Manga Library Z is closing down soonhttps://closing.mangaz.comit was the website that host old manga that didn't have digital version and sell them
> but in recent years (card companies, etc.) settlement In terms of service, it has become more difficult to respond.Of course
>Manga Library Z I don't care. I thought all libraries are dead in 2024.
>>272826102Rip
>>272826164stop noticing
>>272826205Many are struggling with funding, because modern first world countries are trying to unfinance themselves, so there are plenty that have closed down.But as for the others, they are still pretty popular, though they are trying to reinvent themselves into new roles (in simple terms: community centers).
The Ken Akamatsu site?
>>272826102I know a lot of manga there that aren't available anywhere else. Are they gonna be lost media now?>>272826432Yes, that site. I wonder if him entering politics had something to do with it.
>anons aren't panickingThis is actually a huge deal. There are a ton of manga there that are not available anywhere else. Mostly old stuff too. Part of the site's raison d'etre was to allow reading of manga that are not available on other sites and are long out of print. Unless a replacement service pops up, they get bought out, or someone becomes a hero and backs up everything, this is gonna result in a lot of old manga becoming lost media. This is actually really bad news and anons here don't seem to understand just how bad this this.
>>272826578If me panicking had a positive effect on the world, the world would look very differently today.I've got no panic left for this.
>>272826578I'll be sending them my thoughts and prayers.
>>272826578Why not make them available on other sites? Fuck store exclusives.
>>272826645If it's an official library, then it's an issue of licenses.
>>272826645Licensing issues almost certainly. Several of their manga actually had to be removed due to rights expiring or other issues.
>>272826102Manga Library Z closing down is evidence that Ken Akamatsu is just a larper and was never serious about saving manga
>>272826669can archive.org host those manga later on?It is exactly the thing that website is made for
>>272826750They could in theory, but I'm not sure if they're interested. Besides, the IA has its own set of legal issues and I don't know how long they can survive.
>>272826669That sounds like bullshit to justify taking hostages. The rights to manga solely lie in the hands of the authors. If they license something exclusively to one store than that's the problem for it not being available elsewhere.
>>272826750Stop turning archive.org into a warez site.
>>272826164>card companiesEvery single time.
>Last week, we received a notice from a payment agency with which we have a franchisee contract to cancel the contract at the end of October due to handling of adult content.Holy fuck, Akamatsu is useless. What happened to their discussion with VISA a few months ago?
>>272826805(((())))
>>272826886It's mastercard and visa doing this shit, anon. Any hentai that even has so much as a school uniform or girl looks young is considered illegal to them.
>>272826697>>272826886Wasn't he a complete newcomer to politics though?You should never have faith in the promises of politicians, but you can trust outsiders to not understand how the government machine works.
>>272826910Every ebook store in Japan sells eromanga. Are they really going to pick them off one after the other?
>>272826925Yes, that is exactly what they are currently doing.Many sites try to skirt around it by doing the pachinko thing and using website points that you buy instead of directly purchasing the material. That will only work for so long though.
>>272826910Iirc, VISA denied being the ones to do it. I remember hearing that it was the companies that made the cards themselves or something, but it’s been a while, I don’t remember what was all said.
>>272826578The world is going down the shitter. People are used to it. Panicking doesn't do anything and you would have to panick constantly given everything is going to shit.
>>272826959That seems unlikely since they are the payment processors. I don't understand how card manufacturers would even begin to have the ability to prevent payments over the payment processor itself.
>>272826800>Stop archiving stuff on an internet archiveNyo
>>272826941Is there a decent porn currency?I don't think it would be wise trying to use yuan for porn related things.But what about euros?Don't say crypto.
>>272826959I can purchase stuff in DMM with VISA but not with MasterCard so they aren't identical in their rules.It's something likeJCB > American Express > VISA > MastercardBut good luck getting a JCB card in America or Europe.
>>272826986He's saying that you are endangering a valuable service by loading it up with stuff that they are legally not allowed to hold.
>>272826989>Don't say crypto.Sorry but it's the truth
>>272826984>>272826995For what it’s worth, I apparently screenshot this statement from probably Twitter
>>272826986In the end they'll just remove the privileges of the archive or shut it down for good.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hachette_v._Internet_Archive
>>272827015Anon, that just means Visas wants to make sure that all of these services like Stripe, Square, etc. are following their rules. At the end of the day, it's visa enforcing it if you are using a visa card directly and no other payment service.
>>272826989Yen obviously. But the currency is irrelevant when you can't make payments. In Japan you have a lot of alternatives to VISA/MC but from overseas we're very limited.
>>272827046Sorry, I found the tweet. It really sounds like VISA is saying they weren’t the ones who made the decision, and they never asked to restrict anything. Maybe they were just lying, or something’s up.https://x.com/yamadataro43/status/1824684481296601172
>>272827081All I know, is that stateside visa and mastercard cracked down hard on porn because of the pornhub shitstorm. Parents found out their 16 year old daughters were uploading shit to porn hub, plus some leaks because high schoolers are high schoolers, so parents lost their shit.Naturally, they also smelled the opportunity for money from payment processors allowing people to pay for that content.In the end, mastercard and visa are avoiding liability and probably have a blanket stance on it. Maybe for japs they will try to remove these restrictions for cultural reasons for japanese issued cards. However, don't expect such a thing to apply to any card issued in the west.
>>272826578Before manga, could we have meat and bread?
>>272826102This is a real shame. The entire point was to host manga that were basically inaccessible.There are a lot of great pulpy action/sci-fi series on that site that were otherwise in the void. Akumatsu must be running into financial troubles, himself.
>>272826750Archive.org is already in a rough spot regarding hosting books, lets not get them in trouble hosting manga with dubious licensing status.
>>272826697The site is over 10 years old. It isn't like he started it up last year and now its dead.
>>272827167Obesity rates have never been higher. If anything we could replace some of your meat and bread with more manga and you'd be better off.
>>272826578>This is actually a huge deal.Again? Nothing has changed. The digital era was always>you can download everything officially!>NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR REGION>sorry your license is expired
>ripper doesn't work>images are scrambled>site is shutting downMan, I just want to back up a few books.
>>272826913In my opinion, Ken Akamatsu does not belong in the LDP because he is too liberal, which is why he failed to become friends with faction leaders like Taro Aso, whose son, Iwao Aso, founded Niconico. This makes him a useless politician since he is unable to gather any votes for bills to fight censorship.
>>272826578if /a/ where not full of newfaggots and trannies and women we would do what /mlp/ does and preserve it asap.
>>272827211>>272826750>>272826669>>272826645just throw it on catbox.moe you retards
>>272827391You didn't even know about this site existence and can't name a single rare manga not available anywhere else you fucking larper.
>>272827368And you didn't even know permanent licenses COULD expire.
>>272827423>you cant name rare manga!correct, I normally save rare games and shit you find on /jp/. unless you remember raiding qb hunting with /a/ please fuck off and dont reply to me again.
>>272827444>permanent licenses>expire???I don't understand.
>>272827459>buy software>software requires access to internet to verify your license>a few years later, company behind software decides that your edition is no longer supported and shuts down the license verification on their endYou technically still have your license, but it's no longer good for anything.Would you like to upgrade to the new edition?
>>272827450It's absolutely irrelevant site no one cares about. Like really. Archiving things no one cares about is pointless.
>>272827496>the history of my hobby is irrelevant shit no one cares aboutlazy cuck.
>>272827496anon,that's still part of the history no matter how bad it wasthat how some people get to discover something they never knew before
>>272826886What the fuck was the discussion with VISA gonna do? They immediately denied it and said there was no problem, the ACLU's case has a better chance, god help us.
>>272827406baka anon
>>272826925That's clearly the plan.>>272826959VISA lied.
>>272827476Is this how Adobe got the manga industry by the balls? As far as I know, if you work digitally, you're still required to use PSD format by the publisher so they could send your manga to the printers.
>>272827564if its on catbox its there forever.
>>272827518Yes. If you want to archive something for sake of history do it yourself. But don't try to larp or blame others for not doing the same. Otherwise it means you're doing this for internet good boy points without sincere interest. So fuck off.
>>272826578People like searching for lost media though.
>>272827595>DONT TRY TO BLAMEI will blame you, you are letting your history be destroyed. theres no situation where this isnt your fault.
>>272826986There are more suitable ways to engage in piracy, something I'm in favor of, but the Internet Archive is better left to recording the internet in general and trying to stay afloat legally, because they are becoming extremely important in the 2020s.Hosting licensed books was really foolish of them and not worth fighting for, that should be left to a proper literary piracy site.
>>272827595Not him, but I try to save what I can of some of my interests, and I'll gladly share some when the subject comes up, but I don't have infinite funds, nor extensive technical knowhow.
>>272827615>your historyYou're not japanese, /jp/faggot.
>>272827617Especially since books are generally so lightweight, so it's easy to create clones.
>>272827631Good attitude.
>>272827634>this isnt MY hobby okay, I'm just here because I'm boredokay tsundere doodbro>>>/reddit/
>>272827679Kill yourself.
>>272827635Yes, text is extremely compact stuff, it's like sharing a ROM for an old SNES or Genesis game, you can send such files in the mail or with messaging apps like Discord in a snap.I think one of the big hurdles is that we need to teach more of Gen Z how to use a computer, that they can do so much more than a phone and why that's good.When I see zoomers with genuine and serious interest in learning and using things like these, I always try to encourage it. We'll never get all of them, their computer literacy on average is low, but a computer is unquestionably valuable for anyone who likes to create things like art, music, games, etc.>>272827634Fuck you, faggot, if you don't care about the history and preservation of your own hobbies, you should get raped by a wild pack of tanukis.
>>272827684I accept your concession
>site is shitting itself alreadyI really hope it's because someone decided to scrape it wholesale and not because it's hosted on shitty servers that can't handle moderate load from the people rushing to check it out now that the news is out.
>>272826578>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEThere
I see the aie's have it.
>>272827735Illegally pirating manga isn't preservation of your own hobbies. You have no highground to tell anyone what to do. If you're oldfag who watched 1000+ anime and read 1000+ manga you should pay for them because this is how japs show the support for their hobbies. Downloading anime from nyaa means you have zero respect to your hobby and the creators of your hobby.
>>272827766>https://desuarchive.org/a/search/filename/mad_oka1/Kill yourself.
>>272827828Are you being obtuse on purpose?
>>272826578>Mostly old stuff too.Yawn. Name 5 manga worth reading that are more than 20 years old.
>>272827839What manga doesn't have digital distribution?
>>272827873Most of the ones made before digital distribution was mainstream. Are you genuinely stupid?
>>272827873Almost everything made before the late 2010s. Japs absolutely suck ass at digitization of old catalogs. Almost anything from companies that went bankrupt or closed down manga services, otherwise.
>>272827839>out of printBuy it on auctions. Are all manga and anime you pirated out of print? Did you support Manga Library Z with raw $?
>>272827927>Buy it on auctions.>it doesn't matter if availability breaks down if you can just camp out on auction sites for months or years in the hopes that there's a saleWhat kind of retarded argument is that?>Are all manga and anime you pirated out of print?Not the ones I bought, no.Also, that's an ad hominem.Just fuck off.
>>272826102Akamatsu is such a useless faggot holy shit
>>272826578Aren't there people who can rip from even bookwalkerSomeone help with this z libraryI like reading manga in japanese
>>272827196>There are a lot of great pulpy action/sci-fi series on that site that were otherwise in the void.Which one is your favorite
>>272827927How are auctions useful for 'supporting the hobby'?All that does is support some scalper.
>>272827844>>272827766Pretty based posts honestly for an image that you only started posting in 2024
>>272827973>Not the ones I bought, no.You should pay for all others too. Because of you studios and mangaka are poor. You don't respect your hobby. Fact. Unlike japs who buy overpriced BD and toilet paper.
>>272827423I knew about it but I didn't (and still don't) have the language skills to read most of its archiveI'm sad about this but am not /g/ enough to help
>>272828028You are really going all in on this diversionary tactic, aren't you?
>>272828019The scalper is otaku legend who bought something decades ago. He's the pillar of industry. You must pay respects. Without people like him your hobby wouldn't even exist.
>>272827975>Said by the useless faggot who constantly voted for his own replacement.Kek
>>272828003https://www.mangaz.com/book/detail/143701>猟姫ナジャEnjoyed this one recently.
>>272827912You have publishers dedicated to releasing older series digitally.
>>272827828Fuck off, zoomer moralfag, corporations aren't preserving shit, the only people who can be trusted to do it is the true enthusiasts, and I don't give a fuck about what courts or the law says.
>>272827873Thousands and thousands? More, now that a site like this is going down, which SPECIALIZED in distributing series which were no longer being published anywhere else.The bulk of an author's payout is merchandising, not book sales or blu-ray sales.
>>272828098How is that dependent on MangaZ? It's available in other places as well. Yamamoto Atsuji is a household name.
>>272828134That only works for works that they have the rights to and decent copies of.Neither is a given.
>>272828192>The bulk of an author's payout is merchandising, not book sales or blu-ray sales.That's just nonsense when most of them don't have merchandise.Why is there a need for a site that distributes things exclusively? Wouldn't it be better if they are available on all stores so a single one going up or down won't matter as much?
>>272828195I just posted one I liked recently, I didn't promise exclusivity. The MangaZ site is unnavigable on my end so I can't search it to find an example of a series that is only on its platform. That was just a series I had open in another tab at the time I saw this thread.
>>272828230>Why is there a need for a site that distributes things exclusively? Wouldn't it be better if they are available on all stores so a single one going up or down won't matter as much?While I agree with that idea, it's not something that we can just enforce from our end, unfortunately.I might even buy a subscription to such a service if there weren't dozens of different providers, each with their own catalogues.
>>272828230>Why is there a need for a site that distributes things exclusivelyThis reminds that Nagai Go's manga is available digitally only on EBJ. One of the weirdest exclusivity deals I've seen.
>>272828199So what do you want to do if there are no available copies?Unclear rights situation doesn't seem like a common thing for manga.
>>272828268I just pray to Jesus that He make things right.
>>272828230Ideally everything would be available everywhere, practically most things are far less decentralized because people are lazy.
>>272828138>true enthusiasts>Nyaa usersZoomer delusion.
>>272828249Almost all manga is available across the major Japanese ebook platforms, exclusive releases are fairly rare.You may get different volumes available as part of subscriptions like Kindle Unlimited, Bookwalker or Bookpass and they tend to vary each month but you can buy the titles regardless of that.
>>272827857DragonballNarutoBleachOne PieceDoraemon
Since this is japanese only site and the rare manga is untranslated anyway I'm 99% sure it exist on other japanese/chinese pirate sites. Or Perfect Dark if it's still functioning. Highly doubt any JSLs here lurks japanese internet deep as native users after all.
>>272828320It's the best option today.
>>272827444Oh boy do I love the complete commercialization of the internet!
>>272828474If you want to get manga in good quality you buy it and rip it yourself. The rips on nyaa are complete shit, straight from other pirate sites and not worth preserving.
>>272827110Teenagers ruin everything for everybody yet again.
>>272828365>manga for 14 year oldsnty
>>272827857BerserkJoJoGTOHellsingFist Of The North StarAzumanga DaiohYotsubatoMad Bull 34BastardGunsmith CatsMy mind is kinda blank at the moment because I didn't sleep last night.
>>272826102That fucking sucks. There was a lot of old manga that was free to read on the website, and iirc you could actually download the stuff if you paid.I mostly just remember flipping through Coconut Ave, another manga created by the same author of The Kabocha Wine. It's on Bookwalker now too, but that's got its own issues.
Words from Akamatsu himself is outhttps://x.com/KenAkamatsu/status/1853771600828809490
>>272827828I don't think that os quite the case. If someone buys, scans, and uploads a rare out of print manga, they just shared it with a lot of people who also wanted to read it.>>272827927Also to that point, sometimes stuff being out of print means stuff like in your pic. The same thing happens in the video game industry. It has got so bad with scalping and accessibility that even Japan has got impacted and are now raising their prices in some stores. I still think its preferable to actually own the item, but there is going to be a point were the item breaks, falls apart, stops working, etc. and eventually all copies will. And if someone doesn't preserve it (because we know companies actually don't do that themselves sometimes, which is also shocking to realize) that it'll be gone to time (including us too). Time waits for no man or manga or anime.
>>272830107Payment processors deciding what is allowable and what is verboten as always.
>>272830156The people who cry the loudest about preservation never scanned or ripped a manga themselves. In many cases they never even paid for manga in their lives. They're also rather ignorant about what's already available digital commercially.People actually providing rare content are a tiny minority.
>>272830107What are the chances they had financial problems and got cut off for that reason?
>>272826102why don't japs preserve their work better?
>>272830107Even JCB? The price of trying to join the "global" community. Shame, seems like Japan is getting primed for a huge cultural raping.
>>272830282Why would a payment processor cut them off for that? Unless they were somehow defrauding payments.No, most likely they got cut off because some of the material contained loli depictions. As he's being cagey with the wording but implies they were asked to remove certain works and refused. Especially when older manga was a lot looser with nudity.
>>272830461It took until late 2010s for nips to finally stop coping and admit that digital is here to stay. It's all kind of fucked. Probably will take another decade or two for them to finally get off their asses and redo those early low quality ebooks.
>>272830477Why are they legally allowed to do this anyway?
>>272830693Because every company has the right to refuse service, even though they form a global monopoly...Even crypto isn't safe, as they can just ban the exchanges and no one can convert from normal cash to crypto.It's totally fucked.
>>272830693They process the payments and decide what payments they are willing to process. They get away with it because it's a cartel without real market competition.Now, they decided to start doing it because US courts found that payment processors can be held liable for any payment they process thanks to the porn hub thing.Now, while the stance of the criminal courts in the US is that loli isn't CP, civil court can be a much bigger grey area. So payment processors don't want to deal with anything that can be argued in a lawsuit is CP that they helped to facilitate the distribution of, which is why even schoolgirls get cracked down on now.
Who cares, everything on the internet is archived.
>>272826102This is a good thing.Wait, hear me out.If you read the notices carefully, the most important part is that they say they will continue looking for alternative ways to publish their library, possibly nonprofit or crowdfunded.Secondarily, the listed reason why the credit card companies cancelled them is "handling of adult materials". Surely they had the option of just removing porn from their library, but they didn't choose that route. Why? Maybe to cause outrage and get more people to protest to the credit card companies and hopefully get some rules relaxed, which would end up helping DLsite and others if successful.
>>272830238That shit should really violate the Neutrality Act, because they're effectively trying to create policy in another nation, going past their laws and government.
>>272831092Japan could just use native payment processors instead of selling out their nation and independence. It's on Japan to protect themselves.
>>272831139maybe not having an international store puts them into the red and that's why they're shutting down.
>>272830252Do you think that's a reason to denounce everyone who promotes preservation?
>>272831139Akamatsu said that JCB turned them down too.
>>272831067>Maybe to cause outrageMangaZ was a relatively small site that just existed, you really think the news can gain enough traction?
>>272831177Then the japanese themselves don't give a fuck about old manga and it is what it is. If you want to sell to the international market then you are going into an area where a bunch of people, now in positions of influence, fucking hate anime for whatever reason.>>272831256He said the payment processor wouldn't allow JCB cards either. It was all just the payment processor and he said they refused to switch to a different one because they want to protest this behavior in general.
>>272686633Anon are you a prophet??? If you're here, consider sharing the script please. We need to save what we can before the Library of Alexandria burns down.Buying and saving PDFs is good too, but there are probably too few of us to buy everything.
>>272831288Outrage is independent of actual importance.It's literally about blowing things out of proportion.>one Y guy did X>ALL Y GUYS ARE LITERAL MONSTERS!!>a small website was taken down>they are censoring the internet, and YOU need to protect yourself, right now!
>>272831288Consider the following: Ken Akamatsu is a politician.
>>272831288People on Twitter are absolutely pissed and it's been in the trends all day, but I don't know if there are enough of them.The weird thing is that JCB apparently also denied service to the website, if it didn't then it would've probably continued to operate, like DLsite or Melonbooks did.
>>272830559What did they offer that's worse than other sites? You can still have loli nudity in manga. Even loli eromanga is available in a lot of stores.
>>272831433>>272830559i think its more of an attack on Akamatsu himself, JCB is also just another shit credit card company so i'm not surprised they did it too
>>272831519Older manga is far less censored and they probably didn't sell it as "pornographic" material because it wasn't. However, by today's standards naked lolis are always pornographic.
>>272827248Check again.
>>272826910Why doesn't Japan pass a law prohibiting payment processors from doing this? Several states in the US have started passing laws like that in relation to denying service for political reasons. Sure, they can try and ignore it but it's at least a start and will force them to try and defend what they're doing in court.
>>272827013I am not calling the wolves by eating the chickens you daft woman.
>>272831381Anon, you can buy these books on Kindle. Jコミックテラス is the name of the publisher and they're also free to read for Kindle Unlimited subscribers.
>>272830693To governments, web payments basically don't exist. All they care about is direct bank business. Web payments are a free-for-all until new laws get written, and the status quo is "good enough" that no lawmakers want to go through all that trouble just to protect a few porn sites.
>>272826578I'd seed a torrent. But like you said, I'm not in the loop.
>>272831433They used a middleman that provided all credit card services including JCB and presumably Visa/Mastercard/whatever else, and that middleman cancelled them.
>>272826925Sounds like Japan could use a domestic electronic banking company.
>>272831619Well, as you said, states have started basically working around the court ruling on liability to get working how it was before. Hopefully it's just a matter of time before it resolves itself but yes Japan could do the same if they grew some balls.
And people wonder why most Japanese boys have physical porn collections, as opposed to digital ones.
>>272831576>Older manga is far less censoredI haven't really noticed that. Manga isn't subject to that much censorship. At most you may have to wait for the volume version for certain magazines or web manga.
>>272831781That's a child sex slave though. There is no reason to censor what was created for the purpose of being fucked.
>>272831410Only barely.
>>272831781Boy or girl?
>>272831759Digital is fine if what you have is the actual files, no wrapper or DRM.
>>272831870In the future everything will be cloud-based. Maximum control
>>272831781Censorship for manga can vary a lot depending on where it's published.
>>272831636Anon will never be a woman, but that's besides the point, InternetArchive is too big and visible by itself, so it doesn't even make sense to host conspicuous pirated content on there, and it's just better if it's hosted elsewhere, since online piracy is generally an eternal game of whackamole.InternetArchive undeniable better serves a completely different purpose which is important in its own right, and it should insulate itself from the needless risks of the whackamole game.I would much rather seed torrents of movies, books, and romsets on /r/ than endanger InternetArchive over your abject laziness, there's much more at stake here.
>>272831893Don't fall for the cloud meme, learn to rip from the cloud. You think I'm gonna stop collecting or sharing because of techbro pipedreams already teetering on the edge of oblivion might be promoted more heavily in the future?
>>272832020It's possible that series in Jump or whatever face greater scrutiny but the selection in ebook stores isn't affected by that and other publishers seem to do fine without it.
>>272831781Additional censorship of digitally released older manga is a real thing. I remember getting e-book of Sex Machine only to find out that it was completely ruined by low quality lightsabers. It's not even porn, mind you.
>>272827596And if it's lost because no one cared enough to back it up?
>>272832290That's how media get lost.What other way is there?>all of the tens of thousands of storage devices spread out across Japan and the rest of the world, simultaneously broke, by a freak coincidence
>>272827390>too liberal for liberal partyi know the party names are meaningless nowadays but that's funny
>>272832138Some manga will also get more censored over time in later volumes, or an artist will say he's been told to make changes.
>>272832453Not to mention that the US politics have turned the term on its head from its original meaning, the question of what exactly you are talking about when using an adjective is always important.
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>>272831381It's quite awful actually, but it gets the job done.https://rentry.co/mangaz_ripper
>>272826578There is too much media in the world anyways
>>272833093Why do you think that?
>>272826578>All of those non-repliesSo is anyone HERE planning to makes any backups?
>>272833128please don't post my picture
>>272833182I'll be productive next year.I know I said the same thing last year.And the year before that.And the year before that.And the year before that.And perhaps a few more times.BUT.This time I mean it.
>>272833128kill yourself wojak spamming xitter immigrant
>>272833182I can't read Japanese.
>>272833002You're right, it is absolutely awful.
>>272833277stop posting about shit nobody cares about lost media redditor
>>272833002Thanks! That it gets the job done is the most important part of it, usability can always be refactored.
>>272833093Those are not "media" but the impronts.Basically thd source.
>>272833450kill yourself wojak spamming xitter immigrant
>>272826750Start hosting torrents you retards
>>272833450This is the anime & manga board. Kill yourself tourist.
>>272831870If my monitor can get it, my hard drive can get it, one way or another.
>>272833182I will probably rip or buy some of the yuri stuff, but I don't have unlimited time or money to save everything.Some of it is thankfully still available on Kindle (but in worse quality probably), but not everything.
>>272833182Also I recently lost my fairly sizable Fuz archive to a hard drive loss, not all of which can be re-downloaded, so I'm pretty depressed about archival at the moment. I don't exactly have enough space, cash, and discipline for a NAS with redundancies and whatnot.
>>272834999You could have made a torrent, people will archive it for you for free
>>272835167There actually is one and I even have its contents backed up and seeding, but it doesn't cover everything either. I had more, some magazines will be missing, and stuff I saved via a loophole from older Fuz as well (I'm still pissed I made my script before they created that loophole and only learned about it when they were switching over to the new Fuz, so I only had a few hours and couldn't just rip their whole database).There is still a chance I'll get some of that data back (the controller is fried but the memory chips are still mostly intact), but I'm not placing too much hope on it.
>>272835167But also torrents aren't super reliable either, especially manga torrents tend to die fairly quickly, but even many of the anime torrents die within a few years. Some of the things I've translated are only really seeded from my own pseudo-seedbox (HDD connected to a router that runs qBittorrent).
>>272833182If i had enough space to store it...
>>272835474That loophole was known for a while but everyone just ripped what they were interested in instead of making a full archive.But all magazines are archived in at least two places, and originals should be viewable with enough daily charges.
>>272832472You also have the opposite with manga getting more daring and explicit as the series goes on.
>>272828411Usenet technically still exists. But it's impenetrable to any but elder wizards.
>>272835717>But all magazines are archived in at least two placesThere's an archive for Hanaoto or Weekly Manga Times?
>>272835652I think I remember when secretclubs predecessor died, anons would claim parts of the database by letters so they could each do their part.Though, IIRC, that felt flat when somebody managed to download everything on his own.
>>272835769ah, those, sorry
>>272835786I just sort of like having everything myself even if others also archived it. the problem is that i already do that for a bunch of stuff that i use and i don't have spare space for stuff i might not look into. I might try to get some more storage hopefully it will still be up until then
>>272831576It's sad that credit card companies sexualize children like that. Glad I never buy things.
>>272830760Then how the fuck is 4chan doing it after being blacklisted again?
>>272836023It's now a honeypot, and thus has protected status.
>>272831067Economics isn't a democracy. A single old white man somewhere made this decision and he cannot be reached by anyone.
>>272826578Dekinai zoomers couldn't care less about raws. Weebs have fallen, billions must die.
>>272831645I pay taxes on amazon orders, so you're wrong and dumb.
>>272836152>I pay taxes on amazon orders,But amazon pays no taxes.
>>272836152Let me rephrase: the government doesn't protect your right to exchange money for legal goods and services freely over the internet as it does in real life.
>>272836242Since the law is a whore, I suppose it never will.
>>272826102fuck akamatsu, liberally no one has ever given two fucks about his horrid website
>>272835769I was saving one of the Manga Times since it was included in the subscription, but even I wasn't saving the other ones. They're a bit too Japanese old man audience for me, and I'm still your average moefag.
>>272835717It may have been, but nobody told me, I don't hang out in Scantasia and I was just using my own script. I checked for its existence when I was writing the script, it didn't exist yet, and I never thought they'd actually get so lazy later. I don't blame anyone but myself obviously, but still, a goddamn shame.
>>272836023Stripe and Crypto.
>>272831638>Jコミックテラス is the name of the publisher and they're also free to read for Kindle Unlimited subscribersHuh fuck, I have that. Kind of late to learn about this.
>>272835724That's the better kind of change, although it sometimes means wishing it could have started sooner when you know some things will never happen again to be uncensored.
>>272826986Irresponsible retard
>>272837237They're not gonna stop attacking libraries. Eat the tomatoes.
>>272827391>tfw that one torrent of explicit /mlp/ stuffGotta hand it to horsefuckers, they're dedicated.
>>272837368Beautiful dreams can never die.
Sign, why is it fell like the internet becomes smaller and smaller by the minutes?
>>272830107>All credit cards including JCB, were suddenly unavailable, and all other payment methods (except BitCash) were also unusable.>including JCBThis country is cooked as fuck.Looks like Shitcoin is the last great option.
>>272837989Hasn't the process slowed down though?There are not enough websites left for them to be dying at the same pace as they used to.
>>272833450I hope your shitjak site and shitjak wiki dies and no traces are found, since you just love making things lost.
>>272830477Rape?
>>272837363Once a politician comes forward about copyright corruption and reform, consider your rat-faced company fucked.
>>272836023Ask that faggot Null what's good.
Did >>272827839 get deleted for the first word, or was it collateral damage from a generally shitposting anon?But I thought that post was from the same anon who also made >>272827735.But I was of the impression that word was still an acceptable form of address for anons of undefined color, same as faggot.
>>272827390How’s Taro Yamada doing?
>>272838441That was me, no idea why it got deleted.
>>272826578Ignoring the NPCs, is it possible to do something about this? I dunno, make a new thread for coordinating downloads or something.
>>272838548Like I said, it's a grandfathered form of address on 4chan, like faggot.No one actually thinks you are referring to homosexuality when you call somebody on /a/ a newfag or an oldfag.
>>272826578What can I do to help? Isn't it a bit late since they suspended their e-book distribution today?
>>272834921Is your picrel available on kindle, or is that gonna be part of the yuri rips?
>>272838444I think he's still pushing that petition to annex Article 175.
>>272838678>What can I do to help?Panic!Scream!Despair!
>>272838989Only its 2001 remake version with re-drawn art, but not the 1987 original. The art in 2001 is does look more appealing to the modern eye, but there is still a lot of charm in the 80s manga style.https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0096I6YD4>>272838678Did they? Damn.
>>272838678Write a script or use >>272833002 's script to save as much as you can and then share it via a cloud drive or a torrent, although that particular script isn't very well-suited to save a lot of stuff at once.I'll try writing a script as well - maybe modifying that one, maybe descrambling manually to avoid having to wait for page loads - but I frankly don't have enough space as I've sent out my bigger drive to the data recovery guys to store the recovered data into.
Probably makes sense to subscribe to premium if using that script, since premium lets you skip ads and it's just 330 yen - if that's still available of course.
>>272839811Wouldn't you need to *pay* for that?
>>27283867>Isn't it a bit late since they suspended their e-book distribution today?Where did you read this? The site will be shutting down in 26/11 while the notice is being done today.>>272839524>Did they? Damn.Not till 26/11.>>272839717I think the correct type of action in this situation is cataloguing all manga entries and share the burden with someone else regarding storage.>>272839811I don't remember having adds while I read Love Hina.
>>272839874Sorry, I meant to reply to this anon >>272838678
>>272839524>Remake available elsewhereI see, thanks. Sucks that the original isn't available as well, because as you said, part of its charm is in its scratchy 80s appearance.
>>272839717Thanks.Looks like there are 6673 works on the site, so we need to download about 333 a day to get it all.>>272833002I can probably write a selenium script to automate the manual parts of this script. Probably. It'd still be a pretty clunky solution, and maybe there are limitations I'm not aware of (I've never tried to open a "bookmark" like that with selenium). Unfortunately, I don't have time right now. Hopefully tomorrow.This is selenium, if anyone else wants to give it a go:https://www.selenium.dev/
>>272831870Manga Library Z sold pdf. How many did you buy?
>>272840817Not that anon, but not much, simply because the catalogue is mostly really old stuff that I'm not terribly interested in. Western weebs generally aren't into that stuff.
>>272839874Sadly they only accept bitcash now, so purchases are effectively gone for good for us gaijins.
>>272841057Is Bitcash incompatible with foreign bank accounts?
>>272841169Yes, the only way is to buy overpriced point cards from middlemen, if that even works. Also Alipay is apparently supported by Bitcash, for those who might have it.
>>272826164Private companies are free to refuse business to whomever they want.
>>272831291>>272826164epic
>>272841414Which becomes a problem when they are a monopoly (well, in this case a duopoly that acts like a monopoly). They basically own a public utility.
>>272841414When there are a handful of companies controlling the flow of money, then I have problems accepting them as "private".Even if you want to argue that the state should not be allowed to incorporate them because you believe in free markets, I will counter that by pointing out that they have already gained one of the key features of statehood. In other words, they are a state within the state."Free markets" assumes that there is a plurality of agents.
>>272841649>Even if you want to argue that the state should not be allowed to incorporate themNot him but they should, there's nothing being provided by payment processors in terms of actual value. If you look on the back of your dollar bill, it says that the government guarantees that this dollar is legal payment for anything that has a price tag on it. Money by its nature needs to be controlled by a government because they alone have the ability and motivation to make sure literally everyone accepts it.
>>272841414At some point a company gets so big that it's no longer meaningfully private. Private companies have these rights because it's assumed that no single private company would ever be big enough to 1. not have any meaningful competition and 2. be a fundamental part of a person's life. Public services are public partly because it's assumed that some things simply cannot be privatized or are too important to have the right to cut people off. Imagine if private rail companies simply said they're going to deny service to everyone from Alabama?
Can't someone contact Akamatsu and have him just send the data over on the down-low or somethinglike just email a link or some shit
>>272831684Surely they can get some other middleman? Do these middlemen not want business? Are they being paid to deny him? Like, literally what could they lose?
>>272836083zoomer herewhere r u uso'ing
>>272841960Akamatsu basically said that the risk of the same thing happening with the new middleman is just not sustainable for the business. They can just freeze all company income for months. Bitcash alone is also not enough to pay the bills.
>>272842085Does it cost him a ton upfront or a lot of time to look for middlemen? Can't he just contact JCB or whatever directly?
What the fuck do payment processors even processUnironic questionIs it not as simple as bank account A to bank account B beep boop? You could write a fucking script in like 4 lines of code for that
>>272842144>Is it not as simple as bank account A to bank account B beep boop?Even on a technical level, it's not.If it's between different banks, they even keep tally and then have regular, physical exchanges of real money.
>>272842104How many of them do you think there are that aren't bound by Visa/Mastercard rules?The only think he could realistically try is what DLsite is doing by having a completely different site sell points (what I call the reverse pachinko way). And even that is not guaranteed to work forever.
>>272842199Ok sure, but that's just the work of like, one or two accountants with a lawyer looking over their shoulderI keep tally of shit I'm owed or owe and have "regular, physical exchanges of real money" all the time
A few years back I used this site to buy all the Sumire 17/16 Sai manga and get the bonus material translated. I just tried to get the rest of Takeru Nagayoshi's work but they only accept BitCash now. I don't even know what bitcash is, so now I'm fucked! unless someone can help me purchase these volumes...
>>272842230So it's Visa/Mastercard after all and not just the middleman? But even JCB is doing it>DLsiteDoesn't DLSite still accept JCB?
>>272842307Bitcash you can only realistically buy if you have jap moneypeople are trying to rip stuff rn I think
>>272842199I highly doubt that they exchange that much physical money in this day and age. The banks hold most of their money in stocks, credits, government bonds and whatnot, they have partnerships and credit lines with other banks, there are middlemen banks to smooth things out too. Physical is kind of a last resort, it's bloody expensive to use. And now many countries are rolling out digital currencies which will reduce the use of cash for intra-bank operations even more. International trade is complicated though so I'm not privy to the details.
>>272842355They are legally required to have cash reserves.
>>272842307You can use SeaGM to purchase Bitcash codes (it's just a virtual money website like webmoney, not to be confused with crypto stuff that has similarly sounding names). There's a commission to do this though, extra 10-20% maybe, and you can only select certain amounts.>>272842325Visa and Mastercard are forcing the middleman to cut ties with the website altogether, because they have the power to do so.>Doesn't DLSite still accept JCB?It does, in fact most of the struck websites still do. So there was probably a way for Akamatsu to use JCB, but maybe Visa and Mastercard really, really dislike what the library's parent company has been doing and put in the extra effort just for this case. Though maybe Japanese politics are also involved somehow, I obviously am just guessing.
FUCK I DIDN'T GET TO SCRAPE MY BOOKMARKS. Is a warning too much to ask for man? Someone please back up the site, I'm away from my machine for a few days.
>>272833182I'm spending my own money on having a manga gradually scanlated, because nobody else is (certainly not the publisher). It's expensive for me, but I do make sure to share it and upload it multiple places to help ensure it's preserved.
For whoever is writing the script, <span id="doc"> contains a base64 string that seems to be the key to descrambling the image, it has many sets of coordinates and whatnot. Doesn't seem terribly to descramble using that.
>>272842344>>272842507Thanks anons.
>>272842574>Someone please back up the siteyou gotta buy the shit before you can scrape it unfortunately
>>272843568Most of the stuff on the site is free, although of course descrambling won't result in a rip as clean as buying the PDFs (assuming they have the same content but unscrambled, and not some compressed shit)
>>272843744I've had pdf from DLsite with better quality than epubs from other stores due to less jpeg artifacts.
>>272843886Those were probably indie authors, they are more likely to use high resolution source files than companies. And much more likely to use PDF than epub as proper epub generation is still somehow a giant pain in the arse, especially image-only epub.
>>272844123No, it was KTC magazines. The image resolutions were the same (1353x1920), the only difference was lack of artifacts.With doujin releases you can also get better quality in pdf than the single images in at least in some cases.
ATTENTION: I have written a python script to automate downloading manga using the script here:>>272833002You can download it here:https://files.catbox.moe/mwc9w8.zipIt requires selenium to run. Currently, it's written for Firefox, but it should be straightforward to make it use chromium (I think). You will anyway need to edit the script slightly to work on your machine. It relies on some idiosyncrasies of the javascript that other anon posted.Usage: 0. Install dependencies. Python. Selenium.1. edit the script to point to where the javascript downloads images on your computer.2. Change the webdriver to chrome if you don't have firefox.3. Add a list of the URLs to all the manga you want to download.4. Simply run the python script and watch it go! (It should be possible to run it without spawning a window by using headless mode, but I haven't tested). It takes a while at the start because it has to load everything on the page (including numerous ads).We need to download about 330 works per day. Assuming each work is 200 pages, one page a second is fine. Thus, it should be possible for one person running a script like this to do it all by themselves.Right now, the script is serviceable but it lacks some features that would be nice to have to make it more reliable and practical.- Way to detect duplicate images due to downloading before the next image has loaded. Revert and redownload. May not be a problem in practice, I was able to download a 200+ page manga without issues.- Way to detect an ad being shown. Failure to do so also results in duplicate images, but is not as severe as it doesn't result in an image being skipped.- Way to automatically get a list of all manga and go through that list (list is here https://www.mangaz.com/title/index?category=&query=&sort=&search=input ). This way, the user wouldn't have to manually enter URLs.Feel free to edit the script to fix these issues.
>>272840480How many of those are actually exclusive? Don't waste resources ripping something that can be easily gotten elsewhere.
>>272844501Is it faster to download automatically or check for other sources manually?
>>272844373The script writes what you've downloaded to log.cvs in the same directory as the script.You can use this to communicate what you have downloaded to other anons.Right now, I have downloaded:https://vw.mangaz.com/virgo/view/200681/https://vw.mangaz.com/virgo/view/42471Working on downloading:https://vw.mangaz.com/virgo/view/199021/which is big (4 volumes in one).Each page is about 1MB. Assuming about 200 pages per work, the entire thing will be 1320.0 GB or 1.3 TB. These estimates are probably not terribly accurate, but 10 TB of storage might be enough since that's an order of magnitude above the estimate.Unfortunately, I cannot run the script 24/7 since I need to bring my laptop to the office and it'd probably be a bad career move to download porn on the company network. So I might need help.>>272844501I don't know. I expect it'll be easier for me to just download everything once I've made a separate script to automatically get the URLs to all the manga, but if someone could provide a list of things that are available elsewhere, I can use that to save some time.>>272844573This
>>272844617>>272844373how much storage space do I need? Make new threads once this one dies to alert people to this, great work though anon and godspeed
>>27284501410 TB is probably enough (assuming 200 pages per work on average, 1MB per page.)That's a lot of assumptions, though.
>>272845157that's way more than I havewish I had a job...wish I had a real degree...
>>272827873kumeta's early works (from hockey club-kaizo) don't even have digital ebooks!Makuhari from jump infamously doesn't have an ebook version
>>272845157I think most manga there don't have not even more than 5 volumes on theirs entries. Love Hina, the only one I know for certain, is less than 1gb (something like 600mb from nyaa torrent) and it has 14 volumes. I think 2 TB should be enough.
>>272844373Thanks, anon. I will be download volumes later today.
>>272845320What do you mean? I see Southern Hockey, Root Paradise, Pokapoka etc. on Kobo's store
>>272840480>6673 worksI dunno about that. I wanted to scroll through so I could give you the URLs. The web inspector's telling me it's loaded more than 12000 items, and it probably only stalled because I had to leave the computer. Even if that's all of them, it's still double the expected number. There are a couple you can't read for free online, but those are a minority. There's also a pretty large number that can only be read in trial, what do you plan on doing with those?
>>272844373>including numerous adsI don't know how this website works or if it helps, but I have used uBlock Origin in Selenium before, and it worked fine, it made the process much faster.
>>272846488NTA but if anons can't download them all, they mostly will not acquire them. If there are way more works that anons can save and they can't access them without paying for them individually, there are no other alternatives than cutting losses. Anons are trying their best to salvage what's on the site, if you want to help, try to save as many manga as you can. Don't put anyone under pressure because they might not find a solution for this since there might be no workaround for it.
I've made my own script after all, it requires NodeJS (tested with 22). Run "npm install" first and then "node mzrip.js id_or_url".https://drive.google.com/file/d/10KpNp5VPuYJiPzTfLBJor891GYFyxwJF/view?usp=sharingThe difference with the other scripts is that it doesn't need the browser at all, it downloads and descrambles the images by itself. Saves as PNGs though, so expect some bloat, even though I'm using the highest zlib compression level. Uses --threads=10 and --out=Downloads by default, you can adjust them in the command as needed.I have only tested it on a few titles, so expect strange behavior if it encounters something other than normal manga formatting. The page format suggests that other possibilities exist, but I haven't yet encountered anything out of the ordinary to test.No login support yet, so no support for premium titles. If I manage to get premium for myself, I'll maybe do a v02 of the script.
>wake up>people are now rushing to back up the entire library by saving bloated as fuck canvas imagesFor fuck's sake. Manga Z books are free to read on their site but they're also available on all major ebook platforms and are listed under Jコミックテラス publisher. You can easily get and rip them from Kindle or Kobo, furthermore they're all free if you've got Kindle Unlimited subscription. Manga Z site is closing down but there's no indication that Jコミックテラス is going under with it.
>>272848633Many of them are literally not. Find me a digital version of ひなぎく純真女学園, I'll actually be grateful if you do.
>>272846488Let us know how it goes. I'm just aping the number listed by the site itself.>>272848501Awesome. This could potentially be much better than my clunky selenium script.>>272848633Even the porn?
>>272848708Now that's something people actually should do: look for titles that aren't available elsewhere.My main point (the canvas bloat) is moot now anyway, seeing that another anon posted a proper descramble ripper while I was writing my post.
>>272848712It's also very clunky, but I do hope that it will be a little faster maybe (and it won't have duplicates by design). And you'd have to shell script or node script over it to download more than one book at once, I didn't make any support for arrays. Shouldn't be hard though.And I also have no idea where to get the whole catalogue other than by just brute-forcing through book IDs.
>>272848925Wouldn't it be just as bloated? Or is the other script saving the images in a non-native resolution? The blob I see in the dev tools (the one eventually rendered to the canvas) is in native resolution at least, but I didn't actually try out the other script.Descramble still means that I'm saving what used to be a JPG as a PNG in the end, to avoid more compression artifacts. The file was scrambled not by moving byte arrays around, but by making a new JPG with scrambled squares (which means we're already two levels of JPG compression deep before we even begin to descramble).
>>272848501Is it possible to make a NodeJS v13 compatible script?
>>272838388A pimp standing up for his hoes, but not just to play mind games. Never heard of that this century.
>現在プレミアム会員の新規受付を停止していますDammit, there goes all of the 18+ stuff. Though I thought I saw the option when I was signing up, will check later.
>>272849543I have no idea, and at least today no time to check either. You can try running it, I just don't know if it will work, it will probably complain about using modules or something. But unless you're on some very old OS you can probably update NodeJS or install multiple with nvm/fnm or whatever's trendy these days.
>>272849845I'm on Windows 7 and can only run older versions. All I'm getting is a bunch of errors when trying to rip something.
>>272850113All I can suggest is trying this maybehttps://github.com/Alex313031/node18-win7/releases/tag/v18.20.2I'll take a look, but I'm afraid that figuring out which older versions of libraries will work on 13 is going to be a giant pain in the butt (threading probably needs to be done differently too).
>>272850400Error when installing modules:npm WARN EBADENGINE Unsupported engine {npm WARN EBADENGINE package: 'simple-xml-to-json@1.2.3',npm WARN EBADENGINE required: { node: '>=20.12.2' },npm WARN EBADENGINE current: { node: 'v18.20.2', npm: '10.5.0' }npm WARN EBADENGINE }Error when running the script:if (id.indexOf('/') >= 0) { ^TypeError: id.indexOf is not a function at Object.<anonymous> (F:\Downloads\mzrip_v01\mzrip.js:19:8) at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1364:14) at Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1422:10) at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1203:32) at Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1019:12) at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:128:12) at node:internal/main/run_main_module:28:49I guess even v18 is too old.
>>272850113Do you use windows 7 because you like or your computer can't run windows 10 or 11? If your computer is a potato from the 00s, I would recommend trying using linux, and if it not a potato, you can ignore my suggestion.
>>272850578Ah, this runtime error is just me being retarded, didn't think the arg parser would try to coerce argument types to numbers. Use full URL or replace lines 19-20 of mzrip.js with:if (id.toString().indexOf('/') >= 0) { const array = id.toString().split('/');I've updated the archive too. But probably still won't work at some point.
>>272850617NTA but I've got a lot of friends stuck on Windows 7 because they simply hate the direction that Windows has moved into and greatly prefer the classic UI for everything. I can understand them, I'm only on 10 because many things I need require it, and I'm also stubbornly not updating to 11 (in part because it will disable my VR headsets, thanks a lot Microsoft for killing support for your own VR framework and headsets using it!)
>>272826697Retard, it's cause payment processors blocked his site, generation of faggots
>>272850802Yeah, I got this. Windows 10 and 11 has many dumb stuff on it but I use 10 to use software and play vidya.
>>272850707Fetching settings for book ID https://www.mangaz.com/series/detail/163491node:internal/event_target:1062 process.nextTick(() => { throw err; }); ^Error: Could not load the "sharp" module using the win32-x64 runtimeERR_DLOPEN_FAILED: The specified procedure could not be found.\\?\F:\Downloads\mzrip_v01\node_modules\@img\sharp-win32-x64\lib\sharp-winEmitted 'error' event on Piscina instance at: at EventEmitterReferencingAsyncResource.runInAsyncScope (node:async_ho at Piscina.emit (node:events:165:18) at ThreadPool._onError (F:\Downloads\mzrip_v01\node_modules\piscina\di at Worker.<anonymous> (F:\Downloads\mzrip_v01\node_modules\piscina\dis at Worker.emit (node:events:517:28) at [kOnErrorMessage] (node:internal/worker:314:10) at [kOnMessage] (node:internal/worker:325:37) at MessagePort.<anonymous> (node:internal/worker:225:57) at [nodejs.internal.kHybridDispatch] (node:internal/event_target:786:2 at exports.emitMessage (node:internal/per_context/messageport:23:28)I tried suggested npm install --include=optional sharp but it didn't help. Guess it's fucked.
>>272851008Sharp is only needed to optimize PNGs, so if you're stuck there, in mzworker.mjs uncomment line 29 (remove the // before "await resultImage.write(fileName);") and comment out lines 30-32 (add // before each of them). You'll get more bloated PNGs though. I'll make using sharp optional later, not today though, it's deep, deep night here and I'll crash for now.
>>272850942i'm on 7 with a linux vm(s), i could probably use vista if i gave a shit, it can handle current browserswhen i'm not lazy i'll probably switch to linux main and vm whatever if neededwith increasing mobileshits maybe pc can lean away from spoonfeed bloat, but that also keeps mobileshits from becoming customersand if it needs to be said i guess, vista is lighter than 7, people just finally had 09 nonshit comps when 7 arrived
Oh and yeah my script doesn't support series pages, most of them have the same ID as volume 1 so it still downloads that at least, but some have different IDs from the book IDs. I'll probably add support for series pages tomorrow so it's easier to save the stuff that has shittons of separate chapters.
>>272851192That make sense. Thanks for the clarification.
>>272838444https://x.com/yamadataro43/status/1853794790770684228trying to work with Ken about the issue, it seems>The Manga Library Z website was shut down due to a notice from the payment processing company terminating the entire payment service.>At this point, it is unclear whether this is a decision made by the payment processing company or an instruction from the acquirer.>In order to protect freedom of expression and freedom of content trading going forward, we will need to negotiate not only with specific international brands (headquarters and branches), but also with the many acquirers and payment processing companies that exist within Japan alone.>We will continue to do our utmost to make it a reality that "any content that can be freely traded in real life can also be freely traded online.">It seems that Ken Akamatsu, founder of Manga Library Z, has more accurate information on this matter, so we would like to work together to resolve the issue.
Did anyone archive it?
>>272851170It finally worked after I also deleted "import sharp" line in the beginning. Thank you.
>>272844373>>272848501Would it be better to use a repo hosting service like github for the script?
>>272851310i'm just a random anon not part of the earlier posts
>>272826102apparently some japanese anti-AIcucks on twitter are forging this fake information that manga library Z is shutting down because of AI slop
>>272832453isn't the LDP centre-right though?
>>272826750Depends if manga rightsholders are too lazy or not to go after them. For as litigious as Fujio Pro is about people uploading Akatsuka stuff illegally, they haven't nuked some troll's reposted Chinese web upload of his DVD-ROM set.
I thought this was supposed to be a gov funded project in vein of cultural preservation.
>>272853037The only cultural preservation in terms of manga they have is National Diet Library that got a copy of like every single magazine issue (no idea about tanks), and even then you can't just simple browse and read it. You have to make a request and then wait till they photocopy your query.
>>272853629>You have to make a request and then wait till they photocopy your querythat's insanely ass-backwards
>>272854017Most government agencies are very, very backwards, tech wise.
>>272853037>>272854075I have only seen this when people are requiring highly secure levels of public documents, like Brazil's UFO related documents that are public but most people can't just get theirs hands on them. I don't understand why doing the same with manga magazines, desu.>>272854017It's.
>>272854017From the bureaucratic point of view, hiring personnel specifically to digitize old books must be a huge waste of money. Even for a fucking national library.I looked for such job once, the pay was rather miserable and everyone who applied quit sooner or later.
>>272854017Look at the bright side, they'll send it straight to your fax machine.
>>272827585You're not required to work in PSD, although yes it's true that publishers will still want you to send them PSDs for the final print. Many programs allow you to export as PSD, so it's not really an issue.
>>272854416Doesn't Krita natively support .psd?
>>272841414...except black people, women, religious groups, disabled people, etc, etc ,etc.
>>272854477It might do. As does CSP. Point is, it's a non-issue.
>>272854258Japan's government should invest more in acquiring and research for this kind of "scan" technology: https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/new-technology-reads-ancient-document-withoutv-reading-them/4210686.htmlhttps://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/mit-machine-read-books-without-openinghttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-21-year-old-used-ai-to-decipher-text-from-a-scroll-that-hasnt-been-read-in-2000-years-180983084/I think old books, artbooks, special editions, and manga would be extremely benefited by this regarding the increasing suffering to scan them one by one page and dismantle them.
>>272827585No? I work as a pro TS and half of the layered files our company receives from our Japanese clients are in TIFF.
>>272826102I just realize DLPay is not available anymore so buying DLsite points on paypal isnt possible anymore. FUCK
>>272854845Really? Maybe it's time to get a Discovery card.
>>272854925https://dl-pay.com/Other method is available but we need a fucking Phone number to make a purchase.Another one is Amazon pay, which is unreliable as fuckIts so fucking over.
>>272852443Typical X bullshit, apparently there's a bunch of larper faggots trying to sow some seeds, trying to get nips to listen to Grummz' yapping.
Nothing ever happens
>>272855650Tried it. No Paypal option either.
>>272826102White people at it again...
>>272826102Isnt this the first case where Visa/Paypal bankrupted a company in Japan ?????? This is Huge
>>272843744I checked this. Love Hina's torrents from pdf and scrapped versions of mangaz are different. The pdf takes more storage and its seems in better quality. Fuck.
>>272826102>Manga Library Z is closing down soonWhat classics are there?
>>272849205>Descramble still means that I'm saving what used to be a JPG as a PNG in the end, to avoid more compression artifacts. The file was scrambled not by moving byte arrays around, but by making a new JPG with scrambled squares (which means we're already two levels of JPG compression deep before we even begin to descramble).You can at least descramble by moving the byte arrays around so you get a JPEG that stays only two levels deep
>>272853629>and even then you can't just simple browse and read it.Not even if you visit the NDL building?I guess it serves to protect the magazines from wear and tear, since they can't be reprinted.But it's crazy that they only allow photocopying, not scanning. I guess that's one way to deter gaijins.
>>272858620Who knows, maybe in 2060 their unpaid interns have finished scanning the library and the library puts its entire catalogue on the internet for everyone (with a Japanese IP) to read for free.
so that meant we will only have big boobs older onee-san porn from now on?
>>272826164It's sad to think that, regardless of who's elected in the US, credit card companies will still have free reign to do whatever they want. I hate that being pro-censorship feels like a bipartisan issue, and that the US has as much influence as it does in regards to that.
>>272858659Some of the issues are still in print or available to buy digitally, you can't just release them for free, that would kill sales.
>>272852282Too lazy to create a fresh account there, wouldn't want to use any of the existing ones. And it's not like these scripts will be needed ever again.
mzrip v2, super bare bones support for series URLs - gets all of the series' books and then downloads them one by one. Logs will be a mess, but I prioritized speed over log consistency here. Possible to refactor to have proper logs, but I had like 15 minutes and I've gotta head off to work now.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lg6cCpQPBz6YTr7MXeWRP9JbbEFB0YPq/view?usp=sharingProbably buggy as fuck because the library keeps going down and I can't debug it properly, as you can't really download anything at the moment. Skips over already downloaded images, but still always re-downloads book meta-data for now. Doesn't retry anything, fixable with axios config later.
ganbare anonsmakeruna
>Old MangaJust how old are we talking here?I can barely stomach Lone Wolf & Cub's artstyle, let alone Osamu Tezuka's Originals.
>>272859485Any chance you can implement what >>272858543 suggested?
>>272848712https://book.dmm.co.jp/list/?publisher=56353
>>272860032It's impossible in javascraptFor anyone feeling adventurous, check out https://torchjpeg.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html
>>272860032It just doesn't work like that. Like I said, the image is not scrambled by moving around byte arrays, so it can't be de-scrambled by moving around byte arrays. It's a purely visual scramble that is then saved as a new JPG entirely, so it's the only thing we can work with. It's not a binary level encryption, it's literally the same as if the image would have been scrambled by cutting and pasting in photoshop. This is unfortunately the norm for web viewers, as in the browser environment it's easier to load an image and blit it on a canvas as needed. Though there are exceptions, Fuz v2 is thankfully using a binary encryption, so we can get source images without extra compression (well, ignoring that initial debacle where they fucked up the source images themselves, so much that even the authors got pissed).
>>272860108I may be misunderstanding something, but I don't quite see how Torchjpeg is relevant. It seems to deal with precise decoding/encoding of JPEGs (that may be required, say, for machine learning purposes), but not at all with image manipulation?
>>272860108>>272860203Shame, I hoped there would be a way to reduce the bloat. I tried to reduce filesize with OptiPNG and Photoshop but it's still around 110MB for a single 1170px volume on average. I bet the original is something like 60, if not less.
>>272841321Anyone can get into the middleman business and start a price war if they live in Japan. Surely the yakuza do that kind of thing. So it's a matter of knowing someone, starting basically today.
>>272860296It allows you to copy and paste DCT blocks around the image without decoding and reencoding them.>>272860306Actually now that I think about it, you could use jpegtran from Node. It would just require dozens of subprocess calls per image and a temporary image file.
>>272860306You can convert to JPG or lossy PNG to reduce bloat, but of course you'd be losing some quality in the process. It could be negligible for practical purposes though, I'm just a pixel perfect maniac sometimes. Even though publishers and storefronts are not making it easy to be one.
>>272860342>copy and paste DCT blocks aroundHmm, if it can do that, I'll take a look. Thanks, wasn't aware of this. Though there isn't really any guarantee that the scrambled blocks would always map onto DCT blocks.
>>272860342>>272860370Yeah the crops unfortunately do not map at all to 8x8 blocks, so that's a bummer.
>>272860439But if you can guess the JPEG settings of the original (non-scambled) JPEG, saving it with them shouldn't introduce any extra noise, it might even remove the noise from the second post-scramble JPEG resave.
>>272860306There are some thigns that could be done. This is a quick run through optipng.But it's not much. (from >>272848501)
>>272860344I could do a blanket 80% quality JPG convert and it would reduce said 110MB volume to 65MB, yes. All things considered, the difference most likely would be barely noticeable. But then I'd be saving JPG as JPG and introducing even more compression garbage, and and I'm not sure I could live with such sin on my shoulders.A feeling so complicated.
>>272860493This is magic beyond my understanding, if I'm being completely honest with you.
i understand wanting compression but drives are cheap(along with sufficient net) and are getting cheaperthat said, i admittedly don't have ~2tb free right now
>>272860493I think jxl can do this
>>272860584Storage is cheap, bandwidth is cheap. If you're going to distribute the files later, don't convert them to a lossy format.
>>272860807It's cheap until you want to archive an entire giant website.
>>272860771They are cheap and getting cheaper pretty much only in the US. More importantly, one's available storage space is not a reason to ignore the bloat issue. People used to ridicule Coalgirls releases for a reason.>>272860807It's my personal backup, I don't have plans to distribute it later.
>>272861166Consider webp then, it should provide better lossy compression than jpg.
>>272858864>It's sad to think that, regardless of who's elected in the US, credit card companies will still have free reign to do whatever they wantalmpst like it's by design.read hoppe
>>272860584>it would reduce said 110MB volume to 65MBIf the savings are not even 2x then just keep the """bloat""", it wouldn't make any difference.
>>272861396That's a psyop, webp is actually just as bad, just in different ways.You won't see the JPEG artifacts you're used to but the colors and textures will be fucked up.
>>272857581If you mean this torrent - https://nyaa.si/view/176441 - then it's the same not very good quality, 1170px vertical both on the web and in the attached image from the PDF. Is there another torrent I'm missing?
>>272826578Fuck, the users better back up everything
There is also this torrent - https://nyaa.si/view/1409980 - and indeed it's in a much better quality, but the source is seemingly different, and even the edition is different (a newer one).
>>272863661That's a rip of the official Kodansha ebook from 2017.
>>272854509My religion celebrates erotic expression as worship of the goddess Quetzalcoatl. How does my clan of black retarded women I sue them for this discrimination?
>>272845157I have a spare hdd w/ 12TB. I wish I could just mail it to him w/ a check and get it mailed back full of manga.
>>272826164Time to cancel my credit card, I barely even use it anyway.
No one really cares about history, cultural integrity and the preservation of works.
>>272862106Lossless webp is lossless period
>>272866829But last I heard, lossless webp provides no real size advantage over png.
I'd like to repost, jpegxl can recompress jpegs, try using it to losslessly compress the already doubly compressed images, maybe it'll figure out the original settigs or something.dunno, never actually tried it.
>>272866869It's 25-50% smaller in most cases and can be comparable to jpeg in a lot of cases
>>272863332Nope. This is the one I was refering. I have multiple scans for Love Hina alone and I made a wrong comparison between this one with an even older scan from physical volumes.
>>272826102GoodKeep kneeling to america, japan, im pretty sure that has worked for you all these 80 years
>>272846162>What do you mean? I see Southern Hockey, Root Paradise, Pokapoka etc. on Kobo's storeoh they finally did it,huh
>>272869174Check the dates, they were added December 2017.
>>272866829That' nice but that's not what >>272861396 said>>272866980How do you compare lossless to jpeg?
oxipng support added, oxipng.exe binary included but should in theory work on Linux as well if you replace it with the Linux binaryhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/15oBA4W2hmbL55aHwoKhtznZJOIQLj9ZH/view?usp=sharingTo use oxipng (30%-50% smaller files compared with sharp zlib 9):node mzrip.js --oxipng -- url_or_book_idTo use sharp:node mzrip.js --sharp -- url_or_book_idWithout passing either of these a normal bloated PNG will be quickly saved, which you can then pass on to any optimizer yourself.sharp is unfortunately has to be imported in either case, so on Windows 7 you may still have to comment out the "import sharp" line manually, for some reason I'm forced to use an ESM module and I really, really can't be bothered to figure out why require() fails in the workers with some internal NodeJS error.Someone on Reddit also shared a list of series IDs they have managed to scrape:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1M-Sm30XuhF9BdADgY9IbUkymsV1NG8UbI will maybe try to use this and save at least something to my external HDD, but it has very little space left. A bit too tired to make any further modifications to the script too.
In theory, there is the old mobile app, I'm looking at the APK for it and the API does provide downloads that are binary encrypted. Which would have been absolutely bloody perfect. The problem is, I'm not sure whether I just can't get the API to work or it's largely disabled - it returns me some public rankings with actual data but throws 403 or 400 elsewhere.
>>272872676I've managed to log in and request data from https://zapp.mangaz.com/v1/books/153611/download but in the end it gave me the exact same JSON that I'm already getting from the web viewer... Maybe there are more parameters I need to pass to get locations of the binary encrypted stuff, maybe it's just not there anymore, my digital sleuth skills are not enough for this sadly.It could still be used to make the script just that tiny bit faster (no need to load and parse the laggy and prone-to-504 HTML), but it requires logging in or generating an app token to work and that's just more effort than I can spare right now.
Just, JUST in case someone doesn't know, there are AI models than are pretty great at removing JPEG artifacts. They won't save something that was saved at 20% quality, but for 50%+ they are invaluable for scanlation. I think Alsa's models are still the best, they destroy artifacts without altering screentones in any way https://openmodeldb.info/users/alsa
I haven't read a lot of manga and stuff. What should I do before this goes down for good?
>>272826164crypto fixes this btw
So, in a bit of good news, the R18 stuff isn't actually paywalled at all in the API, no need to be premium to get the files. It's just a client-side check to only show the first few pages. To download via a series URL, need to set a cookie to get through the "are you of age" redirect though.
>>272874939not really...
>>272874939It doesn't though.
>>272874939Depends on what we're talking about.
>>272866804This post is hilariously one-sided.
>>272876510Just a /pol/ poster with his inconsistent, reality-avoiding ideology.
>>272874939Not really.
>>272835724From my experience while we are seeing more manga that's close to being borderline hentai (completely censoring or not drawing genitalia) few to none of them involve a loli. I think the only one I've seen recently with a loli explicitly getting fucked is Creature Girls.
>>272852443Even if that AI shit were true why would anyone assume it's Manga Z's fault for the actions of someone else? Akamatsu may not be effective as a politician but he isn't stupid enough to mess with that quagmire of too realistic loli ai art.
>>272835724Manga has become more distinct regarding certain genres being used in them, e.g. If there is smut genre on theirs tags, there is a lot of smut on them.
>>272866438Martin Scorsese does not care what you think.
>>272880302Can't post the later pages because the mods might not believe it's a regular all ages manga.
>>272880302Even if you look at TL you get series like this.
>>272877356Truth
>>272881971The Japanese don't use a smut tag. It sounds more like foreigners have realized manga is more diverse than their limited perception allows.
>>272881971>>272885510Usually, most of what's tagged as smut on English websites is TL
>>272885510>>272885579I see. Thanks for the clarifiction.
>>272874939No
>>272827587If it's on pomf.cat it's there foreverIf it's on zippyshare it's there foreverIf it's on megaupload it's there foreveretc.
>>272887879and what about the exchange between real money and crypto
>>272887917What about it?Just use any exchange market.You don't need a contract for that.
>>272887974but the companies themselves do.
>>272887989In the apocalyptic scenario that all the credit card companies ban all the crypto exchanges, you can still find an in-person one and get cash.
>>272874939Trve, sad that normalfags continue to ignore it while the noose tightens around their necks and will continue until it is too late
>>272887879>anyone can process crypto payments.In theory. In reality, you will eventually find that the mining will be in the hands of a handful of state-level actors (or google-level, if you prefer) who have powerful processing farms (with dedicated power plants) that you cannot compete with.
>>272826102Rest in peperoni
>>272888184This in no way prevent you from buying/exchanging crypto and transferring it to anyone, retard
>>272888271When they govern the processing, yes it does.The reason why it's still free is because it's still obscure.
>>272888297The reason is that it is not possible in the foreseeable future
>>272826102This library wouldn't have went down if it received US Dollar funding. Ken Akamatsu and Japanese people aren't thinking. Libgen existed on US Dollar donations. And it hosted fuckload more than Comics. It existed until Jews wanted more shekelsMangaZ is literally ran in Japan. They could probably diver some of the US Dollar donation to slowly translating their Old Manga into English. But Noooooo
>>272826697At least he tried!!!>>272826925It's already happening with digital stores (Fantia, DLsite, Fanza, Booth):>https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/266826123/#266826123>https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/264945527/#264945527>https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/267704290/#267704290>https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/240447875/#240447875>https://www.pixiv.net/info.php?id=8788
>>272826995Getting a JCB should be quite easy in Asia though. (Imagine wanting to expand to Pakistan lol) >https://www.global.jcb/en/products/cards/issuer/>>272827577>VISA lied.Manga died.>>272828411>Perfect DarkWow. It sucks. >A Perfect Dark user was arrested for the first time on 27 January 2010. The user had been uploading and sharing an episode of the Japanese animation TV series Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood with Perfect Dark and was charged with breach of copyright law.[9]>On 10 June 2010, a second user, a 43-year-old man, was arrested on the suspicion of uploading roughly one thousand copyrighted files including the Big Windup! anime series.[10]>On 8 October 2010, a 42-year-old woman was arrested for uploading the Mitsudomoe anime television series.[11]>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Dark_(P2P)
>>272841169you can buy bitcash from sites like seagm. it's what im using for tora now that there's no visa and their fee is the cheapest. The moment i get a japanese phone I'm just buying directly from the web though
Seems like hakuneko is working too, might need to replace /book/ with /series/ in the URL to get past some errors though.
>>272889158Is there a way to get a Japanese phone without living in Japan? I'd definitely be interested in one for payment purposes.>>272889175Awesome if true, a pre-built exe with a GUI is definitely more convenient for archiving one by one (though ideally we'd want to archive everything, maybe I'll end up buying an express shipped external hard drive for this...).
>>272889237You may be able to buy a Japanese esim to receive sms, but I haven't tried that yet.
>>272889049>Perfect DarkFor a P2P network full of CP, it's weird that its users only ever seem to get arrested for anime.I would guess they got caught somewhere else and just happened to also be using PD among other channels.
>>272886949>NOOO ENTROPY EXISTS SO JUST STOP PRESERVING THINGSfuck off. the point is that catbox.moe is a permanent archive that doesnt care about da rules
>>272889158>The moment i get a japanese phone I'm just buying directly from the web thoughHow would that work?
>>272889175It doesn't for me, and that first crude script by anon was made because it didn't work for him either.
>>272889427Until the owner runs out of money, gets into legal trouble, or the server farm they're hosted on shuts down for many possible reasons.To truly preserve things, they must be hosted on many services and in many ways, and automatically re-hosted once some threshold of broken mirrors is reached. There have to be at the very least two direct storage archives and a torrent, but also preferably something like IPFS. Basically the libgen approach to things.
>>272889460Bitcash lets you fill up the wallet as long as you verify your account with a Japanese phone number or an email address issued by a Japanese carrier. I'm not sure whether it would work with prepaid SIM cards though.
>>272889562I mean, fill up the wallet directly with Visa/Mastercard/whatever. I can't say whether they check the card issuer country though, some websites do that, but some don't.
>>272884078what is the manga name ?
>>272889755
>>272889779Thanks anon
>>272888822Fanza still lets me buy AV with VISA, only e-books and doujinshi are blocked.Purchasing points via DMM.com is also possible with VISA.
Is anybody working to scrape and archive?
>>272890865I sure hope so, but probably not. I'll try to archive some stuff, but, again, limited time and very limited hard drive space at the moment, so my efforts will not amount to much.
It would be perfect if someone figures out how to retrieve the binary encrypted files so we can have clean JPEG rips. Here's the APK for the unpublished app that has the API definition:https://apkpure.com/jp/jp.co.jcomi.mangazappIf you can figure it out you know what to do already properly, I've tried looking around via Jadx in the decompiled source and looked at the ApiService Retrofit definitions, but couldn't get the API to provide me with responses that aren't the same as on the web (with scrambled "orders" but not encrypted "images")This could make archival faster, cleaner, and take up much, much less space. If their API is still somehow capable of providing that data.
Why Akamatsu release the encrpytion
>>272892281*doesn't
Having some issues with anon's script. It seems like the selenium browser page gets highlighted, causing the script to download the same two pages infinitely. Gonna try adjusting the sleep time and see if that helps. If I can get it working, I'll archive what I can.Also gave Hakuneko a try, not sure how that anon got it working, because I definitely can't.Also, it'd be really great if we had a list of titles exclusive to MangaLibraryZ, so we could prioritize series that might be lost come the 26th
>>272892281Because right holders insist upon such bullshit, even if it's barely stopping piracy. If he disabled it or obviously enabled others to sidestep it, he would be violating contracts.
>>272892281Copyright. The works may be available for free, but they're still not copyright-free, and the authors are technically making peanuts from ads. Look at how much the website is plastered with ABJ logos and "stop piracy" banners.Akamatsu is not anti-copyright, Akamatsu is pro-preservation.
>>272892695But at some point, copyright directly hinders preservation.
>>272892726>you're getting shut down by credit card providers? duuuude, just get yourself sued to oblivion on top of that by breaching your contracts what could go wrong lmao
>>272826578Let's all back it up on archive.org!Surely nothing could go wrong!
>>272892628>Also, it'd be really great if we had a list of titles exclusive to MangaLibraryZ, so we could prioritize series that might be lost come the 26thIs it seriously that hard to check if the titles are available in another store?
>>272893387For over 6k titles (we're still not sure how many there are exactly)? Yes, quite. Especially since stores may have completely different editions with different content (or event art!).
>>272893387Kindle has over 2k Jコミックテラス books.Kobo has an actual number: 2029 books. Plus, I noticed that some Jコミックテラス books aren't available on Kindle but are on Kobo.MangaZ itself has 2160 series (series, not books) in shounen/seinen category alone.Have fun triple checking lmao.
It doesn't have to be done manually, right?What about scraping a list of titles from multiple storefronts, and then comparing them to a list scraped from MLZ? Wouldn't that at least give an idea as to what's exclusive?
>>272894327Doing it right is harder than just archiving everything, in my opinion. Cataloguing is always messy.
>>272894514I agree.And not only that, but even the same version in different stores can have different quality.
>>272875012>>272875776It does
>>272826102Today I will remind them.
>>272894327There's another issue: unknown number of series available on MangaZ are sold by some other than Jコミックテラス publishers that specialize in peddling old manga digitally. You have to double check against that as well because they have different scan source, thus different scan quality, resolution and possibly missing pages. I'm certain I have some manga on my Kindle account that had at least 5 different digital publishers and thus 5 different versions.If you have time sort all this bullshit, then go ahead.
>>272895135The fuck is with this logo? Have I time warped back to 2001?
I don't know how much use it'll be, but I scraped 4600 titles and their IDs from MangaZ.https://files.catbox.moe/0gdvph.csvThe numerical ID can be appended to /virgo/view/ in the reader, hopefully it makes automating everything easier if we can have anon's script read IDs from an external file.
>>272826102i's over for japan
I don't see a bright future for japantheir vidya, their anime. all cucked to follow (((global standards))) recently
>>272895323Awesome!I won't make the script itself accept external file as input, as everyone will use all kinds of files for this. But a wrapper should be super easy to implement and I'll add some sample wrapper that can be tuned, probably with one of the lists floating around like this one.I'm still not certain that we're not missing out on some stuff that's not in the "new arrivals" or "new uploads" pages, so I feel like maybe trying to brute-force IDs could still be worth it.
>>272895869Sorry, but I call bullshit on this one. Most of Japanese media is still as distinctively Japanese as it always was, all they did was cut down on making CP content overly explicit (and even then only in commercial works, doujin world is still as insane as ever).Localized versions of games may get some level of censorship, which sucks, but Japan has literally nothing to do with it. And even then, learning Japanese is an option, although admittedly not an effortless one. But if I managed to do it, and I am certifiably stupid if not outright retarded, so can most people.
>>272826578>run a business>oh no we got no money>shut downwow what a surpriseif they actually cared they'd be hosting a torrent with them all on it, the only way to actually preserve shit is to get it into as many as possible
>>272831619japan is quite LITERALLY american vassal state
>>272896058>if they actually cared they'd commit crimes for randosamazing logic
They truly have some absolute gems in their catalogue.
>>272895903>I feel like maybe trying to brute-force IDs could still be worth it.Definitely, there's bound to be a ton of stuff missing from these lists
>>272888159With trump winning I have seen troons on xitter forced to use crypto to buy their hormones from the black market
>>272896269SAUCE NAO
>>272896265Aaron Swartz did.
>>272895998>Localized versions of games may get some level of censorship, which sucks, but Japan has literally nothing to do with ityou're ignorant about the recent development
>>272896539https://www.mangaz.com/book/detail/140401It's amazing.
>>272896248if this is true why do mutts keep seething about japan?
>>272896787
>>272896787holy shit
>>272896787Someone make a proper dump thread
>>272895869>animeHave you seen the past few seasons?
>>272898530>>272899075Should we also move over the archival discussion there, since this thread has now hit the bump limit? I've began to scrape IDs by brute-forcing, but it's clearly gonna take a while due to a rate limit or their server just not being very fast. I wanted to use the zapp APIs, which appear faster, but those don't have any of the R18 stuff available, since you can't have that in mobile apps.
The first 3000 ids didn't hit on anything not in the CSV, and it's frankly a super slow process (it would take almost three whole days to check all ~250k, assuming I had a computer doing that 24/7, though I guess I could rent another Hetzner box), so probably I'll just archive what I can based on the CSV. Can't save everything though, so, well, please also save something.
Alright, I found _one_ item that's not in any list and not even appearing in the website search:https://www.mangaz.com/series/detail/4681So there definitely are some unlisted books, but the amount of them appears to be miniscule.
