Will Kurapika finish his nen classes next batch?
>>268257324By 410? No.
>>268257548I’m guessing the nen warfare phase is beginning soon, which is why Togashi is posting so much. He’s excited about the action.
Next prince to die?
Is there somewhere to read all the raw chapters?
>>268257324I want the main princes to kill some troupe members and Hisoka. It’s their arc afterall.
Kurapika and Machi chapter soon
>>268258546The princes are a key part of the conflict between the Troupe and Hisoka. There's no more powerful ally or useful tool on the boat than them, especially the ones with mafia connections. Whichever side turns the princes loose on the other one will have a major advantage.
>>268258383Tyson
>>268258383Luzurus, Halk or Tyson.
>>268259368The other way around. It's more like the mafia, and by extension the troupes and Hisoka, are a key part of the conflict between the princes. The princes and Hisoka have shared interests, since the PT's goal is still ultimately to plunder Kakin's coffers. Whatever prince manages to ally Hisoka will have a major advantage in the SW.
The “Gyro and the 5000 ants” arc would be a total mispurpose and makes no sense. It would just be a chimera ants rehash all over again.What new concept could they possibly bring up that wasn’t already brought up the chimera ants arc.
>>268261107Why is Togashi obsessed with gay pretty boys
>>268261594Because he is one
The 2nd strongest Spider versus the rest of the Troupe minus Chrollo. What happens?
>>268260220Nah you lack imagination.The possibilities are endless.
>>268260220>400 chapters of pure kino>still doubting godashiget the fuck out of this board
>>268264589Feitan wins
/thread
The Cute
>>268266303/dead
>>268266608>schizo is backRent schizo fat troll incel
>>268267522kek you're so mindbroken that you can't even form real sentences
>>268267826Cope harder, your cringe fanfic never happened, i will win
>>268268034You need correction
THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG
>>268266304AAAA HE'S SO FUCKING ADORABLE I MISS HIM
>>268268613>>268268998Kys femcel
>>268259368Shadow Beast vibes
the finale of the succession war will be woble vs halkenburg
>>268269489hydrogen bomb vs literal baby
>>268269610when all of the other princes are dead kurapika will have his whole squad (plus or minus a few)also halkenburgs ability uses up loyal men like ammunition
>>268269489Woble winning and Oito leading the country until she grows up would be the most boring outcome
>>268270675Except she will marry Kurapika and he will be intern King until Woble is president
Here's my problems with Nen.Anyone can gain lose or alter an ability mid combat. You can never guess how a fight will go because at any point anyone can do anythingBecause at any point, people can seemingly change their ability, gain new abilities, or alter it in a way to remove limitations. It makes all the fights tensionless when you can do almost anything battle wise and we don't know how they got the ability. If you are fighting a fire man, what's stopping you from saying"in exchange of taking 2x the amount of damage from lightning, I'll be immune to fire" and now you can't be hurt by fire anymore. Gon did it, he made a contract mid battle and got all the power he will ever have. It takes away the tension in battle.
Can you change or modify a contract, how do you do that, can you change or mod it when it is active (ex. My chain can insnare any phantom troupe member and when you have them can you go, if a phantom troupe member is antagonistic towards me, they will explode) what are the limitations on what you can have/what you give up (ex. I will die at age 35 but I will have all my nen until then) can you have multiples, if you can can one contradict the other (ex. I can make a portal to punch anyone that I see and then they make another contract that is I can see anyone that I pat on the shoulder no matter where they are), for a contract that effects a specific group what does it mean to be a part of the group (ex. If they are in the chain and then they say "I'm no longer a member of the phantom troupe" will it stop working. What if Kirapika thinks someone is a member, will it work or not) if Kirapika said "I want to be able to trap and kill any phantom troupe members with an unbreakable chain" and he doesn't give something big enough in return, what happens, does it just not work or is it just a pretty stong chain
Here's an example, if Kurapika traps someone in the chain and they say "I renounce my membership to the Phantom Troupe" then what happens? Does it still work? Is it just who Kurapika thinks is in the Troupe? What if he traps someone who he thinks is in the Troupe but they aren't, what happens? Is it the Tattoo? If they burn off the tattoo then will it still work? If they change the name of the Phantom Troupe, will the chain still work? The rule is "if he uses it on anyone that isn't part of the Phantom Troupe, he will die." So logically they should just change the name. If they change the name and the chain doesn't work anymore, can Kurapika alter his contract? If he has a phantom troupe members in his chains, can he alter the contract while they are trapped or does he have to wait until they are free? How would he go about changing the contract? Crollo changed his restrictions in the manga but he didn't say how, so how can you do that and under what circumstances? We have to accept that "it works on members of the Troupe" and move on. None of these answers are in the anime or the manga. Can Kurapika modify it? If he can, it takes away the limitations of his powers in an instant.
Gon said that he was going to get all the nen he would ever have to beat Pito. Is that all the nen he will every have if he keeps training or stops training? What if he is taken in by another nen Master and increases his nen, does the contract take into consideration future potential events or is it just everything that Gon has in that moment? What does it mean to use all the nen that you will ever have? Do you have a set amount of nen that you can use per day and the contract is just taking all the days that he would ever have and giving him that nen? Or is it taking a potential future Gon that is the strongest that he can become? You can't answer any of these with statements from the manga. All these questions are the different between life and death for a character and we just have to make assumptions.
Chat GPT vibes, I shan't refute that garbage.
All this text and all it takes is read the first sentence to see its bait, fucking kek2/10
>>268270230it doesn't. I seriously don't believe he would have killed the second of ben's guards immediately if it did sacrifice someone. woble still nodifs halk tho>>268270752mind broken by JJK. anyway you should reread the part where netero says prayer is an action of the heart.
>>268271087Then answer anything I posted. Everything I asked, you won't find answers for in the manga other than assumptions.
>name is brocco liIs togashi a hack?
>>268270879this post is proof of competency crisis, total lack of common sense
>>268270752>>268270825>>268270879>>268270917I'm not reading all that, you like One Piece. Be ashamed.
>Just change the name and Kurapika's chains won't work anymoreNobunaga's Nakamas
What’s stopping anyone from doing what Gon did against Pitou during life or death situations?
>>268272431Power of will
>>268272431gon was going to survivenen contracts are formed with the self, if you dont have things to risk, you get no rewards
>>268272923please stop posting that shitat the very least make your unintelligible shitposts by hand
>>268272431Most people aren't one in ten million prodigies, for one
>>268273787Nor Enhancers, for two.Gon enhanced his own growth, and that was an Ultimate-level Enhancement ability.
Leorio will kill Chrollo to earn Kurapika's love
leorio is shoot level
>all he needs is ONE ((1)) handshaketick tock Tserriedbitch
>>268274493Then it turns out to be an illusion and Tserriednich already saw him trying to put Judgement Chain on him.Ok, now what?
>>268274240Shoot is above CA Gon and Killua, so no.
>>268275468his abilitys are so good even ging has to try to imitate him, in what world is he comparable to gon?leorio >=ging >>gon
>>268275630>leorio >=ging >>gonGood argument. I concede.
what's gings nen ability?
Who do you want to win battle for the throne?
>>268276087he likely has multiple and at least one that is complicated>>268276179kaccho is dead, so zhang i guess(as the only one who wouldnt fuck the country over if he were in charge)also halkenburgs hair should be golden brown
>>268276179Halkenburg's hair makes him look like a penis hehe
The discourse around people not getting how Heaven's Arena exists while nen is secret is even funnier with UFC fighters openly admitting to nen use.
>>268276698>how Heaven's Arena exists while nen is secretExtremely powerful humans without Nen are somewhat common. Given that as a baseline, Heaven's Arena wouldn't be too different from regular people now watching the feats of skill and training performed at the olympics.
>>268275149The effects of whatever Kurapika is planning could happen after the window Tserriednich can look into.
time to reread hxh again
>>268276179Tserriendich easily provides the most interesting option. Trying to see Kurapika take down the official king of Kakin instead of just a Kakin prince would be interesting
Halkenburg is on the news for shooting a baby point blank with a revolver
>>268276698don't normalfags in the hunter universe just think that nen users are just people born with super human powers?
Kurapika's tongue is permanently stained with the taste of old man semen
I had a dream about the next chapter but I forgot it as soon as I woke up fucking HELL
I wish we saw more applications of Nen to the real world/everyday life/non extreme exploration combat etc.Like greed island, the counterfeit items from Yorknew, or even the Kakin ritual creation.
>>2682760877th nen trust the plan.
How easy would it be to ask Kurapika for a date?
>>268278283Very easy, literally just say the words "Please go on a date with me, Kurapika!". He will refuse though. Because he's taken by Leorio.
the ability to make contracts is a nen ability intrinsic to humans (the 0th calamity from dc)given this, can you make meta contracts?
What is it that makes Spider girls so erotic?
>>268269434Togashi does love a good jobber squad
>>268278958Hot... Machi too I guess
>>268272431Togashi's will.
>>268278958"hot" is pushing it for Machi
>>268260220Who said it was going to be an arc? Theres no indication that Gyro will be able to take over the Association’s ants. I think we might just start seeing dozens of Chimera Ant hunters pop up in the far future. Maybe in the background of an epilogue or something. Id like that, it would add some more weirdness to the series like during the first arc where we’re introduced to shapeshifters and later a gigantic battle wolf a la Toriko
>>268272431Gon is a nen prodigy, his ceiling is way higher
>>268279754anon he mean sacrificeing your future, not getting alot out of it
>>268260220>>268265703Tonpa during the 290th Hunter Exam.
>>268279999lmao
>>268279999keked and saved
>>268260220The ants integrate with humanity instead of trying to take it over.
>>268259368if the squad doesn't have atleast one conventionally attractive girl, that's togashi coded for they are all going to die. The more hot / andro people the squad has the likelier they are to survive.
>>268280165Benjaminbros..........
>>268280165Sun-bin and the tall guy will be Ken'i's Zakuro and Lynch. There isn't a cute girl because PT/Char are protagonistic while this trio will be antagonistic.
>>268280165.
>>268277216Doesn't fit the theme of the arc unfortunately, as the arc is all about the power of collective effort (steal chain, morena's power, Halkenberg). Tserri is the antithesis of this having lots of individual power but no connections so winner will either be Halkenberg the thesis or some mixture of both (which would be Zhang Lei or Benjamin)
>>268279999Fucking kek
What sort of punishment are we talking here? Mind control? It cant just be “death lol” right?
>>268279999Don't worry tonpa will unlock his nen SOON
>>268280226I am gay and I want him to live
>>268280476Morena's power foils most of them because it's about spreading individual powers instead of directly accumulating power for her own end. I wouldn't say Tse's power defies the royalty aspect, specifically his horse which either forces obedience or will make a pawn out of a defier.
isnt it weird that we havent seen any actual boat workers? no engineers or sailors or captain, no collosal engine pulling the whale forward, it just goes?based on this, i dont think the boat will crash, as we have not been foreshadowed to the preventative measures in place
>>268280745(i remember the one builder guy but that guy didnt even appear on screen)
>>268280745It doesn't exactly give the boat a narrative safety measure against crashing, it just means it's very unlikely that we have any particularly relevant members in that line of work.
…the Phantom Troupe have an in-universe wikipedia page?
>>268280939why wouldnt they
>>268280939Yes and after yorknew everyone knows their faces too. Machi has lots of young fanboys
>>268280939Imagine the page for Isaac NeteroPariston’s goons constantly adding disinformation including unfounded accusations of pedophilia and cannibalism
>>268280263this one was legit shocking
>>268280263Did the two jobbers on the left even know Nen
>>268281104Pokkle was possibly in the process of teaching them, but I wouldn't consider them awakened.
>>268279999fucking awesome
>>268278958Holy Machi!
>>268280850but if the boat were to crash would these personel not be shown? no, they would have to appear unexpectedly, and that would be even more charecter creep then we have nowalso once again on a ship this big there would be clearly and incredibly different circumstances to a normal boat that would require haxx to be made work
>>268281104I mean I don't think Ponzu knew either
>>268280165>andro, without the gynousThis
Ging is a gamer which means he is weak.
>>268282789That's not how characters have to work. You can just show generic personnel, or mention them offhand(ie the worker killed before boarding). The majority of BW characters are nameless, or are effectively nameless.
Ging is a enhancer and can enhance his brain to its peak which is how he is so smart and can instantly copy anything and was able to perfectly predict everything.
>>268283134it doesnt *have* to be that way but it *would*the rhythm of the story would be off it something as huge as the ship sinking was brushed off like that
>>268283400None of that requires in depth characters, especially on a broad level. The Spiders massacred the mafia and only Bean existed as a flat figurehead for all of the grunts. Generic men working against the technical issues is sufficient. If Togashi wants to be more technical he can attach names to non-characters so we know who's doing what. If he wants to go even further into it then we'll get arcs and more involvement out of them, but a lack of introduction up to this point suggests that this isn't the route he'll take.
If your favorite character is not ULTIMATE level they are a fraud.
>>268283029She did. She Manipulated her bees and instructed them to deliver a message for the person with the biggest aura around.That's how Kite knew their location.
>>268257324Hunter x hunter is over lol.
>>268284291I already knew that, I simply don't consider that feat conclusive enough to indicate that Nen is involved. She could already give simple commands to bees during the exam, carrying a message to whoever is not that big of a deal.
>>268280745We have not seen any ship workers… yet. I am 100% sure we will see the captain before this arc is over.Anyway, the Heil-Ly want to take control of the ship and sail back to the mainland, so when they try to enact that plan seems like prime time for various sailors to be introduced.
>>268284386The chart confirmed she used nen. There was plausible deniability before the chart was revealed, but she was displayed as a nen used by that point in-series. It's not just about telling the bee to find someone with aura, but the fact that she could issue mental commands to bees instead of relying on hand signals and pre-set territorial responses. The "intelligence boost" that would be required to fulfill the request is also similar to how Squala's dogs can perform higher intellect tasks via Manipulation.
>>268266303Machi will kill Hisoka/thread
>>268285477With her ass.
>>268270752>Anyone can gain lose or alter an ability mid combatIt has happened maybe twice and the only reason I say that is I can only remember one time. And it's framed as being something not only ill suited for an absolute brainlet like Cheetu, but also a bad idea to be panicked and trying to improvise on the fly. The best changes to a power are the result of careful self reflection and a solid foundation of training. >>268272431Having a couple months to stew on their rage against a single target. Having the potential and talent to burn. And having the proficiency in enhancement to forcefully age themselves to their prime, assuming they haven't already reached that or passed it.
>>268285609Right. For some odd reason people forget that Gon is an uber talented 12 year old. Gon giving up his potential will give you adult Gon. Fucking 48 year old Silva giving up his potential wil maybe make him equal to Maha, who is probably still weaker than adult Gon. And when you’re as strong as Silva and his age, what worth is sacrificing potential? A better example is that Zushi in the exact same scenario as Gon, aka turning into adult Zushi, is still getting decapitated by Pitou
>>268280717You have it backwards, both Kurapika and Halkenberg's power also spread power around to others. Halkenberg GSB gives aura to his subordinates. Kurapika literally uses his power to give powers to others and create nen users.The antithesis of this is Benjamin and Tserridnich, who take others powers for themselves (theoretically for Tserri)The middle ground would probably be like Tyson on Zhang Lei who have a give and take (book and coins)
>>268285609>It has happened maybe twice and the only reason I say that is I can only remember one timeZazan kinda.
>>268280152>"le we must tolerate this human-eating demonic alien species in our society because diversity is our strenght"Wokegashi at it again.
Uvogin should be gon san level how did he lose?
>>268286425enhancers always lose to the well prepared specialchads
So how is Bungee Gum special again?
>>268286558>the strongest specialist in the series is only strong because he can temporarily make himself into a enhancer CHADlmfao
>>268286578hisoka could use it to become spider man but chooses not to.
Enhancers are the best nen type when it comes to combat.
>>268278958Machi’s eyes alone cause women to seethe
>>268286578utility >>>> brute strengtheven in combat (brute strength can refer to alot of things here)
>>268286306You would say no to Bloyster if he asked for a smoke?
the dark and twisted mind of the pariston
>>268286762Bungee Gum is only as good as it is because of Hisoka's brute strength.
>transmuters are only strong because they can make themselves enhancer-litesAnother win for enhancer CHADS
Clown roulette, give me the anti-enhancer shurikens please
>>268286578I think the main reason is that it's effectively unblockable. Hisoka can attach it to someone regardless of their strength through contact, projecting it at them, or leaving it on the ground for them to trample. Beyond that it's just an incredibly versatile combat ability. It lets him zip around, pull things towards him, and improvise a fair amount. An overall well thought out ability as Nobunaga mused.
>>268287394>I think the main reason is that it's effectively unblockable.poor man's scream
>>268287299>BLITZES you before it even finishes rollingAnother win for enhancer CHADS
>>268286578It basically makes Hisoka Spider-Man. Bungee gum can be used as offense >wrapping people, sticking to them to put them in a blender, or secretly attach to them for opportunity hitsAs defense/dodging>can block, send back, or wrap abilities . Also can be used for evasion like in the Chrollo fight.And more.Add into the fact that not only is Hisoka super strong/physically advanced, but also very intelligent, along with being skilled at hand to hand combat, it makes sense why Hisoka is a contender for strongest current living humans (ignoring Don).If amongst living characters knov’s ability is the series goat of utility or whatever, Hisoka’s bungee gum surely is for combat
>>268287471Scream is incredibly good as a melee range warping/potential insta-kill ability. Bungee Bum however fills a different role and I think both can stand on their own. The fact that nobody can stop themselves from having the gum stuck to them is a huge plus for the ability overall. If it could be blocked or mitigated the same way Genthru's transmutive explosions can, Bungee Gum would be somewhat less useful.
>>268287533Hisoka is like the only character other than Netero who’s a true fightfag. He better be a contender for the strongest. Like yea Gon loves to fight but to him fight is part of the adventure, so he’s more of an adventurefag. Same for Ging with being an explorationfag.Even>zodlcyks prefer to avoid conflict and get quick kills, not fight>troupe spends more time theiving. The closest to a fightfag they have is Uvogins and again fighting wasn’t even his main goal.Hisoka and netero are the only true fightfags in the series. If Hisoka wasn’t the strongest it’d be retarded
>>268287533GOATed ability for combat is canonically Halkenburg's Arrow, but we can treat it as an exception.
>>268286201I definitely don't. Kurapika does break the mold, but not on the same axis, and we're talking about the philosophy of the princes. Halkenburg on the other hand is in line with the others. If you aren't loyal to him you lose the feather. If you aren't on the same page as another marked person you have no boost. And most telling of all, his men are ultimately living ammunition for his arrow. Ben's resolve (live on through me) is immensely similar to Halkenburg believing him and his men to be united, if not the same exact thing. With Zhang and Tyson there is another allowance of power(we are of course headcanoning that Tyson will give abilities to people based on their roles), but it's all tied to working through their parameters.Morena's power, new information notwithstanding, has no strings attached. You are playing into her goal of chaos by leveling up, but your power and who you spread Contagion to is all up to you. The power is left with the individual, and Morena herself is no more important than someone who reaches 100. It's in strict opposition to the beliefs of the royalty. Since a lot of this can be linked to the founder's personality influencing the GSB, I'd be very interested to see what a hypothetical GSB Morena makes through the urn would manifest as.
>>268287898>Morena's power, new information notwithstanding, has no strings attached. You are playing into her goal of chaos by leveling up, but your power and who you spread Contagion to is all up to you. The power is left with the individual, and Morena herself is no more important than someone who reaches 100. And this is what is scary about her power. Given it's easy to assume that even if you kill her Contagion will still remain active in any already infected host thanks to Kakin's strong cultural presence of post-mortem nen. All it takes is one of these people making it to a new populated area and they can start a whole new pandemic of murderers and chaos. It's a miracle that she waited until she got on the boat to unleash this contagion because otherwise nobody could have stopped multiple of her people from reaching level 100 within a week under more normal circumstances.
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>>268287898This analysis is right about the philosophies of unified action of the princes, and in that regard Morena's power doesn't follow the trend. My point was more about the power of collective action being able to overpower individual strength. There is clearly a difference between Halkenberg's "hey everyone who agrees with me, come together and we can create something more powerful together" and Tserri's "if you lie to me then I will fuck you up and make you less than human, so you better listen to me". Morena's ability definitely fits in this former camp as she chooses to give the power to others who agree with her goal to accomplish the power even if the power itself doesn't force this (which does have narrative consequence, what if someone tricks Morena's goons to take advantage of Contagion to increase their organizations power instead of follow her philosophy). In this framing Benjamin's ability fits in the former as well though, so I had him misclassified. Camilla's ability actually fits on Tserri's side (if you kill me I kill you instead) and look how Camilla vs Ben went. I think Zhang Lei will still fir in the middle of this, especially with his "we must integrate light and dark of society" which would imply use of both types of strategies. Especially since he gives coins to those not on his side necessarily like Melody
>>268286425He got his nen cutoff by Kurapika before he could do the thing
>>268286425>should be gon san levelhe was a orphan bum, gon is from one of the most special bloodlines in history
>>268281801
Is there anything from the Succession War arc that you would consider a 'defining scene' for the manga as a whole (or at least for the arc)? I feel like a lot of people were strongly affected by Kacho's death scene, for instance.
>>268288450I wouldn't say any of the major players really diverge from that, though yeah Tseri's is tinged as vicious. FWIW Camilla's is her own power, which is not as founder-influenced. Camilla's GSB uses coercive Manipulation and was likely the source of the jellyfish school, so I'd say she fits the bill there.But of course through this lens Ben sticks out, since his GSB's power isn't known but it's his own innate ability that matches the trend. Halk's arrow is also technically his own power, but it's made possible on account of and granted to him via his GSB.
>>268289510Probably Tserriendich surviving and discovering his fine ability. It’s the culmination of a villains own personal trianing arc, and the euphoria he feels with discovering Nen makes you forget that this guy should be killed . Also, the way the whole scene plays out is so perfectly crafted. Kacho Fugetsu escape is the other.I’d say maybe Halkenburg and Nasubi meeting where Halk tries to kill Nasubi but not sure yet
>>268289510
More than the death itself, the escape in general and specifically Senritsu's performance is what I would consider a defining moment
>>268289708There's a scene in Sailor Moon where a magician monster turns an inanimate object into a snake and the Hisoka looking guy jobs/dies during those scenesepisode 149
>>268289510>>268289748Honorable mention: Halkenburg's Arrow
>>268289805They have an o my rubber nen moment thoughever
>>268289423
>>268289510Beyond's intro/speech, Tse's intro, Prince/GSB reveal, Kurapika holding Woble, Chrollo vs Hisoka reveal, Hisoka revival, GSB's walking through the room, Momoze's murder/Oito reaction, Morena's intro, Halkenburg's awakening, banquet escape, Theta's assassination attempt, Rihan thinking in Tubeppa's room, Hisoka's return, PT flashback reveal, Sarasa's corpse/Chrollo's election
>>268289510HISOKA MACHI SEX SCENE IN CHAPTER 435
>>268289510Hisoka's return
>>268290006Ravu the Komacine
https://x.com/Un4v5s8bgsVk9Xp/status/1807324203546444177HERE WE GO HUNTERCHADS!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUDUK-yvwQs
>>268291213Naisu
>>268291213Page 2 is someone’s shoe?
>>2682895101. Nasubi and Halkenburg's conversation2. Melody flute playing during Tserriednich's training.3. Uvogin nominating young Chrollo to be leader.4. Ging elected as Beyond's No 2.5. Chrollo's refusing to reveal the letter's content to Uvogin.
>>268280524I think it's gradual in how much of the book you've read, too.>don't read it>don't pay any aura for happiness>don't get punished for killing>read it all>super duper euphoric, but pay lots of aura>get punished super hard (going from complete mind control to severe unhappiness and suicidal thoughts and shit depending on how much you've read)
>>268289934Crossdressing Gon mogs Machi
>>268291213this is an imageboard retard
>>268292285Don't care
>>268290944>ends in 44Illumi is disguised Hisoka, after all
>>268287601>>268287471Scream can be blocked by higher nen concentration
>>268287601The only way I can see Scream being useful for combat is through an ambush which is how Knov used it. This could be said of many other abilities which require less nen mastery for a one-hit KO.
>>268292744>thinking warping powers can be blocked just by being stronger
Could Meruem and his Royal Guard have successfully invaded the Kakin Empire or would Benjamin stop them in their tracks?
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>>268293745Damn that's good, really been loving these old color things he's been posting.
>>268293409This is different. Razor is like mid-troupe level, not comparable. This proves nothing. Besides, Goreinu also had to add conditions on using this ability (being fugly, never getting pussy) and still got assreamed. Doesn't matter.
>>268293409NTA, but Goreinu can only teleport Razor's body without disrupting his aura. It doesn't automatically mean he instead could've created a Black Goreinu: Torso and Black Goreinu: Legs that warp the top and bottom half of any opponent in their place regardless of durability, that'd be retarded. The reason why Black Goreinu works is because it doesn't directly harm the target. It's also exactly why Knuckle's hatsu was impervious to physical force, and why Shoot could've effectively blinded Youpi if he weren't a body morphing freakshow. You can't say the same about Knov using his portal offensively to sever a peon ant's head from its body.
>>268294527>NTA, but Goreinu can only teleport Razor's body without disrupting his aura.This doesn't matter. If someone is going to claim that powerlevels matter when dealing with emissions-based teleportation they can't ignore that we have seen it work. And then start making up new "rules" about how this doesn't break their headcanon. Togashi never lays out any stipulations on warping. If an ability lands, the target will be moved. This is why even the Royal guard were worried that Meruem could be relocated by a teleportation ability. And before you claim that they lack experience so it was just their speculation, the story has never refuted this point about warping working regardless of power disparity. The rest of your post is just cope like the retard above you. I see a lot of this nonsense stemming from the idea that Nen is fair and balanced. It is not. Halkenburg has one of the single strongest abilities in the series but if some rookie manipulator with 500 aura was already controlling themselves than Halk's power would fail. First come, first served is absolute. And if someone triggers a teleportation trap or gets caught in the area of effect, they get warped whether it is in whole or in part. It doesn't matter how conjurers make things impervious to damage or how kind Shoot is with his warping ability compared to Knov. The former is a different category with its own caveats and rules, and the latter is down to the individual's temperament. Knov wanted a kill move and that's why his power warps maliciously. Shoot could be a sadist that carves people up like a thanksgiving turkey if he were psycho. Even Phinks was wary about walking into Vicante's teleportation door because he feared they would just be dropped into the ocean. The only reason that isn't the case is because Vicante's power is being used for Morena's base and they specifically want to kill their victims with their own hands. Even then the troupe were still cautious.
>>268293409Not the same thing. A portal being opened, exerting force on a persons arm for example, can be blocked by exerting the same force in an opposite direction. Hence equal nen that "doesn't want to teleport" will block Scream attempting to teleport your arm. Goreinu, as many have said, is a different thing because it is just moving things around "as they are". Two objects swap places in space, but nothing is displaced, no energy is required to move beyond the teleport itself. Goreinu can't teleport someone into solid bedrock. It hinges on being fair.
>>268294875> First come, first served is absoluteProves you don't understand how nen works. A mega strong manipulator will for sure control a weak manipulator that has put some trace amounts of nen inside himself. Because manipulator nen, of the total coercive sort, hinges on a very large amount of nen controlling the target. AllThe conditions, the special implements they use, all serve to increase the amount of nen they can infuse in the target. We know that superior nen will beat out weaker nen in combat, we just haven't seen this before. You are making the argument that these character discussing the mechanics of nen *as they understand it* are correct 100% of the time, and have some sort of foolproof, objective mechanical knowledge, when nothing in the manga supports this view. Zushi, doing a small, halfassed ad hoc self manipulation and then getting stabbed repeatedly with extremely potent illumi needles might be able to ward off manipulation for a short while, but eventually illumi's extremely potent and evil nen will win over his feeble defense, and he will be helpless. Same goes for Halkenburg.The only reason why character's believe in "first come- first served" is that in normal cases, the nen differential required to win through brute force is simply too large. But we've already seen that sheer force in nen terms can do "impossible" things that are inconceivable. See: nanika. Knov's Scream would have to need more nen in one spot than Meruem could muster to defend, in order to forcefully teleport a limb.
All nen abilities have a bunch of limits. Misconceptions persist on some level because Togashi is the GM who decides which conditions and restrictions translate to what degree of increase in effectiveness and can't possibly spell every single thing out. Even if he was more meticulous and autistic about it than he already is there's going to be someone who will question whether Scream or some other ability is the hidden exception because infinite this or that. Pouf said it best, if I may paraphrase: If you're up against post-Rose Meruem you'll job. You can assume that he's invulnerable to being damaged by human level nen abilities unless someone can synthesize the exact poison that eventually killed him or uses an alternative method of achieving aura output within that realm. Invariably that would come at a ridiculous cost. A couple of abilities used together in a clever way wouldn't be enough.
>>268257324>Woman voice>Woman clothes>Woman look>Woman hair>Woman sense of rationalism>Woman self preservation instincts>ManThanks HxH your psyop/fetish is SO stunning and brave
>>268295331Kurapika is very much a Guy's guy in many ways. You're suffering from delusions and wishful thinking, and not seeing reality for what it is. Its called "mental illness". See here, an alternative view on Kurapika: overly serious, strong sense of pride. Belligerent, easy to rouse into anger. Doesn't shy away from violence as an option. Casts away those things not useful to him. Has no use for sentimentality. Object focused. Strategical. Logic-driven. Obsessed. Obsessed with past grievances. Obsessed with revenge. Obsessed with violent revenge specifically and punishment. All these things, I've written above, are MALE CODED. The idea of killing your tribe's killers with your own bare hands in a self destructive quest that will cost you everything is so extremely male-centric as an idea of something to do, it honestly boggles the mind one can view it as integral to a part of a female character. You are genuinely mentally deficient if you believe Kurapika "leans" female in any shape or form. Even his autistic obsessions and rigidity point to a well-functioning male mind. He is prone to black and white thinking and knows he is right. He is assertive and dominant in his sphere of expertise. All these things are typically male interests and ways of doing things. It would be notable and strange if a woman possessed these qualities in large capacities. A female Kurapika would use institutional powers or proxies to do the same thing. She would lobby to destroy Meteor city through indirect means (social, cultural, demographic, economic etc). A female Kurapika wouldn't feel the need to restore honor to the extent that a male one would, either. Women aren't designed to suicide themselves in quests, and they aren't designed to go fight their enemies straight up in that sense either. A loss of honor would result in a regular suicide at the most. Either that, or Kurapika giving up the Kurta culture and becoming part of a different culture.
Also lol "a woman's sense of rationalism". Women are animals. They operate on entirely different parameters than men.
>>268295594You do sound like a woman expert
>>268295623How about you renounce your garbage "analysis" of how the character kurapika is built instead of posting your cope here. He is designed to be androgynous, but his views, ideals and actions are 100% male coded. That is a fact. Either accept it or fuck off
>>268293745Ging next batch! Lets goooooo
>>268294094lolRazor beats everyone in the troupe except maybe Chrollo
>>268295190>We know that superior nen will beat out weaker nen in combat, we just haven't seen this before.So you're proving that anon's point by admitting this is just your headcanon?>You are making the argument that these character discussing the mechanics of nen *as they understand it* are correct 100% of the time, and have some sort of foolproof, objective mechanical knowledge, when nothing in the manga supports this view.Characters' words are more reliable than your headcanon.
>>268296085Characters aren't infallible. Just because Balsamilco believes it to be true (which in normal cases, absolutely is) doesn't make it true when faced with abnormal conditions. The manga itself makes it clear that weird shit can happen if the conditions are met. What are "conditions" really? They are just a way to get a lot of nen into one spot, for one purpose. That's the only thing a condition does.
>>268293745>>268295795We already had Yusuke show up and got Chrollo's recognition
>>268292285Halkenburg in rage
>>268286636pitou could make himself into an enhancer?
>>268293745GingCHADS we are back!
Thoughts?
>>268297414Please Kalluto or Biscuit, please not Machi
>>268297447Lucky bastard
>>268297447I have been blessed
Shit chart, there's 4 corpses, 3 males and 2 hags and 1 nigger in there. I will not comply with your malicious nen roll.
>>268297414but what if i get trips?
>>268297414roll
>>268297414>no PiyonFagot
Why do people want her to be a male so bad?
>>268297414rolling for kalluto unprotected sex
>>268297414>no AstaDespair.
>>268297560ask togashi
>>268297485>2 hagsbisky and?
>>268297560Three possible reasons>1. English localizer admitted they made a mistake and referred to Pitou as a male. Even though Togashi generally referred to her as female. >2. Smoothbrains misunderstood Colt's comments about the squadron leaders leaving and breeding with animals / people. This made it seem like all ants are male, even though we know that Reina / exorcist ant are female.>3. Togashi had a laff making another androgynous villain. This appealed to certain mentally ill people who discovered the series during Covid
>>268297676>Even though Togashi generally referred to her as female???
>>268296141>Characters aren't infallible.As far as works of fiction go, characters don't have to be infallible for consistent statements along with practical examples to be treated as true. We have seen First come first served in action and everyone since has reinforced that this principle is true. You are the one that needs evidence that it doesn't work based on power disparity to have a valid point, not the other way around. >That's the only thing a condition does.Not true. Some conditions are mandatory regardless of who is making the ability. Planting something in/on the target requires some combination of the following: direct contact through touch, getting the target to inhale/injest something, or at its loosest having them hear and acknowledge a statement. Think Potclean, Countdown, Missile-man, Momoze's GSB and Sale-Sale's GSB. Warping requires that a location be marked either by physical proximity/contact from the warper or their agent, or putting a marker in that spot. Knov either needs to touch the ground or etch a nen script into a surface for his portals. Luini made a whole production of entering the Cha-R hideout to gain access to that room. Etcetera. This is also true for non-warping powers like Accompany from GI. Gon couldn't have used that card on anyone who was not a registered player in his book. The user can and must still layer additional conditions on top of these but there do exist some core and unavoidable conditions to nen abilities.
>>268297560She's a woman in the DUB and has female outfits in the HxH gacha, Pitou is a woman. This post? Irrefutable.
>>268297687>mother protecting her child>taking the place of the Virgin Mary on Volume 28's cover>drawn with breasts when in her midair naked closeup>Had sex with Goreinu during a bonus chapterYup yup yup. Confirmed female. Trannoids lost.
>>268297762Togashi made a mother breastfeeding her child analogy when Meruem ate Pouf and Youpi. Pouf and Youpi confirmed as female!
>>268297829Meruem and Pouf don't have breasts
>>268297762Goreinu is me btw
>>268297829Pitou used a Japanese pronoun used by young boys and girls... MUST HAVE A COCK! ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT IS COCK!
>>268297856Pitou isn't a mother.>>268297909Okay? Good for you then.
She's a woman, I checked.
>>268297981...dont look up this guys other artwork
Pitou is MTF
>>268298045Made to Fuck
>>268298156I concede
>>268297414Give me Paku.
>>268298045Pitou is NB
>>268291596>3. Uvogin nominating young Chrollo to be leader.>5. Chrollo's refusing to reveal the letter's content to Uvogin.>those being a more "defining scene" than chapter 357 (O MY RUBBER NEN)Spiderfaggotry is a mental illness.
>>268289423>>2682899342011 niggers don't get that reference.
>>268292744While I agree, their posts wasn't wrong when considering human benchmarks. Like we can say Black Voice and Ripper Cyclotron are insta-kill abilities, but that doesn't mean they would insta-kill Meruem.Scream wouldn't decapitate Meruem, but since he and the RG's are already dead, we can say Scream is a "potential insta-kill ability".It only becomes a problem when they say it could beat Meruem (or a theoretical being with infinite aura).
>>268276087Since it's Togashi it could be literally anything, but here are some options:>A conjured bow/gun since Ging is THE hunter, but probably not since Halkenburg can do that now.>Some form of manipulation ability since we've seen him riding on a giant dragon, also it would fit with his goal to go to the DC. But I don't think that this one is it either since just straight up mind control abilities are more for sidecharacters and are too boring in nature anyway.>An ability to create abilities on the fly, Ging taught Kite nen and Kite's nen ability is random in nature, this might also be true for Ging. Togashi probably wouldn't give him an ability that lets him straight up make whatever he wants and another steal ability won't be it either since we now have Kurapika and Chrollo, but it might be something like Crazy Slots, just with a wider range.>A spirit gun ability, since he looks like Yusuke.>Ging said while he was showing off with manipulating the aura on his hand/fingers that that trick would only be useful if it relates to your ability, so there might be a tie in to his real hatsu.But again, Togashi is unpredictable, it could also be something completely random/useless like Biskies ability.
>>268293409Retarded example, but >>268294527 already refuted you perfectly.
Your Hatsu usually reflects something of personal importance, or an obsession right? Hence why the KKK guy who used tops was just really into topsWhy is Goreinu a huge fan of gorillas
>>268298875>he's not a huge fan of 'rillas
>>268298875>dicks out for harambe>return to monkeSome people just like animals.
>>268297702>Warping requires that a location be marked either by physical proximity/contact from the warper or their agent, or putting a marker in that spot. Knov either needs to touch the ground or etch a nen script into a surface for his portals. Luini made a whole production of entering the Cha-R hideout to gain access to that room. Etcetera. This is also true for non-warping powers like Accompany from GI. Gon couldn't have used that card on anyone who was not a registered player in his book.that's exactly what i mean. through normal means and in normal conditions (as far as the characters know) this is what is *required* for warping, teleporting etc. and yet, Nanika can just "poof" illumi away. What does it mean? It means the rules aren't as strict as the characters themselves believe them to be. They can be circumvented or broken. Spider's are not necessarily correct. Things can happen that are beyond their comprehension.
>>268294875>This is why even the Royal guard were worried that Meruem could be relocated by a teleportation ability.And have you noticed how they were only worried about him being relocated by a teleportation ability, and not being sliced by one?The thought of Meruem being sliced apart doesn't even cross the RG's minds. It'd be way too absurd when Zero Hand, which the strongest human spent weeks concentrating aura for, only gave him surface level scratches.Zero Hand was the climax of Netero and Meruem's fight, and after that visually and narratively climatic moment, Meruem called Netero (and his Zero Hand) "truly, the best of man".Narratively, Meruem wasn't speaking from a point of ignorance. It's not that "erm, actually, Meruem was wrong. The 'best of man' would've been a simple teleportation ability from any jobber. That could've spliced him in half."Meruem said "that was brilliant". If any teleportation ability would've done the job - using Emission just like Zero Hand - he should've said "that was retarded."As far as offense goes, Zero Hand was the best a human could've done to him.> Halkenburg has one of the single strongest abilities in the series but if some rookie manipulator with 500 aura was already controlling themselves than Halk's power would failRetarded headcanon refuted by the narrator. The narrator says the arrow WILL guarantee victory in individual combat. It doesn't matter if it hits Shalnark during Auto-Pilot, he will succumb nonetheless.>Shoot could be a sadist that carves people up like a thanksgiving turkey if he were psychoWhy do you make your life mission to live in denial about "you can't make a sword that will cut through anything"?That's not how Nen works.>Phinks was wary about walking into Vicante's teleportation door because he feared they would just be dropped into the oceanAnd have you noticed how he was wary of being teleported whole into the ocean, and not wary of being split in half?
>>268296085>We know that superior nen will beat out weaker nen in combat, we just haven't seen this before.>So you're proving that anon's point by admitting this is just your headcanon?It's not headcanon of him. We literally saw it happening.
>>268295226>Pouf said it best, if I may paraphrase: If you're up against post-Rose Meruem you'll jobIt wasn't even Pouf who said it.The narrator did. Pouf only understood that fact.See the pic in >>268298629Regardless, very based post.
>>268297560>>268297981>it's another "Pitou is a male" episodeThe ride never ends...
>>268298875He was harassed from a young age for looking like a gorilla. Eventually he owned it, changed his name, and sculpted himself after the nature of a gorilla.
>>268297414Machi or Menchi please
>>268297479is this gif the only good thing to come from that game?>>268297485>he wouldnt dark cunny Fag
>>268297414my nen is strong
>>268300752>cunnyBruv she was like 10-12 during the Killua flashback, where he was like 8 or so, Killua was 12 during the first hunter exam. In the Killua rescue arc, she was between 14-16. In the Gon rescue arc (canonically almost time for the next Hunter Exam the year after Killua first passed) she was 15-17.That's no cunny, fucker. That's not even hebe... You're just a lowly ephebophile! You're almost a hag fucker!
>>268299224>What does it mean?That nanika isn't using Nen even if Alluka is a specialist. That's much simpler than assuming that Nanika can warp a whole blimp to the mansion on a whim and mindfuck the entire crew at the same time. And also how Nanika was able to expel Gon's damages when it's reasonable that no human exorcist could have taken on that burden. >Things can happen that are beyond their comprehension.Even if we take this as true. How is someone like Luini beyond their comprehension? >>268299271>The thought of Meruem being sliced apart doesn't even cross the RG's minds.Probably because there are only 2 powers in the entire series that use teleportation to remove part of someone. This idea simply isn't as common as warping the whole body from A to B. And even then you still have no answer for how teleporting a whole body doesn't encounter problems when used on a stronger opponent relative to the user. Like if someone punched another person with less aura, they would deal no damage. How come warping isn't like that in whole or in part? >"you can't make a sword that will cut through anything"?This isn't something dictated by conjuration. And Halkenburg's power circumventing defenses has nothing to do with being blocked by FCFS.
>>2682983862011chads*
>>268300493kek
>>268301220>That nanika isn't using Nen even if Alluka is a specialist.Confirmed speedwatcher (not even reader). The aura Nanika used could be felt from across the city
>>268304123How do you know that isn't Gon's aura? No aura is felt when Nanika does anything else so it's kind of just blind faith that this is the one time it confirms that Nanika, and by extension the Ai use nen.
>>268292744This point is retarded as always but it would be funnier if everyone just agreed and applied it to everything instead. Bungee Gum CANNOT stick to anything it's attached to, Meruem's aura would shield itself against his gum. Neon CANNOT write a fortune for Meruem, it's too much aura for her to track over a one month period.
Part of Nen combat is willpower, not just total aura amount.Knov was shitting himself just by being in the same building as Pitou. If he had to clutch a 1v1 against Meruem, he would choke up. In his mind's eye Knov would see Scream failing and shattering against Meruem's neck. And Meruem, unless caught in Zetsu somehow, would passively block it.
>>268304397Let's apply Scream's logic to everything else:It one-shot a Peon Ant, so it would one-shot Meruem.Killua's yo-yo's would destroy Meruem's head.Ripper Cyclotron would explode Meruem's body.Battle Cantabile would crush it to death.Rising Sun would cook him alive.Kalluto would rip his limbs apart with his paper dragon.If Gon got a hold of Meruem he would crush him with his grip.Kite's sniper gun would shoot through his head.Kite's scythe would slice him in half.
>>268304740Inability to distinguish between types of attacks? Check.
>>268304740Those two ants? Stronger than Adult Gon.
>>268304397Yes, with a good enough nen defense you can stop bungee gum from reaching your body. What exactly is the problem?
>>268304740It's disingenous to not admit that the main argument behind Scream is that it's not an attack based on blunt force or physical strength but rather displacing matterI don't necessarily agree that it would one-shot Meruem but your attempt at refutal is worthless
>>268304876Defense? No, he cannot attach it to Meruem period because of his aura, stop pretending this is Jojo. Meruem would also smash Hakoware to pieces if he really tried and could see through Perfect Plan. Hakoware also wouldn't appear on him even if he was punched, he would not allow Knuckle's aura to enter his body.
>>268304899What does a "sword" do?It literally displaces matter.There's no sword that can cut through anything. Period.Don't like it? Take it up to Togashi.
>>268304740>It one-shot a Peon Ant, so it would one-shot Meruem.yes, if Knov could get within a kilometer of Meruem first without shitting himself and then getting right next to him. >Killua's yo-yo's would destroy Meruem's head.Physical attack, not teleporting>Ripper Cyclotron would explode Meruem's body.Enhanced physical attack, not teleporting>Battle Cantabile would crush it to death.conjured physical attack, not teleporting>Rising Sun would cook him alive.transmuted attack, could possibly damage Meruem due to heat but incredibly unlikely>Kalluto would rip his limbs apart with his paper dragon.Physical attack via manipulated paper. Meruem doesn't even feel the tickle of the wind. Also not teleporting>If Gon got a hold of Meruem he would crush him with his grip.Pitou's fear is unfounded, Gon and even Gon-san don't do shit. Still no teleporting>Kite's sniper gun would shoot through his head.Bullet dents on Meruem's head and Kite just stares in shock before dying. He wishes one of his crazy slots teleported instead>Kite's scythe would slice him in half.Meruem would dodge but if he didn't I wouldn't expect any damage. Same as above, Ging should have taught him offensive warping and not bullshit reincarnation. Now compare apples to apples and not oranges.
>>268304969He didn't do express his point very well, but he's right.See how Gon and Killua could not advance through Hisoka's aura even if they wanted to.With a strong enough aura you could repel Bungee Gum before it reached your body.
>>2683049691. Bungee gum is aura.2. Aura can be stopped with aura.3. Bungee gum attaches to physical objects, not to aura.ergo4. With enough aura you can stop bungee gum from reaching you.Any fail in my logic?
>>268304969>Meruem would also smash Hakoware to pieces if he really triedHow are you still coping this many years after the fact?
>>268305209To add, Zazan sent Feitan flying with her aura. One could do the same against any attack given enough aura.
>>268305193>>268305209This is Hisoka pushing out his aura. Meruem would not have to do this, the passive aura on his body wouldn't let anything come into contact with him. Netero hitting Meruem and not having his attack deflected by his Ren is a plothole.>>268305236Togashi made this scene to prove that nen isn't absolute and Meruem just had to try harder.
>>268305209>Any fail in my logic?Youpi in combat mode couldn't stop Hakoware from being planted on him. he has much more aura than even Morel. So not everything can be blocked just with aura. >>268305344>cope the postIndestrucible chads still reign supreme
>>268305098It's all so tiresome.>>253975980>>267106385
>>268305390>Indestructible
>>268305512Being stored in her stomach and only leaving when Cheetu died isn't destruction.
>>268305512Hina has more aura than Meruem, he should've served her.
>>268305539Knuckle can't have two Potcleans at the same time.It was destroyed by Hina.
>>268305236>>268305390Nanika... please kill this puppet
The "everything in nen is equivalent to bashing someone with an aura hammer" crowd is one of the most endearing subsets of posters.
>>268257324>takes the spiders 3 days to meet up and discuss Illumi joining and the hunt for Hisoka>Nobunaga, Phinks and Feitan spent another 3 days sitting in the Cha-R office waiting for the second-in-command to show up to meet them>they spend another 3 days sitting in the office waiting for Luini to reveal himself before acting>haven't seen the other spiders in 6 days
>>268305607Good point. And I'm sure it would work.Once again proving nothing is "absolute" in Nen.At most something can be "essentially absolute" for 99.9% of cases.According to the logic of some posters here, Gon getting healed is a literal plot hole because an Exorcist categorically said NO ONE could remove his curse.
>>268257324He said it'd take 2 weeks and even with Bill's ability I don't think he has any interested in speeding up the process since his goal is to prolong a stalemate. Hasn't it only been 8 days?
>>268305567>Knuckle can't have two Potcleans at the same time.Says who? They tested potclean with Meleron while the one on Cheetu was still active.
>>268306135Cheetu's Potclean was long destroyed when they met Meleoron.
>>268306257It wasn't gone until Silva killed him. Unless you are a mental midget that thinks exorcism is destruction?
>>268299557Cheers for the clarification. It's like there's an implicit false equivalence drawn between Knov's ability and however a wormhole is supposed to work, if such a thing exists and could indeed transport matter after making a clean cut. Why wouldn't it exert a massive gravitational pull and destroy everything including Knov instead?It's a hatsu not a different kind of magic portal existing outside the limitations of nen. Mentioning each and every exact parameter such as how tough of a material Knov could cut would be tedious for a character with episodic relevance>>268304397Nobody has ever stated that Hisoka's gum has infinite sticking potential. Hisoka could say, 'It can stick to the smoothest surface you'll meet in your day-to-day life'' but it would be pointless information. There are no physical experiments you can perform on Togashi's fictional system. Of course you have to extrapolate certain information from one of the most basic features of aura. If any parameter of an ability can truly be described as infinite then the necessity of hatsu needing restrictions breaks apart.
>>268306685Nobody ever insists on a truly infinite power, but the parameters shown continue to function. IE Hakoware IS indestructible to any amount of blunt force, but can also be removed through alternate means. Anons headcanon blunt force nullifying everything conceived when that's shown to not be the case.
>>268270752>Anyone can gain lose or alter an ability mid combatIt has only happened a couple times and they were moments of characters letting their intense emotions make tremendous decisions for them - and they didn't pan out well. The onlookers all remark these weren't normal events. Normally it takes hours or days to do something like that. You can easily find more egregious examples in other battle shounen (Jotaro vs. Dio, Luffy vs. Kaido, like half the fights in Bleach).>>268270825No one has ever modified their Hatsu mid fight. It's presumably possible, if you're extremely talented and under severe emotional strain, but it hasn't happened yet.As for the nuances of Nen, that's up to the user. If the user doesn't specify, their aura will do whatever it "thinks" makes sense. We see this with Welfin, where he actually doesn't know how to turn his ability off because he didn't specify a killswitch, but he didn't specify he didn't want a killswitch either, so the ability had one it created itself without his knowledge (telling the truth). And we hear Kurapika talk about how he didn't know if his Judgment Chain would kill him if he used it on himself since it's something he wanted to do but he's not a spider and he originally gave it that restriction. And once again we see Chrollo talk about how Order Stamp controls "human-like objects" but doesn't work on corpses, because the user didn't consider corpses to be objects, though Chrollo does. In other words, you ask your aura to do stuff and it will to its best ability and understanding of your terms, but it runs on fine-tuned specifications - if you don't write them, it will.>>268270879Kurapika's smart. He wouldn't design his ability in a way that's this easily countered.>Can Kurapika modify it?If he takes the time to do so, but you could also use that time just making a new ability.>>268270917The manga answered this.
>>268305236It's funny how you faggots always post this retarded panel with a straight face like it's something big, but when the panel where Meruem makes the royal guards shit their pants >>268298629 it's posted, you just ignore it or make it seem like it's nothing.
Would Pitou be interested in human mating habits? Considering how much she read up on anatomy and medicine
>>268307277OP had* more soul. Its been slop ever since the timeskip. Meanwhile HxH has remained consistently highbrow.
>>268307013If Meruem died, she would change gears and consider becoming a queen, but why not just take Pouf or Youpi as a consort? Pouf would probably an hero, but Youpi would be down.
>>268307277>One Piece simply has more soul and beautyTrue>and ambitionFalse>while HxH comes off as the scatterbrain ADHD ramblings of an autistic spergTrue>No one really cares about gay bullshit magic system ramblings by a bunch of stick figuresFalse>while everyone on the planet shed tears for the Strawhats and the journey across the Grand LineTrue
>>268307388Ive never read One Piece. What made the time skip so bad?
>>268307428I dont want to imagine how fucked up Youpi's kids would be
>>268307277
>>268307000>but when the panel where Meruem makes the royal guards shit their pants >>268298629 it's posted,Meruem's cocksucking subordinates can't magically make him capable of destroying an indestructible construct. It doesn't matter how much aura he has, he can't destroy Hakoware directly. He can make Knuckles pass out, he can pay back Knucke's the interest in spades. But that mascot isn't going to break just because.
>>268306827>IE Hakoware IS indestructible to any amount of blunt forceEssentially indestructible, not truly indestructible.If an aura beam strong enough to destroy their entire planet was shot through Potclean, it would be destroyed.There are no infinite parameters in Nen.
>>268307733>If an aura beam strong enough to destroy their entire planet was shot through Potclean, it would be destroyed.More headcanon
>>268307733>If an aura beam strong enough to destroy their entire planet was shot through Potclean, it would be destroyed.Because humans can't breath in space and Knuckle's would have died in the blast regardless.
Knov's Scream aside, have there been any other "straightforward" nen abilities supposedly capable of mortally wounding literally anyone without the need of multiple conditions due to their physical nature?
>>268307981Does Camilla's cat count?
>>268307981nothing says the cat is the best shit ever and can one shot anyone. the cat can be circumvented in numerous ways. just dont fight the cat. dont let it smush you into paste lmao
>>268307981I would not consider Knov's ability straightforward, but a similar speedblitz-inclined power would be Cheetu's Tag or Pakunoda's Memory Bomb.
>>268307981A manipulator stabbing you and telling you to kill your self
>>268308603A stabbing manipulator has to overcome durability. Baise only has to kiss, but she doesn't seem like a pure coercive Manipulator rather than an extreme version of Sale-Sale's power.
Cooks the egg the rice of the heat
>>268306827You guys may be having a slightly different argument there. Other than what you replied to>>268295226 (You) is my only other post.The restrictions imposed upon Hakoware make it too durable even for Meruem to destroy with an aura blast is the straightforward conclusion. If Hakoware itself had other functions I would find its insane resistance harder to ignore.
>>268308819It's a type of construct classified as indestructible. Yokotani's robots and Cheetu's hourglass are another. Hakoware is the source of Zetsu and consequently its exorcism stops the process. Yokotani's robots detain targets and Cheetu's hourglass was likely the source of the punishment(that or the 'rule' ascribed to Cheetu's nen space in general).We already have nen users that, by technicality, can absolutely outmatch Meruem's power(Kortopi and a bomb). As has been shown, Scream is Knov displacing the space within his aura glob, and that's not something that is passively defended against. Could there be more restrictions/limitations to the power we don't know about? Sure. Do abilities stop working because or raw power? No.
>>268308754>>268308819Shut up. Insecure people are not allowed to post in /hxh/ gen. You dishonor our people. Kill yourself. Also kill yourself gonfucker. Gon is for /ss/, not your weirdass maid fantasies or shipping with Killua.
So what are we getting too before the next inevitable extended hiatus >He’ll hiatus before reaching 420>get to 420, hiatus >gets past 420, hiatus>gets to 430, hiatus>Togashi actually isn’t going on hiatus anytime soon, at best where gonna get small breaks
>>268309142Hakoware is comprised of A.P.R. and I.R.S.ARP merely announces accrued debt. IRS fucks you over with Zetsu.
>>268309833It's the same untouchable construct, and clearing APR is what stops the accruance which leads to Zetsu. Just referring to the whole process as Hakoware is simpler, or "Potclean" if you want.
>>268309678Women would love seeing him in a maid outfit, look how cute he is!
>>268309142>Yokotani's robots and Cheetu's hourglass are another."Essentially indestructible", not truly indestructible. They would be overcome by Halkenburg's Arrow.Shikaku repeatedly saw Halkenburg and his followers' massive amount of aura, and when he saw the shot he didn't even think if he could block it or not. I bet in his mind his ability could defend against ANY ability. That didn't end too well for him.We already have an onscreen precedent for an ability being overcome by a ridiculous amount of aura >>268299441Funnily enough, Shikaku was a Manipulator, the category you guys insist is exempt from the rules of Nen lol
>>268311024>. They would be overcome by Halkenburg's Arrow.The arrow can only possess humans. It shouldn't work on those two things. > Shikaku was a Manipulator, the category you guys insist is exempt from the rules of Nen lolIt isn't exempt. The rule you claim only applies to at best two categories.
>>268311024There's nothing for the arrow to destroy lol, it's a soul swapping technique without physical destructive force. It's stated by narration to bypass defenses as a power. Shikaku is shocked after the card creation doesn't work, he attempted it despite the colossal powergap.>Funnily enough, Shikaku was a Manipulator, the category you guys insist is exempt from the rules of Nen lolManipulation isn't exempt from anything, it's people like you headcanoning nen resistance via aura quantity when manipulated individuals often end up having their aura used as fuel for the ability. And we know from Balsamilco that Shikaku would have resisted Manipulation via self-manipulation regardless of the gap.
>>268311024>Shikaku was a ManipulatorAnd we will never find out how. Does he telekinetically move the cards around? I guess that'd facilitate a, "You activated my trap card," moment.
>>268264589Feitan is getting killed by Hisoka to show how a retarded Hatsu can fuck you up. Is going to look like a second Kastro
>>268307013My headcanon is that if the king is killed before he manages to mate, the royal guards will become kings or queens to fulfill this function on their own and will look for a new place to create a new colony.
>>268312907Feitan's glued to Phinks and Hisoka doesn't know their abilities.
>>268312480Benjamin has Yugioh now, so it's not "never". The basic concept seems like a GI card and Conjuration + Emission to me, so Manipulation is a good halfway typing to utilize both powers. On top of that he could set the cards to trigger after certain moments, shuffle a deck, etc., which would be pure Manipulation.
>>268312907Feitan is triggering a second Pain Packer, it's too novel not to happen again especially since he has various forms. But one after or during his death seems most likely, at which point Feitan has his first major impact on the story by putting a hole in the Whale.
if self manipulation truly worked like idiots itt think, then every single nen user that wanted to fight would have a mini-hatsu that manipulates a single hair follicle with a single unit of aura to stay erect at all times, that would render all manipulation attempts useless. because technically, i am under the spell of my own manipulation ability, and first come, first served so all your nen is useless illumi. lmao
>>268313474he will not activate pain packer on the whale. what if it sinks, what if every other spider dies? what if there are spiders on the floors above or beneath him? its a garbage ability my man. its utterly useless in these environments. also remember that an enemy can just put several walls of matter between the ability and the enemy, and simply run away, protected by steel. it will not be used.
>>268313516That would prevent manipulation of that hair follicle, yes. Not the rest of the body. Someone like Kaiser would be immune to manipulation if he's doing what Melody thinks he's doing. Hope that helped.
>>268313558It doesn't have to kill anyone important and he can die alone. The large environmental damage denting the Whale just seems like the most obvious relevant event to come out of a huge AOE.I'm usually prone to shit on Pain Packer but it's fine. Feitan is still good at fighting without it so it really does fit the role of an ace. Running away from it is a matter of knowing that it's actually coming and/or being very fast.
>>268313474My tinfoil hat theory is all of the spiders who showed off their abilities in the CA arc are gonna get wasted without doing much. It already happened to Shalnark. The spider part of CA is a pretty pointless detour in the arc and I think the whole reason it happened was because Togashi knew those characters weren't going to get to do much later. Nobunaga chastised Luini for wanting the spiders to go nuclear without an objection from Feitan who was right there in the room. They're thieves. They aren't on board the black whale to kill everyone.
>>268313568First come first served is a rule of thumb that applies to essentially all practical situations, not a hard-coded rule of the universe.Let's say Zushi, with his 2000 total aura, and 200 aura output, made a level 1 Manipulation ability that allowed him to move his own arms with his mind instead of his muscles.Then imagine Shaiapouf, with his around 700,000 total aura, made an Ultimate Manipulation ability where he sacrificed 99% of his cells forever to gain control of someone's arms for 2 minutes.Do you think that after he sacrificed 99% of his cells and tried to manipulate Zushi's arms, his Nen would just go " *poof* "He was already being Manipulated. Tough luck!"You'd be an idiot to think so.
>>268314181You can't activate an ability with an invalid target, please for the love of god stop shoving this overly simplistic headcanon into everything. They already acknowledged Shikaku's self-manipulation as a valid counter to the arrow if that much aura was dedicated to manipulating him, we don't care about your Zushi hypotheticals where you endlessly extend the ceiling after the series proves you wrong. Anything Zushi is already manipulating is an invalid target.
>>268314102I agree to a point, but their CA mini-arc did a lot of other things. Confirmation that Shizuku is from MC and her having Chrollo earrings feels more important than her being able to suck up blood with Blinky and showing skin, for example. Likewise with Phinks, his ability is revealed(is it his ace as well?), but his personality regarding the elders and his own version of compassion is his big focus. There's definitely an element where characters are fair game after showcasing the bulk of their powers, but it can also be said that prior reveals makes the story less sporadic when dealing with something on the level of Pain Packer. Feitan is not an integral character, so you have to be delicate with how you establish and use his powers.
>>268312907Rising sun literally counters bungee gum you retard fuck
>>268314181>Do you think that after he sacrificed 99% of his cells and tried to manipulate Zushi's arms, his Nen would just go " *poof* "He was already being Manipulated. Tough luck!"
>>268314181holy shit imagine being this dumb
Comfy
>>268313474>Feitan is triggering a second Pain Packer, it's too novel not to happen again especially since he has various formsCharacter die without showing all their abilities all the time.>Pokkle only showed 2 out of 7 arrows>Kite only showed 2.5 out of 9 weapons>narration explained every spider has abilities they keep hidden from the others but Kortopi and Uvogin died after only showing one>Zeno said Hyakushiki Kannon was probably Netero's strongest ability, meaning he has others, including at least one almost as useful as Hyakushiki Kannon, which we never saw>Cheetu died before showing Monroe Walk>Togashi's dying before we see Zushi or Wing do anything
Why did Hisoka spare machi
>>268297414Rollan
>>268309142I could buy the entire thing where Nen constructs are a special subcase not quite like regular objects, even if they do interact with the physical world. If only because punching a conduit for a curse-like effect to death doesn't make intuitive sense and shouldn't yield results. As for Knov being able to cut everything I have my doubts that this was ever the intent behind what the ability can do. To me it would be pure contradiction and paraphrasing 'cut everything' as 'displaces space' instead - as if that wouldn't require even more limitations - isn't equivalent to rigging the system but dispenses with it entirely.
>>268315279Going through this point by point is needless but the short of it is you listing assumed abilities, even more minor characters, and characters who all demonstrated more than Feitan did. I'm not saying everything has to be shown in its entirety, but it's a waste to not have Feitan use his power a second time and Togashi does cut things short or subvert at the expense of a story or whatever else people imply he does.
>>268315384I agree that Scream could have more conditions attached to it which we're unaware of, but I wouldn't consider it god tier if it didn't. The use case of bypassing durability shines in a niche where he's against someone who broadly outclasses and one-shots him.
Leorio is so FUCKING lucky.
>>268313474Feitan pain packer explosion is probably one of the easiest ways for Togashi to setup the Whale sinks avenue theory
>>268315494>assumed abilitiesWhich character has an assumed ability? Wing, I guess? Okay, remove him.>even more minor charactersFeitan is a minor character, but okay, remove Zushi.>and characters who all demonstrated more than Feitan didRemove Pokkle, Kite and Cheetu.You're still left with Kortopi, Uvogin and Netero. Perhaps you think the narrator was misleading and Kortopi and Uvogin didn't have more abilities, but rather, their one abilities had more nuance than they let on, or something. Okay. What about Netero? Zeno's comment that Netero had other abilities is identical to Phinks's comment about Feitan.
>>268315330Because she will kill him>chrollo's mistake was sparing hisoka>hisoka's mistake was sparing chi
>>268315279theory: Cheetu's 'Monroe Walk: The Blind Spot of War' is still active.
>>268315547It doesn't matter how you feel about it. You can't make a sword that will cut through anything. Knov's Scream was never said to bypass durability by anyone or anything. It's literally all headcanonScream's only feat is decapitating a Peon Ant that Killua's yo-yo's also did. Those same yo-yo's were easily destroyed by Palm.To scale that all the way to infinity (when such thing literally cannot exist) is beyond ridiculous.
>>268312302>halkenburg>villainRetarded af. He and Tserrid are the good guys of the arc.
>>268315783>>chrollo's mistake was sparing hisoka???Chrollo didn't spare shit.
>>268315810It's the energy required to move a surrounded area, consider it whatever you want. Izunavi's introductory words did irreparable damage to level one readers.
>>268315840Yes he did. Hisoka is pissed off because Chrollo didn't even bother killing him after promising a battle to the death. That was an insult since Hisoka was completely dominated in that fight.
>>268315330>Saving a strong character so he can satisfy his inner fightfag laterSeems pretty straightforward to me
>>268316008>strong
>>268315868Izunavi's words were not talking about a literal sword. They were an illustrative example to explain how there are no absolutes in Nen (Kurapika couldn't make unbreakable chains). You can only come CLOSE (essentially absolutes) with ENOUGH RESTRICTIONS. Restrictions only exist to multiply your aura output. If there are absolutes, you don't need to bother with multipliers.Netero spent weeks gathering aura for Zero Hand and spent all his life force on it. It only scratched Meruem.What is Knov sacrificing with Scream that would make him that powerful?
>>268314868Yeah, imagine believing all that channeled energy would simply disappear into thin air.
>>268315778Minor was in reference to Pokkle and Kortopi mostly, lol, I think Zushi is probably about as relevant as Feitan to date. But what he decides to develop and us seeing it is a different matter. Netero is another matter where I'd argue that he had sufficient demonstration if you imagine him having other powers, but I imagine it's just in reference to the different hand techniques all centered on his buddha. I do think Uvo and Kortopi probably had ace functionalities demonstrated, but I also don't think it's as pertinent Kortopi was largely a plot-device centered around his power, and while he has more comparative depth that's how I'd evaluate Feitan too. The fact that Feitan can use this is the effective climax to their mini-arc. Now rather than a gigantic bomb of an ability coming out of nowhere, we know it's something that can occur while Feitan is walking around on the boat. Even in the world where Feitan dies without using it, I'd wager that his inability to use it would have to be highlighted.
>>268316044We've barely seen Machi fight I'm not jumping the gun and saying she's weak because she happens to be team medic.
>>268316044The flashback goes pretty clear on showing she’s a Nen genius
The fundamental misunderstanding some people have about Nen is that they think Nen is "magic". Magic could make a sword that cuts through anything. Nothing would prevent it.Nen is channeled life energy. It works like a psychical force of Physics, and as such, it can be converted into units, and you can do math with it.Jajanken is not a "magically strong punch". It's a punch boosted with life energy with the force equivalent to 4000 aura.Manipulation is no different. The Manipulator finds a vehicle to insert his aura into his target object or person and gains different degrees of control depending on how many aura units they can output into them.Even Nanika is no different. She didn't magically heal Gon. Ai has a mysterious capacity of harnessing inhuman amounts of life energy (aura). Nanika harnessed enough energy to undo his curse, and such a high volume of energy was able to be felt across the city.Same story with Halkenburg's arrow. They convert its energy to an equivalent an Emitted fireball 5 meters in diameters that moves at a supersonic speed. That kind of conversion only makes sense because Nen is quantifiable like a force of Physics.Nen is not "le wacky conceptual magical system" like Medaka Box and such.
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>>268316256Abengane is an Ultimate and he was weaker than Genthru.
>>268316270Kek, Nobunaga would definitely say that.
>>268316051Nothing can work under any circumstance, displacement wouldn't either. Knov did nothing to put his aura on par with Netero in the same way Kortopi didn't before cloning an explosive thousands of times over.
>>268316044Togashi is retconning her into being special. He gave her the Arya-Melisandre scene in the spider flashback.>>268316105>I imagine it's just in reference to the different hand techniques all centered on his buddhaHis buddha is Hyakushiki Kannon. Zeno didn't say, "Zero Hand is probably his strongest," he said, "Hyakushiki Kannon is probably his strongest.">The fact that Feitan can use this is the effective climax to their mini-arc. Now rather than a gigantic bomb of an ability coming out of nowhere, we know it's something that can occur while Feitan is walking around on the boat. Even in the world where Feitan dies without using it, I'd wager that his inability to use it would have to be highlighted.I just don't see it that way. Each one of the spiders showed off their abilities. He went last because he's probably the strongest. The fact he has other forms was to drill home how out of his depth Kalluto is. Feitan doesn't ever have to use the ability again and other Troupe members have shown similar levels of destruction: Bonolenov can conjure a giant boulder, Franklin can riddle an entire room with bullets, Chrollo has permanent Sun & Moon which destroyed Heaven's Arena.
>>268316257Knov can still one shot any character without having a bunch of limits and restrictions on his ability , and Nen isn’t magic. It doesn’t have to be two separate concepts
>>268316270>>268316285Big Bungee Cum?
>>268316312Are you using a different translation? I checked and Zeno lists general talents like having the quietest aura then ends by detailing his ability. I don't really take away the idea that Netero had another actual power aside from that.The thing is that the Pain Packer against Zazan was small. Nothing the other Spider can do would replicate the level of destruction he'd cause under dire circumstances. Sidenote>Togashi is retconning her into being special.Machi has always had inexplicable hunches/intuition. The flashback mostly just plays into that aspect with genius level perception.
>>268316336>Knov can still one shot any characterSource?
>>268315547You're right that for a combat ability Scream would still be incredibly niche and not efficient at all. I'm still 50/50 on this particular one. If it's emission instead of conjuration you can kind of avoid the entire discussion and the Izunavi quote by saying that it has nothing to do with creating a space with infinite cutting power or displacing properties if you will. It's not exactly gaming the system that way since now he actually has to be born into that category. But I'm left thinking how his other 'alternate dimension' hatsu could be described as emission and if that's definitely conjuration then he would have to dabble in two categories that have terrible affinity penalties for each other.
>>268316893I think Izunavi's statement is universal, just more fluid than people tend to give it credit for.Knov's nen space is definitely Conjuration, but it has no special properties. The main gimmick is all the long-distance portals he can establish to bring people into that nen space. Cheetu is his reverse; Cheetu must tag to teleport both himself and the target into the nen space, but the space itself has an indestructible hourglass and a rule attached to it(the Tag game + punishments)
>>268315330So she could serve as a messenger for the rest of the Troupe, since Kortopi and Shalnark weren't going to day shit. Togashi outright confirmed that in the vol.33 afterword
>>268316690SCREAM?
>>268317136But afterwards it seemed more like Hisoka killed two birds with one stone by hiring Illumi to join the Troupe and inform them of Hisoka's proposed scenario.
>>268317134Cute
Cammy will get gangraped by fat old men
>>268298386>>268289934Gon in a dress or gorilla mode Bisky?
>>268317019>Izunavi's statement is universalI mean yeah, that's my first thought but it's not like Specialists don't get access to a less constrained set of tools, even if they usually have more limitations. The lines blur when it comes to those and it's much easier to create a nonsensically powerful ability unless you define it in a very rigid manner. I'm starting to think the weak link might actually be that Knov's ability is falsely classified under conjuration. Maybe emitters get a lot more bang for their buck in a few niches and while his ability is still incredibly shit for general purpose combat blocking it isn't an option.
Halkenburg will get gangraped by fat old men
>>268316893>>268317569Emission is a category like any other. Nen is one system, not 6 different ones.We agree that you can't make a sword that cuts through anything, right?Well, a portal that bypasses durability would be better than a sword that cuts through anything.Why wouldn't any competent Emitter only attack with portals? Think about it. Knov is not even an Ultimate Emitter to say his feat couldn't be matched.Why wouldn't Zeno, who's a canonically better Emitter than Knov and lives for assassinations not attack with teleporting dragons since they could bypass durability?Why would Netero spend weeks charging aura for his Zero Hand when he could just shoot a portal beam at Meruem? He knew Knov and his abilities. Netero is not an idiot.So how does Scream actually work?First thing to notice is the name of the ability: Window. Then Knov has to "close it".It's the equivalent of slamming shut a door against someone's body. If I slam a door against a rat, I can decapitate it. If I slam a door against a bear, that's a completely different story.Meruem's body, like anyone's body (even irl), offers resistance against being teared apart like that. The RG's worried Meruem could be transported whole by an ability, but they never feared him getting sliced by one.Neither the narrator, nor Knov, nor anyone ever said anything about Scream bypassing durability. It's all headcanon from a few JJK fags.
>>268317569>Maybe emitters get a lot more bang for their buck in a few nichesYeah, in range and speed. Skilled Nen users always tap into multiple categories for their abilities and you see this all the time with Emission, either tapping into Manipulation (Senritsu, Sayird) or Transmutation (Pokkle, Zeno). The real strength of their abilities is usually their range. Look at how with Dragon Dive, Zeno absolutely shits aura out all over the place. That kind of AOE would be difficult for a Transmuter. Meanwhile, transmuting your aura to be sharp? I mean, even Gon does that.
>>268318960Why would anyone ever Transmute their aura to be sharp if pOrTaLs could bypass durability?This notion is retarded. Why wouldn't Zeno, an Ultimate Emitter, give teleporting properties to his dragons to make them unblockable?Occam's Razor: it doesn't work like that.You can't make a sword that will cut through anything, so you can't make a portal that will cut through anything.
>>268259368Why would hisoka or the troupe even care beyond the troupe using the mafia to search places. The guards just learned nen and are probably useless compared to them.
>>268318954I think the thing people forget is that Nen is not a poorly coded game you can exploit, it's like a GM you negotiate with. A GM would not let you have a portal that can one-shot anything, so neither would Nen. We only see characters "exploit" Nen through the use of information manipulation, psychology and exploiting their own freakish circumstances since the entire system seems based around the idea you're normal (eg. Hyakushiki Kannon is strong because Netero's hands are fast, it's balanced around someone not having hands that fast, this is also probably why the ants are so gifted).If Knov uses Scream on someone stronger than him, it either gets jammed on them or they get shunted out of it. Probably the former, since it's a "window." Someone like Meruem would probably be able to grab onto the portal and force it open. Not that Meruem would let him loop it around his head to begin with.
Was it rape?
>>268319193You can't rape a girl if you love her and want to marry her.
>>268319070This argument is always so bad because, besides missing the whole premise of nen where people specialize into what they're suited for as an individual for effective results, DRAGON LANCE IS BETTER THAN SCREAM.
>>268274493Does Kurapika know he has the scarlet eyes?
>>268319276- Zeno literally lives for assassination;- Zeno is an Ultimate-level Nen user. He's literally as good with Emission as a Nen user can get;- Zeno shows vast knowledge about Nen when fighting Chrollo, so we can say for certain Zeno knows about all types of powers;In his 67 years, Zeno would come to know about teleportation abilities, and even about ones like Knov's. Why wouldn't he give teleporting properties to Dragon Lance? Is he just lazy, despite being an Ultimate-level Emitter and having trained all his life?It doesn't matter that Dragon Lance is "generally better". If Scream worked like in your headcanon, a teleporting dragon would've killed Chrollo right there and then. If Scream worked like in your headcanon, a teleporting dragon could've EASILY killed Meruem. It simply does not work like that.You have an ego investment of years in this so you'll never let it go, but logic and common sense are simply not on your side.
>>268319563You don't casually "give teleporting properties" to an ability, and Zeno very clearly didn't pick dragons out of a hat as an Ultimate level nen user. Scream is performed by someone with a warping ability unmatched by any other character in the series, at a close range, with their aura pooled together, on a delay. With this being said, again, it's WORSE than Dragon Lance. Asking why a nen master wouldn't Kastro himself by adjusting his ability towards something he isn't suited for to get payoff he doesn't need isn't a gotcha question, it just further highlights a lack of nen understanding.
During Yorknew, Feitan said they hadn't all gathered in years. When Uvo died, only Chrollo, Shalnark and Nobunaga were affected by it, and Chrollo and Shalnark got over it after going on their massacre. Nobunaga was especially affected, though (and didn't participate in the massacre), so he was hellbent on getting Kurapika specifically. After Pakunoda dies, Shizuku and the OG members who saw her memories seem a little upset, and Phinks, despite moments earlier threatening to kill her, suddenly acts as her mouthpiece relaying her thoughts ("Let this end with me"), and later somberly thanks Gon and Killua and tells them they aren't going after Kurapika anymore, remembering Pakunoda hearing them say they don't want Kurapika to kill anymore.Hisoka then kills Shalnark and Kortopi and we see the spiders on the whale, and they look fucking awful. They all either look angry, exhausted or contemplative - except Illumi, the new guy. They all fight over the right to kill Hisoka personally. Later, Nobunaga reminisces on how the Troupe was founded and we see the OG members were actually all childhood friends.The reason I'm going over all of this is because it feels like Togashi has almost retconned the spiders into being a group of friends who care about each other, when originally they appeared to be more like coworkers, with some of them being closer than others. However, it's possible they haven't been retconned, but rather they've changed after Pakunoda's death. Chrollo had a lot of time to think about the events of Yorknew - Pakunoda's betrayal, Kurapika's vengeance, etc.If the Troupe ran into Kurapika on the whale, what would happen? They have not mentioned him since Yorknew and they feel like different characters right now. Would they kill him on sight, or treat him neutrally like someone they used to hold a grudge against, or would they actively avoid him, or something else?>>268319308nigga...
>it's yet another "screamfag gets BTFO'd" episode
>>268319769>Asking why a nen master wouldn't Kastro himself by adjusting his ability towards something he isn't suited forAnon, Zeno is literally better with Emission than Knov. He's more suited for it if anything.You're getting desperate.
>>268319834I don’t get it. You wrote all that from something that’s obvious. Are you sure you’re not autistic or do you just simply don’t understand human emotions?Hisoka scenario is different. He’s a former member who everyone except Chrollo and Machi suspected at one point, and Hisoka worked with them on missions before so they still trusted him as a spider, but he murdered two members in cold blood. Kurapika was a result of one of their massacres and just getting revenge. He’s not a lustfuck like Hisoka.Uvogin went to fight Kurpaika HIMSELF. There was no sudden deatmatch, no sneak kill, it was a true 1v1. Uvogin dying like that is much less worse than Hisoka sneak blitzing kortopi I and Shalnark without their powers. Not to mention, Pakunodas memeories helped calm them down instead of instantly going berserk after her death. Did you forget the torupe was going through internal corn lit the whole time of late Yorknew?It’s also entirely posisble the torupe have just been beaten down. They’ve possibly lost more members in the last 2 years than they have their whole lives, and Hisoka was a part of every one since he worked with Kurapika in Yorknew.Also, again, Chrollo only RECENTLY got off from the exorcist. The torupe weren’t gonna hunt down Kurpaika with Chrollo still Kurapika chained. As soon as Chrollo unchained, he has to deal with Hisoka. And outside of that, the troupe had no reason to go search out Kurapika outside of Nobunaga who is chaindude lusted. Immediately after Hisoka fight, Hisoka kills 2 members, so Hisoka is their priority. I swear, for a fanbase that’s supposed to “represent” the series, Hunter fans ask the dumbest questions. Sorry if I came off harsh
>>268319925Zeno reached Ultimate over decades as he sculpted his technique to accomplish what he set out to make: draconic projectiles. Feel free to let me know where teleportation factors into that. There are levels of complexity to moves and then there is what the actual ability does, which is inspired by your passion, life experience, fears, etc. To say that Zeno, or really any Emitter with a higher/equal proficiency rating than Knov, can imitate the his powerset is a joke. Komugi by your logic could've casually developed something akin to Uvogin's BBI, because it's not like personal interest has any factor in the powersystem centered on personal interests, right?
>>268319834Honestly I find it strange how the troupe doesn't seem concerned about Kurapika after Uvo's and Paku's deaths but wants to kill Hisoka. Maybe you can say that Shalnark and Kortopi died because of Chrollo and that's why he wants to avenge them, but still.
TERRIBLE NEWS:The most bland character in all of Hunter x Hunter got a gameplay trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-SlbcRDD5g
>>268320059>he murdered two members in cold blood>There was no sudden deatmatch, no sneak kill, it was a true 1v1. Uvogin dying like that is much less worse than Hisoka sneak blitzingThey care about that? Since when? They're criminals and kill random people all the time.>Chrollo only RECENTLY got off from the exorcistIt's been over a year.>the troupe had no reason to go search out Kurapika outside of Nobunaga who is chaindude lustedWell, he's apparently pretty bad at it since Kurapika still worked for the same group he did 2 years ago, is incredibly well-connected, they had a pair of eyes they could've baited him with and Mizai found him in like a day.
>>268320368machi kills hisoka....confirmed....
>>268320439That's actually Chrollo
>>268320368>Genthru STILL doesn't have a fucking trailer
>>268320368Hunter x Hunter is not a manga you can pull a hundred characters out of and have it be satisfying, but even still, 16 feels like too few. Especially for a 3v3 game. MvC 2 and 3 had ~50 characters. DBFZ had 24 and people said that felt like too few. Personally, I think 24 would be perfect for a HxH game, but they can't even reach that.I watched a dev interview earlier and I agreed with their logic for making HxH a 3v3 game, but they said shit like, "Hunter x Hunter is best suited for a fighting game," which is a lie since only half the characters are fighters, and, "The thing most important to us is staying true to the IP," which is the biggest lie of all: there's literally nothing about the UI or mechanics that scream Hunter x Hunter (what the fuck is Overgear?) and the characters use reused animations from MvC. The interesting aspects of their Nen abilities only really show up in their cinematics, which is the same thing every cheap anime game does.This game looks like a mod of MvC that just replaces the models with fanmade GC-tier Hunter x Hunter ones.
>>268320670>Machi wait, I'm in the middle of an incompressible plan to--ACK
>>268320368>SHITchiWhat are they thinking
>>268320699He was kinda leaked I think, we werent supposed to know he was in the game yet, i assume next its gonna be uvoguin and then genthru, or maybe genthru next and then uvoguin, we also werent supposed to know uvoguin is in the game
>>268320926He was shown in gameplay footage but the guy who played it actively avoided doing anything with him so no one knows how he actually plays. I just want to know they implemented Countdown.
>>268320788I do think a FAITHFUL fighter would be one of the best ways to represent HxH. The truest game to experience HxH through would be a homebrew TTRPG, and anything digital that tries to capture nen development will fail to capture the idea of making whatever you want and applying things like vows.This still looks like soulful kuso and some gameplay I've seen looks far better than the trailers, but the licensing ate up what was already a shoestring budget and them forcing the game into their 3v3 mold definitely hurts given the roster size.
>>268320926Uvo and Machi have been seen in official trailers several times. Genthru was in Justin's video somewhat unintentionally. Looks like he summons the Bombers as part of his generic attacks. I can only imagine RELEASE being his ultimate.
>>268320393>They care about that? Since when? They're criminals and kill random people all the time.Again, that’s a giant point of their character that Gon literally calls out: they’re merciless criminals to everyone else except their people. Of course they care. It’s even more enhanced when you see how they react to Nobunaga emotional ass>it’s been over a yearAgain, he is being chased by the clown. Why the fuck would he stop to worry about Kurapika instead of his the priority like his actual stalker.>well, he’s apparently pretty badOf course Nobuanga would be bad at finding Kurpaika whose intelligence is top tier. Again, the troupe aren’t idiots. They understand the nuances. There’s a reason they didn’t senselessly chase after Silva after her killed one of their own. But again; kurapika has no reason to be their priority. THEY WILL ALWAYS HAVE A CHANCE TO KILL HIM. The troupes priority was what it should be. Fix Chrollo’s problem. And they did do that,
>>268257324>makes 400 chapters on over 20 yearsthis will never end, togashi will die before this is even finished.
>>268318954>It's the equivalent of slamming shut a door against someone's bodyGod you are still the same retard that keeps pushing this narrative for over half a decade. Except now you have wrapped up this idea that if every character doesn't use emissions this exact way they are somehow as dumb as you are. Not everyone wants to warp parts of themselves or others and that's the end of it.
THE CUTEST
>>268321634>God you are still the same retard that keeps pushing this narrative for over half a decade.I haven't been on /a/ for that long. That are more people that disagree with your retarded notion.A born and raised assassin that dedicates their lives to assassination would have the greatest incentive ever to make an insta-kill ability if it was that simple.Scream was never said to be an insta-kill or bypass anything. Stay mad.
>>268320368For a moment I thought you were referring to Genthru, lmao seethe.
But what about Kalluto's penis?
>>268322038>I haven't been on /a/ for that longThen you should lurk more and don't act like those other morons. >That are more people that disagree with your retarded notion.It's not my notion, it's the literal story. >if it was that simple.It has nothing to do with simplicity and everything to do with personal desires. Only three characters in the whole series actually have the power to teleport select parts of a target. It's not that desirable of a power despite how much you are over hyping it. >Scream was never said to be an insta-kill or bypass anythingIt doesn't have too. It just has to be a teleportation ability and the rest is implied and shown. >Stay mad.Why would I be mad when I'm just using the actual story as my basis and not personal incredulity and headcanon?
>>268322453A dead body has no aura to protect itself from being teared apart. This was already explained to you.After the Election, if Gon had Nen, he could go to where Meruem was and cut his corpse with Scissors. He couldn't do that while he was still alive.
>>268270752>Here's my problems with Nen. Anyone can gain lose or alter an ability mid combat.You've already lost the argument in your first two sentences. Out of all the Nen battles and applications we've seen maybe only 2% of them feature ability gain. So yeah, it seems there is no problem with Nen. Amazing. Thanks for wasting our time.
>>268322564>A dead body has no aura to protect itself from being teared apart. This was already explained to you.What does that have to do with a page showing how even when an incredible valuable power was lost, people weren't jumping on replacing Luini because of their own ambitions? If you are going to pretend every assassin needs to have an offensive teleportation power designed around killing, maybe you should read the story again. But I doubt you are someone new to these threads if you are regurgitating the same tired arguments just because a page was posted even if the argument wasn't even going that direction.
oh, hey, uvogin trailer, for whoever cares https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpNyFwI20cY
>>268322790>kurapika repeating "nandato?!" 3 times in a row on a trailergodly game...
>>268322781Your pic is supposed to refute what exactly?
>>268322160small, feminine, and cute
>>268322874Just another professional killer not using their latent emissions proficiency to make the power you think he should have.
>>268322453Luinibros... It still hurts...
>>268322992He's a hit man that just learned about Nen.He's not an Ultimate-level Emitter, Head of the most powerful assassin family in the world, trained for assassination since birth.
>>268323082>He's a hit man that just learned about Nen.He had the capacity to make any ability he imagined thanks to Morena's power, and he chose that. >He's not an Ultimate-level Emitter, Head of the most powerful assassin family in the world, trained for assassination since birth.This keeps being stated without explaining why it should matter. >>268323063I really thought he was going to stick around longer.
Gons dad destroys Killua’s dad. Top 5 Nen user > wannabe dragon ball assassinTogashi is great at building up the speculation about characters skills and levels. Just look at this arc with ging, Pariston, beyond. But he dropped the ball on Silva. He hasn’t been that cool since the second it was revealed he was scared of Chrollo and needed his dad to kill him
>>268320154especially since they can just like... HunterGoogle and find out Kurapika is on the Boat protecting wobble. Maybe Shalnark is the only one of the troupe who can use a computer? it also makes it worse if they know Hisoka is on board. Like they know Hisoka and Pika linked up. Wouldn't it be a disastrous situation for them if that happened again?
>silva Weaker than his dad btw
>>268324045I mean, the thing in that Chrollo fight is that Zeno was trying to guarantee the kill since Chrollo could possibly have any ability in his book. From their perspective Chrollo could just pull a teleportation ability and escape. But you're 100% correct. Ging > Silva.
>>268316257This was the last panel we had of Morel, Knov, Ikalgo, Meleoron, Palm, Goreinu and Canary.Hope we see them again in the future.
>>268324145>Maybe Shalnark is the only one of the troupe who can use a computer?Shalnark was the only hunter in the troupe (besides Hisoka and now Illumi). They need a hunter's license to use the hunter's site. Now that I think about it it's silly that not everyone in the troupe is a hunter.
Reminder that Theta is a whore
>>268298669Ging IS Yusuke. His main ability is the Spirit Wave.> The "Dark Continent" is literally just the demon world> Keiko died of an incurable disease some time after then end of YYH> Yusuke realized he'll outlive his human connections anyway, due to demon based youth, and vanishes > Reinvents himself. New name. New purpose.> He's so elusive because he doesn't want his former boss finding him either> The less who know him the better on that note> With his old purpose and life gone, he just goes around having fun> or pretending he's having fun> The angel's breath card was inspired by Keiko. Kuwabara as an older man is going to come and slap some sense in to him in the DC arc.
>>268324860I wonder if Togashi Iactually gonna make Tserriendich fall in love with theta. Theta seems like she’d fuck him if he wasn’t an evil devil, like a hot coworker you lose attraction to because of a shit personality not sure about the 4th prince’s view of her
Fuck it, I need to see the Black Whale go to Hell. Either the seed ceremony goes wrong and thousands of punitive evil spirits show up, or the Dark Continent starts sending waves of monsters to invade the boat.Real survival horror resident evil shit. Kurapika with Woble in one hand and a gun in the other shooting his way out, the Zodiacs and Prince Benjamin’s soldiers fighting off waves of devil monsters and establishing a safe zone. Mafia footsoldiers carting off women by the dozens “just in case.” Troupe vs Hisoka in the middle of a March of 1,000 Demons. Illumi turning hundreds of civilians into needle men and casually walking to the 1st tier while his slaves distract the invaders.Morena torn apart by DC animals. Halkenburg possessing a calamity with his arrow. Feitan nuking the boiler room. Fuck the Black Whale give me total pandemonium NOW
Gon is the cutest
>>268324912Oh and lest I forget> If Gon had let the tape finish playing> Ging would have spoken about Keiko> The pregnancy stone from GI is a red herring> Mister Gon was actually Gon tapping in to his demon form> Sudden hair growth included
>>268324669Male
>>268324983Indeed
>>268324162weaker than abengane, equal in strength to komugi
>>268325143
>>268276087He enhances his brain which is why he is so smart and has perfect nen control and was able to perfectly predict so many things.
Ging is an emitterchad, Togashi told me so.
Moritonio oneshots Chrollo btw
could you enhance your dick to make it bigger? asking for a friend
>>268325267>can copy any stike ability He is definitely a enhancer
>>268325193Hrrnnggg he's soooo cute
If gon is a 1 and ten million talent wtf is Tserriednich? A one and a billion or a once and a lifetime talent?
>>268325413Neon-tier talent
>>268325267>Mastery over Emission and Transmutation>can copy any strike-type ability>Simple, determined, selfish, and never liesYeah, Ging is an Enhancer.
>>268325479Why hasn't ging hit memory limit if he copied like 5 abilities
>>268325587The "his nen ability is enhancing his brain" theory is true or since all he copies are strike based abilities and not super complex abilities they don't take up much memory.
>>268325587Top 5 nen user.
>>268325587Memory space varies between characters.Kurapika has a brokenly high memory space. Maybe even a bit too much.
>>268325413he's better and also not a literal twelve year old>>268325587memory limit scales with intelligence and talent
>I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times- Bruce LeeGing? A confirmed fraud.
>>268325832Meanwhile:BUNGEE GUM.
>>268325832Fuck you ParistonFuck you CheadleFuck you LeorioFuck you Mito
>>268325832chrollo bros...
>>268325875Why do you think he cheats?
>gings father was "lost at sea"So he is on the dark continent right?
>>268326003He tried going there for sure.Probably died, though.
What are the odds Togashi hasn't actually come up with Ging's ability?
>>268326061At this point, zero.
>>268326061I don't think he would have teased us showing that Ging can copy abilities if he didn't come up with his actual ability yet.
>>268326061I support the . >it’s a group agility Theory. It would tie in nicely with greed island and his game with Pariston when joining the group.Also would be interesting if the eccentirc loner has an ability based around friends
>>268319925> Expended his talentThis really isn't how people work except in a video game, but Greed Island does kind of tip a hand on how Togashi thinks.
>>268326195Would also tie to his backstory and motivation.It would be cool.
>>268326134Nice catch, anon. He had 20+ years to come up with Ging's ability, for fuck's sake.
>It took toriyama and miura dying for togashi to get off of his ass
>>268326216>This really isn't how people work except in a video gameYes it is. The brain only has so much plasticity.If you grow up training as a professional basketball player, you won't be able to later transition into being a soccer player no matter how fit you are.
My sweet Matie baby
>>268326428I cannot fathom how stinky that whore was (and still is).
>>268326299Anon, athletic endeavors are directly cross compatible. Someone who has already trained to a high degree will pick up something else much more quickly and start at a better baseline too. All the basic factors are there already. Also, there is such a thing as cross training in things that don't look like they help but greatly enhance what you are trying to do. One classic is sending football players to ballet class. There are also people who have drastically changed careers several times in their life. Shockingly, a person who can put massive effort in to one thing can do it for others. You, and Togashi, don't know what they are talking about. There is no pool of 'talent points' in you that get used up on the first thing you experience. What people FAIL TO UNDERSTAND is that children don't appreciate what they are going through and have the virtue of time on their side. If someone 20 years old is the best pianist on the planet, you can bet they spent 15 years getting to that level. That 20 year old will just have it attributed to talent because they are young, but slow practice adds up. This is the real reason you want to get kids in to things early. The dividends pay out and you have time on your side. No need for cram sessions or haste needed later in life to learn the same thing in a shorter period. But anyone who knows how to grind can just do that. It's only a matter of sectioning time out each day to do it. Which comes to the final piece. A lot of people don't understand time management in a real sense. Here's a clue. Devote 30 minutes a day to reading a book. 30 minutes tops. Just don't miss a single day. You will balk that such a small effort can do anything, but use some addition to count how much a week that is. Then a month. Then a year. By this time next year you could be that guy everyone knows who reads a countless number of books, and I assure you the other things you are capable of won't fall out of you like water either.
>>268320368looks boring to be honest. They should've asked togashi to explain all her powers
>>268326003>ging left whale island to become a hunter and possibly find his dad>he came back with gonGon is Ging's father reincarnation.
>>268326838The thread mechanic seems fine, if derivative of Hisoka's gum. There's plenty that the game DOESN'T seem to be pulling from for material
>>268326786>>268326299No but really, this is purely video game brainrot.You do not have an internal character sheet tracking individual skills. Athletics is a combination of several factors. Including many baseline ones and basic physicality. Here's a mental simulation test for people. Take a pro boxer. How easily could this person pick up another martial art? How do you picture it works internally? That he starts at 0 in the new style of fighting? The skill tracker tips up to 1 from 0? You'd be horrifically wrong. Real trained fighters actually can pick up other styles really fast once they are a certain level. Equally, the 0 int strongman is a delusion. People who have learned to put high effort in to things can do it again and mash that out. They often have other things they are good at or are just an all around better baseline to work with. Equally, someone like a high level professional dancer is actually very nice for coaches to work with. Their high athleticism translates and their inherent flexibility makes things easier.The real problem comes down to the body itself. Someone who hasn't been training their body has a long road ahead even if they are used to consistent effort in some arena of skill or the mind. It just.. plain takes a while to temper the body. There's hidden dangers too. Even if you use shortcuts to get swole, there's a lot of supporting structures of the body that have no such quick way around it. Look in to the 20th mile problem for hiking. You can't just pick that up even if you somehow get healthy overnight. But once you understand how to study and how to learn, you know it. It's just a thing you can do. People reinvent themselves all the time cause they know how. You got untill you start giving in to dementia to do that. What? Learn like you were a kid? Little nigga, you spent 12 years learning what someone should probably learn in less than half that. Even a year is a long time to prepare for something. People don't even know.
>>268326838>>268327067What I worry about is how little impact anything feels like it has. It all feels so weak. Like nothing is really happening. It's both stiff and unconvincing.
>>268326786>>268327182Also, captive audience effect is big. Kids are put in an exact copy of the prison system and not given a choice in anything, and if they don't do it right the first time they are told they have to do it AGAIN. You'd be shocked how great a motivator 'do it right the first time or ELSE' is. No really. Here's an example. If you want to become a great artist, do all your practices and work in pen. No matter what happens. No, no sketching then drawing the real drawing in pen. And when you do warmups do it in pen. You will be frightened by how fast your basic technical skills improve doing that. As an adult, you'll have to find ways to force the issue like that if you find you can't seem to treat it seriously otherwise. It's incredibly effective.If you want to learn something well and fast, leave no undo buttons and no escape clauses. If your creation comes out twisted and misbegotten, that's too bad. Try again on another one. No fixing what you broke.
>>268327385Oh and finish what you started. Yes. All of it. I don't care how awful it's comming out. Finish it. Finish it to the last stroke. Or the last note played. You will finish it and live every moment of your mistakes. Then you get to try again.
>>268327252Yeah for mvc3 clone it feels so slow and sloppy. On paper gon's jajaken is the perfect fighting game mechanic but it feels so weak. Hitting rock should feel like a major accomplishment but it looks less cooler than scissors and you only move 1 mm with it? No one is gonna use rock ever. And why the hell kurapika has a foot dive?
I don’t want any major plot twists about Gons character. Don’t want him to be some reincarnation, or Dons clone, or Dons Nen ability or some shit. I also don’t want his mom to be some DC creature or Ging (pregnancy stone).Gon is just the son of Ging, and their ancestor is Don
>>268320368Imagine if Togashi himself was the one to pick the roster for this game and he handpicked her to freshly put her character into viewers minds because he's got some big plans coming up for her.
>>268318954What happens if Knov dies with no post-mortem nen while a portal is active and Meurem is in the middle of it between two places. What will happen? We know that nen disappears after the nen user's death without post-mortem nen. No option makes sense other than the connection between the two spots will be severed and therefore Meurem will be split in half without actually being cut by the reality that his halves are in two seperate areas which are no longer connected in space by a nen construct portal.Now, why couldn't Knov make his ability with this same principle, where the nen disappates without needing to close the portal? Goreinu's gorillas are called off in a similar way when he gets knocked out, so it makes no sense for the portals to need to be closed to allow for scream to work.
>>268328199He will tell you that a nen portal will try to physically shut on someone at that point and that nen will keep it from closing. Some people are beyond salvation.
Hisoka is dead./thread
>>268328502Watching her beat up Killua today was such an unexpected surprise
>>268328502This game just spoiled the ending of the succession war, wtf?!?!
>>268328119Sorry but you will get your twists and like it.
>>268328195there's only two logical conclusions for machi. Either she jobs to hisoka or hisoka kills the rest of the troupe and she seethes till the end of time
>>268297414This won't end well
>>268297414heh no one got that gremlin machi
>>268329193I think it’s gonna be both. I know togashi likes to subvert but he’s already foreshadowed heavily certain things. Of course, setting up storylines doesn’t mean they’ll play out exactly as it seems. But based off veuthing.>Machi and Hisoka have fight at the r Hisoka kills Chrollo, they both survive the fight but Machi still chases Hisoka down (the same way Hisoka stalked down chrollo)Other obvious foreshadows things is like Leorio saving a close friend (many believe that friend will be Kurapika after this arc)
