okay these romcom premises are getting out of hand.how did this get approved the crackhead editors do they even have editors anymore?
>>272447688>This is a NTR romantic comedy
>>272447688It's the next in line for hitting the front page list on mangadex, so they probably did something right.This is only the suggestive list, which nobody use though.
>>272448057I really wish there was some sort of blacklist on this sites, I'm sick of being recommended NTR shit, isekias and manhuas.
>>272447688>SHE STOLE HER>NOW SHE'S GOING TO STEAL MEOH MY GOOOOOOOOOD
>>272447688>Bitch stole her girlfriend and mocks him>Agrees to some retarded challenge she would most likely use to humiliate him further Why would this motherfucker seriously give her the time a day unless he has a cuck fetish?
>>272448457You answered your own question. That's the author's fetish
>>272448168I'm fairy certain you can blacklist NTR and isekai stuff from mangadex, I think maybe filtering out manhuas can only be done at the search level though
>>272447688I'd bet the plot is just going to be that like the blue one always liked the mc and before she could confess he started dating someone, so she gets his gf to break up with him by getting with her so she can try and date the mc.
OH NO
>>272447688I'm gonna be honest "Girl seduces my girlfriend to get her to brake up with me because she actually wants to date me" isn't so bad, but billing it as "NTR romantic comedy" is DOA for me.
>gets NTR'd by a yuri stacythis just means you have to defeat her using the power of the cock.
>>272449373>>272449271Nah this looks stupid. I'd give it a shot if the girl was a cool, stern more androgynous girl, and it was very clear the MC was the target from start to finish, leaning in to yan vibes. This just makes her seem like a disgusting horny freak. Honestly, I feel like what I'm describing is so obvious it probably already exists. Portray the fodder gf as kind of a dumb bitch who was only with the MC cause of his good looks or something and you've got a hit shoujo, I feel like.
People who read the original describe it as "two sociopaths and a doormat"Yes, the two girls are in on it together. It's both a test for him and a competition between them.
>Girl seduces my girlfriendImagine going out with either of them afterwards when they're gross fags
>Based on a LNWhat do you expect?
>>272449514>butt why
>>272449514
>>272447688So, it's basically the main lead's harem instead of the MC's?
>>272447688More NTRkino? SIGN ME UP!
>>272449514So what is the reward for "passing"? THe new bitch steps back and his old gf would want to get back together?
>>272447688that's not even the worst cuckshit manga its got nothing on Chisa x Pon
>>272449514I'm so-so on the story, (I like drama) but reading other people's summaries of the story via the original source (novel) and finding out how it ended made me mad. The fact that the MC had to choose between the two of them, but was such a cuck that he couldn't choose. I repeat, he didn't make the choice of refusing to date either one, but instead proclaimed he didn't know what to choose. The girls even said they're fine with him dating both of them, but he didn't want that. The girls got mad enough that they joined his school club and stated in their club introduction that they're trying to be a girlfriend candidate for the MC. The end. Yes, really. There's no choosing he's done. He didn't grow a spine. The girls are still fighting over him. THAT'S the ending. I hope the manga deviates from the novel. But it'll be too rage-inducing to follow it right now.
>>272450249That's retarded lmao
>>272447688>handsome>looks like any other bishoujoIs it just the short hair and height, because I'm not seeing it
>>272450249God damn that's fucking stupid. Thanks for saving me the trouble.
I'll take a guess, after the weird premise, does it just play out like a mildly funny but unremarkable harem romcom?
>>272450249>The end. Yes, really. There's no choosing he's done. He didn't grow a spine. The girls are still fighting over him. THAT'S the ending.Ah yes, my classic Japanese plot writing ingenuity
>>272447688This is just harem with unnecessary cucking. The author probably got cucked and is now writing up his power fantasy.
>>272450836 The MC's new gf (the blue-haired chick in OP's pic) gets stabbed. Twice. In two different events in the story, with the second one leaving her hospitalised for a while. She is a famous model and has fans going after her and the MC for daring to not be single. But she is also a bitch that never gets redeemed from the step up of the 1st chapter. If anything, having crazy fans who will attempt to stab you and/or your gf + her being a bitch is a great way to break-up. But the MC is too much of a pussy to do even that despite only being forced to date her at the beginning. If you're not willing to read the spoiler, just know that it gets very dramatic. It's domekano levels of absurdity and drama, maybe even moreso.
>>272451263 (you)>Step up*Setup
>>272451263Damn, definitely didn't expect the serious drama angle. Not from a premise clearly thought up during a masturbation session, anyways.
>>272451263>>272450249This is beyond fucking retarded, getting mad just reading the sypnosis, and here i thought that Lemon manga and the one about the CF getting cucked were bad.
>>272450249>The girls even said they're fine with him dating both of them, but he didn't want thatgirls not wanting to share him is more understandable than mc just outright not wanting to date them both
>>272451608>Lemon mangaTell me how that developed. I stopped following it around the 3rd chapter after learning the opposite day swap and the MC's new crush rooming with his ex-gf.
>>272450249>The girls even said they're fine with him dating both of them, but he didn't want that.Ruined.I really want a series where MC and the bisexual cuck main girl build a harem kingdom together.
>>272448893Other way around, Iseki can only be done through search but Korean/Chinese stuff can be filtered through the settings
what's that one where the main character gets his girlfriend stolen by a handsome guy so he forcibly gender swaps him and blackmails him into being his new girlfriend?
>>272450249I knew this dogshit was ragebait but goddamn that's a whole nother level of rage inducing
>>272451664>mc just outright not wanting to date them bothSee I'd be fine with it if it was him being sick of their shit and not him being a punk bitch
>>272451924>Tell me how that developedThat's the thing it didn't That's ungenerous it did albeit very VERY slowly, MC knows Lemon lied but doesn't know why, Lemon realized she's still likes MC and the girl MC likes is debating on stepping back from the triangle
>>272450249What the sigma
>>272452369Jesus, that's terrible. And how many chapters are out by now? I'm glad I dropped it. Thanks for the details, anon.
>>272449514>>272450249Got a more detailed explanation? How is one of them cucking him them working together? And why do it if she wanted him?
>>272452476>how many chapters are out by now?41 and counting, shit is bafflingly popular. I got to around 15 or so before I gave up, now I just come back every few weeks to read the newest chapter to find the truth. I'm disappointed every time but I HAVE to know goddamn it
>>272452551>I'm disappointed every time but I HAVE to know goddamn itI unfortunately know what you're feeling. If I'm emotionally invested enough, I'll read/skim it no matter how garbage it is. I bet OP will go down the same way.Anyhow, hopefully you'll get your answers, anon.
>>272452023This reminded me that I have to finish this series.Thanks anon.
>>272450249I take it that the MC isn't a chad in anyway either. That's rage inducing but it fits with the typical herbivorous wimpy otaku fantasy.
>>272450249Wew lad, that is some piping hot dogshit right there. Who is the audience for this kind of story? Who is satisfied with an ending like that?
>>272452548 New gf and ex-gf are childhood friends. New gf had a crush on the MC ever since she was little and he saved her from some older dude. New gf never stated her childhood crush to her friend, the ex-gf. Until one day, the ex-gf stated she has relationship problems (that she never told her bf) and stated that said bf is the MC. New gf got jealous, told her about the childhood crush for him and how betrayed she felt with their friendship. Ex-gf felt so bad+relationship problems that she decided to break up with the MC so that the new gf can date-trial him and make the MC ultimately choose which one he'll date. Ex-gf is a dumbass however, and in a moment of panic, both ex-gf and new gf chimed in to state they're dating each other as the reason for the breakup to the MC (this is a lie, obviously). Fast forward to ch 1, and because the MC is such a doormat, and despite knowing that new gf and ex-gf are dating, he accepted new gf's purposal for her to secretly two-time him and ex-gf. And now they're on a month-long date trail. If new gf steals his heart by the end, new gf will break up with ex-gf so MC and her will date for real. And if he doesn't fall in love with the new gf, ex-gf will try to get him back without the new gf interfering. Hopefully my explanation isn't too confusing.
>>272453422That's next level retardationIt's almost an entertaining idea but it would require the characters to be very likeable to even work
>>272453422this is so fucking retarded and only exasperated by MC being unable to choose by the very endlike why even bother writing a story where the girls are so desperate to throw themselves at you yet end without fucking any of them?
>>272453532New gf is such a bitch that I can't see her ever being likeable.
>>272447688>do they even have editors anymore?with how bad things have gotten i don't think they do honestly
>>272453590So it's basically to love ru without the girls being fun, no tripping and an even more spineless MC?
>>272447688>>272453641you understand that editor like this because it sells, how old are you?
>>272453643I was going to go with telenovela because of the spicy drama filled with dumbasses that'll make you want to pull your hair out, but I guess that can work.
>>272453422Damn MC has to be spineless to even talk to them.
>>272450108>Chisa x Ponwhy did you remind me
>>272453422>Theyre not actually dating or gayWhy did she blush like this then tho >>272447688And you can’t tell me that smug smile on the blue haired girl isn’t a “I fucked your girl last night” smile.
>>272449514>>272450249>>272451263>>272453422What the fuck.
>>272450108>>272453894you dont know what the word cuck means
>>272453934>Why did she blush like this then thobecause the artist thought is good bait
>>272450249Why are nips so afraid to commit to a girl?
>>272454845>Why are nips so afraid to commit to a girl?because you search for manga like this
>a loner otaku>the school idol>she likes him because _____
>>272455007he seeds and feeds
>>272447688>not beating the shit out of her
>>272455386Blue haired bitch is the most athletic girl in the school, and compared to the wimpy protagonist, she can easily out maneuver him. Other girl is crazy rich and is always surrounded by her guards.Which one can you continually beat without it biting you in the ass?
>>272455447Blue girl needs to rape him.
>>272455471She has, mentally.
>>272450249Sounds like everyone gets exactly what they deserve, including the readers.
>>272447688It would've been better if it WAS double NTR. It's infinitely more interesting to present it as an okyuu doujin where the tomboy CF that the MC doesn't recognize got insanely hot and steals his GF so she can dump her and date him instead in a fit of mind rending jealousyWhat actually happens is Ena allows Shizu to pursue the MC by pretending to be stolen from him because she felt bad about dating him before Shizu had a chance to confess. The MC turns Shizu down and gets back with Ena, and then the WN unceremoniously got axed with them forming a standard romcom love triangle.It was boring as fuck and unsatisfying, and you could feel the fear of losing half his readership if he actually committed to turning Ena into a cuckquean while Shizu power-bottomed her boyfriend from a mating press.
>>272455447>Blue haired bitch is the most athletic girl in the schoolWe went through this already, a woman is biologically inferior to a man, even a pro female boxer can be beaten by an average male
>>272449822>Mikasa taking her husband and child to Eren’s grave Who really is the cuck here, Eren will always be number 1
>>272450836Yeah, more or less. If it actually delivered on its premise it would've been kino, but it's all bullshit from the get-goit ends with a standard love triangle competition between the two fighting over himit SHOULD have actually just been shizu being a manipulative gaslighting homewrecker cheating on ena after stealing her just so she could get the man she wanted all alongit would've actually been interesting if it were an "NTR Comedy" because that in and of itself is already a funny twist
>>272455007If you read the chapter youd have the answer
>>272450249I hate authors who can't end a romantic comedy with a choice or a harem.
>>272447931We call it a triangle.
>>272449514Do they win?
>>272456810No, lmfao, the stupid cuck turns them both into "trial girlfriends" to compete for him and then the novel ends
>>272447688what's so romantic or comedic about it
>>272456642Any chance the manga will follow a different storyline or is it going to do the same?
>>272456642This sounds like shit, why is it getting a manga?
>>272456649Only if he's really willing to hurt her. If you have a normally trained woman fighter and a guy who's full of "you can't ever hit women" stuff, the guy will lose.
>>272456649"Average male", this is a romcom MC anon.
>>272448057That front page list is just a "new shit that got popular(mass favorited or mass commented) within the last 31 days"
I absolutely despise this premise because you just know it's gonna end up with the guy and the tomboy. Fuck stuff that ruins what could be good yuri.
>>272457047Nah fuck off back to /u/, troon. This should've been a bisexual love triangle - a real triangle at that.
>>272450249>literally the one option that no one, not people who want a harem, people who want one of the girls to win, even people who want the MC to get NTR'd, could be happy withJesus
>>272457047All 3 end up single as japan is afraid of proper endings
>>272457074Hey at least they didn't go their separate ways abroad to meet 5 years later
>>272456968Maybe. It has a light novel, apparently, and I haven't read it for obvious reasons. It's possible the LN did things differently. It's also technically possible the manga could just be doing its own thing; which isn't unheard of.>>272456990See above; apparently the LN version sold well enough. I don't know how the fuck that's possible, but apparently it did. I'll be pleasantly surprised if there's a rewrite involved.
>>272457047>yuritroonthat would be the most boring slop ever. even worse than what we got. fuck off.
>>272457047We already have handsome girl/normal girl yuri thats far better than this shit. Its just fetish garbage LN slop on the level of the Latina called Latina series about wanting to fuck a brown girl.
I don't know how Japanese writers manage to take any concept in the worst direction possible every time.
Honestly, the story could have been good if it set up such a lame tropey start and then played it bone straight. Like imagine after that phone call the guy is actually properly heartbroken and humiliated, he takes a the next day or two off school since he can't even imagine being around her or anyone right then. You then have the ex and the other girl realising they've actually hurt him with this plan. Finally comes back to school, keeps space from his ex because he doesn't want to know how to deal with her. Same deal, she now gets to feel a bit of regret that there's suddenly this distance between them. The Princely girl tries to start her contest and he just shuts her down hard, he hates her, she ruined his relationship. He's got absolutely no interest in her, and is disgusted that she would try cheat on his ex.Things basically become a big mess, until he's told the truth. They broke his heart just for a stupid loyalty test. The Princely girl tries to talk about their past, but he doesn't even listen. Hell, after the breakup at the start, maybe have him tell one of his friends what happened, which leads to rumours about the Ex cheating on him going around the school.
>>272456642>It's infinitely more interesting to present it as an okyuu doujinYou mean this one?
>>272450249It's probably going to be following the LN over the WN, which probably made changes to drag things out longer. Since that's what usually seems to happen with every melodramatic romcom WN when it gets a LN serialization.
>>272457180>I don't know how Japanese writers manage to take any concept in the worst direction possible every time.I wonder why it happens so often. It can't be that their orignal intention is to deliver terrible developments and endings
He's JUST like me, fr fr
>>272457205Yeah, that one. There's also another one with a similar'ish premise, but it's a handsome girl and a guy who met at a mixer where she cucks all the girls he tries to flirt with away from him so she can take him home and breed him into subsmission
>>272447688Knowing how it ends, a story that begins because of the girls' stupidity isn't really anything bad in itself. It's just that most authors can't and don't want to conclude that sort of story naturally because this sort of telenovela shit is what sells. The story would've been good if it was about the protagonist getting trust issues and just not wanting to be involved with this sort of bullshit ever again. And the girls actually trying to redeem themselves would make them seem way less selfish. But of course we can't have the protagonist actually emote and have his own opinion and shit.>>272457120From the jap reviews that I read, it seems that not much actually got changed.>>272457189Would've actually been pretty compelling. But you can't market the girls with that sort of story, I'm afraid.
>>272457224>I wonder why it happens so oftenUsually these things have a premise they start with but literally nothing elseand then the story as it continues is guided by reader response. If you go to the raw WN of this and look at the comments you'll see that the ones that were closest to when the chapters would drop are mostly just waifu war shit seething at Ena or Shizu for various reasons and ripping apart the original premise of the storyso what does the author do? well, ACKSHUALLYit's not really NTR because it was all just a trick and LOOK GUYS LOOK NOW ITS A REGULAR ROMCOMPLEASE STOP BEING ANGRYyou can apply this exact same framing to almost every story that goes to shit.
>>272457289not shockingthere was a romcom manga I read last year that I swapped to the WN for because I was interested to see where it went even if I didn't like the manga's ending, and I quickly understood why it ended the way it didand its because the WN immediately turned into complete fucking shit and the manga decided to just axe itself at the cut off point and bait you with a marriage illustration that doesn't happen because the faggot in the WN cheats on his gfthe premise by the way was that she and he got together after their partners cheated on them with eachotherbut then a bunch of other girls got added into the WN and started shitting up the dynamic, and obviously they wind up breaking up as she gets written out of the story
>>272457180In any other industry the level of writing displayed in WN and LN would never make it to print (unless its self published like the garbage on Amazon). Japan has entire publishing arms set up to find authors capable to churning out content, no matter the quality.Imagine Harry Potter slash fanfiction getting full published book releases, then manga adaptations then fucking animes created from them.
>>272457358Kanojo ga Senpai ni NTR-reta node?
>>272457358That's stupid, so fmc got cheated twice and was not a licking our wounds kinda story between the leads
>>272457423>Kanojo ga Senpai ni NTR-reta nodeyeah.
>>272457417Twilight? 50 shades of gray?
>>272457358>>272457423I remember this piece of shit. It made me so mad.GENUINE kuso novel.
>>272457527yeah but it had great art though and the female lead was unbearably cute
>>272457456Those might be shit indeed but Twilight was just a modern update of Anne Rice. I'm not saying bad books never make it to print anywhere outside of Japan but that the level of LNs is significantly lower and that the major publishers do not have entire imprint devoted to churning out book after book like a factory production line.
>>272457565Not cute enough to stop getting cucked kek
>>272457277I didnt like that one as much because she fucked other men before him.
>>272457567It's not just with books, even with other medium from movies to games etc, they have a culture of publishing a lot more amateurish content. I personally think it's a good thing. It's nice to see people not necessarily into the entertainment industry able to make something they like.
>>272457585Yeah, lmfaoThough part of it *is* her fault as she refuses to have a physical relationship period before marriage; so no making out, much less sex. The best he got was pure vanilla handholding. She's otherwise a cool, collected and likeable heroine.He winds up cheating on her with an aggressive gal type girl.It was essentially another case of an author just no longer giving a shit about the original character and premise of a story and pivoting to something completely different instead of e.g. developing her character to be more willing to be physical with the MC, even if that would retroactively make her a minor hypocrite
>>272457588there are things i liked about it more, but it's mostly because it was a much longer book instead of being just a handful of pages, so there was more time to develop the two characters and the gaslighting aspectthe other one with the childhood friend is absolutely what this romcom should've been.
>>272447688This as a net positive though? You had one grill and now you have two grills. You literally can't help but win.
>>272457654Too often I see more development of the love rivals in these type stories, guess these authors really get tired of writing about their inital plots. Instead of completing a short and sweet story, they prefer writing shit until axed
>>272457289>Would've actually been pretty compelling. But you can't market the girls with that sort of story, I'm afraid.Just have him meet a new girl and get with her instead.
>>272457654Changing your mind when you're in a committed long term relationship doesn't make you a hypocrite. Honestly, can't blame the MC if she's really that frigid though.
>>272458073That's how it is when you write a serialized story without thinking of an ending first I guess. It's not just limited to romance.
>>272457456Even those have fucking definitive pairings especially the former instead whatever this >>272450249Is. Yes WNs are so low that Twilight is better than them.LNs used to be okayish back when they had actual writers.
>>272448057You people have a crazy sense of self-importance. This is the equivalent of saying "this is popular on a general in /vg/ so it's doing something" or "this isekai is popular on the isekai general". It's not even "this is popular on reddit" tier. Sure, their (insulated) community likes it. It doesn't mean anything to the world outside. They liked a facebook meme once. Someone posted an image on Japanese facebook once and they uploaded it as if it was a manga. They are literally retarded.
>>272453532It would have to be a madcap comedy with an Male MC who is too horny/cocky/stupid/seething for his own good for it to work.
>>272456642Goddamn they must be really running out of shit to make if an axed rage bait WN with an ending that bad gets an adaption
>>272457289>The story would've been good if it was about the protagonist getting trust issues and just not wanting to be involved with this sort of bullshit ever againHell heres an idea>Same premise but the MC is less spineless, more horny and just as dumb>Goes along with blue bitch's plan>Has his own plan to pump and dump blue bitch and ruin his Ex and her's relationship>Turns out his EX is also trying to get back with him under blue girl's nose>They're all scheming retards who think they're smarter then they actually are trying to jocky around a soon to implode cuck/counter cuck poly relationship while everyone in the school is waiting with baited breath to see this shit go nuclear
>>272456697In principle the husband because she never thinks of him when they fuck, in practice Eren because at least the farmer gets to fuck her. What an appropriate end to the series.
this killed all my interest for meof course, she had to be his forgotten childhood friend or whatever the fuck. couldn't just make her a menhera bi who's into cucking
>>272447688This doesn't work for 2 reason;1. MC is a spineless doormat retard2. The NTR girl and the ex are downright despicable gaslighters with no conscienceIt is a plain old rage bait which i believe should have a tag of its own at this point.
>>272447688damn he's litteraly me.....
>>272447931It's NTR, but not for the MC, is the twist.
>>272459868Relatable
>>272459868So many romcoms are just straight up ragebaits nowadays, like blatantly so.Either from the beginning or become so unexpected like that one about the chick getting cucked.
>>272459868You know how people watch trashy dating show not to actually see people connect but instead to just see what new scandal will be next? This kind of romcom are the same. We're here for the trash, not the romance.
>>272460814>become so unexpected like that one about the chick getting cucked.Too late one? FMC is the one attempting the cucking in that though (and fail miserably)
>rom com>barely romantic and not comedic at allMANY such cases
>>272460908>FMC is the one attempting the cucking in that Can you really call it attempted cucking when she has no idea he's in a relationship to begin with?
>>272447688Already feels somewhat based and the protagonist character is on the cover and doesn't look like a complete faggot so I have no choice but to check it out.>>272447931>Virginity oozing from this post>>272449373Also, probably mistranslated from Japanese. “NTR” in Japanese doesn't mean “NTR” but just “infidelity” or at least someone getting his love interest stolen, it doesn't necessarily have to be the protagonist as evidenced by say “NTR Trap” where the protagonist did the cheating and the cuck was like the fourth most important character in the story.I see shit billed as “NTR” on Japanese splashes all the time where the protagonist is either the hotwife or the bull.Of course, people with a morbid fear of “NTR” ignore all that anyway and instinctively self-insert as whichever member of the cast looks most like a loser male
>>272462625>protagonist doesn't look like a complete faggot Kek. Chapter 1 of the manga shows that this is untrue. So even if they won't follow the LN/WN MC's doormat personality, he still got pushed by another girl to allow her to cheat on her own gf by also being with him. He doesn't even like her, yet still said yes to the cheater.
>>272463119Yeah agreed. I'm reading the first chapter now and it turns out that was only the splash page, not the cover, and he's never on the cover. I'll give the first chapter a fair try because of the concept though.>Muh muhh I'm such a clumsy commoner.Would be far better if he were good looking and the school ideal which would make the stealing even more impressive.Also, is there any confirmation in the story the bull actually works as a model. The scan translated “人気モデルなイケメン女子” to “handsome girl who is a popular model” but I feel that should be “who looks like a popular model” or “who is like a popular model” but I'm not 100% sure now.
>>272447931>Whole point of Romcoms is being wholesome and funny>Subhumans desperatelly trying to creep their shit cuck fetish into it>It never works out and nobody but them reads it>It gets axed or changes premise back into their regular cuck coomer garbage >They run back crying and screaming to jack off againI wish it was normalized to euthanise mentally ill for their own good.
>>272447688Why is he going along with this shit though?Are there no other girls in the school that he can date?
>>272456649The blue haired girl is also a famous model. And while she doesn't have guards with her, if she arrives into the studio with bruises, complains about being abused by you, or suddenly doesn't show up one day, her agency has enough connections to deal with you. Good luck getting out of that mess.
>Taller and uses “kimi” on the protagonstWhy do they always have to allocate the good ones to these faggot protagonists.>>272463797>Virginity oozing from this post.
>>272464591>Why do they always have to allocate the good ones to these faggot protagonists.because only faggots are into that shit next question
>>272464659Honestly, you might actually have a point thinking about it, giving it some thought, roughly speaking:>Females who want a taller, more capable, dominant love interest: completely normal people, probably have sex.>Males who want a taller, more capable dominant love interest: ugly losers, never had sex in their lives.Wow, that actually explains a lot when you think about it like that. All the good stories with cute, actually good looking short male protagonist who get taller, domineering female love interests were also written by femoids.
>>272464979shortkings mind broke you.
>>272465014We have this legendary piece of legendariness though. Hiro is pretty chad.God, just imagine having that huge lizard dick up your arse every night, feeling those juicy jugs up your back being choked by that. Hiro is so lucky.
>>272447688>the anti-yurifags manga for them to self insert intolmao
>>272465536Nigga what? Unlike utroons we don't self insert into the cuck.
>>272462118Cuz these are romcom - they're trash drama made for trashy people who want to see how shit the story can get. Look at the replies here from people who are reacting positively to do is and it's obvious.
>>272448893>I'm fairy certain you can blacklist NTR and isekai stuff from mangadexdefinitely not, since I would have blacklisted all the yuri/BL stuff long ago
>>272465682*aren't romcoms
>>272450249This is the great filter into Japanese culture.If you enjoy this you must be Japanese.
>>272462118except this doesn't really qualify as romcom but more like manga telenovela.
>>272466077Just like 99% of the shit you would call “romcom” because to you the term just means>Wish fullfilment for lonely male losersMost of which not having any humor in it, and certainly no romance beyond “hot female interested in plain male loser: relationship never goes anywhere.”
>>272466213All anime and manga is wish fulfilment
>>272450249Classic nihon cuck mentality>Cant even write a properly realistic romcom ending>Cant even write a male fantasy self fulfilling romcom ending
>>272466299Please tell me how Lain or Uzumaki are wish fullfilment.
>>272466299I'm not sure if I want to have the life Guts had. Sure, I can swing a cool sword, but the baggage to even get to that point doesn't make me envy him.
>>272466213Nothing wrong with escapism. Besides, so much of female escapist stuff exists even outside of anime and no one ever whines about that.
>>272466213good for you that you're a normalfaggot. you might be a bit too edgy for Xitter but I know of a few subs you'd fit right in
This is ABSOLUTELY NORMAL in JP romcoms. Especially ones from narou (web novels). It’s the SAME bullshit boring formula forever: generic vanilla mono-romance pairing but with some crazy GIMMICK. Why Do Only Pro Wrestlers Want to Date Me?My Girlfriend Scares Me!My Girlfriend Treats Me Like a Princess?Real Girls Aren’t Like Light Novels!Etc and so on, the same boring vanilla shit dressed up in some fake gimmick.
>>272466483I'm just saying that most of those things those people call “romcoms” are neither comedic nor feature a lot of romance; that's all.I also didn't say wish fulfillment for males, but for “lonely male losers” the “loney” and “loser” being the operative parts.
>>272447688NoI bet the editors stopped making sense of reality a long time ago
>>272447688I mean, when you think about it, the end form of the assertive girl is her being the rape chad.
>>272466606Isekai is like that too (no surprise) where it starts with some dumb gimmick and it just ends up being the same shit every time.
>>272466675LmaoSeems trueJaps are living on pseudo reality
>>272466617And why is it only when it's for “lonely male losers", you're problem arises with escapism? Typical tourist.
>>272447688>>272453934Yeah that blush doesn’t look like “it was all a joke bro I don’t like her” to me
>>272466606>It’s the SAME bullshit boring formula forever: generic vanilla mono-romance pairing but with some crazy GIMMICK. But this isn't vanilla, far from it. Hell, even the ending is kinda novel regarding just how uniquely shit it is. I don't think a ""romcom"" like this showcases a typical romcom.
>>272466821It doesn't? I simply said the person I responded that means that when using the word “romcom”?You're the one who started talking about problems with escapism. I was talking about problems with usage of words. I'm just saying that you have no right to call out others on misusing the word “romcom” when you misuse it like that yourself..I have problems with many more things obviously.
>>272466213yes, I do mean nagatoro/my dress up darling clones.>no humorbeing a shitty comedy doesn't mean you can't call it a comedy. those types of shows have literally nothing but fucking jokes.>no romancethe most reasonable argument but "will they won't they" is still considered romance. how much of a bitch the MC acts like is irrelevant.there are other possible meanings of romcom, and shoujo romcoms are definitely different from shounen romcoms.
>>272466963You literally said 99% of shit you call romcom are bad because it's wish fulfilment to just one demographics.
>>272467338No, I never called anything bad in that discussion and purely talked about usage of words, and even if I did, that still doesn't amount to the “only” part which you pulled out of your arse.
>>272447688This retarded trope was tested a few times in oneshots and honestly even in one shots it was just stupid
>>272448200I chuckled
>>272467559>99% of the shit you would call “romcom” because to you the term just means wish fullfilment for lonely male losers.>Most of which not having any humor in it, and certainly no romance beyond “hot female interested in plain male loser: relationship never goes anywhere.">the “only” part which you pulled out of your arse.Yeah, yeah. Heard this one before. You pretend they are all bad, but you're only ever going to whine about one type as always.
>>272467573Any examples? Can it actually be worse than this?
>>272467730Firstly, I never called anything bad in that post. I simply commented on that person misusing the term “romcom” as well, where do you see a value judgement?Secondly, it's an anonymous image board, how would you possibly know what other things I talk about and insult? For all you know I'm regularly insulting unrealistic power level scaling in Dragon Ball or the poor art and lack of perspective in Sengoku Youko or whatever.
>>272467808>The thing you call romcom is bad because it's got wish fullfilment.>Where did I say I anything bad about wish fullfilment?>Firstly, I never called anything bad in that post. I simply commented on that person misusing the term “romcom” as well, where do you see a value judgement?Secondly, it's an anonymous image board, how would you possibly know what other things I talk about and insult? For all you know I'm regularly insulting unrealistic power level scaling in Dragon Ball or the poor art and lack of perspective in Sengoku Youko or whatever.Oh, I am sure you are. Typical of you lot to complain about the things without understanding what people watch or read them for.
>>272468065>>The thing you call romcom is bad because it's got wish fullfilment.Where did I ever say it was bad anon?If you need to paraphrase instead of coming with an actual quote to make your point it isn't a strong one, the word “bad” doesn't appear in this post: >>272466213Read it again. It doesn't contain a value judgement. It just points out that anon has no right to talk about others misuing the term “romcom” when the things that anon calls “romcom” typically have neither romance nor comedy; that's all.
>>272468396You began with, "99% of the shit" and then proceeded to denegrate it future. You brought this out without the other anon mentioning anything about what type of romcom he was talking about. Which is funny because then you're pointing out how me assuming you to be the type to specifically target male centric escapism is wrong.
>>272469143Yeah anon, “shit” is commonly just used as a random word like “stuff” it doesn't necessarily mean it's good or bad, never seen “this is good shit” or “I love this shit”?>You brought this out without the other anon mentioning anything about what type of romcom he was talking about. Which is funny because then you're pointing out how me assuming you to be the type to specifically target male centric escapism is wrong.I based it on not counting something with a clearly romantic and funny setup as “not romcom” and furthermore. I didn't make any claim about what a specific person said in a specific post that simply isn't there.You keep doubling down and holding on the idea that I said something in a specific post which I simply never did; there is no value judgement in that post; it's purely talking about misuse of words and then again, even /if/ I there were a value judgement, that “only” angle from you is still pullshit and again, you ignore the “lonely loser” part, the “male” part seems to be what you're primarily hung up about which is hardly the consequential part here but it happens time and time again on 4chan that this happens>Anon criticizes lonely losers>WH... WHY ARE YOU CRITICIZING MALES!?Because the issue with lonely male losers is that they very often think their situation is somehow normal for males; it isn't.
I fucking hate the "I was only pretending to date you so you'd get closer to another girl" bullshit. Why so so many LNs do that shit?
>>272469403>and then proceeded to denegrate it Quite obvious what the meaning of shit here was.And why did you chose>Wish fullfilment for lonely male losersIf you simply have a problem with the genre of romcom, which exists outside of demographics of just hetrosexual males, you wouldn't have brought that out. And I am neither adding to nor twisting your words missing any - simply expanding on your biases you've already shown.>Anon criticizes lonely losersNever said, you're simply criticising media, unfairly.
>>272458183The reason it makes her a minor hypocrite is just because her previous relationship, even though the dude was shit, he only started cheating on her with a bunch of different girls because she wouldn't have sex with him. Most of the reason she refuses to have a physical relationship before marriage is because she's insecure about being liked just for her body.She went on a whole rant about it in front of a bunch of people to humiliate him (the ex) - but I think that would be fine to develop her into having a physical relationship with the MC. It'd add a layer of texture to her character, though I hesitate to call it fallibility, it'd have made perfect sense.The author was just a fag who couldn't imagine a high class lady wanting to have sex or kiss, because only slutty girls get horny, that's all.
>>272463501Shizu is an instagram hoe, not a professional model. She has a manager like most paid instagram hoes do, but she's not like, a model-model if that makes sense.
>>272450249you know what, maybe NTR was right all along.maybe there are some men out there that deserves to get their gfs be stolen
>>272470145>Quite obvious what the meaning of shit here was.Come on. People constantly say “99% of the shit I like” andsoforth too; it simply doesn't mean that.>And why did you choseBecause that's the definition I suspected that person of using.>If you simply have a problem with the genre of romcom, which exists outside of demographics of just hetrosexual males, you wouldn't have brought that out.I never claimed to have a problem with that, and now you bring “heterosexual” up out of nowhere too. I have no problem with things that are romantic and comedic.Anon, again, it's how I suspected that person to use the term. What I have a problem with isn't relevant to that. I can't bend how I think that person uses the term which is what I commented on.>Never said, you're simply criticising media, unfairly.I firstly didn't criticize any media in that post, and secondly, again 4chan is an anonymous image board. You have no way of knowing what things I criticize on 4chan.
>>272449514alright picked the fuck up
>>272447688>>272448057>>272448901It seems like a power move. She knew the current girl was bad for him, so she used her stacy powers to set things right.>>272449514Oh nevermind ...
>>272449514Wait what?
>>272470692>4chan is an anonymous image board. You have no way of knowing what things I criticize on 4chan.Don't you realise you're doing the exact same thing? >it's how I suspected that person to use the term. And I never claimed anything beyond you having a bias against romcom targeted towards hetrosexual males. You're in your right for not liking them for not delivering on romance or comedy, but you're tirade on "loser male" directs it away from the genre of the specific work
>>272471509Notice how you turn “lonely loser male” into “heterosexual male”, ejecting the “lonely loser” part and inserting the “heterosexual” part.
>>272470627I've been saying that since forever. I've hated ntr since the "you know, it really hurts to have your hymen torn" page but so many of these mcs are so aggravating that I wish there was a genre of ntr purely for women getting stolen by men who are just honest to god good people. Masculine, heroic, kind but serious men who give the mc a chance and then woo away the girl when he fucks it all up.
>>272472166netorithough you need to be discerning, since some netori stories feature a shithead protagonist. but the default is that netori protagonists are usually taking girls away from stupid retards because they genuinely want them or because her SO is an abusive degenerate.it's basically NTR where the bull is the protagonist and the cuck is the antagonist, and the story is told entirely from the bull's perspective.
>>272472166>>272472263>NetoriYeah basically. An example you might like is>I was Reincarnated as the Scumbag from a NTR Manga, But the Heroine is Coming on to Me
>>272448057>Tomboy ntrPicked up
>>272472078Now you're just grasping at straws. I'm using hetrosexual man as a stand in for shonen or seinen romcoms, but fine, have it your way, "lonely, loser male" it is. Have fun being incredibly arbitrary with it. But everything else remains the exact same - you're still pretending as if the short comings of an entire genre is due to targeting a specific demography. As if everything else is not filled with wish fulfilment.
>>272472663Nope, I again never said all those things and your entire argument is based on a very creative interpretation of my post you first had to misquote and insert the word “bad” into because you realized an actual quote wouldn't serve your point, and the one phrase you could actually quote, “lonely loser male” you turned into “heterosexual male”, ejecting the two important parts, keeping what wasn't important and then inserting some random new nonsense to make your point.It's pretty clear you're extremely focused on the “male” part rather than the “lonely loser” part which his obviously the important one as it's that that which leads to:>very little romance>no comedyWhich was what my point was originally was about.
>>272472880Feel free anytime to point out where I have misquoted you. You stated a certain type of romcom as bad for the reason of being wish fulfilment for loser lonely men rather than genre cliche that exists outside of that demography. As for what constitutes said demography, you can, as I said, arbitrarily pick anything which happens to fit the narrative.
>>272472166That doesn't make sense though. Protagonists in these sorts of stories are usually portrayed as kind, noble and serious, and to a certain extent, they are. Most authors just don't realize that kind and serious men are exactly the type of guys who would despise people being manipulative and scheming like the girls in this one, to the point of anger. They are simply too afraid of taking the story to its natural conclusions because it would make the girls seem downright terrible, which is why they add a lot of contrivances to make them seem sympathetic without addressing the original problem.