>spend 30-40% of time on practicing takedowns and 60-70% on practicing ground game intead of 10% on takedowns and 90% on ground game>start sparring on foot rather than on knees>give -2 points for guard pulling in competitions>Legalize slams for brown and black belts. And if you're scared to do it, instead ban jumping guard.>legalize heel hooks for brown and black belts in gi, just like you did in no gi
>>188306>start sparring on foot rather than on kneesWhere i train we can do either, usually more experienced people/judo backgroung want to start on foot.>give -2 points for guard pulling in competitionsDifficult, you can just mask it as a failed attack.>Legalize slamsYeah keeping the closed guard when the guy is standing it's retarded
basically yeahalso heel hooks are harder to finish with a gi, not easier. The ban because of "muh friction" shows the people making the rules have no idea what they're sayingthe gi allows you to grab on to something to keep your leg secure and prevent their extensionroyler proved this against eddie in their rematch when he saved himself from the leglock by grabbing eddies pants
>>188306>>spend 30-40% of time on practicing takedowns and 60-70% on practicing ground game intead of 10% on takedowns and 90% on ground gameTheoretically useful for self-defense and MMA, useless for sport BJJ, that's why people train the way they do>>start sparring on foot rather than on kneesPartly the above, partly space constraints. My gym for example is pretty small so when a full class turns up, there tends to not be enough space for standing start unless you want to throw your partner right on top of someone else>>give -2 points for guard pulling in competitionsAgreed>>Legalize slams for brown and black belts. And if you're scared to do it, instead ban jumping guard.Slams are legitimately dangerous, so I wouldn't legalize them, but there needs to be some sort of a major reward for being able to lift your opponent up to a standing position. Pulling guard is gay so I agree with you there>>legalize heel hooks for brown and black belts in gi, just like you did in no giYeah, IBJJF is just extremely gay, that much it has in common with most other "governing bodies". Luckily there are better orgs out there
>>188306So basically kosen judo then. Just go practice judo, morons.
>>188306>legalize heel hooks for brown and black belts in gi, just like you did in no giYou’re fucking retarded. Not needed it will not make gi JJ more entertaining / impact gi BJJ positively. The amount of force you can put on a heel hook is ridiculous if both guys are wearing gi pants and if your in a honey hole / saddle position in the pants there’s virtually no escaping. Knees will be blown out constantly. Stupid, leave heel hooks in the NoGi where guys at least have a chance to defend it. > guard pulling is part of the sport dealWith it faggot. Learn to pass guard.> start sparring on foot rather than on knees Agreed. >legalize slamsAgreed.
>>188321Throw on a gi and have someone heel hook you. Try and escape muh friction is real. And even counter grips won’t stop someone from rotating their upper bodies violently with your leg extended and heel caught. People finish straight ankle locks with counter grips applied and it does nothing.
>>188306Show me a time when a BJJ fighter lost a fight, it never happens
>>188368https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=34Tk9Z3AOvo&pp=ygUVb2xpdmVpcmEgdnMgbWFraGFjaGV2
>>188365If your escape relies on lubrication you're already beat and just got luckyThey had to defeat you in multiple phases to get you there, trying to slip and run is the late stage oh shit you fucked up grade 1 is better than grade 3 I guess
>>188372I get what your saying but it isn’t lubricantion it’s a matter of freeing the knee line which is nearly impossible in the gi and is the most viable heel hook escape.
>>188375It stands to reason though that the escapes developed due to the nogi natureGiven time with it normalized in the gi people will figure out the right way to escape under those conditions
>>188350Kosen isn't "ground judo". It's a very specific team-based ruleset that's only practiced in a handful of Japanese universities.
>>188398I don’t know man heel hooks have been around a long time and there really isn’t that many options in terms of escaping especially in gi. It all comes down to freeing the knee line.There’s a reason every major gi federation has it banned. Some movesdo deserve being on the banned list due to how dangerous they are. I truly think it’s unnecessary in the gi
>>188420I continue to insist it's banned out of fearing what they don't understandJudo had banned them in 1890 because there were no surgical procedures to repair damaged ligaments at that timeBrazil inherited the ban and continued it even after it was no longer necessary
>>188306BJJ is already more of a "middle class" sport that encourages softer people to join due to its simple to approach nature, only thing that keeps it from being super gay is the high skill ceiling.Combat BJJ is where you can actually learn how to apply yourself in actual grounded situations and its highly respectable, younger more ambitious people prefer judo.If BJJ just rounded itself by starting on the feet and allowing striking before the drop to floor phase you would basically have the most well rounded ground sport.(i would also say no GI reliance would make for a more applicable sport cause not everyone is wearing the perfect pullable and meta clothes in most situations)
>>188306Why do the contrarian fags on this board have such an obsession with BJJ dismantling? You could apply the same retarded logic to any martial art>let's fix boxing because there's no takedowns or kicks>let's fix judo because there's no leg grabs or strikes>let's fix wrestling because there's no submissionsThere is no "complete" martial art, they all have strengths and weakness that come from the rulesets. You can train however you want, or just do MMA (which also has rules lol)Is this obsession with "real" combat an anime thing or something?
>>193319>let's fix boxing because there's no takedowns or kicksIt wouldn't be boxing anymore but if you added backfists instead, it would still be boxing. Same with anything else. Same wiith any other sport. We should only legalize moves that don't radically change the nature of the sport.
>>193319Because it's been marketed as literally perfect by brazilian monkeys and all that shit is coming back like a boomerang.
>>193319Because BJJ fags are some of the most annoying, loud, holier-than-thou, cocky bastards around that still think we're in the UFC 1 era. Source: BJJ fag that also trains striking and wrestling because I'm not retarded.
>>193359>Because BJJ fags are some of the most annoying, loud, holier-than-thou, cocky bastards around that still think we're in the UFC 1 era.I've been training for 5 years and I've probably encountered like 1 BJJ person in the wild, and they were very chill about it.
>>193359Maybe on the Internet, but many if not most Jiu-Jitieros IRL are very open about cross-training in other grappling styles as well as stand-up. I'm a judoka and currently do Muay Thai; the BJJ guys who show up at my gym openly acknowledge that their takedowns need work and even recognize that much of BJJ stemmed from old school judo. BJJ is judo and catch wrestling that was built specifically for one-one-one Vale Tudo that emphasizes ground techniques. >>193560Ever deal with the newbie that shows up wearing Tapout gear and thinking that judo and wrestling will automatically submit to BJJ? I remember this 1 cocky asshole who got humbled big time when the Marine veteran who wrestled in college and was a judo brown belt used a modified kata gatame to smother him.
>>193359BJJ it's the most honest style, instead of theory, demos and "philosophy" they just go and fight masters and they won the vast majority of cases
>>193683I hope you're not taking the Gracie challenge matches seriously. They're notorious for imposing a bunch of rules and restrictions for the matches and then throwing a tantrum when it doesn't go their way anyways.
>>193683Practically all grappling styles are honest; you can't bullshit your way out of drills and practice. You can't learn to do proper leverage, technique, set-ups without being thrown and how to roll on the ground against a partner whose doing their damndedst to do the same to you. The only thing I dislike about certain elements within BJJ is the pit boys; thugs who use their skills and attack in packs over machoism. BJJ actually had a VERY bad reputation because of fights like this at clubs; judo was seen as classier and held in higher regard. I do respect how BJJ constantly pressure-tested itself in challenge matches and Vale Tudo, but on the other hand, that kind of dojo-storming gives martial arts a really bad rep. I hate McDojos and black belt factories with a passion, but that kind of behavior doesn't fly outside of Brazil. Even the Gracie brothers were guilty of this when they ambushed and ganged up on Rufino Dos Santos. Or ghow Gracie propaganda videos try to always market "GRACIE JIU-JITSU OWNING JUDO, WRESTLING, SAMBO!" when most of those instances are invites to compete or train together.
>>193698You remind me of that 1 time when Robin Gracie got challenged in a seminar by Damien Riccio. It's alright when the Gracies dish it, but they can't take it. I still have a lot of respect for all the pioneers and innovators of BJJ (which include Japanese that Gracie propaganda doesn't want to acknowledge like Geo Omori, Takeo Yano, the Ono brothers, etc.), but Gracie challenge matches kinda ruin their brand. I mean, it's a great marketing tool but do that in civilized nations with actual court structure and lawsuits, it's a seriously bad idea.
