Why were older anime girls so ugly? Even the canonically attractive ones look like pic related.
do you prefer no nose? lmao
Are these your beauty standards?
Old Anime Girl bread time
>>271928824This is what the alphabet soup squad has done to us
>>271928824I didn't watch this, but while I think there are some old anime/manga styles that look ugly, I wouldn't call this one of them.
>>271929219No, this is
>>271930016Did her nose get cut off?
>>271930016Autism and missing limbs is not attractive.
>>271930222Animated noses are unattractive. There's a reason they were phased out of anime.
>>271930346You may not like them but it's still better than no-nose monstrosities
>>271928824
>>271928824Anime girls started becoming attractive in the 80s.
>>271928824>Why were older anime girls so ugl-ACK!
>>271931013>t. moebuta
>>271931269You have so many boards to browse, and you picked this one?
>>271928824Nigga you gay
>>271931037>>271931358Anime girls reached peak attractiveness in the 80's.
>>271929219Ah, now she looks cute.
>>271928824Gundam 79 had a low budget. And even then Sayla looked nice.
>>271931357Alright which board is for 70s anime?
>>271928824The modern depiction of anime girls with larger eyes, smaller noses and such started in 70s shoujo manga before becoming widespread during then 80s. So, yeah, you'll find many 70s and early 80s characters that don't really go for the same style you'd see later on (and 70s shoujo also generally would be rather weird looking for modern tastes, with stuff like giant eyelashes).You can see a big example of this change with the art shift during Urusei Yatsura's (original) anime run. The series by the halfway point look nothing like the early episodes.
>>271931638>>>/m/
>>271928824>Black Lagoon was 20 years ago
>>271931417Early 90s were pretty good as well
>>271931987That's specifically for robot and sci-fi shit
>>271931638the 70s were great
>>271931417>>271932300Bulma was the peak and she got uglier with every progression of the anime.
>>271932300
>>271928824Older anime girls are gorgeous but they're only for Alpha Male CHADS. You beta zoomers with broccoli hair can stick with your bug eyed, no nose, slop for hair, moeblobs that are cheating on the MC because modern generation is full of cucks.
>>271933333They really don't have the same vavoom they used too.
It's the hair I miss.
>>271933507
Half a century later, still on top, undefeated.
>>271933556
>>271932746yeah and I like Sayaka too
>>271929219Cute
>>271933759good man
>>271930222Noses will always be unattractive you twitter freak. Even male anime men don't have them.
Anyone here want some gum?
>>271934141
>>271934235
>>271934141>twitter??Grow the fuck up.
>>271929219Nose too big by current anime standards.
>>271928824leftenant Matirda-san is BEAUTIFUL
>>271929401Hell yeahMy favourite subject... old anime girl's noses
>>271934769Hiromi my beloved
>>271931591Based Sayla-san appreciator
>>271932990Leiji girls rule, they make me wish women were real
>>271934789For all the lusting after "tomboys" modern fags do and for how important her show is to western otakudom I'm shocked more people don't love her
>>271929401isn't that the bitch from chargeman ken?
>>271932256>Cutey Honey was 53 years ago
>>271934899that's Trixie from Speed Racer. I don't know what her japanese name was. I honestly don't trust anyone's ever actually watched Japanese Speed Racer.
>Half a century later, still on top, undefeated.Absolute TrvkeAll the semen spilled to Honey is what keeps Uncle Go spry and young
>>271934899>>271934944Michi. I did watch it in Japanese, it's one of the few subbed 60s anime.
>>271930346>Animated noses are unattractiveOnly when you are a mediocre artist who can't draw them.
>>271934874How can she be a tomboy when she doesn't have short hair and big tits?
>>271934944>>271935015Sometimes I forget that actual Japanese Speed Race existedTrixie feels like a fairly natural localization for Michi honestly, I don't hate it too much
Nagahama's early death was a tragedy for the medium
>>271935038>Oka Hiromi>Long hair>especially in the 70suhhhh no>How can she be a tomboyAnd its almost like there is something aside from being tan and being very attractive and having big breasts and being just like one of the guys but with those big breasts and being a childhood friend and not having eyes for anyone else and swearing like a sailor and having muscled abdominal muscles and whatever else you fucking retards can think of that makes a girl a tomboy.
>>271935061>Meaning:Bringer of joy; Voyager. Trixie is a bold and spirited girl's name of Latin origin, meaning “bringer of joy.Huh. And here I thought it was just a cute mod era nickname for... I duno Trish or something. it's funny how some names and words are a lot older than they sound.
>>271933507I really wish Lodoss War wasn't boring as all hell.
>>271935168Have you tried not being retarded?
>>271935024Alita is so beautiful man, they don't make characters like this anymore
>>271935147It all depends on frequency of use I guessIts like how we have Johns and Matthews but not many Moabs or Methuselahs
>>271935168It's boring only if you believe what your favorite eceleb anituber told you.
>>271935242Nope, I've never even finished itI might try again though; I recall seeing a gif with a cute fairy character and that's calling me back to it
>>271935295>NopeYou want to take a mulligan on that one? > I recall seeing a gif with a cute fairy characterYou might be thinking something else.
70s girls can be cute.
>>271935139Sorry but modern tomboys are just sexier in every way. 70's girls are too prudish in comparison.
>>271935411I love 60s and 70s designs in general
>>271935696Oh I meant to post this one, akane-chan
>>271928824Rumiko girls shit on any "generic JK #2473" of today.
>>271935945
>>271935337>You want to take a mulligan on that one? Not at all, because I am clearly retarded if I can't see the 500 iq genius of taking a half dozen Wizardry and D&D concepts and stewing them inside the mind of a Jap as an engaging plot. The moment it got engaging with Parn and his friends making some headway on their journey it seemed to jumped immediately somewhere else to explain the entire backstory of the evil king to me, it felt incredibly disengaging to go from some character moments with our protagonist's squad to an exposition dump and it took me right out of it. The production is beautiful otherwise, the animation is fantastic, and the style is full of 90s charm but Jap "western" fantasy writing was just as bad back then as it is today.>might be thinking of something elseIt may have very well come from some /m/ show instead, I'll have to do some digging to find it>>271935293>y-you hate my old show? Y-y-you must watch anitubers Massive fucking projection, half of you retards in pre-2000s threads download your entire personalites from youtubers. Incredible how so many of you faggots "magically" discovered Ogin Bat at the exact same time, truly wonderous.
>>271935642I absolutely beg to differHiromi Oka is intensely erotic
>>271936136>Not at all, because I am clearly retardedWell so long as you admit it.
>>271935024>>271935246miss her like you wouldn't fucking believe
>>271936215I did so right off the bat, and you didn't believe me you fucking speedreader
>>271935295>>271936136Dunbine, L-gaim?
>>271935509I love hanii so fucking muchNew animated series fucking when?
>>271936347Possibly Rayearth
>>271935642>bug eyes>line for nose>thick manly eyebrows>walks around naked>sexierNah.
>>271936347>>271936401>DunbineYes! That's absolutely it, a million thanks, you've solved a big mystery for me.
>>271935642Still gets mogged by >>271935680 in every department.Monkey is only a tomboy for modern tomboyfags, she brings all the girly drama one could as for, but without being cute herself. You're doubly gay if you take monkey, because it's gay drama with a nearly-male body.Noriko, on the other hand, is very simple-minded and boyish in attitude, navigating herself the girly drama spurred by other characters, and still retains a feminine appearance. It's double straight to go after her, because it's the feminine body but without the gay girly drama.Also cool robots instead of gay twilight vampires.
>>271936499np
>>271936512ThisAlso Hiromi Oka is the Peak of Erotic Female Athleticism
Don't even have to use the full Gundam power. ZZ girls alone wipe the floor with any modern waifubait.
>>271936263Same
>>271936617Helps that she actually makes an honest, open, unrelenting effort, to get to her goals. She's inspiring AND beautiful.Modern tomboys like monkey just act in secrecy, creating drama through dishonesty and lies. It's literally "tomboys for women".>>271936704Try Roux alone, no need to bring Elle or Puru into it.Is there any old Gundam show that doesn't have at least 1 incredibly perfect chick?0079 has Sayla, Z has Mouar, ZZ has Roux, CCA has Nanai, F91 has Cecily, 0080 has Christina, 0083 has Keith and 8th MS team has Karen...
>>271936704
>>271928824The coloring is really ugly.It need smore black lines in the hair.She looks ugly with the missing black lines on her hair, she doesn't look that bad with her hat on.
>>271936512Excuse you. Kanbaru is extremely cute. Her personality is also very boyish. When she banters with Araragi she just sounds like a perverted guy friend. It's very rare and refreshing to see a female character to talk with so little feminine restraint while simultaneously leveraging her feminine charm. It's almost like watching a genderbent guy.
>>271934801I don't find her attractive after the beache episode where she wore sunglasses. She looked too mucb like her brother with sunglasses from the memes.
Asuka Rei
>>271936968>It's almost like watching a genderbent guy.At least that's one thing I can agree with gatarifags on. Still, I like prefer my tomboys to still be very much female.>she just sounds like a perverted guy friendBiggest turnoff, it's what made Kaoru the worst girl in Zettai Karen Children. It's the feminine restraint being barely able to contain the lack of female tact that makes tomboys charming. I want chicks to be retarded and failing to hide that behind feminility, but I want the feminility to be natural and overflowing instead of forced.In a sense, the monkey is the perfect animal for her, because it really monkey-paw'd the fans desires for a tomboy, since it gave the a "genderbent guy" instead.
>>271936704Fa will always be best gundam girl for me
>>271936704yeah ZZ was underrated
I like her voice.
>>271937362>Female Char>call her CharaHow did they get away with this?
>>271937114I just don't like her as much as I like Hiromi Oka (or any of the non-monkey monogatari girls for that matter)
>>271936834>0083 has KeithYou mean Nina. Also>Z has MouarThat's the most random pick I've ever seen. Out of Fa, Haman, Emma, Four, Rosamia, Sarah and Beltorchika, you pick Mouar.
>>271931987Tell them to stop spamming hags first.
>>271936969You're gay, son.
>>271937558>non-monkey monogatari girlsI only watched the first season, and some snippets of the second, but it seems pretty hit-n-miss with women. Kanbaru and Senjougahara are both meh, but the other girls are fine.>>271937601>Ninalol>random pickJust goes to show Zeta is so full of great girls. I don't like Sarah, Beltorchika or Rosamia all that much, but any of the others is a great pick, with maybe Emma at the top. I do like Mouar though, she's cute and dedicated, nearly autistically so, it's endearing.>>271937619Ok, I retract my previous statement, 0083's best girl is neither Keith nor Nina, Cima is all the rage.
>turns an entire generation into loliconsYeap, I'm thinking ZZ was based.
>>271928824da fuk you say about my wife?
People were generally uglier back then. Every subsequent generation is more beautiful than the last. That is why the older generation hates them.
>>271936170I want Hiromi to bully me like she does Goemon!
>>271929219I vomited
Tomino phoned the publisher up to complain Saylas nipples weren't pink enough.
>>271937751Kick you and step on you? Looking back, that was the first blatant feetservice anime. Every episode would have a scene with Hiromi in her room and the animators wouldn't miss the chance to show her bare feet.
>>271937782>spoilerBased Tomino
>>271937797Dezaki was truly a king amongst men
>>271936855Roux is also my favorite Gundam girl.
>>271937861Rouxerotic
Isekai in the 80s
>>271937856It's unreal how much more important and influential Dezaki is compared to Miyahacki.
Ah yes gooner threads
>>271928824because you like little girls not women
>>271938272It's a retro gooner thread, so it's good.
>>271937693>turns an entire generation into *open* loliconsAll men are pedos
this should've been ZZ's ending
>>271932300yes it was
>>271937693how can you pedos like puru when milly >>271938528 exists?
>>271937782Sayla is best Gundam girl
>>271937693And the one Puru that actually got to grow up somehow ended up being the only actually good thing about a shitty show.
>>271929219I'm dying
my first crush
>>271934769>that will be 3/4s our animation budget
Tomino girls in general are top cute. And from his creations, Elchi is one up there.
>>271937782fucking based, why do people over at /m/ hate him so much again?
>>271938795>Tomino girls in general are top cuteYes.
Feels like only mecha girls keep detailed face now.
>>271938184I'm glad some isekai are getting skimpier with girls outfits, but it's never as raw as earlier stuff. Sometimes it's not even about how uch skin is being showed, but about a mix of pride/shame and the seriousness older anime can give.>>271938771Nice, I was 7 myself first time I saw her. In retrospect, Jun's hair was probably the reason I like Selphie (FF8) so much.
>>271938969It is an inherently /m/ thing in anime. The times when every anime had detailed faces were times when /m/ was at the forefront of anime in general.
80s gals hit different.
a personal favorite of mine though she is from the 90s
>>271939314That's almost modern.
>>271928824>the absolute fucking state of OP
>>271938795>Tomino girlsIt's because the man knew the true nature of women
The 90s had the best girls. Almost everything before then was still rough around the edges, while the 2000s had those ugly VN-style faces and started the huge influx of moeblobs.
>>271929219>>271928824Good work.
>>271939393>Jupiter*jaw drops to floor, eyes pop out of sockets accompanied by trumpets, heart beats out of chest, awooga awooga sound effect, pulls chain on train whistle that has appeared next to head as steam blows out, slams fists on table, rattling any plates, bowls or silverware, whistles loudly, fireworks shoot from top of head, pants loudly as tongue hangs out of mouth, wipes comically large bead of sweat from forehead, clears throat, straightens tie, combs hair*
>>271933459Tell more people to have it in real life.
>>271939352almost but not quite
>>271937119Loyal girl. Stood by her spud.
>>271928824She simply didn't exude the raw sex appeal of other girls in the show (Mainly Kikka).
>>271938795Elchi a cute, even Rag. While Rag looks like she smells sweat, petrol and gunpowder. Her skin looks it feels sticky with dust and sand on it, she's also cute.
>>271939378These kinds of nuances are near-extinct today. On a good day we get characters like Tino, which is still just a collection of porntags with very little mind to the character.
>>271939393>Almost everything before then was still rough around the edgesPerhaps, but I still appreciate them for the most part because they were earnest attempts from the hands of actual artists (of varying experience and skill level, granted) to design visually interesting and appealing characters in their own style. Now, there were some conventions that were almost universally adopted because of how effective they are in helping the audience identify with the characters (big expressive eyes, for example, and we can mostly thank Disney for figuring that out), but aside from that, there was a lot of freedom of expression in character design, I feel. But by the late 90's and into the 2000's, the industry (most likely in an effort to cut down on costs while retaining as much mass appeal as possible) pretty much honed into a certain formula that was basically guaranteed to churn out appealing characters with the smallest amount of effort. They've gotten it down to a science by now, and so we get these mass-produced moeblobs, all of whom only look different from one another due to certain superficial features like hair style or certain gestures associated with them (some smile confidently while others look insecure, for instance), but artistically, they're simplified down to the barest of basics, having just enough visual information for the average normalfag to scan their face and recognize a cute girl. A dot for a nose. A split curved line for lips. A slight gradient on their cheeks to indicate a light blush. They all do it now, because there's no need to do more. This is enough to get most people to say "cute!" Why do more?I didn't mean to turn this into a rant. Disregard this, I suck cocks.
>>271939915It's not an incorrect rant. Things have become almost a mechanical marketing science. Characters feel focus tested and designed as a matter of formula. You want an easy and extreme example can look at most any harem anime and it will almost contain the same handful of archetypes. The Main Girl Tsundere, the quiet kuudere, a genki tomboy, the ara ara etc. You might see some double up but it's become repetitious to the point of self referential. I won't pretend like a lot of older harem anime were that much better but it did feel like there was some purpose beyond the mold.
>>271940802
>>271940863I didn't intend to link
>>271930016strictly going by appearance, she looks lame as fuck
>>271930016she looks like any other generic anime girl from modern anime
>>271938164good taste
>>271941055
I'm surprised Oku Hiroya likes Aim for the Ace. Not even boomers seem to care about the series at all nowadays.
Rumic girls are a gift to humanity.
>>271941057>>271938164very patrician
>>271940110reminder she got shinohara'd
>>271939610he recovered at least, so she was rewarded.
>>271941096i cant even tell if this is a meme or if they are seriously supposed to be different characters from different shows
>>271941418Did he?
>>271941662yeah. like half way through zz he starts recovering and by the end he is fine
>>271941833Huh, for some reason I remember him being a vegie even in the last episode.
>>271928824>Why were older anime girls so ugly? Even the canonically attractive ones look like pic related Because the beauty standard of Anime women went through a bunch of development stages that influenced the standard of what's considered cute or beautiful. Gundam released the same year as Castle of Cagliostro, the idea of bishojo was still in it's early development stages, but this evolution would pick up speed after this point. By the mid 80s you already had girls that were a lot more comparable to what we have now.
>>271941942no one of the last scenes of the anime is him and fa running happily at some beach
>>271941299That's based and wholesome though. Why do you type it like it's something bad? Reminder that she was stripped naked by some little boys that wanted to humiliate her and see her titties.
>>271942236>Reminder that she was stripped naked by some little boys that wanted to humiliate her and see her titties.true, weird chapter. At least in the end she got to peek on Asuma in his undies, while he was changing in the back of the patrol van during the typhoon.
>>271928824What are you on about? You can literally see the degradation after 2000.
>>271942373>You will never disco dance in space with a cute girl
>>271928824>Why were older anime girls so ugly?Dude, you're insane, Oka and Sanae are 150% SEXO
>>271942493Chizuru for me
ERIKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!KAZUUUUUUYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!Yeah suck it Inuyasha fags you fucking hacks.
>>271942515I have a thing for ponytails but yeah, she's cute too.
>>271942341>At least in the endOh, I thought you were gonna say she grabbed the kid, pulled his swimsuit down and spanked his ass.>she got to peek on Asuma in his undiesNo big deal. She saw him with his cock out in the anime.
I liked the faces in minamike
>>271942558Yeah, but not just him. She also saw Ohta. And Captain Goto. Talk about trauma. In the patrol van she seemed a bit more 'happy' at least.
>>271938814It's easy to bait people into getting mad if you either praise him or shit on him.
The only era of anime girls I think are uncute are 90's chicks that have too much chibi in them.
>>271939915i dont think you're wrong, but at the same time i really don't think the motivation is, at its core, a business one. i think it's yet another thing that's more to do with designers drawing more from the industry itself instead of life or other outside sources
>>271942648>She also saw Ohta. And Captain GotoGotoh was dressed and Ohta was covering. Only Asuma let it hang.>traumaNah she enjoyed it. She even got the heart pupils.
>>271942779Fuck you.
>>271942966>She even got the heart pupils.Oh lol, you're right, never noticed that.
saying that modern anime characters look similar because there's no creativity or because artists don't know what real faces look like is retarded. you might as well say that modern airplanes look the same because engineers stopped being creative.
>>271942993Umi da
>>271932840She was. I can't even fathom all the things I'd do to young Bulma.
>>271938642She's alright. I liked her in Metal Slug.
>>271937782Where are the pubes?
>>271943552She's a princess of Zeon. Royalty shaves.
>>271944162She;s been in hiding ever since her dad got Trotsky'd.
>>271943539thats not fio
>>271942560bible black had really fucking hot faces
>>271944320Bible Black had hot everything.
>>271929219This but unironically.
>>271931037I can't believe people used to find this big poofy hair attractive
>>271929026small nose > big nose
Naomi was literally designed to be peak female.
>>271936787>>271935246>>271935024I go back to watch the last few minutes of the OVA when she pleads for retarded hugo to drop everything and start a new life with him. So dang wholesome.
>>271945500gay.
>>271929219Hmmm
>>271940110Deus vult!
>>271943461
>>271946137based
>>271942373The waves with the major Rumic girls are nice. Akane even made it.
>>271928824Right show, wrong girl
>>271943005You absolute mongoloid, what a dogshit comparison. One is form driven by function, and one is purely aesthetics. How are they in any way comparable?
You can separate their designs as >before Gainax>after Gainax
These are the two most attractive cunts in the Universal Century.
>>271947697Based. Haman-sama is the best gundam girl ever.Shame she died.
*mogs everyone*
>>271947336Kai was the only one who liked that uggo
>>271948152(You)
>>271948181Posting Di Gi is cheating.
>>271948181Puchiko... My beloved...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tky2rTQ_IUc
>>271948152Big eyes are cute.
>>271948348
Post more huge eyes.
>>271937740Shut up amerimutt
>>271947697>Be Tomino>Make Char's ex look like his sister JUST with purple hair instead of blondeWhat was meant by this?
Their hair looks so easy to draw
>>271930016>Violet Filtergarden
>>271928824older anime girls are hot as fuck
Anime girl aesthetics peaked with visual novels in the late 90s and early-mid 2000s.
>>27194876690-99 for me, but acceptable
Heidi, my beloved
>>271942816Good point, there's that, too. Modern anime and manga is incestuous as fuck. And it extends beyond just the art or designs, of course. Artists and writers both now draw primary inspiration from other artists and writers rather than actual life experiences or interests the way those before them did.
>>271948853I'm so glad this style died. How can anyone find these giant alien eyes appealing?
>>271949116>Modern anime and manga is incestuous as fuckIt's funny because people in the industry made this exact same complaint 30 years ago. You'd have to go back to before the otaku boom in the mid-80s.
>>271950105Well yeah, but at least back then they were "tracing" the OGs, if you will. Now you have tracers tracing the tracers.
>>271949697Very style dependant, some shows nailed it, some looked like shit. 90s was bettter>ClannadKyou was ok.
>>271931358Kei was my first anime fap
>>271947336>>271947947I like her. She's cute but yes she's not supposed to be "canonically attractive" in the sense that her design is meant to show the harsh life she leads.
>>271939393This. Wish we could go back
>>271947697Forgetting someone, aren't you?
>>271950557Surely you have a better quality video than that?
>>271947697>>271950636Ahem.Gundam peaked with Puru.
>>271947697>>271950636>>271950675Why is ZZ both considered one of the worst UC Gundams but also considered to be the one with the best girls?I mean I noticed the shift to a more harem-like, proto-moe (girls are more likeable and have more of a focus on their personalities) compraed to 0079 and Zeta.
>>271950724It saw the success macross had by having likeable female characters.
>>271950724Gundam was trying to cash in on the emerging bishoujo culture that was popping up thanks to Macross, Cream Lemon and Megazone 23 being widely popular.
>>271950655Define quality, I've 17 Ruri soundwebms,a few Yurika ones, bunch of random cuts like the boys dancing at a table and 160 or so screencaps, only 6 include Hikaru though.
>>271950675Didn't give me hotloli vibes. Elle and Roux were nice but I didn't grab any screens of the latter besides a goofy face with a peace sign.
>>271935696bitchmaxxing
>>271948706we peaked when women looked like men
>>271950466You can go back any time you want. Every single 90s anime is available online.
>>271950908I meant that the aspect ratio is wrong. Hikaru is too wide.
>>271951758Looks fine to me, it's just a crop. Then again I was never good with estimating how much BG should be included with these.>>271951720it's what I've been doing, just a shame we ain't getting more of it ever again.
Brutal mindbreaking sex with puru
>>271928824After browsing through this thread i agree OP, though they arent ugly, but very average, they would be mob characters in most modern stuff.
>>271952742creepy. What show is that?
>>271948181love puchiko
>>271952965Judo Boy
>>271950908No Megumi love?
I'm surprised these dorks haven't been posted yet.
>>271950572why did joe do it?
>>2719533399 with Yurika and 2 solo, 0 vids. Never grew on me after her strong start, was more of a Ryoukofag
>>271953916>meant to rotate it but didn't save properlyowari da.
>>271953711Mylene is one of the sexiest character designs ever. Those dudes selling lewd pics of her were very based.
>>271953875I don't think Joe himself could really explain it
>>271953991Can't believe Okita fucked Megumi.
>>271935642That's notna tomboy That's a dyke.
>>271954317the who did what
For me, it's Ai-chan.
Doronjo, my beloved
>>271954826RIP her VA.
>>271953991>>271953916Understandable, she does fade into the background after the relationship with Akito goes south. And Yurika was always going to win.But she grew on me personally.
>>271933435Damn she looks great. Source?
>>271954773I swear she must have been the waifu of someone at capcom, because you can't convince me Roll Caskett and Harp Note aren't based on her.
>>271955414Nevermind I'm retarded. Thanks for sharing though anon.
>>271955107Yeah she was cute but got cucked both by the script and by being a relatively normal character in such a bizzare memorable cast. Would have been a strong bestgirl candidate in the average romcom
>>271940273I wonder if going the opposite way is why Konosuba was successful? Since they're all terrible women.
>>271955430i love her perky tushy.
>>271955543
>>271947947>>271947336Yeah, Miharu was a very cute average woman I think the design 100% hit with its intentions
>>271945798Utena should have been 100 episodes long its so fucking good
>>271950763Was SDF Macross really that big of a success?I get that it was one of the first by otaku for otaku shows but I kinda thought that it was just successful enough to spawn DYRL, which itself then really kickstarted it hard enough to become a bigger franchise
>>271942816>>271949116People say this is an anime only problem but I see it on /co/ too. The beanmouth style became a cheap incestuous self referential style whilst old cartooning always drew from life with the additions of "what if the body was rubber" or "what if it was entirely stiff shapes how does that affect movement". True sometimes due to budget reasons but beanmouth feels as every bit as incestuous as isekai sameface. It's a symptom of the talent growing only with anime/cartoons, but not the root.
>>271947927Man If I met Oscaru I wouldn't be able to control myselfI even love 3D french women probably thanks to her
>>271948706>>271951105What show? WAIT is totally and completely off its game today
>>271948723worst girl honestly
>>271953875Same reason why Joe did anythingYoko should have pegged him
Smaller eyes were peak
>>271955430Hideki Ishikawa's and Hayato Kaji's. They were huge Tatsunoko fans.Inafune loved Tatsunoko too but he was bigger on Cobra, Devilman and Getter Robo, the Mega Buster was based on Cobra's arm cannon while Zero's general silhouette was based on Getter.
>>271954106hard agree
>>271956366>while Zero's general silhouette was based on Getter.Oh yeah I can see itSame primary colors too
>>271954498Plenty of dykes are tomboys. A tomboy is just a girl who dresses and acts like a boy. There is nothing more boyish than liking girls.
Her name is Beauty so she can't possibly be an uggo, right?
>>271956424Zero being also powered by evil despite being good could be a Devilman nod but the jury is out there on that.However, back in the 00s he was called the Crimson Devil to Mega Man's Blue Bomber.
>>271928824Fra Bow was the hottest slut in og Gundam and went coma do but Amuro was clearly a faggot.
>>271956278Gundam victory
>>271929219You are cute uguu
>>271947379human aesthetics are based on function too. there are a limited number of features that people find attractive. it's like how a greek statue of a beautiful woman looks more appealing than an egyptian one, but not a whole lot better than a renaissance one or a modern one. sculpture evolved to its final form 2000 years ago. anime is doing the same today.
>>271955543Pre-movie Ryoko is the hottest Nadesico character.
>>271934874Hiromi technically isn’t a tomboy, even though she has some characteristics of one (short hair, athleticism, big appetite etc.). She’s actually quite girly overall.It’s the combination of these traits that makes her perfect wife-tier though.
>>271956897She is one I completely reject the modern otaku-created tomboy/girly dichotomy
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>>271955543They artist they got for the Nadesico manga tie-in drew some real ayylmao faces
>>271956726NTA but you seriously equating biological function which can be stylized in art in a myriad of ways to mechanical function which is limited by out laws of physics and aerodynamics?
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>>271956314She's just younger and there to balance things out like Daiba
>>271956893wife material. Her movie design is probably the biggest downgrade in the history of anime, I couldn't even tell it's the same character>>271956963Manga style's about the only thing that genuinely got better overtime. Can't stomach old nip drawings, besides some exceptions.
>>271957056
Akio Sugino character designs are the absolute peak for anime girl.You literally cannot get anymore beautiful and attractive than this.
>>271956897>she isn't a tomboy except for all these aspects that define a tomboy.
>>271957153I find her movie design to be ugly. Ruri also looks very different in the movie but it's at least good looking in Ruri and some people compared Frieren's design to Ruri's movie design although I prefer Ruri's series design.
>>271957153
>>271957246The fact that she ISN’T a tomboy is actually part of the show’s narrative. Munakata selects her because she’s extremely feminine and reminds him of his dead mother. He wants to make her stronger so she doesn’t meet the same miserable end that his mother did.Hiromi absolutely has some tomboyish traits that you’d see in the modern tomboy, as I said. But she’s still very much a feminine girl who likes feminine things on top of all that.At most, you could say she was one of the inspirations for the modern tomboy archetype. Similar to how Oscar from RoV was one of the inspirations for the reverse trap archetype.
>>271957216I wish she would call me Onii-sama.
>>271957480Same. I’m convinced the only reason that Henmi kept things platonic with her was because she was his step-sister and he was still hung up over Kaoru.If it was me she was writing letters to, I’d rail and impregnate her before she even graduated high school.
No Mai yet? Really?
>>271957657>I’d rail and impregnate her before she even graduated high school.I'm sure she would love it.
>>271957264nah, the frieren association ain't clicking.Her movie design took a while to grow on me but I like it. If I had more time to get used to it and more scenes with her looking that way I think I'd end up liking it more than the original, its a really solid aging-up/design change even if polarizing.>>271957290I wanna see schoolgirl Izumi now...
>>271957717She probably would. IDK if it’s just me, but she gives off the energy of the kind of girl who would get pregnant as a teen, keep the child and be a wonderful mother.
>>271956963>google the manga>AI image pops up in the search>realize nadesico has plenty of good character models>look up pixivuoh, all that angry expression Ruri porn..
>>271943552In Amuro's locket.
>>271929219Which Ojamajo Doremi anime is that?
>>271931037Holy ugly
>be a massive coomer who loves old-school anime girls>most artists who focus on particular kinks and lewd art of anime girls focus primarily on doing art of modern anime girlsBeing into older anime girls is good taste, but I really wish that there wasn’t an absolute dearth of lewd content for them.
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>>271957976Look at this faggot.
>>271957810She likes dangerous people after all.
>>271957384The mental gymnastics of tomboyfaggots are completely fucking insane
>>271952202Well fuck.
>>271958135>coping 80s tranny
>>271958008paypig on requests, sub to NAI or buy a GPU. Ain't as fucked as it used to be, with AI on the rise
>>271958402Reflect on your gayness son.
>>271950406Flash Kei is better .
Why the fuck no sudoku has ever thought about making a new anime series with old art styles? Not a single one.I'm tired of saturated colors.
>>271958987It’s more expensive. The more simplistic artstyles took off because it was easier to make.
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>>271958987Too much money and time and manhours to appeal to nostalgia of a small segment of their audience when they can fake it or just reference it.
>>271957745Frieren looks a bit like a combination of Ruri's series and movie designs.
>>271957745
>>271959395>>271959309Fuck off
>>271958987>>271959038>>271959150No, artstyles aren't expensive. This is a meme. The means of production are expensive. Cel and digital aren't artstyles.There have been anime that emulate or throw back to styles from 20-25 years ago, but people throw a hissyfit because it's still digital, or because it's in a style that they don't like.See Megalo Box, which went with that late 90s/early 2000s aesthetic.
>>271959518Really good looking anime too.
>>271958297
>>271958987>>271959518Another thing people need to realize is the reason why anime doesn't look the way it used to 25-30 years ago is because trends and artstyles change.How much anime from the 1990s can you think of that looks like 70s anime, excluding series which were deliberately throwbacks or remakes of anime from that era?
>>271959518Yeah you can get 90% of the way there with postprocessing effects Sunrise has been doing it here and there in random series for like 20 years, and lately some surprisingly high effort cutscenes for a Gundam gachahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz6f2Se3Na0
>>271928824You know dude, you have to be coy. If you want a thread about cute chicks from older series you can just say so
>>271959309>Fern as YurikaThat actually works. I kinda see it now, too bad the series is overrated crap with dogshit characters so im not particularly happy to see it. Ruined by popularity.>>271959395its just a similar hairstyle, schizo association.
>>271959802>Yurika: Energetic and excitable, prone to emotional outbursts and wild declarations of love>Fern: Never reacts to anything in a tone higher than "eeeh" in a mild surprisedHow?
>>271959697styles change, yes, but people complain about anime looking like shit because digital does look like fucking ass. Sure we have more animation now but is that actually better - the whole product looks worse, and the animated fights look like fucking ass with 0 clarity. I'd much rather have old directing tricks (motion lines replacing BG) and actually clear, easy to follow fights even if they've less frames.Though im not sure if anyone can even still direct these, likely its also related to director talent declining.i.e 70s to 90s was a natural, simple, style change, then we went into digital which is a shift far beyond style. If we still had cel with current trends I doubt people would complain as much
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>>271959866not personalitywise, she just looks the part imo. Could work as a parody if you made her a bit more energetic/proactive or just embraced hardcore tsun
>>271956472I liked Reika
>>271959936>digital does look like fucking ass
>>271959518Cel and digital can be considered art styles. They have visually distinct appearances due to differences in production methods and material.Anime like Megalo Box can try to emulate the cel style but physical paint will always look different from digitally colored images no matter how many sliders or filters you play around with.
>>271960771>Cel and digital can be considered art stylesNot really. That's like saying stone tablets and painting canvas are artstyles.
>>271960771>Cel and digital can be considered art stylesBlanket statements like these would imply Uchuu Senkan Yamato shares the same artstyle with Galaxy Fraulein Yuna or that Texhnolyze shares the same artstyle with Lucky Star.
>>271929219OP will never recover
>>271950724>Why is ZZ both considered one of the worst UC Gundams but also considered to be the one with the best girls?Something you have to remember is that in the earlier parts of the emerging fandom not every show got translated right away if at all. So a lot of shows, not just ZZ, got weird reputations from the few active bloggers who have "seen" them sharing their views on the matter. And often was it that these views where either highly opinionated or flat out incorrect. So someone like MAHQ who didn't care for ZZ ends up spreading word and the show got a reputation that lasted until more people finally got to see it.
>>271960930It's more like comparing water color to oil painting. Style is just a term for aesthetic. You can oil paint in a way that mimics water color and vice versa.
>>271960771They're mediums not artstyles, retard
>>271950724>one of the worst UC Gundams There's like a half dozen side stories that are way way shitter in the writing department, but ZZ jumps around a lot in tone, a couple obnoxious characters in the main crew, and suffers from a few asspulls Not my favorite but I didn't hate it either
>>271961474>You can oil paint in a way that mimics water color and vice versa.Yeah but doing so completely undermines the advantages of the tools your using. You can use a screwdriver as a hammer if you're really in a fix.
>>271948706Until they hit the wall
Someone post Four
>>271961757
>>271961510Art style isn't medium restricted, nigger. >>271961626That's besides the point. There is a unique aesthetic associated with a subset of painting due to differences in material and painting method. This aesthetic is recognizable enough to be called its own style but exists independently of the medium it sprang from. That's why you can have a "water color styled" oil painting with no contradiction.
>>271961786Words have meanings, cumbreath
ARIGATO REIJI SANhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCCzb6zdYB4
>>271961818You don't know them, subhuman. Google what art style means and you will see how incredibly broad the term is, shitstain.
>>271961910Art style is gothic and abstract. Medium is charcoal and oil. Stop being dumb.
>>271959518That's what I meant by faking it. But it doesn't matter because it is still only appealing to a niche audience.
>>271962129Art style refers strictly to the visual appearance of a work of art. Technique, medium, or anything else can form a style so long as it shares recognizable enough aesthetic similarities. Stop being a petulant little bitch. If a painting done without water color can emulate water color paintings, the above point has already been demonstrated.
>>271956884ayeka got a big dick, that's why she blushed, knowing that ryoko's dick was more small and pretty
>>271962461>says it's an art style due to differences in production methods and material.>says to google as proof>googles for proof>A medium in the art world is the term for the material used to create artwork.>Style refers to the visual appearance of a work of art that relates to other works with similar aesthetic roots, by the same artist, or from the same period, training, location, "school", art movement or archaeological culture.Yea GTFO
>>271957097I knowShe's really not too bad there is just a high bar set by the other girls
>>271962873I think she was cool
>>271961718grim. Barely broke past 10 EPs, even if she schizos out by the end, I won't mind.
>>271962907also depends which TV seriesI liked her a lot in the older one, but in SXX I didn't like her as muchprobably because she is a filthy journo in SSX but who knows
>>271963089They need to finish SSX I was so excited for Maetel to appear.
>>271962845>no mention of medium under styleLiterally exactly as I said you illiterate bitch. You keep ignoring my water color/oil painting example because it shows that style is not restricted by medium. Instead you can have a set of aesthetics associated with a specific medium that nonetheless isn't limited by it.
>>271963132I liked SSX but it did just kind of fizzle out near the end. >And then all the enemies died off screen
>>271960550Brigadoon, Doremi, Gaogaigar, Trouble Chocolate and Risky Safety are digital like come onYou can tell from the line aliasing and the very clean digital shading
>>271929219kek
>>271963229the show was originally meant to be around 50 episodes long, but nobody watched it when it was airing and the studio was forced to end the production pretty much before it had even reached its half way point. It's quite depressing because some of the setups in the earlier episodes seemed really promising.
>>271963455I wonder what happened. was it just a case of a bad time slot? You often see a lot of shows got cancelled. Would have been nice if they got another movie.
>>271963145>still doesn't get itGo look at something like Trigun or Ippo. They have the same distinct artstyle, but iterations in cel and digital. Your water color oil painting is a stupid example, which doesn't even apply to anime, which is wrong since the whole 'style' would just be copying a medium, further defining the difference. GTFO with your tranny logic, Mules exist, but that doesn't blur the definition of what a horse and donkey is, nor does it mean a donkey can be a horse.
>>271963779Alright nigger. Enough beating around the bush. Is it possible to have a water-color styled oil painting? Yes or no. Choose.
>>27196377080s audience wanted ecchi and action, not dramatic prose.
>>271963837Water color is a tool. You wouldn't just have a water color painting even with water colors. You'd have a water color PORTRAIT. A water color LANDSCAPE. A water color abstract impression. Water color by itself isn't a style. You have to consider what you're paining as much as what you're painting with.
>>271963837>Mules exist, but that doesn't blur the definition of what a horse and a donkey is.
>>271963893Romanticism is tragically lost.
>>271963992
Miime doesn't play.
>>271963924Ok so your answer is a no. Incorrect because there's literally one right here. Water color by itself isn't a style but there is a set of aesthetic qualities associated with water color in general. This is a given due to water color having defined physical characters. This "style" is nothing more than a set of aesthetics. It is not a medium. Similarly, cel anime is a medium and not a style. There is however a style associated with cel anime derived from its inherent characteristics. This style is different from the medium because it can be adopted by anime created using a separate medium i.e., digital anime. >>271963954Including you just in case donkey-kun. tl;dr: Cel anime isn't a style. There is a cel anime style.
This thread, I like it
>>271964331YWNBAW. Just because hermaphrodites exist (and true ones rarely do) doesn't mean you can break what a boy is or a girl is. What you're talking about in the first place is evoking the water colored medium in an oil painting, since water coloring isn't a style in the first place. Even if you can copy the technique of water color with oil painting, that's not a style in itself anyway, it's just your failed attempt at an outlier that exists for the sake of being an outlier. Then there's the fact that even if this shitty example is true, it doesn't apply to anime anyway, since no one is even making digital that tries to look like cell, or vice versa KEK.
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>>271964588
>>271964588>>271964622
>>271964557>animal analogy>tranny analogy >incoherent rambling unrelated to the idea that characteristics inherent to a physical medium form an independent set of aesthetics i.e. styleYeah I'm not wasting any more time on this. Learn to debate, loser.
>>271964666legendary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIg_c_LcwVAeww gross. This will learn me not to read the video titles. Try this again without someone fucking with the frame rate. I swear If I ever met one of those 60fps faggots in a dark alley I'd be making a lot of Batmans.
>>271964754
>>271964737Good on you, cutting your losses and not being made anymore of a retard.
>>271964666huh, is mazinger z actually worth watching in current year? I thought it was for kids? Been getting into mecha and playing SRW but still not convinced on supers and especially the super old shows
>>271964896>Been getting into mecha>still not convinced on supers then you haven't been getting into mecha.
>>271964815>>271964960yeah
>>271964737nta but if you're saying that different medium = different style that's just retarded.It is technically true on some level, but that classification would make no sense and create chaos, there'd be no point to doing that. Hence why it's medium AND style as two separate things even if there is a link between them it cannot/should not be acknowledg
>>271965004>>271964896
>>271964960That stems from supers seeming like kids shows, i.e it's something I might look at if it aired on tv but sitting down to watch 20 minutes of a cartoon doesn't really seem like a good use of time.>>271965004guess I'll be seeing it in a couple years once I get through all the alt gundams then. Looks so much better visually than I expected it to, too.
>>271965106>That stems from supers seeming like kids showsyou're a bigger idiot than the guys arguing about style. They're all kids shows you twat. >doesn't really seem like a good use of time.He said posting on a Mongolian Basket Weaving board about how he thinks older anime is for kids.>gundams And of course he's a gundam faggot. You know the fucking toy commercial series. Totally not for kids. I don't know what retarded hole you get your pre defined opinions from but if you actually watched things you'd fast learn that most super robot shows absolutely trounce gundam trash in terms of drama and pathos.
>>271965252>they're for kids>trounce gundams in terms of dramaso are they for kids or not? Gundam might've been a toy commercial series to start with but you must be severely retarded if you think it's a kid's show. I'd like to see a kid follow zeta or victory directing, fucking lmao.>thinks older anime is for kidswaste of time talking to you if you can't even read, making up shit I didn't say. Kill yourself, retarded faggot.
>>271965106I'd rather watch majingaa Z than alt gundams, especially non-tomino ones but you do you
I swear to fucking God I would suck this dude bone fucking dry holy shit Seig Daddy.
>>271965362>so are they for kids or not?Of course they are in sped. But just because you rode the short bus doesn't mean that kids weren't capable of following or investing in drama. And that's the point you monumental jack cunt faggots like you want to pretend one side is somehow more mature for arbitrary reason when it really is the same. There is no extra nuance in Gundam.
>>271928824This looks better than the bland, featureless moeblobs that people draw nowadays.
My favorite 90s girl
Nolandia was weird
>>271935168>I really wish Lodoss War wasn't boring as all hell.Brainrotten subhuman. If anything, Lodoss is too exciting. They should have focused more on the comfy journey and less on world ending threats and epic battles
>>271965444the only good non tomino gundam is imagawa's but that's more super robot territory
>>271956472>>271958050
>>271965512There isn't really anything wrong with a kids show per se, I've just no interest in it if it's precure but mecha or slop like might gaine.If it's good enough to be enjoyed by adults (like disney stuff, ghibli or teen titans/samurai jack) then im fine with it and that's essentially my question.There's definitely a difference in maturity between shows.As for gundam it's more of a teenager/adult show than a kid one. They might watch and enjoy it, sure, but it isn't targeted at them.>>271965444I like semi-real bots so it shouldn't be too painful, in it for completion's sake at this point. Might sneak majiZ somewhere between series I guess.
>>271965749> unknown-6Not unknown, thats judy abbott.
>>271965805One thing I miss about old anime was how it knew when to be quiet. Rather than being constantly on speed it really liked to build the mood. Draw you into the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vFD_BcZsAc&list=PLegCghSLhv3NcibLmdi3mmhgZlPiA-rmA&index=33
>>271964187Genocide Hero MiimeI've always wanted an animated adaptation of his adaptation of the Nibelunglied
>>271964187>>271966117
>>271966053https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCJzOoguNCA
>>271964754holy kek I ought to watch Mazinger Z
>>271966031Yeah I know, my phone just saved it as that. Judy is the best
>>271928824Is that Lois griffin
>>271966158>one-hand shooting, other hand supporting at the wristutterly kino shooting stanceFucking isosceles and weaver stances are NOT aesthetic at all
>>271966169https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxliJlqdvZQ
>>271966259It's the details that paint a picture
>>271966267
For me it's Christina. Just the perfect beautiful girl next door type.
>>271966404Chris is great. She gets too much of a bad rap from power level retards who don't actually pay attention to how stuff works.
>>271965362>zeta>victory >or any gundam showslol compare to this
>>271966918>Zanbot 3 is just 23 episodeswhat the fuck, how is that not a long running kiddy show. My life's been a lie. Picked up.
>>271966918Call my therapist. Tell him his next yacht payment is coming.
>>271967069That shit was brutal man.
>>271966508lol
>>271967321My therapist is going to be a wealthy man
>>271959518Art is sometimes dictated by technology.Cel anime had a really strong tradition of color theory because of how shit broadcast tv was in the analog era. You either had competent colors or stuff wouldn't show up on the screen.It was almost instantly lost by the digital transition where everything became oversatured messes because the gun to the head of technological limitation was gone. There are exceptions and even an emerging trend where young animators are talking about this on nip twitter but for the most part it's been a shitty 20 years on this specific aspect of anime.
>>271955543The whole cast was great fun. It's a shame that most people ignore them and only focus on Ruri nowadays.
>>271968128Ruri is the 3rd best
>>271968232it ain't fair..
>>271968330>>271968232Ghost sex!
>>271968128rare to see such a big cast and everyone having a proper role in it, down to the kitchen staff.
>>271928824there is one I enjoy
>>271967321They snuck a nip into one episode
>>271968330I'm so glad in almost all SRW that Nadesico is in you have a way to re-recruit Gai.
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>>271936170I refuse to believe people actually find 70s girls attractive. This barely even looks like anime.
>>271970551>This barely even looks like anime.See this is where you stumbled on the key issue. It's not meant to look like anime. It's meant to look like itself. It was created by someone who understood art outside of anime. They were not just drawing anime to be anime. They were drawing and because of their medium it happened to be anime. So much anime today is made by people who only understand anime and that's why it's, quite frankly, boring.
And so the day is saved
Not all Fujikos are created equal
ayylmao
>>271970902Muge Zarbatos has returned from the dead for revenge! We need to play in a band!
>>271937782I wonder if Japan will ever bring back nipples outside of ecchi anime
>>271930744>>271970839
>>2719713883D Lupin worked better than expected
>>271968542WOO WOO
>>271937693Sex with puru
Char is into young girls
>>271969631The ending is what gets most people attention nowadays, and I get it, but Ranze is very cute and her show is enjoyable.
>>271968330I was actually in denial about his death for a while, I just couldnt accept it.God damn it was like being woken up with a bucket of cold water. It made me learn that even if everything seemed unreal I had to take it for what it was.
