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ACTIVATE THE COINS NOW
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Do not worry, Officer Kakin will kill Martial Law and save the day.
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During his epic Martial Law Battle, Benjamin will suddenly collapse and die because a random beyond child randomly died in random place.
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Shota Halkenburg
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Babimyna is noticeably younger than all the other guards so he is beyonds kid.
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During his fierce battle against Kurapika, Tserriednich will saw a future that he suddenly collapses and dies, because a random beyond child randomly died in random place.
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>Clownfags were so assblasted by Chrollo that they even seethe about the phantom troupe getting a backstory
Am crying rn
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>>272321388
>will saw
It's time to stop
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Can we kill Benjobin
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>>272321351
Since Benjamin's beast was able to destroy fugetsus curse would it even matter if he got cursed?
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>>272321299
He is going to get killed vy Halkensamico
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>>272321216
Coins are an aura multiplier.
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>>272321216
Zhang Lei will finally learn how to use his coins, but he will suddenly collapses and dies, because a random beyond child randomly died in random place.
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Woble finally learns how to walk but she suddenly collapses and dies, because a random beyond child randomly died in random place.
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Marayam is guarded by impenetrable extradimensional fortress and Biscuit Kreuger, but he suddenly collapses and dies, because a random beyond child randomly died in random place.
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Luzurus just suddenly collapses and dies, because a random beyond child randomly died in random place, but people all think it's because he had too much weeds that day.
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Tyson finally reveals her epic Nen Beast's power, but she suddenly collapses and dies, because a random beyond child randomly died in random place.
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Luzurus will overdose on weed
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>>272321527
The curse lady said they’d have to be really close to a prince to affect them because every beast can apparently ward off curses. This makes Beyond’s plan questionable considering he’s using his kids instead of people from a bloodline meant for it.
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>>272321216
>benjamin bot?
>doomp eet
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>>272321833
I want this nigga to win the succession war because of the seethe it will cause.
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>>272321299
Martial law plan is cooked from the getgo because he doesn't have a monopoly on violence.
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>>272321937
Unless Beyond's nen is goddamn stronger than have-not's post-mortem suicide nen, his plan is stupid. Even if it works, a prince randomly dying by curse is a stupid plot device.
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>>272321997
You don't understand toghackshis master plan because you're too dumb
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>>272321971
There will not be a winner in case it isn't obvious already
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>>272321997
Also with how the have nots keep an item on them from the targets and actively focus on it while Beyond’s kids don’t even know about the curse
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>>272321997
A prince randomly dying by curse is almost as silly as a major villain surviving a nuclear bomb only to die by radiation poisoning.
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I'd be so fucking lost reading HxH without NewWorldReview's videos.
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>>272322083
Meruem was moribund after the Rose, he only survived for a while longer because of Youpi juice and Pouf meat. They could've died right then and nothing would have changed in the arc.
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>>272321468
Hisocuck is so uninteresting they can't bear the fact that edge lord Chrollo smoked him and has better writing
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>>272321971
This nigga winning would unironically lead to some interesting ideas
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Halkenburg(20 dudes) vs Meruem(Rainbow), who wins?
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>>272321468
The phantom troupe really has been the best part of the story when they’re in it
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I'm pretty sure Hisoka was given his vvip pass on the 10th, does this mean he's already on the top floor? and does this mean he felt Halk's rumble? Will Hisoka be getting involved with the princes soon?
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>>272322191
The real reason Hisoka is mad at Chrollo and the Troupe is because Machi and Shal clearly interfered with their bout and maybe Kortopi was secretly making zombies offscreen but that dude was deadweight anyway.
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>>272322256
Do you think Pouf could have had a hand in this as well?
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>>272322191
>better writing
Flashback exists so no
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>>272322216
If Halk has to aim the arrow then it can be avoided, anyone with a good reaction that doesn't try to tank it should be fine
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>>272321468
Backstory is a death flag lmao especially since it's a shitty tear jerker one.
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>>272322191
>better writing
Flashback exists so yes
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>>272322320
Meruem could avoid it after getting hit 1000 times first though, Halk wins and is not even close.
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>>272322235
That dude is trope member that can shapeshift
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>>272322191
Flashback exists so true
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>>272322310
Meteor City itself is also just nonsense, we're told it's basically this hyper populated wasteland of about the size of a county and then suddenly it's the size of Quebec on the world map and has woodlands.
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>>272322362
kortopis hair became a nen curse
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>>272321997
We don't know what the curse do. It's very likely that Longhi is wrong.
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>>272322235
It would be a bigger twist for this to actually be Hisoka at this point
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>>272322083
if you die from the radiation poisoning you didn't actually survive the bomb. its not like the radiation just came out of nowhere
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>>272322256
I just cant believe she'd cheat
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>>272322441
she wouldn't see it as cheating, in her mind she was just getting rid of some scary clown while protecting Chrollo. I mean, Hisoka selling them out previously got Uvogin and Paku killed so this was payback.
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>>272321299
>>272321388
>>272321712
>>272321743
>>272321767
>>272321791
>>272321833
We still don't know for 100% certain what the curses actually do or even who the targets are.
Longhi just thinks it'll kill them, but we don't know the method of killing, how potent it is, if there's any further conditions, if it's instant death, how much Beyond is banking on it actually working, etc.
We don't even know if Longhi's assumptions are correct.
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>>272322554
Judging by fugetsu it slowly drains your life force away.
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is he on hrt?
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>>272322551
Wouldn't surprise me if she blames Hisoka for that more than Kurapika
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>>272322623
nen calisthenics
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>>272322623
It's probably from wearing high heels all the time along with being a heavy/muscular man
I hear that high heels life your butt up
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If you force hisoka into zetsu does he just die?
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>>272322786
no.
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>>272322597
We don't know if the curse of Fugetsu is from a Beyond baby. It might be Luzurus or an untouchable.
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>>272322786
his wounds are sealed, anon. he just couldnt make his prosthetics
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>>272322235
>does this mean he felt Halk's rumble?
Hisokek would be hiding in blanket so this scary rumble cannot find him
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>>272322842
actually he might be able to keep them too, they're nen objects that can deattach from his Aura and not disappear. Maybe he wouldn't be able to move them, but they'd remain.
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>>272321299
*Steals all of the abilities you've inherited*
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Youpi is cool
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>>272321468
He mindbroke millions
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>>272322644
Based. Pakunoda was kind and may still get a second chance at reincarnation in their child. Imagine Pakunoda in his Nen ghost form watching Kurapika and Machi make up and make love.
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>>272321216
I will now redeem my coin, Mr. Zhang
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>>272322337
>Backstory is a death flag lmao especially since it's a shitty tear jerker one.
I believe characters without backstory died more than characters with backstory.
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>>272322803
I still think it's a consequence of leaving the ship but avoiding the hands.
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>>272323094
Irrelevant nameless characters, sure.
For important characters, backstories are death flags.
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>>272319255
Youpi's Blast is much, much, much stronger than a drone strike.

Its stronger than a 5000kg bomb.
I don't trust the calculations of the wiki, but the amount of force concentrated at least exceeds conventional bombs and approaches MOAB territory
It overpowers uvogin to such a retarded extent,
Since the guy claimed a bazooka "stings". Yeah.
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>>272323102
Also very possible.
There's so much lethal BS on this boat that it can be any number of things.
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>>272322874
he may be a shitter but he doesnt run from fights
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>>272322623
Giant glutes and quads is just an athlete thing. He's very low body fat and has high test.
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>>272321712
I like Zhang's beast and the design is personally my favorite but I'm enjoying the bullying he's receiving these last chapters.
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>>272323167
Short king
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>>272323103
>For important characters, backstories are death flags
I remember countless named characters died without ever revealing their backstory. Baise, Barrigen, Bodoro, Bopobo, Bushidora, Bourbon, Cheetu, Dalzollene, Flutter, Goto... and I haven't even finished letter G.

How many characters died after flashback, anon?
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>>272322803
The fact that she sees 2 doors should be a good enough clue it's probably Luzurus (trap probably won't count as direct target or some bullshit) or another nen user. Though the way that Nencho figured it out is complete bullshit (lol drugs must be him).
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>>272323269
Its not luzurus.
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>>272323269
Nencho is bloodthirsty so she wants to kill all other princes. Killing Luzurs is simply a change of priority. I believe GSB's instinct to make Fugetsu survives and wins distorted her mind somehow.
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I can hold ren for over 15 minutes now and the feeling of my aura went from the "warm viscous liquid" feeling that is described for normal auras to the "pins and needles" feeling described from strong auras.
I still need to practice zetsu and actually holding ren while doing things other than meditating, but I can feel my nen getting stronger. I will be the first person to unlock hatsu in real life.
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>>272323269
>The fact that she sees 2 doors should be a good enough clue it's probably Luzurus
Or maybe Nencho is causing the power to target both her and Kacho's real body.
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>>272323332
Don't stay in a sauna too long, anon.
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>>272323332
I practice holding in cigarette smoke in order to increase my lung capacity like my hero Morel
Soon I will have the greatest lungs on earth!
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>>272323422
He smokes a pipe not a fag.
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>>272323514
That must be the secret to his gains
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After "14" the coins will reset to "1" and they are for a kind of voting system where nen boosts and forced zetsus will be dolled out to living princes with more or less active coins
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The ending to the ca arc is so good, I like the fact a cheap bomb killed them, just like how it doesn't matter how good of a boxer or MMA fighter you are a gun is still killing you
t. Retard analysis
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Sexiest ship? Kurachi
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>>272321833
Who is going to break the taboo first?
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>>272323706
I'm ready for 10 chapters of Tyson's subplot
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>>272323706
What will be the taboo?
>Hurting her guard
>Calling her faggot
>Her guards kiss other lady
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>>272323779
>I think Kana Nishino sucks!
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anyone got that image of oito and benjamin assuming control of woble and getting breastfed? i didnt save it because i was embarrassed of even the idea of saving it, but now that i THOUGHT about it, if they dont post it then i will! (resolved)
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>>272323667
holy yum
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>>272323852
That was halkenberg
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>>272323852
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>>272323889
Saved
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>>272323869
my bad, brother i did mean halkenburger but it was a freudian slip
>>272323889
and thank you friend, whoever drew this is a legend
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>3 days until 404
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>>272323111

So you're saying...Strong Nen!?!?
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>>272323942
i know people will not agree but holy shit, bisky is real hot in this arc especially in that suit holy shit
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If Benjamin’s secret is that he has a kid, then I think Benjamin will stick around for a while longer, because it would be a waste if no one tries to take the kid hostage to control Benjamin before he dies.
I think the current situation with Halkenburg and Benjamin will end in a draw for the time being.
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Strong Nen is played out imo... Zhang Coin is in.
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How plausible is the "Troupe is actually good guys" angle? If you assume they aren't responsible for the kurta massacre, has the Troupe ever killed anyone innocent on-screen? My recollection is that they only killed people associated with the mafia.
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>>272323955
big stuff happening in 2 more weeks
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>>272323998
Are you forgetting about all of the people that Chrollo killed in Heaven's arena to take out Hisoka?
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>>272323974
>i know people will not agree but holy shit, bisky is real hot in this arc especially in that suit holy shit
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>>272323998
Who says the Kurta Clan didn't deserve it?
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>>272323998
>has the Troupe ever killed anyone innocent on-screen
Well Feitan and Phinks killed some players in Greed Island, and Chrollo did control some people in Heavens Arena, 7 or 8 people died, if we don't include unspecified number of people who was within radius of explosion. But on the normal circumstances, they don't mess with civilians.
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>>272323974
Lot of suit qts this arc
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>me reading the new chapters
I'm not gonna lie fellas I've forgotten everything since last time. In fact I don't even think I knew what was happening last time because I forgot that time as well.
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>>272324028
im just gonna say it, vergei is a bold man. he is a man of extremes, a lolicon and die-hard (rock-hard)fan of hokuto no ken
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>>272324067
Just reread the arc then
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>>272324067
Gon became a hunter to meet his dad. He met Kurapika, Leorio and Killua during his test. That's the basics, rest is easy to pick up.
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>>272324082
fuck that
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>>272324067
someone give this guy the up to date image
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talking about suits, I think Togashi made a minor mistake in making them all wear the same one piece with not even an arm band/symbol to recognize who they work for at first glance, Ben's guards stand out more for that reason alone

>>272324067
>>272324087
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>>272322217
I love the troupe but their inclusion in Chimera Ant felt forced fanservice and it's my least favorite part of the arc, since it feels very classic shonen fights.
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Which prince is /ourguy/?
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>>272324139
Tse
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>>272323974
yep
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>>272324133
That is fair. It would make things easier to understand with no drawback as far as I can see.
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>>272324059
togashi is a sorcerer, he reads the thoughts in our brains. he provides each and every one of us some eye candy and a waifu for everybody. cast a wide net and catch a lot of fish!
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>>272324151
>my teenage half sister's dying wishes? Who gives a fuck? Just throw it in the trash lol
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>>272321216
You are now Curarpikt. How would you go about finding out what they do?
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>>272324215
Investigate with simple give and use tactics
Hand the coins to the guards and wait and insert the higher number coins into the GSB mouth
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>>272324067
it's basically impossible to remember every single text bubble of this arc, the best you can do is just try to remember the gist of it, and that get's a little easier on rereads
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Tse's power is so perfect for getting away with murder, just use ability out of combat, kill your target while everyone else is seeing you just stand there minding your own business, suddenly your target drops dead, but no one saw you do anything. You could even place poison in an enemy prices' drink and then plant it in someone else pocket
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>>272324165
I hope he didn't hear those times that I made fun of Alluka
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>>272324189
>What if Kurapika's ability is manipulating others by teaching nen?
>What if Kacho's ability is manipulating others by reading dying wishes?
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Fugetsu is a nen user at this point
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>>272324296
Tserri kind of looks like a younger version of Johnson
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>>272324271
everytime you make fun of his characters, you break togashi's back
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>>272324297
fugetsu more talented than tserri
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>>272321468
>Seething about Chadsoka out of nowhere
lul
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>>272324320
...at dying.
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>>272324313
In some panels he looks like a younger Netero
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>>272321833
What the fuck is Tyson's deal anyway
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>>272322623
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>>272324059
The one who will teach Tserriednich about love is...
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Do you think Halkenburg's ability lets him access memories of a host? Like how would he now how to contact Benjamin's command post?
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>>272321833
isn't this basically the jobber version of Sale's?
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>>272323974
>i know people will not agree but holy shit, bisky is real hot in this arc especially in that suit holy shit
Who the fuck would disagree?
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>>272324599
forgive me but i felt a twitch
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I'm kinda confused over Fugetsu's situation.
Does she know about her sister's death or not?
I thought the purpose of Kacho's nen doppleganger was to trick Fugetsu into thinking the original is still alive, but characters are saying she's dead and Fugetsu's acknowleding the sentiments.
Is Fugetsu just "playing along" with the other princes while believing Kancho is still alive unbenownst to them?
Does Fugetsu still think her sister is okay and the evil spirits are just unrelated?
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>>272324661
>Sale-Sale : Should be close to Sale-Sale for 8~70 hours
>Tyson : Just read the text, and it also drains aura from people to do something epic
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>>272324067
check out Extra Otter on YT he does a good job of summerising the arc
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>>272324661
Sale's beast improved how people thought of him and could spread from one person to another. Tyson's seems like it may be taking that aura for later use while making people happy, but will kill them if they misgender the prince.
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>>272324699
>Does she know about her sister's death or not?
No
>Is Fugetsu just "playing along" with the other princes while believing Kancho is still alive unbenownst to them
Yes
>Does Fugetsu still think her sister is okay
Yes
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>>272324699
>Is Fugetsu just "playing along" with the other princes while believing Kancho is still alive unbenownst to them?
Yes. Nencho said she is officially dead but actually alive.

But there's possibility that Fugetsu actually knew the truth.
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>>272324599
ok bros, you see Hisoka moving through a crowded area, you have a chance to grab his ass, what are your odds of survival vs death vs rape? How much would you have to be paid to take the chance?
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Rihan won.
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>>272324709
>Just read the text
they'd have to read it though, Sale's being passive and spreadable requires negative effort
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Probably something related to the company she keeps. Not a single female bodyguard, just all hot guys apparently.
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>>272323706
>more than half isn't even named yet
fuck me
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>>272324936
We'll learn a dozen more characters when Kurapika starts 2nd nen class.
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>>272324773
I think you survive but lose hand
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>Hiatus
So soon? I thought we have like 20 more chapters to publish?
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>>272324964
Damn I noticed that mark on Hisoka's back.
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>>272324773
Hisoka would reflexively punch you out cold or dead before you could get close, so not worth trying.
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>>272324699
The weird thing is that everyone just suddenly knows that Kacho is dead. In chapter 386 she's apparently thought to be alive and answering questions about the escape attempt and then the plotline disappears until chapter 400 where everyone except Fugetsu knows she's dead.
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I can't seem to understand the 3 reasons stated in the Manga about exposing the letter. What will Kurapika gain by exposing it?
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>>272325021
He want to see if he can use the letter to blackmail some prince.
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Strong nen chuds have no argument
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>>272324598
Leading theory is she's a transsexual. The "taboo" for her power is to call her a man.
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>>272324215
Write out a bunch of hypothesis and have my omniscient chain point to the one that's correct.
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>>272322623
No but he groomed illumi into getting on it.
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>>272325001
Kacho is 'alive' in Justice Bureau, but officially dead in everywhere else.
Kakin army arrested Nencho and Fugetsu in Fugetsu's room and took them to Justice Bureau, so they think Kacho is alive. However King Nasubi knows Kacho is dead so he closed her room, so everyone on tier 1 knows Kacho is dead. Kakin doesn't explain about nen and ritual so they didn't say that Kacho in Justice Bureau is a nen ghost.
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>>272325039
>put meruem in forced zetsu
>doesn't mean jack shit when his physical strength is MAX
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Tse has to be Beyond' son, it would explain the ridiculous talent, autistic focus especially at getting better, and rate of improvement over a short span of time.
He was also the one who called out Luzurus for being an idiot that spoiled everything to his guards in case they had a lie detector, which prompts me to guess that he might as well had his memory wiped out to perfectly fake ignorance about his abilities, it would explain his progress, his "talent" and wouldn't contrast with the fact that he might be the son, quite the contrary in fact.
The interests would align too, since he's enjoying the world through an awoken nen perspective "for the first time" and the dark continent is full of thing that require its use. He also has similar hair and nose to Isaac.
All that I know for sure is that one of the jannies is a jeet, there was no reason to purge a regular thread other than the fact that he seethed at it having third prince Zhanglei as pic and something along the lines of "DO NOT REDEEM THE COIN" as subject.
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>>272325001
That's slightly wrong. Kaiser doesn't know she's really dead either (thought officially she's dead) Only Senritsu does and that's apparently because Nencho told her offscreen
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>>272325118
STRONG STRENGTH!?
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>>272325118
STRONG MEN
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What are the odds that this guy is on the ship as well? I would like to see the rookier killer stir things up once civil war happenes.
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>>272325144
He's Morena's final trump card
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>>272325144
He's a Zhang Lei bodyguard
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>>272325144
would like to see him plotting something only to get unceremoniously shanked in the kidneys by Hinrigh
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>>272323669
Mole? Low diffs anyone via nuke.
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>>272323696
Cheaman
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>>272325135
KEK
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>>272325001
I think Togashi originally planned to have Sale=Sale actually do something and kill Kacho during the banquet but then decided to just use it to explain what happens to leave
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>>272325144
>Rookie killer ability activates on the newly sworn in rookie king of kakin
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>>272322337
'fraid it's a Naruto tier backstory
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>>272325021
Force the elder princes to chill or he'll spill the beans
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>>272325121
Thing is, there isn't any reason for the winner to actually go to the dark continent. They're founding a colony on an uninhabited continent and then some of the crew are continuing from there to the dc. Logically the ruler of Kakin should be in the colony they are founding, not disappearing into the unknown as soon as their reign starts.
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What was in Kurapika's letter? Just that you can't leave?
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>>272324975
Where’d you read that? But for whatever reason only up to 405 is fully completed so I can’t see how there isn’t a hiatus soon anyway.
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>>272325318
Anon told me in the past thread/
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>>272325287
Diagrams of Fuus body detailing where she's most sensitive, as well as fetish information, and with instructions from Kacho to give her the best orgasm of her life. Revealing this will confuse the princes and take them weeks to figure out why Kurapika would do so, during which time they will all be paralyzed unable to focus on anything else, even more than Zhang is with trying to figure out his coins.
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Genuinely feel bad for FuuFuu and want her to survive, but at the same time think Togashi making her suffer would be the best writing decision.
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>>272325021
First he want to see if any of the higher princes will offer him something in exchange for not publishing the letter. If not, he will publish the letter that doesn't actually have any secrets in it so they will think he and the lower princes don't know anything.
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Sexy manlet
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>>272324986
that little temptress is asking for it
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>>272325560
Makes me wonder if Feitan's ability can be triggered with emotional damage.
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>>272321743
why is woble doing the yaranaika face?
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>>272321743
>babby has more realistic masculine face than kurapika
>the babby is a girl
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>>272324139
tyson
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>>272321743
Why would you use a suicide nen curse to kill a baby instead of just like dropping it or something
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Tse will use his ability next banquet to kill another prince and nobody will be able to tell who did it.
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>>272325949
STRONG BABY
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>>272323706
More importantly who among the otome gang could be a Netero? Madwig is the obvious one but not every Netero child is going to be a chad so it could also be a random twink like Anzel.
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>>272326107
>More importantly who among the otome gang could be a Netero?
???
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>>272325963
He can easily kill princes by sliping poison to their glass while in invisible state. If he doesn't do that then Togashi is a hack.
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>>272326107
Anzel said he is actually Tyson's brother and it might be a true.
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>>272326159
Otome is the japanese name for female centred dating games. Since Tyson's guards are basically a reverse harem I think calling them the "otome gang" is accurate.
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>>272326243
Tyson being Beyond's daughter/son would be insane.
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Why is Jobunaga such a bitch?
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Why is Godbunaga such a hero?
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Killua fears the naga's en
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what is his nen type and ability, seems like a manipulator with rape ability to me
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Killua envies naga's En
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>>272325963
he probably can't put a whole bunch of people under hypnosis
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What happens if Tserri stabs other people during the 10 seconds? Will they keep moving according to future sight even after being stabbed? Or are they immune to any attack from Tserri because they are in different timeline?
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>>272321527
>>272321937
>>272321997
Obviously Beyond's nen is stronger than that of some rando fodder guards.
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>>272326296
Beyond would be so ashamed
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>>272326285
it was a joke at how they were listed in the image
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>>272326696
H-how strong?
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>>272322256
Chrollo could always make that many zombies, he just couldn't activate them all conveniently until he stole the mic. And Chrollo wasn't calling other troop members, he was sending instructions to one specific order stamp clone. And Chrollo using a line to retrieve the antenna isn't far fetched.
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>>272327065
EEEEEK!
STRONG NEN???
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Killua vs Gon CA (before Gon transformation obvs) who wins ?
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>>272322623
>Does Starting Strength during Zetsu training
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>>272327249
Killua eating him alive whoever say otherwise it's retarded
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>>272327249
Gon could probably hold his own but the second he uses Ko he's fucking dead, Killua just hard counters Jajanken
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>>272325039
Just punch Knuckle really hard
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>>272325144
I think he is too goofy for the current vibe of the manga.
I assume that after Killua he decided to give up on hunting rookies.
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Is Balsamico part of Benjamin's ability? If so, he'll be able to tell if he's dead, right?
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>activate Ren
>Tse is too terrified to do literally anything
>fucking Zushi would beat his ass
Your Succession Arc main villain everyone...
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>>272327173
>And Chrollo wasn't calling other troop members, he was sending instructions to one specific order stamp clone.
*One specific man controlled by Black Voice.
Others are correct.
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>>272327439
We've only ever seen Black Voice control it's target through inputs on the phone's keypad, I can see Chrollo coming prepped with another phone or some kind of receiver, to plant on a clone.
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>>272327541
Black Voice only works with Shalnark's phone and two antennas. And yes, we haven't see Black Voice controlling others with voice, but the ability's name is Black 'Voice' after all.
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>>272327382
Same could be said about any ability that uses Ko as a base
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>>272325613
fucking wew
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>>272327368
Being manipulated doesn't count as death. That's why Benji can't use Vict's ability despite him being manipulated for several days.
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>>272328069
>despite him being manipulated for several days.
Actually Vict lost contact just yesterday, it's just 6 years have past between irl ch.389 and ch.403
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>>272328069
But if Halkenburg lets his old body die with Balsamilco in it...
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>>272325039
Punch that fatso with STRONG NEN
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So do you guys think Halkenburg will let his original body die?
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>>272328145
He shot a DBZ energy beam at it and it did nothing
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>>272328187
Maybe? I don't know if he infected himself with the TSK-17, but if he did then yeah, that things just a meat coffin for Thinking cap bro.
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Halkenburg will possess Cammy and become the smartest most beautiful ruler of Kakin
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>>272328145
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>272328187
It could just be that he's not dying and the announcemeny is just part of his trap for Ben. Whether it's true or not the poisoning "happened" off-panel for a reason.
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Nobuniggas are getting too cocky… send in the robots.
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>>272328131
It's an unkown situation. Does Benjamin ability activate when the soul of a soldier dies or when the actual physical body dies? If it's the latter even if Balsa dies inside of Halkenburg body Benjamin won't get his ability because Balsa's body will still be alive.
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"Hello Nen Teacher. I am going into battle, and I want your strongest Nen."
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total clown supremacy btw
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>>272328258
>Cammy rejected taking highborn elites as her personal guards as if she knows Beyond's plan
>Cammy orders Duazul to kill Halkenburg as if she knows that Halk is not Duazul's son
Revealing that Cammy is the smartest prince will be biggest twist in this arc.
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>>272324709
Sale-sale's being passive and spreading from host to host makes it much better
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>>272327249
killua is many times physically stronger and much much faster
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>>272328582
it's not passive, it requires being close to sale sale for a number of hours. Very few people are going to be in that situation.
Tyson's just requires reading the book. Not even all the book, just a checking it out is enough, and the more you read the stronger the effect. So it can reach a much higher number of people. And since those who read the book are happy they will encourage others to read it.
And even if you are not a book reader, you'll find that you're happier after you've read just half a page. So you'll read a bit more. Then a bit more, and the more you read the happier you feel. So you'll read more, and encourage others to read.

Tyson's book needs a bit more time to get started but once it does it's exponential in growth.
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>>272325092
>someone says Tyson will never be a woman and instantly drops dead
Imagine the shitposting
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also tyson's nen beast ability might even affect other princes since it's not technically something that harms you.
Imagine ben establishes martial law and goes around murdering princes and meanwhile Tyson's beast has fully charged and shoots a healing love beam that fills him with love and understanding for everyone
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>>272328826
Tserreichud bros.....
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>>272328825
>getting people to read a book
>in the current year with Nintendo Switches being canon
Sale Sale's could spread exponentially once a few of his closest confidents go out into the world. Tyson's book is quicker to spread in the short term but it requires more effort to get people invested.
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Machi will kill Hisoka
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>>272329093
>Sale Sale's could spread exponentially once a few of his closest confidents go out into the world
Yeah, it's pretty broken as an ability but his GSB was kinda weak and had zero offensive or defensive power.

Sale-Sale downfall was not being surrounded by already loyal and competent people like Halk but with wh*res; He had zero personnel to stop Benjamin's Royal Guards.
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>>272329512
Why did you censor whores? This isn't reddit
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does he seriously think he can get killua back?
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>>272328145
tanked
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>>272329743
STRONG DEBT?
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>>272329743
Not STRONG NEN
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>>272329636
I like the * effect it has on the word.
In short I like the * character and there is nothing you can do to stop me!
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You don't need STRONG NEN
if you have STRONG SPERM like Beyond
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>>272329850
If a super ant that consumed the body of two other super ants made out of thousands of humans isn't STRONG NEN then what is?
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>>272329512
Togashi wasted opportunity writing a squad of competent and deadly whore commandoes who go commando
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What's the consensus on Kaiser? What is his end goal?
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>>272329956
>An army of Fujiko's
>Fujiko's with nen
Jesus...
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>>272329990
Rail Senritsu
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>>272329739
Yes, he is retarded
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>>272329915
Potclean stuff was before Meruem gets angry at Pouf and STRONG NEN happens.
Simple as.
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what's his problem?
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redpill me on what zhang's coins will do
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>>272329990
Father 14 diferent children with Melody
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>>272329990
Beyond loyalist. Why wouldn't the Justice Bureau have them too.
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>>272330324
>Put inside the nen beast
>Initiate a Gacha game with different temporary rewards
>The higher the number in your coin is the higher the percentage of getting something rare
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>>272330324
sink the boat
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>>272330380
just like kites crazy slot
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>>272329956
Nope. Togashi isn’t cuck enough to portray whores as cool in any way
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>>272330303
Brocon
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>>272330324
Win the succession war, that's what they'll do!
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>>272323889
Amazin'
Is it from a drawfag?
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>>272330324
only one man is capable of figuring it out
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>>272330324
The numbers go up
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>>272330567
it'd be pretty cool if that's how we found out, although it likely won't be
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>>272329956
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>>272327368
I wonder what happens to the ability if one of his guards betray him.
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>>272329739
Even if he does, how exactly does getting on a boat that's heading probably tens of thousands of km away from Killua help him accomplish this goal?
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>>272322957
I could see him trying to do that but I think Benjamin would rather kill himself than let someone take his men’s abilities.
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>>272330324
The only thing we know is that the holder will gain multiple abilites upon fulfilling some conditions.
My guess is that the abilities themselves are nothing special, probably just some basic RPG buffs since Zhang is a fan of Dragon Quest, and the strength of these buffs is based off the value of the coin.
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>>272330034
>all the wallets and balls in a certain radius just drain themselves
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>>272321388
I like Tserriednich and his views on women.
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>>272330567
>Rihan is assigned to Zhang-Lei
>"fuck this shit, I'm giving up"
Also the thunkman was lucky he was assigned to Salé-Salé whose ability is active at all times, if he ended up around Luzurus he'd still be there getting a contact high.
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please let kurapika do something
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>>272321833
What's the taboo? Calling "her" a he?
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>>272331450
When Kurapika does something, that's when SHTF
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>>272321216
I hope these coins go absolutely nowhere lol lmao
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>>272323889
LMAO I love this fanbase sometimes.
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>>272331450
Never togashi loves blueballing the reader
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>>272323889
Perfection, I love sucking on tits.
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How many designs has Togashi stolen from video games?
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>>272324067
>>272324718
Check out G.K. too he makes good analysis of the recent chapters. Plus he lurks here.
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>>272325039
Argument against what?
Hakoware works against your "conceptual" position.
Have you ever wondered why Hakoware needs to match the total aura of the target?
Why is it faster to put Gon into Zetsu than Youpi? Why is it faster to put Youpi into Zetsu than Meruem?
If "meeting conditions your conditions" was all it took, and numbers were irrelevant, Hakoware could be a flat 10 minutes instead, and it would bankrupt Zushi or Post-Rose Meruem all the same.
But that's not how Nen works. Hakoware needs to gain enough aura output in order to put someone in Zetsu, and it's one of the very few abilities in the series with an exponential aura output.
The reason Baisé's ability wouldn't get control over Meruem is because she inserting her Nen into Meruem would be like a putting a few drops of blood in an ocean.
Hakoware, on the other hand, keeps growing until it's precisely as big as the opponent's pond or ocean.
Nen is a numerical system no matter how much you cope and seethe about it.
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>>272328656
No he isn't.
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Luv Kacho
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>>272332764
That's Nencho.
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Kalluto will never experience this
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>>272333044
Killua is a fucking dick.
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>>272333044
Alluka can make all the moe faces he wants Hackgashi will never make me like him, it felt cheap then and it still feels cheap now.
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>>272332214
>Have you ever wondered why Hakoware needs to match the total aura of the target?
Because that's how Knuckle's designed it and it gives some level of counterplay to a guy who is willing to humor someone in a fight and is very generous in terms of personality. It's also probably a factor into the invulnerability that Hakoware confers to both parties regarding direct attacks as the aura acts as a kind of shield.

>If "meeting conditions your conditions" was all it took, and numbers were irrelevant
Kurapika can put any troupe member into instant zetsu without a mini-game. But his Steal chain can do it in under something like a minute as well as stealing someone's power. Longhi can enforce Zetsu provided a party signs a contract first which is "meeting your conditions" as well.

We have no real way to say if instant zetsu would require everyone to stake their lives and limit the range of the targets, but it can still be done very quickly under the right conditions.

>The reason Baisé's ability wouldn't get control over Meruem is because she inserting her Nen into Meruem would be like a putting a few drops of blood in an ocean.
Her power has the highest possibility of working simply because she doesn't need to physically penetrate Meruem with anything physical unlike manipulators like Shalnark or Illumi. The rest of your logic is just headcanon, if strength of aura mattered than why do teleportation powers universally work on people stronger than the creator of the power? Manpulation is on that same track where defending is not as simple as having more aura (it can be if physical defense is required). But for that same reason, things that are immune to attacks will be immune to all forms of attack unless the story proves otherwise.

Simply put, nen both has powerlevels but also has abilities and categories that ignore powerlevels entirely.
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>>272333100
>i-i-i don't like killing people!!!
He really fooled Gon
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Chi
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>>272333318
ummmmm, the needle made him do that...
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Zhang is too busy trying to understand his nen beast to die
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>>272333380
Hisoka's baby maker
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>>272332833
Luv Nencho
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>>272330303
What mommy issues does to a mf.
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>>272330324
This anon >>272330380
is onto something.
"After 630 days we can cast Hocus Pocus" was actually a hint. The coins, once inserted in the Nen Beast, gives a random ability.
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>>272332172
I also thought of Sheena, but it has to be the other way around there. Machi came first.
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>>272332304
palm would have whipped gon's ass there too though
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>>272333100
Seethe, retard. He did nothing wrong.
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>>272333561
I think both Machi and Sheena were inspired by Misao from Kenshin
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Mystery nigger
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Those are the future rulers of Kakin, say something nice about them
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>>272333765
so is it confirmed it isn't anyone in the room?
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>>272333768
They will make incest legal
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>>272333313
>Because that's how Knuckle's designed it
Because that's the only way it can scale infinitely no matter the strength of the opponent.
>Kurapika can put any troupe member into instant zetsu without a mini-game
And HOW did Izunavi know only restricting the target wouldn't be strong enough of a condition?
WHY did Kurapika needed to test his chains against Uvogin? If there were absolutes, Kurapika could simply make "invincible" chains, and be at ease that Uvogin would never break them no matter what once he "fulfilled muh conditions".
>But his Steal chain can do it in under something like a minute as well as stealing someone's power
And Steal Chain will ALSO take longer to put someone with MORE AURA into Zetsu!
>but it can still be done very quickly under the right conditions.
Yes! If the conditions are strong enough multipliers to the AURA OUTPUT of an ability, you absolute retard.
Killua could simply wish Nanika to take away someone's Nen without paying any price.
Why? Because Nanika is embodiment of STRONG NEN.
>Longhi can enforce Zetsu provided a party signs a contract first which is "meeting your conditions"
Longhi requires complete voluntary consent of the signing party. It can scale to as strong as they are.
>Her power has the highest possibility of working simply because she doesn't need to physically penetrate Meruem
"Muh penetration" is irrelevant to the argument. Manipulation doesn't "magically" gain control over someone. It works by the Manipulator mixing their aura into their target's and controlling them that way. Baisé can't possibly have enough aura to control Meruem. If Pouf used Instant Lover, then he might be able to pull it off.
>things that are immune to attacks will be immune to all forms of attack unless the story proves otherwise
It was already proven otherwise. Shikaku's ability was literally bruteforced by STRONG NEN.
The last chapter already ended the debate. It's an exercise of madness that I'm still wasting my time with this.
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>>272333477
Shitsoka dicklet and gay.
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>>272333768
I wish I was a conjurer so I could have my own Nencho
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when will he come back?
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>>272334142
If Gyro focus arc ever happens
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>>272333893
>Because that's the only way it can scale infinitely no matter the strength of the opponent.
We don't know that anon.
>And HOW did Izunavi know only restricting the target wouldn't be strong enough of a condition?
He was talking about strengthening the chain not enforced Zetsu.
>WHY did Kurapika needed to test his chains against Uvogin?
To make sure the chain would be strong enough against someone like Uvo in a world where a nenless person can still move tons and run for hours on end without rest.
>And Steal Chain will ALSO take longer to put someone with MORE AURA into Zetsu!
Also not known. We just know it takes longer to put zetsu than it does theft but it's not like Kurapika is sucking up all their aura. Just enough to meet his condition.
> If the conditions are strong enough multipliers to the AURA OUTPUT of an ability,
I've already proven that isn't the case
>It can scale to as strong as they are.
Shouldn't she need more conditions the stronger someone is?
>"Muh penetration" is irrelevant to the argument.
It does. For the same reason Knuckle's can put Hakoware on someone like Youpi despite the massive gap in aura, just implanting aura is easier than trying to break someones guard.
> Manipulation doesn't "magically" gain control over someone.
That's literally what it does
>It works by the Manipulator mixing their aura into their target's and controlling them that way
And this has never been shown to require matching the aura volume of the target.
> Shikaku's ability was literally bruteforced
Halkenburg's power has a guard-breaking property. It went through the card because of that. No different than how Killua's eletricity will always "shock" someone because nobody can block that property of his aura even if they take no damage otherwise.
>The last chapter already ended the debate.
I keep asking this but nobody dares to answer. Was either Shikaku or Balsamilco confirmed to be manipulating themselves when they got shot?
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Just Strong Nen doesn't protect them from abilities like Manipulation or Conjuration, unless they developed specific ability to counter it.

For example, Youpi's Strong Nen can protect him from simple nen punch or nen blast because it deals physical damage and Youpi's aura protects him from such damage. However it couldn't prevent activation of Hakoware because it isn't a physical damage. If Youpi developed hatsu similar to Exorcism, like Rihan's Predator, his Strong Nen could prevent or remove Hakoware.

Likewise, if Halkenburg's joint ability specifically developed an effect which can bypass Manipulation's rule, then it can affect people already under Manipulation effect. Developing such Strong effect is almost impossible when it is a hatsu created by single person, but joint ability's Strong Nen made it possible.
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>>272334594
>For example, Youpi's Strong Nen can protect him from simple nen punch or nen blast because it deals physical damage and Youpi's aura protects him from such damage. However it couldn't prevent activation of Hakoware because it isn't a physical damage.
>>272332214
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>>272322097
>he got buck broken by the rule of majority in the boys' hunter exam that he made an ability related to it
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>>272322235
>>272322874
>feels the rumble
>hard on
>seeks to fight Halkenburg
>is instantly defeated by the arrow
>halkenburg now has the spiders at his disposal due to getting rid of their current top enemy
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>>272334594
Zushisisters... I thought we were smarter than this...
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>>272325144
he probably passed the Hunter Exam by accident
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If Kurapika's revenge based on huge misunderstanding it makes sense for Uvo call him "a fool" at the end.

I feel like when Uvo said "Boss really liked them", means Chrollo liked Kurta's, because they saved Sheila.
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I really like Halkenburg's ability. I think it is well designed to logically be very powerful within Togashi's system of nen and extremely characterful to Halkenburg.
>Halkenburg uses all of his own aura on the shot, increasing the risk to himself and making it more powerful
>Halkenburg gambles a life on each shot, huge stakes which make it more powerful still
>the obvious weakness of this ability, it leaving Halkenburg with zero defense, is compensated for by his nen beast and by his followers channeling their enhanced aura into protective armour for him
And it completely fits with Halkenburg as this democratic ideologue willing to put everything on the line for his belief that the kingdom needs to change to a consensus government.

I think Halkenburg is going to die (even in Mr Vinegar's body), but I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of the first abilities Togashi thought up for the royal family. Camilla and Benjamin obviously have very characterful abilities too, but Halkenburg is the one that fits just exactly IMO.
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>>272334799
Cheadle's nu exam being too easy probably ruined his life since smurfing the hunter exam was all he had going for him.
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>>272333893
You would have to be able to properly envisage an invincible chain to be able to create one, which humans cannot do.
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>>272334924
That's Frieren's magic system, not Nen.
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>>272334656
If Strong Nen can just deny anything done Weaker Nen then Hakoware can't be created in the first place, or Youpi can erase it just by using Ken.
Also Hakoware doesn't make target zetsu by having Stronger Nen than target. Knuckle's nen doesn't increase by 10% every 10 seconds. Only number is increasing, which is part of the rule of his ability. Youpi will become zetsu not because Knuckle put 400000 aura to this ability, but because he simply fulfilled the condition.
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>>272330324
they grant an ability to the holder, if the holder fulfills the conditions.
otherwise they will apply a debuff.
the conditions probably have to be established beforehand in a deal between zhang and the receiver.
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>>272334813
The ultimate irony would be if Kurapika ends up siding with the Troupe to bring down Tserri and Morena's faction.
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>>272335061
It's happening.
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>>272334990
Hakoware is a Nen curse that keep growing inside the opponent.
It's real Nen output because it shields Knuckle from the opponents attacks.
When Potclean was at 370k, Knuckle could have survived Meruem's aura blast (most likely).
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>>272334990
>Youpi will become zetsu not because Knuckle put 400000 aura to this ability, but because he simply fulfilled the condition.
I think people keep misunderstanding this as well. All the interest Nen is basically imaginary nen for all purposes. The only real exchange is when Knuckles and the target hit each other imo.

>>272335125
I think his ability to tank is just an invisible shield created as a result of Hakoware implanted in the opponent. The amount of damage it mitigates just depends on how much is in the bank.
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>>272335111
checked
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Melodies retared plan will fuck up so bad that Benjamin will be able to declare martial law uncontested.
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>>272335061
The thing about the tserri vs Kurapika/troupe things is, why the fuck would the troupe care about tsennderich? Unless he wins the war, becomes new king, and guards the treasure that the troupe came on the boat for, I don’t see why they’d care. And if they did, they wouldn’t bother to use Kurapika’s help just to steal some treasure.
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>>272335326
They'd care if Tse has ties to the mafia members that killed Sarasa like a lot of people think.
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>>272335326
They'd care if he was involved in the murder of their childhood friend.
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>>272335125
>It's real Nen output because it shields Knuckle from the opponents attacks.
Knuckle is not protected by sheer amount of aura, but the rule of his ability. As the rule of ability protects Potclean and some other things created by Conjuration, it also grants invisible protection to Knuckle from certain amount of damage. It doesn't grant 400000 aura to Knuckle.
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>>272335413
>>272335385
Sounds bullshit and contrived
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>>272335326
>why the fuck would the troupe care about tsennderich?

The main reason why PT was formed is because of sick in the head people who see murder as a form of art. (Chapter 397) which is literally Tse.
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>>272323889
My king
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>>272335326
>Unless he wins the war, becomes new king, and guards the treasure that the troupe came on the boat for, I don’t see why they’d care.
I don't think the Troupe will help Kurapika fighting Tse, but they still want the treasure. I think the Troupe will side with Kurapika to fight king Nasubi protrcting the Urn.
>And if they did, they wouldn’t bother to use Kurapika’s help just to steal some treasure.
Maybe they recognized Seed Urn is a tough enemy so they need Kurapika and his friends' help.
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>>272335061
>>272335111
>>272335485
This is a pretty good jap essay on PT relashionship with the mafia and Kurta's.
You can use google tl to translate it.
It seems like it's not by accident Spiders targeted Mafia during Yorknew arc and also target Kakin treasure on the Black Whale.
https://ameblo.jp/sasanoha-bamboo/entry-12777104753.html
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I'm calling it, Kurapika will receive a coin, fulfill the conditions and obtain a new ability.
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>>272335326
Where do you think Tserri's scarlet eyes are?
In the same room as the treasure spiders are hunting for.
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>>272335601
What the fuck are you talking about? He got the scarlet eyes from the Kurta THE TROUPE MURDERED, and then sold. He just bought it from them on the dark web probably
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>>272321971
>Wants to fill Kakin with wogs
Fuck off we're full
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>>272323942
I can't choose which one I like more
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>>272335601
Oh I misread you. Sorry for the anger. Thought you were claiming Tsen killed the Kurta and not the troupe
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>>272332304
palm was an ant at this point. And she was completely covered in armor.
but gon has no armor
without nen killua could lift multiple times what gon could, so his base is stronger. And gon doesn't have much more nen so he doesn't have the advantage there.
he's an enhancer which closes the gap and may even give him an advantage in power, but his hatsu requires him to focus his nen in his hand, laving the rest of his body exposed to killua super fast attack.
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>>272335701
Why not both?
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>>272325001
She disappeared during the escape but Fugetsu returned, and they're inseparable. Plus the king knows because of the ritual and started boarding up their room (which is the real main reason).
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>>272323514
Must be a feminine pipe then
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>>272335125
but by your logic nen curses can be beaten by having more nen so knuckle should have never been able to curse youpi or the king.

instead it proves that there are abilities that ignore powerlevel and are based on other conditions
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>>272325092
The first theory I agree with, but the above TL claims breaking the "Book's Taboo" is the trigger.
Does the book have a postscript saying no trannyposting the Tyson? Sounds unfeasible.
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>>272335708
>without nen killua could lift multiple times what gon could
Killua had Nen and Gon was in forced Zetsu.
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>>272335924
You don't understand the argument.
Hakoware eventually grows to the aura output necessary to beat Youpi or Meruem. >>272332214
The discussion is that aura output and mastery are what determines what one can do with Nen.
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>>272335962
Also is a different kind of exercise
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The real question is how morel's smoke cage he trapped pouf in was able to block youpi's attacks right below it
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Why don't more people just make their abilities be invincible?
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>>272336030
>Hakoware eventually grows to the aura output necessary to beat Youpi or Meruem
I think what that anon is saying is what I am saying as well here >>272335177 . Hakoware doesn't actually grow aura exponentially rather it stores a smaller amount of aura when Knuckles attacks but the rest of the interest is imaginary nen. It's not really there.
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>>272335962
The /fit/ baseline standard is 1/2/3/4 for Curl/Bench/Squat/Dead.

Killua is nearly certainly doing squats here, if OHP he's doing it in a retarded fashion, if Gon is in forced Zetsu and Killua is Nenned he's massively outlifting him.
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>>272336578
very strict conditions to activate and usually weak effects
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>>272336578
The invincible powers or invincible components of a hatsu we have seen basically don't deal any damage and fall under conjuration. Since people tend to only get one ability it's not always ideal for them to burn that potential just to conjure something gimmicky that might only have one use.
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>>272336661
>Curl/Bench/Squat/Dead
I assume you mean OHP rather than curl. btw I still think 1/2 is easier than 3/4.

Hard to tell how much the weights in the pic are anyway.. mangaka are uninformed about gains except Sako Toshio.
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>"chrollo and the phantom troupe are.. LE GOOD!!"
>still massacring citizens and genociding minorities
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>>272336578
>Nobunaga defeated by a nobody who got nen a day ago
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>>272336860
Shit yeah, curl would probably be what, 0.7 on that scale?
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>>272336918
They're massacring mafiosos and bloodsports enthusiasts and genociding minorities. Stop trying to make them look bad.
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>this is male
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>>272336998
I have only done light weights on curls. Wonder how a one rep max on curls would feel.
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>>272335962
>Killua had Nen and Gon was in forced Zetsu.
I'm talking about the doors fool
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>>272337022
the things you can achieve without nen in this world is baffling.
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>>272335061
>>272335111
Yeah, im confident the ones responsible for Sarasa's murder is either the Heil-Ly or even Tserri himself, although dunno if he was already at the age of being a fucking psycho
Probably responsible for whatever caused the demise of the Kurta
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>>272336578
because you can't make an invincible ability. Someone else could make an ability that trumps your ability.
and to make an ability that ignores powerlevels or defenses or other things like that you need to have strict conditions so its usefulness is limited
>>272336620
some people have difficulty understanding even slightly complex concepts.
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Are Henry and Chadhan still the boat's protagonists?
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>>272337108
Night divides the day
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>>272337128
I don't know the map, is Kakin in any way shape or form close to Meteor city or whereve the Kurta live? Seems ridiculous some unaligned country we don't even hear about until post-greed would have their mafia and royalty running around doing this shit unless those places are on the border.
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>reach the Election arc
>suddenly moe garbage
and this was before the asspull wishes
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>>272327249
Goon is just stronger, faster and heterosexual.
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What do the coins signify? If you get the answer wrong before the chapter reveal, you're a certified retard who would not survive the royal selection.
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>>272337108
The doors was before Gon and the gang had had literally ANY strength training, at all. It's a worthless precedent.
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when will killua pay attention to his little brother?
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>>272337283
Only one thing can save the series now.
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>>272337327
Buying exclusive skins at the Zhang premium shop
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>>272337327
crypto scam
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>>272337354
When he makes his black hair spikey.
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>>272337414
You can also use it to buy the SUccesion War battle pass, which is the more cheap option if the skin you want is part of the current pass. Personally, I'm saving my coins for when the "hair down" chadunaga skins drops.
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>>272323833
>I think Kana Nishino sucks!
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>>272337327
The coins gain value either over time or when more coins are given out later.
This means that those who have been holding a coin for the longest also end up with the highest-value coins.
Those who have been holding a coin for such a long time were close to Zhang Lei—or they acquired them from people who were.

Assuming the coins do anything I mean assuming their conditions are fulfilled when you insert them into the mouth of Zhang Lei's Nen Beast, you'd have to be physically close to Zhang Lei to do that.
Zhang Lei cannot see his own Nen Beast, so the coins are of no value to him and his best use for them is to give them out to loyal followers, both to increase their value and so those followers can actually cash them in.

When we add all these up, the coins encourage Zhang Lei to reward his followers (and useful followers who know Nen in particular), to increase the number of his followers, and to keep them close. His most loyal followers (with the oldest or the most coins) are then granted strong boons when they cash them in. And they're encouraged to do so only if it's worth the time investment.
This all aligns with and would be useful to what kind of king Zhang Lei would be, and how he's been behaving during the succession war: patient, a little passive, tries to make and maintain useful alliances.
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>>272337260
I don't think we know where meteor city is but kakin is obviously china
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>>272337660
Nope. The coin number goes up by feeding on the nen of their carriers. That's why only two coins have gone up in numbers, the one that benjamin's guard picked up and the one Tenftory (who asisted Pika's nen classes). Both the only people with coins and that can use nen inside Zhang lei's room.
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>>272337327
it's a token of an agreement between zhang and another person.
when the holder fulfills the agreement they receive a power from the coin.
they do nothing because zhang has only been giving them to people without requiring anything of them
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The 99 anime covered everything of real quality.
You can seethe now.
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>>272337400
I've never seen the movie but apparently they wasted that on guys that didn't even use nen lol (some other shit)
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>>272337758
Ochima is China you mongoloid
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>>272337758
That's what I mean, if a bunch of Chinamen were going around doing this shit people would fucking know.
You wouldn't need to set up a secret darkweb honeytrap you would just need to merc the slants. Kakin is an "outsider nation" at least until current arc, with no links to the V5 nations and have demonstrated complete mutual ignorance of anything other than broad knoweldge like the existence of the HA.
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>>272323889
holy fuck
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>>272337758
>>272337902
I'll add that Meteor City is likely central/south Yorbia based on what we know about it.
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So, after inevitable Halkenburg death in 2 chapters, who will be the next prince to die?
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>>272321216
>ACTIVATE THE COINS NOW
HAAAAA! NNNNHHHHNHHHHHH! HHNNGGHHNNNN! NNNNNRRRAAAAA!

Did it work? I can't use nen, BTW.
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>>272326737
>Beyond would be so ashamed
I don't think Beyond has the capacity for shame looking at his associations.
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>>272337108
Then Leorio scales above Gon and Pika in raw strength(The only Redpilled powerscaling take)
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>>272337260
I don't think it matters, meteor city's infamous society probably attracts mafias and psychos from everywhere, any of kakin's families could be there without needing many excuses, they are full of psychos
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THIS is how Chrollo fans are gonna look once it’s confirmed Sheila, he-ly, 4th prince, and Pariston had nothing to do with the Kurta massacre, and the troupe really are just sick evil bastards
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>>272338356
yes. But leorio is also older than gon who is still a kid so after puberty gon would become even stronger
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>>272338467
Gon will be a manlet forever due to excesive weighlifting during growth development years
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>>272337902
The honeytrap is probably for the sake of destroying the complete web of psychos rather than just the ones that directly killed Sarasa
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>>272338565
That's neither here nor there to the point that anyone Kakin having anything to do with this beyond being a buyer is incredibly contrived.
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who has the chrollo ink art?
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>>272337260
A country without laws would obviously attract criminals.
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>>272336661
>if OHP he's doing it in a retarded fashion
This argument was already stupid and it keeps going downhill
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>>272338748
Meteor City is fucking tiny. Also the Red Eyed Devils were not in Meteor City.
I think Kura might have heard if a bunch of slants were poking around in the preceding days.
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>>272338421
Its dubious
Nobunaga certainly said something like "we were like that at the beginning, resent was the driving force" yadda yadda, suggesting they changed at one point and are no longer tied to vengeance alone, at least
It would still be extremely ooc for them to torture innocent children though, unless something really fucking drastic happened inbetween the birth of the spider and the massacre
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>>272338702
See >>272338394
Its possible though? Specially given the City's nature
IRL theres chinese and russian mafias even in fuckin southamerica of all places, and its never just buying
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>>272337038
>mafiosos aren't real people, because...THEY JUST AREN'T, OKAY
I love the Spiders as much as the next guy, but they are NOT good people (I dare say, it is actually the reason why I like them)
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I know who SIlent Majority is
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Hunter scholars of /a/, I have a question for you.
Could Shalnark's antennas or Illumi's needles manipulate Meruem?
Are the conditions for coercive Nen manipulation absolute or does coercive manipulation work by overpowering the host with the attacker's aura (implying that it can be countered by STRONG NEN)?

One one hand, when Hisoka saw Illumi's "special" needles that turn people into needlemen he said "that's some nice aura", implying that Illumi's coercive manipulation ability hinges on the amount of aura he infuses into his needles and not the fulfilment of some arbitrary/absolute condition (if target is hit, then they're controlled).

ON THE OTHER HAND, When the Hisoka was fighting Chrollo, it was made very clear that Shal's antennas were a one shot ability, and that's Hisoka's reserve of aura, which I'd assume would be superior to Shal's and Chrollo's, wouldn't avail him if he were hit.

So what is it? Can STRONG NEN nullify coercive manipulation abilities? Or could Shal manipulate Meruem?
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>>272335111
mizaistom has seen some shit..
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>>272339496
Didn't read your post just wanted to say that STRONG NEN is not a real argument since it comes from the same retard that's constantly spewing "MUH MARTIAL LAW" bullshit. An actual scholar like Balsamilco believed in the first come first served rule.
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>>272337327
It's be easier to guess what Togashi was influenced by and then extrapolate from there. Could be something to do with Bitcoins where they appreciate in value and you get a boost/lent ability depending on the value of your coin when you return it, with some kind of risk factor that could cause the value of the coin to crash/pop if you hoard it too long.
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>>272339733
>bit coin inspiration
I doubt it, Zhang Lei's guardian beast started puking coins before bitcoin and other similar stuff started getting popular.
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>>272339550
>STRONG NEN IS NOT REAL OK
Strong nen bros... We broke his mind
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>>272339797
>Strong nen is real because benjamin says so!!!!
Benjamin also says that Halkenburg being Unma's child is only na internet rumor. Or that if Halkenburg body dies that means Balsamilco wasn't manipulated by the 9th prince. Do you also agree with both of these statements?
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>>272339733
It's clearly related to DQ. Zhang thinks it's some valiant nen ability related to his planning nature when in reality it's his JRPG side surfacing.
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>>272339496
>One one hand, when Hisoka saw Illumi's "special" needles that turn people into needlemen he said "that's some nice aura", implying that Illumi's coercive manipulation ability hinges on the amount of aura he infuses into his needles and not the fulfilment of some arbitrary/absolute condition (if target is hit, then they're controlled).
I think Illumi needs to put more aura into his needlemen needles because he otherwise needs a lot of needles to manipulate a target and the control isn't as complete. At least on a living individual like this hunter. The 10 dons also had a large number of needles in their heads as well. With needlemen he only needs one needle for his power to activate. Shalnark said that a manipulator would need to spend years with their chosen medium but Illumi just throws his around and away.

Shalnark can prick someone anywhere and his power works as well. Worth noting that Illumi has always needed to insert needles into the head of the target.

>Can STRONG NEN nullify coercive manipulation abilities?
Illumi doesn't himself indicate that manipulation needs a lot of aura. Just his power as nobody really comments on how much aura other manipulators use for their powers. It's more so their conditions and in cases like Pouf, the way his manipulation required a certain mental state for maximum efficiency.

>Or could Shal manipulate Meruem?
The story would support that as long as he could somehow get his needle past Meruem's exterior he controls him.
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>>272339862
>he thinks STRONG NEN is only related to Halkenburg
lol
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>>272324918
It's nice of Izunavi to give this suggestion and help his Prince.
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>>272339987
>moving the goalpost
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>Day 1 - 11 chapters
>Day 2 - 6 chapters
>Day 3 - 3 chapters
>Day 4 - 5 chapters
>Day 5 - 1 chapter
>Day 6 - 2 chapters
>Day 7 - 1 chapter
>Day 8 - 1 chapter
>Day 9 - 3 chapters
>Day 10 - 12 chapters
>Day 11 - +2 chapters...
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>>272339914
Imagine this:
>Chrollo steals Meleoron's ability
>He borrows Shal's ability
>He sneaks up on Meruem using Perfect Plan
>Plants the antenna in Meruem's eye
>Commands Meruem to tear his heart out and crush it
Chrollo could've ended the Palace Invasion with some minor cooperation with Knov for positioning, and the rest of the team for providing a distraction.

This is why I think that Hisoka surviving a super-prepped Chrollo is beyond impressive, Chrollo can take down ANYONE with the right abilities and enough prep.
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>>272340073
>retard thinks I'm moving the goalposting
lmao
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OH MY TROUPE CAN WE PLEASE BE RETCONNED TO BE HEROS WHO ONLY KILL MAFIA AND BAD GUYS
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>>272340173
Thank you! I wanted to see this. day 10 was insane.
>inb4 we jump back to another characters day 10 perspective.
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If you try to manipulate me, I will simply use my superior muscular strength to overpower it, condition cucks have nothing on STRONG MEN
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>>272324918
>a taboo is not acting like the character
Does this mean the GSB will make them become the character they are playing?
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>>272339496
>Could Shalnark's antennas or Illumi's needles manipulate Meruem?
probably not
>Are the conditions for coercive Nen manipulation absolute or does coercive manipulation work by overpowering the host with the attacker's aura (implying that it can be countered by STRONG NEN)?
it depends. Shalnark and Illumi are very cimple and work by attacking someone with an object and infusing their nen, so someone with massively more nen would resist them.
But someone else might have a conditional manipulation ability that is based on fulfilling some condition and in that case it could work on meruem even if the amount of nen is different.
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Has anyone figured out yet WTF this line was about?

>I see and after 630 days we can cast hocus pocus.
[TCB Scans' translation]
>Great. So you can cast "Hocus Pocus" in 630 days.
[Faggotry Plus]

My mind went to Magic: The Gathering because of "cast" but to be sure I'd need to know the verb they used in the OG Japanese (which would be "唱えられる", literally "to chant/recite" in an MTG context).
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>>272340235
>retconned

>first thing they do is plan to steal from the mafia
>don't kill Gon and Killua even though they easily could
>Shizuku honorobaly loses to Gon in arm wrestling, just says thank you and leaves instead of killing him and stealing the diamond
>Uvogin honestly tries to negotiate with the Nostrade goons
>Hisoka mentions they sometimes do philantropic work
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>>272340235
My head canon right now:
>The troupe finds Sheila's book somewhere near the Kuruta village
>They wrongly assume that the kuruta killed Sheila the same way the mafia killed Sarasa (the Kuruta's red eyes don't help since they make them look like demons)
>They enact vengeance on the Kuruta by massacring them and taking the eyes to use as bait to lure Sarasa's killer (by posting them on black market websites)
>Both the troupe and Kurapika were driven by hatred and a desire for vengeance, they're two sides of the same coin
>In the end, Kurapika will team up with Chrollo to take down Tserriednich, the kind of body collector scum responsible for the types of kidnappings that started a chain-reaction of vengeance and hatred that cost the troupe and Kurapika their innocence
>We might even get a Kurapika & Chrollo vs Tserriednich & Hisoka team fight.
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Next chapter might reveal who is behind Silent Majority!
Place your bets before it's too late
>Woble
>a maid
>someone not in the room
>a guard
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>>272340389
>murders greed island game buyers for shits and giggles and even talk about murdering players for fun (Phinks and Feitan)
>Chrollo bombs and puppets multiple innocents to oblivion

Torupe being some secret “punisher” style heroes ruins their characterization. They are rejected into meteor city, and therefore reject the rest of the world. Anyone outside of meteor city residents who aren’t fucking shit up for meteor city are nothing to the troupe in terms of killing. They’ll murder any “outsider” at the drop of a hat
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>>272340377
dragon quest reference you baka gaijinn
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>>272340545
Elaborate.
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>>272340512
Whomever it happens to be, I hope they die soon so we can move on to more interesting sub-plots.
And I also hope everyone of Benjamin's guards dies as well so that fat slob can get off his arse, declare martial law, and start taking action. Come to think of it, the princes are yet to do anything.
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>>272339380
sex with zazan (true from)
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>>272340377
hocus pocus is a spell from dragon quest (togashi loves dragon quest if you aren't aware)
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>>272340465
Phantom Troupe can't get anything misunderstood because Paku ability will see their memory.
If anything they just killed the Kurta because they have the book, which is MC property. Law of Retribution means you can't take ANYTHING from Meteor City
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>>272340512
Is silent majority important to the grand scheme of things or is it just a mini boss to make Kurpaika’s nen classes more interesting?
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>>272340524
So to them Meteor City outsiders are like Goyim? Based.
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>>272340561
It's a spell that casts random effects. He sums up the theory by saying after a stupid amount of time they can get a random effect. He does not like this theory as he calls it mediocre shit he already thought of, and he subtly shows his frustration with a videogame reference the guy likely wouldn't understand.
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>>272340659
>Paku ability will see their memory.
It could be like a Killua recognising Dragon Dive type of situation.
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>>272340699
Meteor city is an amalgamation of multiple religious extremist . They worship Christ (and have pedophile older men running things, yes Chrollo was buttfucked while trained by the elders), they resort to suicide bombing as their main form of fighting (we know who I’m talking about), and they are a rejected bunch often demonized and therefore are extremely serious about keeping what’s there’s
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>>272340798
Based and Christlim pilled
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>>272321468
Remember when people argued that their fight wasn't fair? Plenty of laughs were had that day.
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>>272340798
>Meteor city is an amalgamation of multiple religious extremist . They worship Christ (and have pedophile older men running things, yes Chrollo was buttfucked while trained by the elders

Hisokeks projecting lel
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>>272338933
Idk isn't the troups whole philosophy based off of Meteor City's values,of everyone inside the city being like family but the outside is garbage?(except the troupe is using these values as an excuse for their crimes, unlike the city which just bites back really really hard when provoked)
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>>272340798
Phantom Troupe is satanist since Chrollo is named Lucifer and wears an upside down cross. He even says Judas wasnt a traitor
Kurapika is Christian Holy Chain and Stealth Dolphin has a cross
Kurta massacre was a Satanic ritual
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>>272340953
That’s what I thought but apparently to troupefags it’s muh
>Justice must be served
Wonder what Justice they saw murdering, torturing, and raping Kurta children the sick fucks
Only Machi can be saved
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>>272340995
Kurapika/Kurta's were explicetly called "Devil's Messengers".
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>>272341024
Jews are called Synagogue of Satan but Jesus was a Jew
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>>272340235
Retard
this is all according to keikaku, there were multiple clues about their backstories
>WHO ONLY KILL MAFIA AND BAD GUYS
who the fuck are you quoting?
>TO BE HEROS
i'll just call you a retard again
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>>272324136
Fanservice is good
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>>272341007
Fuck off clowncuck she hates this pedoclown
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>>272340953
Re-read chapter 102.

First half of the chapter if mafia talking about how crazy people from Meteor City are, and explaining the story about a bum from Meteor City, who was wrontly accused of murder, and because of that 30 people were bombed to death. Mafia dudes talk about the fact that you shouldn't fuck with people from Meteor City.
Next things Togashi shows us after this story? Chrollo saying other spiders that they're leaving, Nobu objects, because how could they leave without avenging Uvo. Chrollo says that he shouldn't get hung up on that.
Subtextually there's a big wall between Phantom Troupe and Meteor City and their rules.
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>>272341116
She just likes playing difficult
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In canon Chrollo was raped by meteor city elders and decided to take his pain out on kurta kids what a piece of shit to rape and murder children did they not learn from Sarasa
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>>272341136
Nta but Chrollo puts the spider before anything else but I wouldn’t call it a big wall
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>>272341140
>fanfic
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>bungee... WARUDO!!!
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>>272341147
>pedo retard are clownfag
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>>272341007
Do people really try to ship Hisoka with women? Do they know nothing of his character?
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>>272341163
So they avenge some bum, but not member of the Phantom Troupe?
Crazy.
I feel like Phantom Troupe are no part of the "Rile of Retribution"
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>>272341231
They got revenge against the mafia by a long shot, he just didn’t risk losing the spider for it to get Kurapika.
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martial fucking law
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>>272341140
Pls stop being a rapist, pedoclown.
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OWWW STOP IT CHROLLo it HURTSSD
where were you when you realized Chrollo groomed kortopi into the troupe and used Pakunoda to make him forget the rape?
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>>272340759
>reference the guy likely wouldn't understand
By referencing the most popular form of media in human history? LOL.

>>272340798
>what’s there’s
kek

Retarded and schizoid to boot.
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>>272341281
Why do you hate procreation?
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>>272340512
All the nen users Furykov identified are accounted for now
Woble, Oito, and Bill weren't in the room at the time though
It's either one of them or someone outside the group
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They gonna try to kill Luzurus next chapter? I hope we get to see hisoka.
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>>272341329
>By referencing the most popular form of media in human history? LOL.
What, Dragon Quest? I doubt that, guy doesn't even look like a gamer and Dragon Quest is more popular in Japan than anywhere else.
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>>272341445
Videogames, stupid.
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>>272340524
they are never painted to be heroes you turbo retard, they started solely to achieve revenge
their objective is whoever killed sarasa, wich are some fucked up criminals
this evolved to a complete state of apathy towards the world
in not a single panel the manga wants to paint their behaviour as heroic, its pure vengeance, with complete antisocial and psychopathic behaviours towards anyone not related or of use to them
trying to generate empathic feelings for their starting point is not the same as painting an heroic image of their whole history
and before you mention the kurta massacre, we have yet to see the full picture
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CHROLLO RAPES TROUPE MEMBERS WITH PAKUS HElp
that’s his secret. That’s what he doesn’t want you to know. He rapes troupe members, uses pakus powers to make them forget. Paku watches and masturbates like the cuck she is

Except Hisoka during his short time on the troupe . If anything Hisoka was the one fucking Chrollo
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>>272337828
No, Kakin is China, you retard. Everyone knows this.
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>>272341547
what? no dude
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>>272302962
Does this imply Balsamilco is a Manipulator? First come, first served. This implies Balsamilco operated under this principle and decided to manipulate himself in order to guard agaist Halkenburg's manipulation, not being aware of POWERFUL NEN.
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>>272340614
I didn't like gator hulk as a reveal. It seems so plain and underwhelming. Having her turn more into an arachnid body horror would have been better
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>>272341591
Nope. Chrollo rapes the troupe members. Hes a sick deranged FUCK that needs to be gutted by Kurapika and then choked out by Hisoka.
The flashback is a sign the troupe is done for.
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>>272340389
None of that makes them heroes, dipshit. It just means they aren't total monsters.
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>>272340187
No he can't.
Chrollo doesn't have the aura output to gain control over Meruem. We've been over this.
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>>272341615
She’s based on Zarbon from DBZ so it make sense her transformation looks like a disgusting gator
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>>272337128
You're a huge clown. Stop trying to find connections between Kakin mafias and a murder that happened 10 years ago. Connecting Tserriednich to that murder is also retarded since he was too young at the time.
Not everything is related to everything.
>Fugetsu gets cursed on a ship with thousands of people
"Oh that must be that random guy Tuffdy"
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>>272341682
>too young at the time
You’re right about everything else but age means nothing. As long as Tsen was above 13, which he could easily be when the murders happened only like 7-12 years ago, then he could’ve easily been into murder.
No such thing as “too young “ for murder, unless you think Tsen was under 10 years old when the Kurt’s massacre happened.
You must be a pampered sheltered little boy, but I agree with everything else
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>>272340465
>Both the troupe and Kurapika were driven by hatred and a desire for vengeance, they're two sides of the same coin
>In the end, Kurapika will team up with Chrollo to take down Tserriednich, the kind of body collector scum responsible for the types of kidnappings that started a chain-reaction of vengeance and hatred that cost the troupe and Kurapika their innocence
i agree with this (i doubt a full on team up but something along the lines of killing the source of hatred)
but i doubt the massacre was really the troupe's work, it just feels ooc, for them to torture and kill innocent kids in early times of the spider? it's weird
even if the kurta turned out to be evil, wich i doubt, i don't think they would drag the kids into it, even if they are the offspring of evil people
i'll reread yorkshin though, i want to see all the parts uvo mentions the kurta
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>>272341547
YOU WANT TO FUCK CHILDREN, SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>272341770
>>272341682
Plus the military school story shows that teenage Tsen had no problems with fucking shooting a guy over a class disagreement , publicly . Imagine that little gremlin behind closed doors
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>>272341770
Well if not too young for murder at least too young to have control over a mafia to make them hunt for sport in Meteor City. Not to mention that the Kakin mafia was irrelevant before Yorknew power structure revamp
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>>272334813
Lul what uvo says he enjoyed fighting and killing them.
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>>272334244
>We don't know that anon
We know that. We know exactly how Nen math works.
>To make sure the chain would be strong enough against someone like Uvo in a world where a nenless person
You're saying one can have invincible abilities once "they fulfill muh conditions". If Kurapika could make invincible chains, he would have. No, he made chains as strong as his aura output and conditions (multipliers) allowed.
Chain Jail is not a "magical chain with special properties". It's a chain with a stupid AMOUNT of Nen put into them. Uvogin comments about the amount of aura he was sensing in Chain Jail.
>I've already proven that isn't the case
As I said, Killua can just ask Nanika to take someone's Nen away, no further conditions required. And she will be able to do that, simply by having STRONG NEN.
>Also not known
Yes it's known. Kurapika doesn't actually put the target into Zetsu. He simply sucks away all their aura and then it's LIKE they are in Zetsu. He could drain Meruem for HOURS without putting him in Zetsu.
>Shouldn't she need more conditions the stronger someone is?
No, because the user themselves voluntarily sign the contract.
And even if the user wasn't taken into account, it could be just a strong enough multiplier to be "essentially absolute".
>For the same reason Knuckle's can put Hakoware on someone like Youpi despite the massive gap in aura
But its effect will only be proportional to the accumulated aura output. You're refusing to acknowledge that.
>That's literally what it does
No, it's not.
>this has never been shown to require matching the aura volume of the target
It needs to be proportional. This chapter literally proved the "rules" work differently when we're talking about STRONG NEN.
>Halkenburg's power has a guard-breaking property. It went through the card because of that.
It's not a "conceptual" guard-breaking property. It's an arrow with such a stupid aura amount that it goes through anything. (1/2)
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>>272341770
Why would Tserriednich, wealthy prince from Kakin would be related in any way to a random murder that happened in an isolated city located in another continent ?
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>>272341890
Are you retarded or did you reply to the wrong comment? I said I don’t think Tsen killed them, I just said age is a moot point about willingness to commit crime above a certain number
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>>272341888
(2/2)
>I keep asking this but nobody dares to answer. Was either Shikaku or Balsamilco confirmed to be manipulating themselves when they got shot?
Shikaku had activated his ability and he "fulfilled muh conditions" of having the ability hit the card. It was bruteforced by STRONG NEN.
>muh Balsamico
Balsamico knew about the first come, first served rule and still got owned, but this is irrelevant.
Benjamin's phrase about how the rule wouldn't apply against STRONG NEN is presented as a fact.
You're deliberately being obtuse about it.
You cannot accept Togashi has owned your fucking ass.
You have YEARS of ego investment in this discussion, and it was all destroyed in a single panel. Cognitive dissonance makes it impossible for you to accept you were wrong.
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>>272340995
>wears an upside down cross
fyi, upside cross isn't a satanic symbol, it's a cross of Saint Peter
he asked to be crucified upside down because he believed himself to be below Jesus and couldn't possibly die the same death as Him
>He even says Judas wasnt a traitor
those who believe Judas wasn't a traitor, but in fact was Christ's most beloved pupil aren't technically satanists
they don't worship Satan, they believe that Judas was part of the most important sacrament of them all - the sacrifice of Jesus
the person who thought up this dumbass timer unironically has AIDS and ruptured anus
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>>272341795
Chrollo raped the Kurta kids yup.
He’s a fucking pedo fagget yup.
He should be dead and detained yup.
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>>272340377
He's saying
>hmm... yes, I see, after we fulfill the criteria of humbabumba we can cast hocus pocus to enact higgity piggity... excellent theory, sir. I can start making plans for this, you retard.
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>>272339496
If they can pierce meruem then yes. Once the conditions are met, manipulators instantly win. I'm also in the camp that thinks scream (knows ability) could 1shot meruem if it hit.
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>>272341584
kakin is described as a small nation.
a lot of kakinians/kakinite/kakinese look central asian rather than chinese
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>>272342028
You too, FAGGOT.
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>>272341890
why would people from wealthy western countries be related to murders that happen in thailand or cambodia?
also it wasn't a random murder, it was a snuff movie for perverts.
You don't think even a young tserri could have been the client who paid for it?
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>>272342112
meruem's ten is too strong for knov's puny scream
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>>272339496
>ON THE OTHER HAND, When the Hisoka was fighting Chrollo, it was made very clear that Shal's antennas were a one shot ability
Those statements and "rules" are taking account human baselines.
Shalnark would be able to manipulate Netero, yes. He wouldn't be able to manipulate Meruem.
STRONG NEN doesn't mean "stronger than the opponent's Nen". It means Nen far beyond human limits.
The recent chapter proved STRONG NEN is a thing.
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>>272341986
Benjamin was shown as being retarded without his advisors and now he is being retarded without his advisor. He is wrong about Halk's ability from the getgo because it is soul swap, not manipulation. First come first served does not apply because of this difference.
Halk's ability can pass any barrier. Shikaku's card was a barrier, which means in this nen interaction the arrow passes through it. We have precedence of this with Sun and Moon and Gallery Fake. Normally if Chrollo doesn't have bookmark or open page for Gallery fake the clone would disappear, but because Sun and Moon has the property that it can never be removed it overrides this property of Chrollo's book.
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>>272341216
You do know he tried to sleep with Machi right?
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>>272341682
nigger, Tse, Kurapika and Chrollo have multiple panels connecting them thematically and event-wise, Tse is constantly shown to want to create disturbing "art" and share it, something both Chrollo and Kurapika are against
the kakin mafias are explicitly said to deal in human trafficking in the SAME ARC we get the troupe's backstory wich involves it
>he was too young at the time.
you don't know that, i don't know that
it's a fucking theory dipshit
one with plausible arguments
he is direct benefactor of a mafia wich used to stand on par to the other two, wich are not free of suspicion
are you retards reading the same manga?
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>>272342046
Less sensible but funnier interpretation.
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>>272342218
There are probably thousands of people in the HxH world that would buy snuff movies and among them you chose that one guy Tserriednich. You guys are trying to relate eveything to everything no matter what.
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>>272342440
The one that does human trafficking is Zhang Lei's mafia though, so by this logic they should be going for him (and Kurapika is allying with him btw). Tserri's mafia just sells drugs and black market goods to rich people
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>>272334820
I don't think Halk will die soon but yeah I don't see him winning. At the very least I see him winning against Benji but faltering against tse.
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>>272341888
>We know exactly how Nen math works.
I mean we don't know how much Hakoware actually contains in terms of aura. The numbers could very well just be numbers and the actual aura is very small comapred to the total shown.
>You're saying one can have invincible abilities once "they fulfill muh conditions".
I didn't say that in this conversation. I said the vows were created to strengthen his chain implying it can be broken.
>t's a chain with a stupid AMOUNT of Nen put into them.
To reinforce the chain
>As I said, Killua can just ask Nanika to take someone's Nen away,
Being closer to exorcism, what she did is dependent on STRONG NEN because exorcists can't take on burdens that are too strong.
> Kurapika doesn't actually put the target into Zetsu
Semantics, he doesn't suck up all their aura ever.
>He could drain Meruem [headcanon]
You have no basis to say this
>You're refusing to acknowledge that
I'm not refusing anything. My point is that STRONG NEN doesn't stop powers from being put on people.
>It needs to be proportional.
You have no hard proof, just one idiot speculating
>It's not a "conceptual" guard-breaking property.
It can phase through walls just the same as it pierces through other defenses and obstructions. it is conceptually an arrow that cannot be blocked
>Shikaku had activated his ability and he "fulfilled muh conditions"
You dodged the question. Did he, or did he not manipulate himself first. THis is stated to be an additional step not his default power.
>Balsamico knew about the first come, first served rule and still got owned, but this is irrelevant.
So he wasn't manipulating himself because he was distracted? Then we don't know if a group power overcomes FCFS.

You really just don't understand nen, nor have any solid arguments in favor of your position because you can't bring any examples to mind. Meanwhile Shalnark still showed us that FCFS is real and the contrary is mere speculation. God you are pathetic.
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>>272342378
>he's retarded!!
Holy cope. I guess Izunavi and Kurapika are retarded too.
>We have precedence of this with Sun and Moon and Gallery Fake. Normally if Chrollo doesn't have bookmark or open page for Gallery fake the clone would disappear, but because Sun and Moon has the property that it can never be removed it overrides this property of Chrollo's book.
You don't have a single confirmation of this. This theory required Chrollo to take extra steps, which meant he would have fewer copies, which would be 20-30. He attacked with 200.
If Kortopi was making the copies, Sun and Moon making Gallery Fake copies stay is just a contradictory theory based on limited information.
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>>272342595
>You don't have a single confirmation of this.
Hisokeks living in denial to this day and not understanding nen is the saddest thing ITT.
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>>272342440
>in the SAME ARC we get the troupe's backstory wich involves it
So what ? They were literally continents apart at the time, yet you want to make them related no matter what. Small brain.
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>>272341485
It's specifically a Dragon Quest reference. If he said "Metronome" instead you would have a point.
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>>27234259
Izunavi is right, if Kurapika tried to make an unbreakable chain there would be abilities that can counter it, like nen exorcism. Knuckle's Hakoware is an unbreakable mascot but it can be destroyed by nen exorcism
Most of those 200 didn't have the mark which is how Hisoka survived. We know that a good number did have the mark because of the explosion. Chrollo must've made some copies that stayed but we know that he had to get rid of Gallery Fake at one point for his trick with Black Voice to work.
Your theory with Benjamin is even more unconfirmed than Hisoka as Hisoka at least knew about what the abilities he was looking at were, whereas Benjamin has no understanding of Halk's ability whatsoever
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Could Camilla cat kill Meruem?
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>>272342646
You're literally arguing with Togashi in the recent chapter and you say I don't understand Nen.
Paint your ceiling.
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>>272342748
No.
The cat attacks her killer, it doesn't "conceptually" kill them.
The cat would need to be 10 times stronger than Zero Hand, which is not the case.
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>>272342759
>Character says the word "Probably"
>this means STRONG NEN was always righ
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>>272342552
read nigger, read
>used to stand on par to the other two, wich are not free of suspicion
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>>272342586
It's actually unbelievable how deep in cognitive dissonance you are right now.
First come first served is DEAD after this chapter, and you're hanging on to what Shalnark, who never saw anything more than humans and jobber ants, said as proof, even though more recent information, with higher value on the canon scale, proves exactly what I've been saying for years.
And you still repeat I don't understand Nen like you did before this chapter, when this chapter literally proved it was me who understood Nen and you who didn't all along.
You LOST. Cope or the rope.
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>>272342867
He doesn't say "probably", he says "naturally".
There's no doubt in his statement.
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>>272342924
>it's safe to assume
lol, lmao even
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>>272342924
He has the wrong assumption since Halk's ability is a soul swap, not a coercive manipulation. But according to you Benjamin's words have bended reality to change Halkenberg's ability right under his Unma-sized nose
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>>272342990
Official translation. No doubt in his statement.
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>>272342501
retard
>>272342501
retard, see >>272338394
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>>272343041
Read >>272343018
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>>272343041
>Perhaps
You really can't read
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>>272343105
>Perhaps between individuals
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> it is conceptually an arrow that cannot be blocked
No it isn't. It's an arrow with the power equivalent to a supersonic fireball 5 meters in diameter.
If you can block more than that, you can block the arrow.
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>>272343041
>perhaps between individuals, but doesn't apply when strong nen yadda yadda
his source being?
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>>272342586
>>272343143
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>>272343148
>his source being?
Togashi, the one who actually wrote that line.
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>>272343143
Narrator > characters guessing based on sounds
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>>272343187
When does Benjamin talk to Togashi in the series? Can I get a chapter number?
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>>272343200
Narrator:
>with sheer QUANTITY of aura
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>>272343105
>You really can't read
The irony.

Just out of curiosity ... at what speed do you usually read?
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>>272343120
>Still perhaps
So it's not a fact stated by the narrator and merely speculation from a guy who can't wait to start up some Martial Law and just lost his wiser adviser?

>>272343164
The arrow having a lot of aura means what about my post?

>>272343261
I read it normally. You don't understand what a character guessing means nor did we see Balsamilco get his while controlling himself and still getting soul swapped. The thing that would confirm benjamin's suspicion.
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>>272343249
This and also the whole thing about the princes' powerful nen beasts being able to just cough in the general direction of a nen attack and thereby disabling it through sheer STRONG NEN.
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>>272343293
>The arrow having a lot of aura means what about my post?
"It's an arrow with the power equivalent to a supersonic fireball 5 meters in diameter.
If you can block more than that, you can block the arrow."
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>>272343249
The narrator just says that Pouf and Youpi felt a certain way about the King's aura. Not that they were correct.
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>>272343293
I dunno if you're genuinely retarded or ESL or something but the
>Perhaps
here modifies the
>between individuals
clause, meaning that "First come, first served" principle PERHAPS applies but it DEFINITELY DOESN'T against "powerful nen".

I pity your feeble mind.
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>>272343321
No, it says they "understood" it. It's not a dubious statement. The fact that Meruem could win a battle with sheer quantity of aura is not put into question.
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>>272343330
Still speculation, not a fact. You can't twist that sentence to mean something it doesn't.
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>>272343321
Ever get tired of your mental gymnastics? Must be exhausting to always be wrong yet driven by ego to never correct yourself and instead ceaselessly defend your retarded ideas.
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>>272343308
The narrator said it can penetrate any possible defense. Unless you think there is no defense that can block a supersonic fireball 5 meters in diameter, in which case it would be an equivalent statement
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>>272343293
Why would that confirm it when Halkenburg's arrows aren't even manipulating anything?
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>>272343385
There's no contradiction because at the time of the statement there's no defense that can stop it. Meruem and the Guards are dead.
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>>272343406
What category soul swapping falls under is a question. But Halkenburg is presented as a manipulator so I doubt this is something that relies on any other category besides emissions.
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>>272343354
Based downie.

Tell your carer to give you some extra tendies tonight.
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>>272343086
You're an absolute retard that want to connect ONE murder to ONE particular character no matter what, that existed at different times, in different parts of the world, in a world of millions of people where thousands of murderers, psychos live, thousands of murder cases happen every year, and hundreds of mafias and local human traffickers that have nothing to see with each other. Small brain.
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>>272343434
When Benjamin says a fact or the narrator confirms his statement. Please come back to me then.
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>>272343410
Meurem is a possible defense. Ikalgo could still inhabit his body. And Illumi can manipulate his dead body
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>>272332214
>Durrrr hakoware is le nen perpetual motion device
Not this retarded headcanon again kek
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>>272343478
It's been an year and a half since the CA arc. Meruem's body is decomposed.
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>>272343462
Fuck it, double tendie rations!
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>>272343507
You didn't bring a factual statement. All because nobody can confirm if this power breaks through self manipulation but have to latch onto the only (misinformed) character to think otherwise.

It's sad really
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>>272343522
>You didn't bring a factual statement. All because nobody can confirm if this power breaks through self manipulation
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Wonder how much aura Morena will have when she reaches lvl 100?
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>>272343504
Someone could have a nen ability to restore the body. Worst case Nanika could revert Meurem's body to before decomposition. It's possible
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>>272343561
I missed your counterargument. Oh wait, you didn't make one.
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>>272343561
Nice selfie



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