Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu GeneralUlterior motives editionSmoothcomphttps://smoothcomp.comBelt Checkerhttps://www.beltchecker.comPrevious thread>>191479Thread question: would you allow you're gf to go to bjj classes knowing what you know about how men behave?
>>199628>would you allow you're gf to go to bjj classes knowing what you know about how men behave?No Women doing martial arts is cope and cringe
>>199634If men are so much better at everything then why do you don't have sex with them?
Many such cases
>>199628>would you allow you're gf to go to bjj classes knowing what you know about how men behave?I use her as a grappling dummy
>>199628Sometimes I take my wife to judo classes with me but mainly I do this >>199644 . There are a very limited number of circumstances in which I'd let her go to a BJJ class by herself, e.g. female instructor for a women's class (no troons) or a small group of men with whom I have a good deal of mutual trust and respect. My sister stopped going to BJJ after two classes in her city because too many guys in the class were making crass comments while rolling and she didn't want to deal with that or give it the opportunity to escalate.
I don't junction any gfs
>>199628My wife and I both train. Sometimes she'll go to class without me, if I've got something else I need to do.Frankly, we're old people in our 30s, we've been married ten years, we're deeply religious, she's been in love with me since her teens, and we're as pair bonded as two humans can be. Also the gym culture is predominantly right wing and hookup shit is explicitly not tolerated. All the gym couples either were together before, or started dating outside the gym.All that to say, I don't worry about it, but obviously my circumstances are different from a lot of people's.
How do I stop this?I did double legs till my feet were bleed, was it bad foot work? how do I fix it?
>>199662picrel
>>199663Moisturizer. Do more things barefoot. Unrelated to the scraping, cut your nails.
I have my first tournament at blue belt coming up soon and I don't want to go in with the attitude im going to get my shit rocked, but I don't have high expectations for myselfhow do i go into my first match with a good mindset?
>>199664ThanksI will be honest I forgot to do before class today and this pic was take mid clipping.
I'm going for my first session soon and I don't know what the etiquette is. Like can I just put my elbow across someone's throat to choke them? How do I know if I can do neck cranks or leg locks? What if I think "that will be painful" and just pull a limb In a direction ?
>>199665I don't know, but let me know what you find out 'cause I'm in the same boat. I hate competing and I suck at it, but I've gotta do it just to battle my inner bitch. That first blue belt bracket is gonna suck.
>>199671>etiquetteJust be cool. Don't spaz out, pay attention, keep an open mind, just try to learn, don't worry about "winning". Take care of your training partners so they can take care of you.>can I just put my elbow across someone's throatYou can, but that's a really ineffective technique. At best you may fluster an equally inexperienced white belt. At worst you'll annoy a more experienced guy. Most likely you'll just get swept or armbarred.>can do neck cranks or leg locks>What if I think "that will be painful" and just pull a limb In a directionSure go for it. Do whatever. If you do something wrong/hazardous (e.g., reaping the knee or whatever) somebody will tell you, just be prepared to receive that feedback. Don't drop your bodyweight on knees or necks. Otherwise yeah, just try to figure stuff out. Imho the best thing to focus on at the beginning is orientation: where are you, where's your opponent, what position are you in, what position is your opponent trying to go to?
>>199671just go with the flow of class and be humble. odds are you won't be able to execute any of the stuff you're talking about anyways so just focus on what the instructor is teachingdont show up smelling like shit and be ready for a cardio experience thats different than you're used to
>>199674if this thread is still up after next weekend will report back. what weight class are you?
>>199679Heavy. Mmmmaybe middle heavy if I get really lean. Super heavy if I'm a fat kid, but really I have no business being over 208.
>>199662tape>>199664isn't it connected to foot work ?
>>199676>Sure go for it. Do whatever. If you do something wrong/hazardous (e.g., reaping the knee or whatever) somebody will tell you, just be prepared to receive that feedback.Terrible advice. Find out the rules and etiquette beforehand from your instructor, who knows your abilities and knows the competition. Don't do anything dangerous. If you maim or cripple someone over a hobby that's pretty retarded, and if you do it in a way that's outside of the ruleset you might be fucked legally.
>>199628>Burpees vs jump rope for cardioIs there a difference for grappling?
has anyone else found it hard to go back to training after an injury/time off? i just got back to training after a bad ankle sprain sparring and have had trouble getting myself back.
>>199724these kinds of thingshttps://youtu.be/EH65sjtugFc?si=j36oCnIoX9nF7mt4&t=280
Why is wrestling seen as for young people and bjj for old people?
>>199756Probably because wrestling is more explosive and physically taxing generally.
>>199756Knees and backs
>>199756not a lot of places offer wrestling classes for adults
>>199776Yeah but adults don't stick with it, it's clearly harder on the body
>>199756Wrestling requires a relatively high degree of athleticism and conditioning to perform at a basic level--low stances, constant level changes, explosive movements, neck bridges, etc.--while BJJ is lazy judo for sleepy Brazilians who don't want to stand up.
>>199628>started doing bjj a little over a year ago, only gym in my small town is small af>quit after like 6 months to focus on school (last year of HS)>come back for like a month, get minor injury (hyperextended elbow from a super aggressive blue belt) that ends up putting me out of commission for a few weeks>come back for like 2 months, feel a little distance between me and the head coach because I'm retarded and told him I basically didn't tap in time>now thinking of going back because I have nothing else to do for the summer I just hate the social component of going to a small gym. There's all these people who want to talk to me and I feel weird around because I've been a member on and off for some time bit I'm floundering in skill. I guess I'll put my pride on a shelf and just go back. Idgaf if everyone got belt promotions and will probably kick my ass. Anyone else? Thanks for reading my blog.
>>199858If you're going away to school you can probably find a different place, and maybe even a school club
>>199858i train at a small gym, we usually get less than 10 people per sessioni like everyone and we all get along so it doesn't bother me, the only problem is variety in training partners.>There's all these people who want to talk to me and I feel weird around because I've been a member on and off for some time bit I'm floundering in skill.pretty normal stuff. nobody but yourself is going to care that you're a bit rusty. especially at your level of experience where expectations are usually zero.
Can I become a blue belt in 2 years by training once a week?
>>199886Are you doing zero training six days a week or are you training at home with just yourself and your aspergers? Do you have a strong athletic background in other grappling sports?
>>199886I've seen guys with rough work schedules pick one day and do 2-3 group classes split between 2 gyms and sometimes privates. If you can handle that and aren't really accumulating physical stressors the rest of the week, you can advance fine. One half lazy hour long group class a week, probably not.
>>199886Blue belt is largely a participation trophy you get for making your monthly payments on time for long enough
>tfw first class today
>>199900Let us know what you thought
>>199900You can't rhyme here with here, just remember that
You guys talked about rides so much last thread,I ended up getting the whole power collection.Is there a watch order for these?
>>199900Is that a DJ Killer Keem frog?
>>199938it was good.
>>199944by get do you mean you paid? because they're all free on bilibili
>download 235 GB worth of instructionals>have watched maybe 4 of them in total
>>199988Yeah I don't find instructionals helpfulAnd I feel an instructor should stay up to date with all the relevant ones and teach them to you directlyWhat are we paying these people for?Hell, I'll give people access to a Google drive with them
>>199992>Yeah I don't find instructionals helpfuli've yet to get through any of Danaher's or Gordon's instructionals. Danaher's five second pauses between each sentence and Gordon's nerdy ass Ben Shapiro voice are too grating for me to sit through.>And I feel an instructor should stay up to date with all the relevant ones and teach them to you directlyour coach is pretty good at this. he watches a lot of competitive jiu jitsu and will often teach techniques he sees performed live.
I found what I think is ringworm on my foot. I've been putting cream on it for 4 days now and I'm keen to get back to training. Can I just put sports tape over it like I do when I have mat burns? Or is that the reason I have ringworm now - because some asshole came to training with ringworm when he shouldn't have? >>199992>>199994https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLcUHuHE05wI find Less Impressed More Involved BJJ pretty good at condensing down instructional and competition footage into very dense videos. He's currently trying to plug his new website but I don't know if I want to invest in it yet. So much information is free on YT alreadyHas anyone tried it?>https://outlierdb.com/
>>199997I will never pay for jiujitsu information, not even seminars ESPECIALLY seminarsAnd wear socks with grippies on the bottom, that's becoming increasingly popular in general>>199994I watch a 2x speed and he's still too slow of a talker for meWaste of time, very little actual info
>>199999>I will never pay for jiujitsu information, not even seminars ESPECIALLY seminarsWhy?
>>199999>BJJ>grippy socksYeah that about checks outAlso, checked
>>199994>i've yet to get through any of Danaher's or Gordon's instructionals>>199999>I watch a 2x speed and he's still too slow of a talker for me>Waste of time, very little actual infoIdk anyone (even black belts) that hasn't walked away from a Gordon/Danaher instructional without some sort of immediately effective piece of knowledge on a position.
>>199976>by get do you mean you paid? because they're all free on bilibiliNo I didn't I just don't have a lot of disk space so, I don't torrent any thing really.>>199944Is there a order to these?
>>199988I have "every thing" but I still rewatch the same 5 five
Hello I'm a blue belt I don't understand what the hell I'm doing but it works now. I've spared with a black belt and he told me to work on my balance more than my techniques.How do you do that?
>>200059>get swept>reflect on what you did wrong in that position to get swept>force that position again but apply your new strategy>did you get swept? if not , do it again>are you consistently getting swept less? then yes your balance is betterposture + base = balance
>I prefer BJJ but I'm open-minded and appreciate all grappling styles!>Want to work on your standup? Try Craig Jones' Wrestling for BJJ or Gordon Ryan's No-Gi Judo or Mikey Musumeci's Submission SamboWhy are BJJ fags like this?
>>200011They don't offer value, best case scenario for your $100+ you'll pick up 80% of one moveInfo dumping a bunch of different things over 2 hours isn't how anybody learns anythingPlus unless you're in some podunk middle of nowhere place that doesn't have black belts, the fag coming to do the seminar doesn't know anything you can't find somewhere elseAll he did was take a bunch of steroids to win a competition with barely any participantsWaste of money every time
>>199756Because wrestling is a scholastic sport that forces top young athletes through a decade of insanely intense training. It's like asking why college football players are more hardcore than a rec league.
>>200065Yeah meanwhile those wrestling/judo fags are very open to other styles kek
>>200076>$100+haha the ones at my gym are 60
>>200078>>It's like asking why college football players are more hardcore than a rec league.This is the best way to describe it
>>200080>Yeah meanwhile those wrestling/judo fags are very open to other styles kekWe used to fuck around trying to learn BJJ before/after wrestling practice and one of the judo blackbelts under my judo instructor is a BJJ blackbelt and runs a BJJ/newaza class at the dojo.
>>200081Consider this as well thoughMuch like with instructionals, if you run a gym and think there's value in seminars you should be going to them yourself and bringing the information back to your studentsDon't put that additional expense on them, that's what they're paying you forWhenever an owner is hosting a seminar he'll often feed a line of "I'm doing this for you guys"That's bullshit, he's juicing his monthly income
>>200093how does a gym owner know what each person will take away?>>200065Because they are teaching it in relation to bjj
>>200093>Whenever an owner is hosting a seminar he'll often feed a line of "I'm doing this for you guys">That's bullshit, he's juicing his monthly incomeEven if the host charges $0 for putting in extra effort the guest seminar instructor is going to charge a fee.
>>200094that's all part of the negotiations, depending on who they get the agreement will be we split the sales a certain percent which is for lower level guests, and higher level guests will do something like "I charge 3k for an hour plus travel and accommodations, you keep 100% of the door price"isn't craig like 20k for a seminar or something? but thats why they go to these areas that have no high level jiujitsu and people drive in from 3 hours a way to see them, so the gym makes money
Any opinions on traditional jap ju jitsu. The MMA gym nearby offers trad ju jitsu training and I'm thinking if I should sign up or not.
>>200119there are very few legitimate jujutsu lineages that still exist because judo absorbed almost all of themso its an orange flag and you need to do your research because most of the times when you see japanese jujitsu what you have are white guys larping and they learned aikido and karate then made up a "style" themselves and gave it a japanese name, and it doesn't actually have any ties to japan
>>200121They claim to be part of Kokusai Budoin IMAF, which is apparently some official Japanese JuJitsu org. They also claim to be a branch of the Zé Radiola team on the BJJ front, is that a legit thing?
>>200123The lineages themselves are beyond my scope, I couldn't tell youI only know about the situation JJJ finds itself in which what I said earlier is all I know about it
>>200123Usually you can watch trainings, go a few times and see if it's legit.
How do I get my instructor to finally give me my blue belt? I’m a two stripe white belt atm (last stripe I got about a year ago at a different gym), I placed first in a local comp back in March and I’m at the point where I’m regularly smoking most of our blue belts, including bigger guys, in sparring. I asked him about it earlier and he said I was ‘probably ready’ or something to that effect. But I’m moving at the end of the month so I would prefer to get it sooner as opposed to later.>>199671>How do I know if I can do neck cranks or leg locks?Neck cranks are generally not kosher. Ankle locks are usually fine for white belts but other stuff (knee reaps/bars, heel hooks, etc.) are typically only allowed for higher belts.Ofc this is all somewhat gym-dependent so you should probably ask the guy in charge.
>>199628>knowing what you know about how men behaveHow do men behave? Asking for a friend
>>200159There's a trend of bjj instructors being "the other guy"Make of that what you will
>>200157At my gym there's like 4 kinds of promotions>Consistently show up>Doing great and well deserved>Doing great, should be allowed time to cook, but you get it as a farewell present if you're moving>Instructor identifies you need the carrot on the stick and gives you the belt in hopes you'll "grow into" the beltJust be humble and you'll get it when you need itIf you're smoking in competition he/she might also delay you a bit so you can enter some more tournaments and get some more clout/medals
>>200163>>200157As an addendum let your instructor know you're movingI mean they need to know you're moving so they don't keep billing you anyways
>>199634>Women doing martial arts is co-ACK!>>200156As someone who’s never seen JJJ before how would I know how legit it is?
>>200171>They prolly don't call the kimura the kimura thereAnother time I saw way too much kata and drilling and not so much live rolling
>>200157If he doesn't give it to you before you leave just get one and put it on yourself when you go to the new place>>200159The only reason I even got into this shit was to take advantage of the power dynamicToo bad no girls ever show up
Whenever you start to think bjj is cool just watch roy dean content to snap yourself right out of that illusionhttps://youtu.be/Qa3KH4k5-aM?si=8fpnreJpUl7xkdqV
>>200186Huh. How common is that kind of ritualized, formalized technique demonstration? It almost looks like aikido, or judo kata, or some koryu art.
>>200171Watch if they spar and how, if they do some cringe self defense tec, how much warm up and generic physical exercises they do, if the higher belts are fat/nerds or decently fit, just use common sense and look on youtube how trad jj is usually. My judo gym didn't do trials i just watched training a bunch of times, they were slamming each other like gorillas; i did a trial lesson at gracie barra, they told me the white belt course was 1 self def tec (fucking stupid) and 2 ground techniques, did a 360 and walked away.
>>200194uncommon, part of the appeal of doing bjj in the first place is not doing shit like thatimagine how much time he must've spent prepping his demonstration and memorizing it, using his uke so they know what's coming nexta number of hours for sure they spent doing that instead of trainingbjj has its own cult bullshit though like "running the gauntlet" which is just a humiliation ritual where you take your shirt off and get whipped with a belt in front of everybody like a pledging frat boyand the pedro sauer lineage chokes you out every time you get promotedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Ye4BVrTd4I hate brazilians so fucking muchI'd personally take japanese autism over brazilian barbarism any day
>>200186Why is this supposed to be cringe
>>200196>the pedro sauer lineage chokes you out every time you get promoted
>>200196>I'd personally take japanese autism over brazilian barbarism any dayBrazilian barbarism it's what won fights
>>200195>>200156>>200123>>200138I googled Kokusai Budoin IMAF and this is what came up, seems like trad Jiu Jitsu has striking and trips/throws, does this seem legit? I think it's supposed to be two black belts in competition.https://youtu.be/al57rodj-tw
>>200211Fixed fightsThose fights you hear about in Rio back in the day were all worksEither explicitly side show acts or fixed for gamblingBrazilians have always been all together unremarkable on the global stage, they need to be juiced to the gills to beat anybodyJust the facts
>>200214Looks like sport karate
>>200196https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJ2vt8wUbYRekt and checked, Sumo autism more useful and more principled for street fighting even, slam the guy down as fast as possible and finish him there.
>>200230I love sumo, slap and tackle a bitch, hit him with your forehead, push him over, give him an atomic wedgie!!
I have been trying to work on my half guard.I ended up with a spazzy twink who fully shoulder checked my nose twice and elbowed my temple.Had to hit him with the "Calm down, Buddy" took his back and held him face down. I didn't even go for a choke, this is the first time I have done something like this.It feels good man.
>>200248I've lost my temper a couple of timesI usually keep my cool but getting hit in the mouth sets me off
>>200248>>200249thanks for reminding me to get a mouthguard
My shin is kinda tingly after class. We were doing ankle locks and I didn't feel anything bad in class but now hours later it's tingly and almost numb. Felt like it was asleep. Some very minor pain in dorsiflexion. Should I be concerned bros?
>>200248>>200252I had someone try to cross collar choke me whilst in my guard. I had my chin tucked and they were basically just pressing their forearm into my mouth as hard as they could. They kept trying to force the submission even when it was obvious it wasn’t on. I swept, took the back and got the sub with a very rough bow and arrow. Felt Goodman.I don’t wear a mouth guard because I like to be able to breathe. I had cuts in my mouth for a week.
>>200222Is it worth doing alongside regular MMA and BJJ training just so I can get more hours in do you think? They offer them at the same dojo on the same day right after each other.
>>200259So my personal opinion is more isn't always better, because if you spread it too thin you'll just have shitty workoutsI was on a consistent 5+ a week schedule for years and now I'm down to 3 days and I feel like I get more out of training by not doing as much
>>200253vax status?
>>200262They teach BJJ/Grappling and MMA classes 3 times a week from, MMA from 19.00 to 20.30 and Grappling/BJJ from 17.00 to 19.00, so if I sign up for both I would be doing 3 hours 30 minutes three days a week, now that I think it through I don't even have time to do trad Jiu Jitsu cause I also do archery and powerlift as hobbies + work. So yeah I guess I'll pass on that. Honestly looked kinda goofy anyways.
>>200230>zero stripe white belt does zero stripe white belt things>THIS TOTALLY PROVES BJJ DOESN'T WORK
>>200253Were you trying to defend the ankle locks? If so, could it be that you overworked your tibialis muscle? It's the kind of muscle that almost never gets sore, so it feels very weird when it doesIn any case, I don't think you should be concerned unless the pain persists or gets worse. If you tore something, trust me, you'd know
Anons, I hope I don't come off the wrong way, but I am trying to "get" BJJ. I did Judo for one year as a kid, but all I did was use my force and try to stay up, I did not learn Judo at all, just low level standing grappling lol. After that all I did was striking related. I am unsure if I'll actually do BJJ in the near future, but I wanna do it someday, still I have practically no understanding of BJJ. Like, if I am talking to someone less knowledgeable when it comes to striking, I can more or less structure what I know to teach them. Basic punches, kicks, blocks, slips, what to look for, what to avoid, common mistakes, etc. But I have no idea about BJJ, and I kind of wanted to know that, I mean, how is BJJ broken down, like if you were to teach the basics of everything for someone in one day. I know there is the standing hand game thing, the drags, the takedowns, the guards, a few things to look for and to avoid, but I can't really structure it. Can someone help my autismos? >inb4 just go take some classesI'd do it right now if I could but I don't have much time in between 2 jobs, family and some other problems I am dealing with right now, but I'll have only 1 job in the near future so I expect to have enough time to go back to Muay Thai and finally do BJJ.
>>200267Martial movements play well into BJJ honestlyRockclimbers are difficult to beat in giBow users probably have insane bow and arrow chokes as well as cross collar chokesThey feed into each otherThe only thing that should stop you from doing variety is your financial situationThat and you'll bring a unique mindset I'm assuming since if you don't want to compromise certain parts of your body like your palms and wrists as an archer you'll just play differentlyVariety is king on the mat
>>200311I'll be signing up for BJJ and MMA next year, I just won't be doing trad jap jiu jitsu.>That and you'll bring a unique mindset I'm assuming since if you don't want to compromise certain parts of your body like your palms and wrists as an archer you'll just play differentlyVariety is king on the matWhat? You mean like I'll have to use different moves if I don't want to risk hand injuries or something?
>>200313As an anecdote, I get stuck in quarter guard (pretty much a mount) I have decent flexibility, and don't respect poor form tapsSo I tap later, fight chokes and submissions, and usually tap at arbitrary pointsOn the other hand I have a pipetting job/like playing computer games so I won't grip hard or do anything that risks my fingers being stubbed or move fast and spazzy because BJJ isn't my only hobbyOther people might have running as a hobby and they'll tap super early/escalate the pace the second you touch their feet/legsYour different skillets and mindset will change what positions you naturally learn faster or slowerAlot of why BJJ is accommodating /accessible is because it's a sport about control so you can make it accommodate your limitations
Half the people in my gym have fucked up fingers from holding onto gi grips with the strength of a thousand retards. Competition, I can understand, but why do so many people seem willing to sacrifice their fingers when you could just let go and regrip?
>>200323I can think of a number of reasons>SinglemindednessThey don't realize th opponent addressing the grip is in theory a counterattack opportunity or a "go try something else" or "regrip" opportunity>DumbIn my gym BJJ people fucking suck at trad-judo shit so they do awful breakfalls, it stands to reason their BJJ grips suck badly tooIn short they just don't know any better3rd wild card >Some people just see redI know people who go full primal fight/flight and they have no recollection of anything, so I wouldnt expect them to make any conscious worldly decisions, much less realize how much pain they should be in with all that adrenaline pumping
>>200284>I can't really structure itThat is it, unless your gym has a beginner class you will learn as you go in regular class.The best you can do learn how to move on the ground >Self Mastery: Solo BJJ Training Drills here is a free thingafter that torrent position and submission escapes dvd
>>200330>>200284the turnover rate for BJJ is pretty highthe current "working" format at my gym is the gym focuses on one popular position (i.e. half guard or de La riva or leg entry) a week/fortniteobviously you wont know jackshit about how to develop that position to do it in the first place if youre new, but your partner will ideally be a higher belt and theyll go over fundamental shit like>how to keep your opponent at bay with frames>how to maintain frames to manage the pace of the grapple>to to maintain frames so you can bail outand ideally within a year or two the gym will have cycled back to the same position again and you will be more worldly and more of the classes will start to mesh together for you in a way that makes sense
>>200284additionally fundamental jiu jitsu is about the theoretical checkmatesay you and a guy start standing and the other guy is just better than you>better guy lands the thrownow you need to pull guard-get your legs between you and your opponent like an upside down cockroach, because then in theory you can kick away from the opponent or kick at them>they then need to address your legs and control your hipsif your legs are in the way, the hips are what keeps them mobile and ideally shiould constantly be in motion to enable better angles>so they control your hipshow they can drive with their entire body and address your arms which you need to try and hide or join so they dont get joint locked, or your neck which you need to defend so you dont get chokedThe entire time it's a gradual checkmate in the sense that a good grappler is methodically taking away degrees of freedom until the only option left is to tap outAll that said, barring sudden and threatening submissions at random exposed joints and necks, the fundamental progression for pinning an opponent and cutting off their options is>standing>grounded>feet>knees>hips>hands>elbows>back>neck>finishand this isnt even talking about if you just want to target a limb and joint lock itAll those random positions are tools you need, and frankly youll have holes in your kit as to how achieve a given progression until you actually work through the various 5 or so techniques that all achieve the same thing, but favor different body matchups (ie stocky vs lanky) or different angles of attack or transitionsSo the only way to really pick things up if youre not talented is to just show up and put a decent amount of mat time in
>>200284>how is BJJ broken downThe Danaher definition:Take your opponent down, get pass their legs, work through a hierarchy of pins, submit them. The Souders definition:Attack the periphery (limbs) to gain access to center mass (chest, hips, back) so that we can immobilize, isolate, and re-attack the periphery.If you want to get autistic about BJJ these two guys have hours and hours of stuff for you to consume. If you want more specifics and are curious about specific submissions and positions, just search on youtube. There are a lot of BJJ youtubers that make videos for newbies
>>200334danaher edition works if youre a roid pumping freak like gordon ryan whose physique is so massive your body is naturally going to have poor angles to attackat least souders makes sense in all walks of lifeeveryone has a gameplan that works in a vacuum, you attack them effectively enough and theyll spend the rest of the match trying to just survive
>>200341>danaher edition works if youre a roid pumping freakit is just about taking the back
>>200332>turnover rateI can wait for summer to end there is to many jeets that have no idea whats going on.I partnered up with one because he was the closest person.Drilling armbar escape I go first and before I even started the escape he just yanks my arm.
"Keep Jiu Jitsu Gay"
>>200348bj bros not like this...
>>200360It doesn't need to be like this, you just need to use soap if you want that extra mile get some spats and long sleeve rash guards.You will be fine
>start training this week>extremely gassed rolling with another whitebelt>after rolling guy asks "are you a smoker?"anyone here take adderall and manage to have good cardio? how do i do it bros
>>200346thats a fucking cunt move for sureat least for a trad-armbar i reach over and brace my elbow to avoid fuckheads fucking my arm over
>>200346>>200365additionally, whitebelts should always pair up with upper beltstwo white belts drilling a move in general is just stupid and irresponsible
>>200365Yeah the drill wasn't even about the submission it was about the escape all you need to do is just hold it.>>200366>shouldthere is a lot more summer belts then colored belts
>>200369>there is a lot more summer belts then colored beltsyeah and the more i think about it the more stupid it is to let two uninformed people figure out their way around a potentially maiming situation
>>200372>stupid it is to let two uninformed people figure outRemember when one of the Gracie argued the opposite I court? haha
>>200334souders definition: win small battles on your way to winning bigger onesdanaher definition: just fucking throw him on the ground and beat him up bro
>>200403>danaher>throwgood one
>>200362Does Adderall effect cardio that much? I take it and don't notice. Also white belt and my cardio improved insanely fast just rolling.
>>200413its pretty bad when being already out of shape at least
>>200416Being out of shape is going to feel badBeing out of shape while someone is trying to strangle you is obviously going to feel worse
>>200361I got ringworm on the knuckle of my big toe (I get mat burns here often). How on earth can I protect it other than washing? It’s calloused as fuck but I still get the occasional mat burn, especially when competing on those ribbed mats.It’s been a week no training. Lamisil seems to be working better than the other creams however
>>200430cover it in that liquid skin (3 layers should be good), then wrap it in tapeor get grappling socks
>>200430Defense Soap and Kennedy Industries make preventative foams. Obviously no help afterwards, but going forward probably worth the investment.
>>200432I’ve heard about liquid tape before, I’ll give it a try. Thanks for the tip.I still need to work on my sports tape technique. I’m 6’4 and 100kg. It’s a lot of weight going through my feet when rolling, some days I go from No gi class into Gi comp class. It’s an hour and a half of straight rolling and positional rolling. The tape just never lasts and I hate stopping constantly to redo it. >>200434I’ll look into it. Thanks. My gym only has the one shower, so I usually just shower immediately when I get home. Is this an issue?
>>200435I am 6'4 and 230lbs my trick to tape is use multi ripped strips and over lap them I go really tight with itThat lasts around 2h for mewhat type are you using I find climbing tape the best
>>200430>calloused as fuckyou think so? my feet are so calloused I have to use a pocket knife to carve some away every week
>>200274Yeah I think it was just overworked tibialis. Was fighting them a lot more than I usually do
>>199665Ive competed recently for my first blue belt comp. Honestly, blue belt has the greatest range in talent pool, so youll get a mix of shitters and bruisers. The best way to think about it is only focusing on the individual match, dont think about your next matches. Use only things that you have thoroughly trained, and do whatever you can to annoy your opponent. Also stretch thoroughly. Mindset wise, at the end of the day you can go home and crack a beer, but it will feel better with a medal around your neck. Just give it your all
>>199665Adding on to this, you need to have the mindset of "im gonna kill this guy." The desire to win is a stronger power than the desire to not lose
Why do people say BJJ is a young sport? I swear it's been going on since like the 80s...
>>200484it's young in relation to other established martial arts like judo and wrestling
>>200499>>200484Slightly related to worldwide popularity and availability too. There's a reason you mostly see Americans and Brazilians.
>>199637Wait long enough and she'll use another guy to "rescue" her from the BJJ instructor.
How are you even supposed to concentrate?
>>200516Concentrate on the feetI know I do
>>200516leglock niggas be like
>>199671https://youtu.be/pwrsx-Em738?si=xBIbcbk49yjG5LjB
>>200516this is why toe holds are my signature move
>Your belt>Favorite subme>white>spamming ezequiel while in mount
>>200545blueprobably the bow & arrow
>>200545Brown, thinking about self promoting to blackOutside heel hook in the gi
>>200545Loose. Meatball.
>>200545PurpleDarce choke
>>200545WhiteArmbars are just about the only thing I can pull off semi-consistently
>>200545White, No gi; RNC but starting to use it transition to arm triangle which is becoming my new favouriteGi: bow and arrow
I suck at ass at hip bump and other guard sweeps. Think my core is just pathetically weak so working on that. Any exercises or solo drills I can do to improve guard game?
>>200577Well its a bad moveAnyone with a half way decent base isn't going over from that. It's something I'll do to white and blue beltsThe bump is just to make them react and create entropy, the sweep itself isn't the intended goalAlso kettle bells
>>200577>Any exercises or solo drills I can do to improve guard game?start your sparring rounds in the closed guard, that's probably the most efficient way to improve
Are deadlifts really necessary in combat sports? I'm only on 3plates but feel myself getting a hernia already and thinking about cutting them out
>>200639No particular exercise is "necessary" for anything other than competitive exercise sports. Weightlifting, powerlifting, crossfit games etc. If it's doing more harm than good, chuck it. Maybe you'll come back to them later, maybe they're gone forever. The effect they have on your performance is really all that matters.
>>200639If you're giving yourself a hernia deadlifting 3pl8 then you're doing something horribly wrong.
>>200642I didn't respect the weight and jumped from 120kg to 140kg very quickly. I started getting a pain in my gut, so decided to go back to 120kg and do a proper strength program Unfortunately I think the damage is done as I've gone up to 140kg but the gut pain returns. It is what it is
>>200649Go down to like 80kg and start doing sets of 12, the problem is either with your lower back or core as well as ypur form, if you really want to go heavy then use a belt and straps.
>>200652No idea if its a hernia as the pain goes away after a week if i stop doing deads. As soon as i do them again (heavy) it comes back. Its probably core weakness as i didnt do any direct core work and fell for the meme that squats and deads give you a rock solid core I wanted to get to 4plates and stop there, but idk if its worth the potential risk. Sometimes i even think wtf is the point wasting time with deads when i can do something safer and easier on the body . i do enjoy doing them though and feel it carries over into generally being "strong"
>>200654Squats and deadlifts do work put your core, but if you don't do direct core work or other compounds that hit your core then the progress of you back and legs will outpace the progress of your core.Deadlifts are safe, just let the shit go if you feel anything painful or unusual instead of trying to get the rep in for your ego.Also, try a wider stance with more leg drive, you're probably lifting with just your back, the bar is supposed to drag along your shins.
>>200655>>200652>>200642The wise powershart GOD has entered the thread to bless the dyles with back pain and jiggly tits.Kneel.
>>200639No athletes deadliftKnow how you can tell who's an athlete in the gym and who isn't? See if they're deadlifting
>>200680All athletes do compounds
>>200682 Not dead lifting, it has no functional application Ever heard the phrase firing a Canon from a canoe?Those kinds of lifts are just Unga bunga big weight mean I strong! Gym teacher shitYou take that guy, he's gonna put 12 plates on the bar, strap it to his hands, put on his knee braces and support belt for his back, do some deep breathing while his bros go LIGHT WEIGHT LIGHT WEIGHT!!! then let out a primal scream and shrug the thing 4 inches off the ground for half a second while blowing amino diarrhea into his shortsAnd then he'll have someone a quarter of the weight he just lifted blast his legs out from under him and slap him silly and be completely helpless because he has no functional strength whatsoever
>>200683
>>200680https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfU9wDGTbC0
>>200689Lol, using the guy with a genuine learning disability as an example
Beej bros!! Not like this!!!
>>200655>you're probably lifting with just your back, the bar is supposed to drag along your shinsA tip I found helpful from watching Eddie Hall videos was to think of deadlifts as being similar to a leg press.
what are some good way to improve my rnc?I work it pretty hard already
>>199663>>199662
>>200545bluepressure
>>200760works like a charm
>>200577>I suck at ass at hip bump and other guard sweeps.For hip bump sweeps, get on youtube and/or ask your coach, to ensure that you are doing everything correctly with the way you move your hips. You'll likely come across videos that show how a failed hip bump can lead to kimuras, triangles, and guillotines. For sweeps in general, be sure that you are keeping your partner off balance and trying to either isolate arms or drag them across your body. Closed guard defense at lower belts is dogshit so if you get decent at the position you will sweep and submit a lot of people.Make sure you know what to do if someone stands or breaks your guard
>>200877It's literally the "swing up" motion after you plant feet and post up that I get stuck on. It's slow as shit and even the whitest belt has time to just shove me back down. Need to keep drilling I guess
I've decided I will wait 18 months from today, and if I haven't received a black belt yet I'm going to just start wearing one anyway I'm willing to give the bozos in this podunk town a little more time to do the right thing but I won't wait much longer
How long do I have to do bjj before I can go to an open mat also if I want to practice take downs or wrestling on an open mat is this okay
>>200930Depends on the gym/instructor. Sometimes it's time, sometimes it's your first stripe if you guys do that, sometimes they'll just say you can start. All of this assuming they're actually paying attention and you're not a 5 year white belt or something. What you work on will be entirely dependent on who's there and what they're comfortable with.
As a kid all I wanted to do was wrestle, or practice judo moves on People, before I even knew what either of those things were. didn't have that as a sport in schoolThen like many others went on to video games as a surrogate activity to dominate others. Now I'm back to square one looking for a fun way to learn how to control a person in the most primal way as nature intended all creatures to enjoy
Do you need to dedicate your life to become proficient at bjj? Or does someone training once a week have the ability to effectively use skills irl?
>>199724Why not do both? Doesn't have to be at the same time. Cardio is cardio.
how long did it take u all to land ur first sub in rolling?
>>200939The only reason I do this is to try and meet girls because they normally aren't interested in me but if I'm good at something and then they show up as white belts the power dynamic will make me seem more attractive
>>200958pretty long, i'd say around 6 months.not sure what sub it mightve been, maybe an ankle lock.took me a while to get comfortable with the idea of using pressure during drilling and sparring, i was always afraid of hurting my partner. i've always been the meek, shy nerd type.two years later and i love to grind my forehead into people's jaws when they overhook my arm, crush people in kesa gatame, and apply liberal amounts of shoulder pressure when passing half-guard and side control.
>>200960And how's that working out for you
>>200964About as good as any other method I've triedJust need to bide my time a little longer
>>200958Three or four classes in I got a armbar from mount the guy was playing half guard and I pinned his one leg and slide over,he failed at bridging and really just gave it to me.
>>200939that the same for me grappling and instructions have taken the place video games had in my time
>>200955>Why not do both? Doesn't have to be at the same time. Cardio is cardio.Fair I am doing both now switching day to day
Do you guys tone it down if you’re visiting a gym? Currently on holiday and training at a new gym for two weeks. I had my first session yesterday and every roll I got the back within a minute. I then would feel bad and let them escape but when I played bottom and felt the heat I’d immediately turn back into gear and end up on their mount/back again and just slowly worked the sub because, again, I felt bad. I’m a white belt who has been training for a year, but I am big and athletic. I rolled with 3 white belts, a blue, and on obese brown belt. Never once felt worried or out of depth except for when I was under the behemoth brown. I may be paranoid but I think the instructor was kinda pissed towards the end with how easily I was handling his white belts.
>>200986>Do you guys tone it down if you’re visiting a gym?NoI am a 6'5 brown belt even if I want to go easy the other big guys view me as a attacker
>>200958First sun against;>whiteA month>blue/purple Half a year >brownAlmost a year>blackNever
>>200988get rekt by a 115lbs retired guy lmao!
>>200954You know how if someone does karate there's a high probability they're really bad at fighting but occasionally you'll come across someone that does karate and is really exceptional?BJJ is well on its way to being thatSo it all depends on if your teacher is retarded or not. It doesn't take long at all to git gud as long as the person explaining it is good at explaining itThe people that don't get it are going somewhere where the instructor>shows a complex series of movements>refuses to elaborate further>claps for some reason
>>200990this hasn't happened yet>49 year old former ufc fight doesn't count since he work at the gym he owns
>>200993The way it's taught is dogshit. It will take someone new a year to be competent at the basics with the standard>lazy warm up >drill le move of the day, usually some niche sneaky move for comps for 30 mins>20 mins of rolls
>>200998As with anything you need to self teach. I go to the comp classes as a white belt as it is the most roll time. I watch videos on YouTube or instructionals of techniques I want to learn. I ask higher belts and my instructor for the finer points of the technique and where I’m getting it wrong, then I finally apply it in rolls and positional sparring.I cringe to think of the wasted time I spent in the beginners class which was exclusively drilling and filled with physical rejects and women.
>training at arguably the best gym in my state>gf gets great job in the city my family lives in>say fuck it, move too despite having 0 friends there>nice people but new gym sucks ass>get dumped 3 weeks after movingWell I guess I can go sit through half ass instruction and take out my frustrations on shitty blue belts. There are some tournaments coming up that I can focus on too I guess. Nothing like a sport full of males to get over the loneliness and pain. Thanks for reading my blog
>>201003>there are some tournaments coming up that I can focus on too I guess. >Nothing like a sport full of males to get over the loneliness and pain. Thanks for reading my blogthat a fine outlet, good luck on moving back>t. same thing happened to me
>>200998I honestly can't wait to open a gym myself just so I can run everyone else in the area out of business out of spiteI'm cutting away ALL the bullshitreminder: if you go to class 3x a week over the course of 10 years you've spent nearly 6 hours going 1, 2, 3 :clap:I did the math
>>201005> spent nearly 6 hours going 1, 2, 3 :clap:>I did the mathgod I knew it, I didnt do he math but god damn
>>200965do BJJ for younot for women
>>200993>>201001What's the difference between me going to class Vs getting my 90kg girlfriend to sit on me and me attempting to escape , watching YouTube and trying kimuras on her etc?
>>20101690 oh she's tin- kg THICCCFucking around on your own time is more valuable than what most teachers will give youIn person instruction is for low iq individuals. High iq 4chan users should be able to figure it out and then going to the gym is just to play and test stuff out
>been sick>haven't been to class in a week and a half>longest layoff since the forced coof closures>don't miss it>don't want to go back>realize I was only going because of the routine
Is it normal for three of your toes and shoulder to hurt for literally a month after your first few grappling sessions?
>>201153It's weird how a lot of people seem to just want to get to blue belt and then quit ...why is this?
>>201177Probably not >>201178This happens at every belt, blue is just the most common because it's the first oneAnd the people who do this have already made the decision whether they realize it or not. They aren't enjoying the hobby so much anymore, either the novelty is worn off or they're just over itBut if you've been going consistently you decide you at least want something to show for it so you just force yourself to go through the motions until you get a belt and then that's a good place to leave itThe blue belt is just an award for beginners that didn't quit right away. Purple is where you git gudBrown is where you weaponize autismAnd then black is a participation belt the same way blue is because fact is your difference in ability between the day you get brown and black will be trivial
>>199634Girls that can do bjj are way better in bed
>>201198T. Whore
>>200762FAT
>>200545>white (I never went to belt graduations)>'mericana from everywhere (have hit them from every possible position now)I love head-and-arm chokes but I struggle with hitting them consistently.
>>201177how bad of shape were you in? i can imagine its very easy to tweak joints if you are coming in overweight and havent worked out at all in awhile.i started this month and one of my shoulders has basically been sore the whole time. i thought i actually hurt my shoulder this week since the joint ached kinda bad but it went awayim only a little overweight and have kept up a little bit with exercising so i could easily see someone hurting for awhile if worse offimo you probably want to be really careful if you are having lasting joint pains. i do/did a lot of shoulder exercises and i still worry about hurting mine
>>201225I have kept myself in decent shape I guess. Lift weights and do calisthenics. Can basically do close enough to 1/2/3/4 for reps. 50 push-ups. Weighted pull ups. Obviously my body isn't used to grappling though, I got turf toe just from attempting shooting singles a few times. My toe still hurts a month later
this is great one for what it isI haven't seen any one talk about it
>>201266Isn't it kind of sad, the absolute state of jiujitsu where people would be compelled to go to outside sources for that kind of thing?That shit should be standard, like a blue belt requirement If you can't fight then at the end of the day it's all for nothing
>>201269No, not really. Do you say this to wrestlers and judoka too? Or boxers who are degenseless on the ground?
>>201296Jiujitsu is a fighting art first, unlike boxing, judo, wrestling which have legitimate sports attached to them and those sports are the primary goal for most pracitionersNobody cares about sport bjj, the people who train don't watch it and even fewer actually participate in it. Maybe people will try a tournament once or twice as a white belt, realize the sport blows with its confusing rules and subjective enforcement of them, and then never do it again.For that reason fighting should be treated as its main function
>>201269Uhh, no? Grappling and striking are extremely different from each other and there is zero carryover of skills beyond basic athleticism.This is like saying that boxing is a bad combat sport because they boxers can't wrestle for shit
>>201309Literally 14 years old me that was writing emails to karate instructors seriously asking them do they teach to kill people aka real karate
>>201309>people who train don't watch it and even fewer actually participate in it.I train for sport I always watch blue, purple and brown world.I know many others who do the same.
>>201310Jiujitsu isn't a sportAnd I'll prove it to you with this one testIf you say "I'm going to a jiujitsu competition" the first thing the person you're talking to will say it "cool, what are the rules?"And you're going to likely say "modified such and such rule set, I'll need to read more for the details"If there's no commonly agreed upon way to play a sport then there is no sport
>>201316Powerlifting federations would make your head explode.
>>201317That's fine, I'd have no problem saying that's not a sport eitherWeight lifting has a primary purpose of getting strong, people trying to make a game out of it are just participating I a secondary distraction
>>201316Is there any sport that passes your definition?
>>201318>That's fine, I'd have no problem saying that's not a sport eitherThat means your definition is trash
>>201319Sure, there's lots of sports out there>>201320I lift weights/run/swim every day"Bro you're not a real lifter/runner/swimmer unless you're competing"And of course saying that to someone would be absurd because none of those things are sports in their own right, they're exercises first and some people make games out of themYou could say that about wrestling/mma/judo/sumo whatever because those are sports first, if you're not competing at it you're not really doing it. Your rank is inextricably linked to your competition performanceBJJ isn't this, it's a martial art first, a hobby second, and a sport 3rdNobody cares about sport bjj
>>201322>Nobody cares about sport bjjLMAO, it's vice versa - nobody caress about imaginary jiu jitsu with strikes
>>201324sorry kohai but you're wrong on this one. The primary reason people get into bjj is because they hear all the hype about how it'll make you a good fighterand it's startling to pretty much everyone when they start doing all this collar sleeve, and spider guard, and see crab rides and bolos and go "woah wtf is this shit? how is this helpful in a fight" and is the primary driving factor in beginners (and then again advanced people) wanting to do nogi only because there's less sporty bullshit fluff in itbeginners don't want it because it's not what they signed up for, then they deferred to the teachers authority and drink the koolaid as intermediates and do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify it, and then when you're advanced you have the confidence to once again say yeah nah that's bullshit and carve your own path
>>201322>You could say that about wrestling/mma/judo/sumo whatever because those are sports firstAnd your definition is total trash again for describing why they are sports. There is several kinds of wrestling with different rules - college, freestyle, greco-roman. There is lot of MMA federations with slightly different rules. It could seem follows your definition because there is only one judo federation, however there is also kosen judo and very young freestyle judo. I don't know anything about sumo.>"Bro you're not a real lifter/runner/swimmer unless you're competing"You can call yourself runner lifter and swimmer only because it is individual sports, you don't need a partner to REGULARLY do them. To measure your progress you don't need someone. But there is sports that require partner in order to measure progress (like combat sports) so you need to compete against each other or at least if you are not competing you need to train with someone who competes
>>201326Nothing what you said disproofs what I said, also 90% of high level greco roman wrestling is picrel and they can murder everyone in streetfight.
>>201327if you tell someone you're a boxer or a mixed martial artist and you aren't an active competitor you're going to get called out for being a phony and rightfully so. The implication is you're actively participating in the sportor to use a non-combat sport example "I play baseball", oh you have any games coming up I can come watch? oh well we don't actually play games against other people, we just practice amongst ourselves. Ok so you don't play baseballunlike jiujitsu where if you just practice amongst yourselves your STILL doing jiujitsu. There is no requirement at all to go out and compete against other peoplebjj is not tied to its sport, the sport is just a tertiary distraction, The activity is in the practice itself>>201328wrestling doesn't sell itself as a martial art, it knows what it is and sells itself as a sport. The fact that the sport happens to be about controlling another persons body also makes it an effective skill for fighting but that isn't the main goalthe main goal of bjj is to fight with
>>201331>if you tell someone you're a boxer or a mixed martial artist and you aren't an active competitor you're going to get called out for being a phony and rightfully so.This differes wildly from person to person and to talk this seriously you need to show statistics. >unlike jiujitsu where if you just practice amongst yourselves your STILL doing jiujitsu. There is no requirement at all to go out and compete against other people>bjj is not tied to its sport, the sport is just a tertiary distraction, The activity is in the practice itselfYou constantly use jiu jitsu and bjj like interchangeable therms. They are not. Please decide what you're talking about. Either way, no one cares about jiu jitsu and bjj is extremely popular. Again, nothing what you said disproofs what I said here >>201324 MMA is THE combat sport with grappling and strikes. Combat sambo is popular in Russia. No one cares about jiu jitsu with strikes. If such thing exists (I'm sure it exists) the rivalry is so low that shit tier wrestler could steamroll them without preparation.If there is no competitions in jiu jitsu with srikes it's even less interesting. They can't punch and can't grapple. In order to learn anything you must to compete or at least to train with someone who competes. Period.
>>201316Two reasons for this:1) Multiple organizations2) Scoring more complex than "ball hits net" or "punch hits face"Besides, the oh-so-massive rule differences always boil down to "can white belts heel hook?" and "does mount score two points or four points?">if you tell someone you're a boxer or a mixed martial artist and you aren't an active competitor you're going to get called out for being a phony Yeah, no, that's retarded, and so is anyone who says it
>>201334>If such thing existseddie bravo is showing there's a market for itand I'm using bjj as a synonym for jiujitsunobody on the outside cares about bjj, you tell someone you have a black belt in bjj and they'll say oh wow my 11 year old niece has a black belt it taekwondo is that similar?and people who participate in bjj don't freakin care about the sport side of it either. Go ask the blue belts to name the charter members of the death squadthey can'task them who came out of lloyd irvins teamthey can't, in fact they'll probably reply with "who?"you know about daisy fresh?yeahdo you know what the actual name of their team is?it's not daisy fresh??the only people anybody knows are gordon and craig + his associates because craig is good at social media and is carrying them along for the ridepeople just aren't into this shityou meet a baseball fan and they can tell you what team won what championship, who they played against, who was on the team going back 100 yearsjiujitsu has no fans of the sport, and the people pushing the sport are nobodies that never accomplished anything trying to get their "students" to achieve things on their behalfbasically football dads
>>201341>there is sports with different levels of consoooooming>there is sports with different ways of monetization>there is sports with different levels of popularity>this and some smart battlepictures mean some sports are not sportsWow, really makes you think.So what do you tell? Sports are sports if they have crowds of non participating fans? Then for example olympic weightlifting, gymnastics, freestyle wrestling (which you said even knows about itself that it is a sport) are not sports - no one cares about them except people who train.Also your picture is extremely stupid and this is what regular beer gut would say about greco roman or freestyle wrestling - they are boring and only god knows what happens when this two guys push each other. In fact this is what every regular guy would say about any sport he's not interested about.>I would just stand upLiterally heared how people say "I would just punch him in the face" about wrestlers. In fact, Max Dedik (russian kyokushin practioner and kickboxer) said in interview this is how all his friends view wrestling in the end of 90's - beginning of 2000's
>>201341>eddie bravo is showing there's a market for itAlso, what does it mean? There is several sports that combine grappling and striking with different levels of popularity and rivalry - MMA, combat sambo, pankration, kudo and sanda are first that come to mind. Karate Combat appeared recently. Does Eddie Bravo think it should exist another one low rivalry mixed combat sport no one cares about?
>>201326>"it's human chess" LMAO>>201341>"you don't understand all the technical nuance!" KEKLiterally what Master of Sports in both Freestyle Wrestling AND Sambo Petr Kretov says in interview when defends wrestling and sambo from accusations of incomprehensibility for the mass audience. It's in russian but stillhttps://youtu.be/PTVy1AbGft8?feature=shared
>>201347seems like you're trying to assign the position to me that I'm denying the existence of a sportI'm saying the sport is an afterthought to most people who practice it. People get into bjj to learn how to fightif you completely removed the entire sport from bjj and there was never a competition ever again you'd barely see a dip in participation at all
do you guys prefer no-gi or gi?
>>201375If I could help it I'd only wear a gi to play judo and never any other time
>>201178burnout, I show up every week and haven't been promoted in 2+ years since getting mineask for what I need to work on"i donno just pick something"
>>201379>still hasn't picked something for focused improvement in 2+ yearsngmi
>>201380oh I did now I just didn't like the answer at the time
>>201381Neat, what'd you pick and how's it going?
>>201382Passing and I think it's gonna go better now that I did a two day seminar and all we did was pass
>>201379 Had a candid conversation with the owner today, opened 3 years ago with just 5 people and by the beginning of the second year it was up to 80 But the business has been contracting for a while now and it's clear to everybody He has been denial and coping aboutSummer time, "well it's always a slow time of year when it's nice out", fall "well kids are going back to school now so all then parents and students wont be here", and when half the amount of people show up to the Christmas party as the year before, "oh well you know people travel this time of year, and all through the winter well the weather isn't great and it's hard to get here plus there's a flu going around", spring: "well the weather is getting nice so people are just spending some more time with the family during break"Finally today he said "what's wrong with this place?"And gave it to him straight, look around at the room, there are no beginners here anymoreThere's more blue belts and up than there are white belts and people are tired of seeing the same shit over and over againThe advanced guys just tune it out at this point. This is not as important to The people that come here as it is to you, it's just a hobby to them so if they aren't being engaged and having a good time when they come here they are going to go do something else And especially because for a lot of the working guys they only have an hour or 2 a week that they can get away to come and do this. They need to be rolling as much as possible, that's what they're here to donot practicing some silly lasso guard sweeps nobody will ever use Students need to be the leader of their own instruction, watch people roll and then ask them where they are struggling or give them advice based on what you see, stop teaching jiujitsu 101 classes ad nauseum
>>201335I wouldn't call myself a boxer unless I was a professional and I did it for a living. Otherwise its cringeI competed amatuer and when someone asked if I'm a boxer once I didn't even know how to reply. Its better to say you train a little bit. Same with any combat sportUnless you're doing it for a living and it's your life then I wouldn't say it's who I am. Better to be unnasuming and just train for fun, to keep sharp and fitness. And those last two will make you a better fighter than someone who does nothing
any tips for escaping turtle? what's your go-to sequence?
>>201384how do you roll if you don't know any technique? I think your gym is dying but not because you're drilling lasso sweepsI think the economy is shit right now and people are looking at where they can spend that $130-190 a month in a better way than something that can lead to injuries and butthurtAt least your gym owner was eventually open to feedback, most aren't and keep doing the same shit and wonder why no one shows up to the morning class anymore and just make copeI changed gyms for a lot of reasons but a big one was the owner cared less and less about his gym and it showed
>>200326>I know people who go full primal fight/flight and they have no recollection of anythingMust make it hard to learn anything, if they switch their brains off like that when they're supposed to be training. Why would someone do this? Over-competitiveness?
>>201361>if you completely removed the entire sport from bjj and there was never a competition ever again you'd barely see a dip in participation at allI already answered this, just pull your eyes from ass. And I don't understand how your cringe battle pictures relate to this conversation
>>201404>any tips for escaping turtle?Stand up.
>>201417what if i'm not the real slim shady?
>>201405You don't need to teach people all these techniques, you just teach them what the game is and how to play it>human chessBut I'll use chess an example, one of the most complex games around, billions of possible moves. but it takes 5 minutes to show the game to someone for the first time and just explain how the pieces work and what your goal is and they can just immediately start playing And it'll take some time for them to remember what they're supposed to do without asking "can i move this piece here?", they'll make mistakes "oh wait I didn't mean to do that, let me redo" but they can play the game After they are playing the game is when you can start teaching them about openings, and gambits, and piece management, and board controlNone of which you need if your only goal is to simply playThe people interested in the extraneous bullshit are already reading about it and researching it on their own and they're getting it from better sources than you, so your job as a teacher is to use your experience to help them make sense of it and formulate action plans to develop it.So going back to bjj, it's like do you think a purple belt+ isn't acutely aware of what areas he needs improvement in?And then you got a guy that has a problem where people keep getting off the hook when he's in double trouble and he tries to transition from the secondary leg to the primary legSo he gets an instructional and studies the content and when he gets to class "Ok guys today we're doing scissor sweeps"Man fuck your scissor sweeps, what am I paying you for when everything I need I'm learning from instructionals and then you won't even let me practice it here? And you end up in a really bad spot now when the students are getting together to workshop things on the side of the mat on their own instead of with you Then they make the decision hey let's just buy a couple mats we can put them in my garage? what do we need this place for it would be cheaper
>>201404Yeah it's just stand upIf he doesn't have an arm wrapped around your far side hip he can't do anything to you
>>201436And if they do have an arm wrapped around your far side?
>>201445You gotta roll hard into him
>>201447Won't that just expose my back?
Is anyone going to watch an Aussie chad dethrone the king on thursday?>https://www.flograppling.com/articles/12626430-gordon-ryan-to-make-grappling-return-at-wno-24-vs-josh-saunders-on-june-20Reminder, Josh has only been training for 4 years. He couldn't cut it in Australias national Rugby league comp and switched to BJJ during covid for fun. If he wins, it's just going to show the new meta is athleticism. BJJ is a martial art that has always prided itself on equalising a fight for the smaller and less athletic against physically superior opponents. Well, now with CGI and more money moving into the sport with its growing popularity, whats going to happen when proper athletes, not just the Gracies, begin training from when they can walk? High school wrestlers are already dominating ADCC. It's over for the weak geeks who have given BJJ a bad name.
>>201478gordon is 6'2" and on all the steroids, athleticism isn't really a concernand could they not get an artist? that isn't even good AI slop>>201475no you're getting your back to the floor by doing thatyou make yourself as perpendicular to him as possible and shoulder roll as hard as you can over the shoulder closest to him, and as you do that you swing your legs around to put them between you two for a guard
>>199756not even true
>>201481>gordon is 6'2" and on all the steroids, athleticism isn't really a concernUnless there's someone larger than 6'2 whose on more steroids and has a greater athletic base? Taking steroids doesn't nullify someone else's athletic ability. That's elementary school level science.You're missing the point entirely anyway. The more money involved, and the more popular the sport gets, the greater the pool of athletes. The main reason Judokas embarrass BJJ practitioners is because there's Olympic level athletes pouring into the former and not the later. Saunders is an NRL reject. NRL is one of 3 football leagues in Australia, a nation of only 25 million. There's 500 players on lists in the NRL.If he can even be competitive with after 4 years of training with Gordon, who got his black belt in 2015, then the its going to expose BJJ geekzoids HARD.
>>201478Gordon is going to exhaust him and win via submission. >proper athletes, not just the GraciesIt's not 1999. There have been D1 wrestlers and judo olympians competing in BJJ for a long time
>>201497>The more money involved, and the more popular the sport gets, the greater the pool of athletesthere still isn't any money involvedcraig doing this potentially 1 off invite only money laundering competition didn't elevate the earnings for grapplers as a wholethe sport isn't popular at all, it's existing on the backs of whales personally financing everything
>>201516>judo olympians competing in BJJ for a long timename 5
>>201475A lesson that all BJJ guys need to learn is that exposing your back isn't the same as giving up your back. You see it in MMA all time.>fighter bases up on all fours>Joe Rogan: OHHHHHH HE'S GOTTA BE CAREFUL HE'S GIVING UP HIS BACK>fighter stands up>Joe Rogan: and he's outSame thing with judo turning throws. The majority opinion in BJJ circles historically is that going for a shoulder or hip throw instantly leads to you getting choked out because you exposed your back for a microsecond. The reality is that big turning throws are more popular than they've ever been in the modern no-gi scene and you rarely see anyone get punished off of it.
>>201551I can think of 3 off the top of my head (Rhadi Ferguson, Satoshi Ishii, Travis Stevens) and a dozen D1 & NCAA champ wrestlers, but you will still come up with some retarded argument I'm sure. Idk why it's shocking that someone who trains a different sport doesn't do well, even if they are athletic. The judoka cock sucking on this board is so obnoxious
>>201553joe rogan is operating under a 2004 understanding of jiujitsu and its effectiveness
Is there a good video that goes over the basics of stand up grappling/wrestling? Like, WHY are underhooks good, basic positions, takedowns, counters etc.
>>201420part of what you are paying for is a spot to train, partners who all agree to show up at the same time and follow the guidelines/rules setyou're paying for a guy who knows more than you (you hope anyway) to be there to mentor youI get what you are saying fuck the "kata" drill move shit>>201558https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfP7bD8JhqEI like this one.
>>201555NTA The other two sure, but Travis Stevens never competed in any big BJJ tournaments.
>>201478I think every ultimate elite of every sport are 6ft+ and roieded men
>>201533>the sport isn't popular at allThe good thing about CGI is we will get an idea of how many views the sport could get.BJJ is becoming more professional, its gaining popularity (pic related), most gyms have kids classes, it has the interest of a lot of older white collar professionals (very ripe consoooomer market).>>201516>Gordon is going to exhaust him and win via submission.Even if Gordon dominates, the fact that someone training for 4 years is able to compete against him is insane. Can you imagine someone training in tennis for 4 years then being asked to have a televised match against Djokovic? BJJ is in its infancy, it hasnt had a 100 years to grow like Judo, wrestling, etc. The new meta will be athleticism.>>201555>Idk why it's shocking that someone who trains a different sport doesn't do well, even if they are athleticNot what I'm saying at all. Athletes from adjacent sports transitioning late in career and being competitive (which happens more often than it should) isn't the point.It's that with BJJs growing popularity, there will be athletically gifted individuals training in it from a younger and younger age.After rolling with rugby players, Craig (ironically) commented he's glad theres no money in the sport because he would hate to compete against proper athletes.
No gi today 97 degreed fahreheit and no ac
Could BJJ have saved him?https://is2.4chan.org/gif/1718502183414689.webm
>>201597Slip n slide
>>201607Yeah fat boy doesn't appear to be applying pressure well despite his weight. Standard mount escapes should work. At least get to half guard and stand up
>>201607Probably but I'll mention that grappling against a gelatinous man like that is just different, when you try to frame their flesh just melts around you like a tentYou try to push and just sink into it, it's a really difficult propositionBloatmaxxing is an effective strategy
>>201607couldve tried to get a knee in front and recover guard in the beginning, or maybe get into a half guard by snatching a leg when billy moves to mount instead of laying there like a dead fish, but i assume he already got hit or thrown prior to the start of the video which is why he seemed so concussedeven if you did successfully escape or sweep billy, youd get beaten the fuck down by the 15 different niggas standing around you thereso maybe getting choked and punched out by billy was in fact the correct move
>>201629Getting punched out by 10 people you don't give a fuck because they're pussies who couldn't handle you fair and squareEither one way you're getting beaten up I'd rather be able to say they couldn't fight fair
>>201633You probably won't be saying much of anything
>>201633i mean, yeah, sure, that will be comforting to think about when you're eating through a tube and shitting your bed for the next month and scheduling with your dentist to have five of your front teeth reconstructed
>>201634He wasn't saying much of anything and pissed himself from having one guys weight crushing him. I'd rather get KO'd by a few guys
>>201635Looks like that's what happened anyway
>>201642>and pissed himselfHe's dead, that was his muscles relaxing
>>201644No
>>201646Wash your gi and stop pissing on the mats.
>>201607Kenshi IRLI wonder what permanent damage he has from this. He's breathing so he's still alive at the end. I don't think he got hit very hard but he was unconscious so that probably makes it a lot worse.
>>199628Anons, I had to watch my instructor do omoplata drills WHILE I HAVE FUCKING RINGWORM AND CANT WRESTLE ANYONE IN THE DOJO. I'VE BEEN HAVING RINGWORMS POP UP ALL OVER MY FUCKING SKIN I NEED TO FUCKING THROW SOMEONE
They've been going away now but their is one on my fucking face when all of them have been going away I CANT TAKE IT I NEED TO FUCKING CHOKE SOMEONE
>>201676Well I hope you've learned your lesson about not waiting too long to shower after class
i decided i want to become a wrestler so i've been doing nothing but single and double legsshit is hard even though nobody at my gym knows how to wrestle worth a shit, myself includedleaping at people's legs like a cheetah with asperger's also lets me practice escaping from turtle which is nice, since that's been the other thing i've been working on this month
What about this guy?Could BJJ have saved him?https://is2.4chan.org/gif/1718640330506810.webm
>>201699Literally just stick your forehead in the crook of the other guys neck like between the head and the shoulder and you've just won 100% of jiujitsu wrestling exchangesThey have no idea what to do in the face of this elementary school technique
>>201700I think bro is high on heroin or something.
>>201607Always cracks me in this videos niggers looting the unconscious dude
>just accidentally said “same same” to my ESL Japanese instructor It’s over.
Anybody else get weird when rolling with black belts?I can body lock pass almost any brown-belt if I 100% concentrate my effort. If I slip up I know they will capitalise so I don’t give an inch. However whenever I roll with black belts I feel like I can’t try 100%… I don’t know if it’s out of respect or because I know there already 3 steps ahead but I get caught by them in simple stuff I don’t allow purple/browns to do.What’s going on?
>>201704https://youtu.be/3N0YLRunmEQ?si=BI3GUU0bxAOgOizv
>>201705Black belts are brown belts who are better at making friends, quit letting it get to your head and just be normal.
>>201705It's another reason to abolish the belt system, it's a halo effectIt has been documented, put a black belt on a white belt as a prank and he'll start winning against upper belts because psychologically they're afraid to do anything and just accept positions out of respectBjj is a cult as much as anything
>>201705Jon Jones is a purple belt. Is he more or less scary than your black belts?
>>201729Wow, it really shows the power of Brazilian jiujitsu that someone with his pedigree is merely of purple belt levelHow can you deny its the most powerful martial art? Just imagine what a black belt must be capable of
I've recently returned to gi training after 3 years of exclusively no-gi, and I fucking hate this shit so much. It's genuinely affecting how much I train because I just really don't feel like getting yanked around or having gi burn on my face/neck
>>201739skill issuet. wrestler turned judoka
>>201739It sucks, it's stupid, nobody should ever do it, it's a crutch for the unskilled and unathletic that can't control someone with their body alone and require he first wrap himself up in ropes
>>201725>>201728unbelievable cope.
Stopping on the way to classMakin poor choices lads
>>201757We spent 15 minutes after morning class today telling shitting while training stories. God speed.
>>201760;_;7
>>201478Where can I stream this >for free
>>201739>>201748see >>201752
>outwrestled the gigantic roid monkey last night in no-gi>even took him down once with a whizzer/overhook Harai ogoshi WAGMI
>>201752>>201768You haven't told me where I'm wrong
>>201740>>201768>having a preference is a copeYou faggots attempt to make an argument out of everything lol>>201766>Where can I stream thisGood luck. Besides Polaris I almost never see grappling streams but maybe times are changing and this card will be stacked enough to get some streams.
I made it out boysI certainly didn't feel good, but it wasn't a total disasterWas slow had the sweats and heart burn but it's ok because I'm heaps better than everyone who was there tonight so just laying there and barely moving was enough
>>201739>>201782>The lapel abraded my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The cotton gi sleeves disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of fresh linens and dryer sheets made me sick. The grips -- binding like shackles -- gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after rolling in the gi just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.
>>201757>>201761>>201783playing with fire there lad
>>201802kek i was thinking of the exact same thing
>>201782Ended up just signing up to flo, I’ll cancel the subscription after ADCC.Daniel Moosy just dominated Felipe Costa. Good start for Aussie chads and B-team.Ethan Cren also dominated Corba after escaping some early leg engagements.Another B-team win and another ecological loss.
>>201875>>201478Gordon subbed Saunders within 10km to a heel hook. Saunders tactic of bench pressing Gordon helped him survive longer than most, but wasn’t able to get the biscuits as they say down under
>>201903>Gordon subbed Saunders within 10kmWas he chasing him?
>>201903I love how whenever Gordon is tired or trying to conserve energy, he can just decide to return to the DDS leglock game and win matches with it. He seems to have lost a lot of muscle but it's great to see him compete. As much as he annoys the fuck out of everyone, he really is on another level
>>201911He probably spent as much time teaching it after as he did actively using it. Good way to cement it in.
I feel like you can escape from someone if there's no strikes involved. If someone heavier than you falls on you and there's strikes involved you're done for
>>201968If there's strikes involved they have to create space somewhere to generate the powerThat's why just standing up can't he harped on enough and why jiujitsu is objectively wrong for insisting you should fight on the ground
>>201969They can just elbow you or headbutt you dumbass
>>201974They need to move in order to do thatEven an inch or 2 of space should be enough to make magic happen if your jiujitsu is any goodIf you can't escape a novice I don't know what to tell ya
test
>>202001Interesting. This thread isn't bumping anymore.
>>202002The thread hit its bump limit. It'll stay alive for some number of days or weeks because /xs/ is a slow board. Once it gets closer to page 10 someone will make a new thread. >Why won't my thread bump?>All threads have a set bump limit (varies board to board). When this limit is reached, a thread will no longer "bump" to the top of the board, causing the thread to descend through the pages until it is bumped off of the last page and pruned. This method of post-limiting, while sometimes inconvenient, assures that content is kept fresh on the boards.https://www.4chan.org/faq#bump
>>202002Didn't make a new thread because the last one is still alive. Once that one drops off we can migrate to a new one
https://youtu.be/4gzaIz6ppHIDoes your gym have any banned techniques? What is the sparring etiquette like?My gym defaults to IBJJF rules, and when a higher belt is sparring with a lower belt, you go by the lower belt's ruleset.You can still talk to your partner and agree to whatever rules you want to, but unless otherwise specified, it's always IBJJF rules.In regards to the video, I think kani-basami is banned for good reason. When you have hundreds of takedowns available, why would you choose to perform the one takedown with the worst reputation for causing knee injuries?
Hey I gotten into using turtle instead of guard on a off hand comment from a wrestling bubby any tips or resources on attacking from turtle?
>>202027No jumping closed guard (flying submissions are OK).Also my coach teaches the mat return/valley drop in a certain way to avoid the risk of blowing out your partner's knee.Just, don't plant your ass on your partner's knee in general is a good rule of thumb. I've never heard anyone specifically prohibit kani basami, but geez at this point that's just a common sense thing. The guy in Rokas' video is a douche.Our gym rules generally default to roughly IBJJF equivalent, but nobody's anal about it. You'll see the occasional cheeky wrist lock, etc.
>>201975They don't need to move to bite your nose off though
>>202027When I used to do karate the teacher actually wanted us to be able to fight so we'd do lots of non-karate stuff that seemed useful, and this is back when Cung le was fighting and he was doing the scissor takedowns in the UFC so we were copying that in karate classI laugh thinking about how we had no idea the risk we were putting ourselves in copying something we saw on tvIt's all about the knees, any kind of takedown that compromises the knees can't be allowed during practice, that includes jumping stuffIf someone jumps a guard I will slam them and I have and faced no consequences for it because I immediately said "I told you not to jump guard on me" and the teacher looked over and gave a shrug If you do something reckless towards me don't expect me to now care about your safetyYou hear the phrase a lot "remember, I go second" meaning you hurt me you're getting hurt back
Not a practitioner. Just wondering that if you got someone in full mount during a street fight, couldn't that guy just grab your dick and win?
>>202121most dudes that practice combat sports have small dicks so there isnt much to grab ontobut even if you did, that's one less hand you've got to defend / brace for incoming blows fromso while you're massaging his pecker, you're still eating knuckle sandwiches to the head and making zero progress getting out of the positionand just like bas rutten once said: never fuck with a guy in a dominant position, because now you're not only getting knocked out, you're also getting your teeth stomped in afterwardshe told a great story on some podcast about the time a ninjutsu guy came to his MMA gym:>bas is demonstrating a RNC for the class>ninjutsu guy scoffs and says he would just poke you in the eyes to escape the choke>bas is intrigued and wants to test this out, ninjutsu guy agrees>bas gets ready and locks up the RNC>"alright, now in three seconds i'm going to start choking you, and if you poke me in the eye, i'm gonna break your neck. okay? one, two, three, go"
>>201404If they don't have their hands connected, grab one of both of their wrists and stand up. If they have them connected, grab their wrists, stand up, turn slightly into them, push on their wrists while leaning your upper back towards them and your hips away from them. Their grip will break and once you turn around, you're back to a neutral position.
>>202123Bas "if a guy is arguing with you in a restaurant grab a steak knife off the table and stab him in the neck" rutten gives a lot of bad advice
>>202145Take Bas's advice?Dun yu evbar due dis.
>>202123Better question if you're in full guard couldn't the guy just grab your balls and squeeze
>>202153grabbing the balls isn't some end-all-be-all strategy to instantly win every fightdepending on what kind of pants you're wearing, the fabric might be too tight to allow a firm squeeze on the nuts. you'd have to dig in pretty deep, all the while the guy on bottom is pulling his knees to his chest and off-balancing you, and with both arms digging, there's a chance you'd get swept because you have nothing to base with.and again, you're leaving yourself open to be punched.you're in a much better position to just start raining fists down on the guy rather than trying to jerk him off.
>>202161>depending on what kind of pants you're wearingThis it has happened to me twice once in jeans and the other in rugby shorts.I barely felt a thing in the jeans, and in the shorts it hurts but not enough to put me out of the fight.
>>202167>This it has happened to me twiceWhat are you doing in your life that this has happened twice?
>>202185nothing much I am in my 20s so that's like one dick grab every ten yearsOnce was a rugby game and a guy did a shit tackle, he pretty much just grab my dick and tried to pull me to the ground by it.The other time was the one STREET fight I got in, I did something close to a muay thai clinch then he tried and failed to grab my dick.
>>202161Or just punch them in the balls
knees hurtin tonight ladsalso>no air conditioningfuck off with that. There's no data suggesting working out in the heat is beneficial, it just makes the experience suck
>>202203It's beneficial to people who don't spend their entire day in a climate controlled box. Your body acclimates to the seasons and air conditioning impedes that. If the building has bad air circulation and gets hotter than the temperatures outside in the shade then there's an argument to be made for using air conditioning, otherwise it's just an unnecessary crutch for domesticated urbanites.
Why aren't slams from closed guard allowed?>you could hurt them!So they should open their guard to not get slammed? its their fault for staying in a compromised position.
>>202207you answered your own question
>>202205there were ants, spiders, flies, and even some maggots in there from the door being openturn the air on and shut the door
>>202207slams arent allowed in the gym or at competitions because causing potentially irreversible damage to some hobbyist because you can't open guard is just not worth it for a plastic medal or so that you can 'win' a sparring roundcompetitions at the highest level? yeah sure i guess go for itjudo has a pretty good rule that if both of your knees come off the ground in closed guard, you get reset, because the assumption is that now you could slam the other guy.for BJJ, i think you should at least get a disadvantage for latching onto the guy like a koala.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVEfShyEw7kHas BJJ ruined your body?
>>199628I would like to know what is a good stretching for bjj? In best case it would not only bjj but also every other part of the body
>>202203>Domesticated BJJ nerds are crying about air conditioningLmfao
>>202213I think I've got the early onset symptoms of tennis elbow or something similar, makes doing pull-ups a pain in the ass.I have also let one too many guillotines go on until the back of my neck has started to pop like a bowl of rice krispies, so there's some stiffness there.I have learned my lesson to tap early to neck cranks.
>>202213BJJ is a derivative of Judo. Judo’s founder is Jigoro Kano and in his book Mind Over Muscles he explains clearly that one of the main reasons for developing Judo was to create healthy bodies and minds. The two main principles of Judo are:Seiryoku Zenyo (Maximum Efficiency) so we move our bodies is such a way as to reduce effort and strain thus not overloading any particular structures and avoiding injury as best as possible. Jita Kyoei (Mutual benefit and prosperity) in which we also consider the welfare and growth of our training partners. The application of these principles to daily life was THE most important to him including its application to work and family life. To sacrifice your health, income and family in order to train in the dojo flies in the face of these principles. Training should be adapted around work and family even if it means training on your own in many different ways. I’m not a big fan of competitive Judo it is mainly concerned with the win just as BJJ is, and the win is the most superficial of life’s achievements.
>>202216I care about good training. Unless you're one of those bozos that thinks not drinking water during training will make you a tuff gai >:( and to "push through the pain"All of that 1960s gym teacher lore you cling to only makes you a worse athlete, you're working twice as hard for a quarter of the gains
>>199628Is it normal for a bjj coach to complete ignore my existence. Not even acknowledge my hellos or goodbyes? I get I'm only a one stripe white belt but that's just normal stuff and I pay for his salary in the end so nigga should be atleast gratefulThe rest of the coaching team are pretty nice guys that I can chill with but the head coach is just cold and aloof
>>202249>Wahhh wwahhh I'm middle class posh soft boy
>>202251>multiple coachesYour gym probably has enough turn over and general membership that he just doesn't bother until you're at a certain level. Or he's a dick.
>>202256Is it a problem if he's a dick? I don't want him to sandbag me once I get to blue belt level. He's fairly professional and is non aggressive so I don't mind him being aloof I just don't wanna stay a white belt forever
>>202254Know how I know I'd beat you in jiujitsu easily? Well you said posh so you're probably British and your jiujtisu is shit over there, but aside from that and more importantly because I know your training sessions just aren't nearly as productive as mineYear over year I'll make more gains than you, just how it is
>>202259Can't answer that without knowing him, but if he's professional, just keep saying hi coach and keep it at that until he tells you to fuck off or says hi back.
>>202259You have 1 stripe and you're worried about one coach not giving you enough attention...If he's answering your questions and not being a complete asshole who cares
>>202259 I am not going to take the side of rudeness or make excuses if he's not being very nice, but I am also understanding if he is burnt out from fielding beginner questions all the time which is something that happens as a teacherBeginners come and go, its not worth getting to know themHe should still be polite and at least acknowledge you if you say hello to him, But keep in mind as well He's working right now and he's getting ready to teach a class and has some things on his mind. it's distracting when you have 30 people walking up to you trying to shake your hand and have a short conversation with you if you greet him just walk by say hello, and if he gives you a hey and a head nod that's enough Don't go say hello to him if he's having a conversation with somebody or it looks like he's busy, And that's the same for when you're leaving at the end of class, just give a general see you later everybody as you're walking out the door.And to circle back to questions you gotta realize a lot of white belt questions are really bad, They are either way too vague or it's about something totally unrelated to what you are supposed to be working on and when that's the case as an instructor that's really annoying, Because it comes across like you aren't listening to me and so I don't really care to answer your question if you're not going to listen to the stuff I'm telling you.When it comes to overly vague questions, most white belt questions are like I'm having trouble doing the arm bar from guard ok?? And??Just like, he keeps getting away when I do itAnd it's like bro do you really want me to sit here and fix your entire arm bar from guard in 30 seconds? We're going to need a whole class to figure out precisely what's going wrong with it and all the things you don't even realize you're doing wrong Buy a private or get really specific, I mean precisely what is the problem you're having?If you don't know then come ask when you figure it out
>>200195>how much warm up and generic physical exercises they doMy local "japanese" ju-jutsu club don't do any warm-ups at all, because "if you're attacked, you won't be warmed up". This mostly amounts to none of them actually exerting themselves during practice.
>>200986If my partner sucks, I just go on defense and let them experiment. Can also be a good time to try funny moves I don't usually get to use.
any good tips or instructionals for half guard? white belt btw.
>>202292>tipsDon't lay flat on your back>instructionalsLachlan Giles and Danaher are my usual favorites, but you could honestly get pretty far just from watching youtube videosI would highly recommend working on some half guard passing too
Just did my first class, partner was a more experienced white belt, buy like 6'4 and 240lb of muscle. Felt like i couldnt do much cause his limbs were just so much larger.Was fun tho, will probably continue. I bet i burned like 1k calories, i was sweating like crazy
>>202108Cung Le's scissor takedown is safer despite being flashier than the ones you commonly see wrecking knees in BJJ. He posts his arms out so the weight is mainly on the floor rather than concentrated directly on the uke's knees. He also has one leg sweeping higher on the torso, again not directly on the knees.
>>202272He's fairly professional so when I have retarded questions he answers them. It's just that his rudeness is kind of weird. Maybe it's his personality but straight up ignoring me while shaking other people's hands in front of me makes you feel like I rubbed him the wrong way or something. I've never seen anyone seethe this much about my existence. It's like I fucked his mom or something
>>202302I think the Imanari roll is the safest way to do it. No falling body weight, can easily transition to an open guard or leg entanglement if it fails. All of the flash and none of the catastrophic knee injuries.
>>202214Bump
>>202304the roll is great and be done as a Ankle Pick toobut I always think a arm drag or a duck under works better for me
>>202298>BJJ beats size and strength they said
>>202261You weigh 70kg and have never been in an actual fightSit down soft air conditioning boy
>>202350>first time going to bjj>be 1.8m, 100kg and can at least bench press 90kg (3-4 times)> trainer, female, 1.70, thin>roll with her>while I literally shaking and sweating by trying to use all my force, she just chills and taps me in a few minutes
>>202351this is the funniest thing I have seen trying to act hard because of air conkek
>>202358I don't think he's acting uncommonly tough so much as insinuating that you're uncommonly soft.
>>202351>70kgI'm 98 in your communist units
>>202356You likely were wearing a gi and voluntarily started already on the groundStart standing in regular workout clothes and enjoy your new wife
>>202358>Crying and whining because of air conLmfao
>>202367not having a clean, climate controlled training environment is indefensibleyou're not some gladiator living a stoic life preparing to die on the battle fieldyou're a low level IT worker with an emerging porn addiction you haven't come to terms with yet and have been doing jiujitsu once or twice a week for the last 18 months
>>202367I don't train with it I just don't see a point I talking about it >>202361it just a dumb thing to even care aboutlike>the mats we train on are so hard that concrete feels soft
>>202372>it just a dumb thing to even care aboutThat's likely why he's mocking you for bitching about it.
>>202374I wasn't the one to post about it to begin with I just pointed out train without it is funny thing to have pride inI don't train with it and it doesn't make a differences when I go somewhere that does have it
>spend all your time training in no AC>compete in a high school gym that's blasting it>lose
>>202376>>202377I once lost a match I should have easily won in a wrestling tournament because I was used to the cold (no AC, just a cold basement wrestling room in a cold region) but they kept that building really hot and I didn't realize how dehydrated I had gotten before my last match (nearly blacked out afterwards, worst dehydration I've ever experienced). Having the opposite happen seems less likely but perhaps that's my bias as a snowman with better cold than heat tolerance.
>>202379I love my gym in the winter its like a ice box, you can where a sweater well rolling. In summer it is almost a steam room.But I am pretty fine with cutting water and the feeling of dehydrated since I was doing since 5 grad so I have never got that feeling just training
>>202379heat is like altitude training, the science is settled on thisunless you're doing daily training in high temperatures your body isn't going to develop the adaptations to it, and I that means every day, not a few times a week, every dayyour cardio will be just as shit in a hot room as anybody else, it's just that now your jiujitsu is worse because you couldn't maximized your training productivity
>>202384>unless you're doing daily training in high temperaturesIf it's summer why aren't you doing this? Touch grass.
>>202388humans are cold weather animals
>>202371>Wahh I can't train without muh airconIf bjj is for it worker larping pussies why are you trying to defend your air con honour so much? Lmao
>>202446your insistence on clinging to objectively shitty training methods instead of embracing modern technology is exactly why things like karate are irrelevant now
first competition on sunday. 33yo white belt practicing for 2 years, all i feel comfortable with is trying sweeps from half guard and i have like 1/8 success with them. i'm really annoying when i get to half guard, people usually cannot get out. my hope is that i can score a sweep from there and hold on to those two points. what do you think?i didn't care about losing before but my teacher was like 'yeah i think anon might do well, at least get the first round' and now i kind of don't want to disappoint him. i wish he hadn't said that
>>202451good luck
>>202214>>202337ANOTHER shameless bump
>>202451find out if they have air conditioning
>>202454>>>/fit/70348219
>>202451i'm now a little bit drunk from drinking beer (i'm a little bit alcoholic). today i woke up like half a pound less than the bracket's weight. i'm probably going to be like one or two pounds over that tomorrow. am i going to make it? how do i dehydrate myself on saturday if it comes to that?>>202460no
>>202464my first comp I dropped a good 6lbs felt like shit and they just asked for my weight no scale needed.
>>202460this guy right here is full of the false bravado only bjj can givetruly the gayest sport of them all
>>202450>He thinks his air conditioned it worker le ebin heckin Reddit murder cuddling isn't even worse than karateLmfao
i would kill for air conditioning
>>202498>the reason I train without AC is so that my children won't have to
>AC is on>Asian girl feet aren't sweety enough to smell>AC is off>everyone else stinks so much you can't smell Asian girl feet
>>201581BJJ has existed for almost exactly 100 years.
Just realised all these "omg bjj works in the street" videos are someone basically just sat on a drunken crackhead (which anyone even slightly physically able can do)You will never see bjj used against an athletic person on the street. KOTS proves this even furtherThen you have MMA which due to strict rules and soft surfaces stuff like bjj is made to look useful
>>202518you make good pointsbjj is like going to your last tool firstyou ignored your opportunity to knock him out with strikesyou ignored your opportunity to knock him out by throwing him to the groundyou immediately resorted to rolling on ground with him to try and choke himas chris paines has put it, bjj is like walking into a james bond movie 2 minutes late and you missed the whole first part of the fight scene
>>202519Punches and headbutts negate handfighting and most of clinchwork completely
>>202518>the fucking >muhKOTS fag againKOTS is a retarded reference point.There is nothing in there that we haven't seen in regular MMA, apart from maybe biting and the concrete floor which frankly makes little difference>soccer kicks, stomps, 12-6 elbowswere a thing in PRIDE, to no noticeable differenceThe fights in KOTS look different because the vast majority of fighters have no martial arts background beyond "le tuff guy streetfighter">soft surfaceshard surfaces would only make any grappling style more dangerous because every throw is now a KO threat>>202520This is utterly idiotic, otherwise you wouldn't see any form of ground grappling in MMA>inb4 strict rulezpray tell, which rules?
>>202523>I'm a deadly fighter because I roll around in air conditioned rooms not these literal street fighting hooligans though, they're fake fighters with no martial arts experience!Lmfao
>>202526>I have no experience fighting a semi competent opponent>I am an expert on street fightz™
>>202523>were a thing in PRIDE, to no noticeable differenceApart from grounded opponents getting socker kicked to sleep?>hard surfaces would only make any grappling style more dangerous because every throw is now a KO threatOf all the clean suplexes, arm spins, hip throws in KOTS... NONE of them resulted in a KO. The fight continued >This is utterly idiotic, otherwise you wouldn't see any form of ground grappling in MMAYou don't see any ground fighting in true no rules fighting because eye gouging and headbutting makes it obsoleteOf course that's too brutal to be in a mainstream sports show
>>202527>He thinks the guys in KOTS are untrainedThey would ragdoll you. Most are clearly trained in muay Thai, boxing, wrestling or all three. Haven't seen much bjj though. Probably because it doesn't work unless the rules force it?
>>202530Again, tell me how MMA rules "force" bjj to work?
>>202529>headbutting>eye gougingCan be effective, sure, I don't think either really counters grappling. Namely because I can hardly imagine a situation where doing so would be preferable to just punching your opponent instead, unless done as a pure desperation move when you're already getting choked out
>>202531By removing headbutts, eye gouges, stomps, soft flooring, downward elbows
>>202531It doesn't even work in MMAbjj only works in bjj competitions Even submission grappling is quickly becoming dominated by wrestling and judoThe only places bjj is successful are in rule sets that don't punish you for sitting directly to the ground
>>202542So now we've gone from>MMA rules allow BJJ to workto>Actually BJJ doesn't work in MMANevermind that we see it in at least half the fights and every single serious fighter trains ground grappling in some capacity>Even submission grappling is quickly becoming dominated by wrestling and judoFeel free to post an example from a big name competition. Because last I checked, like 99% of successful submission grapplers train BJJ
>>202547>every single serious fighter trains ground grapplinghere we go again with a cultist saying bjj invented ground fighting>99% of successful submission grapplers train BJJI see mostly home grown americans and australians winning competitions with shit they came up with themselves
>>202550>winning competitions with shit they came up with themselvesthis is really funny
>>202550Ok so now it's not BJJ despite it being descended, not only in spirit but in terms of actual instructor lineage, and despite virtually every fighter training in submission grappling calling it BJJ, because the practitioners are not Brazilian?BJJ and submission grappling are effectively the same thing and it's retarded to pretend otherwise
>>202552>despite it being descended, not only in spirit but in terms of actual instructor lineage,from BJJGoddammit
>>202552>BJJ and submission grappling are effectively the same thing and it's retarded to pretend otherwise
>>202552>BJJ and submission grappling are effectively the same thingsubmission grappling is something men have been doing competitively for thousands of yearsfamously an account from 564BC "The antagonist of Arrichion, having already clinched him around the middle, thought to kill him; already he had wound his forearm about the other’s throat to shut off the breathing, while, pressing his legs on the groins and winding his feet one inside each knee of his adversary, he forestalled Arrichion’s resistance by choking him till the sleep of death thus induced began to creep over his senses. But in relaxing the tension of his legs he failed to forestall the scheme of Arrichion; for the latter kicked back with the sole of his right foot (as the result of which his right side was imperiled since now his knee was hanging unsupported), then with his groin he holds his adversary tight till he can no longer resist, and, throwing his weight down toward the left while he locks the latter’s foot tightly inside his own knee, by this violent outward thrust he wrenches the ankle from its socket"
>>202564I wish I could be that based without making my wife sad. https://www.theoi.com/Text/PhilostratusElder2A.html#6
>>202581anonymous wants to have death in glorious combat but his wife wont let him
>>202590In all fairness I gave up on any Olympic aspirations long before meeting her.>Arrichion the pankratiast, having won two Olympic titles already, was competing for the crown in his third Olympiad, following these other two, and when he was just beginning to give up, his trainer Eryxias inspired him with a desire for death by shouting from the sidelines, “What a fine funeral shroud, not to give up at Olympia.”
>>202592And kind of refine the old timey way of speaking the account is recorded in, this match in question it seems to describe the guy is on his back with hooks in and a rear strangle, so he turned to free one of his hips and grabbed a toe hold which broke the guys ankle and caused him to submit. It may have even been the behind the leg version craig did to boogeymanIf he was a Brazilian though those faggots would've called it the arrichipata or some shit because those narcissists love to name things after themselves I refuse to use the common names of a move if it's named after a person, I will just describe what I am doing You don't get to put your name on something that people have been doing for all of recorded history
>>202599I really can't call it a kimura its a double wristlock thats just what it is
>>202600can call it an ude garami, arm entanglement if you want to use the literal english translationconsider leglocks for examplein japanese it's ashi garamiin english it's leg entanglementin portuguese its tap tap tap!
>>202527this guy looks badass!
Back to the plateau with me. Getting dominated in every roll again.
Just want to thank that asspained anon who followed me to /fit/ and gave me free bumps to keep the thread going Ended up with over 100 replies. Get rekt pahahaSit
>>202601kek I do like Japanese names but I am not good at speaking the Japanese names, so I stick with the English ones
>>202644I.d.k.I had a good talk with some anon about CACC,Should have told him about Victor Henry.He is a good fighter to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSwOi5bPMIcinteresting escape from body lock vid
>>202693gotta understand it all goes back to the gracie fraudulencethe entire basis of jiujitsu as we know it is from charlatans that had really basic incomplete skills, and that became the way professionals trainedand all these "rules" started to pop up about ways to do thingswhen you have 2 people who are really bad at jiujitsu going together it makes them seems like they might be really goodand now that we have people critically thinking about it the whole thing is being turned on its heada good example is you may have heard joe rogan just now when the cuck was on MVPs back trying to choke himTHIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS HIS ARM IN IS IN ITS OVER!!! and then MVP gets up like nothing happenthis is because joe rogan learned jiujitsu 25 years ago from retards and still thinks being on the back is some kind of death sentence, and having an arm wrapped around the neck means the fight is over even though it was obvious to me and anybody with a brain watching MVP was never in any danger because his arteries weren't being compressed and COULD NOT BE compressed from the position they were in
>>202697I am no fan of the Graciesbut stop complaining about rules this and that each group has different ones that it doesn't even matter>Joe rogan THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS HIS ARM IN IS IN ITS OVER!!!totally not the view from the side of the ring, instead of a over head shot
>>202702he has the ring side seat but also monitors showing the camera angles at the desk, with all that it should've been even more clear to him that choke was no danger at the moment he was flipping outand this isn't a one off, hes routinely going THATS ITS IT'S OVER! and the guy gets out 4 seconds laterhe's operating on jiujitsu knowledge decades out of date at this pointthe last time he probably learned anything hooks were considered good, crossing your feet was bad, and the back attacks were done from the underhook side and the overhook side was considered the "weak side" and half guard was "half passed"none of these things are true now, the game has changed and he has no idea about it, that much is clear
>>202692>I.d.k
>>202644>free bumpsI saged the thread with my one response. That others failed to do the same is not my problem
>local bjj club cross trains with our judo clubthanks for being my uchi mata dummy nerds. keep those arms stiff and posture bent.
>>202711You replied like 10 times lmao dude stop crying>I.d.k !!!!!!Seethe
>>202733>everyone replying to me is the same personRemoving the poster count was a mistake, not that it would've made much difference against retardation of this magnitude
>train bjj for 8 months>still getting tapped all the time during sparring with almost zero subs>everyone with less experience than me quits/trains infrequently while the higher belts/multiple stripe white belt trains consistently
>>202451>>202453>>202460>>202468thanks friends. i lost 6-0 (two guard passes) and for some reason i'm crying like a dummy about fuck knows what. i just want to become good at half guard and not lose like that again. this dumb sport is both so easy and so hard
>>202774all good man,your just letting out stress.It is a great thing you even did it in the first place, good work.
>>202774I've never lost a match, I have an undefeated record because any time it seems like I might not win I do something to get myself disqualifiedthis will end on my terms or nobodiestry it out
>>202736Cry
>>202774Is that you, Ronda Rousey?
>>202774How was the situation with the air conditioning?
>>202759Are you me?I really feel like I'm making zero progress at all because I consistently get absolutely shat on.Doesn't help that I'm the smallest guy there.
I got my one stripe after 10 months. Is that long? I feel like non competitors at my gym get promoted incredibly slowly
>>202798If you're there 4-5x a week and doing doubles, yes. If you're there 1 or 2 days a week and aren't actively asking questions, not particularly.
>>20279810 months there should be discussions about another belt coming soonfirst stripe is like you showed up for 4 weeks consistently, hey buddy good job trying something new
>>202774my professional bjj record is 1 win (on points) and 11 losses
>>202096wristlock is legal at blue belt in ibjjf
>>202861I've determined the moves ibjjf bans are solely the cheeky ones noobs can hit on blackbelts and they're salty about it
I had to take 4 months off because I sprained my knee doing yoga and had some huge bills to pay. I was going to a Gracie place 20 min away but theres a bjj place 5 min away it will be easier to go to. Also interested in wrestling for takedowns which is at the same place. I really enjoy the Gracie place but I could go to the bjj place more regularly and do private lessons at the Gracie place occasionally. What do
>>202863white belts be like>I CAN BE TRUSTED WITH LEG AND WRIST LOCKS
>>202251the longer I do this the more I realize there's some real fucking weirdos attracted to this stuff so yeah someone being so autistic or elitist that they don't talk to you is a real thingI dropped in at another local gym and the guy got really shitty once he realized I wasn't a potential new student to make money off of.
>>202451ha your instructor actually gave you expectations, mine just said don't get hurt
>>202774well at least you got the "i lost on points didn't get submitted" cope going for you
>>202892white belt can inside ashi and straight ankle m8
>>202451>>202774>all i feel comfortable with is trying sweeps from half guard and i have like 1/8 success with them>i'm really annoying when i get to half guard, people usually cannot get out. >i lost 6-0Your approach is common but very wrong. Being "annoying" via escapes is one thing, but being annoying via stalling/retention is another. Your focus should be to get on top and/or submit someone. Use this competition experience to grow and learn more effectively. I would highly recommend systematizing your half guard gameSomething like >my body should be positioned like this, with these specific frames>here are some ways I can off balance them>my best sweep is _____, and this is what I do to deal with the common counters>if I can't get to my favorite sweep, I will do this>if it seems impossible to get a half guard sweep, I can change positions by doing thisHalf guard is very important but don't get tunnel vision. Explore some other positions and make sure you spend some time playing top position. You might get good at half guard, but it won't matter if you're clueless once you get a successful sweep
>>202523pride did not have elbows at all u dumbass larper
>yeah belts don't mean much to me since I prefer no-gi anyways>omg my instructor gave me my 11th stripe on my white belt I finally made it broleswhy are bjjfags like this?
>>202958
Had a weird incident at the gym this week. So my gym runs regular class most evenings at 6pm followed by open mat, but since I work late sometimes I can only make it to open mat. Often nobody turns up to the open mats and many times I’ve turned up and have had to go home because there’s nobody to train with.Lately I started to bring my friend who is not a member and trains very casually. We just found a quiet space in the back to run through drills - typically stuff I’m interested in or holes I need to address. I find this really helps my BJJ a lot and I learn far better this way, especially considering my coach at the moment is doing a lackadaisical move of the week format for 30 mins + 30 mins sparring. I still turn up for class when I can but supplementing my training with drills makes a massive difference.I asked whenever we arrived at open mat and the coaches seemed ok with it at first. I would show appreciation by cleaning the mats and not getting in anyone’s way too so though it was a nice arrangement. However last time at the open mat the head coach approached me and told me it’s not appropriate, and that my friend must pay a membership (or an expensive drop in fee). The manner in which he spoke was a little bit on the firm side which caught me off guard and honestly I felt very embarrassed since there were other members there within earshot. I apologised and told them I would pay the drop in fee but now I feel like leaving the gym. I do not feel like going back since now the atmosphere feels too uncomfortable. Am I being a bit too rash? It is a very convenient gym to train at (the others are a minimum 30 minute drive) but the culture seems a bit uptight and this experience left a very sour taste. I would maybe expect to pay a small fee, but they are asking for the full class drop in fee which I find ridiculous. Also the way it was approached feels very wrong. They were very friendly up until now but now it feels very fake.
>>202983You took advantage of a courtesy The gym is a business, and it's normal to allow people to bring a guest and not charge anything because they're hoping to convert the guest into a paying memberOnce it becomes clear the guest has no intention of joining then they need to leave or pay a feeWhere it rubs owners the wrong way is the guest doesn't even approach them to offer some money and they can maybe work out a deal where there's a reduced fee for regular drop insThe gesture matters more than the money in these cases
>>202983My dude nothing is free and people dont do bjj lessons to be charitable. The niceness is fake. See what happens when you break your spine how much they care etc lmaoA gym i tried out even tried to scam me and pretended they dont do a free trial lesson until i argued it. They dont wash the mats either even though say they do
>>202983So you weren't able to train, found a way to train, and decided it helped you train? What a revelation. "The atmosphere". Hilarious phrasing to avoid accountability.
>>202983sounds like the economy is getting to your gym ownerso your buddy can join as a member and then he could still train with you and that would make your shekelberg instructor happyyou can change your schedule and go to the more populated classesyou can look for other gymsI don't think someone going to open mat should pay especially if the gym is having a hard time getting people to show up for it in the first place. I get that your instructor has bills to pay. Maybe if your friend joins then it is win win for everyone but if the gym sucks then switch gyms? Either way you should cross train a little bit and see if the other places are really worth the 30 minute drive, try to ask them ahead of time when you can drop in, I just showed up somewhere and the guy was a dick to me because I was someone else's student but that helped me decide not to pick his gym when I inevitably did decide to switch gyms.
>>203010really weird take that you think a private club should allow random people to use the facility for freewould you feel this way if it was a regular weight lifting gym?a skating rink?a car wash?let me use your shit for free
>>202987Yeah you’re right. I happily offered to clean after open mat whenever my friend came round but I guess I should’ve offered them some money or something. The coaches said it was fine, but I guess it wasn’t until it became apparent she wasn’t going to become a member. I was for sure in the wrong but it was very unclear what the rules about open mat were (it says on the site they’re open to everyone). Speaking of deals, my last gym owner actually approached us last time and let her train with me for free because they wanted more female members, but I think that ship has sailed here lmao. Thanks for your input man.>>203003I really don’t know what you’re trying to say dude. >>203010Yeah perhaps, but I’m thinking it’s just the culture. My last gym was pretty relaxed about this stuff and would host free open mats often - I made the wrong assumption ultimately. I think it’s silly they expect us to pay the full price of a drop in for an open mat (not even a class) where we just quietly do drills in an empty corner. I think I will take your advice and start shopping around. My old coach (an ecological method autist) started a small affiliate gym about 30 mins drive from here, so I’ll check it out. Thanks dude.
>>203017It’s not that cut and dry. Many BJJ clubs out there host free open mats where anyone can turn up and train
>>203017It's how you get people in the door, eventually you need to give them the sales pitch and convert them into a customer. If you're going to train there every week consistently for free then you should probably pay the guy but dropping in once in a while for an OPEN mat should be free.What service is he providing, he isn't teaching, you have to clean the mat, he isn't doing your laundry so yeah I get it he has rent so don't make it an all the time every day thing but one or two open mats a month shouldn't be an issue, it's good to bring in bodies for your guys to train with, you are getting something out of it as a gym owner, it isn't a one way street like this guy is eating my food for free dine and dash
>>203022>>203058People interpret open mat as anybody can show up, I interpret open mat as there's no class but the gym is open so do what you want, And I think that's how most businesses interpret those words. I'd say it's more likely the smaller gyms that are more desperate for students that have an open mat that the public can attend, the established ones don't need to do that My gym doesn't even allow drop ins, it's members only We don't need random idiots showing up and using our members as training dummies and injuring them then fucking off never to be heard from again and leaving our people to pick up the pieces But we aren't desperate for money, we can be particular about who we allow in
>>203061>I interpret open mat as there's no class but the gym is open so do what you want, And I think that's how most businesses interpret those words.chiming it to agree
>>203062>it*in
>>203062>>203061Yeah the only free "guests" at ours are associate gym members or training partners of our coaching staff. And both are usually for competitive prep, seeing semi unfamiliar reactions sort of thing.
>>203061It’s not even a particularly successful gym but yeah it can set a dangerous precedent for that which you’ve mentioned. Even if they aren’t particularly offended by it, it also opens the door to people taking liberties. We don’t even roll with anyone though, we just drill in the corner and I am just a shitty coloured belt who works long hours attempting to improve my jits. It would be nice if there was a gym where you could rock up at odd hours and pay a reduced rate for the month. I heard some guy on r/BJJ did this a few months ago - I wonder how that experiment went
What? I have been dropping in at my friends academy like every month for a year now at open mat without them giving a fuck about it
>>203153dropping in once a month is what the open matt is for - getting occasional cross training with other gyms for comp readiness and to keep things interesting.Bringing your friend to multiple a week is totally different.
Fucked up knee during last open mat. Doctor suspects a meniscus tear. How fucked am I bros? I'm thinking of giving up this sport. I'm near 30 and my back is killing me. I don't think I can fuck up another joint in my body afterwards. But unfortunately bjj the only community I have outside work.
>>203213 Depends on where the tear is Some of them can heal on its own as long as you don't mess with it and make it worse, some will require surgery because it's sufficiently gnarled or in a weird spotAnd surgery could be reattachment or more likely dissection where they just go in and remove the shitty part. But then it's gone forever, you just have less meniscus after that and are kicking the can down the road for future arthritis and may not even make your knee any better in the short term The medical industrial complex will probably try to push you towards unnecessary surgical procedures The going opinion right now on meniscus tears is if its not bothering you too much and impacting your quality of life then don't worry about it It's one thing if your knee is constantly getting stuck and causing you painIt's another thing where you're mostly fine except when you run 5 miles it starts to bother you
>>203214I live in a non mutt country so no one tried to push unecessary surgeries on me. It's just some people told me meniscus tears are pretty serious and can never truly heal and that by continuing this sport I'm setting myself up for further problems
>>203215>non mutt country so no one tried to push unecessary surgeries on meoh I see, so they'll offer to euthanize you like a lame farm animal because it's cheaper than fixing your kneedon't take that option either
I got a leglock from bottom Turtle todayI can now call myself a Catch wrestler
>>203219Yeah bro they definitely euthanize people here for meniscus tears.Dumbass faggot
>near 30>can't make his own decisions medically>can't handle bantz being returnedWho wants to bet someone tore his knee because they hate training with him
>>202822In my gym promotions are such a slog. You get a stripe every 6 months if you compete. If you don't it takes around 8 to 10 month. If you win medals that accelerates your promotion. Some chick got a blue belt in two years after winning gold but my coach is super strict about our reputation amongst other gyms in the city. Also he won't promote you if you do nogi
>>203409>my coach is super strict about our reputation amongst other gymsKinda sad he's letting random assholes live rent free like thatI'll give it to you straight, the gym that inherits the better athletes wins the tournament. Nothing you can do as a gym to change that, it's 100% luck if you get some chads living near by your location The top gyms in the world all being in the center of major metro areas is not a coincidence
>>202962see >>203393
>>203416The guy is a Gracie bb with lineage so his standards are different I guess. I actually don't give a shit being a single stripe white belt since whenever niggas from other gyms visit us they get destroyed and they wonder why we're sandbagged?
>coach has introduced conditioning into the competition class Ffs, I went to comp class because it had no drilling or """conditioning""" with Q&A and positional rolling instead. If I want to be physically fit (I do) I will train conditioning in my own time more and in a more efficient manner (I ALREADY DO!). I pay these exorbitant fees so you can teach me BJJ not so I get better at push ups and wall squats.If I roon 10km the night before, and I squat heavy in the morning, why the fuck do I need to wall squat before rolling AHHHHHH
>>203743Tell him this.
>>203745He won't take that well hahahah very old school Brazilian type. But you're right, I probably should. I need to get back in his good books first.
>>203743Yeah it's lame and gay these retards with no education in exercise modalities or designing training programs try to run conditioningIt's the Brazilian monkey brain porrada attitude, they think just because you're working hard you're improvingWe white men realize it's about efficiency not effort
>>203747>I need to get back in his good booksThe wall squats are punitive. What'd you do?
>>203409lol I train 3-4x a week and haven't got a stripe in 2+ years stop crying
>>204067Are you a white belt?
>>204215bleughgot the blue belt blues bro
does you're gym teach and drill ukemi?i think our coach shows basic ukemi once in our fundamentals classit makes me feel very uncertain about doing big throws on beginners
