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Why is Mushoku Tensei so superior to other fantasy series?
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>>268860530
I still don't understand why this bottom of the barrel trash series got such a high quality adaptation.
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>>268860530
>cherry-picking
sasuga pedo tensei shilloid, your show went to shit after S1
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It’s a good show
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its not that difficult to make random fantasy thingies
whats difficult would be adding like realism to it in thinking how some magic system would actually impact the world, humans and ecosystems

like what do they eat
whats their tax policy
would a 1km tall hyper structure be a stable place to bring millions of tonnes of steel and glass and build the most expensive buildings on while its surrounded by mudhuts
how would a 1km long animal sustain anything about its body or how would it get energy
would you like to replace the prime real estate in a dense city with a lake, because it looks nice? Maybe some mentally retarded saudi prince spent trillions of oil money to do it to attract tourists.
would you like to live in a tree house with no plumbing or toilet and have everyone below witness as you shit on the balcony
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>>268860530
>bottom pic
Hmmm
Maybe I will watch your pedo show, I'm a sucker for kino scenery
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>>268860619
peak series got a peak adaption I don’t see a problem, here’s what’s what according to Re:Zeros author:

https://natalie.mu/comic/pp/mushokutensei
作品の内容から受けた影響もありますが、俺は作品の存在そのものに多大な影響を受けていますね。今でこそ累計のランキングは塗り替えられましたけど、それまでの「無職転生」は不動の1位で、抜けない位置にずっといてくれた。「リゼロ」は今おそらく5位、6位辺りにいるんですけど、これはアニメ化によるブーストがかかっているからなんです。そういう影響とは無関係に1位を獲り続けていた「無職転生」は、Web小説界のキングなんですよ。今後人気が出る作品は早い段階でアニメ化されていくだろうから、アニメ化に関係なくランキング1位になるということはまずないと思う。だからこれからどれだけ順位が変わっても、俺の中で「無職転生」が1位ということは変わらなくて。「無職転生」を超えていかなければならないというモチベーションでずっと作品を書いています。
"I did get influenced by the story, but the greatest influence I got is from the existence of the MT itself. The ranking's are now changed but, until then MT was immovably no 1 and was never really surpassed. Re-zero could be 5th or 6th place now, but that's because of the anime boost. MT that achieved 1st place without influence of anything like these is the king of WNs. Recently the works that are getting popular are getting adapted quickly but I think they will never be able to achieve 1st place without something like an anime adaptation. That's why, even if the rankings change going forward, MT will always be no 1. I wrote with the motivation of surpassing MT"
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>>268861044
Kek
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>>268860530
Everything in the bottom is generic too
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>>268861214
Never seen such autism and dedication in any anime before despite not focusing on actually explaining why they do what they do. For example certain perpetually young blue haired peepo make houses from Giant turtles to scare away potential predators that see it from afar
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>>268860644
Here are how towns look in Frieren
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imagine living in that demon town and there's a giant fucking sundial thing that makes it night in your house every day at 2 in the afternoon
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>>268860530
Why are you comparing only the towns to the entire set of different places of Mushoku, you baiting fuck? The town from that is generic too, even from that pic.
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>>268860530
>reddit Tensei
>superior
Lol
Lmao even
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>>268861348
Ald'ruhn, home
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>>268860530
>Another anti-MT bait thread
get some new material
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>>268863599
All the op does is say its superior to frieren with empirical evidence, what level of schizophrenia are you even in?
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>>268861348
birmingham... home...
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>>268860530
Go back to your containment thread
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>>268863712
kek
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>>268863898
Why aren't you in yours?
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>>268860530
Tried watching the later seasons and it's unwatchable
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>>268860530
>Star Wars bears
>Duna
>Oblivion
Yes very original
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Yuck can't have a walled city with a river, the most common layout for cities in history that's too generic.
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>>268860530
I'm sorry, but most of Pedophile Reincarnation's worldbuilding and every other aspect is inferior even to your generic isekai.
Now goon back to your containment place crearture of darkness.
Even the most generic concept of Dungeon Meshi mogs your garbage show entirely.
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>>268862848
>Preditors name it anime of the year.

would just kill myself at that point to be desudesu...
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>>268866714
Not defending Reddit Tensei but Dungeon Meshi is extremely unoriginal, both are low quality trash
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>>268866806
It doesn't invent sliced bread, but it puts an interesting twist on the generic tropes.
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>>268868398
You mean Dunegon Meshi or MT?
If you mean MT you'd be correct if you mean dungeon meshi not so much.
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>>268860530
Imagine being OP fag putting similar images instead of showing isekai worlds as they are because they are superior to pedo tensei.
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>>268861044
>writing buddy boosts your show and says it's good
What's wrong with that? The big isekai series all had a chatroom where they wrote together and they still hang out now.
Pretty sure Konosuba and MT's author went to his Emilia Day party.
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>>268860530
Sometimes simple is just better. Would anyone want to really live in that desert town where some giant castle could topple over onto their house? Wall city doesn't have that problem.
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>>268866714
Dungeon meshi is literally someone's D&D campaign but two of the players are autistic about tracking food. The DM then got creative once and they latched onto it and just kept running with it while the DM tries to get them to stick to the general plot he wrote.
I guess this is original if you've never played any TTRPGS?
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>>268871052
Yes, but that's unironically why it's great!

It's japanese bt also unapologethically western without the shit that makes modern western media shit.
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>>268860530
because you are probably a retard
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>cherry picking
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>>268862635
that's actually good work from the anime studio, you should see the lulz "assets" used in the manga
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>Anime is full of loli and pedo shit and most of the time anime fans are okay with it, defending it even.

>There is even an anime where the MC fingers an underage catgirl

>Enter Mushoku Tensei

>"Ah yeah the pedo groomer anime"

How is it so bad that even regular anime fans who have been in the medium for decades call it the "pedo isekai"?
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>>268871954
you would think the MC is a pedo and he grooms somebody in the show, preposterous amirite!
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>>268860530
>generic shit vs not generic shit
wow why does the thing that isn't generic look so good wtf?
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>FrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrierenFrieren
Why are mushokukeks obsessed with Frieren of all series? I always thought the rivalry would be between MT and Re;Zero because these are the only two Isekai were the author tried to make something half decent
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>>268872206
elf
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>>268860677
>it's a good series*
Read the books
or listen to the audiobook, it's on Nyaa and Cliff Kurt is a great narrator. He's released most of the books already.
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>>268872012
>Mushoku
>not generic
>look good

Go bait your mother you fucking troll
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>>268872206
>Reincarnated erectile dysfunction pedo
>half decent

trolling outside of /b/ is a reportable offense.
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>random consolewar thread kept alive via selfbumping
Do you at least get paid for this
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>>268872910
you just bumped it
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>>268860530
mushoku is hardly isekai by modern standard
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>>268872718
>generic
>an instant classic Isekai from the early 2010's which caused the explosion of the tensei genre
Secondary's and retards in shambles. The books caused this timeline and you just get to live in it.
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>>268862635
>Generic european medieval town
Impressive. Is this the Tolkien-tier world building Frierenfags talk about? Let me guess, it has some german name that is just a literal description about the town.
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>>268860530
>cherry picks
>bottom left looks exactly like the other generic towns
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>>268872955
>you just bumped it
Nope
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>>268873146
Oh yeah? I am bumping it from now on, despite not caring about this, unlucky for you I saw your reply.
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>>268860530
The world-building is mediocre, but the characters are far worse. Nobody would care about this slop if an average studio adapted it, just like Demon Slayer or JJK.
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>>268873008
>instant classic
Lol, those words exactly are written on your shill script?
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>>268860530
Wait isn't the bottom right 'isekai' town Amestris from FMA? I mean... it's more of a parallel world isn't it?
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>>268872785
Half decent compared to the average Isekaislop, MT is objectively shit but at least it has something others might find entertaining, and that alone puts it above 98% of all Isekai
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>>268873385
It's a codifier of tensei tropes. The boom in tensei content came right after the books were huge sellers in Japan. I was studying at Hiroshima Universty when Rifujin was popping off.
consider rope, nigger
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>>268873515
>I was studying at Hiroshima Universty when Rifujin was popping off
?
What the fuck is that supposed to mean to anyone? are you insane
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embarrassing cherry picking
Season 2 was a disatrous flop that got outsold by other isekais
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>>268873576
>"it's a classic"
>"shill"
>mention I was there, saw it being very popular ,and the causal effect it had, obviously, on the industry
>"Dude, your anecdotal evidence and historic knowledge doesn't matter. Take your pills."
Do zoomers really?
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>>268873750
It had no effect whatsoever, you donkey.
You are making shit up because people paid you to spew your drivel.
You can't just say you were there when jesus was revived and I swear its true and that means something.
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>>268873785
>inconvenient facts
pesky things
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MT lives rent free in the haters' minds
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>its another "mt invented isekai thread"
kill all youtuber zoomers it invnented nothing
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>>268873823
>its true because I said so! source? trust me!
Ok?
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>>268873836
>invented isekai
No, it popularized the Tensei genre.
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>>268873873
no
it didnt
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>I was at HARVARD when GOD told me Mushoku Tensei is the BEST anime ever made! don't believe me? pffff, incovenient facts are pesky, aren't they?
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>>268873896
It doesn't take a genius to notice the explosion of Tensei LN's and anime in the two years after the original run of MT.
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>>268866786
>outsourcing your opinion development process to reddit
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>>268873836
>>268873847
>>268873873
>>268873896
>Nooooooooo it invented isekai nooooooooooo

>Spirited away
>Digimon
>If I wanted to meme I'd say Alice in wonderland

That anon is homosexual and also... NOT FACTUAL!!!
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>>268874261
you're clearly illiterate, like the other faggot
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>>268874360
>insults me because that's his only way to cope that he can't diddle newborns like in his favorite anime Pedo tensei

neck yourself
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>>268873105
>Tolkien-tier world building Frierenfags talk about
>so-so no Frieren
I fucking hope that is not true and you are exagerating
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>>268874446
I never said it invented Isekai
I said it popularized (significantly) the Tensei (reincarnation) concept. You're illiterate.
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Hello fellpw adventrers, have you seen women who haven't hit the wall yet and are single? If they can read this they are too old.
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>>268874497
that's konosuba, though
Got so popular that people started thinking that all tenseis start with being ran over by a truck.
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>>268873873
both are capital offences to be fair
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>>268860530
MT is the grandfather of isekai
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>>268874597
...not
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>>268874632
yes actually
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>>268874853
Why are you replying to the OP? we all know you were in the thread shilling already.
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>>268874986
Who do you think you're talking to? Is he in the room with you now?
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>>268875009
Why would you admit to being a shill bot so easily?
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>>268875454
wrong anon, kid
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It's because it puts a bit of effort into worldbuilding which makes it look way better as opposed to the million other fantasy isekai shit that either rips game mechanics to fill their world or doesn't even bother so it can focus on haremshit and making le ebic protag look cool so the self inserters don't neck themselves for a few more months
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Rifujin is an incredible writer
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>>268875587
so good Mushoku Tensei doesn't have haremshit
NOT
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>>268875760
It's GOOD haremshit honestly never liked that plotpoint at all
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>MC wants slow life
>decides to train a bit for a baseline
>gets a tutor because he destroyed part of the house
>tutor becomes wife
>saves shota that's getting picked on
>grooms shota into wife
>tutors beast-like girl
>gets raped and turned into a husband
How can he keep getting away with it?

>>268875805
>spent all of LN 13 doting on his wives, sisters, and daughters after the hell in LN 12. Men only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting.
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>>268860530
MT is shit though, it just has a higher budget
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>>268860530
Why do we never see bastions in fantasy/isekai? Aren't fireballs and other magic as big a threat as cannons?
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>>268874597
Wrong, Fate/Stay Night is the grand father of modern isekai, being the pioneer of native isekai in the early 2000s
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>>268860530
Aren't these all taken from breath of the wild?
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>>268860619
Isn't it because this is literally why isekai became popular so I guess in order for the grandpappy of it all to stand out, it gets the most love?
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>>268876831
Because they sort of never existed in the east.
The only few times Chinese/Japanese got to siege one of these they failed miserably.
Also they exist beyond the regular scope of "Medieval fantasy".
But true I would love to see an Isekai that's actually set in Late Medieval/Renaissance period rather than High Middle Ages that we usually see.
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>>268873731
>Makes up all claims
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>>268877088
Japan only built two, of which only one was actually used (in the last battle of the Boshin War, 1869). I think it's seen as a more modern thing for them so they don't include it in fantasy.
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>>268873105
>it has some german name that is just a literal description about the town.
that's most town names outside of the US, but with their native language circa when the town was founded. There's so many British towns named "something something Avon" because Avon is the old Celtic word for river. That's also why half the fucking rivers are named Avon, the romans went up to the celts that were cooperating and asked them "What is this specific body of water called" and the dumb fucking natives said "river"
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>>268876831
>why

because the only time the japoids fought against these they got their micropenis showed back up their own ass and since it was embarassing it doesn't exist.
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>>268877354
>>268877624
I've seen it show up in Golden Kamuy, but that takes place in the 1900s and isn't fantasy/isekai so it doesn't count.
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>>268877354
>I think it's seen as a more modern thing for them so they don't include it in fantasy.
this, Japan basically missed most of the Renaissance and the entire Early Modern period due to its isolation and was only then catapulted straight into Industrial Revolution.
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>>268877804
which is why the retards are still mentally in the middle ages while only industrially caught up to us... this is why they could only be forced to band the ownership of real child porn only in 2014 with strong foreigner influence and with the threat that they don't get to hold the olympics.
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>>268874518
You say this as if the second season didn't end with him marrying a 49 year old who he initially met when she was 32. Or something close to that, they are exactly the same age mentally with his previous life memories factored in
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>>268878169
>you molest a child once and for some reason, everybody won't stop calling your a pedophile! - anon
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>>268873785
>It had no effect whatsoever, you donkey.
name ten isekai before mushoku tensei that involved a protagonist who reincarnated into another world and their driving motivation wasn't going home
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>>268878317
literally everyone he has ever touched sexually is older than him, how is he a pedophile. he's a hagchad if anything
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>>268862848
>CHADdittors CHADsei AOTY
I KNEEL
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>>268876831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf3zKKf1FNU
Millishion is the only city we know that has basically an air defense and can even control the weather around itself thanks to those magic towers creating a barrier.
Millishion also seems to be the only decent city where it's 'comparatively' safe to live when you consider other places. Even compared to Ars because who the fuck knows you might get kidnapped by some horny Asura noble or some certain pissed off magician might burn down half the city.
And finally Millishion is the only city where 10/10 arcs take place
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>>268878353
>name 10
>implying he can come up with one tensei that came out before the LN's were published
>>268878625
based Eris enjoyer
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>>268878470
>pedophile reaincarnates into X with his full identity, consciousness, memories and personality
>why is X being called a pedophile
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>>268878711
what children did he fuck
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>>268878711
>pedophile
lel
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>this is the intellect of randomly selected Mushoku fan on /a/
whew
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>>268878882
>character never fucks children
>call them a pedophile anyway
The only actual pedos in MT are the women, and there are a lot of them.
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>>268878723
nta, and I disagree with the position, but he had sex with Eris, thought that was basically her raping him, according to her own recounting of the details in the following day. He had tried to sleep with her on his 10th birthday, but both of them agreed that they needed to wait. Eris at this point, again by her own retelling at the end of book 6 when she left, had fallen in love with him and was offering herself at that time. Obviously she was the one in a position of power this whole time.
and
he had sex with Roxy in Volume 12, who has a loli body, shown and described as being around Norn's size, which is 11. Not that I agree with this logic of calling a child-sized petite person a child despite being the same age (mentally) as Rudy is.
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>>268876831
Oh and btw we kinda do
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>>268879042
oh, also, he didn't know she was as old as she was until he met her parents, so he was worshiping panties (he'd forgotten to return before she left) of an assumed 11 year old "goddess." Not that there's anything weird about it. It's all character growth.
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>>268879195
S3 will need more design materials compared to S2 considering we’d be visiting a lot of places again in a short span of time including Perugius’s sky castle, Asura kingdom and its capital, library labyrinth etc hopefully like S1 they’ll have the budget for it.
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Probably babbys first fully translated isekai is why.
It's really generic, and not in a good way.
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>>268879181
She's still older than him regardless. Same with Eris, and also same with Sylphie, she's a few months older than Rudy. People trying to claim he's a pedophile because his "mental age" is older than his physical body are the exact type of disingenuous faggots who would call you a pedo for liking a 1000 year old loli vampire girl.
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>>268879104
the roofs blocking the bug church-style windows bother me, but at least it's not le korean memecastle, it's not too awful overal
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>>268879420
As proven by this thread even Frieren which is supposed to be THE fantasy series does not have even an ounce of depth when it comes to worldbuilding as opposed to Mushoku Tensei.
Sad state of affairs when people outright lie on the internet sad indeed.
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>>268879467
Windows aren't just for looking out of, and those windows all have awnings over them. They're for cooling.
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>>268879467
*big
> it's not too awful overal
eh, bad expression, I mean that in approving meaning - it's decent look, for random fantasy/medieval-like town/castle rendition
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>>268879104
>>268879195
not in the slightest, these are all typical Medieval walls, there are no bastions whatsoever nor other fortification elements
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>>268879490
I never watched/read Frieren, while I've read but not watched MT.
That's how milquetoast I see MT. I read the whole thing but can't even be bothered to watch the adaptation.
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>>268879512
nah, this is justa a case of roof added next to a block of the tower model that wasn't supposed to have roof next to it.

Such stuff would happen in organically growing structures too (but it's 100% just mistake here), but then the window would be filled.
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>>268879593
That would be an outright lie my good man. Lets test you, can you tell me what happens at the end of Millis arc bonus story with Therese?
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>>268879181
He didn't know her exact age, but he knew she was an adult of a non-human species.
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>>268860619
>barrel trash series
it's peak isekai and peak harem
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>>268879707
It was very simple thing to answer btw so you didn't read MT yet lied on the internet typical very typical indeed. When will MT detractors learn how to Kneel?
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>>268878668
God I love how cool this looks. They should make a game.
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>>268879777
kek utterly btfo
>and those trips of trvth
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>>268879777
checked
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>>268879104
>>268879195
Those walls are the opposite of what would have been built to stand up to canons.
>tall
>skinny
>masonry
All death sentences for bombardment.
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>>268879104
Also I like how much they underestimate the number of chimneys that would be on those roofs IRL.

(Not bashing, already said this is actually doing decently considered to the cluelessnes in most manga/anime, this bit is a hard mode thing)
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>>268879897
I thought you meant like medieval fortifications, gunpoweder is not a thing in MT.
Usually when you have magic involved as we see in one of the arcs where you have a war with a mage battalion is assaulting the city you counter by having your own trained magicians.
Or don't let them get near the city at all.

Some cities might have magic circles inscribed with barrier magic but nothing like what Millis has with a barrier that can even influence the weather and can act anti air.
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>>268879897
MT doesn't have cannons because Magic.
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>>268860530
It appeals to really, really pathetic people who are willing to spend their welfare checks on it, and be extremely vocal about their love of the series because it panders to their sexual fetishes and glorifies their mentality ill behavior.

It's quite literally a master class in manipulating retards by pandering to them on multiple fronts.
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>>268879897
well, we don't know how far and how tall they are. Maybe they are like 10m strong.
But generally it has the problem of massively overestimating how tall would fortress walls be (the aspect ratio), if those walls are really supposed to be extreemly far and extremely tall. And the towers are too thin compared to the height.
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>>268879777
You're already kneeling and toughing the author's asshole. I will not be joining you, thanks.

[spoilers] !Akemi.
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>>268880012
Not yet but we're getting there...we're getting there indeed....future is looking bright we're gonna have break blade mechas with the advancement of magitech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RNIHv1XA3U
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>>268880113
oh no this retard can't even spoiler correctly
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>>268879707
>>268879777
>You don't remember every story beat from something you read a decade ago? That you said was mediocre.
I don't even remember the characters names.

Only thing I really remember is when he got imprisoned and was naked with the traitor guy who would eventually release the plaguerat that would get Roxy killed so Rudy literally invented time magic to change it.

I guess the dollfag was ok too.

Also the discussions about it being a prequel to the "real" story. Was that ever written?
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>>268879777
>moshi moshi, based department?
>we got him
So much is left out of the show.
>The whole background of Paul, Lilia, and Zenith
>Ghislaine's teleportation
>All of the Eris content secondaries don't get to see because they're going to drop it all in Season 3, like the Fitz stuff
>Telling the Death God his food tastes like shit
>Zenith's sister casually helping them at the Port to secure passage
>Sara getting BTFO'd by a (very nice) whore
>the entire Begaritt continent travel and world-building
Just things from the first 12 novels.
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>>268880219
Nice, you looked up the wiki cool.
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>>268880264
my fucking sides
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>>268879777
>I love the character development
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>>268880253
>>Sara getting BTFO'd by a (very nice) whore
I got a feeling this will at least be adapted in S3 when Sara shows back up
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>>268880264
Actually wait he didn't even look up the wiki because what the heck
>naked with the traitor guy who would eventually release the plaguerat
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>>268880181
Typing from my phone and can't Ctrl+s.
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>>268880353
skill issue
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>>268880253
>the entire Begaritt continent travel and world-building
While I appreciated the Hydra battle skipping begaritt continent adventures was absolutely criminal so much worldbuilding kept being skipped.
Still turned out decently when you consider the above.
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>>268880353
>phonepeasant
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>>268880264
>>268880327
uh oh, did the anime not get that far? Because if you actually read it, even though I'm only half remembering you would understand the gist of what I was describing.
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>>268874597
Excuse me?
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>>268880521
What I understood is that you were first of all not reading the LN at all, you were reading a machine translated WN.
Second of all someone made a fan vid of the part you're describing and it has almost 3 million views that's how much people are looking forward to that point. The part which you basically don't remember.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMhZNseGtAY
If 3 million people remember it after reading it, how come you can't?
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>>268880521
No, Geese isn't involved with Roxy's assassination at all.
Rudy does it on orders from Hitogami
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>>268880584
>If 3 million people remember it after reading it, how come you can't?
Because I'm an old man who read it a decade ago
>>268880600
What did he do to backstab Rudy then? I remember it being really important that he did.
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>>268879635
I'm sorry, what are you trying to say here?
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>>268860530
>all the work and the anime still flops
damn shame
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>>268880825
>highest rated anime of the season
you need to bait harder, have a (you)
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>>268880825
You know S3 was announced immediately right?
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Mushoku tensei is one of the worst anime ever created. And all of its fans are dumbasses who never watched a decent anime to begin with. Isekai harem are a plague upon the medium and they'll only get more popular because of slop like this.
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>flops
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>>268880825
Season 2 was really sloppy as an adaptation but was still decently popular. I feel like by the time MT reached the Labyrinth with the Hydra fight, it should've cemented itself as an isekai anime classic, but the anime couldn't deliver.
Animation and directing was bad, and Hydra is CGI. Looks like it still sold some cash to the studio though, so a Season 3 was instantly confirmed
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>268880888
>wha wha wha, why people won't watch my favourite anime and some critically acclaimed isekai story gets a high budget instead, it's not fair
don't make me poke your eye out
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>>268880973
Rudy, roxy, and eris are all very shit characters. Rudy being one of the most annoying mother fuckers put to animation.
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>268881006
Lara is best though and mogs all 3 of her mothers
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I could forgive mushoku tensei for being what it is. But it would have to stop being a isekai about a 30 year old man being in a kids body. It makes it creepy when he's trying to bang other kids and is the main reason I dropped the show.
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I would've actually liked this show if not for the stupid sex jokes being thrown around every episode, not to mention the otaku shit.
Should've been just a fantasy anime rather than isekai.
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>>268880406
BD's are gonna be a treat
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>>268881061
Lol you fans of this show are all just a buncha perverts. Maybe one day you'll find a anime that manages to be good without making you get hard for kids.
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>268881128
>268881133
>he didn't even watch it
MT not being an isekai could be an argument in the first season since Rudy being from another world didn't actually have that much of an outside impact until last few episodes, it was mostly personal for Rudy's development

2nd season just completely breaks apart without it though
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>>268880972
S3 is what most people have been waiting for a long time so there's absolutely no way they'll drop the ball there, also considering how many action sequences there are adaption wise it'll be on the easier side to adapt as opposed to non-stop SOL in the LN with a lot of text in S2.
I hope they can animate Magmo's sky castle and the interior with a more alien vibe which is intended as opposed to say Shirotaka's drawings that have the standard gothic castle vibe.
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>>268881128
funny how the thing you describe is literally how character development works
and funny that you described something that happens
>shocking truth!
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>>268861044
>>268879741
>peak
Yeah peak shit maybe. Re-zero mogs.
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>>268881249
So why should I watch past season 1 if the show immediately stops being good?
None of the characters are particularly interesting and mainly just there to be Rudy's cum slut trophies.
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>>268881249
>not being an isekai could be an argument
No. There is no argument to be made that it's not an isekai.
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>>268881331
Show never stops being good ever.
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>>268860677
the mc having erectile dysfunction was literally a plot point.
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>>268881364
And it was a great arc
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>>268881306
Yea but the main character is a isekai harem protagonist. They are all characters just made to be self insert for the viewer. So if you don't like him there's no point in watching the show.
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>>268881387
This, I also preferred it to academy, though Sylphie schizo might go nuclear about it
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>>268860530
you are just easily amused retard anon.
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>>268870112
Rikarisu has a shit ton of stones embedded in the wall of the crater that light up at night and were put there because Demon Empress Kishirika Kishirisu wanted them to shine on her castle (but it also provides enough light to walk around the city at night). The castle has also been standing there for thousands of years, so if it's able to stand like that for that long, then probably not worth worrying about.

>>268872206
It's Frierenfags obsessed with MT. More specifically the newfags that have only seen like less than 20 different series, with the bulk of it probably being shounen action. It's even funnier when you see this webm >>268879777
>>268876940
>MT
>WN started in 2012, ended in 2015
>BoTW
>released 2017
???
>>268880972
There was realistically no way they were going to animate a wholeass fight with a 9-headed monster vs 5 people. That said, though, people fucking loved the hydra fight, and a bunch of people didn't even notice it was CGI at first, partially because it wasn't CGI the whole fight (there were plenty of 2D shots of it), and was actually blended in well enough with everything else. Hell, other studios using CGI should be taking notes, because if CGI normally looked like that instead of whatever that garbage Maou Gakuin was doing last season, then there'd be less complaints about using it.
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>>268881357
Well we've come to an impass then. I think the shows shit and you think it's good. Have fun with your little power fantasy isekai. You people get fed a hundred of them every season.
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>>268881403
I'm a woman and I self insert as Sylphy
but your point is invalid
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>>268881331
Season two follows Rudeus coping with the hardship from season one. It's not bad, it's just different, and a lot of people can't accept the trauma/psychological impact being his driving plot device. It's good, but a lot of truncated content because they had to get to the end of book 12 even if it meant cutting a lot of healthy content.

Honestly though, read the books (or listen to the audiobooks, they're on nyaa.)
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>>268881387
For people who fantasize about them themselves getting erectile dysfunction and getting c u c k e d, maybe.
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>>268881482
>I'm a wo-

No you're not.
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>>268881478
It's simply your taste that's shit. We've been over this a million times. MT absolutely never stops being good which is why it's praised so much even when it came to S2 and you will never hear the end of it when S3 comes out.
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>>268881482
>self inserts as a trophy for the Mc
That's sad af
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>>268881560
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>>268860530
Mushoku Tensei is made worse by the fact that it's an Isekai.
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>>268881441
They did a very good job with the hydra I still remember how doomposters were coping non-stop that episode.
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>>268881364
People still don't understand that the erectile dysfunction was an excuse for Rudeus to build a up a romantic relationship without it being purely sexual like his other one. The author literally talks on an interview on how he wanted sex to be portrayed as both a sacred thing and a pleasure thing and that Rudeus at the beginning views sex as purely pleasure and the Fitz and Erectile dysfunction was making Rudeus view sex and relationships are something sacred.
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>>268881494
I'd rather clown on you people for having shit taste in anime than ever give your show another chance. You bring endless entertainment than Rudy and gang could ever provide.
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>>268881619
what a sad life you live
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>>268881619
The only one being clowned on the entire thread is you. First you pretended to have read MT then when it didn't work moved on to nitpick about something but this doesn't work with MT because it simply never drops the ball.
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>>268881660
>says the person who has Rudy as a role model
Lol. That character should die.
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>>268881599
The grave scene in the last ep was also decent although it indeed could've been even better they just didn't have enough time to flesh out some things overall a solid 9/10
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>>268881662
I bet you also like moonlight waltz. Makes me sick
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>>268880825
>Better selling than season 1
>More views than season 1
>Highest rated anime episode of all time on imdb
>Highly scored season overall
>Crossovers everywhere performing well
>LN sales the highest they've ever been in 2023, best in all of Kodakawa.
>Nominated as anime of the year, after season 1 carried the awards on nearly every platform.

>"Flopped because I didn't watch it"
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>>268881767
this scene was brutal, I didn’t think they’d animate that far
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>>268881789
damn, those inconvenient facts again
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>>268881789
Normals having terrible taste in anime? What else is new
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>>268881789
You forgot that its also the most pirated show and novel on Nyaa, the most watched anime on 9anime and toro, and the most reviewed anime on patreon.
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>>268881846
nta, but just read through volume 12 and this was the best adapted part of the season.
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Only Sylphie is good, she should be in a better series honestly
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Eris was great. I just look forward to animation of the conflict when she returns.
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>>268881930
She should be on a stick where she belongs
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>>268881930
that's the secret definition of isekai genre you know
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>>268881930
There's no good isekai characters
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>>268881789
how do we stop MT supremacy? Will doomposters get their way in S3?
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>>268881914
I’m just sad how begaritt adventures couldn’t make it in since they skipped the entire worlbuilding sequences of the desert peepo in vol 11 and how they usually dealt with the local fauna(including succubuses, sand worms/LISAN AL GAIB etc), how they live in Begaritt and so on.
This was a thing in S1 too actually where they kinda skipped explaining about the countries Rudeus and co would visit.
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>>268882110
Most people who have good taste stopped watching past season one. But what do you know fans of this show kept consuming because they are braindead manchildren just like rudy.
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>>268882110
>Will doomposters get their way in S3?
they either join the 41% or they are going to like MT
there's no other way, its supremacy is already cemented, now we're waiting whether or not it will be crowned an anime of the decade
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>>268882293
>passing Rudy's cum between their pussies
hot as fuck
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>>268882053
Pretty much every single character in MT is a good character that has their own thing going for them which is the reason their feel real, like after reading MT I've started wishing that other secondary characters had as much characterization/character interactions and in general felt as real, minus pic related cat and dog. Cat and dog SUCK
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I haven't read or watched this isekai shit, but is all this popularity because the MC gets married and has children from his harem? How little do those who eat slop need
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>>268882337
>we will never get the animated bathing scenes with Norn, Aisha, and the threesome from volume 12
Why even go on
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>>268882384
secondary characters in other anime series or otherwise*
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>>268882297
Nice cope
>"This anime is so bad it flopped!!! The animation became worse and it flopped!!!"
>Season 2 sells so well that it hard carried the production company's revenues in 2024
>Season 2 makes the series even more popular
>"Wow! Normalfags have such bad taste! I have le superior taste and I stopped watching this!!"
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>>268872003
In reality he's a victim of grooming.
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>>268882395
It's popular because it's not a simple power fantasy where MC becomes absurdly powerful over the course of minutes or a few months. Well-paced development, compelling characters, and an engaging play between main and side-plots.
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>>268882460
to be fair, he was grooming Sylphie and his dad put a stop to that because it was destructive to both of them.
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>>268882425
I don't need to cope when I see I dodged a bullet of consuming more isekai harem garbage. If I wanted to watch a good anime I would and that's why I dropped mushoku tensei. I can still see the appeal of such shows however. People just want to coom.
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>>268882543
You've been chimping out about Mushoku Tensei for a very long time now. But rather than dodging a bullet it feels as though you're chimping out how so many people like MT and are trying to gaslight yourself that it's bad.
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>>268882608
You people are such idiots. Constantly defending this trash. But of course it's a popular show I should know better than to not join the masses and suck Rudy off like the rest of you.
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Definitely, even during the hydra fight to be honest in the anime they made it seem like Rudy wasn't paying attention but that wasn't really the case so I didn't like that either.
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>>268882543
No, I wanted to see an epic fantasy dungeon-delving and a Hydra monster-boss fight in anime. Sad that Bind couldn't deliver though
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>>268882668
idk about others but I like MT as a whole it’s good precisely because it has good characters, worldbuilding, action sequences, adventures and including of course the MC it’s the whole package that makes it good and the reason it gets so much praise not because of a character or two.
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>>268882689
Sure you did. That's why you picked this series up and not because you're just a typical isekai brainlet.
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>>268882744
>every character being trash is ok because the show looks nice
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>>268882757
Yeah? The numbers of quality fantasy anime is really scarce, no matter how much you seethe and fake being uppity, you don't even have any power to do something about it
The best you can do is be a laughingstock at 4chin
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>>268882757
you’re being very schizo about this anon like I said gaslighting yourself is not good for health
There are people with shit taste that exist everywhere it’s not something to be embarassed about.
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>>268882474
Rudeus is no better and in some aspects worse than other shitsekai characters, he was reborn from a fat piece of disgusting shit into a magical world in a family where magic is available and with the ability to study it from infancy, he is much more beautiful than himself from the real world, he is tall, etc. He gets rid of his social anxiety for 1 episode He's just a shitty character who instantly gets what he wants, he doesn't care about his mother and father, he doesn't consider them relatives, he doesn't care about loyalty to his wife, he doesn't change in any way. MTfags are the most backward and incomprehensible people, they are ready to defend this shit without accepting criticism
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>>268882812
I can’t really name a particularly bad character in MT if you asked me to. Maybe Tallhand who doesn’t bring much to the table.
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>>268882674
He really kind of wasn't though. In the book he was watching the body and saw it doing something weird. He wasn't sure what it was trying to do. He didn't see the head coming straight down at him.
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>>268882909
i liked his side story at the end of the series
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>pedophile tensei
Stopped reading there
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>>268882852
That’s pretty easy to debate let’s start shall we
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx4tY36plq4
*ahem*
So first of all:
1) It was his own fault for getting into a delinquent shithole school. Had he not slacked off for the entirety of his middle school maybe he could apply for a decent school.
2) Despite getting into such a shithole and seeing what kind of people and what circumstances he found himself in, he still decided to act tough and all high and mighty despite not having the balls to fight, the skills to fight, or even the balls to negotiate skillfully.
He did something very unreasonable for his circumstances and got what was coming for him. You don't just piss off the top guy at school the Banchou for almost no reason. It's illogical but being so happy go lucky he didn't know that and ironically the same happened in isekai when he let certain people die in Rikarisu with again that happy go lucky attitude without understanding in what kind of circumstances they were in which is a direct parallel to how he was acting in the past.

Anyway after getting humiliated by the banchou and after becoming a shut in(he couldn’t get into a decent school, that said his parents didn’t do much on that front either) he began wasting time with various things and when you have a lot of time on your hands you begin to get into degenerate shit as well(that’s how I found anime cause I was also neeeting around).
In case of fatdeus due to having all the time in the world he became more decadent and decadent. That’s how most creepy otaku are born that aspect was very realistic I believe.
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>>268882852
>he doesn't care about loyalty to his wife
tell me you didn't watch or read it without telling me you didn't watch or read it.
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>>268882983
Cont:

If he had studied and got into a normal highschool instead of a delinquent school things would be different.
If he had not pissed off the school banchou things would’ve been different.
Had he not become a shut in things would’ve been different.
Had he not lost his last friend( which he remembers during Paul reunion arc) things would’ve been different.
Had he attended his family funeral(the siblings might’ve given him part of the inheritance instead of catching him red handed fapping to loli porn) things wouldn’t have ended up with him having no fortune and ending up homeless.

What MT simply showed was that if you miss so many opportunities to fix your life you’re gonna get checkmated one day.

If you manage to get that second chance don’t waste it.
Care for your family
Care for your children.
Raise your children and set them on the right path to ensure their success. Marry them off to influential people if need be for the sake of your House.
Connections>Nakama power
Not everyone you meet you have to make into a nakama but connections are important they’re directly connected to getting you wealth and into an influential position being alone no matter how powerful doesn’t work in human society as no matter how powerful Oldeus got he would get stomped. And he did eventually fail.

Connections>cultivation

And a bunch of other things but MT at the end of the day is simply an entertaining story as it’s meant to be without author trying to preach anything.

btw we had this argument like 1000 times in different threads
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>>268882825
Lol maybe if you don't watch anime in general you'd find this to be something special. I'm really not surprised to find people like you being fans of this show.
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>>268883027
Well like we discovered in this thread the most hyped up fantasy anime frieren could not hold a candle to MT in terms of being deep and profound I think that anon you need to start reading MT right now!
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>>268883075
>be a good person
So fucking deep and profound I'd better waste my time watching mushoku shitsei past season one.
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>>268860530
looks as generic
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>>268883116
It’s not about being a good person it’s about being a good story with a solid everything from plot to characters to worldbuilding to everything. Your crusade against MT is simply not going to work after 2 seasons have been adapted into an anime ya know
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>>268883027
Why are you putting words to my mouth? The best fantasy anime people are fellating right now is Frieren and Dungeon Meshi, and I watched both of them too
But, I find Frieren kinda boring, and Dungeon Meshi was decent while somewhat lacking
As a series, MT is better than those. MT is pretty good even if it ain't flawless
What do you recommend then? Though I doubt it'd be something I haven't watched yet lol
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>>268882852
you sound just like this guy seething with jealousy
I recommend therapy and self improvement
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>>268879741
Just proves that the isekai and the harem genre are absolutely trash, tasteless "male" powerfantasies
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>>268883159
I'm not making a crusade I'm simply trying to say why I think the shows shit. Garbage characters, boring world, nothing to even want to see happen. It's complete garbage and you have shit taste in anime.
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>>268873008
So MT is to blame for this cancerous isekai genre that refuses to die?
Now I hate it even more
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>>268882302
S3 should be crowned as one I just hope they find more animators and not just Qkawa will have to be burdened for the action scenes since there WILL be a lot this time
>eris vs saints
>eris vs auber
>eris vs nina vs isolde
>eris vs nina for king rank
>linia vs pursena
>atofe sneak attacks
>Rudy vs Moore
>Perugius to the rescue
>oldeus flashback
>rudy vs orsted
>eris vs orsted
>library labyrinth
>auber road ambush
>auber city ambush
>reida vs orsted
>auber vs eris, ghislaine and rudy
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>>268883174
I haven't seen either of those because they looked like shit. But I recommend slayers, hare and guu, basilisk, and Jormungand.
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>>268882297
Anon, you gotta tell me, what's it like being this wrong and having taste this shit? I'll never know, but I'd really like to know how you feel right now.
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>>268883273
Like I said gaslighting yourself is not good for health. Just admit you have shit taste since you’re in the minority here on /a/ obviously and let’s just call it a day
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>>268883358
Not "isekai" genre, the tensei theme.
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>>268874597
No, that's El Hazard
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>>268860530
It's a trash powerfantasy for seanegros chinks and neets. Harem shit with zero relevant male characters otherwise the losers reading it would feel threatened. Pathetic.
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>>268883402
>>268883422
Lmao you gonna cry some more Rudy simps? Why don't you go talk to your dad about people saying your show sucks.
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>>268883397
Jormungand is not a fantasy anime and sure as hell don’t prefer it to MT. It’s not even half as good as this show.
Basilisk I’ve watched it when I was a kid it has decent action from what I remember but I wouldn’t put it anywhere near MT.
Slayers is classic of course and I don’t dislike it but Slayers being better than MT is just not true. Last one I haven’t watched.
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>>268883506
You’re the only one helping to bump this thread why would we be crying? We’re happy you’re engaging with us and showcasing what a typical MT detractor looks like.
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>>268883427
I couldn't care less, all that garbage share the same themes, tone and aesthetics, it's all the same shit
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>>268883509
I wasn't even trying to talk about just fantasy anime. I was recommending shows that I actually like watching. Which unlike mushoku tensei are pleasant experiences.
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>>268882983
>>268883025
That is, he was born into a rich family and lost everything because of his backwardness, died, was reborn again in a rich family with his consciousness of a 34-year-old in a fantasy world, magic, all nonsense, got wives thanks to his new body, literally became Jews with connections and ? It's shitty, it's much worse, I don't want to sympathize with the faggots who had everything good from the beginning and who lost everything and got everything again. The point of the series is not to be retarded having been born into a rich family? I have to feel sorry for drug addicts for their addiction and idiocy, this is the most normal series, it's like some kind of stupid and fake story with a shitty K POP group that harmed itself for the sake of PR. What's the point? All my claims from the first post remain valid
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>>268883583
You do care especially since it's quite family oriented show.
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>>268883580
Lol you think any of this matters? Your show is bad that's all their is to it. I've said why I think it's bad and you guys said why it's good. There's never going to be a outcome to this conversation that changes anybodies mind.
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>>268883591
they're nowhere near as good as MT and like I said I've watched 3 of what you recommended, coco is a cool lady and all but really friggin Jormungand? Better than MT are you kidding? If you had said black lagoon maybe just maybe it would've added some credibility but you're obviously joking
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>>268876831
There's this.
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>>268883617
Lol this trash family oriented. Maybe if your family also had terrible taste in anime.
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>>268883488
>Harem shit with zero relevant male characters
Except all the other relevant male characters speedwatcher/reader
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>>268883010
Say you're a cuck who let two other guys fuck your own wife
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>>268883662
I've only watched the first season of MT so it's all I have to go on. Again I dropped it because I could tell that as soon as season two started it was gonna be just typical isekai garbage. That's all their is to it. I just finished watching slayers and it's movies which puts it above MT any day of the week.
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>>268883390
>reida vs orsted
This one is short and probably won't need q kawa since it's just Orsted walking towards Reida while she's fighting for her life. If anything, get the TP2 animator since it could probably be done in a way to mirror Ruijerd vs Orsted, and the donut making too.
>atofe sneak attacks
>Rudy vs Moore
I don't think anything in the Atofe fight would be fitting for q kawa, so I'd say give that to TP2 animator as well. Linia vs Pursena and the North God swordsman fights might be more fitting for q kawa.
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>>268880295
Yes?
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>>268883728
kek the detractors are losing plot now, there are actually more male characters in MT compared to females.
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>>268883774
That's your choice and your claim ofc but I'll laugh any time someone claims those 3 are better than MT.
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>>268881478
>Have fun with your little power fantasy isekai.
Why are you acting like you're above this argument? You came into a thread about this show to bitch about this show.
Stop seething, it's not funny anymore, I'm just concerned.
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>>268880755
He made Rudy kill his wife? He told Rudy to go into the basement, which let the crystal rat that bit Roxy out. After Rudy spread his suffering across the world for a few years, he invented time travel (probably via gravity magic) to make his past self fuck Hitogami.
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>>268883833
Of course you would. You are retarded and like mushoku shitsei because you just wanna fuck roxy or something.
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>>268883390
As long as they nail the main Orsted fight I’ll be fine with anything tbqh
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>>268883858
He’s getting btfo and realizing it’s not his safe space here hence the chimpout
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>>268883858
Because I actually have decent taste I'd consider in anime and I know it because I hate harem isekais.
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>>268883774
You don't really have good eye for anything at all, anon. My impression and opinion of you just plummeted down. You keep being uppity, but I could tell you're retarded in an instant, that's all there is to it
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>>268883929
Moms still a vegetable Rudy lmao
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>>268860530
Because it has Eris, the best waifu.
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>>268883936
>I have decent taste
Gaslighting yourself again? Tsk tsk tsk. Man you’re easy to read. Like I said being mad that you have shit taste isn’t embarrassing, you’re on /a/ and here you’re in the minority no need to chimp out like this
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>>268881599
I remember a thread a while ago posting a fight scene from a Madoka movie and how it was impossible to follow the action and was just a mess of shit happening.
I think of that when I look at this fight scene and note how well you can follow the action and how they always keep note of the position of the characters in the battle. I know the 180 rule is a basic part of cinematography, but when you see a fast frantic action scene ignore it, it makes you appreciate scenes that follow it more.
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>>268883945
Bitch I watch dozens of anime. Probably thousands by now I have a good eye. And my eyes told me as soon as Rudy got teleported that he would just go on to have some typical story about redemption, hope, and character growth that we've seen hundreds of times already. At least without the Mc trying to fuck underage girls.
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>>268883936
You didn't answer why you would come into this thread while hating harem isekais. Which by the way, we're 2 seasons, "4 seasons really" into the show and we just now got the multiple wives. So obviously that's not the main draw here.
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>>268883792
yeah there's nine relevant female characters, outside of Rudy's blood related family members and Lilia

>Roxy
>Sylphie
>Eris
>Ghislaine
>Elinalise
>Ariel
>Kishirika
>Atofe
>Nanahoshi

Everyone else is barely above a minor character in the main story. Even Nina, Sara, Linia and Pursena are just supporting characters.

>>268884046
>Bitch I watch dozens of anime.
DOZENS
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>>268883994
Almost all scenes that involve action are well animated. Very few if at all in MT that I would say have bad action animation.
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>>268883880
>You are retarded and like mushoku shitsei because you just wanna fuck roxy or something
The absolute state of nu/a/. Finding the main female character attractive is now considered a point against a show.
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>>268884046
>dozens
outta here newfag tourist and he keeps bitching about MT lol
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>>268884046
They also have slaves and murder in this world, why are you not complaining about that if your problem is being morally outraged?
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>>268883981
Lmao. Here have a ghlisene for making me laugh so hard.
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>>268883792
I'm pretty sure there's actually more female characters, but it doesn't feel that way because the male characters are actually way more interesting (also because all of the Seven Great Powers are male too). Anyone saying there's "zero relevant male characters" like >>268883488 clearly either didn't watch/read at all, or got hard filtered early on.
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>>268884106
Calling me the newfag when he's a mushoku shitsei fanboy
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When did /a/ became so infested with normalfags? Fifteen years ago, you wouldn't be seeing any of this shit even ironically.
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I want to fill Sylphie's uterus to the brim with my semen
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>>268884108
Who cares about irrelvent side characters dying or being enslaved? It's not like the Mc can do anything about that I mean he's just a regular wizard guy.
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>>268884161
Nta but wouldn't the fact that the supporting male cast is much more interesting than any of the female characters despite the story being centered around the main character's relationship with his wives be a point against the show?
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>>268884214
Because anime like this are popular with normals. Who need to learn what a good show is. Which is really just sad when it's something this bad.
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>>268860530
I feel genuinely bad for people that cant enjoy Mushoku Tensei.
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Don't try to prove something to these retarded MTfags, they will take care of their shitty isekai and try to separate it from the trash can filled with other isekai shit.
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>>268884289
I hate to break it to you, anon, but you're the "normal" here. Hell, you're too afraid to say normalfag. But it's okay, you being the normalfag cancer that you are, are what the studios want to appeal to, so there are DOZENS more anime for you to watch.
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One single shitposter desperately hating Jobless Reincarnation. How droll.
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>>268860530
The world building it as is mediocre.
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>>268884358
>no you are the normal
Sure thing buddy. Now run along and enjoy your isekai harem slop #453287
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>>268884423
You should go back first, tourist
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>>268884289
Nigger I'm talking about you.
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>>268884423
It's #1, actually, you little BITCH
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>>268884467
Me a tourist? I've been here for nearly 2 decades now. Anyway go masterbate to Eris butt or something loser.
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What's the point of this bait thread?
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>>268884231
She's a barren wasteland mate. Rudeus only got lucky twice with her.
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>>268884247
>Who cares about irrelvent side characters dying or being enslaved? It's not like the Mc can do anything about that I mean he's just a regular wizard guy.
But, I thought you said that this show was a self insert power Fantasy?
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>>268884518
>go masterbate to Eris butt or something
Gladly
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>>268884518
Nice larp, faggot. You found out about this site a month ago
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>>268883979
based and Mad-Dog-pilled
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>>268884361
It's nothing new at this point. People can bitch all they want, MT gets its pull for a reason.
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>>268884577
>Rudeus gets fucked by this once every 3 nights
lucky fucker
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>>268884308
>Don't try to prove something to these retarded MTfags, they will take care of their shitty isekai and try to separate it from the trash can filled with other isekai shit.
No, I just enjoy the show. I could care less how good or unique it is compared to other isekai
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>>268884585
God I wish sometimes I was a fucking tourist cause I wouldn't be here forever. Lmao. Anyway best scene of the show was when ghlisene went all sword God mode on those mooks.
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>>268860619
>still seething
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Why is Volume 13 so perfect?
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>>268884365
>The world building it as is mediocre
What?
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>>268884250
>despite the story being centered around the main character's relationship with his wives
It's not. For example, look at the university arc in volumes 8 and 9 - the majority of it is about Rudeus interacting with the special class, with a little bit of Sylphy in between, until she finally gets focus at the end. Even going into the volumes S2C2 covers, you had a whole episode for Nanahoshi breakdown, 2 for Norn, and then half of it being about going to rescue Zenith. Basically, don't think of it as a harem story, but rather a story that happens to have a harem.
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>>268884651
>coping this much over harem wish fulfillment slop
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>>268882543
>I can still see the appeal of such shows however. People just want to coom.

Seems like a common zoomer braindead argument when it comes to "criticizing" Mushoku Tensei. I don't even know if MT is considered an ecchi anime or not, but it's tame as fuck and censored into oblivion, and the amount of sex it has dwarfs in comparison to the average western TV show. A lot of people watch this series for the family drama, world building, writing, plot, character writing and the conflicts, otherwise it would just be a niche as fuck show that no one gives a fuck about, and yet people keep coming back to it and the popularity keeps increasing. Attributing this to "coomers" is retarded.
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>>268884518
Go masturbate to you ugly western shit shows & games.
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>>268884567
I mean yea doesn't Rudy end up having a harem or something after having so many epic battles that make us all just adore him? His reward for saving the day is that he gets to fuck them. Sounds like a power fantasy to me.
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>>268884505
How is your series better than other isekai trash?
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>>268884785
Because it's good, next question, faggot.
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>>268884741
SG is a harem anime and a shitty one at that.
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>>268884755
The 3rd or so episode has a girl masterbating to his parents fucking. I stopped taking the show seriously right then really.
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>>268884846
>The 3rd or so episode has a girl masterbating to his parents fucking.
okay, and?
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>>268884247
That had nothing to do with what I just typed. That also contradicts what you just said.
I don't want to sound like one of those schizos, but looking back, he's responded to every single reply at him, and now his replies don't even make sense.
I'm pretty sure this is a bot, or someone who's really bored copying and pasting an ai conversation into posts.
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>>268884861
And I coomed 10/10 anime can't wait to not watch any of it past the final ep of season one. Cause it clearly peaked there.
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>>268884818
It's not a harem at all but there's more of that Mushoku cope again.
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>>268884551
>The rest of the plot doesn't matter, which I know for a fact because nobody talks about this show in any context other than jerking off
That's literally because you never actually visit any threads about it. Season 2 had more discussion about it that every other anime last season, if you don't believe me, go check the archives & the threads on every other site. The average haremshit isekai doesn't generate the amount of attention this show gets.
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>>268882293
Lmao
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>>268884905
You're the fucking bot. You watch nothing but harem isekai...
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>>268882346
>"Duudi"
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Okay that proves it, please stop replying to him.
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>>268884961
>"Lewdi"
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>>268884846
That's exactly why i'm saying it's a braindead zoomer take.
>Has one 20 second scene of a girl panting and implied masturbation and nothing beyond that
>"OH MY GOD IT'S LITERAL PORN! IT'S ANIME FOR GOONEEERS OH MY FUCKING GOD I CAN'T STAND A SINGLE MENTION OF SEX IN THE ANIME I WATCH"

Nigger, battle harems had MCs whose powers were literally undressing women and getting powerups from seeing pressing nipples. Western TV shows can't go even a second without sex scenes. This is tamest shit ever. If you are that much of a bitch just say so, but anyone going into this thinking of having a goon sesh is just coming out robbed and disappointed.
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>>268884289
perhaps the teens of 2010 grew up?
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>>268884734
Ah, ngl I'm an anime only so I am missing on a bit.
I don't know if that would make it better or worse that the female characters are still pretty flat.
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>>268884775
Having a harem doesn't automatically make something a power fantasy, that's a shallow way of looking at something, especially since the relationship between Rudy & the 3 heroines are built up over the course of many volumes before anything official happens. Most harems don't take the time to build the relationships with the heroines, they just have the MC do one nice thing for them.
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>>268885030
He's Duudi when they're in the labyrinth, but Lewdi when they're in the sheets.
>>268885048
>>268885054
Stop replying to the ai.
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>>268885095
Imagine coping so hard you believe your opponent is a machine lmao
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>>268885084
There is no power fantasy. A power fantasy has a bitch boy main character becoming a gigachad that is "Oh so powerful" and owns everyone. Rudeus gets his ass kicked all the fucking time, episode 22's entire plot was "I can't do shit to this hydra, so we need to do this one risky strategy... What could go wrong?" and shit goes wrong.
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>>268883874
So I was right. Dumb cunts gaslighting me because I didn't remember all the specific terms.
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>>268885159
Imagine replying to literally everyone who disagrees with you
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>>268885184
Man, that Paul only died because he loved his son too much and wanted to look cool for him...
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>>268885184
I've been told he gets over it because his childhood crush sleeps with him. I mean it's just funny that this hydra thing is such a big deal only for the pay off to be seeing a sex scene with Roxy. I'm sure the threads where nothing but coom posting for weeks
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>>268880973
>some critically acclaimed isekai story
Fat Mexicans on YouTube doing low quality reviews does not count as "critically acclaimed".
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>>268881599
It's crazy that 1. Paul was the only one in the party capable of even hurting the hydra and 2. He's not even that strong of a swordsmen when you compare him to the likes of Ghislaine and Ruijerd. Either of them probably could've realistically soloed the hydra with little difficulty. Really goes to show how actually busted warriors are in MT.
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>>268881482
This image gives me second hand embarrassment.
Polygamy is so fucking cringy and mentally ill.
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>>268885250
Especially sad because Paul had to do it twice consecutively because his son is physically unable to react quickly enough.
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>>268885313
>Polygamy is so fucking cringy and mentally ill.
hello ACK
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Pokemon starter harem has and never will be topped.
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>>268885184

>There is no power fantasy
The mind of an MT enjoyer
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>>268885278
The entirety of the upcoming season 3 arc is the payoff, not the sex with Roxy. For anime onlys, the actual turning point 3 hasn't happened yet.
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>>268885278
>I've been told he gets over it because his childhood crush sleeps with him
No, that's not what happens, but seeing as you admit you didn't watch it yourself, now I know not to take you opinions seriously.
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>>268882674
>>268882952
I interpreted it as him getting sorta lost in the sauce of "we're kicking its ass" while watching it. Really shouldn't have caught him off guard like that with his demon eye though.
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>>268885354
>instantly starts screeching about his boogieman
Man, it's just so easy to tell who you are.
Also, it's funny watching you delude yourself into thinking only one person is against your mental illness.
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>>268885235
I didn't reply to >>268884756
Because I don't really fap to western stuff lol.
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>>268885305
It's not that Paul is especially strong. He's got a magic sword that cuts better the harder the target it, and the hydra's scales are pretty damn so it cuts through like butter.
The anime omits this so it makes Paul look retarded strong when he's cutting through steel without a problem.
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>>268885357
Topped in terms of what? Being garbage?
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>>268885250
Paul clearly had hangups by how Rudy never seemed to get flustered for his family's safety, or how it seemed like it was an after thought to him.. I like to think that final smile he gave was him seeing Rudy safe, but also Rudy grieving over his death seeing proof he truly cares about his family. That's what I got out of the final scene with Paul.
>>268885305
It's rare to see a fantasy world where the MELEE build is the broken one. Pretty fucking cool to be honest.
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>>268885280
Nobody here said anything about ecelebs, but good job outing yourself, now go the fuck back!
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>>268885278
Roxy just drags down the Labyrinth arc, otherwise its pure Kino with the Hydra and Paul
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>>268885388
you'll always be my favourite lolcow
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>>268879446
>who would call you a pedo for liking a 1000 year old loli vampire girl
You are. It's a body type.
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>>268885278
Who cares how Rudeus copes with his father's death and his mother becoming braindead? He still lost both of them and was powerless against the Hydra, that's the point. If this was a powerfantasy Rudeus would just use his supposedly "god tier" power and wreck the hydra and casually reunite his father with his mentally healthy mom after he cures her using his godly healing spell, or revive Paul or some shit like that.
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>>268885278
There's was indeed coomposting.

Fucking homewrecking migger
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>>268885473
eyeless people kissing each other is very hot and sexy.
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>>268885383
Why would I watch trash just so you could take my opinion on said trash seriously? I hate this show, and I hate it's fans. They are all so shit and it vexes me how people can consider themselves fans of it. There's nothing about the show that has been discussed in the thread that seems remotely interesting besides that the light novel seems to have more stuff than the show could obviously.
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>>268885473
>Rifujin changed this scene to make it Roxy's decision instead of Rudy's to make it more acceptable to normalfags
>Has the opposite effect and makes people call Roxy a homewrecker
GOOD JOB, RETARD.
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>>268885473
She completely admits she took advantage of him, this has happened twice to Rudy.
>>268885492
You take your eyes out and put them on the night stand before sex. Keeps them from getting damaged.
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Duudi should always be the bottom to Roxy and Eris.
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>>268885462
Well why didn't he just beat the hydra up? Is he stupid? Also it's a good thing his dad died and his mom's a potato I guess. Fuck Rudy hop both those things happen to him.
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>>268885377
>no argument

The life of a MT hater.
Rudeus never becomes the strongest, he never reaches his full potential of power, he never becomes a king, emperor or god, he never becomes an assertive giga chad. He becomes a family man working to protect and support his family, that's not a powerfantasy, that's a reality for a decent amount of people.
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>>268885442
You're so desperate to think you make people into lolcows. When in reality you're totally alone and trying to pretend 4chan is your army.
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>>268883025
>catching him red handed fapping to loli porn
Isn't the loli porn only the English translation? I thought the original Japanese said it was video of his niece in the bath or something. Or was that just the original web novel?
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i lift for rudy
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Thread challange mode:
!Akemi sees a post shitting on Mushit Tenshit and doesn't reply, and doesn't have a total mental break down.

Status: Impossible.
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>>268885420
Have you even watched the show or read the books?
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>>268885537
It's honestly better.
You either have assertive Roxy taking Rudy from behind, or you need spaghetti-spilling Roxy blabbering about how she totally is experienced in the art of sucking a trillion dicks like Elinalise while obviously and visibly lying.
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>>268885595
So he never does anything at all besides get his dad killed and his mom made into a potato. What a character.
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>>268885537
Was it really Rudy's decision originally?
Don't start changing it now to make it more acceptable, that point is it's suppose to be human, warts and all.
>>268885615
That first one was just something someone made up, I've never seen it actually implemented in any version of the story.
It was clearly his niece, you can see the shampoo bottles and tubs even after the scene got censored.
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>mc was a worthless sack of shit in his first life who got kicked out of his house for recording and jacking off to to his 10 yo niece in the bath
>supposed to be about "muh redemption" and changing yourself
>gets reincarnated
>still a degenerate pedo
>grooms and molests kids
>only gets by because of good genes not changing himself
It's one of the worst isekais out there, kill yourself
>inb4 b-but his was a kid when he was reincarnate-
Kill yourself. He's still a adult with all his memories, his body doesn't matter.
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>>268881364
>has zero media literacy
>literally can't read obvious subtext.
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>>268885639
You fell off. You'd have mass replied to everyone on the thread defending MT by now, talking about safe spaces and claiming everyone is that one nigger you are still in love with from the past. You are just being really boring now.
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>>268885595
Being a happily married man and father is considered a power fantasy to some.
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>>268885278
The full title of the series if "Jobless Recarnation in Another World Without Regrets"
Keywords being "Without regrets."
Man God tells Rudy he would regret going to save his mom. The point is he did and a ton of bad things happened, and a lot more bad things will happen as a result. But Rudy himself has to live with his choices and learn to not have regrets
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>>268884785
I mean, you could actually go through the fucking thread and see plenty of reasons, but other than those
>past life isn't instantly forgotten/hand waved away
>MC ends up strong, but not OP - many characters capable of destroying him in close combat
>no grorious nippon mayonnaise autism
>no stat screens - stat numbers are completely non-existent
for example.
>>268885080
I woudln't say the female characters are flat by any means, it's partly due to the fact that the anime skips over a lot of POV bits, so you lose some developments from the female cast as a result. That plus you get more interesting backstories on the male characters, like Ruijerd being brainwashed and killing his whole family and carrying his son's spear as a reminder (the Sperd are born with tails that harden and fall off eventually, and they use those as their spears, so Ruijerd is literally carrying a part of his son with him), or Badigadi who has those odd moments where he becomes uncharacteristically serious, as if he's hiding something important. Don't even get me started on a certain Death God Ally of Justice who was christened by one of the legendary godslayers who has a whole copypasta dedicated to him that can't be contained in a single post at this point.
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>>268885537
>>Has the opposite effect and makes people call Roxy a homewrecker
LNfags were already doing that long before that episode even aired.
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/homewrecking%20migger/
Also, sleeping with him it was Roxy's decision in the LN as well. The anime just made her the more active one in the affair.
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>>268885690
>assertive Roxy taking Rudy from behind
Unrealistic, absolves Rudy of any agency in his own grieving process.
>spaghetti-spilling Roxy blabbering about how she totally is experienced in the art of sucking a trillion dicks
Cute, consistent with her childish tendencies to appear older and more womanly.
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>>268885782
Well, ackshually, the regrets is that the Man God will now openly try to get rid of his disobedient apostle. Shold have obeyed and fuck beastgirl princesses, tisk tisk tisk. But nooo, you had to go save the bluehaired incel virgin girl just in the last second instead.
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>>268881608
I thought it was Rudeus' body reacting subconsciously because he began to fear sex thinking it was the thing that drove Eris away and thought it would drive the other women in his life away.
He finally gets over his ed after he sees Slyphie stayed, helping him get over his trauma.
That's what I read into it.
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>>268885537
You can't really make it not sort of bad either way. Being completely honest, personally I was left thinking Sylphie was an absolute doormat who had no trust that Rudy would even stay, let alone be loyal.
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>>268885615
>Isn't the loli porn only the English translation?
No, the og english translation was ''mosaicless video'' before the revision.
>I thought the original Japanese said it was video of his niece in the bath or something. Or was that just the original web novel?
only the WN
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>>268885689
>have I eaten dog shit to confirm that it's dog shit?
Leaving aside all the cheating, sleeping around, and blatant self insert wish fulfillment garbage. It trying to glorify polygamy alone makes this shit 0/10 garbage.

And of course, how the MC is portrayed on "growing up an maturing as a person from his previous life" but the only difference between how he started as a character and how is now is that people don't shame him for his behavior.
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>>268885761
Failed the challenge.
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Who is !Akemi?
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>>268885841
This is true as well, I'm mostly talking about from a meta-perspective of where the author was going. This was the moment that Rudeus Greyrat the pervert loses his pervertedness and honestly falls in love with a "man" whom he shouldn't really be attracted to. I also remember one part from the novels where Rudeus says he respected Sylphie and didn't want to just see her as someone that allows him to have sex with, but someone he loves and respects. It's a complete change from his previous self that believe sex and relationships are just a way to get off.
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>>268860619
Right place right time
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>>268885702
>his mom made into a potato.
He didn't do that dumbass
>What a character.
since when is a character making mistakes a bad thing?
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>>268885387
His demon eye is worthless if something comes from outside of his line of sight. He was trying to telegraph movements of the whipping heads, but the fucker come right down from right overhead.
He definitely noted about how he was hoping it wasn't some new attack right after they had managed to block what he thought was the hydra's ultimate (the fire breath.)
He wasn't expecting the overhead strike.
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>>268860530
>shit series gets high budget animation
>normies now love it
every time
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>>268885868
>I was left thinking Sylphie was an absolute doormat who had no trust that Rudy would even stay, let alone be loyal.
unironically yes. they only left one instance of her more or less telling Rudy in advance in the anime, but she tells him a few more times in the LNs and she has multiple points where it shows her PoV and she's telling herself that Rudy is going to have multiple wives and it isn't her job to shoo them off but rather it's her job to make sure they love Rudy as much as she does. Roxy and Eris pass, but Banana and Sara do not.
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>>268884214
Western anime fans almost doubled since covid. They know nothing about anime and are still in their "japanese can be so quirky xd" phase.
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>>268885956
MT is a 2012 series though. I feel like it'd actually be better if it received an anime adaptation at that point, the standards has fallen nowadays
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>>268885382
What are you talking about? The chapter was literally called Turning Point 3 when he got the news from Geese. You don't get to define what TP3 is; the author already did, definitively.
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>>268885944
>Rudeus says he respected Sylphie and didn't want to just see her as someone that allows him to have sex with, but someone he loves and respects.
This would make sense if he didn't fuck her pregnant and then cheat on her with another woman. You don't cuck someone you respect
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>>268885958
I honestly don't care about him doing shit wrong. He's a terrible person because he's a pedophile and nothing will ever redeem him.
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>>268885868
>>268886001
She is a bit of a doormat to be honest. She only grew a spine later on with redundancy where Rudeus was left to sleep in the doghouse/couch whenever he fucked up.
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Leo is going to win over all the normies next season.
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>>268886001
Sara was gonna get a pass if Rudy didn't shoot that possibility down. Ariel is the one that Sylphy outright says is completely off limits.
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>>268886027
To be more specific, TP3 was him defying Hitogami and putting things back on track for Lara to be born.
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>>268885725
He's literally a kid. He's given an opportunity to completely rewire his neural pathways, which an adult human isn't capable of.
He feels nothing sexual for children.
He felt sexual attraction to Eris, but she was older than him.
He feels nothing for family members through any of the novels that the anime has covered and only comments about kids as being cute.
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It's just haremshit, series would be better for it's own good if it sticked with Sylphie being the only wife
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>>268885815
>Unrealistic, absolves Rudy of any agency in his own grieving process.
If he really didn't want to fuck at all, he could still push her away gently with wind magic, refuse to hold her hand, say no is no and so on.
In the end, both wanted to do it.
It's not like Roxy is putting magical shackles on Rudeus, making him horny with succubi pheromones and then straddling his dick while he's possessed by the desire to mate.
Although that should have happened.
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>>268886039
This would make sense if you didn't watch or read without context
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>>268886050
>He's a terrible person because he's a pedophile and nothing will ever redeem him.
This series isn't even about redemption dumbass, way to miss the point.
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>>268886096
I'm not reading this (thank you for the spoiler markers) but can you explain without spoilers why you get to redifine the importance of chapter names?
I'm almost done with Volume 13.
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>>268886039
>This would make sense if he didn't fuck her pregnant
This has nothing to do with respect, he still loved her and respected her, but they had a healthy sex life. When you fuck someone without protection you get them pregnant, Rudeus having a kid early was actually good for his character.

>then cheat on her with another woman. You don't cuck someone you respect

I... Can't really argue with that, though to be fair, he didn't go to some random bitch, seduced her and fucked her, in order for him to cheat his father had to die, his mother had to become braindead, he had to mourn his previous life's parents and the person he trusted the most had to convince him to it. Still doesn't justify it though.
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>>268886121
It's a recorded phenomenon that people crave connection in the event of death. Rudy's at his lowest point and has no willpower to do anything on his own, how's he supposed to refuse Migger pussy?
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>>268886121
Yeah, you're right, he's not completely absolved.
Still though, kind of makes the change all the more pointless...
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>>268886104
>He's literally a kid
His soul is still his fat fuck self, he ain't a kid.
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>>268886050
>He's a terrible person because he's a pedophile
Since when does that automatically make a character bad? Araragi Koyomi is a pedophile & he's considered on of the best MC's in anime.
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Rifujin is just a shit writer, it's time to accept it
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>>268886134
>series isn't about redemption
The nigga is a 30 years old brain in a boys body. He gets a second chance to not be a worthless sack of shit in a second life. He manages to do this. I just saved everybody watching this garbage a few hours of their life.
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>>268886122
"Knowing the context, it's actually okay that my wife fucked another man" said nobody ever.
>inb4 it's different with dumb women
Then that's not "respect".
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>>268886247
Apparently, Rifujin is so based and powerful, he can cancel entire series like isekai cheat slayer with one single tweet.
He must be the best, most renowed and most influential author ever to be able to do that.
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>>268886240
Well he's clearly not if he's a pedophile. Also this show sucks too. Not surprised Mushoku shitseifags like monogatari.
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>>268886240
>See someone saying "pedo tensei" or "Rudeus is a groomer pedophile"
>Check the anime they like
>They like Monogatari and love Araragi

Why is this so common?
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>>268886247
More like it's time for you to stop seething & accept your lord & savior.
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>>268886134
Its funny because Rudy pretty much erases every ounce of his past life and becomes someone completely new.
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>>268881575
Go back to /tttt/
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>>268886256
>t. someone who didn't watch it himself
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>>268886338
Which ought to be expected, considering that he by then spent twice as much time in the fantasy world than he did in the mundane world.
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>>268886188
Meant that the combo was bad, if he cheated on her but she had no child or they still haven't had sex, its slightly better as she has more freedom on being able to choose what to do.
Being married and pregnant, good luck being a teenage dingle mother in MT land.
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>>268886338
More like he moves on, there is no point clinging to it. I don't really understand how people view the sense of self when it comes to this series. At some point he has to become Rudeus greyrat, right? Theseus ship and all.
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What kind of person do you think "Rudeus Greyrat" would grow up to be, were they never stillborn and Rudy's soul never entered his body?
I wonder if he would've turned to be a child prodigy like Rudy was.
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>>268886374
I'm glad that I'll never give this stupid fucking show another second of my time. It's got nothing of value to even consider mine having watched the first season by the sounds of it.
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>>268886237
Are you familiar with neural pathways? It's very important to understand that the pathways you create influence your pliability/proclivity to certain activities, an example of which could be drug or porn addiction. If you never give yourself reinforcement for behaviors (like taking drugs to feel good) then you won't have the intense desire to consume the drug or seek the porn.

Funny you bring up his soul though. Sure, maybe his soul is the same, but if you use the scope of reincarnation from budhism or the saveable nature of the soul from Christianity, having the same soul means nothing to his proclivities. He may have memories of doing gross things or behaving certain ways, but he has an opportunity to start fresh due to shedding his previous, mortal coil. The new brain gives him a chance to build positively on making progress.

But maybe you don't know the saving grace of Jesus Christ. Rudy doesn't make for a great Born Again Christian, but he does have an opportunity no one does: a fresh start.
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>>268886188
>Still doesn't justify it though
Nope, you can't. Just like a lot of mistakes people make in real life, people are human and make mistakes that don't need some sort of justification for it to happen.
That's what I like about this show, real actual mistakes with no fake outs bailing the mc out of responsibility of his actions.
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>>268875587
>>268875760
One of the pros of MT is that unlike every other harem isekai bs, the MC actually gets laid and marries his harem.

Stuff like Re:Zero and other slop just has the MC pining over which girl to pick until the very end of the series, only for him to pick the most generic ass one and leave the other girls heartbroken and off to marry farmers or side characters.
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>>268886433
He would just join the other kds and throw rocks at Sylphiette and make her eat shit for being a demon-brat. And when Roxy comes to teach Sylphiette, he would also join the other kids in throwing rocks at Roxy for being a demon.
Then he lives a mundane shitty in the village, being only average at magic because he doesn't train early into the arts of casting without incantations, and without knowing that you need to train your mana capacity early. Assuming he even would bother to leave Buena Village and not simply take over Paul's duty, he'd perhaps join an adventuring group, and then die in some adventure.
The end for completely-native no-soulless Rudeus Greyrat.
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>>268886289
>Also this show sucks too.
Dude, we know you have shit taste, no need to keep proving it to us.
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>>268886144
I'm not >>268885382 and I'm not trying to redefine what the Turning Points are supposed to be. But to answer your question, Rifujin did say what they represent - they represent a change in a certain chain of events. It'll make more sense once you get to THAT Turning Point.
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>>268886459
to add to this though, spending his first two years actively trying to learn a new language and getting strong positive reinforcement/high from successfully learning to read and using magic, he gave himself a very good head start on the neural development.
He even says as much, that he was sure the new brain explicitly helped him to develop positively, even if he did still grow up to put panties on his head as a makeshift kamen rider mask.
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>>268886527
There's no pro to any isekai ever unless you become fine with self inserting as the mc
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>>268886527
>only for him to pick the most generic ass one and leave the other girls heartbroken
this, I really don't understand this Japanese copeout, if you set up multiple love interests then actually deliver upon it. If you don't then don't bother writing them as such.
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>>268886488
Yeah. But this the reason why I dislike that Sylphie doesn't give a fuck about it. This is a criticism I see people making often, about has there is no lesson to be learned, but I don't think there is one, Rudeus quite literally made a mistake that he knew was wrong in a extremely unusual situation, he just admitted to it and Sylphie forgave him, but I still would've wanted for his relationship with Sylphie to become strained in some way so he'd have to do something to fix it.
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>>268886488
>no fake outs bailing the mc out of responsibility of his actions.
But there is no fall out outside Norn, who was easily told off. Sylphie just accepted it because she never figured he would be better.
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>>268886565
I bet you couldn't tell me a single thing that even happens in this show that wouldn't be about cooming over the girls
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>>268886527
>Stuff like Re:Zero and other slop just has the MC pining over which girl to pick until the very end of the series
Actually, Subaru already said he wanted to marry both Emilia & Rem, it just never goes anywhere, especially since Rem's memories got erased.
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>>268886580
gotcha, thanks for the future perspective
I was taking them literally as life-changing events.
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>>268886438
Thanks for proving my point that you don't know anything about the character or show
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Has Subaru at least managed to get laid in one of the trillion loops he experienced?
No what-if-stories.
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I'm surprised people even watched re:zero it looks even more slop than mushoku tensei
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>>268886644
Good why would I want to know anything about pedophile
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>>268886634
Eh, people have a problem with it but I think putting your relationship to the side when one of your love interests is in a literal coma is pretty reasonable. He was upfront about it with Emilia, and stayed at Rem's side and talked to her every night.
It'd be fucked if he was banging chicks instead and have Ram by herself to take care of her.
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>>268886459
>>268886581
Why do MTfags try so hard to pretend Rudy isn't a adult in a kid's body?
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>>268886592
>>268886599
>No fallout
Hm, you're right, it was easily resolved and would have been more interested if it wasn't so hand waved. Some struggling to make it work would have made the multiple wives less silly and more satisfying in how they made it work in the end.
Buuut, I was justifying it to myself that perhaps this is due to the perspective of the world they live in and how Norn and Rudy might seem overly conservative for their group and they're the outliers while Sylphie could be considered more of the norm.
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>>268886394
Rudy viewed his "spiritual self" as his old body. He saw himself as if thats who he was on the inside. The ending of the story really ties this together beautifully because he finally is able to see his spirit self as Rudy. He's not sure when it happened exactly, but somewhere down the road he became Rudy and erased everything of this old life. The grave scene with Paul is also important because Rudy admits he thought he was an adult in a kids body, but he finally admits hes not and hes just a kid in a kids body with memories of a previous life hes grown detached from.
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>>268886584
Isekai is fun because a good isekai will let you immerse yourself, yes.

"What if I was teleported into a fantasy world" etc. Isekai slop generally fails because the self-insert is always some 20 something fresh outta HS student who got hit by a truck despite most isekai readers being in their 30s.

It can also be refreshing to see someone struggle to adapt to a new world and its laws. But really isekai works decent enough for getting the audience into the world and its power system/society.

If you go with standard fantasy and not reincarnation, then the only way to can portray the MC, and by proxy the audience, how the world and/or magic works is either have the MC have amnesia and have to relearn everything, or make the starting arc take place in a school and the MC be a dumb kid. And no likes a fucking school arc.
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As long as it's not a Japanese girl whose very entry into the world caused a nuclear explosion that destroyed an entire region and displaced thousands of people, with most of them dissipating into nothingness, or dropping from the sky, or drowning in the sea, it's all fine.
Or whores. Don't do whores.
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>>268886706
Well, I have sounded harsh but I don't think it's dropworthy. It definitely put me off of Sylphie though. You seriously married a man you had no doubt would run to another woman? How much of a cuck can you be?
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>>268886638
They are, but they're changing someone specific's life and it isn't Rudy's
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>>268886638
Also, wanted to add about >>268885382
having said about the "actual TP3" not happened yet is wrong. The Turning Point did happen, but what I was saying (without spoiling too much) was that it wasn't about getting the letter from Geese, but something else in the chapter.
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>>268886760
>And no likes a fucking school arc.
Except apparently the nipponesians. They must be obsessed over school arcs and school uniforms and teenage girls, because a crapton of their fiction is set in schools.
It's quite sad that the nipponesians consider adult life to be so dreadfully dull that they'd wish to be in school again. Or die and be reborn to go to school again.
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>>268886760
I'd rather just watch a normal fantasy show than any isekai ever. I'm also sick of reincarnation being a thing in anime by now desu. Feels like we've seen it done to death.
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>>268886858
I can maybe understand magic school but if I get reincarnated into a magic world I'll figure that shit out on the fly.
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>>268886831
I can see loving someone past that, or perhaps she doesn't think of it like we do and that loving another woman doesn't subtract from how he loves her.
I personally would drop a bitch for cheating on me because I see it that you didn't care enough about me not to hurt me. But again, not how she would see it.
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>>268860619
Oh look, another faggot with no taste. Mushoku Tensei set the standard for isekai. It also executes it the best. It's so good that when someone dislikes it, it's a sure sign that their opinions on anything can be ignored.
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>>268860530
Because MT DEFINED the tensei/isekai genre.
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>>268886665
It's pretty fun, more of an occult-ish almost horror mystery than MT. Emphasis on the mystery, it can be a slog if you don't like making theories.
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>>268886706
>>268886831
You are right. If Sylphie was at least upset with Rudeus (even though she ultimately forgives him) this would've made Sylphie less of a doormat and cuck. Even if it was just a quick conversation where Sylphie appears to be hurt or upset and then Rudeus says in Paul's grave on how he had to make it up to Sylphie to regain her trust or something like that.
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>>268886928
More like if they like MT you can be assured they are just self inserting retards who want their characters to fuck little girls so they can coom.
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>>268886928
Its not "another" faggot, but the same faggot that keeps same fagging every MT thread over and over. He even admitted in 268886688 that he never watched the show, despite hating it. Weird obsession.
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>>268886276
>isekai cheat slayer
never heard of this, just googled it, how the fuck did anyone in editorial think this was okay

>let's just have our main protagonist hunt down and kill legally distinct versions of protagonists from other LNs/Manga
this sounds like something that MIGHT fly as a self published work but what the fuck were they thinking with this
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>>268873576
>What the fuck is that supposed to mean to anyone?
english can be an oppressive language to foreigners and immigrants. i believe you will benefit from a breakdown of the setence.

>I was studying
act of gaining knowledge, typically in education
>at Hiroshima Universty when
educational institute in hiroshima, japan. the implication is that anon has some insight into contemporary japanese culture because he was there
>Rifujin
author of mushoku tensei. japanese
>was popping off
famous turn-of-the-millennium phrase for doing good acts; very popular expression with millennials in particular. the good act in question is writing mushoku tensei
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>>268887018
>how the fuck did anyone in editorial think this was okay
Someone at least had some sense, as it got cancelled right way.
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>>268886928
>standard for isekai
Yeah no wonder that isekai is all trash
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>>268887016
>MT fans try to say Rudy isn't a pedophile attempt #1285004
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>>268886976
Yeah, definitely not expected "divorce arc" but some tears, maybe having a walk out, having a genuine conversation with Aisha, maybe on how its hard when you're in a situation where you're the "other" or how her mother felt like when she was at risk of being a single pregnant woman alone, thinking about the baby, that sort of thing.
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>>268886976
Sylphiette is unfortunately very much an insecure doormat.
Else, she wouldn't have preferred pretending to be a guy for more than a year to the guy she loved, because she feared the possibility that he might have genuinely forgotten and not given a shit anymore about her.
Sylphiette should have decided to stop larping as a dude the moment she arrived at the Ranoan Magic University.
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>>268887069
Peach
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>>268860530
Ah yess the shit ass isekai which the author had to damage control is shit ass writing when the dad died.
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>>268877552
This is mostly right. For example a burgh was a fortified town or castle town with an outer wall. If the area was abundant in stone it might be called "stonesburgh" or some such. In Old English "Ham" meant village, hence you have so many small places that end in it.
This naming style never really changed and I assume its cross cultural too for east and west. I know the American tribes both north and south did it.
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>>268860619
its all because of the elf hag cucking the vanilla fag
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>>268887071
Every woman hes been with is older than him. Quit pretending you know anything about the story.
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>>268886976
>Rudeus says in Paul's grave on how he had to make it up to Sylphie to regain her trust or something like that.
Yeah, totally "I want to regain your trust, but I refuse to be faithful to you, and will continue to sleep with other women whether you accept it or not. Agree I will never be faithful to you, or you lose me all together".
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>>268887111
This is true, this series very much wants you to accept characters for who they are, with their faults. It would have been interesting to see some in depth drama of what bringing a second wife home would realistically cause. But considering it's Sylphie, maybe this is the realistic outcome?
From everything that I've seen, I'm sorry Sylphie fans...
She IS a doormat.
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Roxy is much more of a doormat than Sylphie though. Sylphie figured that out which is why she can accept her.
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>>268887193
He masterbated to his niece and you're telling me I didn't watch the show lol.
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>>268887259
Lol, Sylphie accepted her doormatness
I don't know if that's commendable or pathetic. I love the girls regardless.
Or maybe it's pity...
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>>268887267
Non-canon.
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>>268887018
he fact that author was genuinely anally devastated from the fact that the isekai restaurant anime outdid his own anime, and thus took revenge on it by inserting the waitress and claim that she's some kind of fat neet loser murderer in her prior life was just the cherry on top of that whole stupidity.
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Sylphie isn't a doormat. She's insecure for sure, so she had to compromise about it, but she'd prefer a monogamous marriage deep down. If Roxy was actually any better, she wouldn't be fine being 2nd wife and would take away Rudy from Sylphie and ask him to elope with her
Sylphie didn't even get "cucked" by Roxy, since everything fell into her decisions
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>>268887425
Roxy was jerking off over the parents of the child she was tutoring having sex, both of them are pretty sad cases of doormats.
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>>268887419
the fact that Isekai Restaurant and Villainess were even included as antagonists is so fucking goofy, but the one that really made me go what the fuck was Kiruto. Like nigga you didn't even TRY to hide it you changed one fucking syllable
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>>268887425
>lets her husband be unfaithful to her
>not a doormat
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>>268887522
>roxy was jerking off
Wtf I love MT now
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>>268860709
If Dune is allowed all their unexplained bullshit, so is everyone.
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>>268887267
Yes, you didn't watch the anime. You got that information second-hand. That's the most obvious tell that someone is getting all their information second-hand. That doesn't happen in the LN, and the anime doesn't explicitly tell you what it is he was watching instead of going to his parents' funeral.
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>>268887419
Funny thing is, nobody on this board knew it existed until it got cancelled & when it's cancellation was announced, a lot of isekai haters acted like it was a great series that got destroyed by some jealous authors when in reality it was just a shallow parody.
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>>268887538
He explained he's in the dumps during, and he owes the girl very much. Sylphie in another timeline left him for doing a prostitute though
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>>268887626
I watched the first season. That's all I need anyway. Rudy is just such a bad character and it's impressive how many simps he's got.
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>>268887640
That's of course after he actively refused to have sex with her and was yelling at her to stop bothering him, while she tried to the same thing like Roxy and help him get out of his funk.
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>>268887592
To be fair, most of what he said is adressed in the books, not tax policies, obviously.
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>>268887815
>>268887815
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The sandworm shit must flow.
Sandworm shit, the most valuable thing in the universe.
Consuming sandworm shit increases your life span, gives you blue eyes, and confers a form of foresight.
Sandworm shit.
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>>268887640
"He was in the dumps and she wasn't there" isn't an excuse you can use if it's a woman the character is meant to really love and respect.
He just had to wait to reach the teleport thing.
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>>268887865
It's just a matter of conveniences and timing, maybe.
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>>268887740
how did you know it was his niece
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>>268887914
Makes it sound like Roxy is a woman of convenience lol.
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Well, the real only way to save Rudeus from wasting away without him being fucked by Roxy or Elinalise is if Elinalise managed to get back home to Sylphiette, wait until Sylphiette gives birth, then return to Rapan with Sylphiette to get Rudeus out of his malaise.
They'll just have to forcibly keep Rudeus alive for half a year while he's moping inside his room.
Alternatively, catch a succubus, put her on a stick, and lead Rudeus back to the teleporter.
Might be problematic to keep Geese away from doing the nasty on the girls as well, though.
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>>268887979
Wouldn't that be Sylphie, given she was conveniently ready to step aside and make room for another woman whenever Rudy decided to bring one home?
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>>268888005
rudy honestly didn't even need sex. he just needed someone to hug him and tell him it was gonna be alright, the world wasn't ending even though he lost his dad and thinks he lost his mom

roxy just decided that the most important part of him that needed hugging was his penis, and that she would use her vagina to do it
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>>268887740
>Rudy is just such a bad character
If you mean bad character as in poorly written, then you're just retarded. If you meant to say bad person, then you missed the point. It's not so much he's a bad person, but he's a failure, and he admits it himself, and his behavior makes sense for someone who dropped out of high school and shut themselves in for nearly 20 years, not interacting with people in person. And Rudeus is very much not the same failure he was starting to change from in season 1 (volumes 1-6).
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>>268860530
can't beat Eversoul's
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>>268888135
not the same failure in later volumes*
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>>268888161
What is this?
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>>268888194
Just gacha scheisse
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Any way or another, he would need Sylphiette. Roxy-hugs do nothing, obviously, which is why it had to escalate to Roxy-sex. And without sex, anything but Sylphiette being present fails.



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