You aren't actually reading wimpy BL for teenage girls with girly bishies and even girlier ukes that basically act and are drawn like girls with a limp dick do you?You are reading bara for real men with real men in it right?
not old enough
I prefer 3D men (both big and smol and average) for some reason, while 2D for girls. I wonder why, maybe because there's a smaller choice of artists?
That shit's gay I only read guro
>>268332278Any bara romance manga?I don't wanna read just sex, I wanna read some cute romance.
>>268332539>Not being a real man.Real men only think about fucking other real men up the butt. If you think about anything else you're not a real man.
I'm reading the fluffiest girliest yuri I can get my hands on. Come at me.
>>268332278if tagame only could draw some vanilla instead of rape mindbreak
>>268332604How do you find pants to contain your massive dick?
>>268332886Yes anon, this is a topic of real men.Go lick some pussy like a wimp basedboy while men are talking.
>>268332871Didn't he published some gay manga aimed for normies?
>>268332886No, we're straight as fuck minus the anon two posts above you.
>>268333556yeah
I'm not gay enough, at least bishounens and femboys are visually pleasing.
I'm watching manly Jazz animu.
>>268332352Are you bisexual or something?For me it's the opposite mostly because real men tend to be pretty gross.
>>268334512Wdym by grossI think it's cute
>>268332539that's my biggest issue with bara, it's just porn porn and porn and nothing else. That's why I struggle to even consider it a real art movement lika normal yaoi and yuri are. A good bl will have you be interested in the nfw aspect but also the character dynamics, the story, the development and if it's really good it's something you will remember for a long time. Meanwhile with bara all you'll get is a good wank and then you can move on and quickly forget about it because there's nothing more to it than that. It just porn and nothing else, and it's sad that none of the artists behind bara even attempt to make it be something more.
>>268334999Plot is for women.Real men need nothing more than sex with other real men.
>>268334999Usually this kind of genre feature a more realistic portrayal of men in term of design, especially middle aged men.it's a pity that most of the production is just fetish art (muscle, body hair, fat, age gap etc) and doesn't develop further.but nowadays japanese gay men read yaoi especially because of the stories, it's the only thing that attract both male and female readers
>>268332278sorry, i like twink and shota too much. but also can you really call this bara when they are waxed to fuck>>268334999that's because it's aimed at women, anon. a large percentage of guys just want instant sexual sexual gratification
>>268335800Instant and there actually being a plot are two different things though.Many josei smut stories have sex scenes in the first chapter but they still have a plot and character dynamics.
>>268335800Anyone enjoys a good story anon, it's not a female exclusive thing. The only reason why bara has no story is because it's very niche genere with few artists behind it and none of them are talented enough to tell an even half decent story. Just look at gengoroh tagame, one of the biggest bara artists out there and the one time he attempts to make a story ( >>268333685 ) instead of just porn without plot it fucking sucks and is generic as hell because the author clearly has no idea on how to tell a good story.
>>268332352you're the rarest specimen on this planet. Never die
>>268334999>real art movement lika normal yaoi and yuri arekek
>>268332278Holy based.
>>268332278Balloon bodies lol. >>268334999Does Golden Kamuy count as bara?
>>268332278I've never read either one before and I plan to check both kinds out someday.
>>268332278No
>>268332278>BLHas plot and good art>BaraHas no plot and ugly art
>>268334999It's more popular overseas (for obvious reasons) but it always makes me roll my eyes when people say it's where you read about 'the real gay experience' like you mean sex and nothing but sex? I'm a fujoshi but because I like to be fair I read some bara and it was pretty much nothing but porn.
>>268332278No, I only read shota BL.
>>268346217There are plenty of gay and bisexual guys who like BL. I'm one. The narrative that it only appeals to women is a fabrication that's promoted for political reasons. "But there are heteronormative gender roles and it's objectifying etc."Shut the fuck up, you're not even gay. The queer activist alphabet clowns who go on like that know fucking nothing about being gay. Most of them are femcels and straight catladies(male).Nothing wrong with the barabros though, they're alright.
No I don't like hairy muscle men. But like >>268346217 said it's hilarious that tumblrites worship bara and think fujos are highly problematic because they "fetishize gay men" and don't appreciate real gay art as if gay Japanese otaku are making only the most progressive works of art possible. And yeah, >>268347689 a lot of younger gay/bi guys in Japan like BL too, even though it's not like the real gay experience at all. Tl;dr fuck tumblr
>>268332278I'm a real man that loves BL and I think bara is fucking disgusting.
>>268347874I think men who enjoy gay shit in anime/manga are more inclined to enjoy BL than bara. But bara on its own has a higher percentage of men than BL. Yet tumblrites and their ilk think otherwise and say men only like bara because it's more realistic or some shit.
>>268332278It depends on the artists and the stories. Tagame includes too many rape/scat gross shit I can't bother to read his work, but the same is true for the most popular bl ranking on most purchase sites because the designs of the male leads are boring. It's all about finding a good balance.
>>268347874the real gay experience is grossreality is grossi don't want to read realistic straight romance manga either
>>268332278I like all types of guys, but bara artists almost always make them look weird or ugly.>>268347080My man.
>>268334450Not gay enough but at least jazzy enough.
>>268345973pic unrelated apparently
>>268334968>Wdym by grossThey burp and fart a lot.Real women tend to be more pleasant.
>>268339599>Balloon bodiesI don't think you've ever seen a real muscular male body.
>>268346217>'the real gay experience' like you mean sex and nothing but sex?Yes.
>>268348392You sure sound like a tasteless faggot.
>>268352341Based and bugchasingpilled.
>>268348392You sure sound based.
>>268352437>parroting seetheLmao
>>268347689My experience talking with them is that it's mostly like talking with shippers. As in, they're completely deluded and just experienced an alternate version of the story where all the elements you'd expect them to dislike didn't exist.Especially when they start to maintain that characters that literally had former female lovers and say things like “I don't care about your gender at all!” are “canon gay" and actually unironically beieve it and come with the strangest arguments to justify this.
>>268347689Barabros sure, but the ones on other boards who spam nothing but furry fetish shit are the most delusional manchild asshats I've ever met. I wouldn't usually bring up furries on /a/, but when it comes to looking at art by male JP artists you're basically five seconds from a face full of shark dick at all times. It's frustrating because they'll draw fanart of human characters and they're great at it, but you scroll down and turns out they only draw doujinshi for their cast of fat pool boy alligator lion hippos and the one muscle wolf. I get the feeling Japanese guys get conditioned to read kemono stuff just because there's more of it, and admittedly it seems to get more non-porn SoL entries than human stuff.
>>268332352Same. I think it's because on the whole I prefer my men rough and old and hairy, and anime as a medium has very very few rough, old, hairy men that don't feel like shaved twinks in old man cosplay. Conversely, anime girls are really pretty, but since they aren't real they don't come with the inherent disgust women cause me sexually. Or something like that. I reckon it's the same brain circuit that causes many faggy normalfag gays to idolize female pop stars.>>268332278This is is the reason most bara doesn't really do it for me. I think anime men just don't appeal to me at a fundamental, art style level. If I'm reading gay fiction I'd rather just read gay /lit/.
>>268352775The ones on the boards you're talking about are mostly concentrated in /trash/'s Bara threads and they're all thread-ruining schizos that not even other gays/furry barafags like. The sheer difference between the gay threads and gay kemono threads elsewhere like on /v/ or /a/ and the ones in that shithole is staggering.
>>2683522333D women bleed out of their pussies anon
