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Hunter x Hunter
>EN TER
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>>272833390
They would lose to the shadow beast btw
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>>272833390
daily reminder
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Bring me Bitchsoka
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Chrollo
>pedo
>racist
>sexist
>cheater
>abuser
>cuck
>rapist
>jaywalker
>killer
>manipulator
>coward
>crybaby
>evil
>hedonist
>selfish
>Theif
>religious extremist
All supported with manga panels and FACTS. Hisoka WILL rape and then rip apart Chrollo’s body as punishment from the grim reaper himself
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>>272833390
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>>272834052
>I-I'm normal... I can't get aroused by dodgeball game... I can't... Please let me go aieeeee
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>PRINCE TSERRIEDNICH!! YOU WILL TRAIN TEN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!
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Are they really going to "they only kill bad people" the troupe?
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Is Kuwabara's sword transmuted or conjured?
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>>272834499
Transmuted.
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>>272834499
Gons scissors was transmuted AFAIK and that's like the obvious homage to Kuwabaras
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>>272834330
No? The Troupe kills anyone on their path, but that doesnt mean they want to destroy the world/Kakin or that they go actively looking for trouble.
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Emitters are extremely cool
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>PT did not kill Kurt-ACK!!
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>>272834610
Is YuYu Hakusho actually good? I got halfway through the dark tournament before dropping it.
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>>272834499
Emitted spiritual energy that takes the form and properties of a sword
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>>272834693
It has a lot of decent things but it feels kind of unrefined, the weekly grind probably didn't help when it comes to structuring out arcs like HxH has been able to do
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>>272834693
the best arc comes after the dark tournament, but it shits the bed in the end really badly, because that was when Togashi started to collapse
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Reminder that #13 (only a fraction of Razor's full power) easily overpowered Bungee Gum
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>>272834693
If you enjoyed HxH I don't see any reason why you wouldn't enjoy YYH. The Dark Tournament is one of the best tournament arcs in all of anime/manga. And a lot of character designs from HxH clearly originated from some in YYH, it's like a proto-HxH in a way.
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>>272834868
>The Dark Tournament is one of the best tournament arcs in all of anime/manga
Don't listen to this retard, its the most overrated tournament arc in all of anime/manga its mostly just worthless filler fights.
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>>272833390
WHERE THE FUCK IS GON??
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>>272834985
he's gon(e)
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>>272834844
Further reminder that a large chunk of Razor's aura is also dedicated to maintaining the emission cards on Greed Island meaning he wasn't anywhere near full power during the dodgeball game.
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>>272833390
Publicly released and Togashi-approved HxH official characters ranking

For all complaints, please contact the management of Shonen Jump magazine
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Remember Illumi saving Kurapika's life and bandaging him up
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>>272834953
I honestly agree. I did not find YYH that interesting because most of the fights are a slog and the powers are quite boring. Perhaps the manga is better paced but I found YYH waaaaay overrated even if it's still good.
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>>272835106
I think it's adequately rated for a 35 year old shonen
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>>272835044
I think the list if pretty correct but how can you add characters like this when we have never seen them in any combat or their abilities (except razor)
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>>272835171
Idk I prefer older stuff and never found YYH that good. Toriko is better imo, the manga that is.
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>>272835188
We have some hints as to where is their power level.

>Razor: We've seen direct feats of strength
>Ginta: For now we only have Hisoka's ranking. That's still something.
>Muherr: Leader of the combat squad in Beyond's crew, in which each member has been selected by Beyond because they're a top tier expert in their field + Mizai wanted to put him at a leading role in the expedition + Ging knows him and respects him.
>Saiyu: Zodiac + Blacklist Hunter, his job is literaly to fight people all the time. (for example Kanzai is also a combat-oriented Zodiac but his job is Treasure Hunter)
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>>272835044
I assume this isn't ordered from left to right in terms of strength? If it is then Binolt should be at the top of low tier if not Shadow Beast tier. He'd curbstomp Pokkle.
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>>272833975
i dont care about powerscaling i just want leorio to succeed because he's funny and charming
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>>272835044
No Zodiac or elf can compete with the combat spiders. Featless I fear.
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>>272834693
There are like four cool scenes and the rest of it varies from uninspired knockoff to retarded garbage
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>>272835229
Toriko still came out 15 years later. It is not that fair to compare. Rurouni Kenshin you could say is a Shonen made around the same time that is mostly better.
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>>272835026
he's probably gon san/netero level
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>>272835303
Why would he curbstomp Pokkle? I feel like both are mostly on the same tier overall but Binolt is a close-range fighter while Pokkle is a mid-range / long-range fighter, which would put Binolt at a disadvantage and give Pokkle a serious edge in a 1v1.
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>>272833975
No one argues Leorio or Rabid Dog are Spider-tier.
The others are, however.
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>>272834844
And Razor is only mid troupe member (Shizuku tier) and Ging acknowledged him.
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>>272834868
I wouldn't compare Kenshin and Yu Yu since they're not the same type of shonen
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>>272834330
They kill people who are on their ways. They just don't go on killing spree for fun, except maybe Feitan who is a sadist.
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>>272835458
It's pretty clear from what we see and Bisky's thoughts that Binolt would have easily killed Gon and Killua if she hadn't wounded him beforehand and pre their initial training using him to improve. We didn't get to see much from Pokkle but unless one of his arrows does something crazy he didn't even look as impressive as Yorknew Killua.
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Found this shota chrollo fanart from 2012
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>>272834868
My problem with the Dark Tournament:
-The format is non-sensical. It's obvious that none of the main cast is going to die or even be incapacitated before the final since it would mean they would fight with an incomplete team. Would that mean that a team that wins but loses half of their team is fucked? It's fucking retarded and way too convenient for the plot that whenever Team Yusuke loses a battle it's always in a way that doesn't kill any of their members. I am not saying you HAVE to kill or discard a member to give the tournament any stakes, but then use a different fucking format that doesn't blatantly reveal that everything until the final has no stakes.
-We basically get no exposure to the rest of the participants. One of the main reasons why tournament arcs are so popular its because they present a natural way to see different characters getting fleshed out by participating in different match-ups, the DC forgoes any of that and it's just Team Yusuke fighting against different opponents in a row in what seems to be a bunch of filler until they can finally fight Toguro. By turning the tournament into essentially a gauntlet you are again confirming that we are basically just going through some obvious motion and robbing us of one of the key elements of a tournament arc, not knowing who will win.
-The anime pacing is way too slow, but that's honestly expected from an anime of the time
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>>272835044
>Low troupe tier meme in 2024
MOVE ON
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>>272833390
Why was chrollo acting like a little bitch in front of these nenlets again?
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>>272834330
They don’t want to destroy the world or mindlessly murder people. The closest to that was when feitan and phinks killed greed island players but that was a place full of people who accepted the risk and were somewhat skilled, and to get their cards.
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>>272835727
>It's obvious that none of the main cast is going to die or even be incapacitated before the final since it would mean they would fight with an incomplete team
That literally happens, retard.
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>>272835402
Sure but I tried to pick something similar in vibe. Guess you could say JoJo if you want the same period. What I meant to say is that YYH gets way more praise than Toriko, guess it's because of the anime tho.
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>>272835727
The reality YYH is that is an old shonen with a likable and entertaining main cast (and main antagonist) that carries interesting but relatively weakly handled ideas.
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>>272835762
>Such a hot piece of ass is dead
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>>272835727
That almost sounds like the Hunter Exam
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>>272835785
Yeah, just before the final and Team Toguro also
conveniently has 4 members that actuall fight lol
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>>272835511
it just means he hasn't peaked.
Unless you're saying that biscuit and abengane are as strong as meruem.
>>272835303
it's a retarded chart but he keeps spamming it, ignore it
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>>272834275
What would be the result of a guy who would dedicate his whole life to train Ten and only Ten?
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>>272835044
Gimmie Pitou
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Gon erotic
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>>272835462
Bumthru can't do shit against Kalluto. He needs to make physical contact with Kalluto and that won't happen because
>kalluto can fight from range
>kalluto has rhythm echo to create clones
Not to mention that Shithru's hatsu is so shit it requires him to use tons of aura on his hands leaving the rest of his body unprotected and vulnarable which Kalluto can easily take adventage by directly attacking with his paper fan (which was shown to be strong enough to cut through steel). Basically Kalluto can easily attack from affar, avoid all damage through clones and just disable dumbthru by cutting off his unprotected arms. Genuinely what could fagthru even do against this?
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>>272834275
I want him to teach me nen
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>>272835956
Let's ask Zushi
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>>272834330
No retard, stop trying to make this the consensus, you need reading comprehension
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YYH was a product of its time, it hasn't aged that well. Still the main cast of YYH shits all over the main cast of HxH.
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>>272835822
I don't think many people would try to argue that Yu Yu Hakusho is a perfect series but it has a classic charm to it and a good amount of style. I don't like comparing it HxH for a variety of reasons but largely because it was made in only a handful of years compared to HxH having decades and years of hiatus to work with (I try not to compare other shonen to HxH for the same reason)
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>>272834634
>t.no reading comprehension
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>>272835700
Chrollo = purest character in the series
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Cuteama
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>>272836033
Killua's sister is so pretty
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>>272835854
Yeah but Hunter Exam wasn't even close to the peak of HxH, meanwhile Dark Tournament is widely seen as the peak of YYH.
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>>272835854
Couldn't be any more different, in the Hunter Exam:
-We get exposure to other participants with their own agendas
-The format does make sense
-By making the different phases different types of tests the whole thing feels fresh and not sale
-The final phase is much more brilliantly executed. By making it a reverse tournament you can realistically expect the different characters to lose. When Gon fights Hanzo, no one really expects him to die, but the fact that what's at stake is not his life but rather passing the exam and that losing is an option makes it a much more hooking experience. Even if he does make it at the end, you are still wondering how he could win against an otherwise superior opponent. Of course the final phase was deliberately atypical, I am not saying that every tournament arc has to be like that. All 3 tournament arcs in DB shit all over the Dark Tournament and they are largely standard in structure. The DC tournament was to me genuinely sleep inducing.
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>>272835511
>Razor is only mid troupe member
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>>272835766
>Why was chrollo acting like a little bitch
because that's what he is
one of the strongest nen users in the world and he gets bullied out of his school lunch table lmfao
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>>272836333
See here for more:
>>272834173
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Who is Hisoka's royal connection?
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The best part of YYH is the beginning before it devolves into a mediocre battle shonen
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>>272836363
Morena or Tyson
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>>272834693
It's better than HxH
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>>272836264
A lot of the early DB tournament arcs feel similar to DC with how you're just waiting for the big name actual fights matchups
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>>272836384
Tyson would be fucking hilarious. I really hope it's her.
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>>272834173
Meds
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>>272836383
Nah it’s early - mid chapter black. The tension was great and Sensui felt very menacing.
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>>272834693
It is, but you won't enjoy it if you go in expecting HxH. That's what happend to me, I only started enjoying YYH once I managed to separate it in my mind from HxH and Togashi.
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>>272836363
>Handsome man who has has to work as a casino dealer
Most definitely Tyson
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>>272834953
That and the toonami retard bias.
It's also why reddit as fuck shit like PPF exists.
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>>272836400
It's different. Imagine if the first DB tournament was just Goku fighting a bunch of fodder for 30 episodes with Jackie Chun telling him every other episode "I will wait for you at the final!". The side-characters fighting in the DB tournaments are what makes it refreshing with the unique combination of different characters interacting and what the Dark Tournament severely lacked since the way it was presented it was essentially a gauntlet
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How does Yoshihiro (author of YYH) feel about Togashi copying all his character designs and story elements? I still can't believe Togashi would just shamelessly copy Yoshihiro like that.
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>>272835988
You don't know shit about power scaling.
For starters:
- Greed Island Killua > Kalluto.
- Greed Island Killua < Sub.
- Sub < Genthru.
- Genthru > Kalluto.
Now for the others:
- Shalnark > Kalluto.
- Shalnark was overwhelmed in speed and one-shot by Hisoka.
- Kastro was said by the narrator (Togashi) that "even with his weakness revealed, Kastro could've still put up a honorable combat against Hisoka".
- Kastro > Shalnark.
- Kastro > Kalluto.
And for Gotoh:
- Hisoka's defense >>> Kalluto's defense.
- Gotoh's coins > Hisoka's defense.
- Gotoh's coins >>> Kalluto's defense.
Kalluto could literally be one-shot by a single Gotoh coin.
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>>272835511
>Razor: Great
>Hisoka: Genius
Hisoka sisters... Razor blows the shit out of our favorite clown and he hasn't even trained seriously...
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>>272836542
>Razor wins
...In volleyball
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>>272836542
WTF are you on about?
And the levels are not relative. Razor is canonically two proficiency levels below Hisoka.
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>>272836593
This volleyball match is the best part of GI.
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>>272836400
>>272836524
Like I am not mad if the big finale of your arc is Yusuke vs Toguro in an epic fight, that's expected, I don't expect you to make a twist at every turn. But if the way you get from your starting point to that final point is a plain straight line you can't expect me to not be bored by it. Specially when it's 40 episodes long.
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>>272836524
I don't really agree with all that but one of my main complaints for DC fights was characters often winning fights by revealing a previously unknown ability, most of Kuramas or Hieis. I personally wouldn't bother comparing DB tournaments to DC because they're not the same type of tournament (solo characters in DB vs actual teams fight in Yu Yu)
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>>272836593
The levels are explicitly based on one's individual potential. It's why Komugi is in genius despite the fact that she has no idea what nen is and simply auto developed a hatsu to improve her skill at gungi.
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what's her name?
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>>272836536
>Greed Island Killua < Sub.
>Kastro > Shalnark.
point and laugh everyone
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>>272836713
>The levels are explicitly based on one's individual potential
Do you know how to read?
It does NOT represent one's innate talent.
Komugi is a Genius because Enhancing your brain, or more specifically your gungi skills, is a very advanced application of Nen, only made possible by her vow to kill herself if she ever lost.
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>>272835936
I was mostly joking but now I wonder how strong peak Razor could be. Or peak Shizuku. Ultimate Deme chan.
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>>272836744
Beyond Beyond Netero
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>>272836445
Yup, chapter black is the best part of YYH by far.
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>>272836803
Strong nen sisters...
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>>272836781
>posted 7 seconds after my request to "point and laugh"
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>>272836363
Depending on whether Togashi intends to keep expanding the roster - potentially another illegitimate child or sibling of Nasubi. Morena and Tserriednich are both different brands of insane. Tyson is the most obvious choice.
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>>272836771
Arguments = 0.
The story literally tells Gon and Killua won against the Bomber despite being weaker because they had a well-laid plan.
Was Shalnark able to put up a honorable combat against Hisoka? Yes or no.
Shalnark couldn't even land an antenna against a regular soldier Ant without getting hurt.
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>>272836803
Ultimate would naturally not be an indicator of potential as it is the individual fully manifested and the pinnacle of their particular application of nen. They cannot push their hatsu beyond that point. That's why it's listed specifically for the Ultimate category but no others.
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>>272834330
No? Dumbass?
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Shalnark didn’t have black voice. If speed was enough Hisoka wouldn’t have been destroyed by Chrollo. I am scared for Hisoka, we’ve seen what even Bono is capable of… With how skilled Kortopi was he had to be practically written out of the story for Hisoka to threaten the troupe at all…
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Zhang Lei won.
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>>272834499
What real sword is literally just flames? It's transmuted retard.
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>>272836899
so how should we nickname this retard that keeps pushing the "kastro is actually super strong" narrative based only on the "honorable combat" line? kastrofag is too obvious... honorfag? Strong Honor fag?
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>>272836981
Bono has said himself multiple times he’d job to Hisoka. Stop falling for FAGGY troupe propaganda
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>>272836981
>If speed was enough Hisoka wouldn’t have been destroyed by Chrollo.
If Hisoka wasn't super fast Chrollo could've simply landed Black Voice on him.
If Hisoka wasn't super fast Chrollo could defeat him now with Fun Fun Cloth, instead of being desperate to find an ability to deal with Hisoka.
His friends are literally worried for him.
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>>272836593
>Razor is canonically two proficiency levels below Hisoka.
and despite this he's still much more powerful
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>>272837034
That worries me even more. Netero said he was only on Morel and Knov’s level but we saw what he did. Beware the humble ones…
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>>272836838
Chapter Black and some of the 3kings stuff is the closest the series gets to feeling like HxH
Dark Tournament has some issues but it has its good points too
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>>272836803
anon... it's about skill not power level.
Do you think abengane is as powerful as meruem?
come on even you can get there
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If Bono was a typical bishy attractive boy like chrollo and hisoka he would be super popular. His hatsu is really cool.
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>>272837097
He's probably right in his assessment simply because his ability actually is an awful matchup for Bungee Gum. He has to dance to conjure items and dancing leaves him open for Gum to applied on him.
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>>272836744
specialist incoming
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>>272837075
>chrollo needed more abilities for hisoka than silva
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>>272837172
It's about skill, but it's not relative.
It's not "Great... for Razor". It's "Great", period.
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>>272835044
Move Kurapika to top spider tier and Feitan to combat masters and it's perfect
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Kalluto solos the Heil-Ly
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>>272837078
toying with kalluto...
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>>272835956
His students wouldn't be able to count to 11
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>>272837282
good one
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>>272835044
>list is filled to the brim with characters we know nothing about strength wise or hatsu wise other than "they have so much potential, man!!!" or "x said he ahd very strong nen!!!11"
into the trash it goes
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>>272836882
Saved
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>>272837013
I'm not the only one who argues in favor of Kastro's strength.
There are other people that, not blinded by spiderfaggotry, or Hisoka Derangement Syndrome, can see that Kastro, despite being a jobber narratively, in-universe was actually pretty strong.
In fact, this only ever starts because of spiderfaggots who are desperate to downplay every opponent Hisoka ever went against to somehow make him look weaker.
Kastro was undefeated and 1 win away from the Floor Master title.
The more you downplay Kastro, the worse it looks for Chrollo, because Chrollo's critical hits to Hisoka's vitals were doing jackshit damage to him, while Kastro was hitting him like a truck and tearing his limbs apart.
In the current Troupe, other than Phinks, everyone is less tanky than Hisoka.
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>>272837218
anon. It's about skill. Think of weight classes.
Or martial arts with colored belts to show how many techniques they have mastered
It's not power levels.
That's the amount of aura that one has.And razor is an absolute monster.
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>>272835044
Franklin slander desu
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I'm still surprised that obvious filler members like Bono and Shizuku managed to outlive the founding members of the troupe. Togashi likes to kill off the more interesting characters first for some reasons.
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>>272834693
Jesus christ you fucking faggot
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>>272836531
I just heard their good friends. So it’s ok!
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>>272837203
Probably true but Bono does show how competent even a weaker member is. On a more serious note, I think Nobunaga will be the one to take out Hisoka. He’s the most vengeance focused one. He also said Hisoka would be a tough opponent for him, but that was when he was supposedly friends with Hisoka and Franklin said Nobunaga was exaggerating. I think that was foreshadowing.
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>>272837406
Shizuku is actually iconic.
Bono is actual filler, but will very likely die soon.
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>>272837406
Paku is interesting because she chose death despite (or rather, because) of her relationship with the rest of the troupe.
Shalnark got the same amount of screentime as Shizuku so him being a founding member doesn't matter much if he didn't get much development.
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>>272837406
Bono in a single chapter became more interesting than Shalnark ever was.
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People keep saying Bono is weak, I always presumed him to be more midtier within the Troupe
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>>272837004
that would be tyson, shes literally doing nothing
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>>272837450
Bonolenov actually got a flashback unlike Shizuku
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>>272837501
People just say Bono is weak because he doesn't have a design as cool as the others. If he looked even bland and generic like Phinks or Shalnark people would be putting him higher, but he looks like a retarded mummy with boxing gloves so he's considered weaker. Rule of cool distorts powerleveling a lot.
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>>272837530
Her story will unfold in the dc arc
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>>272837448
There are only 4 Troupe members with a narrative chance of killing Hisoka:
- Machi (the one with the best shot at it);
- Chrollo (only if they kill each other);
- Illumi;
- Kalluto (as a dark horse).
The others all have negative chance of killing Hisoka. It's more likely Killua would wish Nanika to kill Hisoka than any of them doing so.
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>>272837406
>filler
>shizuku
Tell that to all the women who’ve dressed as shizuku for cosplay and Halloween over the last decade
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>>272837208
the old guy could be emission since his clone in the room
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>>272837501
His arm wrestling placement and design cause that perception for a lot of people. It's also really easy to forget that he was confident he could kill Zazan even after she transformed just like Phinks because it was such a small moment.
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>>272837501
Solid mid-tier, yup.
An ability with mix capabilities of combat and utility.
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If Kurapika had to lick chains to conjure them, did Shizuku have to practice sucking to conjure a vacuum cleaner?
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>>272837450
Shizuku does have a personality at least, unlike Bono. However as a character she doesn't have room to grow, she is just always a quirky aloof girl.
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Chrollo + Hisoka = Sensui + that demon that was gay for him
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>>272833390
what a bunch of ugly fags
>enter
hah, my foot
is aids even curable by nen exorcists?
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It's kind of weird that he's setting up all these characters when we KNOW they're all gonna die the moment they step FOOT on the Dark Continent
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>>272837004
marayam....
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>>272837586
Machi is a maybe but not powerful. Kalluto isn’t a serious consideration for this. Chrollo vs Hisoka 2 is unlikely to happen because it’d be a rerun. Illumi is the second most likely after Nobu. Phinks and Feitan could also be the ones to do it by being with Nobu.
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>>272837639
Machi Genkai
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>>272837689
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>>272837372
>while Kastro was hitting him like a truck and tearing his limbs apart.
if you stopped sucking kastro's dick for a second and reread the actual fight you'd realize how pointless this point is. Every hit Kastro landed on Hisoka, other than the first one (which was just a normal punch), was because Hisoka let him hit. There's nothing impressive about Kastro removing a limb from Hisoka when Hisoka himself put his arm out, unprotected, and literally told him to take the arm.
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>>272837735
Genkai Komacine
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I feel like this retard should've trained hard enough to make a third clone and only fight with the two clones or just use his clone to fight while his real body sits in the audience for risk-free battles but instead he chose to use his real body in combat like a retard. Enhancertard moment I guess, a conjurer who would be suited for a doppelganger ability wouldn't make the same mistake as he did.
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>>272837788
>it doesnt count because he let it happen but showed no capability of stopping it
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>>272833390
When the new chapter spoilers will come?
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I will not allow bonolenov slander in this thread
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Are there any YYH characters that (You) wish would have a HxH counterpart (assuming they don't already)?
For me, it's Chu. We need a drunkchad in HxH
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>>272837815
Chrollo has Suzaku's clone technique in his book
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>>272837841
lmfao I still can't get over the fact that Bonolenov chose one of the gayest outfits possible when disguising as Hisoka, he just had to take the opportunity to make Hisoka look like an even bigger fag, based
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>>272837827
Wednesday is when they should normally come, assuming the arab oil princes don't hoard the leaks again.
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spoilers when
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>>272837827
probably get something in like 36 hours, full chapter maybe like 42+ hours
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If I was a hunter my hatsu would be to create fire and fire based attacks, does that mean I would be a transmuter?
And is creating fire with nen even possible? I assumed it is since Killua can create electricity.
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>>272837942
Bono will be punished by the narrative for his homophobic ways. Like how the Zoldycks couldn't get free wishes from the tranny genie
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>>272838001
2 days it is then?
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>>272837483
The founding members had shared history and their abilities were not comical. They were characters I could take seriously. I'd definitely have Uvo, Paku, Shalnark on the ship over some of the current members.
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>>272837501
retards call him weak because he has little narrative relevance but his abilities put him on the upper tier of PT fighters
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Chrollo finds the ability that can seal Bungee World and kills Hisoka, but before dying Hisoka utters 'O MY TEXTURE NEN' activating post mortem Nen on Texture Surprise and creating his 2nd post mortem Hatsu 'Texture Universe' which allows him to perfectly recreate any type of matter and its properties. When paired with Bungee World he can mold his Nen and recreate ANYTHING, allowing him to escape his death at the hands of Chrollo (bypassing Chrollo's seal on Bungee World with even stronger Nen and recreating his body) as well as his eventual death of old age and making him the most powerful character in the history of fiction.
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>>272837827
Late Wednesday-early Thursday depending on where you live, aka 30+ hours
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>>272838039
>watches faggots
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>>272837501
Who do you consider as low-tier in the troupe then?
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>>272838001
>shits on Netero
why is he so slept on, literally stronget character in the hxh verse
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>>272838016
yes, but you'd have to be trained to resist heat or conjure something that protects you from your own fire
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>>272837841
Makes you wonder how well known the actual individual spiders are in-verse
Like does it have everyones name and bio's on the wiki or is it just general information about the group itself with no names
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>>272838016
You'd be a transmuter like Feitan is yes but it would require you to either have an extremely high resistance to flames like Killua's to electricity or you'd need to conjure something that protects you from the flames like Feitan does with his gimp suit.
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>>272835044
Melody deserves higher
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>>272838016
>If I was a hunter my hatsu would be to create fire and fire based attacks, does that mean I would be a transmuter?
If you give your nen the properties of fire, that would be transmutation.
If you use nen to make real fire, that would be conjuration.
>And is creating fire with nen even possible?
Almost anything is possible with nen. I think Togashi just hasn't made a fire character in HxH because it's such a generic power and he already had a couple of fire guys in YYH, Hiei being one of them which would probably be considered a fire transmuter if he was in HxH
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Is it just me or are the translation for the current batch of chapters dosgshit? feels like esl/mtl. Also what chapter does the boat arc start? I need to re-read.
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>>272838151
340
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>>272838039
Do u think the bungee world youtube-guy is aware of how much shitposting he's spawned here?
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>>272837993
In 5, if they're quick 4.
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>>272838016
Yes, but because Togashi is a hack, he fucked transmitters and so if you want to make anything that could potentially damage yourself , you have to either be
>extrmely reistssnt (most unrealistic option)
>find a way to bypass it through conjuring something
Togashi hates transmiuters the stupid fuck
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>>272838145
more like Korpoopi
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>>272835094
>Nips literally saying "I LOVE ILLUMI", not suki, but literal aisuru, in the niconico segment of this episode
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>>272838103
I would imagine some Spiders would be famous while some wouldn't, Chrollo was a floor master at Heaven's Arena which would probably make his as famous as a UFC fighter in-universe. They would also probably be known among nen-users, organized criminals, and hunters.
But some Spiders probably wouldn't have much information on them probably just because they don't care to disclose anything.
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>>272837882
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>>272838269
Somes fujos have been obsessed with the HxH cast for literal decades at this point
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>>272838079
NTA but the supportive/thieving ability members like Kortopi, Shalnark and Pakunoda. Currently the weakest members are Kalluto, Shizuku and Feitan
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>>272838146
Bill can probably make death seeds and shit like Kurama
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Why do people rate Hisoka so highly when he has never beaten anyone impressive and has suffered the most humiliating, one-sided defeat in the entire series?
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>>272838217
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>>272838103
The flow of information is strange in the hxh world. Existence of nen aside, the mafia had little info on the troupe and didn’t even know they’re from meteor city.
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>>272838287
Palm is fish girl
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>>272837718
We know Chrollo will use new stolen abilities. Maybe Hisoka will have something new too. The stage for the match is different. Hisoka and Chrollo are in completely different mindset now. It may be a rerun but it will work differently because of these factors.
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>>272838314
Kortopi is absolutely broken, he might not be a good 1v1 fighter but being able to conjure over a dozen giant buildings that each act as his En (basically giving him the same coverage as a royal guard) makes him into one of the most skilled nen users we have seen so far.
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>>272838322
he talks big and his ability is very versatile
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>>272834610
The emitter abilities are all the same though.
>aura blast
>aura blast but like a machine gun
>aura blast but like a dragon
All the same.
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>>272838278
Even though Heavens Arena has Chrollo's name, they might not even be aware that he's the leader of the Phantom Troupe
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>>272838391
Enhancer abilities are all the same
>punch hard
>punch hard but rock paper scissors
>punch hard but have to wind up arm
Does that make them any less cool?
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>>272838391
that was before emission also included teleportation like Knov and Luini
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>>272838287
Her lower half looks a lot like Machi
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>>272838426
But anon, Komugi enhances her Gungi skills/brain processing power, and dogman enhances his sense of smell. Not the same.

>>272838429
True, and actually Lynch's ability is emission too. Wonder what else emitters can do.
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>>272838322
Everyone in-universe hypes him. Out-of-universe, he is like the main villain
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>>272838337
But is not the same
>>272838506
Nice catch
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>>272838322
Most people have a soft spot for Hisoka, he's been here since the hunter exam arc and has consistently played a key role in almost every arc since then. It's simply easier to get invested on someone you're already familiar with.
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Conjurer seems like the worst placement on the nen chart, even with 100% proficiency you have to put a lot of effort to conjure something that might not even be better than a non-conjured object without restrictions, on top of that they have only one secondary category (transmutation) which can also be very weak/situational on its own. It seems like as a conjurer you're either relying on a lot of conditions and restrictions or banking on becoming a specialist later, or just using your ability for pure utility.

Manipulators don't have the same issues despite being on the symmetrical to conjurers because manipulation can be plenty strong on its own and its secondary category (emission) is one of the best for combat. If they get put in a bad matchup they can still do DBZ-style nen blasts at the same level as an enhancer can.
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>>272837882
Pitou's yyh counterpart basically confirms girl pitou
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>>272838764
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>>272838736
That's why the effective Conjurers we see are actually smart people, that thought out their abilities really well, while we see stupid Conjurers achieve nothing, like Cheetu.
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>>272838736
conjurers get the most asspull abilities so its balanced around that
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>>272838736
Where would you choose to place conjurers on the chart?
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>>272838736
Conjurers have the benefit of being able to give their conjured items very powerful properties once they put in the adequate training and have the knowledge to do so at least. It's definitely the most sink or swim category though I'd agree because a shit conjurer basically has no chance against any other nen type.
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>>272838736
Conjurer is mostly good because they have the highest chance to become specialist iirc
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>>272835044
Except killua unironically belongs in royal guard tier thou
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>>272838860
Was Chrollo originally a conjuror?
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>>272838813
>stupid Conjurers achieve nothing, like Cheetu
He achieved plenty by stealing my heart
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>>272838903
he cannot ko any of them. he can distract them for a bit.
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>>272834693
It has Togashis magnum opus character (Yusuke) so yes it’s that good
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>>272838736
I think it's easier for Conjurer to make new abilities? People like Kurapika and Bonolenov have so many abilities for no reason.
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>>272838982
Look at this reaction shot kino
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>>272838935
How do you know that youve gone from Conjuror to specialist?
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>>272838952
Are you sure?
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>>272838982
It's crazy how much better Yusuke is compared to gon
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>>272839010
You can have variations on the abilities of the items you conjure but those require numerous restrictions to work like Kurapika and Bono's do. Cheetu meanwhile got his progress boosted by Pouf and even then he fucked up and only made abilities that didn't suit him.
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>>272838998
He had the gay sadness debuff. Straight dudebro Killua mid-diffs Youpi.
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>>272839097
Water test
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>>272839097
Like Kurapika, you do the water divination again.
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>>272835700
ToT
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>>272838935
I doubt it since Togashi probably created the specialist category to shove Chrollo in there in the first place.
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>>272838834
I wouldn't move conjuration but rather swap the placement of specialization and manipulation, then swap manipulation and conjuration, because
1) emission seems like its closer to the reality-breaking power that some specialists have (teleportation and such),
2) conjurers being adjacent to manipulation gives them greater ability to manipulate their conjured objects and vice versa, and
3) conjuration being next to emission means that conjured objects won't get the emission debuff after losing contact with their summoner's body (something the Kurapika briefly mentioned that implies a huge weakness for conjured objects)
Of course this change probably fucks over some of the other nen typings but I'm too lazy to think through all this at the moment.

>>272838935
I think he was since his book is conjured, and it would be another parallel between him and Kurapika
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>>272833390
>Literal who jobbers with godawful designs wearing track suits for the most part
Hunter X Hunter has fallen.
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>>272838903
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>>272838736
Oh ok.
didn't Rihan solo a nen beast? But ok.
didn't Bonolenov summon Jupiter? Ok.
Oh didn't Kortopi copy a whole building district? Alright.
didn't Knuckle btfo a royal guard before he was forced to disable his ability? Sure.
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>>272839097
Someone would probably notice that their conjured items have lost 20% of their effectiveness, same with their enhancement and transmutation (if they are using any).
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>>272839239
Those are all extreme examples that are far above the norm for nen users. Pretty sure anon means getting the category over any other and then having to train it yourself.
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>>272839127
Thing is those abilities don't have anything in common so we can't say it's just variations. Kurapika can do pretty much everything.
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>>272837841
>your fav spider
Bono was always my fav
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>>272839295
Nah that's just conjurer intellectual things. I don't expect you to understand..
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>>272839214
But enough about Phinks
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>>272839239
>didn't Rihan solo a nen beast?
He did after thinking about it for a few days. Predator might not be as useful in a situation where he can't just sit still and ponder like Plato.
>didn't Bonolenov summon Jupiter?
He did after doing a ritual and its only useful for squashing people (or ants) like bugs. If his ritual gets disrupted or if the target and move from the squash zone, it's useless.
>Oh didn't Kortopi copy a whole building district?
Kortopi is the biggest bullshit character in the entire manga, conjuring objects is supposed to be something that requires lots of training but he's somehow able to clone a fuckton of shit effortlessly.
>didn't Knuckle btfo a royal guard before he was forced to disable his ability?
I can't refute that, Knuckle is a good example of a conjurer that made a really strong ability and his is one of my favorite in the entire manga.
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>>272838935
>>272839211
What you retards misunderstand is that Specialists rely a lot on Conjuring and Manipulation.
Pitou? Most of her powers are Conjuring or Manipulation based, Chrollo Conjures his book, Neon uses a Conjured Nen beast, same as Tse, I think even Pakunoda Conjured her bullets.
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>>272839428
The potency of stolen abilities from different categories that are used from the book seems like it could be a little confusing. I think the initial impression is that anything used from the book will work at 100% capacity but that might not actually be the case if he's using a stolen emission ability
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>>272839214
Wait till you meet the maids and queens servants
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>>272833390
ENTER
The succession war arc's shadow beasts!
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>>272839574
Rabid Dog solos all of them btw
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>>272839395
I already gave proof of conjurers wrecking, so how is it fair to invalidate that with "but ifs"?
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>>272839519
Speaking of, can Benjamin use his soldiers' abilities with 100% potency, or according to his affinity?
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>>272838001
Good design.
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>>272835044
Where's worm?
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>>272839519
Given that almost all of the abilities we've seen Chrollo use are either conjuration or manipulation based, I think the efficiency of the stolen abilities relies on Chrollo's proficiency.
But abilities from other categories just might not be worth stealing, no point in stealing the 200th variant of "punch hard" from enhancer #2491 or some transmuter's specific personalized ability that only have enough understanding to use to its fullest.
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>>272834844
What the hell was that dodgeball made of? It took Ko-infused pounding after pounding and still stuck together.
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>>272839646
Chrollo certainly seemed to want to steal Zeno/Silvas shit tbf, but I think he decided to try and do that before even learning Zeno's category
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>>272839574
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>>272839651
The court Enhanced the ball, Killua explained it.
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>>272839702
Morena will molest them so hard
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>fapped to komugi again
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>>272839395
Fair point about Rihan. However, should we evaluate abilities based on their 1 v 1 battle potential when abilities can have so many uses? Even battles are rarely duels.
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>>272839702
Morena will rape Momolly
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>>272839748
Be normal and fap to Killua like the rest of us, freak.
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Cammy!
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>>272839775
At least Komugis an adult sickooo
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>>272839748
Imagine the sloppies
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>>272839798
>But your honor, Cammy did have breakfast this morning.
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>>272839798
The fact that Cammy manages to be the stupidest Hui Go Rou sibling is an achievement in and of itself when SaleSale and Tyson exist
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>>272839831
Yes but-
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>>272834844
He severed Bungee Gum himself. He doesn't have the physical power to overpower that beast (Bungee Gum doesn't create energy on its own, he needs tension on the rubber).
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>>272839775
This. Although i prefer fapping to Gon a little bit more myself.
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>>272839633
Aside from maybe Knuckle who was the closest to defeating a royal guard, none of the conjurers could wreck someone as hard as an enhancer without using a lot of prep/conditions. Take Bonolenov's Jupiter for example, Uvogin, Phinks, or Gon could basically get the same effect by just using their punching hatsu and it would be a lot quicker with a lot less setup. They could also probably just punch Sale-Sale or his nen beast really hard if the point of the succession war wasn't to be subtle. Conjuration just takes so much more effort to do something equivalent to what enhancement could do, and its placement on the chart compared to other categories makes it weaker comparatively when looking at nen as a whole.

>>272839756
We don't actually see that many team battles in HxH. I think a conjurer could be incredibly powerful in a team setting for support but since this is a shounen most of the fights have to be 1v1 for honorable dueling kino. The closest we see is the troupe working together outside of combat.
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>>272839748
Blind girls are great. Abusing them is fun
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>>272839887
It's still ridiculous that Hisoka could lose at a tug of war with some random nen beast, considering his strength. Razor's Devils must only work on a dodgeball court or have some other crazy restriction.
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>fapped to the chapter black tape again
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>>272839947
I can't imagine Chrollo ever being horny
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>>272839947
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>>272839955
He probably fapped to sarada's snuff tape once it got uploaded to the net
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>>272839947
What was the worst thing they did to her?
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>>272839798
Hisoka asked her out to dinner and she said yes
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>>272839938
It's possible being a GM on Greed Island grants a buff (doubt it though). But nen beasts can easily have super strength + Hisoka isn't an enhancer so it's not like he's going to be that strong against real phys-specced nen.
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>>272840032
Razor is supposed to be imprisoned on GI, I think being unable to leave an island under the pretense of death would be a condition for some pretty powerful nen.
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>>272840032
Hisoka is absolutely strong though. His fighting style is close quarters.
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>>272839748
How? Not enough good fanart. This one seems ooc she shouldn't have model proportions
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>>272840121
komugi's body is like THAT? ZAMN
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>>272840032
Creating a nen beast that is stronger than anyone who isn't an enhancer is really impressive.
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>>272840121
>>272840139
she's an enhancer, of course she would have a hot bod
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Gon and Killua would have already beat the heil-ly
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Do you think Oito will show up with a Hatsu at some point, or is the timeframe just too short for her to awaken one?
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>>272840121
That looks about right
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>>272840205
feetsies
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>>272840121
Can't Pitou heal her eyes and sinuses?
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Could Angel's Breath fix Gon post san?
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>>272840196
Oito IS the hatsu (she's actually Woble's GSB)
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>>272840218
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>hunterdle.org
Took me a few tries to get it right, I'm fucking washed
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>>272839909
Alright, it's true a punch hatsu can do damage equivalent to Jupiter ( raw damage, without taking into account other possible properties of Jupiter like gravity.)

And I see your evaluation of categories based on 1v1 battles. However:
>this is a shounen most of the fights have to be 1v1 for honorable dueling kino
>The closest we see is the troupe working together outside of combat.
there are certainly 1v1s in Hunter a fair bit of group fights too. vs youpi, vs heil-ly (Hinrigh is a conjurer too) Hisoka vs hunters..
that, combined with the fact that this major arc focuses on utility abilities.
Makes me evaluate the categories differently.
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>>272840256
I got it in two tries. Maybe because I used Morel as my first guess, he always seems to get me good info
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>>272840193
Gon would be stuck in a loop unable to figure out the gimmick of the room trap.
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Today feels like it should be Wednesday already.
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>>272840219
Pitou forgot
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>>272840422
It still feels like Sunday to me for some reason but that might be because I didn't have to do anything on Monday or Today
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>>272840354
Gon is smarter than people give him credit for he's just dumb when it comes to math
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>>272840066
He is strong compared to non-enhancers but something specializing in strength should still be enough to stop him (whether it be an enhancer or something emitted/conjured to have high power).
>>272840156
Yeah Razor is obviously extremely impressive/powerful.
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>>272839938
or he's just insanely strong. Netero, ging, royal guards level.
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>Be Furykov
>Be convinced you can see Nen like the back of your hands
>Get fooled by a false assassin
>Be Babimyna
>...
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>>272840607
I'm waiting for him to finally say or do something important this batch.
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>>272836536
you have to be retarded to use powerscaling in that way. I'm going to do the same as you:
- Leorio attack > Ging speed (he couldn't dodge his attack)
- Ging > Netero (as per his own admission)
- Leorio > or = Netero in speed
see how dumb this shit is? your post is not much better than that
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I need to know who is Silent Majority
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>>272840830
>he hasn't figured it out yet
kek everyone laugh at this brainlet
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>>272840830
Belerainte
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>>272840256
Oddly relevant to today's thread
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>>272838322
Considering he allowed Chrollo as much prep time as he wanted and he had to fight a whole arena of suicide bomber puppets, I'd say Hisoka actually did very well in his fight with Chrollo.
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>>272840883
that's Hisoka
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>>272840830
Kacho's less ugly ex maid
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>>272840906
>lands 1 (one) hit on Chrollo
Even Gon did better against Hanzo
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>>272840219
She was born blind, she can only restore not fix birth defects
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>>272840830
Yuri
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>>272840219
And ruin her appeal??
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>>272840546
He probably just has a massive aura reserve similar to Morel. That's why his Ko didn't just send Hisoka flying because he retrieved in seven No. 13's worth of aura.
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why do clownfags say that chrollo cheated assuming he actually had outside help (he didn't) but don't say that kastro cheated despite the fight with him basically being a 2v1?
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>>272840986
>>lands 1 (one) hit on Chrollo
And Chrollo planned that to happen
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>>272836744
>>272840830
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>>272841113
Kastro was just there to show ineffective Hatsu in combat and get owned
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>>272841113
Curious what Hisoka's strategy for this fight would be if he didn't have Machi there to fix him afterwards
Paying her 70million$ post-fight seems a little cheaterish
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>>272840986
That's one hit more than anyone else except the absolute S tiers would be able to land. Hisoka is superhuman for not instantly crumbling under those circumstances.
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>>272841165
>Kastro was just there to show ineffective Hatsu in combat and get owned
just like hisoka in the chrollo fight?
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>>272841170
he probably deliberately lost his arms just so he had an excuse to see machi
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>>272841203
Unironically, who could survive the Chrollo bombing aside from Uvogin?
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>>272841203
Hisoka didn't lose the Chrollo fight because of his Hatsu shitposter-kun, he lost because he let Chrollo have every advantage he could have ever asked for.
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>>272841231
Franklin
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>>272841203
Name one living character that could survive Chrollo spending a year+ handpicking 5 hatsu specifically to counter you in a specific location.
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>>272841231
Morel via creating a smoke dome that puppets couldn't penetrate
Killua via escaping the arena fast enough with God Speed
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>>272841203
Hisoka ended up so mind broken by Chrollo's puppets that he no longer likes "orgies"
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>>272841231
Bonolenov.
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>>272841225
anta baka
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I want to suck on Gon's delicious little nipples
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>>272841236
Low quality meme, but that's it pretty much. Fraudrollo ran away from the fight after getting his nen unsealed. Came back like a year later with a cheese-strat
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>>272841312
Against Morel Chrollo would have picked 5 other hatsu.
Unironically he'd probably take Blinky from Shizuku to suck up all the smoke.
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>>272841231
A better question is who couldn't.
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>>272841498
Shizuku cannot suck up Nen, she couldn't suck up the ants spider webs.
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Chrollo is the Batman of Hunter antagonist, Hisoka is the Superman, and that’s why Hisoka will win
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>>272841498
She can't suck up nen though.
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>>272841203
>so used to fighting fodder and children you get cheesed like a dark souls boss with bad AI by the one strong guy you face
grim desu
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>>272841546
>>272841562
Yeah, true, I forgot that. Though, isn't his smoke partly physical? If it was purely nen smoke, normal people would be unable to see it.
Regardless, the point stands, hed use a different strategy against Morel.
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>>272833390
Holy shit. After all, these jobbers could be something more...
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>>272841585
>AIIIEEEE I STILL NEED MORE ABILITIES AND PREP-TIME OR I CANT WIN
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>>272841776
Why does he need an ability to kill him for good? Just cut off his head after beating him.
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>>272841805
*bungee gums it back on*
What now bitch?
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>>272841805
he thinks texture surprise can regenerate body parts or some shit
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>>272841805
I think he needs it for beating him
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>>272841776
During the fight in Heaven's Arena he said he was going for style points. How badly do you think he curbstomp Hisoka if he actually was serious about it?
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>>272841805
>O' my rubber nen, when I die shoot Bungee Gum from my head stump and reattach my decapitated head bringing me back to life.
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>>272841231
>Uvogin
no way, just because he can tank a rocket launcher doesn't mean he can tank over 100 repeated explosions. Unironically the only ones I can see genuinely tanking all of those explosions are Meruem and maybe Youpi. I think even Pitou and Pouf wouldn't be capable to tank all of them head on.
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>>272841805
Have you faggots not realized? Chrolllo isn’t confident he can beat Hisoka without the perfect plan: this isn’t to make sure “he’s dead” per se, it’s to make sure Chrollo can win.
Chrollo is all about the odds.
I’d say minimum it’s 70 Hisoka 30 Chrollo for win potential, Chrollo needs the ability to at least bring it to 50 50
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>>272841848
japanese fag fucked up, the morena goon that died was padille not perigold.
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>>272841872
He'd get shit on and he knows it
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Clownfag copecanon is always entertaining to read
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>>272841907
Sorry but that explosion was only slightly bigger than the rocket launcher explosion, Uvo would definitely survive that.
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I could tank this btw
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>>272842002
Bisky-sama.....
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Hisokeks be like
>nooo but Menchi said the pigs are super strong and dangerous! they are mid to low royal guard tier!
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>>272842002
Franklin would destroy this setup by the way. Any long distance fighter would’ve murdered Chrollo in this fight. Even Gotoh.
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So from all this abilities only Sun & Moon stayed in Chrollo's book after user died?
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>>272841734
never noticed the eyeball before...or maybe I did and just didn't really think about it
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>>272842059
We don’t know yet. Shalnarks may have stayed.
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Which nen group has the best sex?
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>>272842082
Shalnark is goat then
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So we’ll be done with all the setup by Hakka funeral right? We won’t be back to any boring nen classes and bodyguard intel buildup , right?
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>>272842002
Netero would easily survive that btw
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>>272842049
If you don't know the weak spot they're legit invincible.
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>>272842112
Obviously manipulators
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>>272842112
Enhancers can go all night.
Transmuters have infinite lube
Conjurers can conjure some freaky toys
Manipulators can just give you orgasms
Emitters have nothing going for them here desu
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>>272842059
Order Stamp's user also is dead
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>>272842112
Manipulation and it's not even close. They also have the best masturbation.
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>>272842170
emitters can pump you full of nen ;-)
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>>272842112
tfw no sex
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>>272841286
>Name one living character that could survive Chrollo spending a year+ handpicking 5 hatsu specifically to counter you in a specific location.
Kurapika easily, also maybe Biscuit just because she's the closest living human to being Netero-tier so she would win by virtue of STRONG NEN and being a skilled fighter
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>>272841848
Lynchbros...
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>>272842234
Botobai, Beyond, Zeno, and Ging bends over and fucks Bisky
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The clown has had an important role in more arcs than any other character, even Gon. He is the protagonist of Hunter x Hunter. Deal with it.
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>>272842300
Hisoka is the Superman of Hunter
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>>272842112
Enhancer can probably enhance everything relating to sex and sexual pleasures, that means fucking harder and getting stronger orgasms. They're definitely the best at fucking.

I don't think manipulators can give better sex like other anons are saying because the only thing they can really do is control people and objects. They probably have the best sex for themselves by turning other people into sex slaves, but actually having sex with a manipulator probably wouldn't be much of anything special.

Transmuters and Conjurers could probably do some crazy sex shit by summoning or transmuting their nen into some supernaturally pleasurable things but that might be too abstract or mystical. Transmuters do seem like the horny and freaky type so they might just be a good fuck because of that.
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What do you guys reckon are the conditions Chrollo set for his bookmark hatsu
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>>272842364
>t.hisoka
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>>272842374
There are none, it's just an evolution of Skill Hunter
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Does Youpi actually transmute the emotion of rage into aura?
We don't see many transmutation abilities that can do something similar. Even Pain Packer could simply be a condition rather than transmuting the feeling of pain.
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>>272842414
Wrong, Chrollo said he had new restrictions to deal with
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>>272836744
isn't she gateume or something like that
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>>272841971
>I can suvive a single punch to the face, so that means I can tank 100 non stop punches to the face
anon it doesn't work like that
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>>272842374
He has to yap about the abilities he's using
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>>272841848
That chart should add that Tserriednich wants to kill Morena too.
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So who exactly do you bargain with when setting up restrictions and what not? Who is approving "hey I have x condition, therefor my ability is 20x more powerful" and what not?
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>>272842374
Knowing Togashi, it will be some kind-of parallel or opposite of Kurapika's emperor time restriction. I'd think about it more specific if i wasn't lazy rn
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>>272842253
I think you are really underestimating Bisky. She is shown to have Netero-level mastery of her category and is one of the strongest characters physically on top of being a skilled and experienced martial artist. She probably trained under or alongside Netero.
Unless you mean
>bends over and fucks Bisky
literally, in which case still no, she only likes handsome playboys like Hisoka and not gross old men.
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>>272842374
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>>272842504
Your own heart knows if you're being a pussy with your restrictions.
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>>272842414
>>272842445
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>>272842504
The devil, who else?
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Anyone else feels killua it's a different character in the 1999 anime version?
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>>272842504
There isn't some higher entity you're bargaining with, you just know if your condition is meaningful to you
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>>272842517
Abengane just casually being the greatest conjurer to ever live.
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>>272842555
It's pretty obvious it's the yapping if you compare to his fight with Silva and Zeno where he is pretty much silent
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>>272842504
it's vibes-based. if you genuinely think its a strong restriction/condition, then it probably is
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>>272842504
Yourself anon.
With Nen you cannot lie to yourself, or your Nen will be weak.
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>>272842542
>>272842596
So you could cheat the system by being manipulated to believe your baby condition is actually meaningful and hard? Nah. It's Satan.
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>>272837815
dude could have been Uvo tier if he didn't rely on over-costly tricks
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>>272842608
Explaining his abilities in detail to mislead Hisoka was a big part of Chrollo's strategy
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>>272842627
What If I self-manipulate into lying to myself and get a better restricton without any drawbacks?
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If it's really based on your own perception, then shouldn't every schizo be an insanely powerful nen user? It's like this bitch.
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>>272842665
That makes absolutely no sense.
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>>272842666
Most of the powerful nen users we've seen are unhinged to some degree
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Everyone who consciously uses nen will go to hell when they die btw
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Nen should have a "rule of cool" where even if your ability is shit or in your weak categories, it should be stronger if it's just really fucking cool. This way hatsu like Kastro's doppelganger tiger bite fist could be viable.
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>>272842504
It's all based on the user's willpower and mentality. The condition/ restriction has to be something that makes user genuinely feel like they're imposing something costly to them.
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>>272842720
Honestly worth it
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>>272842727
It does, see Franklin
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>>272842666
Yes anon, Meruem theorized Netero was on the verge of madness for doing what he did.
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>>272834052
razor is so cool
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>>272842604
I mean he was able to conjure his disguise and ton of other random items. Even excluding his powerful exorcism abilities he does seem to be the most technically skilled conjurer since normal people would have to train for months to conjure a normal thing.
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>>272838736
Basically if you're a conjurer then make a magical nen beast or go home.
It's the only real advantage they have over other categories.
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>>272842727
Again, yes. That is how it fucking works.
If you feel a strong connection with what you are doing, that will make your Nen stronger.
Shoot literally covered his eye in the middle of a fight, for no reason other than just because it felt right.
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>>272842768
but clearly it doesn't since Kastro was still a jobber, Franklin's thing is a just an ordinary restriction
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>>272842816
>Shoot literally covered his eye in the middle of a fight, for no reason other than just because it felt right
This is just an ordinary restriction and his ability was already pretty fucking cool without it
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>>272842775
Imagine being Tzesguerra or Goreinu here and seeing Gon set the raid difficulty to Hardcore
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>>272842666
Correct but then you also need the ingenuity to craft a strong ability
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>>272842727
>>272842816
Chrollo also mentions this, that style is more important than the outcome.
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>>272842787
I said it in a past thread but I like to imagine there's an unwritten rule forbids killing nen exorcists because it would really be a dick move knowing their scarcity. Not to mention how much money they make for exorcising
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>>272842816
Whenever I try to think of what my own hatsu would be, I always try to think of something that sounds appealing to me on top of being objectively useful.
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>>272842816
>Shoot literally covered his eye in the middle of a fight, for no reason other than just because it felt right.
This is unironically one of my favorite scenes in the series, Shoot is a based as fuck chuunibro
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>>272842170
>be me, emitter chad
>at work, get from my loving wife
>"honey I'm super horny rn"
>smile, this was all according to your keikaku
>"don't worry my love, I left a portal inside your panties this morning"
>create another portal in your own underwear
>pass you member through it, exiting it into the portal inside your wife's panties
>pleasure yourself and your partner from anywhere at any time
and that's how an emitter chad thinks
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>>272842727
Honestly his Hatsu wasn't even the problem, after all he genuinely did a lot of damage on Hisoka, the problem is that he overelied on the doppelganger gimmick despite the fact he wouldn't be able to summon a truly convincing copy because of the limitations and bad affinities, he should have improved his Tiger Bjte Hatsu and used his doppelganger only once to help guarantee a decisive blow with a powered up Tiger Bite.
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>>272842906
Rule or not, it would be retarded to kill an exorcist in almost any circumstance when you could make use of them someday so it's not likely to happen often
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>>272842608
What if he just wanted to talk to Hyskoa ;w;
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>>272842906
Do you think Chrollo stole his shit after the exorcism?
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>>272834173
>
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>>272842950
If Chrollo got cursed and forced into zetsu again, stealing the ability would have been pointless since he wouldn't be able to use it on himself.
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>>272842666
it's about how dedicated and motivate you are. The stronger your conviction the stronger your nen is. That's the point of restrictions and vows. You can only make them if you have conviction and stricter restrictions require more motivation.
> It's like this bitch.
it's not the perception of how strong your power is, it's your perception of how great a sacrifice you're making. Giving up sex is a different restriction for an ugly virgin and a horny chad.
But if for instance you hate someone so much that you're be willing to die to kill them then you might die and cast an incredibly powerful curse at the same time
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>>272842604
Other exorcists would probably have the same ranking if they were rated on it. Nen exocism is just that rare/complex of an ability.
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>>272842930
I so want to see a more confident Shoot riding around on his hands and kicking ass again someday.
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>>272842934
*get a call from your loving wife
the cross that all emitter chads have to bear is that we are too rash nail our posts our the first try
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Which morena goon (or morena herself) will kill a prince and earn that sweet exp?
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>>272842651
>>272842608
There is no additional restriction and there was no "misleading information" strategy. He legitimately wanted to let Hisoka know what he was getting into. Even right after Hisoka's betrayal, Chrollo was amicable towards him, and seems to hold some sort of sentimentality just for Hisoka being part of the group for a short while. He made sure to avoid fighting until he had every conceivable asset he could come up with to put the fight into his control and, having that (pretty well founded) confidence that he would win, gave Hisoka enough of a taste to see if he really wanted to follow through. Chrollo seemed sincere about letting Hisoka back down, and Hisoka's refusal didn't shake him so it wasn't just a ploy to avoid fighting. I think it's fairly obvious that he also wanted to give Hisoka the fight that he wanted, as long there was no substantial risk.

That's why the "Humans are so very... Interesting." line follows. This statement was actually meant to exemplify Chrollo's admiration for people who try to defy the inevitable. From Chrollo's perspective, Chrollo knows that Hisoka's going to die, but he sees Hisoka press on anyway, refusing to give in to what Chrollo knows is a certain fate.
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>>272842950
>stealing from a black guy
Would be pretty funny but I doubt that. He likely got paid what he was promised upon getting rid of the chain restriction
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>>272842981
Good point.
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>>272843007
>another two typos
I fucking give up man
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>>272843013
The answer is obvious.
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>>272842941
unless you have the power of cursing others and really don't want anyone to remove them
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>>272842934
>Chad tier
Enhancer, Emitter
>Pretty based tier
Transmutator
>Cringe tier
Conjurer
>Mental Illness tier
Manipulator, Specialist
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>>272843048
God I love him.
I would not be an Enhancer myself but Enhancers are just so cool to me.
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>>272843048
Do you think he can smell the milk in her tits?
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Is something like parasitic nen possible?
I know there are the guardian spirit beasts, but they're allies that consume the user's own aura.
I mean would it be possible to summon a parasitic harmful nen beast that subsists off of the target's nen instead of the user's.
I don't think APR counts since it deactivates when far enough away from Knuckle.
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>>272843013
someone unexpected that looks like forgettable fodder
or that cool girl with the white bang
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nen is the best power system because it prompts all of these cool questions
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>>272843078
take a look at that picture again anon, she ain't got no tits, best she got are a-cups.
there's no milk to smell
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Beyond is a transmuter because he is evil
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>>272843080
Anon, Bill literally says it outright.
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>>272842239
it's not fair
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>>272843080
With enough conditions I imagine it's totally possible.
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>>272843094
I agree
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>>272843064
>Mental Illness tier
>Manipulator
kill yourself, now
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>>272842950
Stealing his ability would be too many variables that Chrollo very likely wouldn't want to risk
>Would the nen beast created from the exorcism now be connected to Chrollo?
>Would it make the exorcism null and void then placing Judgement Chain back on Chrollo?
I can't see him being willing to risk it.
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>>272843048
It's basically confirmed he gonna kidnap one of tse dumbass friends right
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>>272843055
Plot twist: Those missing hunters all secretly had exorcism abilities and Pariston has been exterminating them for Beyond
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>>272843137
He's normal. He's not into hags.
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>>272843152
>Telling others to kts
My point proven
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>>272843064
It doesn't matter if manipulators aren't chad since they can easily make anyone fuck them.
Also most transmuters seem fucked in the head (Feitan, Bisky, Hisoka) so they should be put in mental illness tier.

>>272843137
Bisky always hides her true power level
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>>272843078
Yes, and the SHIT in her COLON
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>>272842194
No? The whole point of Chrollo's strategy is that Order Stamp and Gallery Fake could only continue to operate after he started flipping pages because The Sun and the Moon was applied to the clones, and because The Sun and the Moon is a postmortem Nen ability it kept the other two abilities around too out of necessity for it to work.

The thing with Order Stamp is that it can only control inanimate objects, and the previous owner didn't consider dead bodies to be "inanimate", just dead people. So for Chrollo to make it work he had to use Gallery Fake to clone a person, then control that. A copy is a "puppet", and thus inanimate.
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>>272843212
>can't even type kys
typical retarded enhancer
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>>272843211
>stable genius
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If i was Bonolenov i would disguise myself as Gon and have normal sex with Hisoka
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>>272843229
Being Dogman is ruff.
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>>272843137
Binolt needed to eat her hair and gain her full specs to see it. It seems like it's literally impossible to naturally tell how strong Bisky truly is while she's in her loli form.
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>>272843246
Yes, that's mental Illness behavior, typical of a m*nipulator
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If i was Bonolenov i would disguise myself as benjamin and have normal sex with cammy
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Fugetsu was being followed by ''low-level spirits that attack people in a weakened state'', apparently unrelated to anyone's spirit beast or ability. Meaning, they are either actual ghosts, or more likely, nen residues of different people that have nucleated into quazi-personalities, tethered by a common emotional charge, like pain. Suppose i'm correct - what does this extrapolate to, when one considers the collective psychic activity of humanity, across thousands of generations? Heaven, hell, angels, demons, etc., could all be real in the world of HxH.
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Our heroes.
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>>272843137
Even if he couldn't tell the power level, literal next page he postulates she's transforming herself and saying she has the same smell as him.
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>>272843348
Why is a p*dophile your hero Anon?
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>>272843314
>Heaven, hell, angels, demons, etc., could all be real in the world of HxH

Very likely the concepts of those exist at the very least, since the sonata that affected Melody is rumored to have been composed by the devil himself
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>>272843348
Our four protagonists... and the comic relief side character that punched Ging once...
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>>272843314
They are, and Uvogin went to heaven
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>>272843378
Leorio is a teenager despite how he looks.
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>>272843348
You call *THAT* heroes?
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>>272843348
and le*rio
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>>272843314
One of the Greed Island cards could only be possible if there's life after death, so that's something to consider
https://hunterxhunter.fandom.com/wiki/Double_Postcard_to_the_Dead_(G.I_card)
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>>272843152
Morel gets a free pass but it's a gay category.
Knuckle is also the only chad conjurer.
Basically being willing to actually throw hands elevates you from your category.
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>>272838952
He could kill that shitter Pouf
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>>272835044
Kurapika,Machi should be up a tier, also the jobbers from the Chimera arc should be down a tier.
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>>272842812
Conjure a nen beast that can envelop you like a symbiote, for close quarters combat, or operate independently. If you're on the artistic side, make it so that if you feed it a drawing you made, it can temporarily copy what's drawn(with limitations). There's your versatile conjurer.
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>>272843359
>trans-formation type
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>>272843048
I wonder where Morena got that gaming chair
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>>272842170
Manipulators can't give anyone orgasms but can manipulate their disappointed partner into telling everyone they're great in bed afterwards.
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>>272843430
But could he kill all 10,000 Poufs?
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I will ask this again.
What the fuck were those jellies and the worm? Fuugetsu's wormhole? Camilla's beast titties? Wobble?
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>>272843048
Who does he look like under the mask?
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>>272843458
Drones. The Heil-ly play vidya when they're not busy chopping up people or thinking about pigeons
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>>272843476
Forgot the pic
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>>272839395
>Kortopi is the biggest bullshit character in the entire manga, conjuring objects is supposed to be something that requires lots of training but he's somehow able to clone a fuckton of shit effortlessly
nah, cloning a fuckton of shit is ALL he is good at
gallery fake is very impressive the dude couldn't defend himself at all and it made him an easy target for Hisoka
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>>272843458
Probably from Razor
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>>272843507
>worm
fuu
>jellyfish
either related to camilla or luzurus
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>>272843476
>>272843507
The worm is Fuu-chan's, I think.
The jellyfish seem related to Camilla's since it looks like sea anaemanonaenae (that things from Finding Nemo).
I don't think Woble's nen beast will be revealed until some sort of climax, maybe as a way to save Kurapika or something.
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>>272843476
>jellies
Camilla
>worm
Fugetsu
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>>272843507
Nasubi's GSB could also be poking around? IIRC his and little Cammy actually have a bit of similarity
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>>272843582
>jellyfish
Wobble I guess
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>>272843591
>Cammy is into inverted nipples
Not my thing but each to their own
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>>272843507
Never thought about it before but the worm being how fugetsu's looks makes a lot of sense.
Maybe Togashi decided to make it cuter in the final design as a playground door instead of a lamprey.
The jellies would make sense to be camilla's since they match the nautical theme of the anemone, but because she's overconfident in her kitty cat vore monster the beast hasn't had any reason to do anything yet.
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>>272843582
The portal ability of Fuu/Kacho's nen beast is literally called "magic worm" so the fleshlight might be theirs.
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>>272843591
This is my absolute favourite GSB design. It's such a shame she's always in Zetsu.
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>>272840256
ROFL
They really need to add characters from other arcs, it seems like half if the time its either an ant or a zodiac
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>>272843628
I assume the worm is invisible at this point right?
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>>272843591
Her eyebrows look a lot like Salkov's, Theta's and Longhi's. Maybe that's just the way Togashi is drawing eyebrows this arc or maybe it could mean something else...
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>>272843591
It would be cute if the jellyfish drilled into those nipple slots and that was there home
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>>272843678
We, Cammy does have that characteristic "Netero insanity"
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>>272843671
yeah seems so, at least from the outside
It wouldn't be a very useful ability if everyone could see a big worm connecting the points Fufu is traveling to.
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>>272843754
I feel like any beast that's had its ability described through narration is a jobber.
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>>272843403
>Hisoka next chapter
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>>272837718
>Nobu. Phinks and Feitan could also be the ones to do it by being with Nobu.
I'm not calling you illiterate, but with any media literacy, this page pretty much ends any possibility of Phink's group being able to do it.
The Troupe is not in a narrative position where everything will go according to their best case scenario.
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>bring me Nobunaga Hazama
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>>272837788
Kastro took the arm Hisoka didn't want to. It wasn't handed to him.
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>>272840256
oh fuck off we DO know this guy's nen type
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>Nobu is the weakes-ACK
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>>272843808
I hate it when the only reason someone dies is because they get cocky toying with their opponent who is the only one with the balls to got for the killshot.
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>>272843591
Cammy's cammys
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>>272843778
Bengods, we've got this.
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>>272840986
Two, actually.
>>272841148
No he didn't. He adapted after he was hit, but being hit wasn't accounted for.
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>>272843778
Benjaminchads... we're going to win this
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>>272843916
It's gonna be time travel
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>>272843614
They're uncircumcised shota penises
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>>272840685
Ging let Leorio hit him on purpose, speedy.
There, your entire argument crumbled.
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>>272843946
If true it's name is definitely going to allude to Big Ben.
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>>272843826
Isn't the monkey man 100% a conjurer too?
Maybe it's because you're using the anime version and we only officialy find out their abilities in the succession war arc?
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>>272843826
Can the rat guy beat Nobunaga in a sword fight?
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>>272842052
Franklin would've jobbed to Black Voice alone.
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>>272843946
The moment Benjamin dies the beast turns the clock back to day 1 and we have to sit through another 50 chapters of this nonsense
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>>272844002
Yes, Sayu uses Conjured monkeys.
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>>272844002
nah, i am using the full version and it still shows up as unknown >>272843670
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>>272842666
That's the thing: Nen is fundamentally different than Frieren's magic.
It doesn't work like that.
Your Nen is as powerful as the amount of life energy you can harness and use at once.
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>>272843946
Wrong. His beast goes berserk after MARTIAL LAW has been established.
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>>272843946
>>272843980
Wouldn't be surprised. We already got the king crimson ability, might as well have the world
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>>272844090
Those monkeys sound super OP. He also has a magic stick on top of them too.
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>>272843916
Why'd it scream at poor little foofoo?
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>>272844121
you're thinking of mandom, the world is time stop not travel
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The next king of Kakin and her sister-wife.
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>>272844150
Would be funny if we get a character whose abilities are all based off classic proverbs.
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>>272844214
Is Halkenburg's arrow a reference to Polnareff?
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>>272844206
It wasn't screaming at her, it was screaming at the ghosts possessing her and made them go away. Benjamin is a good aniki who protects his younger sisters.
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>>272844206
He screamed at the ghosts plaguing his host's little sister.
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>>272844214
Ah I must have misread the original post. Point still stands desu, I had Mndem in mind as well
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>>272844255
That's my wife Nencho
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>>272844255
>>272844304
Wait, are the other Princes able to see Kacho's ghost? Isn't that a restriction?
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>>272844304
When did Kurapika get on the cover of a magazine
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Why does Kacho feel like a -san and Fuugetsu feel like a -chan despite them both being the same age?
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We Fuuchads love our Kachobros
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>>272844401
Kacho is the 10th prince Fuu is the 11th
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>>272844336
They think she's dead apart from Fuu. It probably only works with her.
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>>272844449
Curious to see what will happen when Fuu finally finds out, it will probably be her endgame in the SW.
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>>272833390
CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADS
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>>272842234
How does Kurapika beat Chrollo in that situation.
>Inb4 le chain jail
Thats such a retarded cop-out, and it's very unlikley he'd even manage to land it given Hisoka only got a single hit on Chrollo despite being way faster than Pika.
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>>272835766
KWAB
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>>272843963
And Hisoka let Kastro hit him on purpose retardkun. Thanks for proving that letting someone attack you on purpose doesn't count as a feat and should be ignored when talking about Kastro.
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>>272844890
>>272843808
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>>272843418
I wonder if this is literally true, or it involves some sort of nen shenanigans where the card is reconstituting the dead person's nen into a chatgpt equivalent.
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>>272843507
Speaking of, this can eliminate the plothole where Fugetsu has to visit a place first before being able to tunnel there, if the worm has been marking the ship before she had the chance to use it.



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