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homura did everything wrong
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>>269668560
Is loving Madoker wrong?
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>>269668560
Yet a decade later still no one can name a single specific thing she did wrong.
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>>269670024
Being a lame pretentious autist.
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>>269668560
>>269670024
Is this anime good? Also, this girl is hot, but is she ok in the second webm? She is right?
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>>269668560
Her character was good in the anime, they ruined her in the movie.
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>>269670236
Single digit IQ take
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>>269670159
>but is she ok in the second webm? She is right?
At that moment she is happier and more mentally stable than she's ever been at any point in the last 12 years. Granted, it's not a particularly high bar to reach, but still.
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total fake madoka fan death
kaiten can't come quickly enough
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>>269670462
Obviously, she's a woman.
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>>269670519
Real or fake, Madoka fans are fags and have been for fourteen years. If you want to hang with a pretentious group of autistic yurifags who think they're better than everyone else because of someone else's drawings and writing in the modern day you're looking for Tkmiz threads.
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>>269670884
Im a fag for liking a great show? Ok, retard
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>>269670884
Faggot.
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>>269670236
Another pleb filtered by Rebellion
The anime was a shit ending for Homura
>tried her hardest
>failed at everything
>couldn't even be with Madoka who stopped existing
Rebellion corrected all of that
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>>269672998
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>>269672998
Madoromantic.
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>>269670024
Luring the other characters in her labyrinth and trapping them while wiping their memories was wrong.
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>>269675977
I want her to do it to me tho its not wrong
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>>269670301
>take
Go back to twitter
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>>269670884
>Madoka fans
>yurifags
That's like saying Pokemon fans are furries. Yurifags latch onto Madoka, we don't like them either.
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>>269668560
But for the right reasons.
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>>269676051
Shit, maybe I overestimated your IQ
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im so sick of feeling sick
hom
hom
ill hang on for you homura
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bump for homura!
you are the shining light that keeps the darkness away
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This reminded me of madoka and the one scene where homura first gets saved by mami and madoka
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>>269676370
That wasn't me.
But using twitter buzzwords here will never be acceptable no matter how hard you try to force it. You can take back your "mids" and "peaks" as well.
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>>269679165
That arc de triomphe witch was a pain to beat in the PSP game don't remind me
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>>269673711
>The anime was a shit ending for Homura
Wow, almost like that was the point
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>>269673711
>Homura's entire motivation was wanting to prevent Madoka from contracting so she wouldn't turn into a witch
>Ends with witches no longer existing and Madoka never turning into one
>This somehow doesn't align with Homura's motivation
Rebellion had her change her mind and change her motivations as a result, but in the context of the series that was a good ending for her as well
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>>269679579
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did the movie ever drop?
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>>269679802
>reddit filename
There, called
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homura's story will end with a madokami's arrow stuck in her heart
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>>269680086
Hello, Tabbender. Where's your avatar?
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i dont want to live like this but if i die i might never get to see homura again
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>>269680382
ACK?
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>>269670024
Are you even serious? Trying to stop someone going for his dreams just for love is top selfishness. Madoka just wanted to help others to stop feeling like a burden in all timelines.
>I want to protect her
Who the fuck asked your protection, homora?
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>>269679579
The motivation is to prevent her death. This isn't hard to figure out, there's an entire episode dedicated to Homura's motives.
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>>269680651
everything is just in the name of love
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>>269668560
>>269670024
She didn't get consent but mind raped Madoka instead. That's not how a best friend should act.
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>>269680651
>Madoka just wanted to help others to stop feeling like a burden in all timelines
There are way healthier paths to self-fulfilment than literally throwing your life away for a bunch of strangers.
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>>269680756
It was to prevent her witching out (as per her own request), a fate worse than death
She actually killed her right after accepting to take on that task
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>>269680861
homura could rape me in any ways she wants
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>>269680886
Anon the wish was made to be able to save Madoka after Homura watched her die. Preventing her from making a contract gets added on due to Madoka requesting it and the fact that it means Madoka will inevitably die even if they survive the fight against Walpurgisnacht.
Why do you think Homura protests against Madoka's erasure in episode 12, and Rebellion focuses on Homura's unhappiness at this fact
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IM GETTING TIRED OF YOU BULLSHIT HOMURA
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>>269680861
Problem is, if she asked for consent, she wouldn't receive it. Madoka is genuinely too broken of an individual to care about her own suffering as long as she thinks she's doing something "useful". If Homura wanted to create an environment where Madoka could grow out of this mindset she had to create it against Madoka's will.
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>>269669905
yeah
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>>269680993
Originally her wish was to be the one to protect Madoka, to redo their first meeting. She did not know the truth about the incubators at all at that point.
Then when she learned about it she tried to warn Madoka.
And then Madoka asked her to prevent her from contracting so she wouldn’t turn into a witch, which is when she started trying to prevent the contract.
Madoka eventually turning into a witch was always what made her contracting bad in Homura’s eyes.
Nos sure, Madoka did get fucked over at the end, she will be spending all eternity alone. But she didn’t turn into a witch, in that way it’s a resolution.
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>>269680782
And love is not a good reason, is just an emotion that can lead to fuck up everything.

>>269680885
>There are way healthier paths to self-fulfilment than literally throwing your life away for a bunch of strangers.
Anon remember that madoka had no talents, she said more that one time that she would end up being a burden for others.

Madoka would be happy killing for others, but thanks to stupid homura choosing just to be a magical girl would be hypocritical, she in the last timelines had the chance to make changes that no one else could make in the world, she was like almost forced to take that path of being the LOC.
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>>269669905
If you interpret Homura as a homosexual then that’s at least one thing she did wrong.
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>>269681178
*killing witches
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>>269681164
You can't seriously be arguing that Homura was fine with Madoka's death simply because it didn't involve becoming a Witch.
The point of episode 10 is to show that Homura's motivation is stop Madoka's seemingly inevitable death from occurring.
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>>269680651
>everyone: Madoka, you're such an amazing friend and kind person, you never fail to brighten our day, world would be a much worse place without you in it
>Madoka: I'm a complete waste of space, my friends barely tolerate my existence, I can obtain value only through death
Unironically, what the fuck was her problem?
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>>269681287
> You can't seriously be arguing that Homura was fine with Madoka's death
No, indeed I am not.
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>>269681380
Then I don't know what you're arguing because the show makes it clear that preventing Madoka's death is Homura's goal. There is no reason for her to be happy with Madoka's erasure, and the only reason it's not addressed in the show is because it ends on the same episode.
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>>269681178
>madoka had no talents, she said more that one time that she would end up being a burden for others.
>really kind and empathetic
>good with kids and animals
>canonically a good cook
>pretty good at drawing
>the only weak subject is English
>and she's only 14
Madoka isn't supposed to be a reliable narrator. If anything, she's ahead of the curve for her age group.
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>>269681106
>Madoka is genuinely too broken
Too based. fixd that.
>image
That happened in homura imagination btw, is what homura told to herself in her head to justify her actions.
>>269681308
That "everyone" is headcanon, she received that from just her family and friends, they were very few people.
Doing the best with what you have is not a problem dude, she reached acceptation and maturity before others and did the what she needed to do according to her ideals. The problem is homura and the time reset that put her in a difficult situation.
>Anons defending homura
What is happening in this world...
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>>269681439
No, her goal is to prevent Madoka witching out.
Obviously she didn’t consider something like the ending happening. But it’s a good ending for basically anyone but Madoka herself, and even for Madoka, it was still better than witching out. And Homura knew this.
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>>269681644
Homu white knights have always been a thing
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>>269681700
Except Homura never cared about anyone but Madoka, and it's super fucking questionable if her suffering as LoC is actually lesser than her suffering as Gretchen.
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>>269681644
So when Urobuchi follows up on Madoka's isolation being bad, just like it is for every other character, are you going to think it's bad writing?
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>>269681842
She literally killed her own witch at the end so it’s safe to assume it was in her interest to do so.
Her suffering as LoC is literally just loneliness, eternal loneliness sure, but being a witch is much worse.
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>>269681573
Just some hours away and anons became retarded!
>really kind and empathetic
>good with kids and animals
Not talents.
>canonically a good cook
Being able to cook something delicious is not a talent, i have seen a lot of girls cooking something at age 14 but none of them want to be chef.
>pretty good at drawing
Her drawings were average at best, but take into account that she was a woman and drawing seems easier for them at the beginning, improving your drawing from average to decent is another thing.
>the only weak subject is English
She was average at everything else said by her.
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>>269681953
She jinxed Mami with that small neck
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>>269681644
>did the what she needed to do according to her ideals
And her ideals and decisions are a product of her broken personality that needs fixing and not enabling.
Justifying Madoka's behavior is like justifying Shirou at tbe start of FSN, except Shirou at least had an excuse in the form of PTSD.
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>>269681910
>So when Urobuchi follows up on Madoka's isolation being bad, just like it is for every other character, are you going to think it's bad writing?
It was already said that isolation is bad, that is something even madoka knows when she agreed with mami that she accepted a fate worse than dead. That shows how selfless and admirable is madoka, truly the best magical girl.
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>>269668560
I wish I could erase the movie. They ruined Homura as character.
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>>269681953
So what you're saying she's average at worst and not actually a horrible drain on society with no redeeming qualities
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>>269682021
>And her ideals and decisions are a product of her broken personality that needs fixing and not enabling.
I'd agree with you if everyone was born equal in talents, but no, madoka has no redeeming qualities but is not the worst either. Is just life bro, life is unfair. Madoka is just someone who did the best with what she had.
The problem is homura who did this worse with the reset.
>>269682104
She knew she would be a drain by being a burden to others.
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>>269681911
>safe to assume it was in her interest to do so
It's safe to assume it was in the interest of other magical girls, not Madoka
It's not clear if witches are normaly aware that they're witches, so the suffering for the involved girl might actually be minimal. LoC, on the other hand, is perfectly aware about everything that's happening, and she has to literally take on herself girls' suffering and curses in order to purify them. Loneliness is certainly not the only thing she suffers from.
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>>269682349
Witches are in a state of constant suffering, this is canon, otherwise Kyouko’s sacrifice would have been meaningless.
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>>269682472
Also, the curses get reborn as Wraiths. I don’t think Madoka enduring them herself was ever stated in any way that was meant to be taken literally.
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>>269682286
>madoka has no redeeming qualities
...according exclusively to Madoka herself. It's not an objective truth, it's a mindset problem that she had to grow out of and not embrace.
And if she has no redeeming qualities, why did Homura consider her a living goddess and the rest of humanity barely worthy to worship the ground she walks upon?
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>>269681106
Homura is imposing her values on Madoka because she thinks that's what's best for her. This is a morally bad thing to do. You can't rescue someone against their consent if you know they would not give it if they had the opportunity to.
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>>269682526
Madoka says she'll endure their burden in episode 12. I'm not sure why you wouldn't take her literally
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>>269668560
She was saving Madoka from more eventually Incubator horseshit what's the problem
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>>269682627
>...according exclusively to Madoka herself. It's not an objective truth, it's a mindset problem that she had to grow out of and not embrace.
It's not a mindset when reality tells you otherwise, that mindset still will be true until is shown otherwise in the movie or anime.
>And if she has no redeeming qualities, why did Homura consider her a living goddess and the rest of humanity barely worthy to worship the ground she walks upon?
Because she was obsessive and had mentall illness? It's homura who needs go to therapy.

>>269681744
Yes, homura is the most popular character of madoka magica. What is not necessarily good.
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>>269682472
>Witches are in a state of constant suffering
[citation needed]
The only witch pov we had is Homura, and she didn't start suffering until she discovered that she was the witch
>Kyouko’s sacrifice would have been meaningless
Kyouko's sacrifice was about preventing Sayaka from killing innocent civilians and not allowing her to remain alone anymore. Whether or not Sayaka's witch was suffering is completely irrelevant.
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>>269682861
*eventual
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>>269682866
No, she doesn't have a mental illness. She spent Madokami know how long in a hospital and now that she finally made a friend, that very friend became the most important person to her.
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>>269682866
>when reality tells you otherwise
What reality? You said yourself that Madoka is average at worst. What makes you think that she would be a burden on society when she grows up?
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>>269682978
NTmA, but she wouldn't be a burden. She may end up as someone the little to no one knows, but to be a burden is pretty much unlikely.
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>>269682859
It’s kind of contradicted by the fact that Homura doesn’t bring it up as a downside, and the curses being reborn as wraiths rather than erased (which they would have been if it was just Madoka bearing them)

>>269682876
Kyouko literally tells Sayaka she doesn’t have to suffer anymore before killing her, no it wasn’t only about "preventing her from killing civilians" something that she never mentions…
Also the way a witch works is it basically lives an endless cope for the situation that made the girl witch out, obviously that’s not a happy or healthy way to live
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>>269679805
"Winter 2024"
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>>269682970
The only way you would interpret Homura as having a mental illness is if you’re a yurifag.
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>>269683063
The curses being reborn as Wraiths is never stated, that's just a headcanon. It also shits on Madoka's wish, as ultimately it means that the despair of magical girls is still harming others.
It makes far more sense to take it as it's shown; Madoka takes in their despair and Wraiths form from the general pool of humanities negative emotions.
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>>269683063
>Kyouko literally tells Sayaka she doesn’t have to suffer anymore
She obviously meant it in general sense, Sayaka's life as magical girl was full of suffering even before she turned into a witch. And how the fuck would Kyouko know if witches suffer or not?
>obviously that’s not a happy or healthy way to live
Bad and unhealthy coping mechanisms are better than no coping mechanisms. Witches aren't happy, but it's still better than being pumped with despair of dying magical girls 24/7
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>>269683123
>The curses being reborn as Wraiths is never stated
What? It's stated directly by Homura at the end after her conversation with Kyubey.
>it means that the despair of magical girls is still harming others
Yes but it's not them suffering as witches. Madoka never said she would erase all the suffering in the world, just save magical girls
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>>269682970
And is normal for you to make a wish like hers for a girl who you knew only some weeks ago?
What about respecting the last will of your friend?
>>269682978
I said average at best. Read above.
We don't know about the future anon, she could find her talent and start dropping her self-hate. But in the current state she see herself as a burden to society, and will keep it until is shown otherwise. She is doing everything right so far.
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>>269683305
>She obviously meant it in general sense
But it makes no sense for her to say so if Sayaka isn't suffering as a witch.
>Bad and unhealthy coping mechanisms are better than no coping mechanisms
No, they aren't. You're still suffering on the inside, the point of a coping mechanism is that you don't even believe it yourself.
> being pumped with despair of dying magical girls 24/7
That likely never happened. See >>269683063 >>269683315
The only downside that was stated for Madoka's wish is her spending an eternity alone. That's what Homura says will happen to her and why she opposed it (at least at first). She didn't mention her bearing the suffering of all magical girls, and said suffering was said to be reborn as wraiths
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>>269683315
No it's not. Homura says that the distortions of the world have changed form, and that the curses harbored by mankind still exist. This is different from a magical girls despair being purposefully reformed into a Wraith.
Part of Madoka's despair at the Witch revelation comes from the fact that it means that no matter what, a magical girl's wish and hope would cause harm to others. What your proposing is allowing the same thing to happen but in a different form.
Madoka outright saying she'll take on their despair lines up far better with my interpretation than yours, and doesn't contradict motives or statements.
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>>269683315
>>269683430
Madoka says "I'll bear the full, dreadful weight of all your karmic destinies."
This is a clear statement of taking on their burden, and fits with Mami describing it as an eternal fight.
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>>269683331
>she see herself as a burden to society
Which is the product of her fucked-up brain and not an objective reality. Again, she's average at worst, she can't be a burden on the society because the society fucking consists of people just like her. She needs a healthy environment to grow up, not a fucking encouragement.
It's like giving a drug addict all the hard drugs they want so they would overdose faster instead of sending them to rehab.
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>>269683331
Wouldn't it be the same for a cat, Madoka's first wish?
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>>269683430
Witches used to embody a magical girl's despair, and they were the ones bringing curses to mankind. Now these curses take the form of external entities that were never magical girls. No matter how you look at it, there is nothing for Madoka to suffer there.
>Part of Madoka's despair at the Witch revelation comes from the fact that it means that no matter what, a magical girl's wish and hope would cause harm to others
No, not really. She understands that this part is necessary for the balance of the universe, you can't just create hope out of nowhere without an equal amount of despair. What she didn't want is turn into a witch herself. Which is why that's what she asked Homura to prevent.

>>269683516
An eternal fight could also be refering to Madoka killing all the witches before they're even born for all eternity, and bearing the weight of their karmic destinies could simply refer to the fact that she sacrificed herself for them.
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>>269683583
You have a statement from Madoka herself confirming she'll take on their karmic burden, Madoka's request to Homura for the mercy kill is in part because of the fact that being a Witch will harm others, and Homura's talk about the Wraiths directly linking them to humanity as opposed to magical girls.
What your proposing simply ignores several pieces of characterization and evidence for something that is never actually stated by any character.
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>>269683684
>You have a statement from Madoka herself confirming she'll take on their karmic burden,
That statement was made before Madoka had the chance to consult with her lawyer.
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>>269683552
It's objective reality in the anime she live in.
>Again, she's average at worst, she can't be a burden on the society because the society fucking consists of people just like her.
No, most society consists of people with some talent even in blue collar jobs or manual labor.
You must be working a white collar job if you think most people don't have at least a good trait that allows them to get a job.
>>269683567
No, because animals are not to blame for their fate. On the other hand people have control in their destiny. I don't know how people is where you live, but where i live i have seen more people showing love to stray cats than hobos.
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>>269683684
>You have a statement from Madoka herself confirming she'll take on their karmic burden
Which i gave an explanation for
>Madoka's request to Homura for the mercy kill is in part because of the fact that being a Witch will harm others
But also because she didn't want to suffer as a witch
> Homura's talk about the Wraiths directly linking them to humanity as opposed to magical girls
Witches used to be the ones to give curses to humanity. Wraiths replaced witches, no matter how you look at it
Which is why in Kaiten there probably won't be any wraiths either since all the despair and curses is now beamed into Kyubey.
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>>269683744
Kyubey a shit anyway.

>>269683807
I would be an odd one. Still, Homura found that which is precious to her. To say she has a mental illness when she finally found some happiness is cruel.
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>>269683827
Your explanation was to simply say that bearing the karmic destinies meant something completely different from the context of Witches and karma it was made in. It's not a very convincing argument, especially when Madoka's following statement directly links it to the end of a magical girls life.
We know that it's likely there are Wraiths in Kaiten because the word appears on screen during the scene where the new girl jumps off the building, so your headcanon is already looking wrong.
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>>269683807
Anon, you're taking Madoka's words as an objective truth when she's supposed to be unreliable. She constantly compares herself to her friends and family, but what talent does Sayaka have? Or Hitomi? Or her father?
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>>269683931
>To say she has a mental illness when she finally found some happiness is cruel.
So to tell her the truth now is cruel? lmao ahaha Homura is the victim now. ahahha
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>>269683827
>>269684038
Actually, we know Wraiths still exist regardless of the Incubators taking in despair because Homura talks about destroying them at the end of Rebellion.
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>>269684038
To be fair, it's always been pretty unclear to me which way it is. I know Madoka bearing the curses of magical girls is widely accepted in the fandom but i always found it was pretty baseless and would kind of leave us to wonder what the fuck are wraiths then? If Madoka is bearing all the curses for herself there's no reason for wraiths to exist.

>>269684188
Yeah and that's another weird thing too. She talks about what they will do "after they've destroyed all the wraiths". What the fuck does that even mean? How could there be a finite amount of them? I always took that as just Rebellion being weird.
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>>269684063
No, you yourself said not everyone is able to change fate. If anything, you can sympathize with her
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>>269684042
>Anon, you're taking Madoka's words as an objective truth
Anon you have autism or this is a bait.
Let me explain you, when we talk about a character we need sources. What are the sources? What is said in the anime, what is shown in the anime and what is said by the character itself.
Madoka words can be taken as an objective truth because in the same anime is not show otherwise, her words being unreliable still is your headcanon. All her good traits just make her average at best >>269681953

>what talent does Sayaka have?
Sayaka is more sociable, more outgoing, and is more strong and tall than madoka. You confirm this when madoka put herself behind sayaka when she feels threatened by homura.
>Hitomi?
She has money and do some activities that rich people do. No need of talents with money.
>Or her father?
We don't know enough about her father, but he was able to have a family and a woman who keep him in the house. A chad.
Anyways i will not answer more to your bait.
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>>269684444
Nice quads!! but i obviously said that in the context of trying the best one can do. Homura can change small things like avoid making stupid wishes for stupid reasons. If madoka was a life-long friend i would have understood why she made her wish.
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>>269684477
Why do you act like an idiot about this topic of all things?
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>>269684764
You only know about me only in this specific topic.
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>>269684926
I just find it hard to believe that someone takes a 14 year old girl's evaluation of herself seriously, and then calls others autistic when they disagree
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>>269684477
The only autistic person here is you, if you take the the words of a character who's main trait is extreme self-doubt as an objective truth.
And Madoka being kind and empathetic isn't a talent, but Sayaka being more sociable and Hitomi being more rich is? What the fuck is these double standards? Why do you go through such insane mental gymnastics just to justify Madoka's self-image?
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>>269684926
What, are you going to pretend that you're actually fake madokAnon?
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>>269685040
>muh metaposting
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>>269684663
Except it's too late ad she is an mg. The isn't normal after every reset
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Dude, keep our names out of this.
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>>269685096
cute kyak
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>>269684959
If it coincides with what is shown, then is not autistic.
>>269684972
Ok, yes i mentioned some things that are not talent but sayaka being better physically is something that make her better than madoka.
Is a talent because sayaka got that thanks to genetics.
About hitomi, i never said that having money was a talent, it's just that she doesn't need talent with money. Stop projecting.
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>>269685179
Always cute.
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>>269685949
Truly the cutest.
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>>269668560
Looks like a nice videogame
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>>269670884
Idk man, we just like the fumo pics and anime lesbianism is hot
We - and by that I mean I - don't really think I'm better than anyone else
Might be a nice show, I never watched it
t./uhg/
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>>269668560
Romcomdoka
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>>269686218
based anime lesbianism enjoyer
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>>269686313
The intense heterosexual male desire to be part of a homusexual relationship.
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>>269686071
Kyouko is truly cute!

>>269686313
Is it time?
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>>269684477
Why though
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>>269683331
>And is normal for you to make a wish like hers for a girl who you knew only some weeks ago?
1 month and it was the best month Homura could ever ask for.
>What about respecting the last will of your friend?
Remember when Madoka herself told Homura not to let her contract?
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>witches are the embodiment of despair
>nooo they're not in a state of suffering
Jesas a what a retard.
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Hello, i don't remember when was the last time i was here, it feels like it was a week ago.
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Time to madoka posting i guess. And mami too
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>>269670462
Why lie?
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Reminder that Gen and Shinbo said that being a goddess was a fate too harsh for a 14 year old like Madoka and that Madoka wouldn't try to desperately escape Homura's world if she recovered her memories. Homura did nothing wrong is supported by canon
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>>269670024
She was gay
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>>269688328
Who's Jesas?
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Mami, she is the hero of mitakihara.
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>>269684243
>If Madoka is bearing all the curses for herself there's no reason for wraiths to exist
Wraiths exist because Madoka did nothing to directly oppose Kyubei and his system, and he is still capable of continuing his incubation plans
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>>269688439
But he's right. Devil Homura is more well-adjusted than both loop Homura and ribbon Homura.
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>>269688590
Mami looking pretty tasty there.

>>269688696
She was about to lose it because Madoka almost remembered who she was.
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>>269680389
I'm magical girl version madoka. I want to be LoC madoka but i need more karma.
Mami you are the best.
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>>269688867
it was for >>269688556
How i failed so hard lmao.
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>>269688696
She betrayed Madoka and trampled over her feelings which is the worst sin for Homura. She also gave up on ever being Madoka's friend again, which is why everything is cut in half in the epilogue. She fulfilled her wish to protect Madoka but not her desire to be with her.
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>>269689719
It was not completely a mistake i'm worried about something, perhaps i should not be worried.
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>>269688844
>She was about to lose it because Madoka almost remembered who she was
But Homura did manage to successfully seal her memories after all. And it's not like Madoka regaining powers is instant loss for her. Madokami is at worst of equal power to the Devil, so Homura could always attempt to split her again.
>>269689096
By well-adjusted I meant less her immediate feelings and more her general state of mind. From the Jungian perspective Devilmura is objectively at a higher stage of spiritual and psychological development than Coolmura.
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>>269689719
I don't know if it was him, but i'm a bit worried about that guy who write in german because he seems very depressive at times. I hope he keeps posting here, this is selfish but i consider his posts very important here. I don't think i could ever get along with him but I hope he is exaggerating and stays here a lot more time. Am i worrying too much?
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>>269689898
Yes, bit now Homura would have to deal with Sayaka who would most likely have regained her memories at the sight to Loc.

>>269689787
>>269690399
You are in the right. I hope he's okay too. He will make it with all of us. Hell, he's why i'm making attempts at german.
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>its another anons arguing about conflicting moral and ethical systems where concepts like "right" and "wrong" hold no meaning but insist things are right and wrong anyways episode
you're all fucking retards and everything worth doing gets worse every day because of it.
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>>269689898
>From the Jungian perspective Devilmura is objectively at a higher stage of spiritual and psychological development than Coolmura.
More or less. She didn't integrate her selves properly, she's not balanced and fulfilled. She worked with her unconscious during the movie, accepted her real desires, but is still miserable because her desires are in opposition to Madoka's, and she knows it. She hasn't gotten over her self loathing either, which is a fundamental part of Jung's individuation, acceptance of all the selves. Her self loathing comes from the fact that her value is tightly attached to her relationship with Madoka, something it's impossible to remove at this point because Homu is too obsessed with Madoka. The only way to fix that is to have Madoka tell Homu that she isn't a failure for not saving her, that she's strong and did her best alone against something much bigger than herself, karmic fate. And that she loves her and would never hate her.
As for Madoka, she needs to realize she's loved and accepted just the way she is and that sacrificing herself to be useful causes pain rather than good. Both homu and doka need to work on their personal issues together, ideally, since their relationship has put the entire universe in danger
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>>269690590
Sayak couldn't do shit to Homura when she was a magical girl, what could she possibly do to her when she became a literal Demiurge?
What a grand and intoxicating innocence!
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>>269690590
For me he is more respectable than any other usual poster here, that's why i have never tried to bother him, but it seems we can't do anything to cheer him up, at least i'm awful at doing that lmao, i hope he hear your good words
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>>269690835
Madokami will be at her side. Homura did clap Oktavia away. Maybe the witch has enough power when backed by LoC?

>>269690855
I will not stop until he sees the light or grows tired of me.
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>>269668560
Post homufeet.
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I want to date Mami then marry her, have post marital sex with her, raise our children and spend the rest of our lives together.
if you know what I mean.
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>>269691627
No feet. How about a maidhomu?

>>269691793
Explain further.
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>>269690821
True. Both of them hold the keys to resolve the other's issues. They can only move forward together or not move at all.

>>269691627
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>>269668560
Did the final movie ever end up coming out?
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>>269691899
That Homu needs a sandwich or 3.

>>269692259
About 10 years ago. Have been living under a rock?
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>>269692314
??? I just remember the movie ending on a cliffhanger after they get out of the mind labyrinth thing that Homura put them in. How does the movie series end? Homura getting smacked upside the head by Madoka as she deserves?
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>>269692314
You lied to me, Walpurgisnacht: Rising isn’t out :(
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>>269692259
It was always supposed to come out around December 2024
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>As for Madoka, she needs to realize she's loved and accepted just the way she is and that sacrificing herself to be useful causes pain rather than good.
Is not this what her mom and homura tried to tell her? Words didn't work what doesn't mean there could be other ways.
>>269691209
Well, is not a bit extreme? He could get a bit angry lol. Encouragement word don't work on some people, every person is different anyways.
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>>269692378
Of course she smacked Homura. She wanted to help her.

>>269692412
Lies!

>>269692680
Madoka says don't lose hope. I will remind him to not stray from the light. Homura wird ihn retten.
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>>269692680
It can't be helped. If Madoka's mind refuses to understand the words, then in the new movie Homura would just have to teach this particular truth directly to Madoka's body.
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>>269693073
I'm sure he wants this. There were 2 posts that showed me glimmers of hope, however faint.
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Forget the past, hope is back. Anons never lose hope.
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>>269685040
It was a fake madokAnon
>>269685096
Then you should have chosen your name better tabby.
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>>269693692
Pic related

>>269694119
Never ever lose hope.

>>269694229
That was me.
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>>269694334
Sorry for the mistake.
Anyways this place is where is most fun to defend madoka actions. Holy shit that anon hit a nerve.
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>>269694412
Be as smart as Satania.
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homra
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>>269694503
Nice. Reminds me of all the time I busted my ass.
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>>269672461
What an interesting thread. Dont you agree apple?
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>>269694781
I swear, sometimes I feel like this.
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i could have soloed walpurgisnacht, that's what homu did wrong
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NO! YOUR NOT LET TO LET YOUR PET HOMHOM SMOKE!
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>>269695100
Okay then, next time i'll Let you solo her.

>>269695108
>LET TO LET
Did you?
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>>269694838
>i feel
Perhaps that image is more accurate than you actually think
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>>269695233
If you read through the thread do you see certain similarities?
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>>269695233
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>>269695145
*meant to let
lol
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>>269695414
Don't worry. I knew what you meant.
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>>269694781
Where are her eyebrows?
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homu? more like homo lmao
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>>269696841
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>>269696860
You ignored my question of >>269694568
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>>269668560
homura did nothing wrong
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>>269685179
>>269686071
why did you change the filenames?
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>>269686218
If you watch it expecting "anime lesbianism" you're gonna be disappointed.
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>>269686526
If you want to date them what's even the point of pretending they're gay? You're just setting yourself up to becoming a tranny.
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>>269688503
Yeah because Madoka is the only character Homura trapped and brainwashed
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>>269688620
What does that have to do with wraiths? Kyubey very obviously doesn't create them. So where do they come from?
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>>269690678
>concepts like "right" and "wrong" hold no meaning
Most of the cast would disagree with that.
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>>269695100
Kyouko...
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>>269698524
>Doesn't get the joke
Yurifag IQ on full display
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>>269698749
What? Im not into yuri.
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>>269698875
And i'm not the poster you thought i was.
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>>269698736
...dies like a bitch because waladingdong turns everyone but madoka into a bitch.
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>>269698912
Go to bed waluigi
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>>269698875
>expecting anything else from someone who lets yuri run in his head 24/7
You are smarter than this.

>>269698912
>waladingdong
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>>269698749
>expecting anything else from someone who lets other posters run in his head 24/7
Come one man. You are smarter than this.
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>>269698976
I should have known better. He usually sleeps at around 18:00 to either 2:00 or 3:00. Look at that. He can not make an original post and even fucks it up.
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>>269699051
You sound like a schizo
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>>269699051
I noticed that he posts a sleeping Kyouko image around that time.
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>>269699103
He sometimes forgets like today.
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Fuck
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>>269694568
Apple are those posts actually yours?
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>>269698875
>>269699051
>>269699122
Do you actually think your posting style isn't recognizable? Or are you just trolling or some shit?
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>>269699177
>03:33:33
>22
Madoka Lust knows no bounds. It's been a while.

>>269699196
Pic related.
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>>269699213
Am i? I normally wake up before you
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>>269699238
You said you weren't a yurifag. So, you were pretending to be someone else.
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Enough of you too.
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>>269699250
Gomen
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>>269699250
At least we're not posting OFF TOPIC YURISHIT.
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>>269699250
*two
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>>269699213
ack...
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>>269699281
https://files.catbox.moe/6xdrv0.mp4
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>>269699230
>03:33:33
>american timezone
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>>269699230
Those spoiler posts are just so similar to what you have posted before. You really are being stalked.
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>>269668560
What she did was out of love.
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>>269670024
That is because she did nothing wrong.
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>>269672998
Madoka is so cute. Homura going to tap that cute soon.
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>>269699526
Pudgedoka.
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>>269699548
More madoka to love.
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>>269695414
What flavor is a homu drink?
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>>269699777
Pumpkin spice.
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>>269675977
Is a spider eating a butterfly "wrong"?
To define something as "wrong" is to place it on a moral scale.
How can she be guilty of wrongdoing for something that not only occured naturally as a mere consequence of her existence, but also completely without her input or conscious knowledge?

>>269680651
>who the fuck asked your protection
MADOKA asked. I don't know how the translation is in the jungle language you use natively, but perhaps you should make sure you understand both the source material and the language you're using to spout jeetardation on the internet with before hitting "post" next time.

>>269684477
>let me explain you when we talk about a character we need sources
Which you obviously don't understand with your deranged subhuman currybabble grasping at straws to justify a ridiculous martyr complex shown to be her worst trait.
Or perhaps you're just one of the many low IQs that were filtered by rebellion and seethe about it to this day.
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>>269699788
Damn it.
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>>269699804
He isn't a curry. He is a Carlito.
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>>269695233
How accurate?
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>>269699830
Slightly less nasty and biohazardous but more concerning due to proximity, so it's still bad.
He's a fucking retard either way. All this tripfagging and namefagging is also very homosexual (not in the good Homora way, either) and should not be trying to turn Madoka threads into some sort of fucking circlejerk general.
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>>269700037
I have no arguments here. You are right on all accounts.
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violently murder all madoka "fans"
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>>269700142
Yuribros... i think he's coming for us...
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>>269700142
Would you make it a wish?
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>>269700142
good thing im a mami fan
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>>269700208
Kyouko schizo...
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I want to stick my dick in crazy.
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Forcing yourself onto Homura would probably be difficult but so worth it.
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>>269700606
I want to stick a spear in you.
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>>269682021
>And her ideals and decisions are a product of her broken personality that needs fixing and not enabling.
I sense FSNfag smell from this post. Stop trying to force Shitrou personality on everyone
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>>269700804
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>>269700342
>>269663442
>She makes no mention of her type anywhere in the series or movies, but I think I have an advantage thanks to one of them
I'm curious, what did you mean by this, Apple?
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>>269700932
Yes, Shirou is an orphan, suffers from PTSD and had a soul-rewriting magical artifact stuck inside him for a decade. Madoka has a loving family, good upbringing and still has zero self-value and is borderline suicidal. She isn't Shirou, she's way worse than him.
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>>269668560
Going to kek when Homura an heros herself when Madoka gets a boyfriend in the fourth movie.
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>>269702280
To be fair, she'd probably support that. She wants Madoka to be happy after all.
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>>269702347
What Homura says and what she does doesn’t always sync up
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>>269682079
Frankly, I think it enhanced her character since it made her more interesting.
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>>269686116
It's a gacha and the "gameplay" is for all intents and purposes something like Star Rail if you want to compare it with something recent.
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homu
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>>269702868
what she did in movie is completely out of her character
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>>269699804
>MADOKA asked.
citacion? madoka of the fourth timeline asked but that was after homura made her wish in the first timeline, she started all this nonsense.
>Which you obviously don't understand with your deranged subhuman currybabble grasping at straws to justify a ridiculous martyr complex shown to be her worst trait.
It seems asking sources go against your headcanons, so you feel offended and start insulting. Anyways there is some moment where madoka fail to see a good trait in herself, for example she is brave. But that is not a talent tho. :)
> subhuman currybabble grasping at straws
Anyways if you think i'm that curry called madokAnon, then just be smart and report him, madokAnon has been banned before and has disappeared for 3 days. I know this because i remember him crying about who his ban was unfair when he came back.
>If i tell off the shitposters it will work, they will stop posting!
A smart dude and smart community just report the shitposters. But perhaps asking that is too much here?
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>>269705038
*3rd timeline
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>>269705038
You are a problem for me now.
>>269700037
>Namefags and tripfags are bad
>But i will insult just the namefag
Apple make shitposts too. Thanks for showing your true colors, simp.
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>>269704942
>completely out of her character
>decided to become a witch just to protect Madoka from Kyubey
>rewrote the world to give her a happy life after Madoka told her she wouldn't be happy as a goddess (something Shinbo and Gen agreed on)
>is willing to be everyone's enemy just to protect the world she made for Madoka's sake
>was unable to be without Madoka, which was another reason for her rebellion
What's out of character about any of this? What would have been out of character is to simply let Madoka take her with her. Plus Madokami would still be in danger because Kyubey could have replicated his experiment with a different girl
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>>269668560
But why did it feel sooo right......
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>>269705309
While we both can be insulted on a objective level, you are the one that made the posts he replied to.
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>>269706873
Where?
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Madoka's advice of the day!
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>>269707490
Do you have a kyouko schizo filter? He is unironically the most damaging part of these threads.
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>>269707660
not sure about posting without tripcode but you can easily block him by clicking next to the post number -> filter -> tripcode. Still shows the minimized post unfortunately but let me know if you find anything else
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>>269707912
The schizo does not use a tripcode...
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>>269707660
Just filter out posts with kyouko in the filename?
Unless you don't mean the man himself, rather the idea, aka, any post you don't like is "kyouko schizo". In which case, it's like asking for !Akemi filters, it's impossible.
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>>269709160
Thanks.
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>>269700639
Madoka...
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>>269701743
>>269678857
Apple is a girl
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>>269705684
it was against Madoka's will. Homura from anime won't do that shit.
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Satomi "the tiny" Touka did nothing wrong
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>>269710979
She was a little extreme though.
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>>269706976
When someone wants to attack us they always mention "tripfags and namefags" or "madokAnon,kyokoschizo" when they want to be specific.
It's always those 2 options, don't you think anons are opportunistic?
>>269710094
Apple is not a girl but What i have read, if that is true then i don't even know how that anon can have faith in men again.
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>>269707660
>Filters out his avatar:
/^kyouko([a-z]|\s)*[0-9]*\./;type:filename;boards:a;
/^kyakek.*[0-9]*\./;type:filename;boards:a;
/^if only.jpg/;type:filename;boards:a
/k(you|e+)karo/i;type:filename,comment;boards:a
>Filters out his text when he phoneposts. There might be some false positives, use this if you're not afraid of little friendly fire:
/vacate/i;type:comment;boards:a
/ (yuri|homo|gay|faggot|fag)\s?(slops?|shits?|trash|garbage|fags?|trannys?)/i;type:comment;boards:a
/shitt?y? fanfic/i;type:comment;boards:a
/fan\s?service (shit|garbage)/i;type:comment;boards:a
/Kyouko.?s?([a-zA-Z]|\s)+(cope|heroic)/i;type:comment;boards:a
/"(pairs|pairings|ships)"/i;type:comment;boards:a
/[a-z]+(CHAD|SCHOLAR|GOD|GENIUS|JOB)./;type:comment;boards:a
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I be MadokaCHAD (me not be that, i'm kidding ).
I like mami fan service.
Please not bring bring your shittttttttty fanfic. Me never learnt english.
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>>269710094
If this is the real explanation then that means she believes Kyouko to be gay canonically and as such isn't a real KyoukoCHAD.
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>>269712608
beware the false madokanon
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>>269713564
Based
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>>269713564
Damn.. Sayaka is so lucky..
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>>269713996
>Sayaka out of nowhere
Rent free. Leave my wife's best friend alone
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>>269714118
These two lovers look so good together, so cute
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>>269679579
At the end of the day Homura is just Sayaka with extra steps. It's not enough that madoka isn't a magical girl, Homura wants to be beside her and that cannot happen if she dies to Walpurgis or pursues Mahou Shoujodom. Which is why Rebellion has her as her vulnerable cute and harmless schoolgirl self in the end. And she already "said" she wanted this, so it should be fine, so Homura tells herself
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>>269712822
So now you are going to turn against her?
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>>269714339
Only Kyouko is my lover though. I like Sayaka too of course, but not in that way and i would never cheat on my wife Kyouko.
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>>269714734
I am not for or against any specific person on this site.
I am for or against specific posts, groups of people, and kinds of posters.
That is literally the point of an anonymous website. I can fully agree with someone on one thread while we're insulting each other on another thread. It doesn't fucking matter who is who. What matters is what we post.
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>>269714890
So then Apple can still be a kyoukochad despite what you believe.
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>>269715140
Real KyoukoCHADS do not call her gay.
She could at best pretend to be one.
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>>269715234
Has Apple ever did?
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>>269716105
If your theory as to what he meant by that other post is true then yes.
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>>269716170
Then by proxy Apple will always "call" Kyouko gay. Apple with Kyouko is considered yuri.
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>>269714339
What do you expect? Kyouko amd Sayaka are made for each other.
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It’s bed time for me. See you tomorrow, friends.
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>>269717193
rip in peace
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>>269712967
That was me thougbeit, i was testing the filters of the post above mine.
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>>269718607
He left these threads in shambles. Worse yet he is shitting on a person because she is in love with kyouko which he can not stand and is angry.
>inb4 he thinks you and i are the same person.
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A word with 3 letters is DOG. And some dogs always go to you if you call them.
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>>269668560
Homura did everything right.
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Madoka did everything right.
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Kyouko did everything right.
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>>269718607
Hello
Is it me your looking for?
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Sayaka did everything right.
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Kyubey did everything right.
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WHEN IS THE FUCKING MOVIE COMING OUT
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>>269720108
This is cute but seeing Kyouko sick hurts, i want to protect her from sickness
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also, how dare madoka seal herself away, she deserved everything she got
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>>269692314
Liar. The movie has not come out yet.
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>>269719478
I can see it in your eyes.
I can see it in your smiles.
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>>269720149
December 31 at the latest.
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Well see what can be done next week
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>>269721380
There is always room for improvement.
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In the final movie, Homura will learn to live for herself instead of obsessing over Madoka. Basically what happened to Kaworu in the final Rebuild of Evangelion movie.
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>>269721510
if everything can get worse then everything can get better
maybe
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>>269670024
She's probably lesbian
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Hug Madoka to relieve stress.
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>>269721915
this would be the worst.
its either gonna be mirai nikki everything gets fixed somehow a depressing end or another cliffhanger
not only does it not fit into her character, it goes against everything the show built
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>>269721915
She can be both, at this point her entire self is based on her obsession with Madoka, removing that in a single movie after a pep talk would be lame
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>>269688590
Mami was made for bullying
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>>269721915
It's a bit more difficult situation even if she leaves her obsession, will homura be able to live with the guilt? What would think their friends after everything she did? Sayaka thinking something like "This girl changed the universe for madoka but now is good and we just need to move on". If it ends like that is lame, shonen tier, no normal person would trust in homura after knowing what she did. Just memory reset everyone.
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>>269722289
Nah this is dumb. What Homura needs is to learn to love herself. And loving herself doesn't mean stopping loving Madoka. And Madoka needs to love herself as well. Ideally these 2 will be able to move forward together after having an honest conversation, and will work together to fix the mess that will happen in kaiten
after that they could just live as normal teenagers or as goddesses
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>>269722154
yes, by me
>>269722356
>after that they could just live as normal teenagers or as goddesses
I would laugh my head off it this happens, whatever, it's what most fans want.
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>>269722414
Hot
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>>269722414
Im convinced Your silver garden was foreshadowing the ultimate ending for Madoka and Homura, at least. I mean the animation for the song
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>>269721980
Then it will.

>>269722044
I want to take my stress out on Kyouko, if you know what I mean.
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>>269722517
It's time for me to have another dream.
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I just checked Apple at Desuarchive. The faggot is always in Madoka threads. Crazy! If they release Madoka Kaiten, the discussion would be over like Evangelion. Apple will turn into one of helpless refugees. Literally hobo Kyoko. lol

Don't you guys watch other anime?
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>>269722289
>Just memory reset everyone.
Mabayusisters! It's our time!
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No guys, i'm not him btw.
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>>269723203
Hmmm.
>Don't you guys watch other anime?
If I know about MahoAko, even the characters that aren't in the anime yet, what do you think?
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>>269705309
I listed tripfags right there in my post, dumb namefag.

>>269705038
>madoka of the fourth timeline asked
>madoka....asked
So; Madoka asked. Glad we could settle that, though it's a shame you're still too retarded to comprehend the significance of disagreeing with someone saying "Madoka asked" while asking for "citacion" and saying "Madoka asked"

>It seems asking sources go against your headcanons, so you feel offended and start insulting.
I insult you because your posts are very clearly low IQ retardbabble from a subhuman who does not even understand the language. I don't go to your tribal meetings and lower the quality of discussion by interrupting your click-clacking over whose turn it is to cook the mosquito-burgers with a poor attempt at clack-clicking back, so I'd appreciate if you could show the same decency.
Moreso than just your poor grasp of human language; your blatantly obvious stupidity marks you as someone deserving of insult.

>Implying
It's important for civilized human beings to at least attempt to speak to children and the mentally deficient (Or a combination of the two, such as yourself) on equal terms and clearly explain things to them; even if they will not or can not understand.
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>>269723649
This man.
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>>269722112
Problem is, this level of obsession is necessary in order to keep Madoka from killing herself. So before fixing herself, Homura has to fix Madoka first, else literally all of her actions would be for nothing.
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>>269724292
But how can she fix Madoka when she needs fixing herself.
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>>269723649
>So; Madoka asked. Glad we could settle that, though it's a shame you're still too retarded to comprehend the significance of disagreeing with someone saying "Madoka asked" while asking for "citacion" and saying "Madoka asked"

That was not the point tho, the problem was the first wish of homura was selfish and wrong at the same time, that was the point. Anyways you are overanalyzing madoka magica if you think is complex.

>don't go to your tribal meetings and lower the quality of discussion
The reality is that you don't go to spanish speaking forums because you are too retard to write spanish even 5yo spanish level.

>so I'd appreciate if you could show the same decency.
I have showed enough decency, i could even posts screenshots or text as the source but i don't want to be more obnoxious. Unlike you who doesn't even understand the point of the discussion.

>It's important for civilized human beings to at least attempt to speak to children and the mentally deficient (Or a combination of the two, such as yourself) on equal terms and clearly explain things to them; even if they will not or can not understand.
So you are the problem too, shitposters have been a problem since forever and telling them off never worked. With this you make me understand you were just trolling. Keep trying faggot.
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>>269725031
What else was Homura supposed to do? Girls at that age are emotionally unstable and her best friend died. Any girl would make a wish to prevent that and in Homura's case, go back to protect Madoka instead.
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>>269725170
>Met her just weeks ago
>best friend
The problem is that homura idealized madoka.
For madoka even mami and sayaka were more important friend than homura in timeline1
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>>269725266
Right.
>Madoka... my one and only friend.
Madoka is her only friend and likely the first person to ever give her affection, considering her parents are completely absent even when she's at the hospital
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>>269724292
Homura and Madoka will fix each other at the same time after a heart to heart conversation.
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>>269725031
>the problem was the first wish of homura was selfish and wrong
Except it's not. Because you're wrong and just too fucking subhumanly stupid to understand why.

>Anyways you are overanalyzing madoka magica if you think is complex
The issue is not so much that it's exceedingly complex, but rather, that you are extraordinarily dumb. Not only are you flat-out wrong when you posted the rhetorical question of who asked her to save Madoka, but you're also wrong on the concept of it mattering.
Homura did nothing wrong.

>The reality is that you don't go to spanish speaking forums because...
Because I don't want to fucking speak to bean-brained tortilla lickers. Why the fuck would I want to speak to your ilk when I'm quite clearly requesting that you leave. But I guess infesting places you don't belong is endemic to your kind.

>the point of the discussion
The point of the discussion is apparently some swarthy faggot trying to bitch and moan about Homura because she dared take matters into her own hands rather than exist with the subhuman slave mentality of doing nothing and expecting others to fix things like some fellow impotent third-worlder.

Do you think you're making some moral criticism of Homura by cobbling together these asinine posts in a place you clearly can't communicate properly? Even if you could use the language properly, your room temperature IQ would not change. You legitimately cannot understand the matter at hand or even what you're trying to say.
Go ahead and take a look at my post here >>269699804 about a spider eating a butterfly. It is completely amoral because the creature cannot even comprehend what morality is. Now, would I listen to the spider's opinions on Right and Wrong? Of course not—it's too fucking stupid to properly communicate with a human or grasp the concept of morality. In this way, it is remarkably similar to yourself.
But I'm sure if it could talk; it'd still manage to be more eloquent and capable of logic than you.
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>>269725650
>The troll has been found out and still replying
Ok troll the fact that you know something about me and i don't know anything about you apart of you being a worthless troll it's revealing.
>Because I don't want to fucking speak to bean-brained tortilla lickers. Why the fuck would I want to speak to your ilk when I'm quite clearly requesting that you leave. But I guess infesting places you don't belong is endemic to your kind.
So i follow your logic and i don't want to improve my english because i don't think a imageboard deserves more, but i could understand this place is important for you what is sad. Anyways i told you the solution and you are still a retard who thinks just telling me to leave will work.

>Do you think you're making some moral criticism of Homura by cobbling together these asinine posts in a place you clearly can't communicate properly? Even if you could use the language properly, your room temperature IQ would not change. You legitimately cannot understand the matter at hand or even what you're trying to say.
Dude, it's true that i said that homura made a mistake but never tried to put myself in a moral high ground so much like you. Perhaps leddit would be more fit to your kind.
Your spider-butterfly analogy in this case is outright stupid(what i could expect from a troll). I'm not a spider i'm just another human like you. Do you understand you wrong analogy?

>I'm smarter than you because i say so
>I'm have more moral than you, you are like a spider because i say so.
Lmao, your are more faggot than i thought, almost like the typical leftist. Stupid troll the only think you got with this is make me realize how much my post got you, on the other hand your insults just make me laugh. Now i want to make more posts like that thanks to you faggot.
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>>269726186
>i'm just another human like you
You're not a human.
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>>269725266
Month to be precise. Homura made a very basic wish for the only person to show her affection. Madoka was friends with Sayaka and Mami before she first met Homura so naturally she cares about them more, but remember that she said Homura was her very best friend before ascending to LoC.
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>>269726303
>but remember that she said Homura was her very best friend before ascending to LoC.
Because before ascending to LoC in chapter 12 madoka stated that she could see everything that happened. So it was okay to consider her best friend after she saw everything what homura did for her in that specific timeline.
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I finished the show a week ago and I have no idea how you guys manage to tough out the wait for over a decade now
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>>269726251
Then what thing am i for you?
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>>269726531
Like a Kyubey but dumber, uglier, and can't grant wishes.
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>>269726616
>Like a Kyubey but dumber, uglier, and can't grant wishes.
Even that limited kyubey is good. Thanks for the praise.
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>>269726457
Even so you see how much Madoka loved being with Homura who she "just met? Where did she show such affection to both Mami and Sayaka? Both who she knew longer?

>>269726662
Heh
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>>269727148
>Where did she show such affection to both Mami and Sayaka? Both who she knew longer?
It's hard to tell how much she liked mami but madoka was about to make a wish just to revive sayaka, that is how important sayaka is for her. And she had reasons because she was a childhood friend.
What i try to mean is that madoka have more reasons to love friends she have already known rather than a new friend she just met. The current timeline is different because thanks to being LoC she could see other past timelines and turning her into her best friend.
Anyways did she show more affection towards homura than her other friends?I'd say only in the current timeline for the aforementioned reasons, in other timelines no and for good reasons (just a month).
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>>269727559
She literally contracted for a fucking cat.
>Anyways did she show more affection towards homura than her other friends?
Apple literally posted a give of madoka all over homura.
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>>269727612
Gif
Fuck me
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>>269727612
>She literally contracted for a fucking cat.
Because she loves animals and her friends, and on top of that have a lot of empathy(and no please, don't discuss me this). It would be a mistake to think she saved a stray cat because madoka wanted to fuck her. That is what a yurifag would think.
>Apple literally posted a give of madoka all over homura.
It was just congratulations hug, nothing more,yurifag.
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>>269727804
Animals die all the fucking time big whoop.
>yurifag
Out of nowhere. That hug is clearly an affectionate one not a yuri one you retard. Use that lump of grey matter in your head.
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>>269727804
Where was the yuri implied, amigo?
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>>269727890
madokAnon? No wonder.
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>>269727869
>Animals die all the fucking time big whoop.
Yes, and for some people animals are a big weakness, madoka is one of them. Who would not save a poor stray cat? , if you just leave it dead there you are just heartless.
>That hug is clearly an affectionate
If it was just an affectionate hug for you then i agree with you, nothing more and not a sign of more affection towards homura.
>>269727890
Just was trolling, it's fun to mention than word for me sometimes.
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>>269726522
Just look around you anon. We all lost our minds waiting.
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>>269727966
So are you heartless for leaving animals behind? By your logic you are a monster.
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>>269727922
Anyway, for us to understand anything, we'd have to have been girls that has gone through rough times or middle school since that is where shit typically hits the fan.
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>>269728012
Cutedoka
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>>269728060
You expect a grown ass spic to know something like that?
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>>269728078
Very Cutedoka.
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>>269728120
I don't expect none of us to know that. None of us are the little girl.
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>>269728122
She is all-around the cutest of the cast.
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>>269728197
I agree. I think it's the pink honestly. Can't beat pink in the cuteness department.
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>>269728053
>So are you heartless for leaving animals behind? By your logic you are a monster.
If it occurs just in front your eyes, yes! That happened to madoka and she took the chance to save that cat. listen or read about the CD drama 1 my friend.

Time to sleep, anyways today i learnt that homura knights are a goldmine of laugh. I came here to hate homura but ended discovering something better. I know now where are the most faggot and retard fishes in the pool now, the free laughs. Why did nobody tell me?
Good night.
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Has madoka ever shown you her madokaballs?
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>>269728157
Apple-moot...
>>269728277
>am a sayakafag
>gets called homura knight
This is hard to swallow...
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>>269728276
They do say real men love pink. That aside, pink tends to be the cutest color.

>>269728300
No. She has small twintails.
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>>269728351
I can't deny I love pink. Especially this pink girl.
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>>269727804
Kys kyoukonigger.
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>>269728407
I really can't blame you. Madoka is drawn absurdly cute. They all are, really, but Madoka hits hardest. Probably because of how small she is.
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>>269728453
That's madokAnon.
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>>269728488
They are all cute I definitely agree there. But Madoka being small and protectable really helps her being the cutest. Also being the MC also shouldn't be overlooked.
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>>269728593
That's what it is. The others except Moemura can easily defend themselves without being clumsy. Madoka also has cute reactions.
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>>269728993
Blueballed?
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>>269728993
Stick my spear in there
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I hope Mitama is in Exedra. And is breedable.
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>>269670024
Her extremely selfish and overblown desire born from her ver unhealthy obsession with Madoka turned a tragic but otherwise normal situation into a world destroying scenario that could only be fixed with Madoka erasing herself.
But that's not the worst, the worst is that after 100 tries she never took the obvious path of just kidnapping Madoka for a month and then returning her after Walpurgisnacht stopped her rampage. This shows that she didn't only care about Madoka safety as she pretended, she also wanted Madoka to like her personally, something the movie ends up implying as well, she doesn't want Madoka to live she just wants her image of Madoka to remain as the day they became friends, because she's a selfish bitch like that.
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>>269669905
Very fucking much so, even within a yurifag headspace.
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>>269729743
Mami...
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>>269668560
Our Meguca Family after 7 Years of Service.

Our round of applause for all our girls, all the VA who made this game what it is.


Rie Tanaka (Minou)
Fuka Izumi (Hikaru)
Reina Ueda (Aimi)
Mami Koyama (Shii)
Misaki Kuno (Yuma)
Marina Inoue (Jun)
Minami Tanaka (Hotori)
Mako Morino (Natsuki)
Reina Kondo (Masara)
Ayane Sakura (Felicia)
Mao Ichimichi (Nanaka)
Shiori Izawa (Lapin)
Naomi Oozora (Himika)
Sayumi Suzushiro (Amaryllis)
Maiko Irie (Asahi)
Mamiko Noto (Pernelle)
Asuka Nishi (Meiyu)
Shion Wakayama (Heruka)
Hina Kino (Ikumi)
Nanako Mori (Kanae)
Haruka Yoshimura (Hazuki)
Ami Koshimizu (Riz)
Marika Kouno (Reira)
Mai Nakahara (Mifuyu)
Kana Hanazawa (Kuroe)
Rie Takahashi (Sasara)
Rika Tachibana (Ria)
Akari Komiyama (Namae)
Kaede Hondo (Mikoto)
Eriko Matsui (Haruka)
Kayuki Matsumoto (Juri)
Nao Touyama (Chisato)
Chiwa Saito (Homura)
Wakana Maruoka (Urara)
Moe Toyota (Mitsuru)
Sakura Tange (Kazumi)
Marina Yamada (Chika)
Machico (Sayuki)
Hina Youmiya (Tsuyu)
Aoi Yuki (Madoka)
Asami Seto (Asuka)
Mayu Sagara (Chiharu)
Amane Shindou (Mikage)
Sumire Morohoshi (Nemu)
Yui Fukuo (Moka)
Sally Amaki (Ashley)
Manaka Iwami (Ui)
Yuuko Natsuyoshi (Meguru)
Aguri Onishi (Sunao)
Chiaki Takahashi (Isabeau)
Yuka Ozaki (Ren)
Shu Uchida (Shizuka)
Saori Hayami (Oriko and Mabayu)
Rie Kugimiya (Touka)
Lynn (Konoha)
Rie Murakawa (Matsuri)
Miyuki Sawashiro (Eliza)
Ai Nonaka (Kyouko)
Kana Ueda (Arisa)
Yuka Ootsubo (Corbeau)
Hina Tachibana (Chizuru)
Hikaru Akao (Riko)
Ran Haruka (Nayuta)
Eri Suzuki (Kako)
Ayana Taketatsu (Alina)
Yuuki Kuwahara (Seira)
Momo Asakura (Iroha)
Suzuko Mimori (Konomi)
Ai Fairouz (San)
Yurie Kozakai (Hotaru)
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>>269729800
Yukina Tomatsu (Ryoko)
Yuka Iguchi (Kirika)
Ayaka Nanase (Shizuku)
Yoshino Nanjo (Suzune)
Yoko Hikasa (Tsubaki)
Shiina Natsukawa (Tsuruno)
Aya Uchida (Umika and Tsukasa)
Maria Naganawa (Mito)
Kaori Ishihara (Rena)
Rikako Aida (Maria)
Ari Ozawa (Ayaka)
Kana Asumi (Nagisa)
Yui Ogura (Sana)
Eri Kitamura (Sayaka)
Aoi Koga (Kushu)
Yukako Kiuchi (AniKuro)
Kaori Mizuhashi (Mami)
Sora Amamiya (Yachiyo)
Hikaru Iida (Miyuri)
Kurumi Wakamatsu (Yozuru)
Yuuka Aisaka (Mayu)
Tomomi Jiena Sumi (Yukika)
Azumi Waki (Seika)
Ai Kakuma (Melissa and Kanoko)
Kanon Takao (Meru and Kagome)
Ayaka Ohashi (Kaede)
Shizuka Ishigami (Masara)
Yui Horie (Mitama and Tart)
Maria Sashide (Rabi)
Mariya Ise (Rui)
Asuka Shioiri (Sudachi)
Atsumi Tanezaki (Sae)
Rumi Okubo (Bear Girl and Akari)
Minori Suzuki (Sakurako)
Chiemi Tanaka (Rion)
Tomoyo Takayanagi (Hagumu)
Akari Kito (Emiri and Shigure)
Akiho Suzumoto (Yuna)
Honoka Kuroki (Livia)
Hitomi Sasaki (Aichan)
Marika Hayase (Alexandra)
Mikako Komatsu (Momoko)
Kido Ibuki (Ayame)
Miyu Tomita (Grunhilde)
Miho Okasaki (Hanna)
Sayaka Senbongi (Kanagi)
Kanae Ito (Rika)
Mayu Mineda (Sakuya)
Satomi Amano (Ao)
Inori Minase (Mitsune)
Eri Yukimura (Ranka)
Kotono Mitsuishi (Yuu)
Misaki Yamada (Toyo)
Tomo Muranaka (Akira)
Hisako Kanemoto (Karin)
Madoka Asahina (Hinano)
Sumire Uesaka (Yuuna)
Yukina Shuto (Himena)
Kana Ichinose (Mikura)
Tomori Kusunoki (Ebony)
Chika Anzai (Olga)
Aya Suzaki (Manaka)
Sora Tokui (Tsumugi)
Maaya Uchida (Tsukuyo)
Maki Kawase (Ryou)
Yukari Anzai (Temari)

Or in Akari's case, she will be making her name as the next MC. If you needed reminding, she is your self insert in Exedra.
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>>269729821
Wow, this needs a big game.
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>>269729821
>she is your self insert in Exedra.
But im not a girl.
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>>269729800
>Maria
>Marina
>Reina
based non nip named nips
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>>269722075
If it's Mirai Nikki then i'm gonna be Nishijima.
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>>269721996
Can't be something that doesn't exist.
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Post Momdoka
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>>269725266
Madoka was literally Homura's only friend, that's why she grew so attached to her and obsessed
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>>269726522
A lot of people used to think Rebellion wouldn't get a sequel.
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>>269728453
ACK...
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Why don't you just mass reply, mon amie?
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>>269729548
Exedra is apparently going to let you create your own meguca named Name-chan.
I wish it would also let you be a guy named Name-kun, and would let you date the megucas, that would be kino
Has there even been a story that focuses on what it's like to be a magical girl's boyfriend?
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>>269730519
Why don't you reply to this >>269701743 ?
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>>269730572
Ah, that. Don't worry, it's unrelated to yuri.
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>>269730604
I didn't say it was related to yuri. I asked what you meant by that.
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>>269730626
What do you think it means?
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>>269730647
I don't know. That's why i'm asking.
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>>269730659
It has something to do with how Kyouko was when she was given a "proper life". There is also more, but I can't elaborate for certain reasons.
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>>269730647
>>269730604
>>269730519
You are a good sniper
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>>269730720
That's a pretty weird thing to not want to elaborate on.
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>>269730757
>That's
What is?
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>>269730792
I don't know. You claim to have reasons to believe you're Kyouko's type, despite also saying she never says her type.
Why want to avoid elaborating on these reasons?
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>>269730833
I merely said advantage, not type. As for why, it involves real life.
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>>269730881
Well yeah, it's always going to involve real life. But it's weird to not want to elaborate on it.
Especially since you seem to think it's about Rebellion specifically, and all the dark stuff about Kyouko's character come from the other entries.
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>>269730881
You are turning that person to schizophrenia.
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>>269730930
Forgive me, but it's dangerous to the eyes of anyone here.
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>>269730953
That isn't my fault though.
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>>269730956
What does that even mean?
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>>269731009
You are the strangest poster here...
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>>269731009
You're not doing a great job of disproving your simp's theory by being so vague. You can"t really complain if some outside observer would think he's right.
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>>269730339
yuno got her original memories back but nishijima just died as a normal human
so even though in the end minene is with another nishijima the "real" one she fell in love with is dead
the original MC is dead too
must be a weird feeling
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>>269731091
Megucas do not care about that though.
Homura's original Madoka is long gone too.
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Attack Kyouko while she is praying!
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>>269731031
It's not like it would matter.

>>269731091
Er ist am Leben!

>>269731116
That will always be sad. Luckily LoC knows, but she still isn't the original Mafoka Kaname.
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>>269731116
depends on what kind of time travel homura uses.
Besides, since with being a god and all time and space have no meaning for madoka no instance of her truly died but rather all dissapeared after making her wish
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Defend praying Kyouko from this faggot >>269731148 !
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>>269731161
>Mafoka
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but with the karmic timelines scene it is heavily implied homuras time travel and yunos time travel is the same and every time they go back a new world is created and the old one keeps going on its path
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i wonder if homura knows.
she was truly devasted when she learned the karmic weight being her fault, but the anime never tackled the dozens of dead madokas she failed to save
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>>269731172
Even before Madoka ascended, Homura was still trying to save other Madokas though.

>>269731212
Yeah that's pretty much outright stated. Madokami did affect all of them though
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>>269730956
I know where you live and what you eat. I've even replaced the contents of your toothpaste with something different and you haven't even noticed, You have nothing to hide.
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>>269731161
alive yeah but not well
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>>269731320
Why don't you go to bed? EST is at five o’clock.
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no
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>>269729743
>implying she didn't try
>implying kidnapping Madoka would stop her from making a wish
>implying Walpurgisnacht is just some random witch and isn't drawn to Madoka specifically
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oh i wish we could be together
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>>269731116
What do you mean? The anime Madoka is original Madoka, there are no other Madokas. Homura has true time rewind.
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>>269731212
If the old timeline would continue as usual instead of getting pruned then it would make no sense for it to affect Madoka in the new timeline.
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>>269733780
when homura travels back in time a new world is created and since that world only exists for madoka it increases her karmic burden
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>>269731232
Honestly, I really dislike the "Homura jumps to alternate universes" theory. It contradicts way too much, and doesn't give satisfying explanations to the things it doesn't contradict.
1. It contradicts the explicitly established mechanics of how wishes are granted. Wishes are granted as they are intended, and Homura clearly wanted to save her Madoka and not some random Madoka in some random parallel timeline.
2. It contradicts the way her shield was described to work. It has a sand timer inside with enough sand for one and a half months. In the normal position sand flows as intended, half-rotation puts the timer on its side, stopping the flow of sand and time, and full rotation flips the timer, making sand and time to flow in reverse. Timeline jumping makes no sense in this context.
3. It contradicts the established connection between the wish and the innate magic. If Homura's wish was to create or find a new timeline, why would her main magic be the timestop?
4. It contradicts the way her magic was described in the official materials
>Her shield-like weapon is a sand-timer. It has the power to isolate a certain period of time
The only argument for this theory is guitarist Kyousuke, and he was cut out of the anime for a reason and could be explained in a half a dozen different ways besides.
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>>269734441
well something aint getting truly reset
why would karmic destiny build up otherwise?
homura and madokas threads clearly get woven deeper every time jump, which makes no sense if its a simple rewind
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>>269734441
also you are clearly misunderstanding what I mean.
Its not some kind of rick and morty timeline jump, but the moment time gets rewound a seperate timeline starts to exist.
before homuras meddling there was no other timelines
By rewinding time with the intent to save madoka she essentially creates a world that only exists for madoka, thus giving her more power
by rewinding time homura creates a world that otherwise wouldnt have been, call it what you like but that is clearly whats happening.
And clearly the other timeline atleast truly existed (Madoka remembers what happened before in the beginning of the show)
Actually thats pretty weird, a cummon trope in time travel shows, but why should madoka have any memory of another timeline in the beginning?
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>>269734441
It's hardly a theory. It's how it was presented in canon.
Most fictional works do not understand time travel. But clearly every time Homura reseted it created a new universe. This has been stated multiple times.
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>>269734672
If Homura literally folds time on itself around Madoka, then it would make sense for Madoka's karmic potential to double with each loop, raising exponentially. It also aligns with the anime better than linear growth that creation of additional timelines would cause: we know that Madoka went from a fairly strong but ordinary girl on the level of Mami to the world-destroying monstrosity in only four loops, which doesn't really support linear growth.
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>>269734812
yes its the only way the buildup of destiny makes sense
if homura just rewound one timeline madoka could never become madokami
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>>269669905
Yes. Madoka is shit.
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>>269680651
And Madoka is still doing that, it's just that she now also gets to live her own life thanks to Homura.
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>>269734826
if homuras magic worked like a sandclock, then it wouldnt fold anything and just rewind time undoing everything that happened and in that scenario the story doesnt make sense anymore
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>>269734913
It canonically works as a sandclock. And Homura probably can't destroy the time that already elapsed, but she can compress it into a single point, making universe think it didn't happen. Imagine pinning a part of a string against the table, and sliding other part towards it, creating a fold. From the Homura's perspective it looks like rewind, but the events still happened. It would also explain how Madoka could remember previous timelines.
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>sandcock
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I wanna fall into Homuras arms
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>>269728993
Why does she sit like that?
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>>269735099
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>>269734441
It's not a theory, it's pretty much confirmed Homura jumps timelines. About guitarist Kyousuke, it wasn't removed from the anime entirely, because Oktavia from timeline 3 has a different labyrinth, which looks like a concert hall, and her witch card says she wants to recreate Kyousuke's guitar playing.
Kyubey mentioned this too when talking about why Madoka has so much karma. It contradicts nothing.
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based on our current understanding of time creating different universes is an unavoidable side effect of time travel
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>Akemi Homura, time traveler. —— By turning back time and changing the events of the past, you have relived this past month over and over across numerous different timelines, seeking the outcome you desire.
>[...]I couldn't comprehend why Kaname Madoka, who led only an ordinary life, should have so many threads of fate woven so tightly around her...
>You traveled through time for just one purpose, to protect Kaname Madoka. By turning back time over and over, each time for the same reason and goal, you inadvertently caused multiple timelines to converge together and centered them all on Kaname Madoka.
>If Madoka's threads of fate from each of those seperate timelines all end up linking to the Madoka in this current timeline, that would explain why her magical potential appears so impossibly huge. All the karmic destiny you sent spinning across all of those different timelines eventually attached to Kaname Madoka. After all, everything you did was for her.
Why the fuck is this a discussion? Kyubey mentions several times that there are multiple timelines. It's not a theory. Homura is still a time manipulator because every time she jumps to a new timeline, she wakes up at the start of her loop, allowing her to try to change Madoka's fate over and over.
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>>269736310
she doesnt jump, its more like a new world starts to exist the moment she travels back in time
its not parralel universes after all
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>>269736337
Call it whatever you want, the thing is there are tons of timelines by the time the anime timeline happened.
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the flesh is weak
steel is strong
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>>269736382
mirai nikki and madoka really have so much in cummon
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>>269736238
Actually no, because time doesn't work like it does in most fictional works including Madoka.
If time travel existed then it would be deterministic time travel where everything you do in the past has always been part of the past even before you travel in time
Think like Haruhi time travel
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>>269736478
It's weird there isn't more crossover art between them
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>>269736550
both my most watched anime of all time
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the carburator is the heart and lungs of the engine
the fuel tank is the stomach
the pipes are the intestines
what is the ignition system?
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hell yeah kyouko
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>>269730531
Magical Boy stories is common in MM fanfiction. There was even one about Midoriya becoming one.
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>>269736903
Oji-san's favourite slut is here.
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>>269736970
That's not really what i'm asking for tho, i don't think guys can become megucas in the madokaverse
But having like some kind of dating sim with the girls would be funny
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>>269736722
metal is water
stone is wax
flesh is smoke
enter me and be no longer
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>>269737063
You are going to be a girl.
You will date other girls
And you will enjoy it.
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>>269737234
Nope, i will not, and neither will you, ever.
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>>269737272
You will be a girl
Who gets raped/molested by dozens of girls a la Crimson (Resolve)
And you will enjoy it.
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>>269736722
The soul?

>>269737179
This looks interesting.

>>269737234
Is she at least customizable?
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>off topic yurishit
i WIN.
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>>269737438
There's a theory that when she gains all her memories back we will see her true appearance.
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>>269737421
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>>269737469
>i WIN
Yes. Like Le Pen won...oh wait.
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>>269668560
Is this from the Star Rail ripoff?
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>>269737477
So she does have a fixed appearance. She will just look like the way we want her to. That's cool anyway. It will give people ideas for fanart.
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>>269737556
I hope she's a flat genki.
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>>269737523
yes
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>>269737505
>Le Pen
I still don't understand what Le Limier means by this.
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I want to touch homura
feel her hair
her warm breath
her heart beat next to mine
im unworthy
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>>269737601
>flat genki
Nice tastes. Should she have fangs?
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>>269737666
Satan...
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what set off the steinstard this time
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>>269737764
love would be pretty nice
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Yuri won btw
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>>269738040
Is that fanbase still up to some fuckery? What is wrong with them
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>>269738550
Yuri always wins.
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Homura is a gay rapist.
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>>269739152
>gay
yes
>rapist
no
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>>269729962
>>269729821
>>269729800
Meguca Smash Sisters
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Madoka cute.
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>>269738162
Everyone here deserves it.

>>269739476
That could work too.
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