I want to take up grappling.Should I learn BJJ or Judo?
Judo.
>>186607>Already know takedowns and throws from wrestling or similarDo BJJ>Want a complete (sans striking, unless you find a rare Combat Judo gym) unarmed combat systemDo Judo>Want to competeBJJ has more competitions outside of Japan
>>186607Do you want to do more groundwork or more standup? That’s the only question you need to ask.>>186614There’s plenty of judo competitions outside of Japan.
>>186607You have 3 options Judo, BJJ, WrestlingDo as much of all 3 as you can,Do all 3 for 3 months each at the end if that 9 months period make a choice.
>>186637Nowhere near as many as BJJ, but yeah you'll find competitions easily enough. It's more he'll get more and with a lower chance of having to travel to get to them with BJJ.
>>186607Do whichever has the more convenient gym for your specific situation.
>>186607>pic: literally who vs strongest judo competitor of his time
Why do people try to make antagonists of 2 sister arts?
>>186607Either is good, they're like two sides of the same coinJudo is mostly stand-up wrestling with limited ground wrestling; BJJ is mostly ground wrestling with limited stand-up wrestling
>>186644Based double dubs. This is the correct answer.
>>186644Yep. The biggest contributing factor to getting good is being close to your gym. Walking distance is ideal. Real life will regularly get in your way unless you're autistic hobo like BJ Penn and sleep at your gym.
>>186607Nogi BJJ. Less pajama washing, more wrestling. Depending on your gym they might offer multiple arts or have instructors come in. My gym has a wrestling guy train every few weeks.
>>186607Do you want something useful outside of 1v1 sportshit? Judo. Are you a faggot? BJJ. Simple as. But freestyle trounces both as you learn the same escapes you need to get away from fag shit & you learn takedowns/throws that are more utilitarian than judo. Shit ton of Judo shit won't work unless you have powerlifter levels of grip strength or your opponent/attacker is wearing sturdy clothes.
>>186607>>Want to compete>BJJ has more competitions outside of JapanIn Europe we have judo tournaments every week.
>>186644This.Train where you enjoy the training and actually show up.Ignore all those min maxer guys.
>>186757Hong Kong will never be part of Europe no matter how hard you want it.
>>186643This is only the case in America. Judo is a global sport that dwarfs BJJ everywhere outside the US and Rio.
>>186651I don't know man, I was about to ask the sameI normal do no-gi and wrestling till I do a nogi comp and switch to gi and judo after and switch back after I do a gi comp.
>>186844>Hong Kong will never be part of Europeis this Hong Kong hate? It was one of the place I have been to, great tea, I even visited a mma gym there it was nice.
>>186607You can go either one and still learn both all you need is mat space and willing partners
>>186607bjj, but use judo and wrestling to develop your standing game. judo is basically useless unless you can fight on the ground.
>>186607No gi is the way it has grown to include judo and wrestling(not at a high level).But nogi has a high focus on leglock, taking the back and standing back up instead of being in a bad position on the ground.It is also alot easier on cost for gear.>>186717This guy gets it
All that surgery and cross sex hormones and she still just looks like a potato
>>186607Left is present and future, right is dead and gone
>>186607BJJ without a doubt judo's grappling doesn't work without a GI unless you're a genius like Karo
>>187459how can someone be the future when they don't have one?
>>186755> Judo isn't useful outside of 1v1 sportshit.> Thinks you can't adjust for self defense.> Thinks Judo schools won't teach if asked how to if you are competent enough.> Thinks you can't train weightlifting which most judokas these days do.You are retarded and behind times boomer.
Whatever you enjoy most and has a convenient gym for you. (less than 30 mins). Train that for as long as you enjoy it and its convenient. Be open to other combat sports in case you need to swap out because of life circumstances or just need a break. Right now I do just because I can and its harder to find in the USA. If I can no longer do that, I'll go back to BJJ. If I can't do that, I'll pick up striking.
>>187461>>186893>judo's grappling doesn't work without a GI unless you're a genius>judo is basically useless unless you can fight on the ground
>>187480>reading comprehensionGet some. That post is pro judo dumbass.
>>187470Is one after the other, all with the same mindset and goals
>>187496that womans a genius, simple
>>187496How did she afford training?Blacks don't have sharingan level iq.
>>186607BJJ if you're into Gay SexJudo if you want to murderize people in self defense
>>187564Africa has some good judo programs surprisingly
>>187496Anything with pressure testing beats untrained people
>>187574Olympic programs get more/easier funding for donation purposes in Africa.
>>187565Judo throws don't work irl. Have you seen how hard it is to throw someoneThe only thing that works irl is boxing maybe wrestling if you didn't knock him out
>>188417>Judo throws don't work irl
>>188418>Dumbass who lives in fantasy land literally posts a movie set sceneLmfao. You can't make this shit up>Hurr police would judo throw this machete weilding man instead of pepper spraying him/shootingLmfao. Judo fantasy brain: "omg he konichi wazashi him? Cool!!!!!"
>>188421>police would pepper spray this machete weilding man
>>188417You've never grappled in your life
>>188417https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHKGRwj1kLI(Judo for street fights.)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZHqUA6qXLYNo Gi Judo takedowns.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVsUYMsqrK8
>>188485that second video was pretty cringe, I could tell from the thumbnail it was going to be grab my wrist no my other wrist tiernot a single one of the partners attacks were actually aimed anywhere and sent with the intention of connectinghe just intentionally stepped in and whiffed his strikes very slowly
In BJJ, you fight and fight to get some elaborate submission moveIn Judo, you throw someone and either land in a pin or fight to either stand back up or try to get another immediate pinThrowing someone, even if the throw isn't the greatest but still off-balances and lands someone on the ground, can lead into knees and drop kicking techniques.I'd go with Judo.
>>188421Not a movie set dipshit
>>189537>Police would attempt to grapple with a machete weilding maleYes. Of course