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>>269723259The absolute state of Popp
>>269723276Such a sour way to end the series, i still cant believe Popp just fails.
>>269723396Scared the mystic right out of her eyes
>>269723508They probably meant for them to be threatening but thought of them under a Dragon Quest game context where they have high health and high attack but since this is a shonen manga I can only think of it more like Dragon Ball where they'd all get oneshotted by any quarter relevant fighter. Nova could slightly chip orichalcon so he really should just oneshot all of them simultaneously. Unless they're all stronger than initial Hyunckel or god forbid, comparable to Baran in his debut then they should be non-threats.
>>269723565It is an AoE and stamina/mana issue, really.
>>269723654But then how would they lose stamina dealing with a bunch of weakling fodder?
>>269723668>>269723751YES CAPTAIN
>>269723259Fuck.
>>269723668Always did like Drackeys for some reason.
>>269723508Ah yes, the armies of Literal Hell.
>>269723804He is probably stronger than Marm desu, not even calling her weak.>>269723834Based star Zangief
>>269723609I love how nobody judges Popp for having doubts or insecurities. They're all there for him.
>>269723668The cutest soldiers.
>>269723751AFFIRMATIVE, CAPTAIN CHIU!!
>>269723900Oh right, Myst-Vearn is still seething.
>>269723989Popp... ;_;
>>269723375I wonder what's going on inside Maam's head right now. Asking Popp about that lovey dovey stuff before when he's thinking about the fate of the world.
>>269724034Crocochads this is our time
>>269724055Man, all of his self-loathing and insecurity is really coming to a head now.
>>269724086Hyunkel is a BRO
>>269724055Warriorship is still not a word, translator
>>269724111The best team.
>>269724141Goddamn...
>>269724178>Maam still doesn't get itlmao
>>269724141Oof...
>>269724303Is Chiu about to go BERSERK?
>>269724353>killed one at the cost of KOing himself with a shit weaponHe's grown a lot.
>>269724281>>269724303>>269724328This is my one true knock against the 2020 anime, they cut out this scene and some other Chiu stuff during this arc.
>>269724353Not bad, I still don't like him though.
>>269724141Popp...
>>269724402>>269724453Saw that OP.
>>269724477Oh hey, deja vu.
>>269724531No, you didn'tShut up
>>269724541LEAVE POPP ALONE
>>269724573if hyunckel has a watch, he would be looking at it real impatiently right now
>>269724717FUCK!
>>269724717No. NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>269724820AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>269724820Quick! Cast Kazing!
>>269724892But she's not dead yet.
>>269724904God, being Popp is suffering.
>>269724935>Maam is pretty dumb, but you're damn close!Kek, Leona's likability increased.
>>269724935Is now really the time for this, Leona. Merle is dying.
>>269724935even leona is getting tired of these teenagers
>>269724992>Popp could have had a cute oracle wifeFUCK
>>269725017Leona is the only fucking adult in the room.
>>269725045Hey, what the fuck is this?! You can't put him on the spot like that!
>>269725062She wanted to cement her loss, also get him to man the fuck up and not die a virgin like her.
>>269725045>Merle: At least I'll die knowing you found love and got your dick wet.
>>269725088I'd be mad if Maam got him after this, he's too good for her.
>>269725088>her eyes closed as he said itYep. She was 100% holding on just to hear that.
>>269725088>for Marm this confession came out of nowhere and she never picked up on any signs of Pop feeling like that about herHow dense is she?
>>269725133Denser than Popp, according to Leona.
>>269725028>Popp, I foresaw we would have 12h of uninterrupted baby making sex tonight
>>269725150I'm hearing Brave Heart in my head
>>269725133Leona outright said she's more dense than Popp.
>>269725171>>269725188RIP best girl. You deserved better.
>>269725188>Please Merle! You have to live! live to see me get rejected by Maam!
>>269725264OUR HERO
>>269725264Will this help him land his ultimate spell without getting cockblocked by something?
>>269725213>>269725245>>269725264HERE WE GO
>>269725171Nice, I knew I was right about courage!I thought I was wrong and Leona knew about it before.
>>269725264I can't help but chuckled at "wise man." What's the official translation?
>>269725264LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO
>>269725213>>269725245>>269725264>>269725305Fun fact: In DQ the Sage was one of the most powerful classes in the game, but the standard way to access it was reaching high level in a useless joke class. It's the original source of the "if you're still a virgin at 30 you become a wizard" meme.
>>269725309I want to say Sage?
>>269725338>>269725341Okay, cool. So it's Sage instead of fucking wise man.
>>269725305>>269725338Our little Magikarp has finally evolved into Gyarados
>>269725338Neat. Thanks for the info anon.
>>269725371>Can't even look at MaamSo much for his courage kek
>>269725338Don't tell me this useless joke class is a clown or something. Is that why Popp is the butt-monkey?
>>269725325She lives!
>>269725338Only the Gadabouts/Goof-Offs could promote to Sage just like that. Everyone else (but the Hero) needed a particular item that were in limited supply in-game.
>>269725425Jester/Gadabout
>>269725425>Gadabouts, originally localized as goof-offs, are pretty much useless on the battlefield, but do have a great amount of luck. This allows them to avoid the affects of debilitating spells more often than other characters. The trade-off for this is the fact that these clowns have minds of their own, and the player cannot always control their actions. The gadabout is the only class that can turn into a Sage at Alltrades Abbey without the Words of Wisdom, merely needing to reach level 20 to do so. Rather than take a gadabout from the beginning of the journey with this career advancement in mind, some players opt to instead turn an existing character in to a fop and level them up in the safety of their much stronger peers.
>>269725425Yes and yes.
>>269725338>It's the original source of the "if you're still a virgin at 30 you become a wizard" meme.>Popp becomes a sage by getting a girlfriendWere they doing it on purpose or is this scene one of the things that inspired the meme
>>269725531>>269725548CONVINCINGiu
>>269725658RE ENTER
So if Popp's is courage, then what is Dai's?Is it purity? I remember someone saying his heart is pure.
>>269725687You got it man.
>>269725762This Ruura spell is such a broken bullshit if you can accurately kidnap someone like that.
>>269725883Strange life form, said the living humanoid metal referring to the living blob of metal.
>>269725813Yeah Ruura/Zoom is busted as shit outside of a video game context.
>>269725850Makes sense, she also matches well against Crocodine. Hard for him to dodge her needles and she has better aerial mobility to evade his tornado attack.
>>269726044Niagara Falls.
>>269725621Damn it Leona!
>>269726087>Kill’s fucking faceWonder how/when he will intervene. Probably at the very end after Dai wins.
>>269725658RE-ENTER CHADLAR
>>269724141Stop being a bitch goddamnit.
>>269725850Finally, some fucking respect on Popp's name.
>>269724086Hunk? A bro.
>>269726029Ah yes, suicidal pride. A staple of this manga.
>>269726270I really enjoy how Dai executes shonen cliches.
>>269726198>>269726227I like how Hadlar has come to genuinely enjoy talking with Dai as a rival. It's no longer just about killing the humans for him, this is a matter of settling a contest between equals.
>>269726308>>269726337>the bros nod in agreement>the woman tried to argueEven in the evil side, the woman doesn't get it.
>>269726315Something interesting about Hadlar is that he doesnt really have a backstory. His personal growth came exclusively from fighting Dai’s group so many times, so it makes sense.
>>269726270You wouldn't understand
>>269726308>Hadlar regrets the death of AvanHe truly has grown.
>>269726308Goddamn, I don't remember Avan looking that old before. Being dead sucks.
>>269726308CHINvan spotted
>>269726395Psychotic bitch.
>>269725019Amy...
>>269726270Shut the fuck up Maam.
>>269726308I honestly love this look for Avan
>>269725264FUARK
>>269726401I like to think that everyone thinks that he is a massive chad so they slowly, but surely remember him more and more with an insane jawline.
>>269726436>>269726448She's lost it.
>>269726272The greatest battle commences
>>269726504YES, SHE SOULD'VE DITCHED THAT STUPID CAPE LONG AGO SO I CAN OOGLE AT HER METALLIC BODY
>>269726571EVIL WOMAN SEX
>>269726553>>269726592Shut up Ruby
>>269726553For fuck's sake, Ruby, go back to Sapph
>>269725338Also a fun fact, the Jester/Gadabout class has high luck. Now take a look at Popp's luck stat.
>>269726599H-hayai!
>>269726599S-She's fast!
>>269726599*Teleports behind you*
>>269726642Maambros...
>>269726703Too bad her ass is covered.
>>269726714She is literally fighting Hadlar's strongest general.
>>269726785>tfw she sees your dick
>>269726785>I don't l-love him, you pathetic human!!Now THIS is cope.
>>269726810Somewhere in the world Bechdel shuddered
>>269726853And it FINALLY clicks
>>269726853Finally!
>>269726853SHE WAS TOO OCCUPIED BY CHASING HYUNCKELL'S DICK, ALL THE LESSON AVAN TAUGHT HER ONLY SLOTTED INTO HER DENSE LITTLE BRAIN NOW!
>>269726921Maam, forma de sexo
>>269726853FUCKING FINALLY HOLY SHIT
>>269726940I like to rag on maam but this form and her fights here are so cool
>>269724178This girl is denser than fucking Rito.
>>269727057Orichalconbros... even Maam can break the strongest metal...
>>269727086Too much Hyunkel on the brain please understand.
>>269727250TIGER BREAK
>>269727274Death by a thousand cuts it is.
>>269727348Exploitable last panel.
>>269727519I like to think any other chess pieces would go>bait used to be believable
>>269726436>>269726448>I can save him
>>269727519>getting baited like thisAlbinass...
>>269727555Really? That's not even a touki-powered super punch. Just some metal debris that aren't orichalcon.
>>269724328>>269724353>>269724379The imps are so confused right now.
>>269724933Popp= Man of FEELS
>>269727672IT'S OVER
>>269727672Goodbye, evil metallic tits.
>>269725088Maam is shook
>>269727701Ruby pls
>>269727745>>269727769Man, even the villaisn have it hard in this setting.
>>269727479>Your resistance only makes my penis harder
>>269727745>if I didn't lose, I would have defeated youNo shit, Sherlock. Maybe she's saying kill in the original?
>>269727786>Albinass... you really were a woman...KEK, I can't man.
>>269725931They're distant relatives, even if Albinass doesn't realize it.
>>269725932LOL at Hadlar's reaction
>>269727892>the fucking woman
>>269727918I'm still too used to the Final Fantasy version of this move.
>>269727961Hit the Giga Brakes!
Done for todayCome back tomorrow to see the other battles
>>269728069>>269728090>>269728116Love me some fake heroes.
>>269728116That's a hard 25
>>269728069>>269728090>>269728116The fake heroes are fun characters. Shame they don't get that many appearances.Thanks OP.
Love pages like these, thanks op.
>>269728116Here I thought he's in his 40s.Thanks OP.
>>269725883Mystery nigga
>>269724879Hoimi?I fink this bloke meant heal.>>269725019Behoma?I fink this bird meant fullheal>>269725264Wiseman?I fink this bird meant sage.>>269725325Zaoraru? Zaoriku?I fink this bird meant zing and kazing.>>269725491Ruura?I fink this bloke meant zoom.>>269726667Begiragon?I fink this bird meant kasizz.>>269726743Behoimi?I fink this bird meant midheal.>>269726961Gira?I fink this bloke meant sizz.>>269727397Iora? Io?I fink this bloke meant boom and bang.>>269727803Raidein? Medoroa? Betan? Merazomas?I fink this blokes meant zapple, frizz cracker, donk and kafrizz.>>269727918Grand cross?I fink this bloke meant pearly gates.>>269727961Gigadein?I fink this bloke meant kazap >>269728069Mera?I fink this bloke meant frizz.
>>269727555Jobber metal strikes again.
>>269724303>>269724328>>269724353Say what you want about Chiu, but I fucking love that bastard. He had a lot of growth for a secondary character.
>>269726504For some reason her reaction is really funny to meApparently having appendages is the most outlandish thing that could happen
>>269726087>KillVearnWhat a smug motherfucker.
>>269726921>Pussy exposedThank you, Berk-san.
Gotta say, I actually dig the pantyhose they added on Maam for the anime. It's fitting despite technically being "censorship", and they even took advantage of it and made it so it would get ripped, which is arguably hotter.
>>269729595Yeah I lime the panty hose better as well
>>269726853>maam thinks sbout all her friends>pictures HUNKel shirtless.Heh
>>269729978tbf that dude sure is shirtless a lot
I forget, is next volume when THAT person returns?
>>269725621Old couple bickering.
>>269727555Orichalcum stocks really dropped ever since it was introduced.
>Vearn and Killvearn watching while Dai and his party cast a suspicious spell right under the castle for multiple minutes
>>269732391Vearn being the final boss isn't allowed to move from final room of his dungeon. Killvearn has no real obligation to help Vearn at all.
>>269732391Killvearn was confident his traps would kill any intruders.
>>269726853Where's his shirt?
>>269732915Additionally, Vearn had a good reason to think that he won.
>>269732391I bet it's like watching some telenovela or something for them.>a love triangle?>no Vearn-sama, I believe that's a love rectangle
>>269726571https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71yijMm2spYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOKUvqFD2OY
>>269734044Still a fucking great twist
>>269734413And then he got BTFO by an event bigger plot twist, kek.
>>269732391They were entertained watching Popp strongly. Also, it would be unsportsmanlike to attack before they were ready.
>>269727519Nooo! You can't trick your enemies with cowardly bait like that scumbag Zaboera. reeeeeeeee!
>>269724717>>269724739>>269724793>>269724820Popp does not deserve a girl such as Merle like holy shit, she's a literal commoner with zero spells beyond her fortune telling, yet she's one of the most useful characters in the series.Avan would kneel to her heroism and selflessness.
>>269730708No shirt can contain him.
remember that strong AoE gravity attack that took multiple dragons at once? even Wise man Popp isn't wise enough to use it even again. Popp is a fucking retard on multiple levels.
So Hyunckel is Shiryu + Ikki
>>269735639If some of those dragons managed to get up, what makes you think that attack would work on more powerful enemies?
>>269727536
>>269735851Because Popp magic is stronger now.
>>269736151Doesn't matter, gravity magic tends to be shit when you're working with JRPG mechanics.
>>269735851It's crowd control that deals damage, even if all it does is to make enemies face down on the ground, it sets Popp and his allies for the perfect and easiest combo opportunity. It would also deal with Zaboera's goons in a couple of casts too, they cannot be stronger than dragons.
>>269736260Again, that spell is a more a spur of the moment thing and it clearly doesn't work the way you think it does even if he's stronger now.
>>269736202The opposite. JRPG mechanics give preference to raw status over spell quality. Vern and his "this is just mera" is an in universe example
>>269736334You mean the author cannot handle a spell of such utility and just dropped it. Popp turns into a Medora spam and sometimes casting fire spells on the side, up until the very end he never casts anything else. No utility, no thunder, no reflection, no heals.Him being a wise man literally meant nothing outside of the one time revive on Merle.
>>269736442That still means jack shit because Betan is a more of a status effect spell. You use what is guaranteed to make the enemy react, not something that might work on them.>>269736451>Him being a wise man literally meant nothing outside of the one time revive on Merle.You haven't read the entire manga.
>>269736536Status effect spell capable to kill several dragon on two different occasions, of course "satus effect spell"
>>269736536Betan isn't a status spell because it does damage. It crushes things it's explicitly a damage spell. It's like Final Fantasy's Demi.
>>269737363And if it can't actually do what you think it does, so what? You seem to have forgotten that Betan still takes up a fuckton of MP and some enemies like Baran can straight up resist it, Popp might be stronger now but he's still no Vearn.
>>269737363I meant that it's NOT like Demi.>>269737566Popp's always had a much too convenient case of "I ran out of magic power" whenever, he's already shown to be able to use it several times as per the craters when he trained for the necklace to glow (anime confirms that's what made those craters). If he's allowed to use Betan there I don't see why it's not an option otherwise. His MP is clearly enough to keep using it. He even spams bang spells like he's Bejita later.
>>269737684But in the end it still boils down to 'Can we really expect this to have an effect when boss-level enemies have straight up been able to BTFO it?'. It's rather like asking why does Dai have to have his sheath instead of letting Popp call down the weather, that's clearly too slow for more powerful enemies and both of them had no other options to try at that time.
>>269737788But Betan isn't too slow at all, Popp already casted it instantly later on into Baran's arc and it's clear that it can't be reflected because it's not projectile based.
>>269737788And yet Popp use weaker spells when he rans out of MP to cast Medoroa. Strong enemies can be defeated by stacking damage with lesser attacks.Just because an attack can't oneshot a strong enemy doesn't mean it's useless. If so, Bloody Scryed and Avan Slash would also be just as useless as Betan, but those two attacks depend on the power of whoever uses them.
>>269737980Because Betan is not treated as a spell that 'does damage to hit points'? I don't know why are you arguing this when you literally see how Baran nullifies it and he also explains that he only used Rariho on Dai because Dai was too weak to resist it, same thing with why Zaboera doesn't just try use his instant kill spell every time. See pic related, Baran also asks Popp if he expected the spell to work on him when he has to be stronger than the dragons he commands, meaning that there is a level difference aspect that's taken into account here.
>>269736034>Take you time to make a weapon for this bitch>She just breaks it as soon as she gets in battle
>>269738812>not treated as a spell that 'does damage to hit points'?But it is. Baran broke through because he was too strong, that's it.
>>269739638In JRPG terms it means that Betan =/= Mera. Betan would have a success rate formula while Mera has a magic damage formula, which would explain why Popp still tries to use some damaging spells and not Betan.
>>269739783Betan is a damaging spell
>>269740227>'Popp is a retard for not using this spell more often'>Baran completely breaks it and insinuates that it is in fact not effective against bosses>In a series that is practically a boss rushNo, you're the retard who can't see that there's a good reason why he doesn't try that any more.
>>269740666>insinuates that it is in fact not effective against bossesHe never says anything about bosses as Dai isnt a video game and even in games things like FF's Demi is only ineffective on bosses for balance reasons. Baran only mentions that he is stronger than the dragons and that is 100% it. I also never called him that as I'm a different Anon.
Around this point is when the anime switches to its second OP and third ED. Beware that like how how the first OP had a v2 with new footage focused on Baran, the second also has a v2 with massive spoilers.https://youtu.be/bkl_sMalhzghttps://youtu.be/2s-7Dj-DGHUPersonally my favorite ED is the second one, which was introduced in the leadup to the raid on the Field of Deathhttps://youtu.be/-ziUEh8XHtQ
>>269741986>Final Hadlar remembering Avan as something distant and unreachable>Vearn enters with that one panel of him grasping the sun>Lyrics contain "Hikari no you ni isshun ni" ("In an instant like a flash of light")>For that one line they show Popp putting his hand on a shaken Dai's shoulder and smilingSOUL
>>269725338>>269725362Japanese class name is 賢者 ("kenja"), and the original JP meme is that a 30-year-old virgin becomes a kenja.See the intro of Reincarnated as a Slime, where Rimuru gets the "Great Sage" ability because he mumbled about his virginity while being reincarnated.
>>269735124It's funny how both Kilvearn and Vearn become Popfags.
>>269741986The second OP is extremely kino.So many callbacks and references and over half of them you wouldn't get until you're done with the series first.
>>269723314It's over
>>269729978Classic Maam
>>269741986It took forever for Dai to change openings so we had evil Crocodine and Hyunkel in the op long after they defected, but this made the wait worth it.My HEROES…
>>269746409As a minor thing, i really appreciate how even random scrimblos get a cameo in the op during the battle against Zaboera’s goons. Always been a bit of a sucker for stuff like that.
>>269746409OP1 did had a 2nd version after Flazzard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRdpCrJd1MMIt even changed when the Hadlar's guard was actually revealed
>>269746409Flora's clothes are so fucking retarded.Even for nineties armor it looks dumb as hell. How was this allowed?
>>269747206The bit where the shinei kidan shows up in the op is so fucking kino
>>269747206Beyond the big alterations the OPs had a lot of smaller alterations too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYhRKsrXHU0&t=5sSame goes for OP2
>>269747542Intimidation maybe? Shoulder pads make people look a lot bigger than they really are. Look at Vearn, he looks fucking huge, he is, but the wide shoulder pads make him look so much bigger than he really is.
>>269747823Vearn's pads actually have form and /fa/ and he's also got a decent color scheme.Flora looks like she just stuck some boxes on her shoulders and the orange and blue is an absolutely hideous color combination.
>>269748216Yeah I know she doesn't have the bulk to sell it. Her shoulder pads in the Avan oneshot looked better.
>>269747542>t.reigen
>>269725171>>269725213Personally I hear this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGnL9Lk_4pk
>>269725264HERO
>>269727613But her armour is orichalcon.
>>269727593>I just need to "get the timing right"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SANDROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>269750855It isn't.Maam's armor is made from the same stuff as HUNK's armor
Lon Berk is a hack.
>>269742519>Lyrics contain "Hikari no you ni isshun ni" ("In an instant like a flash of light")>For that one line they show Popp putting his hand on a shaken Dai's shoulder and smilingIIRC Popp gives a speech about humans' short lives containing those words? And then in the very final moments of the story, Dai is being overpowered and about to die but remembering Popp's words gives him the courage to push himself to the limit and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat
>>269728116Thank you for posting.
>>269755203Who's ready?
>>269755214Not me.
