>Dragon Ball - Sci-Fi influenced Journey To The West>Hokuto No Ken - Mad Max influenced post-apocalyptic east asia>One Piece - Fantasy golden age of piracy>Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - Worldwide urban fantasy with settings that range from the far west to Italy.>Naruto - Fantasy Ninja clans>Bleach - Different dimentions and specific cosmology>FullMetal Alchemist - Fantasy 1910s/20s Germany with magic>Soul Eater - Wacky and quirky Tim Burton-esque alternate reality set in Nevada>Trigun - Foreign influenced sci-fi space western>Rurouni Kenshin - Grounded Meiji Era Japan>Shaman King - Worldwide mythology and culture clash with specific focus on indigenous populations.>Yu-Gi-Oh! - D&D/Magic influenced traditional gaming and memories of ancient Egypt.>Rave Master - JRPG style Science Fantasy with strong influences from PSX era Squaresoft and various music genre.>Jujutsu Kaisen - Urban fantasy modern Japan>CSM - Urban Fantasy modern Japan>Dandadan - Urban Fantasy modern Japan (with Aliens!)>Bachi Kagura - Urban Fantasy modern japan>My Hero Academia - Capeshit themed urban fantasy modern Japan>Demon Slayer - Urban Fantasy Japan from 100 years ago>Black Clover - Bog standard generic medieval fantasy with Naruto elements>Frieren - Bog standard generic isekai settingWhat happened?
>my shonenshit is better than your shonenshit!>my fictional boyfriend can beat up your fictional boyfriendShonenshitters are hilarious
>>268146965>>Naruto - Fantasy Ninja clansi wish
>>268146965>Dragon Ball - Sci-Fi influenced Journey To The WestJourney To The West is like 5% of all DB why are people so obsessed with it? DB has so much more to it rather jttw
>>268147303Goku's Saiyan backstory (alien race of powerful creatures, child blasted off planet that is about to explode) is obviously inspired by Superman.
>>268147516>Goku's Saiyan backstory (alien race of powerful creatures, child blasted off planet that is about to explode)That's a shitty retcon, the saiyans were nothing like kriptonians.
>>268147552I don't care if Goku was a monkey in Dragon Ball. Z is what most people remember.
>Yu-Gi-Oh! - D&D/Magic influenced traditional gaming and memories of ancient Egypt.How does this even count as worldbuilding lmao
>>268147570I don't give a fuck about what most people remember or about you for that matter.
>>268147589This is why you don't have friends IRL
>>268147838I only have 1 friend irl and that's enough for me.
>daily old good new bad thread
>>268147864Name 3 modern shounen with an interesting setting, I'll wait
>>268147864Let him have it, the shonenshitter just admitted he has no friends apart from online ones.
>>268147906Dai Dark, Heart Gear, HitonerDone? Done.
>>268147852Your right hand doesn't count.
>>268147906Houseki no KuniRagna CrimsonVERSUSIf you don't want to count the HnK because it already ended, pick any one of the on-going official Touhou manga
>>268146965Why don't you do something about it then?
>>268147906Stop reading the mainstream normalfag slop
Ah yes, a deliberately cherrypicking examples that support your point and deliberately ignoring examples that do not thread. Love these. Half those examples are just worded to sound like they support your point, but in reality are no different from the ones you say are generic. What makes Rave Master acceptable than Frieren? Absolutely nothing, they're both bog standard fantasy. What makes Bleach or Yu-Gi-Oh! not just plain ol' urban fantasy? Absolutely nothing. What makes Rurouni Kenshin historical fiction while Demon Slayer apparently isn't? Absolutely nothing. There's an ocean of examples of generic urban and urban fantasy manga from before the year 2000, but you'd know nothing about that.
>>268147906Heart GearKaijun FugekiGachiakuta
>>268148828>What makes Bleach or Yu-Gi-Oh! not just plain ol' urban fantasy?The fact that Bleach has Soul Society, Hueco Mundo, Shadow Realm and the Royal Palace as settingsand both series have inner worldsYugioh is a magical tech setting. Kaiba in his attempt to up egyptian magic advanced civilization 100 years in a few months.japan became technocracy then fucking guy used magictech to go to the afterlife and duel the Pharaoh (don't get me started on Duel Links)so how the fuck does this sound as old urban fantasy to you?
>>268147906Ragna CrimsonRosen Garten SagaIruma kun
>>268146965>implying shounen has been interesting, ever
>>268147984>Heart GearJust ended :(
>>268147906Ninja SlayerTower DungeonSensou Kyoushitsu
>>268149112Tripfag retard.
>>268147584YeahShould have been>Multiverse summoning Demon by using card
>>268147984Dai Dark is just Dorohedoro in space, Dorohedoro started in early 2000 It's not exactly "modern"
>>268153241No true scotsman, eh?
>>268153241Kek, actually perfect for >>268153301. Might as well call every series mentioned in the OP just "dragonball with X". It's always funny.
Why is it always battle shit.
>>268148571>>268150501Both of you retards only mentioned one shonen series
>>268146965Gokubro btw
>>268156762Four out of five of the series those anons posted publish in shounen magazines. Three of them in magazines that straight up have "shounen" in the name. Not counting touhou because that's multiple different manga that release all over the place.Rosen Garten is the only non-shounen in those posts.
>>268146965Yeah I have no idea what's going on in Japan but I noticed that since ~2020, anime and manga are so underwhelming, so "emotionally sanitized".I watch older shows that I have never seen before and they're awesome. So I waste my time on this nu-stuff, realize, it's all extremely mid crap and get mad.Well I realized I should avoid new Japanese otaku media in general because there's nothing good and new being made and stick to the classic pre 2020 stuff so I don't come off as some whiny brat and not comment on nu-anime in the first place, not allow it to live rent free in my head so to say
>>268160385>Yeah I have no idea what's going on in Japan but I noticed that since ~2020, anime and manga are so underwhelming, so "emotionally sanitized".Same with all media desu
>>268146965>Taisho era is now urban fantasy>black clover is the same as Frieren>No mention of Fairy Tail Much cherry picking this one
>>268162507The responses OP got >>268147906 here destroyed him. You don't have to bump this thread, op already got anally raped.
>>268162552True, which is a shame, since I think he could have made argument work, but angled it instead as works from more experienced mangaka being more willing to be experimental and newer ones sometimes not because they have to make a name for themselves, so they sometimes stick to formulaic.Urban fantasy itself isn't bad, no setting inherently is, it's moreso whether the maker has the creative mojo to make it work. I.e. I really like BBB, just wish nightow would stop waiting title names for it. But it fits squarely as a "urban fantasy" just as JJk does. But Nighttow is much more experienced as a writer, so Hellsalem was instantly more interesting as a setting and still is imo to explore. I couldn't give a rats ass about JJk's world though because Gege basically didn't do anything interesting with it.It's also weird as fuck imo that he picked out rave master as not generic, when I'd say the least generic setting hiro made was the one shot that went no where centered on graffiti art. Of course that aesthetic is what makes gachiakuta stand out, Urana just had the chance and vision to flesh it out more & I really liked for e.g.the initial setting for promised Neverland, even if the series bombed because jump pushed too hard for the story to be longer then wjat the author pitched.Tldr: I think there's always interesting settings in stories of every era, but more experienced authors generally have a better idea what to do to make it interesting. Less experiences authors can still make use of good set pieces and settings, but it's experience that's a bigger determinate of story quality, not that younger authors are inherently uncreative. Not that experience itself is a garuntee, looking at you Samurai 8.
