Reminder that AI technology helps forgotten FOTM anime girls get new artwork.
>>272112875I'll never forget Shinka
>>272112875would rather they stay forgotten than be degraded with this spiritual poison conceived by evil computer demons
>>272112903Computers aren't evil, they're neutral.
After taking a dive into AI, I don't dislike it anymore. But it has made me wonder why people like OP keep posting the generic AI artstyle for everything. It's actually pretty powerful and can do a shit ton of varying styles, yet most retarded fags on the internet just seem to LOVE the standard slop style.
>>272112875Or get us stuff that artists rarely draw, like Ranma gettibg oji-san-ed
Art that is by its very nature, low value because it was generated and can be spammed without limit.
>>272112875This is why I don’t mind AI ‘art’ (it’s 90% porn) that much.
>>272113071you think they're neutral because you're evil too
>>272112903Based. AIshit is peak soulless. Forgotten means they can't be shat up by any cancer western "artists" either, let alone in porn.
>>272113151
It's not new when it all looks the same
>>272113397So in other words it's perfect for asian media
>>272112875>artworkAI can't create artworks
>>272112875Or even obscure anime like Princess Nine.Shocked the hell out of me that Bing/Dall-E can do the MC of that show
>>272112875Chuunibyou is not FOTM tho.Anyways if one tries with love one can make a funny cute drawing with more soul than AI slop and people will appreciate it.
>>272112875Or those that aren't very popular even in nipland.
Oi. Anyone wanna fight.
>>272112875There must be some way to make art look less ai
>>272112875An artist can also be commissioned for this purpose.
I don't seethe and froth at the mouth whenever I see AI, but does anyone else genuinely feel nothing when looking at AI generated works?It just looks too uncanny for me to appreciate it as I do with actual artwork.
>>272113639There is and it's easy but OP is retarded and enjoys the AIslop style
>>272113659I think you're the only one with that opinion, anon. Truly a unique one among the masses.
>>272113646>An "artist" can generate an image for you through their patreonFTFY
Isabelle here! Remember Isabelle thinks YOU and your prompts are awesome!
>>272113659I'm sure there are. Not me thoughhttps://files.catbox.moe/vk1bge.jpeg
>>272113713I was talking about commissioning a legitimate artist to actual draw the images OP wants, Anon.
>>272113742Not worth the time or money
>>272112875Amen.
>>272113853Anon, you know people are going to jump all over that one, in a bad way. Just generate 10+ of them and pick one with minimal errors if you want to post something.
>>272112875thanks Rajesh
>>272113867I know. I don't care.
>>272112903As someone who does not believe in demons, I am very happy whenever I see this sentiment online. Thank you for saying this, and don't stop fighting the good fight, anon. Fuck AI and those who propagate it.
>>272113932Good for you, anon. Have a loli.
>>272113853Looks good.Notice the whiners haven't posted a single counter-example, and never will. All they can do is bitch and complain that their sub-par work will never make them a dollar as AI continues to improve at a rapid pace (and will surpass all but the top 1% of 'real' art).It's like the writers strike, but even less effective.
>>272114112VEEY GOOD SAARINDIAN SUPERPOWER 2024 SAARDO NOT REDEEM THE AI SAAR
>>272114112Get that wholesomeness out of here, anon. AI is for dirty little sluts onlyhttps://files.catbox.moe/va21qn.jpeg
>>272113639I think you use "anime screencap" or somesuch. You can also make it try to imitate certain artists.
>>272112875I don't understand the hatred towards AI art, other then fear of the unknown, ludditism etc. Please tell me how OP's image here looks "soulless" or something. I'll call you a fucking liar. Look at the lighting on that pic!From the perspective of artists, my attitude ranges from sympathetic to "get fucked". Ya, real loss that porn drawings will be done by computers instead of people. A crime.For the ghost in the machine/demons etc. people, this is the same old argument about photos taking your soul, or that a computer somehow represents a "spirit". If computers were always that way, they were that way before we had AI art.The only real legitimate concern I see is the long term one. AI art will make art outside animation, other specialized areas irrelevant. AI needs real material to produce a model, if it looks at nothing but AI it will revert back to producing gibberish. How do we keep artists working so AI art has something to pull from? Idk.
>>272114361Doing the needful in this today saar. Very good saar
That one anon's album of on-model Monogatari lewds is pretty damn good, although that's far from obscure or FOTM.
>>272114361AIshit has no soul. Humans know what little details make things even hotter, a machine will never be able to understand. Call me when they can actually cry if leftards don't end humanity decades before that.
>>272112875>>272113094>>272113853AI imagery is objectively not real art. Stop posting this disgusting shit here.
>>272114361>the eyes are terrible>the lighting is samey on every AI image>the fingers, patterns, etc., are all fuckedYeah, AI is not art and will never be real art.
>>272114361I doubt they understand it either. Hating AI is just trendy right now so they go along with it. It's "boring", it's "soulless" as if these words mean objectively anything.
>>272114132All you have to do is post a single counter example.Just one.If you're a third world ESL that can't save pictures on his phone, just say so.
>>272114457And those are all easily fixable, problem is people don't want to put in the effort to do that or even change an artstyle apparently. There's really a bunch of neat shit with AI that you won't really understand if all you see is shit like what OP posts.
>>272114473>NO SAAR YOU ARE THE EE ES OF EL SAAR NOW REDEEM THE COUNTER EXAMPLE SAARKek, stay mad Rajesh
>>272114132Don't know what scamming Indians has to do with stuff you can generate for free... On your computer. Locally. No need for online generators. They're just more convenient. Or you can use civitai and lose inpainting.
>>272114520Ah ha playing the bloody dumby saar very sneaky saar naughty naughty India Superpower 2024 redeeming the art
>>272114428Go scrolling through pixiv, the stuff looks nuts. The lighting, anatomy, and emphasization can all be done effortlessly. https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/119413256The only leg you have to stand on is "a human didn't directly create this".
>>272114492It's besides the point, but if it's so easy and you're taking OP's image as an example, fix OP's image.
>>272113639>>272113659Once you realize this stuff is overwhelmingly being generated by third worlders a lot of things start to make sense. They gravitate to whatever is fast, free, and easy since most are prompting from their phone with a slow as shit data connection. Most are also not actually interested in style beyond whatever gets them attention, fame, and money. This is why they all tend to blur together. They're just swiping prompts from each other based on what they see or hear is getting popular and spamming to maximize their chances. Also since a dollar goes a longer way in places like India and AI prompting is less strenuous than physical labor people are incentivized to keep spamming in the hopes of hitting it big.
>>272114517One artist.One commission.One piece of art, drawn by a human.That's all I ask.
>>272114457The eyes are more detailed then most official artwork, the lighting is technically superior to all but the most dedicated pieces of anime art, there is nothing wrong with the fingers in this image. You are regurgitating lines fed to you like an AI.
>>272114599>REDEEM THE COUNTER EXAMPLE SAAAAAAAAAAAARKeep seething, streetshitter
>>272114573What do you dislike about OP's image? My gripe with it is solely the artstyle, which I can pass it through i2i and get a different style out.
>>272112875Tis true, but the saddest thing is when there are characters so obscure and forgotten not even the AI toys can save them.
>>272112875
>>272113094Because most of these threads feel like falseflags from the AI-haters. There's so much great stuff out there these days yet most of these OP use the shittiest low-res image they can find.
>>272114605>You are regurgitating lines fed to you like an AI.>regurgitating>like an AIPoojeet can’t even be consistent with his posts, jej
>>272114580Although it feels like you're seething over this thread, I have to admit that I'm a little worried about how technology is evolving, because whether you want to admit it or not, ai it's here to stay and it's getting better.But I'm worried about how ai is increasing to the point where one doesn't know what's real and what's not. How do I know you're not a bot of some kind? How do I know that your post or the one that will reply to me was made from chatgpt? Does it matter if it was made by a robot or not?
>>272112875truly it is a god send for this
>>272114672Maybe you shouldn't worry about stupid things just because some guy in a youtube video told you to be.
>>272114641keklove seeing these fags have a melty over AI
>>272112875It clogs up my image searches, let me blacklist all AI images across the internet then I'll accept it as a neutral thing other people can have fun with without it bothering me
>>272114724I didn't watch any video on youtube tho>>272114641this one looks pretty good
>>272114745Well I don't know you personally, but I refuse to believe that large swaths of the population coming to the exact same concern nearly at the exact same time is a mere coincidence.
>>272113646Look anon, I don't want to have explain to an artist the character and my fetish and have them provide me 15 different angles of it, paying for each commission. I also like the original show artstyoe and not the artists flavor.Also good luck commissioning any Chinese cartoon girl that's canonically under 18, even if the character looks like a milf, without risk of being cancel cultured.
>>272114635>shit like what OP postsThat's the sole reason I said anything about it.
>>272114770Maybe the human mind is headed in the same directions or there are subliminal signals on the internet, television and movies, who knows lmao
>>272112875You know what else does that? Commissioning an artist.
>>272114580AI image generation wasn't useful until the NovelAI model leak. They're based in Delaware. Why do you guys keep insisting it's all Indians?
>>272114779Yeah, my gripe is the standard slop artstyle and nothing more, something very easy to "fix". I was asking what you dislike about it since you suggested I fix it, and so I wanna see what you think should be changed if I take a go at it. Like I'm looking through a bunch of stuff I gen'd and there's so many varying styles I've done that it REALLY irks me when I see the obvious AIslop artstyle.
>>272114672You can tell it’s real because of its uncensored hatred of turd worlders such as yourself. But you keep telling yourself about how India will rule the art world, pajeet. Whatever helps you sleep at night
>>272114805Or maybe it's explicitly talked about in news articles, blogs, youtube/etc videos and forum posts, about dead internet theory. The concern you have that's supposedly your own thoughts even has a name.
>>272113094I went from not hating it to disliking it again when I understood it enough. AI doesn't understand what I want. Only I can draw what I want to see. I never attained the skill for it so I suffer.
>>272112903>>272113450>>272113646>>272114439>>272114816Bot replies
>>272114859>AI doesn't understand what I wantHighly doubt, but what exactly did you want it to create? Any examples or anything?
>>272114873What's wrong with bots? if you like AI image gens you should be completely fine talking to bots too
>>272114841im not indian but ok>>272114856interesting theory
>>272114879Art of your mom getting fucked in front of you while she laughs at your fat smelly ass and tells you how much of a loser you are for following the tech trends of gay openly satanist entrepreneurs just because they're marketed to you. Dumb, gullible, useless teenager. Have some willpower and stand up for something true and right you stupid demoralized faggot.
>>272114821>Why do you guys keep insisting it's all Indians?Because some people don't know how to talk anymore outside of memes. The tech was created in US, and at least on the anime side, expanded on in Japan and China. As far as I know, these are the countries that use the tech the most.Also, look at this loli. Isn't she cute?
>>272114925Woah, didn't know Piccolo posted on 4chins
@272114925AI actually raped this man and his family apparently
>>272114729>having a meltyAnyone who types with such effeminate and forced petulance is either a gay pedophile, a nu-male, a tranny, or a black woman. There's no in-between or variation. I know exactly what kind of person you are. Live with your mistakes and either change or kill yourself already.
>twitter replyPoojeet tourist confirmed
>>272114925
@272114964>so new and mindbroken by pajeets he thinks this is twitter shit and not just not giving you a (you)oh the ironing...
>>272114916Kali eaten poodoo in meesa coomba jar
>>272114879There are a surprising amount of basic concepts that people haven't drawn and AI plain doesn't understand when you proompt it. Like friggin drones. It's all quadcopters.
>>272113542And then that one will have a meltdown over some netouyo saying gooks shouldn't draw Japanese characters and decide to quit drawing altogether
>>272114548Based fellow Seiba no Masta enjoyer.This guy gets it. There was a VERY noticeable jump in quality after NovelAI v3's release last December. More and better artstyles, output consistent enough to make coherent CG sets, and most importantly, facial expressions with SOUL. The good stuff can actually pass for human fanart now.
>>272113944You sound butthurtas fuck
>>272113646>Spend money for a worst result delivered in 5-10 business days.
>>272114988Ah you got me there, I know some vehicles and robotic things are pretty shit. My AI talk is only about anime girls and making them do lewd stuff. That said, what is stopping you from shopping in a drone or crudely drawing one and doing a few i2i passes and some inpainting?
>not just notKEKAROOOOO
>>272112875Never accept mediocrity.
>>272114821>>272114928It's because people like you keep trying to push this shit like Indians trying to make a quick buck.The pajeets at least have an excuse in they're trying to make American money, you fuckers don't have taste, talent, or anything worthwhile to provide.
>>272114966Respond like a man, you useless fat fuck. You're not an anime girl, you're a degenerate pedophile. Own up to what you are instead of hiding behind the thinly veiled fetishes you flaunt as "le cute self expression". The only sexual interaction you get is from male children on discord, and all of them are confused about their sexual identity. You people are so predictable I have it down to a science. Next you're going to either do the same thing you did posting that pedophilic picrel, ignore me, attempt to flip it by saying stupid gay cutesy shit that really says nothing at all thus proving my point eneitely, or you're going to freak out and call me a Nazi and tell me you'll kill me out of blind rage. I know the reason you're like this is because you're suffering in some way, and I'm glad that's the case. Keep running and hiding in delusion and escapism while your life remains torture, you dumb fuck.
>>272113659It feels cheap to me. Rarely do I find an AI image that is worth saving.
>>272115032Do you enjoy being angry all the time about trivial things, anon?
>>272115023That's correct you actual moron.
>>272114997>The good stuff can actually pass for human fanart now.Why wouldn't I look at human fanart instead then? AI is just going to get abused by corporations taking advantage of communities that relied heavily on fan creations
>>272115032Show me who was trying to sell you anything.
>>272112903>spiritual poison conceived by evil computer demonsMeds. Now.
>>272115014What's stopping me is that that it doesn't work. It plain does not work. Do you know what actually works? Drawing it properly..>only about anime girls and making them do lewd stuffNot even then, dumbass. There's multiple hairstyles AI flounders on when you try making it do something and it's an utter crapshoot. Your English is stiff enough to give you away.
>>272115055Grammar isn’t just about spelling, Rajesh. Self teaching can only take you so far
>>272113659Trained properly, and with a bit of post-production work by an artist, you can get some pretty quality (or at least on-model) stuff. Zankuro did interesting things with AI on his Fanbox when he injured his hand so badly that he couldn't draw for a while. There was also a run of on-model CCS art that was AI-assisted.
>>272115046Devaluing something innate to moral common sense does not actually take away its value, and never will. By the way, posting all of these images will guarantee you to be added to a watchlist. Enjoy prison, tourist.
>>272115079>>272115069>>272115055AI art is actually far superior and cheaper than asking someone else to do it for you, please be more civilized. thank you
>>272115043I save AI as a glorified image search compilation when I present references for an artist to draw something real.
>>272115089Commit partial self hanging
>>272115063Do you understand what a simile is, anon?
>>272115069You're so mindbroken about Pajeets that proper English makes you think about them. Actually take a look at yourself, that's fucking pathetic. And yes it does fucking work, now I know you retards haven't actually even tried anything yourselves because there's no fucking way that an i2i at mid to low denoise won't give you the result you want. >>272115079Mind showing me what's wrong about that sentence? Real answers please, from both of you, or no more (you)'s for you little greedy piggies.
>>272115108No one cares, AI fag. YAAAAAAAAWWWWWWN
>>272115099I'm not a sexual degenerate like you, please refrain from such commentsWe're talking about how ai art is the future
>>272112875all it does is give amerimutts the ability to spam BBC pornography of their anime girl self insert
>>272115088I don't even know what to say to this, anon. Just, please consider taking some meds.
>actually shitting your pants and malding over AIlmaoooooooooill post more AI on /a/ then ;)
>>272115121>spams the internet with AI generated sexually suggestive children all day because he has no job>"I-I'm not the degenerate!... Y-YOU ARE!!!"Good morning, sir.
>>272115102I know what it is, anon. But you don't have anyone pushing it on you. You're actively looking for it to get mad.
>>272114962Who are you quoting?
>>272115142Good morning gentlemen, I hope you have a good day>>272115124>>272115136keep posting your art, it's pretty good
>>272115124
>>272115108Same word not separated by a comma + double negative not used for emphasis, poojeet
>>272115156>HURRRRR HURRRR HURRRR UHHHH WHUT HURRRRR IM SO QUIRKY AND INTELLIGENT I AM ABOVE YOU BY ACTING RETARDED LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME HURRRRRRR HURRRRR HURRRRRRRR UHHH HUH? CONTEXT? MEDS! MEDS! UHHH HRRRRRRRR HURRRR
>>272115166Announcing reports on a federal honeypot will get you banned
>>272115166There's a good chance that you think that actually does something
>>272115182I think they have a pill for that
>>272115189You still have a long way to go, but your art is improving anon
>>272115178Damn, you're actually retarded and calling others pajeets. Holy shit lmaooooooooooooooo
>>272115205Improving from what? These were all generated roughly the same time.
>>272115166
>>272115061Because you have to be pretty good to outdo the AI these days, and old characters get less art, as OP pointed out. Pic unrelated.https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/123084803Fingers still need work, but hitting the right vibe over and over is pretty impressive.
>>272114439I don't care if what I fap to is art or not
>>272115208>r-r-retard, saar!Concession accepted, Rajesh. Now jump in front of a train
>>272115241anon...
>>272115241>Because you have to be pretty good to outdo the AI these daysOr you know, be the artist the AI model is ripping off, because when I see AI like that I just rather go and find and look at works from the actual artist the style is based on
>>272115255You missed a period, Sanjeet.
>loli = cpAh so these are the type of people that dislike AI and are shitting themselves. Checks out.
Did I just walk into a /v/ thread?
>>272115274kekaroo pajeet doesn't know how humans talk
>>272115215I found an older pic. It's not bad.
i thought it was just shitposting but i think he actually believes he's owning some non-existent pooloos ITT
>>272115273>>272115312>>272115325Very hateful pictures.This is why the AI will never being welcomed in India.
>>272115083Zankuro is actually the shining example for why AI sucks. There is a night and day difference between what he used AI with and what he didn't use.
its kinda funny desu
>>272115357Weesa knowings yous usins the Ay Eye on da poodoo bucket, Sajeetsi!
>want to post my gens>everything is either too lewd or too /d/brehs...
>>272115407Yeah I have that problem too. Gotta dig through some old stuff if I want to post any images
>>272112875yeah, but it's badly done like 90% of the time and/or "here is a """"collection"""" of 100 images of the girl fucking just standing there doing nothing, or getting fucked but it's 100 variations of the exact same thing and you just cherrypick the like 1-2 okayish ones out of the lot because the dumbass """"artist""""" didn't have the eye for doing that himself."
>>272115436nice
>>272115269Or maybe the artist doesn't draw those characters. There's a guy ripping off Melon22 every-which-way, except with sane boob sizes.https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/109075258/artworks
Is it just me or did this thread become a lot more sanity in the last 5 minutes.
lmao, it's not just shitposting. this dude is actually upset at AI and obsessed with poopoo "people". honest to god mental illness, very nice.
>>272115509yes, anon, the mental illness is the realist and not the plethora of unabashed pedophiles ITT
>>272115518Still haven't posted an example of a good commission artist
>>272115478I'd be more sane if you learned high res fix instead of posting base resolution gens.
>muh pedosi FUCKING LOVE cunny
>>272115468looks good
Howdy fellow anons, I hear there's a fella posting loli in these here thread. Might one of you chumps kindly point me in the direction of them
>>272115533there aren't any. AI is slop and will never truly recreate the human form, or anything but a mockery of genuine art or any natural parts of life. it isn't anything special. it's just a dataset that makes really uncanny collage images.
>>272115573A stick figure is a recreation of human form, anon. You string these words together in your head but you never stopped to check to see if it made sense or not.
>>272115581Yet the stick figure is made through intuition, intent, and physical expression. Meanwhile, an AI lacks human interaction beyond concept alone. Basing real art on AI concepts is another story, but AI will never be a sufficient enough modem of expression to be considered a legitimate artform. It is a fad tool and only ever got popular because it further enabled anonymous degeneracy and laziness.
AI anon, can you make lolibabas?
>>272115637Seek religion
>>272115637lolibaba is more of an attitude than a look
If your picture wasn't drawn by hand using pen and brush then it's AI-assisted art.
>>272115619Keep going anon, tell me what stick figures really mean to you.>>272115637I only have images of lolis becoming mamas>>272115660Most images these days go through photoshops/etc for alterations, anon. Alterations conducted by an algorithm, and guess what, AI is just another fancy algorithm.
>>272115660No. Even a digital art program requires intent, intuition, and human involvement. There is a psychological factor in art, as it revolves completely around expression of the self. Without the self: there is no art. You are not making an image by asking a database to create an amalgam of others' artistic works for you. The only way to truly express yourself artistically, even at the most basic of levels, is to physically involve yourself in it. Dance, song, film, music, drawing, painting, exercise, editing, competition, and even thought alone. These are art, as they are expression of the self. When you take away self-expression, then by definition it cannot be art.
>>272115719AI art requires a prompt, anon. Meets all of the criteria you stated, though I'm sure you'll be able to think of some new ones now that I mention it.
>>272115719You can literally, LITERALLY, draw a doodle and put it through AI for details and more. There's someone on /h/ that takes models, creates scenes in blender, then puts them through AI to make it 2d and whatnot. You can inpaint, which requires you actually knowing what you're doing and actually doing edits yourself before feeding it back to the AI. There's even more stuff you can do that requires human interaction, but it looks like you actually don't know anything about AI and think it's purely just putting "make anime girl good" as a prompt and that's it.
>>272115738Typing a prompt to generate an AI image is no different than using a tag to filter from a collection of multiple images. It is not creating art. It is resorting what others have done and mashing things together to vaguely fit a criteria. There is no human involvement in the process of creating an AI image. The coding of the models doesn't create the art, either, based on what I have just said. There is no defense for AI which philosophy justifies it as an artform, without applying exceptions which involve further action by a human being. For example, if you engineer a robot to be powered by a genuine form of attempted artificial intelligence. That would be art, as it is a completely different scenario and set of circumstances and would be justified and judged by different standards. A learning model is just as much art as it is true human interaction. There are no learning models which can replicate to a genuine extent what can be done better by a human being.
>>272115765Arguing an exception does not dismiss the base circumstance.
How much does Hiro get paid to allow this fucking spam everywhere on 4chan? Literally not one board where AItroons aren't spamming their slop everywhere.
>>272115821They do it for free
>it's soullessDefine what is a soul.>it's not real artDefine what is real art.>it can't draw handsCan you?
>>272115821Report more.
>>272115795It's creating art, anon. And, just give it up anon. I know that you don't know how AI art works, and you know that you don't know how AI art works. You just make post after post of nothing but nonsensical word salads. The reason you do so is because you're engaging in obvious backwards thinking. You start with the conclusion that you want and try to work backwards from there, trying to figure out reasons why it's bad. But, you don't actually know how the system works, so you just make things up and throw out these vague statements until I get so tired of your nonsense that I stop responding to you. Gotta say though, it's working. And of course, you're wrong again. Models are trained off of human drawn art, the way in which they're trained at set by humans, the algorithms are all written by human, the prompt is written by humans, all the dozens of settings and choice of loras are chosen by humans, and if the human feels like it, any fixes or touch ups are done by human intervention. You're just wrong on every level.
>>272115821Yeah just look at all that spamHow will /a/ recover from this ONE(1) thread
All this seething ITT made me want to install SD again and go back to prompting.
>>272115821I've been wanting an ai board for forever. They have ruined /g/ and quite a few other boards they are on.
>>272115813What do you mean by exception? These are tools provided with the generator, and I use them to make what I have in my head through AI. You can't just go "nooo that doesn't count" just because you think so. There's a shit ton that involves human interaction if you want a half way decent result, just the same with stuff like music, 3d modeling, animation. If I boot up FL Studio right now to make music, I can select samples and just move them around so I make music, or I can just make the beats and stuff myself. AI is quite literally the same thing here.
>>272115880>Define what is a soul.Active participation in a perspective residing within the greater conscious existence. (See: Taoism, Hinduism, Kabbalism, Hermeticism, Pythagoreanism, Process Philosophy)>Define what is real art. Symbolic expression of an original or otherwise philosophical idea, based on circumstances which require human or otherwise biological interaction further than doing your least lazy Andy Warhol impression.>Can you?Yes, however irrelevant that is to determining the legitimacy of artistry as a greater concept.
>>272115888dat hand
>>272115888Not reading beyond the first sentence. I will not go in circles with you. Either reply to my argument in good faith or stop replying altogether. Otherwise you will be ignored.
>>272115960Oh no>>272115969We can leave it there then, I'm quite happy with where it ended. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and is just trying to fake your way through.
>>272115936I have already made posts ITT pre-emptively refuting arguments such as this.
>>272116002Which ones? Because all I see is you saying "it doesn't count cause I say so". So tell me why human interaction doesn't count when it comes to AI without just saying "it's uhh.... an exception.... because i say so".
>>272116001Dismissing an argument and repeating yourself ad nauseum is not intelligence, nor is it understanding. You are just an egotist begging for validation and attention. You do not seek genuine discussion. I gave you a chance, yet you chose to be childlike and stubborn. You cannot debate without responding to an argument. When another has refuted you: repeating yourself only delegitimizes your position and shows your true intent in the discussion.
>>272116015Debasing the argument by trivializing common sense and backsliding into semantics. Not worth my time.
>>272116045lmao you fucking faggot, that's what I thought
>>272116031I'm not doing any of that. You gave a list of criteria that is required for something to be art and I reminded you that prompting fulfills all of the items on your life. You pivoted to just saying human interactions and I reminded you that human interaction is involved in multiple steps along the way. You just don't know what you're talking about. I'm sure it sounds good in your head, and it sounds good to other people who have no knowledge about it either, but don't try to pass it off as a meaningful argument against anyone who knows even the tiniest bit about this technology.
>>272116056I've already directly addressed this argument, and have explained the exact reason why I won't entertain a circular discussion. Once again, you repeat yourself. Narcissism is poison.
>>272116082Alright, lets end it here then. You've said your piece and I've said mine. Cool?
>>272113094Because AI is infested with bitter techbros and poojeets who despise people who can draw so the public discourse is about protecting or pwning artists and not actually about the potential of generative AI. Unfortunately most people will just see it as an instant gratification tool for art they want to consume and use it to trudge out tons of slop that looks kinda sorta like pop art.
>>272116143inb4 nuh uh
>>272116143A shame really, nowadays I tend to spend at least an hour doing inpaint fixes on a gen. Feels good to get a real nice end result with little to no issues. Even started doing anatomy fixes and stuff with it.
I'm an artist, and the saddest thing for me is that AI accounts always get 99k likes and subs, meanwhile real artists (mainly new ones) don't, and ignored, unless they draw something hypeI don't mind using AI as a tool to improve artwork: for example, I ask AI to make my sketches better and use as inspiration for ideas, so it doesn't just gen shit for me, it helps to enhance it. It doesn't exclude all human made tutorials I watch, just a little toolBeing real digital artists now is quite hard
>>272114361This is an AI generated reply.
>>272116200Most of those ai like ratios are bots
>>272115542NTA, but I never got good results from using highres fix. Got the thighs replaced with breasts twice and gave up on it.
>>272116253Your denoise is too high if hires fix is doing stuff like that. Always play around with the denoise value, especially if you tend to change around artstyles/loras a bit. One artist style might work good on 0.4 denoise, but another might get fucked with it.
>>272116250New accounts keep spawning, they greet each other and congrats with "Omg you got 50k subs, thanks for your artwork!!!!!"Some AI artists don't even mention that they're using AI. I saw one some days ago, and they did only on their Linktree page and nowhere else. It just sucks
>>272116445I used to go months without fapping at all. Until I got a local SD setup going.
>>272116445Same, bro. I prefer my hentai to look like screencaps or official art of their respective shows and AI has been a godsend for that
>>272116445It's as if having material specifically catering to your interest works better or something. Some of you people talk about commissions, but come on, 99.9% of people don't do that. What we would do is sit around, looking up towards the sky and hoping the next batch of material to descend from on high was relevant to our interest. If you want to stick to that system, then be my guest, but it's really a terrible system in my opinion, and it's better than we can just make it ourselves, even if it's not top-tier, professional work.
>>272116530I mean look at that pic. If you don't think she's cute as hell, you're just not being honest and you're letting your vendetta speak for you.
AI niggers try not to post CP or unfunny gross hentai challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
>>272116288>>272116359Turning down denoise to .4 definitely prevented the aforementioned issue and some details, like hands, appear to get cleaned up, but at the cost of a general loss of color.
>>272116583You're seriously trying to attack me for being a lolicon? You honestly don't have any idea how lost you are right now.>>272116586What I generally do is, once the lines are fixed, I'd inpaint the entire area and turn it to .1 or even .05 sometimes. That usually smooths out the coloring.
>>272116627Thanks to everyone for the helpful advice. Guess it's time to ditch the convenience of online generators and just go back to local.
>>272116530I'm sitting on 6k+ images of just PDXL stuff I've done for myself and I've posted maybe 100-200 of them online. Mostly just a catbox album to share on 4chan or on civitai to encourage creators to make more. I'm kind of reluctant to share them because better AI is always around the corner. Luckily, I've only found two of my images being reposted outside 4chan so far
>>272116691Well, I mean these images are old images, I still think they're cute. Also, yeah it feels pretty awesome to see other people reposting your images. I've had it happen a couple of times.
>>272116743Also, this is just my loli folder, and it only contains images I've personal reviewed and kept. Granted, it's my largest folder by far.
>>272116743Also
>>272116766Uhm, based?
>>272116200yeah it's real annoying having put actual effort into something and then checking that technically a lot of the most popular recent stuff of that series or tag now on pixiv is AI slop. you can disable seeing them but that is absolutely just masking the real issue that, for all the people bitching about this shit here and elsewhere, the average viewers/consumers often don't seem to mind it much as long as it's catering to whatever niche fetish or character. they'll rate it highly even if it looks like fucking shit with fucking obvious melting eye errors and such. it's actually made me disgruntled with how fucking tasteless and blind so many people fucking are.
>>272112875AI slop looks like trash. It’s not “new art” because all this crap looks the same that I can easily identity it in a glance. Why jannies never made AI shart a bannable offence is beyond me.
I hate AI just for making google image search fucking useless. It poisons the well. I don't care about ANY argument in favor of AI so long as it is allowed to make google image search useless. Fix the GIS issue and then we can talk.
>>272116941yeah you can tell there are a few common templates being passed around and the average person dabbling with it doesn't really have it tuned specifically and they have this odd washed out impressionist look to them. it's really richly ironic that they often have literally soulless-looking empty eyes or even misshapen eyes like fucking rotting corpses or something. granted I have seen that some people seem to put a lot of care into customizing their models and manage to attain reasonably-accurate looking renditions and also must do a lot of quality control (or likely touch up things manually) so as to not upload fucking crap. but that's a minority, probably like 1 in 50 or something, maybe even 1 in 100. people who have a little bit of art skill who are able to correct or touch-up things helps a lot but most prompters have literally fucking 0 skills at all, probably can't even fucking draw a stick figure and are tickled pink to larp as artists now and upload ugly boring crap.
>>272116980I'm all for AI, but this does annoy the fuck outta me. I search for a character on google and half the results are AI. Fix your shit, google
>>272116941Hmm maybe the newer stuff does look better even if it looks slightly less anime.
>>272117001I may regret asking, but why are you looking for pictures of characters on google instead of one of the MANY dedicated anime image archive sites?
>>272116993I do manual touch-ups when I really like how an image came out. I have a little bit of skill from frankensteining rpgmaker portraits way back in the day. It only takes like 30 minutes to an hour to fix most issues on an image, which is peanuts compared to, you know, having to manually draw the whole fucking image yourself.
>>272116993For me, making art is a feeling in the first place, and just generating stuff doesn't bring satisfaction at all. Being photo editor is another thing, and AI is good for that, but not for something that requires a soul
>>272117082It's faster. I'm usually just looking for references like eye color, which isn't always correct in AI images
>>272112875AIslop garbage is not real art and all of it is just an inferior soulless regurgitation of better -pre-existing works.Keep AItrash in the low IQ places like facebook
>>272117174So you acknowledge that dedicated anime image archives exists, but you still turn to google where you have a high chance of encountering an AI image? And then you get mad over it?
>>272117193Yes. It's extra steps I don't want to take. Why go to something like gelbooru when I can just type the characters name into my address bar and hit enter? It wouldn't be so bad it they weren't often the top results
>>272117231Alright then, glad we cleared that up. Can't say I sympathize though.
>>272117193there are plenty of reasons you would use google image search that arent for anime and seeing the results flooded with AI is blood boiling
>>272117395Yeah but anon was specifically talking about using google to look up images of anime characters. I'm only talking about that.
>>272112875I do this with hentai specifically
drawfag, i don't see the problem. i use ai for backgrounds here and there (organic/chaotic stuff because, as we can see in the op image, ai can't into correct details or even line continuity). reasonble timesaver for some shit but pretty awful in rest.
>>272117174>>272117231>>272117395Play around with the minus operator like this -ai . Test that. It excludes terms.
>>272112875Reminder your image looks like garbage
>>272118334Learn how to post while not bumping shit.
>>272118346>>272118367>>272118402t-t-today junior
>>272118346>>272118367>>272118402Guessing it's 5am everywhere and I'm not the only one that's overdue to go to bed.
>>272112875AI art indirectly proved the existence of the human soul.Also, there's always something "off" about them. I'll admit it's been ages since I've learned art, but in that picture you've just posted, the lighting makes no sense. It's small things like that which makes them feel uncanny.
>>272116200real artists are as soulless and creatively bankrupt as prompt engineersyeah buddy go draw a blue archive girl doing missionary i'm sure you fucking love that game and that character
>>272112875might as well try to tell me mobile/isekai/tuber/gacha/(shounen)general/esl sea or spic posters and stuff like streaming are good for series old or newyou're all just shitters that only produce nonsense in your lives wanting attention that no one should give youi don't need a downgrade of anything, have ai make a bizarre version of 4chinchin and stay there
Why does all AI pic have this weird shading that just look super uncanny? Like I can't point out what wrong but it just doesn't look like normal fanart at all.
How does /a/ do it? Even with all it's flaws it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other media boards.
>>272119679It doesn't always. It's just 90% of people are using bad settings
