then look me in the eye and tell me Karate is not gayhttps://youtu.be/bxIlmbXMjYU
>>212057Nothing, I repeat, nothing, is gayer than Greek Wrestling
>>212099>greekit says turkish on the goddamn picture you posted
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Tbh, I don't need to see the video. I've already experienced some of this for myself. Gayness was not the problem, bullshit was.>been seeing people shit on karate for most of my life>decide one day i'm going to try it for myself>not just show up for a few lessons, but actually dedicate a bit of time to really experience it for myself>find the most traditional place i can>okinawan goju ryu>ended up spending six months there>really nice bunch of people, but lots of alarm bells ringing>nearly everyone there isn't actually that strong>most of the time when they appear strong, it's really only because they're using a lot of their strength against someone who is passively allowing them to demonstrate techniques on them>i'm fat, but somehow i have more aerobic capacity than most of the people in there>when we practice "self defence" drills, it's just choreographed sequences of moves against someone who is going along with whatever you do to them, or you're letting someone do the shit to you>a lot of it is complex motions and sequences that you'll more than likely forget when the pressure is really on you>additionally, we don't even get to practice the same drills and techniques frequently>you might do one set for a fraction of a lesson, then it could be months before you revisit them, if you ever do>the rest of the time is just spent doing kata>fucking kata>just practicing techniques against thin air>spend time practicing strikes into thin air>don't even get to practice against a stationary target like a bag or a dummy>no practice with pad and mit drills, either>subsequently no time really spent learning position, distance, or timing>no sparring>they say some of the high grades practice sparring occasionally, but i was there six months and never saw them do it even once>left there and i'm going back to my local boxing gymAnd that's just what I can fit here. There was more. Again, nice people, but the training was cultish bullshit.
>>217055I'm learning Uechi-Ryu and I cannot help but scoff thinking about their hand positions during striking. The one knuckle punch, the chop with your thumb knuckle, the tiger punch thing where you punch with your first set of joints. Fuck its so dumb Okinawa karate being mostly kung fu just makes it look bad
>>212057>not willing to twist dick to win a fightNGMI. Not even being sarcastic.
>>217055>find the most traditional place i canQuality is really hit or miss with traditional places. I've been to traditional places that were basically MMA in a gi, Goju-Ryu included. Been to 'MMA' gyms that were more TaeBo than anything else. I get what you're saying but...>1: Martial Arts is a spectrum of experiences and there is no 1 thing that makes the definition>2: Basing your opinion on a singular experience is retarded.It's especially retarded when you can hop online and easily find examples of trad dojos that work differently.
>>217055>i went to the most traditional gym and had the most traditional experience>why is karate a cultyou're retarded
>>217339Did they do that thing to you where they badly misrepresent other martial arts to make themselves look better? Because my guys did a little bit of that sometimes.>>217344I get your point, but it was one of the highest recommended dojos in my area. Supposedly the people were really good. I'm sure they know karate well, but I don't kid myself into thinking they were teaching me to practically defend myself in a reasonable timeframe.Also, that was my experience compared against many others I'd encountered. Not just me. I came, I saw, I decided I'd prefer something more serious. No need to get mad.>>217347>>why is karate a cultI never asked that. Also of course I'm going to go for the traditional one. If I wanted a more modern karate experience I'd be better off just finding a third-rate kickboxing gym.