Were anime in the 90s better or worse than now?
>>269188782Generally speaking, worse.
>>269188782Slayers is 100 times better than anything airing now
>>269188782>Nagabetter
>>269188782Better because we didn't have as much acess to anime as we do now & seasonal watching wasn't a thing back then so almost all the mediocre shit has been forgotten & left in the past.
>>269188782name 5 90s anime
>>269190404Tenchi MuyoOutlaw StarRanma 1/2 (started in 1989, got canceled, revived in 1990)Sailor MoonHamtaro
the highs were sky-high, the lows were the lowest
>>269188828butthurt because we had better anime faggot.>>269188782is called the golden age for a reason, no matter how hard they try to copy products from the golden age or remaking them it will still be an inferior product compared to anything made in the golden age.take that animax and AT-X live airing 90s anime and they have better ratings then modern anime.
>>269190923back then if an anime didn't have a rating of 200 or more that anime was considered garbage.>Yuu Yuu Hakusho rating 140>Hunter x Hunter rating 140>Evangelion rating 850>Ranma rating 650
>>269188782I want to suffocate on those breasts
Watching an anime from the 90s right now. When does it stop being shit?
>>269189329>seasonal watching wasn't a thing back thenYeah it wasWe were just a few seasons behind due to the time it took to get fansubs
>>269192468thinking that this is from a cassic shoujo anime aimed at little girls.
>>269192648nope it wasn't, we had as much shows or more then currently and it wasn't shitty 12 episodes one season anime.take dragon ball, gundam, ranma and so on you have lot of episodes in one go something that is kinda blasphemy currently>currenlty : no they are exploiting animators making more then 12 episodes>back then : we have to finish the current episode and start preparing next week episode, let's make a fun original anime episode in the beach, we can use the sexy girls behaving more slutty then usual.
>>269188782better it didnt cater to everyone or was plague by isekai
>>269192826Its Magic Knight Rayearth
>>269194101yes a shoujo anime aimed at little girls, anyone knows the origin.
>>269188782Better when it comes to ideas and execution.Animation is hit or miss no matter the age, but when we compare the best animations then and now, then 90's had the better (AKA: with actual character) animations.>>269194249Pfff. You forgot it turns fullblown mecha at the end of S1 and for the whole S2.
>>269194998still is a shoujo anime, just because turns out meccha doesn't mean it stopped being a shoujo anime.or are you the kind that claims things like "it has this content so this is the type and audience" well sadly for you it isn't, take a modern example like project K, is a fujo anime, is targeted to fujoshis and fudanshis yet i won't deny has the best fanservice and the sluttiest girls in modern anime but is a fujo anime no matter the content or how much pantyshots or naked girls it shows.
>>269188782better!!
>>269192826Demographics don't mean anything in Clamp manga/anime. Chobits has more female fans than male despite being Seinen. Cardcaptor Sakura probably has a bigger fanbase of adult men that young girls even though it's a Shoujo series.
>>269196547shoujo manga/shoujo anime simple fact.
>>269188782so much betterwhy are you asking leading questions you already know the answer to?
>>269188782>>269192468I want to lick them all over
>>269188851Slayers is almost unwatchable today
>>269198439made my 10th rewatch a few days ago, still as funny as it was the first time
>>269190404Kidou Senkan NadesicoGolden BoyDirty Pair FlashTrigunRurouni Kenshin
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>>269194249Rayearth is love, Rayearth is life
>>269188782Overall it's subjective but in terms of artstyle, miles better
The 90s gave us the best episodes of the best anime of all time.
>>269198439if you were born in 1999 I could see why you'd think thatI'll just chalk this up to basic bitch shit zoomer tastes
>>269188782Rather quite better
>>269190404Saber Marionette JEatmanSilent MobiusMagic Knight RayearthCyberTeam in Akihabara
>>269198439Not really?
>>269188782It had much different, slower, pacing. Its really hard to watch now, but not because of its qualityAnd older anime feels much more experimental. I think 2007-era is my favorite, felt like anime grew with the audience. It was the most influential for me. Its not OLD old, like 80-90, but i still think it was the peak of media
>>269188782The art was much better. Everything else, worse.
>>269199762is not hard to watch, pacing is quite normal and good for anyone unless IQ at room temperature and attention span of 5 seconds.
>>269199762>It had much different, slower, pacing. Its really hard to watch now, but not because of its qualityI won't argue the pacing is different but it's still plenty watchable unless you're some binge watching maniac who barely even lets what he just saw register.
90s anime has some hidden gems .
>>269190404Uhhhhh Bleach
>>269200684>Ok anon we have no woman on this planet for you so you'll have to manage with these gov issued androids
>>269199467LOCOMOTION was ahead of its time , truly the most soulful anime channel there ever was .
>>269200684Slayers is not a hidden gem. It's a well known series.
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>>269189329I hate loss of media!
>>269194101Not sure whether or not to be disappointed Umi didn't wield a glaive and Fuu a bow and arrows.
I don't think modern anime is all bad, but I'm not gonna lie and say that I don't prefer when coloring was done with actual paint.
>>269188782Almost every anime I own is from the 90's.
>>269200684Are you implying that Saber Marionette J was/is obscure?
>>269188782Objectively yes for the early 90s.For the later 90s... sort of but it was already in decline.It declined to modern standards from 1995-2005ish. We were already getting CGI shows as early as like 2002 though at least in the west (like "Dragonbooster" holy fuck that made me want to break my tv it looked so bad and I wasn't even 10 yrs old, that shit made me so fucking mad because I thought all anime and western animation would look like that... which was kinda right btw. Damn, 10 yr old me had good taste.). Like really shitty looking fake 2D sorts, not pixar (which is actually good and I don't get how Japan sucks so much at CGI still).Anyway, it just looks so much better than today's quality. The method is just better. It's like music, there is something in cel animation that gives it life. Artists to this day touch up their shit by hand because it just adds a quality to it. Bit like why techno artists ironically avoid DAWs nowadays to replicate the method in the 90s (which is not easy, I've tried, but it does get results).
>>269202146Lain,Berserk,Macross Plus,Tenchi Universe,Gundam 0083,Outlaw Star, Sailor Moon, Ninja Scroll, Patlabor 1 and 2, Giant Robo,Trigun, Street Fighter Alpha ovas, You're Under Arrest Movies, Dragon Ball GT, Ranma ovas all came out in the 90's, I own them all.
>>269202257>later 90s... sort of but it was already in declineCompletely disagree late 90's was peak of TV anime also we had CGI shows since Reboot in 94, how old are you?
>>269202257What you just posted is moeshit, end yourself moeshitter.
>>269199243I was born in the mid 90s and I love Slayers and I agree with that anon. It's dying for a remaster. From memory it had shitty 480p at best on the internet and... well it's not even sold in my country.I wasn't raised with Slayers quality. I was raised with shitty Naruto tier trash.DBZ was the closest I got. Pokemon and Digimon honestly don't look good already by 1999. But I can tell Slayers has a better animation style and method, it's just not remastered and that kinda sucks.Lodoss and Arslan OVAs in the late 80s and 90s are peak anime though. The best it ever got. Same with Sonoda works like Bubblegum Crisis, one of the Gall Force OVAs and Gunsmith Cats - which looks sublime. Sonoda knew his girls and his guns (models of which he probably has an illegal collection of nowadays and I wish him all the best for his legal cases that he will inevitably get into).
Everything was better in the 90s.
>>269202383I meant CGI that emulated 2D style and pretended to be a 2D animation. That was not really much of a thing until the early 00s. It really exploded in the 10s though. Video games started to use it more in the mid 00s. I blame "the simpsons hit and run". That's when that shit appeared more and more.Although I've seen some fan mods for that game today and it's definitely improved a hell of a lot. In the 00s it was so obvious. Then the French or something did some tweaks and I think the Japanese started to use that in anime games like DBZ budokai.Before that CGI was just 3D shit with no attention to detail to how to make it look more like 2D. Again, Simpsons really encapsulates that as an early game trying to really have a crack at making it look like the 2D format.Though arguably Disney animation played with it since Tarzan... which kinda blows my mind because it looks so much better than modern CGI shit if true.
Anybody who says that anime was better in the past is delusional. The types of genres represented in anime are different nowadays than they were back then, but by and large, anime is better than it was in the 90s. Feel free to cherry pick outstanding shows, scenes or just images all you want. If there was anybody who cared enough to prove you wrong they could post 10 bad shows for every good one you post. And at the end of it all, at this point in time we have the old anime AND the new anime to choose from. Get over yourself and grow up. This debate will only end when you realize that nobody should care. Nothing has really changed. There was good anime back then. There is good anime now. There was bad anime back then. There is bad anime now.
>>269202454I don't think that anon meant it like that, but it's true that Slayers needs a remaster. The 30th anniversary of the anime is coming up next year so maybe Japan will finally come up with a prohibitively expensive box set or whatever.
>>269202545It really was the last hurrah before everything became monopolised, digitised and bland.AI is suffering the same problem people began having with digital music in the 90s. You hear things like metal in the 90s and compare it to the 00s and it's horrifying how bad it got production wise.We just went all in on digital and didn't think about how that could fuck the production up until like 2008ish, when artists reacted to it.Now ironically AI could actually help with making digital feel more and more like analog but most people don't get how that is the case. AI is basically a clever digital noise filter potentially. I've kinda wanted this for ages.But we're using it stupidly right now. It's hard to manipulate for purposes as is.
>>269202711Anon music been master digitally since the early 80's, most records used digital masters.
>>269202424Oh so you're a summer normalfag or just cancer.>posting against moe in a Slayers thread.
>>269202700I assume they lost the original master and it's why the version on Blu Ray in Japan and online is a shitty upscale and it's better to find rips of the old DVD.
>>269200737>Ok anon we have no woman on this planet for you so you'll have to manage with these gov issued androids>woman are evil demons that would eat you at first sighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN9TD_Txy2k
>>269202632Nice plebbit spacing, faggot.Cel shading technique is objectively better and Redline proved this in 2009. You are either a newfag or ignorant.Digital, for starters, suffers from mechanical automation issues that fucks up the naturalisation of artist strokes. And the method of concatenating scenes required more imagination and memory to get it to work correctly with cels.Brains are a muscle. Exercise it too little and it becomes lazy. This is why modern animation sucks. The artists are too dependant on their digital interfaces and not their brain. So they miss things they would have noticed had they used the analog method.Things, ironically, that AI could be useful to pick up on. Instead it will be used to make even duller, cheaper, lazier anime.
>>269202700There's a fair amount of digital noise in the version I watched so there's that issue. I don't know how that happens in vids but I assume the issue is akin to how jpgs degrade or something on people's disks.
>>269202632Do tell me a modern Mahou Shoujo anime better than Sakura go ahead.
>>269202937FUNimation always used less discs on their anime releases than other companies so if it's rip of FUNi re-release that might be it, like how Pioneer releases of anime were 6 discs like Trigun vs FUNi 4.
Imagine thinking modern Disney slop is better than 90s and early 00s animation. How braindead must you be?They were literally complaining about the declining quality of animation by the early 00s IN THE FUCKING ANIMATION.These fucking kids piss me off nowadays. They don't realise how bad shit is now because they just don't want to accept that they live in the shitty world of cheap knockoff animation where everything is half assed and artists are literally too braindead to realise what they're doing wrong and why it's fucking things up.At least the music industry immediately understood this shit. They've gone back to basics and it's made good new shit.
>>269202973Mahou Shoujo Magical Destroyers
>>269202784That's a strong possibility since the original studio that made Slayers went defunct in the early 2000s.I think the shows are owned by Enoki Films, and they're...interesting to say the least. They definitely aren't going to through the expense of digging up any film reels and restoring them.
>>269202988I was more talking compression issues. Mainly talking on hdd storage or ssd storage. It blows my mind that a file can degrade on your disk simply by playing it too much. Disks have a different sort of file dilapidation problem. You things like disc rot and disc usage issues. DVD suffers this problem more.I like how people didn't think about this in the 00s and just assumed that a cd would store the data forever. Only now are people realising that we're losing archives because of disk degradation and compression issues.
>>269203170I mean I never experience disc rot in my life.
>>269188782The only down side to modern anime is kinda pic related, all the women tended to be extreme twigs even more than the 80's and the huge tits always looked like a boobjob and not natural, I do prefer how bodies are drawn for anime girls today for at least busty characters but I prefer the faces of old anime girls.
>>26920336690's*
We had sci-fi animeThat alone is reason enough to make the 90s better than now
>>269203451There have been a couple this year, but they don't really look that appealing.
>>269203451Being a genre fan in general seemed to be more pleasant in the 90s. I imagine a lot of fans got into anime at all because there was overlap with stuff like fantasy and sci fi that they were already into. At least that was my case.
Digital is pretty soulless, I miss the cel those little imperfections and draw lines made everything pop
Nothing from the last 15 years will be remembered by anyone.
>>26918878290's was the best time for anime like the 80's was the best time for music.
>>269203227I had it all the time in the 00s, let alone now.But mainly because my sister left my cds in the rain or in the sun because she was a whore.>without telling me>with makeup on them, they were mixing plates to experiment with her cosmeticsI wanted to strangle her and nearly did several times.
>>269198439did people have different eyes or something? i was able to watch it just fine
>>269204228How much from the past 15 MONTHS is remembered?
>>269188782The passion seems to be gone. The animators of the past were hotblooded otaku and sexual deviants who loved animating tanks, robots and explosions. The bold aggressive shading, gone. The masculinity just vanished. Phytoestrogens in the water, I'm telling you. They turned the freakin' frogs gay for Christ's sake. They had sort of revivial of fantasy with isekai but it it feels so cheap and ironic compared to the '90s.
>>269199762i preffer slower pacing, today's animes and just media in general is way too fast it feels like a sugar rush.and no im not a boomer i was born in 1999
>>269199762>felt like anime grew with the audiencewhat? almost everything today is childish isekai fantasies at least back in the day it wasnt afraid to be awesome.
>>269204527It's also that the direction is all wrong ay. It's so messy and no real thought goes into it.
>>269202351i want to own MD geist
>>269202632most anime these days is shite and on top of having lame derivative stories they also look like shit and the music is shit too
>>269203931yep not sci fi specifically for me (though i do love the genre) but i watched violence jack and fist of the north star because i love the mad max movies
>>269204636>most anime these days is shite and on top of having lame derivative stories they also look like shit and the music is shit toocope
>>269204574i also hate how so many modern animes have this anoying shaky camera that just looks retarded and like they only do it to trick the audience into thinking there is a lot of animation going on its like modern animes are made to appeal adhd retards that enjoy the equivalent of keys jingling in front of them
>>269204725you know im right
>>269188782>Were anime in the 90s better or worse than now?old media is lauded because it's already filtered. you don't have to separate the wheat from the chaff, you just get the wheat. just like you don't see people suggesting you watch the crap shows from even 15 years ago. whens the last time someone suggested you watch Sacred Blacksmith? go on the archive and check.
>>269205227even the average stuff from back then (im talking about media in general not just anime) is better than the average stuff that comes out today, specially if it comes from america and if it has writters from california
>>269205290When was the last time someone suggested Sacred Blacksmith on /a/?
>>269188782I like it more but that's what anime is to me. Anime has changed so much that it's unrecognizable now so naturally I'll like the old stuff more.
>>269205310well you and i both know that /a/ is not a good place to find obscure anime for the most part they always suggest the same stuff over and over
>>269205378>obscure animeI'm not even all THAT into anime, and I've watched sacred blacksmith. it's not obscure, it's just bad so nobody talks about it. which is my point. you haven't seen most of the anime/media from the 90s. you probably haven't even seen 2% of the anime from that decade. You are just demonstrating survivorship bias by saying>the average anime that I see from the 90s is better than the median anime today.
>>269188782Anime in the 90s was hip because they were le edgy cartoons with titties and goreAnime now is just CGDCT Moeslop and that stupid fucking Deer anime
>>269205524>I'm not even all THAT into anime, and I've watched sacred blacksmith. it's not obscurethat proves my point about /a/
>>269205581yeah, you haven't watched it, have you? so you don't have the perspective necessary to say one time was better than another in anime.
>>26920560890s 80s was better, cope faggot
>>269188782I dunno, but as a 90's kid, anime is WAY easier to get a hold of now compared to back then. So it's hard to say because my 90's anime was blocked/gate kept by american TV fuckheads and I am too lazy to try to dig up old shows to see if they were better/worse. Plus all the old shit was in SD, and we are in the HD age. Shit is just better. >>269189329This. You got like two shonen shows and you had to like them, or else you had no anime to watch.
>>269205683keep screeching, survivorship-bias-kun(tard).
>>269205608im not saying there are no good anime past 2000s i would go as far as saying that up to the mid 2000s there were good animes too, but 2010s and up its all very generic looking, especially the art style
>>269204228That's a weak bait.
>>269205310And why would anyone recommend Seiken no Blacksmith? Have you gone insane? Also /a/ is not /wsr/
>>269205542Nokotan is just an Excel Saga like anime you stupid zoomer.
I can't even watch modern anime, it's just too different.
>>269206227Is that considered the worst anime of the 2000s or something?
>>269206411No but it's just bad, a bad adaptation that never had a continuation, what kind of terrorist would recommend that?
seems like someone got mad at the mention of fujo anime? despite being /a/ content.
>>269205227Sacred Blacksmith is actually pretty good and is one of the most pointlessly hated series I've ever seen. However the manga and LN are better in every way.
>>269188782Cel-shading is very nice and of course the plots tended to be a bit more honest. But more importantly, I think there were a few character designers in the 90s who were just fucking legendary. And they happened to get a lot of work on a lot of good projects, and nobody since then has recaptured the same style.
>>269204527>he was born last millennium lol boomer
>>269205310I like that series, but I don't talk about it or bring it up anymore because I despise the discourse surrounding it.
>>269207607Does anyone have the webm? You know the one.
>>269188782>>269198738God I remember Naga awakened my fetish for huge breasted women. That scene of those tits pushing Naga off of the cliff made me coom buckets as a kid!
>>269207083Ashita no Joe was peak fujo anime.I see why so many mangakas reference it decades later. (To make their wives happy)
>>269207083Unironically Blazing Transfer Student should get a remake.
>>269198439Worst b8 I've ever read.
>>269203931Lodoss War is shit.
>>269207793Someone mentioned rayearth was a meccha anime, the other said is a shoujo anime, then said "if a fujo anime has the best fanservice of modern anime that doesn't stop making it a fujo anime, no matter the slutty girls flashing panties or the naked girls in the end is still an anime aimed at fukoshi" referencing to project k and posting pics of K.
>>269188782Anime in the 80's and 90's are great because the economy was great. The "goodness" of something will always be tied with the economy and the society's reaction to the economy
>>269209995Anon, the 90s were the beginning of the Lost Decades.
>>269210036They won't feel the pain till like, late 90's. That's the beginning of the end. Things just don't become shit overnight.
I love Naga
>>269205524>it's not obscure, it's just bad so nobody talks about it. Nice confirmation bias. Nobody is talking about it because it aired 15 years ago and is not getting new content and was not super popular to begin with to get constant threads. Your opinion of it has nothing to do with that.
>>269192121Infinite Ryvius is so based and underrated I cant fathom people born after 2000 not watching it
>>269210094I like her sister better.
Lina Inverse!
>>269188828fpwp>>269198439spotted the tranny>>269203170Sure thing, the spinning rotation cause the files to lose bytes. This is why your mp3s sound horrible now, they lost bit by bit every rotation that was made. Real thing, happened many times, all the time.>>269205542>t. normie
>>269192121That one, never. Throughout the whole runtime I expected another Banner of the Stars but I got that.
I loved the 90s
>>269199243I wish in TV they kept Lina's outfit as it was in the movies and I guess novels too. I guess the pink/yellow one is very iconic but the original looks much better.
Trying to get new stuff as a poor kid in Italy was hell, especially when all I had were public channels, MTV aired weekly anime for a period and it was where I had seen Trigun, Escaflowne, Evangelion, Excel Saga and Cowboy Bebop.Manga on the other hand, was a 100 times better than today because it was priced for kids and not manchildren like today>1 JoJo volume in 99' was 2500 lire, basically 1.30 USD>Nausicaa in sepia color full size was 9 euro a volume, a steal compared to today>Dynamic Pro big tankobon were €4.50But anime today is so much more convenient, just sad about fansubs being dead.
90s was more experimental and open to nudity in most shows
>>269205227Patently false for films. The average production today looks and sounds like it was filmed on a fucking phone, and written by a spastic retard with adhd. Even a shitty Wayans comedy from the 90s looks better than any single amazon prime/netflix production because it has an actual director of photography, cameramen, pros and shit.Or take horror movies, there hasn't been a single horror movie in the 2010s or 2020s on the same level of Pumpkin Head or even Candyman, which were considered funny schlock when they released, but at least they look like FILMS and not iphone videos.
I do miss the formula of a lot of adventure shows back then. You'd have a third of the series or so being more stand alone set up and episodic as it established the world and premise and then move into the more "serious" plot gradually before going full speed near the end.
>>269212482>. Even a shitty Wayans comedy from the 90s looks better than any single amazon prime/netflix production because it has an actual director of photography, cameramen, pros and shit.Good lord how depressing. I just want my movies to look like movies again.
>>269212366>2001Sorry bro, Angel Blade may be peak Obari but it isn't 90s.
>>269212630Angel Blade was just taking stuff he already learned from Gowcaizer
>>269188782better because less westoid influence, look at how much pseudo anime bullshit netflix and disney keep trying to pump out now.
>>269213113>better because less westoid influence,This is actually the funny thing. A lot of series had a lot of western influences. Fantasy and Sci fi especially were taking a lot of cues from western media. Action series too like Gunsmith Cats and Cowboy Bebop were pure western action movies. The big difference is that anime creators back then knew how to look for other influences to make their works more interesting. If anything the 2000s is where anime started to become way to insular and self referential.
>>269213189america has almost flatlined culturally and yet they're dipping their hands deeper into anime, they're going to ruin it.
>>269213247>they're going to ruin it.I have 3 words for you: Crunchyroll, Netflix, Fortnite.
I think that’s a pretty subjective question. The three things I love about the 90’s:1. My favorite era of character designs in anime. All eras are a spectrum but the aesthetic sensibilities of the time are my preference.2. Cel is my preferred technology and the 90’s was where the bar was set the highest for it (good and bad shit came out in every decade but the 90’s really took strides in giving form to drawings.)3. It’s the era with my favorite otaku sensibility. What got the scene excited is what gets me the most excited. Y2K was a sudden shift and I have appreciation for that sensibility as well, but 90’s is where my otaku heart burns the brightest.
>>269212657The only complaint i have with obari is these girls could literally palm a basketball.
>>269212630I'm just posting it because you see her asshole.
I love Ruin Explorers.
>>269190923The absolute lowest of the low is found in 99-03 during the birth of digital. Explosive growth led to a lot of unique projects, almost a mini generation, but the worst of this era is appalling.
>>269213247I don't disagree. The current state of western cinema is a joke. But my point was still that anime was better when it was looking outside of anime. Anime was best when it was taking what was cool about the west and mixing it with the eastern flair that was different from what we were used to.
>>269210142?It's just Ideon or Lord of the Flies but with an infinitely less interesting scenario
>>269203366I miss 90’s anime girls. Their ornate eyes, their sharp noses, their thin, almost alien bodies.Modern anime girls are cute but they feel too soft, they don’t inspire me as much.
>>269213689Vifam.
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>>269205792what I'm saying is that you haven't watched most anime before 2010 and that all the generic, poorly animated garbage has been left in the dustbin. you are here to watch todays garbo, you weren't there to watch the 90's garbo. also I bet there were many anime from pre 2000 that were never translated to any degree and have no meaningful presence beyond Japanese-language-only searches.
>>269191977Couldn't possibly force myself to finish this today (yukinari is too much of a wuss even if he had a good reason) but Girls Bravo had some fine fanservice especially from Kirie.
>>269210127people still make threads about Haruhi and Death note, which are both dead as doornails and even older. Are you new to anime or something?
>>269206227why would anyone talk about a crap series from the 1990's? that's my point, bozo.
>>269207149>Sacred Blacksmith is actually pretty goodit took them like 9 episodes to make any of the characters not absolutely revolting to watch about. if it had a second season by the same people, it probably would have gotten above 5/10.
>>269213639Why is this written in the past tense? Many anime originals are still inspired by outside media. A recent example is Metallic Rouge, an anime very obviously inspired by 20th century western sci-fi literature.
>>269213989>Haruhi>Death Note>not super popular to begin withI dunno are you?
>>269204566I meant more like Darker than black, Black Lagoon, Baccano, Death Note, GiTS, Champloo, Afro Samurai. You know the type. Im not saying exact year, just the time when stuff like this was fairly common and it felt right if you grew up with anime
>>269213989Not that anon but>not getting new contentdoes not apply to Haruhi or Death Note. Literally yesterday new Haruhi merchandise was announced while Death Note has whatever the fuck this shit is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du9Zuw-WZZw
>>269214002Some people like the feeling of unearthing some absolute fucking garbage and dunking on it.
>>269190404DBZ TrigunSailor MoonCardcaptor SakuraOutlaw StarGundam WingExcel Saga
>>269214185>bunch of niwaka shit with little in common with each other (baccano is "slower paced"?) released over a 12 year spanlol
>>269214208>merchandiseI don't think that really riles up most anime fans. to the degree that, I dunno, a new season, movie or spinoff would. I didn't see any threads discussing the new merch, just usual discussion/shit post threads. >>269214129so what you are saying is that animes that aren't super popular are just forgotten about?
>>269190404I Really wanted to name 90s anime that did not air on Toonami, but Tenchi Muyo only aired on it ONCE and CENSORED so it counts and it is my favorite anime/manga series.Tenchi Muyo (OVA/Universe)Slayers (OVA/anime)El Hazard (OVA/anime)Dominion Tank Police (OVA)Battle Athletes (OVA)
>>269214641One of the neat things about anime back then was a lot of it came down to self discovery. Oh there was a lot of more popular stuff and shows that aired on TV but it also feels like everyone had at least one OVA or Tape of episodes that only they gave a crap about.
>>269213619Refined tastes, I should had added that to my list.
>>269190404Virus Buster SergeBetterman 97Metal Fighter MikuThe Irresponsible Captain TylorKodomo no Omocha
>>269214918OVA were just like light novels; you had to wade through hundreds of piles of pure shit to find a single mediocre one.
>>269202351Gunsmith Cats* forgot one.
>>269214890I'm not even the guy you originally replied to, I just found your implication that Haruhi and Death Note weren't popular was very silly.But yeah generally if something wasn't popular when it came out, isn't getting any new content and would be almost old enough to post here if it were a person, you aren't going to see it get discussed all that often. That doesn't mean that it was bad. Lots of good stuff never gets on a level of popularity to have constant discussion years and years later.
>>269215020You can say that about any media based hobby. You need to read a 100 bad books to find the ones you love. Watch 100 shows to find one you like. People weren't afraid to actually engage with their hobbies back then even if it meant sitting through a dud or a dozen. Now you got people who only want to watch the most commonly accepted top 10 best ever popular list of shows and movies and as a result they have no sense of taste of their own. Nobody can even really tell you why anything like or don't is good or bad. They just go with the popular opinion. You see it all the time with people crying about wasting their time.
>>269202632Cardcaptor Sakura looks like a digital anime
>>269215070Nadia and Fatal Fury too..shit I forgot those lol
>>269215070Did you by chance buy that BD release a couple years back?
>>269215241No I got the DVD for 5 bucks at a local store which honestly isn't that different and has warmer colors.
>>269188782far far superior
>>269188782Only problem with 90's anime is all these fake wannabe retro fans that just praise everything and don't even watch lot of it or any of it at all, there's lot of shit old anime even if old anime better and they have this annoying complex about them like Kenny Lauderdale fuck that guy.
>>269214641The few chapters of the manga that got translated were pretty cool. It's a shame about the anime.
>>269215147Don't agree with this at all. There are many factors which contribute to what I perceive as low quality unique to the OVA & LN formats which result in it being of lower quality than most other media based hobbies.
>>269215241I sadly didn't even know it was available till long after it was out of stock.
>>269215372This, i cant tell you how manny times i have watched some obscure OVA or show that nobody ever talks about and went "wow that was pretty good".All these retards that say that there used to be mostly bad shows that are just as garbage as todays anime havent went even through 5% of what is out there.They merely parrot what they have heard and they have watched like maybe a few classic shows and 5 good ovas and one bad one and now they are experts.Kenny is just a massive faggot like all e-celb anitubers so no surprise there.
>>269215514Speaking of e-celeb faggots lot of these newer fans hate Bennett The Sage because he shit on lot of old anime which yes he was retarded but at least he was honest and knew lot of these throwaway ovas and such are shit like you can tell he not fake ass fan even with his shitty videos and opinions. Not being like Kenny and the like OH THIS IS OBSCURE NO ONE KNOWS THAT ISN'T COOL LOST VHS like shut the fuck up just talk normal.
>>269215372>>269215514This Kenny Lauderdale slander is needless and targeted out of spite!
>>269215654Last I checked opinions (unpopular or not) are allowed.
>>269215661Kenny a piece of shit, who own parents kicked him out of their lake house.
>>269215831oof
>>269215654Idk why you kids care about ecelebsIf you hate the guy stop watching his videos and thinking about him
>>269215846I don't feel like digging the tweets out, if didn't delete them already but yes.>>269215883I don't watch him, just people like that annoy me because ruins lot of discussion.
>>269215883no you dont understand!this nobody talked shit about my favorite thing!I need to cope and seethe!
>>269215654I cannot bring myself to fully hate a man that likes the sukeban subgenre.
>>269215914Why are you reading the Twitter of someone you don't even like?
>>269215991I like sukeban but still hate Kenny, I hope the Sukeban Deka manga gets an official release one day which I prefer over love action stuff also OVA is great.
>>269216117It popped up on me ages ago, he always shows up on my damn feed.
>>269216177It only recommends stuff based on what you like/follow. Either block him or stop liking/following other ecelebs. I swear ever social media user is a fucking idiot.
Spoonfeed me on the Kenny lore, I'm a retarded boomer who doesn't know how to use computers
>>269216192Twitter always gives you retarded shit so I'm use to it, only use it for art.
>>269216227Faggot YouTuber who makes a big deal about anime being RARE AND LOST AND VHS OOH but I guess he better than that one furry who talks about old anime I see pop up here and there, KaiserBeamz I think their name. Anime YouTubers fucking suck except Bdubs: https://youtu.be/WK267JQ_RSU pure kino.
>>269216227retard zoomers on xhitter take sarcasm at face value and deem it as factsthe end
>>269188782Better. That's why they keep remaking and milking them.
>>269216323By that logic 70s anime are even better, no?
>>269216351NTA but I will fight on the fact Ashita no Joe has better characters and storytelling than any single spokon or shonen today. Not a single MC like Joe Yabuki, and shonen rivals wish they were as cool as Rikishi Tooru.
>>269216484True, but the bar is so low for shounenshit this hardly means anything.
>>269216351I mean yeah you sure could make that logic. Only proving that "old thing is better" because it stands the test of time by staying relevant. Gundam is one of the oldest running anime franchises of all time. Macross right behind it both of which have multiple reinteractions and adaptations.
>>269188782It was far less formulaic than today, with having more of an identity than 80s anime. It's the golden age. Not as self-referential and overdosing in their own tropes again and again as today's anime, nor as experimental or clumsy as what came before.The time when experimentation was still allowed while having enough of a mastery and identity to create something good. Nowadays you've got checklists, not anime. Even the people who try to break the mold only add more boxes to the checklist, without ever questioning if there is purpose to its existence.90s anime have a kind of... refreshing innocence to it when viewed by today's lens.But really, depending on precursors and late bloomers, it's more of a late 80s early 2000s period.
>>269216723>Not as self-referential and overdosing in their own tropes again and again as today's animeWhat did she mean by this?
>>269214030The characters were fine from the start.
>>269202545This
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Every day I wish for an /ar/ board to find salvation from old good new bad threads
>>269216919MC was literally pathetic. how the fuck did she graduate knight school? wtf did her parents do?
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>>269218451>>269219716SEXO
>>269190404pokemon
>>269218904Cecily was new to being a knight and had never been in a real fight before, that was made clear in the first 10 seconds. She had some training but that doesn't really prepare you for real fights, or for killing. The anime did downgrade her fighting ability a bit in the early episodes compared to the original but she started to improve after a few episodes.And there's nothing pathetic about a character who refuses to run away from a fight even though she is outmatched because of a strong sense of duty towards protecting her city.Anyway, I can tell your opinion is the usual bullshit I see from shonentards who hate "pathetic" characters who don't win fights every time. People like you are why OP MCs are so common in anime.
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>>269188782They look pretty good in that image.
>Slayers thread
>>269222335good
>>269188782Much better, but the 80's (and earlier) also had some great anime that should not be passed up on. I think it's debatable if the 80's or 90's had better anime. Don't skip the 70's, either. The 70's had some truly great shows, albeit, there was a smaller amount of anime being made at that time. Because of that, I don't think that anybody would debate that the 70's was the best for anime. Between the 80's and the 90's, I'd probably lean towards saying that the 80's was better, if it weren't for Evangelion and a handful of others... Many of the shows that people associate with the 90's in America (such as Dragonball Z) actually began airing in Japan in the late 80's. There's also the matter that the 80's contains absolutely no digital animation, whereas the late 90's is rife with it. Of course, for some people, this is is not a problem... Almost everything was still being hand-drawn in the 90's, even if it was being animated differently. But I think this represents the beginning of a period of significant decline in animation... It's questionable how many people are still alive that can even use these traditional techniques.
>>269221434>And there's nothing pathetic about a character who refuses to run away from a fight even though she is outmatched because of a strong sense of duty towards protecting her city. it's pathetic that you have to have your ass beat by a random drunk instead of dedicating yourself to your craft like a mature person WHEN YOUR FUCKING CRAFT IS LETHAL COMBATIt's like saying >I'm gonna be a security guard!!1!1!and buying a Taurus, never practicing drawing it from a holster, then going to guard a bank with your fucking earbuds in noise cancelling mode. she's patheticliterally worthless and didn't take her work seriously. the show did have nipples though, so I figure that would get it a pass nowadays on /a/.
Modern anime "look better" but lack the soul character designs of older anime
Wew, a whole thread of people whining aimlessly.
>>26918878290' and modern both have slop, good anime and anime that was just following a trend. I like the aesthetics and trends of the 90' more than the modern ones. Although animation is far better now than back then.
>>269216752If you're doing an fantasy anime today you need the sexy elf, the big breasted sister, the onee sama, the mc self insert, and the demon king. In a setting that is vaguely Dragon Quest inspired. Slaves are optional (except in Isekai, where they are mandatory). It's creatively bankrupt. Made by three generations of Otakus that taught a fourth generation of terminally ill Otakus how to pander to a fifth generation of even terminally iller always online Otakus. We're going down the drain. Look at the next [litrpg] [isekai] [harem] [godly protag] anime.Even when there is someone trying to subvert a genre, like, say, Urobutcher and Madoka, there is still the expectation that the genre exists. The tropes must be followed, even if only to subverts them. It's stall. Creating new stuff can only be done by adding to the old stuff.90s anime just did whatever. If it was fantasy inspired, it was literally whatever took their fancy. Far less constrained. More refreshing. When it does start to pull on tropes that were starting to identify the genre, like tsundere or whatever, it is still refreshingly done because those were in the process of proper codification, and often done in ways successors never would. Or will, now.
>>269226595Old anime certainly didn't ignore its fair share of cliches but I swear it's like newer stuff openly flaunts it. You would have characters who fit the profile of a tsundere but that was just her personality and nobody would pause to point out LOOK SHE'S A TSUNDERE!
>>269224816What in the fuck are you babbling on about? She clearly took her work seriously but was unprepared for reality. It doesn't matter how much training you do if you don't have actual experience. The veteran she was fighting was twice her size also, she could have just ran away until other knights showed up but didn't. That's not pathetic at all, though it was probably foolish. It's sounds like you're just reaching for a reason to hate her though.
>>269226990not really, she's a bad character. She goes >la la la, someone gave me a sword, I'm here to save the day!because she's stupid, unskilled, untrained and unserious. she is so bad they had to give her a magic sword to not be worthless. >except for the sword forded ten birrion time made by spikey-haired moody-boy.
>>269226595This is a fantasy anime based on Japanese folklore airing right now.https://youtu.be/lCY7GwAQXfs?feature=sharedWhere are the elves, big titties, sluts, self-insert, maou, or Dragon Quest inspirations? Alternatively, why doesn't this count as fantasy? Why are you only giving consideration to light novel adaptations when it comes to what constitutes as today's anime?
90's were the peak of anime because I grew up with them. Everyone born after me has shit taste and is objectively wrong.Not being ironic btw.
>>269227554Early story incompetence doesn't make a character bad, especially when they show improvement over the series. There's nothing to suggest she was unserious, you're just reaching there.They had to give her a magic sword to be able to fight demons and monsters, and other magic sword users. Even experienced knights with normal swords have a hard time handling those, and Luke usually has to use his magic katana forging ability as well.That said, a lot of these scenes were changed in the anime adaptation, because she displayed more skill initially in the manga and LN. You're still blowing this way out of proportion though.
>>2692163511979 Cyborg 009 is kinda weird in that it's actually a sequel, but not to the 60s anime.
