Will you get in legal trouble if you torrent anime in Japan?
Pffft, obviously. Now please finance my anime bro
>>271172755I thought you people had VPN if you have enough for a trip to Japan? How did you think Westerners were able to play Kantai Collection?
They'll think you're so deeply retarded that any your activity is unprosecutable.>inb4 esl, spic, dbs bambo
>>271172755In Japan people go to prison for simply piracy.
>>271172755Japan literally have fucking crazy copy right law. What the fuck are you doing OP.
>>271172755Just watch the ads on AT-X, TV tokyo, NHK, cartoon network japan, animax.>Which of those two is illegal?>downloading TV shows.>uploading and downloading TV shows.>guy goes through door of "upload and download".>both of them are illegal.Reccording for yourself is legal, streaming from sites as aniwave and similar is legal but anything else is illegsl.
>>271172988shit.should I format my harddrive?>>271172840is a VPN actually a guarantee of safety?
>>271172843Post more smug cat fuuuck
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>>271172755>Westoid will go to japan just to try to break the law
>>271173038 a
>>271173027Just use VPN and xdcc. I wouldn't fuck with any P2P and a foreigner
I still remember the time Kamen Rider W (not the new anime the older tokusatsu) was being torrented in the Imperial Palace. Funniest shit to me.
>>271172755I haven't been able to access nyaa for a week now, and I have no idea why.
>>271173417Kamen Rider W is goated so that makes sense.
>>271172755Get a GeoIP blocker and block every first world country if you're worried about Japan asking for assistance. Don't forget New Zealand. Also consider renting a VPS offshore and installing a torrent client on it that you SFTP into. Also maybe consider a VPN if you don't feel like doing that.
>>271173444Dunno about the site itself but a server I rent in the EU hasn't been able to download torrent files from Nyaa so I've been proxying the request elsewhere to do it.
>>271173512It must be an ISP thing then, I guess a VPN would fix it.
>>271172755No. Only if you are actively distributing stuff. The people who appear on the news are usually groups who leak and distribute stuff. Not people who download them. But better not be too obvious about it. Do as the others have said and use a vpn.
>write effortpost about nip copyright law and how it was elevated from civic to criminal matter>4chan shadowbans it and trashes itI guess the tl;dr is you can get 8 years in prison these days. But that's mostly used as a threat to get the cameraman/ripper to rat on people back in Korea/Vietnam/etc. American style over-prosecution so you'll deal.
>>271173444Got blocked in the nordics couple months agoThe proxies work fine
>>271172755Now that we are talking about the legality of things, how prosecutable is translating manga on /a/ (no distribution to any aggregator site or wthanot, just simply translating within the threads).
They havent gone after meAnd I wish them luck trying to get an American in the Deep South
>>271173799You are like a flea to them. Annoying, but too little and too many out there for them to care individually about you. Also, you have to be in the country.
>>271173636The problem is seeding can count as distributing. The chances of them going after you are very low but the consequences are steep.
>>271173875Almost nobody seeds.
>>271173356huh I downloaded one 1970s series off irc with xdcc last year.was surprised that the quality was higher than any of the torrents up.is that safer than torrenting?and is there a way to do it with obscure films/music?
>>271173872I work as a translator, I was always wondering if showing my past work (fansubs) would ever bite me in the ass if shown to the wrong people (living in the US), I think mostly employers don't give a shit but it's not like I know every story out there from other people so there's always that fear.
>>271173444the theory is some isp in st petersburg blocked a bunch of sites and in nordics the traffic would go through that isp and so 504Supposedly the sites can route the traffic elsewhere
>>271174209I was thinking of doing some translation work if I learned japanese.Guess translating manga for /a/ isn't very useful, because you can't put that shit on your resume.
can you not like set up a torrent box in a server in russia or something then just hit up that IP (through a VPN even)only issue is going to all that trouble to DL anime probably gets you on government watchlists thinking you're doing something important
>>271173636>>271173553>>271173491Almost all VPNs don't allow port forwarding anymore and are basically useless for torrenting
You wouldn't download a car, would you?
>>271173038That smug enough for you?
>>271172755Just find some cafe with decent wifi
>>271172755Yes.https://youtube.com/watch?v=1rEoHOxuZ3E&pp=ygUVSmFwYW4gZXhlY3V0aW9uIGNydWVs
>>271174672So then rent a cheap VPS and install a torrent client on it and SFTP into it.
>>271172755That site is older than you
going there for a week next month and I kind of want to torrent so I have stuff to watch on the return flight...but I dont know if that is a good idea. I dont want to get locked up. I have a VPN.
>>271172755Never once downloaded anime during my Japan trip last year, but I had some anime files in my laptop that I couldn't even get to watch because I was walking like a madman most of the time.
>>271172755yes, yakuza will find you and skin you alive.
>>271174904Lmao got me, imagine going to jail for torrenting, my 3rd world life is hellish but atleast I can download and seed without any worries
>>271172755>buy a VPNat that point just pay for your entertainment, christ
>>271175577OP is talking about inside Japan where they'll actually send FUCKO squad after you just for thinking about it. I've never needed to use a VPN but even I know Japan is really aggressive about piracy. I wouldn't risk it. I'd buy a VPN before going to Japan not that I'd ever want to.
>>271175577problem is a lot of said entertainment is impossible to find legally
>>271174904that seems pretty autistic way to handle things>oh yeah we're humane by randomly deciding the execution date
>>271173684Get fucked effortposter
>>271176052And even if you can find it "legally" it's not like you're supporting the developers any more or less if you buy it at a second hand store.
>>271173417QRD?
>>271176436I genuinely forgot what the proof was beyond a screencap but someone found that a Kamen Rider W episode was being torrented from the castle. This was over a decade ago so I don't know if anyone on /m/ would have the proof. I'd also like to point out that Prince Hisahito was about 3 years old at the time, the strike zone for most Kamen Rider/Sentai watchers.
Nothing makes me angrier than the total disinterest in preservation of their works Japanese people have. Color pages from manga alone are counted in millions yet they just let it all rot in dingy storerooms. And then they have the gall to bitch about foreigners pirating their works they aren't even selling.
>>271176720I don't think 3 year olds are cognizant enough to enjoy that stuff...?
>>271176731Nintendo is a good example of this. They don't give a shit about archiving any of their games.Companies just let turbo autist fans do it themselves.
>>271173684Can you link to the post? If what you say is true then there is something terribly, terribly wrong with how this site is administered if a post about copyright law can get banned while countless shitty posts and threads are not.
>>271173684That shit's so fucking arbitrary. It hadn't hit me on /a/ until just now. Getting real sick of all these new hurdles.
>>271176768Bright colors and flashes are all you need but I was watching Saban's Power Ranger monstrosity when it was first airing as well. I could at least keep up with suit guy fights monster. https://helpmegrowmn.org/HMG/DevelopMilestone/3Years/index.htmlI think 3 is one of the perfect ages for this.
>>271174209I heard from an editor that companies look down if you show them pirate stuff that has been on the net. Better just stick to your knowledge of the language and passion for the subject.
>>271172755I lived in Japan for 3 years before the coof and torrented hundreds of TBs of anime. You'll be fine. Just don't distribute them.
>>271172755you should be streamingforget what other people say, the vid file is a jumble of random letters on some private hosting site which is obfuscated and isn't even a vid file until it's assembled inside the player
>>271177591Do people still use Perfect Dark? Is/Was it ever good?
>>271172755>hayate no gotokusoul
>>271174209I can answer this, knowing a few faggots who have gone legit with fan translations in their portfolio. It's fairly common but you want to avoid sharing being involved with IPs that were being simulcast/already licensed at the time your group was active on it.Though there are exceptions where you're not acting in bad faith. Like if if you're working on chapters that are several years away from English publication, and the publisher hasn't C&Ded the project. But if you were involved with a group that basically said fuck-you and kept working anyway (dog bless), it's not something to share.
>>271179399I'd guess being in a group that did patreons/donations/ads also exactly wouldn't look good. Making money from piracy isn't exactly something to be proud of.Legally speaking making scanlations isn't piracy, it's just copyright breach. Selling scanlations on the other hand is piracy, and is far worse legally.
>>271173896Retard
>>271176731>And then they have the gall to bitch about foreigners pirating their works they aren't even selling."What part of "Not for sale" do you not understand, piggu?"
>>271174555I think many people can be both be fans either by pirating or/and buying from creators. The difference between someone that pays or doesn't pays for a type media is that they aren't participating with the maintence and well being to either a show/manga or creator directly but when the show theirs loves, its difficult to not think about them as someone that truely love something specially when there is no alternatives on to get these works legally on peoples countries on theirs native languages. Not everybody can understand english, chinese, spanish, korean or japanese.I don't think that piracy should be the end goal to a show to be popular back in the day and today too but we as people are very limited by ours own circumstances and monetarily limitations. We consume way more manga, anime or any other types of media that we can possibily pay for being middle class citizens than any other time before of the internet, and ours pockets didn't increase the same size regarding as the increase of content that we can consume in ours life time.In the end of the day its not a simple matter of pay up or save up till you can afford something since people incomes can be either 2x to 100x less than trying to buy something in either yens, yuans, dollars and wons. Its people choice to either try and give back some love to the creators by monetary exchange in these situations.Fan subbing came out love from people that wanted to show others something that they thought its was very cool and people didn't understood back in the day since there wasn't any monetary value gain from this, but pirating right now isn't only about gainning a quick buck from selling some bootleg stuff, but also sharing and preserving a culture that many people came to care about I wish that every anon had the money for theirs chineses image movies. >>271177591Based. I wish I had the smarts and money to preserver many old series. You are doing a good job in my opinion. Thanks alot.
>>271174093If you haven't got a knock on the door after a full year then you're good.
>>271173896Spoken like a true reddit cuck that only cares for himself and NOTHING but himself.
>>271172755If I lived in Japan and knew Japanese I would proudly and loyally purchase anime and manga because I would be directly supporting the Motherland and not a single thing would go to westerners.
>>271172755You'll only get arrested in cucked European countries like the UK and Germany
>>271176731This saddens me more than making me angrier since even the official distributors may not have the original material to work with and many masterful colored pages can be lost because of carelessness.That happened to me some days ago searching for official site for scans for Negima and noticing that many colored pages aren't there but they are from older scans projects or from scans from tankbons.Ken Akamatsu's limited special editions also kills me when I try to acquirer any one of them and its behind a 4x the original price without shipping wall, but I am thankful to him that he released all Love Hina original volumes on his site to people see without paying for them and try to preserve a lot of older titles that people don't care about from others authors there.
Fuck hiromoot and whatever he's added that purges posts based on keywords now. No wonder this thread is filled with retards that don't know anything about anything.Last time I make any effort. I'm leaving you idiots to wallow in your own shit and lies. If you're on the internet in 2024 and are afraid of the copyright police you're literally too stupid to breath.
>>271173027>is a VPN actually a guarantee of safety?Depends on the VPN, a lot of them no. I don't remember which but there is at least one that literally doesn't keep records, so they actually can't provide the records to any legal request.
>>271180863Its Express VPN iirc.
>>271176731>>271176784>>271180549The Japanese are extremely illiberal when it comes to public domain and Toho protects Kurosawa like Disney protects Mickey Mouse.>Pre-1971: Japanese copyright law for films extends to 30 years after the death of the author>1971: Japanese copyright law for films changes to 50 years after publication>Early 2000s: someone starts selling DVDs of early Kurosawa movies because hey, it's been 50 years so they're fair game>Toho flips their shit and sues>Courts rule that ACHKSHUALLY the older copyright law applies for films made before 1971 and that copyright extends 38 years after the death of the author; since Kurosawa died in 1999 this means that Toho keeps the rights until at least 2038
>>271173027>is a VPN actually a guarantee of safety?Depends, if in your country they have to give out your data to the police or to allow "lawful interception" or whatever, then not.>I don't remember which but there is at least one that literally doesn't keep records, so they actually can't provide the records to any legal request.That's a lie.
>people can shill VPNs and private trackers here>but a well thought out post explaining why they're bullshit is insta-ban
I see jap IP torrenting my vocaloid albums all the time
>>271173027>VPN safetyThe cyberpunk & privacy general on /g/ has a link in the OP with recommended privacy respecting services. The private tracker general can also give you a better insight
>>271173684You just made me realize that maybe the qr needs a session history feature like the clipboard history on operative systems letting you paste stuff you copied in the past
>>271182384Doesn't count, it's obviously those pesky Americans on military bases bleeding Japan dry with their unlawful torrents.
it's rather, rather disheartening that it's very easy to find trannylations but moderately to impossibly hard to find raws.
>>271181528>>Courts rule that ACHKSHUALLY the older copyright law applies for films made before 1971 and that copyright extends 38 years after the death of the author; since Kurosawa died in 1999 this means that Toho keeps the rights until at least 2038...that's how it would work in the US as well, laws don't affect things retroactively.Take the Rurouni Kenshin guy. 90% sure what got him was possession of CP not the purchasing of it, because everyday you possess it is technically a new possession. If they would have made it legal to possess only illegal to buy he would have been in the clear.
>>271183294>that's how it would work in the US as wellNo it wouldn't. The standing law at the time of the case, passed in 1971, decreed that films made before 1971 had copyright protection until 50 years after they released. 50 years passed, some guy started selling bootleg DVDs of 50+ year-old Kurosawa movies and then Toho sued and the court found that the pre-71 law - as opposed to the '71 law, which was at that point current - applied because of when the film was produced and so the copyright was actually the lifetime of the creator plus 38 years. It was horseshit.
>>271183488Anon... are you not understanding what you're typing out?>The film was made when copyright laws were X.>Some time later, the law was changed to Y.>The court rules that since [film] was made during laws X, that laws X apply to it.That is how it would work in the US as well.
>>271182421Yes yes. Services and "private" trackers so secure they're advertised on one of the most popular websites on the internet daily!Again; Learn how the fucking software works. It's impossible to "secure" torrents or make them "private". By its very nature the torrent protocol is open. You're falling for bullshit being peddled by faggots trying to profit off data that's being shared for free.
>>271183172This is BY DESIGN. Raws used to be open to all. Now they're locked up behind >muh sekrit club by the same trannylators you're complaining about. It's also the same reason why registration on nyaa is no longer open and nothing but "official" rips of CR and related bullshit are allowed/"trusted".All so the so-called cabal can reap thousands of dollars in profits every month from clueless idiots that think they're providing some kind of unique service. It wasn't like this before the 2010s.It's so bad now we have normalfags paying more for shit like "real debrid" than they were paying for censored offical streaming websites. Never mind the idiots that come here and can't figure out how to use a magnet link or xdcc bot.
>>271184997i thought debrid services were anon-approved protip methods of getting raws?
>>271172755Just don't seed
>>271172755Realistically no one is gonna put any actual effort in stopping individual pirates. I've seen people receiving letters at best and frankly the ISP doesn't give a shit either, they don\t want you in jail unsubscribed from their service.
>>271183634>That is how it would work in the US as well.No, dunkass. If that was the case then Steamboat Willie ('28) would have gone public in '84 because when it was made US copyrights were for 28 years automatically and another 28 optionally and the Jungle Book ('67) would have been copyright free as of last year because copyright law barely changed at all between 1909 and 1976.In Japan the 1971 law specifically set the copyright expiration for films made prior to 1971 at 50 years after release, then at the turn of the millennium just as they were about to start losing their famous Kurosawa films Toho came crying and the court gutted the law for them.
>>271185123>anon-approved protip methodsIt's a fucking VPS some fag rented that connects to a torrent you could have downloaded yourself and caches the data. You pay them $10-$20+ for something they got for free+$1. Then you go and shill it for free like it's some amazing invention.You wanna pay for warez? We have this wonderful thing called newsgroups. They used to be included with your ISP bill. Now they cost like $5 a month tops. Unlimited supply of warez, everything archived forever, first place anything shows up before it filters down to all this crap (((anons))) shill here like private torrent trackers. Private torrent trackers don't even have unique content you know. It's all just crap they got from somewhere else. At best you'll get some retarded p2pfag's badly encoded BDRip which is shit because they have no idea what they're doing. But they always have a legion of 20 fags sucking their cocks on discord and none of those yes-men will tell them their work is shit. These people actively avoid learning anything and are proud of it. I see them parroting wrong information from 25+ year old doom9 posts all of the time.Again; LEARN HOW THE FUCKING SOFTWARE WORKS. If you knew how it worked you wouldn't fall for lies like "private trackers". When anyone can connect to the swarm for free and there is nothing they can do about it.You know what a "private tracker" really is? It's a fag in his mother's basement renting a $2 a month VPS then doxing every other person that connects to it. They keep of list of EVERY IP ADDRESS of each and every user. Somehow this is "secure". So says the retards.The real private clubs (like topsites) don't advertise. They've been around for 4+ decades now operating on the internet and rarely attract the attention of law enforcement because they know how to operate without being retards. These "anons" you're talking about are dumb asses. Which is why they advertise their "private" p2p websites
Idk. Japan IPs show up on the peers list frequently.
>>271172755You won't get into trouble anywhere for torrenting anything.
>>271185472Jungle book is already in free domain, unless you meant disney's version. But it's Disney, laws are written with them excluded because corruption.
