When did you realize that KanaKane was the real endgame and their ship with Aqua was just (het)bait?
Kana and Akane won each other.
Sarina/Ruby wonnered Goro/Aqua's heart and soul.
>>273115861Kana won BIGLY Akane.
I haven't read/watched Kaguya and now I suspect I never will, but was it a similar train wreck? People are speculating Aka lost it during OnK after his former wife cucked him but what was his excuse back then?
>>273115861Akane's breast is almost as big as Kana's face.
>>273115963No, kaguya is just goofy fun until the last quarter of the manga but then ends happily and closes out all of the main character arcs. It's like the exact opposite of this ending.
>>273115861Pic related.
If Akane is perfect self of Aka, does it mean that Aqua is his ex?I really can’t wait for interview part 3 for more rofls.
>>273115861Kana x 1.25 = Akane
>>273115861Cute and Canon. Even Aqua supports it
>>273116234You are implying that Aka wants his ex-wife to die.
Do you think aka would dare to double down on his the cycle continues ending by having Ruby run into another Kamiki and become a single mother in the extra chap? Except this time Ruby realizes her mistake and reunites with Kamiki 2.0 before he can turn to evil.
>>273116263why are their hands over his crotch
I actually liked Akane...
>>273116309Not-Aqua…
>>273116234That or >Aka hopes his ex dies a retarded death>Aka wants to fuck Aqua (he's actually bi) >Aka was perhaps the resident Akaneschizo all along
>>273116263>every Akane art at these media mix collabs portrays her with ample breasts and thick luscious thighs, hottest girl of the bunchI don't get why she isn't more popular
>>273116045>Kana gets to suck on themHow lucky
>>273116333Because her desing is boring and generic
>>273116333She appears on less merch to begin with. Memcho was marketed more heavily than her for S1.
>>273116329>picKek.
2/10 ending but who caresAi is so fucking hot
Is it true that Akane is the self-insert of choice for many nip women?
>>273116435>Ai is so fucking hotAi also sells and give Aka's pocket lots of money.
>>273116234>Akane is perfect self of Aka>Akane's love is the deepestIs Aka trying to say his love is also deep kek?
Has Hacka lost it? He didn't even know how many pages the bonus chap would have.
do you think they fuck?
>>273116468Lul Lmao evenKana and Ruby are much more popular among women fanbase
>>273116494You can see that he doesn't give a fuck anymore
>>273116494he does not care
>>273116508Proof?
>super last final chapterI wonder what the final nail is going to be.
Akane and Shirogane, my perfect selves which I always desired to be
>>273116555If he manages to give an even worse ending I would be speechless
>Aka announced that the final volume would include 18 extra pages.>Mengo immediately corrects him, clarifying that it's actually 24 pages.Ahahahahahaha, you can't make this shit up.
>>273116579… and Ishigami, who I really am…
>>273116494Dude probably makes a quota of how many pages his story will have. Once he reaches it, he gets bored of the story he's doing now and makes another one. Doesn't matter if current story is like halfway through, he'll wing the rest outSeriously, poor Mengo holy shit
>>273116591>>273116494Damn, somebody already posted it.
>>273116494>a novel about Arima and Kurokawa's past and futureWho wants yet more flashbacks of the dykes? We already know their childhoods
>>273116494Poor Mengo, at least she's rich now.
>>273116501Yes.
kana and shima d...akane and himekawa..
>>273116620We will get an epilogue where both of them fuck each other
>now we're suddenly using the word "hetbait"All that we need is for ACK to come into the thread and we'll be complete
>>273116650(おまけは24pやで)
>>273116494Mengo's the one doing the work so
>>273116652That's fine. But we don't need to know about their past because it's redundant>Kana was... LE BRAT>Akane was... LE FANLike holy shit we get it already
>surprise yuri endHas this EVER happened before?
>>273116692Haganai?
>>273116494You guys think Mengo is hot?I don't know how old she is but she got married last year or something so she can't be that hideous. And she was probably drawing on personal experience for Neo Dutch Wife
its funny cuz if you removed kana from the story, everything wouldve been mostly the same
>>273116494>Aka comes back to twitter after 2 years to do some damage control>immediately fucks up
>>273116730>removing baking soda
>>273116703
>>273116770
>>273116770>she basically looks like Memcho without the hornsWould
A question for everyone still left. We know that Aka only decided to kill off Ai after the manga had already started. Based on the interviews from the future, can you guess which chapter Aka decided to kill off Ai?
>>273116789Reminds me of Akane/Nino.
>>273116703>And she was probably drawing on personal experience for Neo Dutch WifeShe has a weird looking vagina?
>>273116494starting to think both are no longer on speaking terms
>>273116730I mean you could say this about most characters in the story, since a majority of them never get involved with the revenge plot in any way besides being a part of the movie (most of whom don't even know is being made for revenge).
>>273116802Five at the latest based on Gotanda's closing line
>>273116802>onions sauce stain>>273116831Or a virgin that had never seen a vagina before said that to her and she seethed for a year
Reminder Nino is an antagonist.
So what the fuck was the point of crow loli
>>273116791>>273116826Well, which one is it?
>>273116873same as your life. fucking none
>>273116730Replace Ruby with a doll, remove Kana and Akane and nothing changes. Same fucking story.
>>273116873Make Sarina suffer even more than her previous life
>>273116826>even Mengo is Akane with a wig
>>273116883Get out of /a/ Aka. Go harass a vtuber or something
>>273116802>No interview for Akane>But a random otaku and kindergarten staff get oneYup, Akane was 100% retconned into the story.
Is Aqua the type of male character that Mengo likes?
>>273116272It'd be funnier if Ruby became Kamiki 2.0 and killing people made her remember onii-chan. Sarina is shown getting ripped apart to symbolize Ruby literally forgetting her past.
>>273116831
>>273116802Early Gotanda was ugly as fuck.
>>273115861Because it's the Walmart brand version of the best yuri Kana ship, AiKana. Akane is growing her hair out to force Kana to relive the trauma of almost 20 years ago.
>>273116791She looks like Kana, actually.
>>273116913She likes emotionally vulnerable women who mask it with casual promiscuity. Pic related is her waifu
>>273116912Yes, everyone with a brain who read slowly can see how Kana's original role as the detective helping Aqua was retconned out in favor of repeatedly lionizing Akane. She is the Tsurugi to Kana's Sayahime.
>>273116692Joou-sama no Eshi was a big one. Even started out with hetbait.
>>273116988>Kana's original role as the detective helping AquaProof of this being the plan?
>>273116976That wasn’t my question though…
>>273117002
>>273117028Her type of male is me. I'm her husband. AMA
>>273117046>When I met my brother for the first time in a while, he was crying because he was lonely when we said goodbye. He's such a siscon lol. I want to see him more... tears. He was so cute that his wife had to calm him down (brocon)This and MH3 confirms that Mengo's brother is also her husband!
>>273117046What do you think of Aqua?
>>273116802Aka probably always had the plan, since the ending was decided on and Goro was killed to become Aqua, immediately raising suspicions. He just lied yet again.
>>273117081He was a very poorly written character who accomplished little despite acting like a hotshot and talking down to everyone
>>273117002She's the one who helps Aqua get a role in Sweet Today. She would've been doing more as she reconnected with her old friend.
>>273117097>Mengo: When Aka-sensei informed me, the serialization had already begun, so you could say that the change in direction was quite shocking, but the "live" feeling was really nice.Does that Mengo was lying too?
>>273116770I want to fuck Mengo's brains out and then blackmail her into drawing a new and improved ending to OnK
>>273117097Aqua dying doesn't mean Ai has to die too.
>>273117121Aka probably never told her until Chapter 5 or so. He likely always had the plan as the writer.
>>273116730Without Kana Aqua never gets into the stupid fucking scheme to become an actor. She had way too much screentime for how irrelevant it ultimately ended up but at the same time she was needed for a couple scenes. Just tone her screentime down by 50-80% and everything else still works. You can arguably sell the lie that she's Ruby's best friend and their falling out is horrible more that way since we don't repeatedly see her not even think about Ruby or vice-versa
>>273116435>Kill off your bait character>Becomes the most popular characterIn a way this whole Kamiki deal was the real deal, nobody surpassed Ai, he won
>>273117201A vegetative state counts as a killing too.
>>273117151Part of the reason Aqua kills Kamiki in the ending is because Kamiki murdered Ai, and Aqua was basically deciding whether he'd kill for revenge (Ai) or love (protecting Ruby). The manga wanted to treat Aqua's mental priority as a major deal even though killing Kamiki for being a murderer would achieve both. The motives and dynamics for the ending would be completed along with the ending itself. Aka thus likely decided that Ai would be murdered right when he first thought up the story, and saying otherwise is yet another lie from him.
>>273115963>>273116435>>273116494>>273116509>>273116521>>273116555>>273116589Of course you dumbasses are still seething about the ending. It was the perfect ending to this masterpiece. The anons who are complaining about it are generally self-inserters (who wanted him to kill Kamiki geniusly without getting in trouble and then return back to Ruby as her lover and stay in chad mode forever), AquAka shippers and the garbage AquKana enthusiasts (which is a complete insult to Aka and OnK).I am sure that you guys would have still complained if we would have got a different one since people can never be satisfied and will always prefer comforting lies over bitter truths just like the themes of OnK.And, yeah it did feel a bit rushed since it seems that the author was stressed and wrapped up OnK ASAP for his editor and publisher and also due to time constraint. Doga Kobo doesn't have to fix much besides giving more it more time to breathe.
>>273117231What was the original post about? That Ai was meant to be in a vegetative state?
>>273117231That might not have been too different to warrant Mengo's surprise here >>273117121 unless they wanted to leave the possibility of Ai recovering for later in the story.
>>273117252
>>273117252akane...
>>273117276It was my post here >>273117244, I just noticed a typo, fixed it, then added another sentence.
>>273117252its not just the ending.Akane would never say something like “kill for you” to Aqua. It’s an instant dead end, it means she is retarded and it was established that she is not.Ruby literally did everything wrong, it’s not in her character to just let fucking Goro say something like "I can't smile I feel guilty being alive" and not break down on the spot while raping him. Sarina knows the danger of running out of time and being unable to say the things she wants to, instead of grabbing hold of Goro and never letting go she talks about herself and does halfassed things. Kana doesn't fucking exist.Miyako didn't even notice that her son was breaking down until fucking Ichigo who was absent for 10 years pointed it out to her.Miyako is attentive and careful, she loves Ruby & Aqua dearly, lives with them spends time with them, cooks for them, this would not happen.Every single woman in this story is worthless and intentionally so.Ichigo knew Aqua was going full meltdown but didn't do a single thing about it and just let it happen while fishing and wanking his cock for 10 years. Ichigo is smart and capable, he cares for Ruby & Aqua, he pays attention to them, he loves Miyako. This would not happen.Aqua is made an absolute helpless clown despite all his good traits just to make him a scapegoat for the whole "vile otaku" thing.Aka hates every single character in this story and hates them with passion.and he most certainly hates the readers.this entire later half of the story is vile trash and it was made this way intentionally.
>>273116501>do you think they fuck?You just know.
Is there an edit of Aqua's head on Eren's body yet?
>Kana never got to confess her love>Never got to kiss him>Never got to date him>Never got to be his idol>Ruby and Akane both got to kiss him>Akane got to date him and confess her loveAt the end of the day, what was the point of Kana? Everyone from the very beginning kept pushing for Kana to get into the spotlight and she kept leaving it and in the end nothing was achieved from this, what was the fucking point of her existence?
A story about the corrupt entertainment industry ends with its heroine becoming part of it. Not a bad concept, but Aka is certainly not the man to pull it off, he can't write a decent story to save his life. It feels like midway through he decided that idoling is good actually, and there's nothing wrong with Ruby (and everyone else) going on like this, because, after all, this is a Japanese manga, everyone needs to get back to work or else.For me, it all started going downhill after the Tokyo Blade arc. But I still liked the atmosphere of the village when they revisited it.>>273116873She's the one who got to be with Aqua in the end. The secret, true route. Bravo, Aka, I never saw it coming. A homage to the guy who wrote Act Age, no doubt.
>>273117406There is that "at least 10 years...." edit with Crow.
rats and akanegods won bigakaneschizo lost
>>273117409Akane stole her role.
>>273117252This is a bullshit argument. Why is it that Kamiki can kill someone and get away with it for decades and Deus ex machina is required to bring him down but if the MC commits murder, they have to be in prison or it's self insert. This is bullshit.
>>273117430>akanegods won big>akaneschizo lost
>>273117409Akane must have stolen her role.
Reminder: Kamiki attempted to murder Ruby in broad daylight and still expected to get away with it.
>>273117471Why were the likes of Nino able to kill people in broad daylight without getting caught, but we are suppose to believe that Aqua will get caught no matter what?
>>273117471>white star>murderWhat he wanted to do was to impregnate Ruby.
>>273117448yesKanAka is real, but the schizo is obsessed with nonexistent AkaRubytrue Akanegods are happy our oshi is happy with her wife
>>273117490Kamiki/Ruby is an underrated ship.
>>273117490Akane smelled the strong scent of Hikaru's pre-cum. That is why she barged in to get Ruby away.
>my bitch was supposed to be AkaneWhat’s with that cope?
Imagine raising a kid that isn't your own for 17 years, 12 of those completely alone, and the ungrateful bastard decides to off himself without ever once having called you mother. What was done to Miyako was fucked up
>>273117513>nonexistent AkaRuby
>>273117543It’s obvious. Akane was never supposed to be a major character. So she had to steal from characters already established (aka, Kana and Ruby).
What if Kana and Akane were just one character
>>273117581Who would be the love rival then?
>>273117568>Akane was never supposed [headcanon]
>>273117439>>273117453Sounds like cope to me.
>>273115861Where the fuck does these yuritards even come from? These threads used to be free from retarded homophiles.Falseflagging incestards or what?
>>273117546Aqua is just a selfish faggot who didn't care about anyone. One of the more unlikable protagonists in a long time.
>>273117606Why doesn’t she have an interview in the beginning then? All the other important characters got one.
>>273117471I still don't know what Aka was trying to show in that chapter.If Kamiki really wanted to kill her there then he is the biggest retard in the entire cast. How am I supposed to believe that he is a prolific serial-killer/cult leader in secret?
>>273117485don't think about it, also don't think about how he could've just let Ichigo do it
>>273117546Well, the alternative is her daughter being killed, so she was never going to get a happy ending… it’s better that she gets to keep Ruby rather than Aqua.
>>273117619Kana and Akane are both wearing wedding rings, can't be more clear than that
>>273117619aka and mengo are yuritards
>>273117621Because Akane appears in the story later.
>>273117621She does not appear in the prologue. Also, the interviews ended up not mattering in the slightest at the end, so who cares?
>>273117653>wedding ringsWhere?
>Aqua preferred killing himself over having an ending with KanaFor once, he was based
>>273117637>Well, the alternative is her daughter being killedthere were other alternatives
>>273117691>Kana*any girl
>>273117658>>273117671Just like Memcho!
>>273117699Like?
>>273117619>Falseflagging incestards or what?This
>>273117657>Mengo never drew art of Kana and Aqua together
https://youtu.be/yDU5Lt8i_c0lmao
>>273117603Love triangle between Ruby
>>273117742>Kana in the center
>>273117619every poster that counts from /onk/ moved on, what you see is just incestfags who're forever stuck seething at akane getting what they wanted and latecomers who jumped in just to insert their shitpost since the threads are active
>>273117752Who would win in this scenario, Ruby or Akana?
Apparently according to the interview, that retarded schizo Aqua that happened at the beginning of the movie arc was something Aka improvised
>>273117691>>273117706Aqua is canonically gay. That is why he chose to end with Hikaru.
>>273117802No, really?
>>273117802Why is Aka like this?
>>273117802care to elaborate?
>>273117830This
>>273117715Any option where he gets Hikaru arrested, or killed without killing himself. Off the top of my head:>poison him >push him off the cliff and walk away (Hikaru and friends got away with this multiple times) >conspire with Nino to prove his guilt to the police>frame him for some other crime>let Ichigo take the revenge like he originally wanted to The possibilities are endless, just use your brain.
>>273117899germanon?
>>273117715>>273117899>>conspire with Nino to prove his guilt to the policeThis is already what happens with Akane. Nino confesses to everything and we find out that Kamiki has an entire network of schizos.
>>273117830>end with HikaruLITERALLY.
Kind of fucked up for Aqua to kill himself with Hikari, who will impregnate Ruby now?
I'm speechless. Mea better not letting that hack get close to Aqua (forma de Sakuna)
>>273117979Taiki. The incest train must never be stopped.
>I'll stop your plan, Aqua-kun.>doesn't Akane had one job and failed
>>273117979>who will impregnate Ruby now?Hikaru. His body was not found because he survived.
>>273118004Do you think she will ever tell Kana and Ruby that she knew Aqua would kill himself and kept it to herself? I don't think she has the guts.
This shit is so ass
>>273118004Not really her fault. Aqua threw a bone for her to fetch. When Akane got back to bring the bone back, Aqua was already dead.
>>273117979in 5 years she will age out of being an idol, desperate for a new job she will fuck Shima D and they will have twins who are the reincarnations of Aqua and Ai.
>>273118053Sorry but ShimaD's D belongs only to Arima Kana.
>>273116494It's simply unconceivable to me how little of a fuck you can give to series followed by so many that makes you so much money. Hacka has it way too easy
>>273118042kek if you think about it they would absolutely loathe her
>>273118100He definitely comes across as ungrateful.
I saw Akane crying so I fucked her to make her happy.
>>273116838I think this is the only explanation for the way the manga ended + her social media post
>>273118079Shima's D cannot be restricted to any one woman, not his wife and not Arima Kana either. Shima's D is for everyone in the industry and Ruby will get her turn, he was the true Oshi no Ko all along.
>>273117802>>273117857>the best version of Aqua(Kekqua) was improvisedWhat a waste, I would be less mad about the ending if it happened ~40 chapters earlier when Aqua still had some edge.
>>273118130Wilbur…
>Aka mentions multiple times that ONK is the Glass Mask of the 21st century.>The two main girls have red and blonde hair.You know, I was originally joking that Aka added Akane without prior planning, but at this point it might as well be true.
Aka's ENTIRE career hinges on the first half of Kaguya being great. You know, the half that was almost entirely comedy and slice of life and wasn't filled with melodrama and kidnappings. Every time he writes edgeshit it comes across juvenile as hell. It killed IB, it ruined the 2nd half of Kaguya, and it ruined OnK. I didn't read his recently axed series but I'm sure it's to blame there as well. He wants to be that guy so badly, but he has no talent for it. Mengo herself is MUCH better at that kind of writing.
has aka done interviews during onk's run? kinda wanna see if i can see what he's thinking
>>273118004>>273118042I still find it astonishing that she didn't tell a single soul about Aqua's suicidal tendencies.
>>273117802source
>>273118201>Mengo herself is MUCH better at that kind of writing.no
>>273118148He was only like that for like 10 chapters though
>>273118231Aka ripped off Mengo's oneshot for OnK's ending, and yes, her's was much better.
>>273118212>has aka done interviews during onk's run?What kind of interviews do you want to see?
>>273118247just say youre an incestschizo from the start next time
>>273118231Yes, read her shit besides KnH
>>273118247i thought mega Heart ep3 was meh>>273118259>shipperfag
>>273117546Aqua is a genuinely selfish bastard, Aka probably thinks he's based
>>273118212>thinkingHAHAHAHA
>>273118259Wrong, I'm a day 0 Kanagod, but a Ratby ending is still far better than Aqua killing himself for no reason.
I shart the bed again...
>>273118317Be proud, Kanaking
>>273118317Akane...
>>273118271KnH isn't bad thoughIt's depressing and gross but that doesn't mean it's bad
>>273118292i feel like this is a prank
>>273118042>>273118106Ruby goes apeshit and tells Akane that there is no afterlife.
>Aka: We've titled the final arc of 【Oshi no Ko】 "Toward the Stars and Dreams." We're nervous about whether we're capturing the essence of that image in the manga. When I was working on Kaguya-sama, I tended to give each character a proper send-off, but this time I'm not planning to do that. We're putting in the effort to showcase everything we wanted to show and resolve all issues. Maybe some parts will be different from what I've told Mengo.>Mengo: I'm okay with that. Take your time. Make sure you have no regrets left when the story is over. I can wait as long as you need. And you can talk to me whenever you are worried.
>>273118290He's the worst kind of narcissist. A "hero" that operates from the shadows and thinks he knows what is best for everyone while ignoring how they actually feel. SnK's ending is dogshit, but it's an absolute joke that people compare Aqua to Eren. Aqua accomplished nothing but making the people who love him cry a lot.
mengo is so good at writing
>>273118371>Ai and Miyako in 20 years
>>273118299>Aqua killing himself for no reason.Thinking he killed himself for no reason exposes how fucking BRAINDEAD you are.>hurr why did he have to make it look like kamiki killed himself if they had so much proof kamiki was a bad guyI don't fucking know, maybe because they discovered that AFTER Kamiki fucking died? This is like asking why Akane didn't save Yura if she knew Kamiki killed her.
so why are people seething about the ending when this whole series was about a guy trying to kill another guy
By kappe
>>273118369>Mengo giving him verbal headpats but it's just not enough
>>273118509because people expected your usual obsessive revenge message that is 'focus on what you have now instead of sacrificing everything for revenge'if a character starts out wanting to kill someone and commit suicide but then makes friends and falls in love... you probably expect them to change their mind
>>273118560You don't get it bro, he killed himself to save Ruby's career. Never mind if that is what she actually wants.
The ending makes sense if you subscribe to the ChatGPT theory, it does seem like something an AI would write.
>>273117252Suicide
>>273118560Not to mention, if they'd rather show WHY suicide should not be an option when you have people who truly care for you then they shouldn't have done so by greentexting the future in one chapter. A genuinely nonsensical ending
holy fuck is that why shes called ai
>>273118523>Sarina died>Ruby gets married to some dude (Aqua and Ai are also there in spirit)This fucking crow keeps on losing kek
>chatgpt hoshino's incoherent ramblings cause a man to go insane and start a chain of deathsnow it all makes sense
>>273118509Because it became increasingly stupid and convoluted.>That one initial conversation between Aqua and Kamiki>Oh it was Nino>Nah jk it was indeed Kamiki lolWhat the fuck was that about?>Oh we'll destroy his career for sure the movie will ruin Kamiki's life>Ah but I'm still gonna kill him cuz I can't pick a girl to have an ending with>The goddess watching over her children just let's this one child die because he fulfilled his purpose>His purpose in reincarnating was to die earlier than what he initially lived forI just, I just don't know how to process this.
>>273118591yes
>>273116873She was the asspull Hacka needed to let Ruby discover the body. That's literally it.
>>273118607Crow actually want all of those to happen.
It would have made FAR more sense if the crow was a fan of Ai instead that just so happened to get helped by Sarina.So she reincarnates two of Ai's biggest fans as her twin kids..but then Ai dies and this breaks the crow so she concocts an insane plan to eventually turn Ruby into Ai 2.0 by making her suffer.
>>273116873Aqua likes underaged girls so Loli crow was the last person he had contact with, fulfilling his pedo fantasies
>>273118628>>Oh it was Ninopart of kamikis 'you have nothing on me' nonsense>>Ah but I'm still gonna kill him cuz I can't pick a girl to have an ending withbecause ruining his career doesnt make him unable to hurt ruby
>>273118369I like to imagine Mengo wanted him to change the ending but he densely kept sticking to his guns,>Take your time, you can make any changes you want, and you can talk to me about it
>>273118681this actually sounds good lmaoand of course ai was such a godly idol she even enthralled the supernatural
stop yapping about mengos ending when her ending would be the same but with a random mention of aqua and ruby having sex
>>273118695He was literally going to be investigated days later because of Nino's confessions and very likely arrested as the instigator.
The bigger problem is that Aqua is a fucking retard.Akane could have literally solved everything if he just gave her all the info he had so far.
Aqua killing Kamiki and tanking the prison sentence is a far more kino ending.
>>273118719 i cant believe aqua didnt know about something that happened after his death
>>273118681That would've required for crowloli to be planned from the start rather than just be a way to push Ruby into the plot after Aka sidelined her
In the end, what was the point of this manga?
>>273118509because it ended up being pointless and needless, he didn't need to die and his death only served to prove that Ruby can handle an extra scoop of suffer porn on top of her misery sundae
>>273118773uhh...lies are love!
Link for the thread with the first spoiler reactions? Onegai.
>>273118727it was literally explicitly stated why he can NOT do that
>>273118742They literally caught Nino in action. Aqua had no excuses, should have trusted detective Akane and give her a creampie as thanks for saving Ruby.
>>273118773UHHHH THE INDUSTRY SUCKSGOSH IM SO SMART LOOK AT THIS LIVE ACTION ISNT IT CRAZYAAAAAHHHHHH SAVE ME MENGO I GOT DIVORCED
>>273118523Ruby my beloved...
>>273118775>Ruby can handle an extra scoop of suffer porn on top of her misery sundaeThat sounds delicious
>>273118773Aka giving his big brain takes on the entertainment industry like "it's hard" and "it sucks"
Would the end be better if Aqua's final actions remained the same, but there were more chapters to delve into the aftermath, and how the characters felt, instead of flashing so far into the future?
>>273118696Reads like:>Change the fucking ending and stop copying my work, you hack.
>>273117471Akane should have accidentally tripped him there.
the industry is dark and evil because wholesome actors get gossiped about if they try to fuck old men for favors
>>273118833>>273118808The "muh commentary on the industry" shit was so dumb lmao. Especially when it was all just shallow observations and him kvetching because he got cucked by life.
>>273118773What was the point of the crow kid? She did jack shit. What happened to keychain Aqua? Why is this man'sga so fucking terrible, the ending had no emotional weight because the chapters that preceded it were unfathomably retarded, there's no catharsis, it's just a bunch of random things that happened
>>273118681>but then Ai dies and this breaks the crow so she concocts an insane plan to eventually turn Ruby into Ai 2.0This should've been Kamiki. Make him have a simple, understandable goal, maybe go back and explain that some past events were actually orchestrated by him. And that's enough, there was no need to turn him into a cult-leader.
>>273118888But then Hacka would need to figure out a way to get Ruby to find the body without needing a deus ex machinaAnd he's too incompetent for that
We should have seen this coming all the way back from Chap 118 that it was gonna be bleak and dumb.I thought that maybe Crow loli was lying to him for some higher purpouse to motivate him, I mean why would you be so keen on dying if you were told that you are one in a billion at getting another shot at life and there is nothing afterwards.
>>273118888>cultThat was so fucking stupid
>>273118509Because Aka decided to shit on almost every single character in order to deliver this ending. Even minor ones, even dead ones. Not MEMcho though, thank god.
>>273118888
just realized the keychain wasnt even among her ai/aqua merch lol
>>273118560He killed himself out of idolfaggotory not revenge. Revenge would at least make sense.
>>273118773>In the end, what was the point of this manga?The darkness of the entertainment industry is actually a good thing. Suicide, suffering and lies are noble. We need to be even crueler to entertainers so that the strongest can shine brighter, OnK is an explicit endorsement of social Darwinism and an affirmation of the "ends justify the means".
>>273118946aqua's death made memcho quit her job and guilt tripped her into staying an idol
Oh no guys, Manson never actually killed anyone himself, how are we gonna throw him in jail now? His alibi is perfect.
>>273118936>Chap 118Close..but no cigar.The VERY FIRST redflag was turning Akane into fucking Sherlock RainmanThe chapter that should have made alarms blare inside everyone's head was the asspull of finding the corpse.
>>273118628It's all just retcons over retcons due to Aka's poorly planned plotAka wants the ending to be Aqua dying after killing Kamiki, so just getting Kamiki arrested can't be posible, so Kamiki had to be a minor at the time, but Kamiki also has to be evil so we agree with Aqua about killing him, so now Kamiki is acutally a serial killer, but this means getting him arrested is back on the table, so now Nino has to be the one that actully did the killings and now Aqua has to magically know Yura's death was Nino's doing because Aqua needs to know Kamiki is a serial killer to justify him wanting to kill him after Ruby forgave him
>>273118888HE could have stopped Kamiki.
>>273118972This is just HACKa lashing out because he had a divorce LMAO
>>273118980kek
Lol Im glad Mengo hates Aka nowWish she would have just outright left in the middle of all of it though. Make Aka draw the rest of this garbageAlso, let's see if the 24 extra pages can fix this ending
>>273118833cyberbullying? badpaparazzi? badhorny ojisans? badgetting rich and famous by lying to lonely otaku? good
my favourite part is how its mentioned kamiki was guilty of ONLY instigating
>a celebrity is killed by a psychoa rare but realistic threat >actually he was just mindcontrolled by an evil mastermindi see...
>>273118980>the charges, Officer?
>the one supernatural thing that needs to exist in the story is the reincarnation>crowloli doesnt exist>Akane isnt sherlock holmes>Akane and Kana get combined into one character>Ruby gets involved earlier>Kamiki is obsessed with Ai and tries to turn Ruby into another AiI'm sure Hacka can get from point A to point B with these variables
>>273119122>>the one supernatural thing that needs to exist in the story is the reincarnationactually it added nothing
>>273119047Think Taiki got his license back?
>>273118983I might have thought back when I read it that it was odd and that maybe we would find out later how she actually found him....>>273118972Did Aka tried to make 13 reasons why?
>>273118230>>273117872https://shueisha.online/articles/-/252098?page=1
>>273119122I think combining Ruby and Akane makes more sense, that way she has a motive to want to help Aqua get revenge and keep pushing him towards it while Kana pulls him away from revenge, then later Aqua finds out Ruby is Sarina and is his turn to push her away from revenge
Just read the ending, book ending it on a weak premise was a bad idea
>>273118858He's not even part of the industry in question idk why he thought he was qualified to talk about it
>Civil Law System criminal lawyer here. >The application of a penal "type" -- which is essentially the conduct leading to a result that can, comprehensibly, be called a crime -- relies on a series of factors to be categorized under. The matter of intent is one such element, sublimated in the historical legal doctrine of what you might call the mens rea. Consider the iter criminis of the penal types often attributed to Kamiki: murder, conspiracy to commit murder, manslaughter, among others; all those possess willful intent or culpability (which is the acceptance of a possible criminal result).None of those mens rea can be attributed to Jigsaw. He never accepted the mens rea necessary for murder or manslaughter (or even corporal assault), as in terms of willful intent, he had only the intention to -- at best -- produce some minor physical discomfort (in-order to teach them a moral lesson), instead of the intent to kill or harm. Therefore, when he rigged those people, it can be argued that by giving them easily exploitable flaws and providing direct instructions to avoid actual damage, that he couldn't possibly expect the end-result of murder or serious harm to be achieved.>It's likely, however, that he may still fall to the charge of conspiracy to commit kidnapping. Maybe he could get away with it if, given that kidnapping requires the forceful removing of a human -- which is perhaps arguable that he never did, or that the element of force was never present (in other words, the crime applicable would be private incarceration, not kidnapping).
isnt he writing a fantasy story about princes and princesses
>>273118888>Make him have a simple, understandable goalFunny how we've gone from "villains don't need a motivation that we can agree with at all or even know" to "actually villains need to be understandable" to "actually villains need to literally be more correct than the heroes" and now we're entering "actually villains should be so transcendental that not even the author knows why they fuck they're doing things"
>>273119315There's nothing wrong with nuanced villains.But here's fhe thing. Aka js a dogshit writer that doesn't understand nuance. He is first and foremost a melodramafag and a romcom.banter fag second. And melodramas do not handle nuance well. You either go full retard with simple straightforward goals or you don't bother.
>>273119178Yes, anime only ending that will fix everything incoming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vGnZiFi7oU
>>273119364Melodramas can handle nuance just fine if you're capable of it, the problem s that there's no reason to add any nuance here since Aka was never intent on actually exploring said nuance.>nothing wrong with nuanced villainsThere's nothing wrong with them yeah but I don't think Kamiki ever had a nuanced goal, or any goal at all, he was a plot device from start to finish but plot device villains are actually fucking hard to write if you try to also treat them as characters. He's not a nuanced villain, he's just insane but somehow we need to take him seriously
>>273119281How about when he stood over Yura Katayose and smiled while she was bleeding out and then never reported it?
I still dont understand how Kamiki was in any way a threat.Especially after finding out Nino.
>>273119477>only one shoeliterally who goes to fucking HIKE in one shoe
>>273119207When you guys first read the first 10 or so chapters, did you think Aqua would end up dying?I did
Did mengo or aka say anything about how OnK was being shit on by everyone today
>>273119281how much of all of this is true in Japan though
>>273119530Yes. The flash forward fully implied that he was 120% in for revenge and those plotlines almost always end in death for both. It makes sense thematically.The problem is that I didn't expect Hacka to be this fucking incompetent in executing that story. Aqua dying at the end SHOULD make sense but everything surrounding the circumstances of his death is so retarded that it doesn't achieve that proper satsfying conclusion a revenge story should have.
>>273119584>It makes sense thematically.it doesnt
>>273119477she was at a different ground level so he couldn't see her.
>>273119530His death was obvious from this scene, what was not obvious was how badly he would fumble the entire story to get there.
>>27311852>>273119539Shitkanebtfos...
KEK what a hack
>>273116472ai is shit, nyammy's much better
>>273119735Everyone and their mom knows he's lying
>>273119584The problem is that if you want the end to be revenge then the rest of the story where he gets support and seems to move past it only to backslide doesn't make thematic sense
>>273119595It did from that point in the story though, people with bad motivations tend to meet with bad ends. The thematic issues get muddled later on when he starts to find new reasons to live, abandons revenge for a bit, and finally just kills the guy in a retarded autism moment, but in the beginning it made sense that he was already throwing his own life away to take Kamiki's.
>>273119530Goro died like a dumbass in the first chapter, so for this reason only I expected Aqua to (almost) die like a dumbass at some point as well. But considering the tone of the prologue I really thought this story was going to be positive tale about growth, not a bitter cyclic tragedy.
>>273119735>invisionedis this a news source or somethingwhy don't these people know their own language
>>273119735Hacka...
while crow loli was the worst part of this pyosm the absolute lowest before the ending gauntlet was when hacka had no way of involving ruby in the revenge plot without having crow loli randomly show up to her and infodump her offscreen so that ratby could have like 4 chapters teasing she'd become like aquaalso remember assistant AD-kun and his v-tuber sister???
>>273119781it's from a new interview, the link is in the post
>>273119291No, it will be misery porn but in a medieval setting.
>>273119778>Goro died like a dumbass in the first chapterFor this exact reason I thought Aqua would live. Why kill him off a second time?
>>273119903He should have just overpowered Ryosuke.
>>273118560>because people expected your usual obsessive revenge message that is 'focus on what you have now instead of sacrificing everything for revengeI usually hate this message too, but it's usually done after the avenger has lost everything and always feels like shit. In this case he had:>Loving friends and two possible girlfriends at his beck and call>A half-brother and a sister that loved him with all her heart, with a connection between them that went beyond death >An adoptive mom that raised him for 17 years and an adoptive "dad" who taught him a lot>A prolific career with thousand of fans, he probably even gained a lot of money>His dream movie achieved, which would later go on to win awardsHalf this board would kill to have a third of what he had. And the problem isn't that he committed revenge, it's that he did it in the worst possible way.
>>273119778>I really thought this story was going to be positive tale about growth, not a bitter cyclic tragedy.If you simply decide not to care about Ai, Goro and Sarina as people, you could interpret it that way. Sarina "grows" through pain and the ending is "positive" if you're an ignorant fan in the audience who doesn't know how much she's pointlessly suffered for the sake of crowloli's whims.
>>273119903Aqua must suffer so that Ruby can suffer so that little girls can be tricked by Ruby's lies because Ai expressed love through lies, please understand
New Interview>【Oshi no Ko】 Completes its Run - Reflections on the Ending>— After roughly four and a half years of serializing Oshi no Ko, how do you feel now that it’s concluded?>Aka Akasaka: I’d like to take it easy for a while. I want to focus more on things rooted in “life.”>— During the serialization, was it hard to live a calm, settled life?>Compared to when I was serializing Kaguya-sama: Love is War – The Genius’ War of Hearts and Minds (henceforth Kaguya-sama), this was much better. Back then, I wasn’t even living a human life (laughs). This time, since I was able to focus only on writing the story, I started to think little by little, “Maybe it’s okay to put more emphasis on life.” Right now, I’m even considering doing some farming.>— You’ve previously mentioned that the general plot for Oshi no Ko was solidified from the beginning. Did it go as planned until the end?>Yes, the ending proceeded as intended.>However, for Oshi no Ko, there were parts I decided from the start and parts I left undecided. In the past, I was the kind of writer who could plan everything out from the beginning, but I think working on Kaguya-sama changed me.>There are moments when the inner side of a character I hadn’t foreseen emerges, and I want to love that aspect as part of their personality. I want to be a writer who values that. Because of this, it’s now almost impossible to decide everything from one to ten.>So, even though the ending of Oshi no Ko was set, it’s also a manga where I put a lot of care into the characters. I think that became part of my style.
>>273120002>— MEM-cho is a prime example of this, isn’t she? She was originally meant to be a supporting character, but due to Yokoyari Mengo’s artwork and your growing fondness for her, she became a main character. Are there any other instances where a character changed course?>Aqua, definitely. I think he became a much more complex character. Initially, Aqua was driven by motivations that anyone could understand, but later on, he kept his feelings hidden, even from the readers.>"I want to finish as an author readers will look forward to again.">— Did that realization come from recognizing that your characters had more depth than initially expected?>I would say it’s more like, “Because of various events, a variety of emotions emerged within them.” As a result, the complexity of their inner emotions grew. It may seem a bit inconsiderate that I didn’t fully show this to readers, but that was part of what I wanted to achieve with Oshi no Ko.>— In recent years, we’ve seen the finales of major series like Evangelion, Attack on Titan, and Jujutsu Kaisen. Oshi no Ko feels like a series that also belongs in that lineup. Did you pay attention to how these big titles were concluded?>I have noticed that shorter series are increasing. I think, in an industry that consumes content so quickly, creators feel a strong desire to end their stories as “interesting works.” As for myself, I’m glad we’ve reached an era where we can conclude our works at the timing we want and in the way we prefer as authors.
>>273120020>but later on, he kept his feelings hidden, even from the readers.Trash.
>>273120020>Regarding Oshi no Ko, there is a part of me that would like to keep the original story going as long as the anime continues (laughs).>— That’s surprising (laughs).>But with Yokoyari-sensei on board, we want to keep creating as authors whom readers will look forward to reading again. To achieve that, it has to stay engaging until the end.>— In a past interview, you mentioned feeling a bit reluctant about keeping Yokoyari-sensei committed to Oshi no Ko for too long.>Of course, that’s true. Yokoyari-sensei is capable of drawing on her own. In fact, Oshi no Ko began because I approached her and asked her to work on it with me. So, in some ways, I see Oshi no Ko as my own “selfish request.”>That’s why I’ve always felt that we needed to end it while it was still a good series. I wanted it to finish as a good work both for the readers and for Yokoyari-sensei.>"At the starting point of Oshi no Ko, there was 'someone else'.">— Oshi no Ko became a social phenomenon, particularly with its anime adaptation and YOASOBI's opening theme song "Idol." How did you view this phenomenon?>Oshi no Ko was my first project after announcing that I would focus solely on writing and leave the illustrating to others. Honestly, it has set such a high bar that I feel like, “Can I really top this?” The hurdle for the next project is insanely high, so part of me wonders, “Can I even do it?” (laughs). I’m starting to think maybe I should just live quietly and grow crops instead...>— No way! While farming sounds nice, we’re all looking forward to your next project!>Yes (laughs).>— (laughs). Did this social phenomenon have any impact on Oshi no Ko as a work itself?
Btw, almost nobody mentions that he kinda killed Kamiki out of sheer luck, since he mentions that he hit a rock while falling. If he hadn't or they had changed positions while falling, he would have easily overpowered a bleeding Aqua and got out of the water in time to not freeze to death.
>>273120043>Of course, I think it did have an impact. To begin with, Oshi no Ko originated from a desire to “create something with someone else.” This idea of collaboration is actually incorporated into the story in various ways. The anime and theme song are both part of that—Oshi no Ko as a whole was developed with a sense of unity across different elements.>In a way, one of the themes in Oshi no Ko may have been about "creating something with someone else." I wanted to portray the industry’s reliance on collaboration—manga, anime, stage productions are things I couldn’t create alone—and show the communication between creators, fans, and their idols.>— Did this desire to create with others come from your experiences working on Kaguya-sama: Love is War?>I think it reflects how I grew up a bit while working on Kaguya-sama. When a work spreads, it’s not just the manga on its own that’s reaching people. It’s everything that comes with it—the multimedia adaptations, the advertising, and the efforts from the publishers. I realized that my own limits could only be overcome by collaborating with others, and I learned how important it is to work together. That has been a huge realization for me.>"The Feelings of Joy and Fear Sparked by the Success of the Series">— The person who worked closest with you on Oshi no Ko was none other than Yokoyari Mengo-sensei. Did you two ever discuss the Oshi no Ko phenomenon?>Whenever we met up in person, our conversations often turned to this topic. Of course, I think Mengo-sensei and I have different perspectives on the series’ success. While there’s definitely a sense of happiness that comes from seeing our work become popular, there’s also a sense of fear. I feel like our conversations tended to focus more on the “fear” aspect.>While there are plenty of happy moments, the success also brought a heavy sense of responsibility. I think that’s a sentiment both Mengo-sensei and I share.
>>273118367No, Aka is just a salesman, he's full of shit.
>>273120002>>So, even though the ending of Oshi no Ko was set, it’s also a manga where I put a lot of care into the characters. I think that became part of my style.Shut the fuck up Hacka, that couldnt be further from the truth.
>>273120020>>"I want to finish as an author readers will look forward to again."
>>273119539Yeah, I'm thinking Ruby won.
>>273118980Is that the american version of star eyes on his forehead?
>>273120101Idiot thinks I’ll eat more of his slop… I probably will desu
>In recent years, we’ve seen the finales of major series like Evangelion, Attack on Titan, and Jujutsu Kaisen. Oshi no Ko feels like a series that also belongs in that lineup. Did you pay attention to how these big titles were concluded?>I have noticed that shorter series are increasing. I think, in an industry that consumes content so quickly, creators feel a strong desire to end their stories as “interesting works.” As for myself, I’m glad we’ve reached an era where we can conclude our works at the timing we want and in the way we prefer as authors.Not dropping the fraud accusations at all
>>273120114The canonical pairings are:>Aqua x Ai (in star form)>Ruby x Melt >Kana x ShimaD>Akane x Ojisans
>>273120151Straight up admitting he copied that idiot moment from AOT, what a fuckhead.
>>273120171what
>>273120020>>— In recent years, we’ve seen the finales of major series like Evangelion, Attack on Titan, and Jujutsu Kaisen. Oshi no Ko feels like a series that also belongs in that lineup.Do we agree with this sentiment?
>>273120178>why did you do it>because I'm an idiot
>>273120151Hacka copied the SnK end??
>>273120189one of those is not like the others
>>273119778This. The point of the girls was so that they can be the one to "fix him." His raison d'etre. The whole plotline of Private / MV arc was about Aqua making peace with himself, abandoning all notion of revenge to live normally. The next arc is all about Ruby falling into the same darkness as her brother, and he's trying to protect her from going into the same path.Movie arc finale was literally about him breaking up his ties with Hikaru. It's like Aka threw every single one of Aqua characterization out of the window after building them up so much. There's no point in the story at all. Might as well just throw toddler Aqua holding a knife towards Hikaru and the story wouldn't change.
>>273120213Yeah. Evangelion is the only good one there.
>>273120020>Are there any other instances where a character changed course?>Aqua, definitelyYeah... we can tell. He became an even bigger retard than before
>>273120230Shitkanebtfos...
>>273120151>>273120171>>273120201>>273120204Eren has been avenged!
I know the japs didn't hate the ending of SnK as much as the west. However, for Aka to admit that it was the type of ending he was aiming for in this story is just insane to me.
>>273120213yes, jujutsu kaisen is the only one that doesnt pretend to be deeper than it really is
>>273120230>Ichigo trying to act cool while wearing shorts>Aqua leaving so smug like he didn't just do something retarded
>>273120213Which one are you talking about?
>>273120235Also, all EVA routes have somewhat hopeful endings, even EoE. I think Aka doesn't realize that there's no hope in the ending he gave Ruby.
>>273120230Akane is so unimportant...
>>273120315A convenient character to the end
>>273120292Eva because all its endings are good.
>>273120321>charactertool*
>>273120315she was a crucial plot device, who else could find Goros body and get stabbed as a decoy?
>>273120310This. I rewatched EoE not that long ago and now that I'm older I really appreciate the message of the movie. Hell, it was a movie full of suffering with characters dying and the world getting Raptured, her it still managed to give a hopeful message.
i see dead people
>>273120362>heryet
>>273120375lol Aqua not having a shadow is realGod this is so shit
>>273119959Ah you reminded me, isn't the very first chapter something like "what would you do if you were born in the world of celebrities"? I guess the answer is "kill myself" for Aka.>half-brotherhey I liked that guy, how many chapters ago did we last see him?>>273120204>Hey everyone hated the SnK ending let's do that>wait which SNK? uhh....let's do both.
sex with Mengo (in front of Aka)
>>273120230Akane ruins every promotion she appears on.
>>273120375>>273120230I feel this could've been the cover for the final volume (minus the awkward Ai on the bottom left)
I hope Aka gets mauled by a mountain lion
>>273120362Yeah, all Aka had to do is what most people expected. Have the crow give some kind of speech or parting words to Ruby, hand her the keychain and tell her to carry on with the proof that he lived.The ending is still shit but at least there is some catharsis out of that development. However, because it's a natural expectation from the story Aka doesn't do it because he thinks subverting expectations just for the sake of it is clever writing.
>>273119735This means the anime spoilers were also part of Aka's tensai keikaku.
>Aka: "I've been doing the same thing as Akane Kurokawa since around high school.">"Eh?">Aka: "I studied psychology and human behavior patterns."Kek
>>273120464Fucking insane how bloated this dude's ego isNo wonder his wife fucked off
>>273120464He's really a fucking chuuni that never grow up. Holy fuck how embarrassing.
>>273116730This but with Akane.
>>273120473Koreans are also calling him chuuni right now.
>Akane is literally Aka's self-insert>Akane drools constantly for KanaNow it all makes sense
>>273120464>>Aka: "I studied psychology and human behavior patterns."and he still hasnt written a single believable character
>>273120464He’s already posted his bookshelf which is full of that shit, so yeah.
>>273120464This confirms that Kurokawa AKAne is AKAsaka AKA himself and AKAnefags were actually AKAfags all along.
>>273120151>Jujutsu KaisenI bet he is going to use it as a reference for his new manga.
>>273120516With Aka admitting Akane is his self-insert she is not escaping the plot device accusations. It also explains why he kept her in the story long past her actual relevance.
>>273120527No wonder they are the ones defending the finale
>>273120539And why Akane is the one narrating everything in the final arc
>>273120527He even talked about using sticky notes like that.
>>273120464>Studied psychology like Akane>Has an inflated ego like KanaDude, not even the callouts from Mengo and her disavowment of the end could humble him down.
>>273120516>Mengo IS Kana
>>273120557It's super bad in the last chapter. He gives up pretending it's supposed to be a character narration and just narrating shit as Aka.
>>273120464Source btw
>>273120464>>273120516>>273120527>>273120539>>273120541>>273120555>>273120557>>273120564>>273120571
>>273120527This proves even more that Akane will rape Kana
>>273120464>Akane gets dumped>Aka gets dumpedWOAH
>>273120616>goes after Kana (Mengo) afterwardshuh...
Based
>>273120375That fucking beat started playing in my head.
Ruby deserved a better author.Instead she was surrounded by characters who her author self inserted as (Akane) and lusted after. (Kana)Shit was rigged from the start
Did Aka ever score with Mengo?
>>273120657Will the VN eventually be completed?
>>273120683Did Akane managed to fuck Kana?
I'm glad Aguwa won.
The chink lost it after seeing this interview>A Tribute to the Legendary Creator of Romantic Comedy Manga, Akasaka Aka, Who "Must Have Lost His Mind While Playing APEX">Are you insane, Aka? Just for this result, you went and killed Aqua, completely destroying every romantic subplot around him. It’s like a picky eater flipping the table because they don't like the food. Sure, you gave us a "revenge," but what kind of revenge is this? The revenge is meaningless, the method of revenge is clownish. You said it would reveal the dark side of the idol industry and educate people on fandom culture, but all you delivered was a bunch of trivialities and half-hearted preaching.>You complicated the characters’ relationships on purpose, trying to make your story seem deep, layered, and rich. You don’t know how to write revenge—only romantic comedies—yet you insisted on writing about revenge. You set the tone for a revenge story by killing three characters in the beginning, but then halfway through, it suddenly became a romantic comedy. And don’t even get me started on the main plotline toward the end, relying on a movie to expose the darkness, or self-harm to frame Aqua's dad. I started reading because I listened to "Idol" and admired Hoshino Ai, but you killed her off and even ruined her image. Aqua initially had a cold, avenger persona, but thanks to your messy writing, he also ended up looking like an idiot.>Kana and Akane’s character arcs are relatively normal, but it only highlights how the two main characters are complete messes. And in the end, Aqua dies, making the romantic subplot totally pointless—unless you consider a posthumous confession to be a romantic subplot.>(1/2)
>>273120673>Irrelvantby>Doing anything
>>273120683No, Mengo loves her husband (fujimoto) and said even though she writes about messy relationships she hates the idea of cheating.
>>273120700>And then there’s Ruby’s arc. She was supposed to be a tragic character reborn to chase her idol dreams, a positive female lead with a mission. But instead, you had her whole family killed off, destroyed her former-life idol and lover, as well as her current-life lover, and finally turned her into a puppet, a second Ai.>There are a few kinds of truly terrible endings in storytelling, one being the “it was all a dream” ending, where everything that happened was just pointless. The second worst type is exactly what you did—a cyclical ending. True cyclical endings in meaningful works of depth bring forth values and spirit. But what did you create? In the last chapter, you forced Ruby into becoming a second Ai, created another little girl to become another Sarina—are you out of your mind? If you wanted to write a revenge story, don’t make it a comedy, and if you wanted it to be a revenge story, don’t twist it into a tragedy at the end.>Sure, you checked off every plot point: the dad died, the Tokyo Dome was reached, and the so-called revenge was achieved. Maybe in your mind, you’ve created a cohesive story, but in reality, it’s a tangled mess, chaotic in both plot and characters, without any central theme. You obviously wrote it without an outline, throwing ideas around randomly. I suspect you came up with these plot points on the toilet, jotting things down whenever inspiration struck.>In the end, what did you create? It feels like I could’ve read the first volume and the final chapter alone and gotten the whole story. This story isn’t just disjointed—it’s in shambles. Your final cycle “concluded” everything, sure. A good cyclical story leaves readers with something meaningful, but yours is just non-recyclable garbage.>Are you crazy? You wasted over a year of my life. What on earth did I just read?>(2/2)
>>273120716I thought Mengo loved her brother?
>>273120709Read what what I wrote again, you retard. Or slit your wrists, your choice.
aka should have just ripped off the true end of g-senjou no maou instead
That anon who edited Aka's octopus on Akane's head long time ago was actually right
>>273120732Aka is like a brother to her.
>>273120716>she hates the idea of cheating.she never said that
>>273120230Ruby looks so cool here... but she's dead inside
>>273120700>You set the tone for a revenge story by killing three characters in the beginning, but then halfway through, it suddenly became a romantic comedy.That's the thing, after Sarina and Ai's death he could've kept edgier and dark. Instead he makes it seem like a story about getting out of dark circumstances to create a nice fluffy life.Only to pull the rug out at the very end and say just kidding everyone must suffer miserably until they eventually die.
>>273120734>Irrelvantby>Doing anything even under different authors.
>>273120686We're thinking of different things here.
>>273120746She did in a tweet.
>>273120752Your bitch did jack shit even with an author that favored them>KanaCried all series>AkanePlayed detective only to fail spectacularly Fucking retard
>>273120757Not Angel Beats?
>>273118983>The VERY FIRST redflag was turning Akane into fucking Sherlock Rainman>the thread used to believe that the chapter where Ai possessed Akane was the most stupid thing Aka could wroteWe were so naive.
>>273120716>You wasted over a year of my life.That's nothing. He wasted four and a half years of Mengo's (36) life.
>>273120700>>273120725> I suspect you came up with these plot points on the toilet, jotting things down whenever inspiration struck.I bet Aka did exactly that lol
>>273120779No
>>273120778>Kekby>Anything other than incestbait.
Kanaschizo meltdown incoming.
>>273120824when?
>>273120751Aka is too retarded or narcissist to see what he did it wrong
>>273120824>No argument about how your bitch was uselessGlad you accept that truth
>>273120230Okay... but what's this?
>>273120849Mengo art for the drama I guess considering the dates and title.
The gods must really hate Ruby if they wants her to constantly suffer, I bet they're already preparing her 3rd life and the shit in it
>>273120698>all of our heroines will go and shot BLACKED videos now that Aqua is deadGrim…
>>273120464The Sherlock pasta is real.
>>273120683No, and she even blacklisted him.
>>273120725>>Are you crazy? You wasted over a year of my life. What on earth did I just read?>over a yearIt really is just rubyfags having melties, but I guess this thread is an exemplary show with all the seethe towards akane who won while everyone else moved on already
>>273120848You know what? When I posted this >>273120709 I was only half joking, because of course I would want every single character to be relevant throughout the manga.But your reaction was just too funny to ignore. I guess Rubyfags do exist after all lmao.
Even nips are dumbfounded by Ai on the final cover
>>273115963First half of Kaguya is a fantastic romcom, but the second half is a slow descent in quality that reaches its absolute bottom in the last arc. The actual ending is decent however, bar two specific characters which ending to their arcs is really shitty, but overall the ending was fine.
>>273119199>I might have thought back when I read it that it was odd and that maybe we would find out later how she actually found him....>>273118983>The chapter that should have made alarms blare inside everyone's head was the asspull of finding the corpse.What are you faggots talking about? The corpse was found on accident by Akane and Ruby but the explanation was that crow loli guided them to it>The VERY FIRST redflag was turning Akane into fucking Sherlock RainmanIt's like one of few entertaining parts of this series
>>273115963you can watch just the anime (maybe minus the movie) and you get a better conclusion than most anime/manga, the ending is not outright bad, it has various flaws, but for the main couple you get everything you could want out of that.
>>273120931>It really is just rubyfags having meltiesYeah, everyone on every platform is a rubyfag. Guess she was the most popular after all, then.
>>273120942I mean, it is nonsensical, given how irrelevant Ai was for the finale
>>273120944Which two characters?
>>273120973The most popular among mentally ill sore losers who can't let go after the series ended yeah, everyone else moved on while the real schizos remained
now that i think about it, wasn't there this big thing about kobachi from kaguya having ishigami as an oshi but not wanting to romance him
>>273120975Didn't Aka say the main cast? And Mengo eyes for the final volume cover?
>>273120993You’re still here too nigger.
>>273120975You would probably expect the dual protagonists to be on the final volume cover but I guess Ai sells better
>>273120993ishigami and his gf?
>plotdeviceby>protagonist
Final volume needs more Kana
>>273120740>Aka's octopus on Akane's headPost it.
>>273120976ishitgami and mikolino just repeating kaguya and prez's arc but with none of their charisma
>>273121016>noooooo ratna is stealing ruby's spotlight>nobody cares about ruby as soon as the story revolves around herlol
>>273120996Which is why Aka used a term for romancing your oshi in OnK.
>>273120230Ruby is not the main character. She is not supposed to be in the center.
>>273120959>It's like one of few entertaining parts of this seriesNo.She went from suicidal to batman and she solved everything by accident or by making everyone stupid.>she found Aqua was Ai son because he said Ai after he fainted>she found Kamiki becuase she is the only character that could see Aqua's clone could be his father
I am not a very big fan of Akane.
>>273121058>Ruby is not the main characterThe opening monologue is Ruby's and the final word is Ruby's.
>>273121058>Ruby is not the main character.Ruby is the Main Heroine and the true protagonist, Aqua was just her simp follower
>>273121083>The opening monologue is Ruby'sNot true.
>>273121083the rest of the series didn't take that into account
>>273121095NTA, but she has the second most screentime after Aqua. Say what you want about it, but that makes her the second most prevalent character in the story.
>>273121039And it was foreshadowed by Fujiwara dream they would end up falling out, with Ishigami cucking Miko with Hayasaka and Miko becoming a party slut, despite of being roomies.
>>273121104I'm sure Memmcho is also more prevalent that Ai and Kamiki combined.
>>273121036Can't find it in the archives, but I remember it was an edit of this scene
>>273121058>Ruby is not the main character.That's where you're wrong, Ruby is THE Heroine/Protagonists
>>273120932>STIL No argument about how your bitch was useless
>>273116591Bros, I just want Mengo to draw smut again. Her art was wasted on Aka.
>>273121137lmao
>>273121121Yes, and Aka considers her a main character.
This will be the big reveal in extra chapter. Aqua’s next reincarnation.
>>273121141
Beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecPHv_fY5Mg
>>273121168>every single comment is positiveummm but 4channel told me the japanese hate it????
So Aqua wasn't supposed to be a complex character and the plan has always been to have Aqua die like a faggot?N E A T
Side girl (Akane and Kana) fags are having a melty
>>273121162Literally picrel
>>273121072>She went from suicidal to batmanAnd what's wrong with this? Bullying stopped. Why are you so hung up on suicide? Suicide has nothing to do with intelligence.>>she found Aqua was Ai son because he said Ai after he faintedso?>>she found Kamiki becuase she is the only character that could see Aqua's clone could be his fatherThey aren't clones. This is manga, all characters have minimal facial details and can look like they are related to one another. Aqua was said to resemble Ai from his face not Kamiki.Akane being the person who knows Aqua the most and is the most aware of details could see some of features in Kamiki, especially when he was a child.
>>273121168>barely any AkaneLOL
>>273121157>inherits kaguya's schizo menhera genesOof
>>273121193YJ channel on yt censirs negative comments.
>>273121157Actually...Goro reincarnated as Shirogane.Sarina reincarnated as Kaguya.
>>273121228I mean... Akane is irrelevant
>>273121039I thought everyone liked Miko
>>273120464>Akane being gay for Kana was just Aka self-inserting all alongIt all makes sense now
>>273119735>>273119584"Envisioned" doesn't mean that he had this ending in mind since the very beginning. Remember that Aka only came up with the idea of killing Ai off after the manga was already serialized.
>Last shot is Ruby and Aqua togetherI think RubyGODS won
>>273120213Yeah, Evangelion, while weird, has two great finales. And no, I don't count EoE as one of them
>>273121193>5k view video>vs the million+ on jap twitterAlso, it's the promotional youtube channel. Doubt they let hate towards the author on the app.
>>273121168This shit was made by a Kanarat
>>273121193You can filter bad comments in YouTube, unlike social media (most of the time)
>>273121288>This shit was made by a KanaratThen why is Ruby and Aqua cuddling the final parting focus.
>>273121255...in opposite world
Now i'm positive Kanokari will have a better written end than most of the contempirary series.OnK set a very low bar.
>all of this promotion for the endingMan, Aka really had these people thinking he was cooking something. That's fucking hilarious.
>>273121288Not really.
>>273121314Kanokari has NEVER shy away from it's main plot (jerking off to Chorizo), unlike OnK which filled more than half of the manga with stuff that was never relevant in the end
>>273121314Kanokari's problem is the ridiculous amount of filler and dragging, otherwise is a decent romcom, also the fag actually keeps his wife Happy unlike Aka
>>273121345He did cook. Ending is still good.
>>273121314I’m still not reading that garbage, no matter what you say.
>>273121345This promotion is actually pretty subpar from what the series has managed to sell
>>273121168The dude that edited the PV needs a raise, it makes the manga look much better than it actually is.
>>273121392Edited by the genius mangaka himself
>>273121221ZZZ
>>273121357>also the fag actually keeps his wife Happy unlike AkaHe lets his wife fuck other men unlike Aka.
>>273121314Reminder that Kanokari pulled off a more emotional character death than OnK.
>>273121168Kanabros...
>>273121413Stop projecting Aka
>>273121168This video even retroactively makes Ruby the center of the idol arc. Aka really fucked this story up, huh.This is why you don't do live writing.
>>273121438Huh? Who died?
>>273121440AIEEEEEEE!!!!
>>273121264>>273121168Whoever did the coloring on this panel did a great job with Ruby. She looks beautiful
That promotional video makes me realize they are actually going to make people think the ending is acceptable just by animating shit well. Fuck me.
Onk will never be part of the stream with this shitty ending
>>273121459 Chorizo's granny
I think Ruby is really cute
>>273121478First time, eh?Look at how accepted SnK ending is from anime just because they played sad OST or something.Meanwhile this ending was nowhere near as bad as SnK.
>>273121349Something i should applaud from Reiji and Ryou is that, at the very least, they keep consistence with their plots.Seems having Rumiko Takahashi as inspiration for mangakas like them (and Aoyama and Akamatsu) is actually a blessing in disguise.
>>273121489Oh right, I forgot because it has been so long, it really was way more emotional and gut wrenching than anything Aka did post Ai's death kek
>>273121168I can't believe this shit made me shed some tears
>>273121440Bejitabros... ninibros... yiribros... hiribros... rikibros...
>>273121168kiss included
What is even Aka's excuse? He wasn't even the one doing the drawing, which is what takes the most time
>>273121837He said he felt bad for keeping Mengo working on one series for such a long time.
>>273115861t b h since this
>>273121478>you will live to see animeonlys call this a masterpieceunfathomably grim
>>273115861NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
