>>196316
Check out this post and the replies to it >>191136
and either reply there or the new judo thread if you want to catch the attention of the people who most often talk about judo on this board >>196170

>>196316
martial arts is a discipline that takes decades to master, you're just inexperienced to perform in a very proeficient way

even the biggest retard can learn how to jab and cross but hardly ever they'll aply easily in fight

just keep training and don't worry to much, keep improving the things that you can spot and understand and if you don't understand something yet just keep working on other things until you realize where you're failing

Same as learning proper punches.
Practice that throw with a buddy dozens of times until you can do it blindfolded.
My dojo has a part of the class dedicated to practicing throws.

>>196316
Randori randori and then more randori

>>196457
I tried a judo club who is doing no randori… does it make sense to train there?
I’m coming from striking and in my experience you need to spar to learn properly. Does this applies to grappling as well?

>>197579
No randori ever or no randori for complete beginners who don't know how to fall safely yet?
>you need to spar to learn properly. Does this applies to grappling as well?
Absolutely. This is a foundational premise of judo.

>>197579
>>197588
Either way it seems like a bad club. I did light randori my first day

>>197608
No even the higher belts don’t do randori

>>197728
Is there a colored-belts-only class where they might do randori or is it literally zero randori ever for anyone? The latter would be extremely bizarre. I'd ask the instructor about the lack of randori (and presumably shiai) just to make sure it's not some kind of misunderstanding because those are integral parts of the judo educational system and it would be very, very weird to teach judo without them.

>>196457

I've been doing BJJ for like 18 months as well but the judo rule set is annoying as fuck, like the rule about not standing up during newaza. For example I stood up originally to pass someones guard and got told to get down again, its probably making my technique better in the long run but it was really difficult in the beginning because I'm used to standing when passing guard. I've started to implement some judo in to my BJJ, so its a nice cross over.

>>196316
Find a buddy and train together.
Do judo and BJJ, learn off YouTube. Randori, sparring and diet accountability etc. No homo.

>>196316
Making any progress, OP?

From the couple of talks I've heard from medalist Judoka and high level instructors, struggling to find timing and kuzushi is a lifetime Sisyphean rock.

You should do randori from day one, or atleast newaza. The whole point of judo over jjj was that the techniques were safe enough that you could spar 100% from day one.

I’m 28 years old and buff/athletic from weightlifting and cardio. I really want to get into judo but am worried about potential injuries. How common are these? Any ways to prevent them while still training?

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>>206494
Drill your breakfalls (ukemi) and make sure you're falling properly (safely) and protecting yourself instead of falling improperly (unsafely) in order to hurt your opponent's score like some competitors do. Other than that you should have a good feel for what your body needs in terms of recovery from your other training. You might get some more pointers if you ask in the >>>/xs//judo/ thread, too.

>>206494
the most common injury I've seen in judo is people accidentally landing on the mat with the wrong joint or bone. Ie. a shoulder, elbow, the head, etc. this is why they say that before even fighting anyone you should have memorized breakfalls, knowing all ways to land without hurting yourself. landing safely should be instinct by the time you start sparring.
the other most common injury, but not really serious, are mat/gi burns. you'll probably want to buy tape if you're gonna start judo. also keep your nails trimmed. i've had a few broken nails from judo and it sucks.

>>206494

Most injuries come from people going full retard to make a technique work, or people going full retard to avoid a fall/having to tap.

Go slow and easy at first, focus on form over speed and power, and drill break falls until you can casually throw yourself at the ground without a care in the world. Treat judo like you do when learning correct lifting form; deload the weight, dial down the intensity, and learn how to do it correctly.

>>204392

Sorry about the late reply, was doing judo :P Jokes aside, definitely getting better and the Jigoro Kano book that got recommended helped. Thanks guys.

Follow up question... I was thinking of getting resistance bands for uchikomi, any suggestions such as starting resistance, exercises, etc? Thanks again guys, you've helped loads.

>>196316
Everyone will struggle with timing in the beginning. They're trying to figure out the right situation for a throw they've only drilled
Eventually things move to the grip fight and flowcharts. You need certain grips and feints to execute certain sequences and techniques
In time, kuzushi becomes active. You move and interrupt the opponent, striking when they stop, resist or stumble

>>197579
It depends on what you want out of it. Despite what 4chan would have you believe about judo, it's not just this giga self-defense art. I think it's overhyped by the uninformed, in fact. More often than not it's a sport to do Olympic-style competition. But more than just a combat sport, it can also be practiced such that accuracy to the kata with an uke is what is judged. I personally like to do competition in service of understanding the moves better so I can be like a lore-keeper. I want a story from personal experience, competition-based, professional grappling, or MMA for each move. That's what makes me happy.

If you're a beginner and you mean to spar, it is entirely reasonable to wait a month or two before you start getting thrown. You should make that intention known so they can tell you if you're barking up the wrong tree or if you just need to wait.

>>196316
Just practicing, and always being mindful of positioning, especially during training/drills, underestimating form is the biggest factor in both jj and judo, just don't, take your time, but do it right, the most proper form you can, then you'll start doing it faster, your form will get crappy, you improve your form, get faster, form gets crappy, improve your form, repeat.

>>209133
I've seen a lot of guys use their belts for uchikomi so I'd guess the resistance of the band should err on the side of too strong rather than too weak

>>209325
>I think it's overhyped by the uninformed
The uninformed put it on the same level as strip mall karate and your average casual tapout dudebro mma/bjj guy thinks it's total bullshit. The idea that judo is "giga self-defense art" is limited strictly to this board.