screenshotSuccessful guess = screenshot
>>42358408pleb = doubt everything
>>42358405Lol, you understand that the people here are going to be critical and wont accept your vague ass response so you don't respond to >>42358052>>42358194 but instead post your reposes which links back to this lol>>42358408also this wasn't that hard lol, 4 chan is mostly full of anorexic kids or fat kids you had a 50 50 % chance to get it right
>>42358405There was no trick. I accidentally duped you because i mis-typed the link which caused you to reveal that you were unable to cohere anything... Which was fabricated by you after the fact when you thought my reveal was the number. I wont bother explaining the logic beyond this since i can tell youre seethig and cant think clearly. If you wanna try again, just say the word and i will make another timestamped post. My prediction: u wont cuz ure scared (i can read your mind, you cant)
>>42358367>>42358373Anon read me instead of posting other predictions, I promise on my life that I wont lie if you got it right,
>>42358417He did respond to my ibject and he failed to cohere anything by his own admission. With the retroactive cope that "i am tricky" (read as: he is too stupid to read my mind or even grasp the thought processes in my mind when i spell them out... After boasting that doubters are particularly easy to guess)
>>42358427Yea i know, I personally do believe in telepathy due to the parapsychology/psi research studies on the subject but I doubt some random on here who is only posting to feel good about himself can digitally read me mind thats why he is dogging so hard, this speaks many truths>>42358408
>>42358419Why are you making time stamped posts. Just put something in your mind you faggot.
>>42358456Because if he did do it, and the anon said he got it wrong then the reader would be like "Nuh uh, you changed it" or "you are lying to make me look bad". think before you post faggot
>>42358466I don't fucking care. I can read the reaction in your mind after anyway.Go ahead and put something in.
>>42358474ok done
>>42358456I put it in my mind. The reason why i additionally made a timestamped post shpuldn't be hard to guess. Especially for someone who can read minds. Shall we keep track of all your copes?>I am too dangerous for you>youre disrespectful>youre tricky>your number was unguessable (it qasnt a number nigga)>you didnt put it in your mindWhat else
>>42358481I saw a flamingo so I guess either that or something close related to it energetically.
>>42358474>>42358481Scared
>>42358509Completly wrong lol https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/534612894/pol-humo-thread#bottom>>534638167>ehh thread also a headphone case for /x/
>>42358509Holy fuck it was exactly a flamingo. You are living proof that magic exists
>>42358516i did it on poll just in case you tried to check through threads here
Lets do one more try. I won't make a timestamped post this time. Only focusing on it. It is an animal this ti.e good luck if you want to try
>>42358518Thank you for confirming my magic powers. I will now fly away.
>>42358528Ran away after being proven wrong XDDDAs expected
Flamingo isnt even an object btw
>>42358539Demon here, can you read my mind and tell me about my life before i became a demon? I cannot remember it anymore. Or maybe i never existed prior
>>42358564Not the same guy but i will try my best lol.looking at the diagram im getting a mix of Arabic and something like a crusader symbol. so you was probably involved with the crusades. as a crusader or an Arab? idkThis is my first time so don't take me seriously, also while doing it i just counted you as a aware entity if you was demon or not it didn't matter
>>42353055discordgg/7kMhrksaGT