The answer is IT DEPENDS whether the skill gap or the strength gap is bigger
>>203309Jon no question
Love how this board believes that fighting against a trained person or a bodybuilder it's something common to happen
>>203313It's about jon v thorAnd its jon 100%
>>203309The *real* answer is that it would be a banger of a fight and it's strange we haven't seen this sort of fight yet, as far as I know at leastMMA GOAT vs The Strongest Man in the World just markets itself ffs
Which one is gonna pop for more substances?
It's not really a great case because jon is huge too, he's just less huge
>>203309leg mogged to oblivion
>>203316>it's strange we haven't seen this sort of fight yethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDH-Q1MMebo
>>203316>it's strange we haven't seen this sort of fight yetIt would be a boring wet fart. You could sell this fight only once, maybe, to a crowd of know-nothing yokels. Jon would beat the breaks off Hafthor in any/every way that he wished, and Hafthor would do nothing.And for what it's worth, Hafthor can play with weights that would snap Jon in half. Jon wrecked himself and tore his pec moving weight that Hafthor would use for a mild warmup.Top tier athletes are specialists. The guy who's equally good at fight sports and strength sports is probably not very good at either.
>>203329>Hafthor would do nothingHe might SQUISH
>>203316Freakshow fights like that happened all the time back in Japan and it wasn't all that good.
Haffor mogs him in the street where he can't do fancy wrestling moves
>>203464you can't do wrestling moves in the street?
>>203465You can't realistically do the nimble knees scraping across the ground positional shit he would need to do to take down a guy that big. Whereas haffor would just have to lean on him and he'd be out-sumod
>>203471you can scrape knee you just have to be fully committed to the shoot, and I imagine if you're shooting on halfthor you're shooting with all you got
>>203565Good luck with that
>>203566I aint shooting on halfthor fuck outta here>good luck
>>203317Thor being forced off his tranny roids and deflating would be hilarious
>>203464There is tons of street fight footage that shows this is cope but go off. Jon could out strike him in his sleep either way.
>>203608Yet haffor crushes any bjj master purely through size and weight. I don't care if you're a black belt master, if you weigh as much as a small child, you aren't winning the grappling exchange
>>203471But you can do eyepokes
>>203611>Yet haffor crushes any bjj master purely through size and weightProofs? There is a 6'7 competition black belt at my gym that could probably rape him to death if he wanted. These strongmen are roidtranny carnies. Their actual athleticism blows chunks. You don't see them actually compete at high levels for this reason. They just do carnie money fights as actual athletes would starch them.
>>203625Google bryan Shaw and haffor try bjjThey just crush the guy
>>203611>>203664see >>203328
>>203685Big guy is playing nicely. He could just grab little twinkies arm and break it with no techniques. Hsffor is chilling and Ryan is trying his hardest to climb like a monkey around the big guy.If haffor wants to he just grabs him by the arm and smashes him into the floor like a gorilla. Game over.
>>203688Why doesn't he go smash ADCC for fun then?
>>203738Because he doesn't want to lie down on sweaty men?
>>203688You don't actually believe this, do you?
>>203802There is literally video of him doing just that posted in this thread kekHe could easily become the greatest combat sports athlete of all time but doesn't because.....he doesn't feel like it?
>>203840He doesn't want the injuries. He's busy lifting grizzly bear weightYou saw him rolling with kid gloves against the world's best grappler
>>203840If roiding up to 300+ lbs was a way to become world's greatest combat athlete, every heavyweight would do this (in ufc they would roid to 290 and cut to 265). Some, like Bob Sapp, tried this and failed.
It is a holisitic approach to martial prowess, but normies are too dumb to get it and. Experience, technical virtuosity, strength, speed, stamina, grit, etcetera, are all stats that determine how good you can fight. If anything, "one trick ponies" have it the hardest, not just in the technical aspect (pure strikers and pure grapplers), but also in these aspects. If you are super strong but clumsy, slow, and run out of juice easily you will only win if your opponent is daft and doesn't exploit your weakness, for example.
>>203685This is just because BJJ is a stupid system.
>>203309Every strongman vs fighter fight goes down the same way>strongman can't do shit>gasses out after a minute of ineffectual flailing>gets beaten up
>>203880One in russia went like so: Spinning head kick to the drunk powerlifter, ground and pound, dead in 4 hits.After drunk trash talk.
>>203882https://youtube.com/watch?v=VDyr6hsQEns
>>203870lesnar did this and did become the hw champ
>>203954Lesnar was a two time all American wrestling champ. He was always an athlete, not a powershitter. His MMA record was also pretty mediocre in retrospect but he was fun to watch and drew dimes.
>>203955yeah but he was extremely unrounded and still dropped heath herring and ko'd couture. im not sure what the premise of the argument is exactly but strength matters a lot in mma. now days everyone is well rounded enough that the sport is almost entirely about min maxing PED abuse and weight cutting
>>203957Obviously strength matters but strongmen aren't pro fighters for a reason. Lesnar was athletic as fuck and trained wrestling most of his life. He didn't just pick up heavy thing and put it down or squeeze apples. Halfthor etc are too old to ever bridge skill gaps and would have to drop a lot of bulk and the strength that makes them special.
>>203957Randy could make LHW and was 45 when he fought Brock.
>>203309Hafthor was never too fast. Big Z was much more explosive as a strongman, and could potentially do damage in fights.
>>203309Games of Tyrone is not the same as real life, autist. A good grappler (or striker) will fuck you up no matter your 2 decades of lifting heavy.If martial artists are midgets and you are super tall and huge, MAYBE you will have a chance if they are not too skilled.
>>203309Its about degreesPeople both forget that degrees dont mean absolutes, and also that one thing can proportionally out way the other.
>>203309Technique is the efficient use of strength.The better your technique, the less strength you need to apply your technique. So a weeker person can beat a stronger person with superior technique.But th equation work both sides.The stronger you are, the less technique you need to use your technique.So work on both, technique and strenght.
>>203309Anything could happen
