Chapter 407: Negotiations, Togashi's Troupe TL
FKMTesque spread
>>273151709HEY GUYS, NEN TRICKERY MAY BE AFOOT
ざわ…ざわ…
This chapter is completely unneeded holy shit fuck you Togashi what the fuck is wrong with you.
End of Chapter.Anons, are you smart enough to pass Morena's aptitude test?Which sequence of cards do you choose and what questions do you ask in this scenario?
>>273151832"Yes" is pretty much the only answer where she lives. "X" gets her unlimited amounts of suspicion from her friends and she probably gets kill. "No" and they kill her...Its pretty much a trap and the game only exists to her her feel like she is negotiating at all. Its also probably a condition of her ability. She needs to convince the target to yes and mean yes. They can't be coerced via threat.
20% Morena wins (End card is Yes)40% Borksen wins (End card is R or X)20% Noone wins (End card is No)20% Game voided (End card is Joker)All things considered, pretty fair odds.
can someone post the raws without blurred out text?
>>273151846Do we have the raws for this page?
ok this arc has way too many scenes of people discussing the intentions and possibilities of whatever event just occurred
>>273151878If anything the odds are actually against the ability holder, I don't expect she's at Kurapika 4D chess level but she won't be top dog by ngingetin stupid
>>273151709>use drugs to immobilize her>surround her with large menWhat did togashi mean by this?
Loved the chapter. When she said she won't cheat it's obvious her allies will. When she said it's dangerous for both if too much time passes it's maybe because her requirements for requirement had a time limit like Chrollos and if she doesn't make it in time she will be killed.Chapter theme: https://youtu.be/ruwbNpJKmgk
>a whole ass chapter to explain a nen card gamebased and reasonable but I hope we're not going into hiatus soon/it won't be too long since Togashi seems to be at his limit (maybe it really is a November thing but I dunno)
This is just pseud wankery really. It's not hard to understand, but it's just so extra when it doesn't need to be. Did he really need to get into how responses to negative questions can be interpreted either way? I was fine with Rihan, I was fine with Hinrigh, but this just seems more like he's wanking himself off through the game systems. When every character does the same "hmmm allow me to break down and analyze this potential edge-case loophole in detail" they all start to blend together into the same meta-character, that being "The Author".
>>273151673F
>>273151673>ywn play card games with Morena
>>273151846>No, I won't cheat at all. I'm my own subject.This is honestly a brilliant bit of characterization right here. Damn, I'm impressed Togashi. Using grammar to show that Morena is a self-centered bitch who refuses to be constrained by societal norms (hospitality in this case) is fucking genius.
>>273151869>Which sequence of cards do you choose and what questions do you ask in this scenario?Question itself is meaningless since it doesn't help you win. Win or lose is decided by Child's card.However, there's one meaingful information here. >>273151740 Morena said "the longer this goes on, the more dangerous it becomes for both sides". If something very bad will happen here, that can change the situation if Borksen is prepared. So I think Borksen will use Question A and B card to know about this threat.However, Borksen need as many information as she can gather before asking Question A. So she will start with Purpose card and Yes card to learn what Morena is planning to do, and then ask Question A and B, to learn that Phantom Troupe is coming to kill them all.But Borksen will be forced to choose D card during the game if R and X cards are sent to graveyard at the beginning of the game. She will obey any small request given by Morena, and it will be "Kiss me". Then it is revealed that Morena's Contagion requires target's voluntary kiss, and has weak manipulation power. Borksen is a soldier, not a nen user, so she didn't think the information about her ability is more important than her purpose, and this will be her doom. At the end of the game Borksen will have "choice" whether it is Joker or R, but mindraped Borksen will choose "yes" regardless.
>>273152086Nothing about this is pseud wankery. Togashi just wanted to do a Fukumoto style game which is fine. I think it would have been way better received if he didn't do it right before people were anticipating something big to happen and now feel blue balled. He should have just done this right after the Halkenburg chapter instead.
FKMTbros this is our timr
>>273152168at the end Bork will be convinced when Morena reveals about Tserri's serial murders and rapes
>>273152168So are Morena's Yes?/No? cards a preview of if those were to be Borksen's final cards?
There's no strategy to this game.Bork has no actions that can influence the game in any way that increases her desired result. Neither has Morena.Prove me wrong if you can think of some way.
>>273152262I doubt it. What Morena is doing is way worse. You think she's going to be like omg Tse is a murderer let me join these serial killers instead to destroy the world.Also the game being for manipulation is way too complicated compared to others where they just stick in a needle or whatever. It's probably more of a ritual before she can join as one of the contaminated and the game acts like a test in order to give her the ability.
>>273152307the only strategy is to waste time or to ask what's the X cardbut it's at the disadvantage of Morena. So it's probably a condition for some powerful effect
>"Go Back" girl appears in the chapter that will filter out the remaining shounenshittersBased Togashi.
Alright, after thinking over it a bit I have concluded the following.>The time limit and danger obviously means that she knows about the spider and Cha-R, Xi-Yu searching for her.>The most likely outcome will be that Borksen is forced to use the return card to get back the X.>The small request will either fulfil a condition of Morena (maybe kissing her) or will involve something seemingly harmless that will still benefit them.>The purpose of the game is mainly not to have Borksen agree with them (although it would be the most ideal scenario for them) but to have Borksen use the return card and accept the favor.>The game itself might or might not be one of Morenas abilities, if it's part of her abilities it's not unreasonable to think she could change the cards without touching them (assuming they are conjured by her).>Morena might be considered a prince as well since she's part of the royal lineage, if that is the case her ability might grant the full payout for killing her. If Borksen becomes affected by contagion and kills her, this would immediately get her 50 points.
>>273152290Yes. Yes will be "you will kill 20 civilians to get your ability and become part of world annihilation machine" and No will be "you will be raped until you say yes".
>>273152307you can use Question A and B to guess Morena's next picks>>273152342we already know what the X card is, she goes back alive and safe
>>273152086He is autistic
>>273152319it doesn't really matter if she likes what Morena is doing or not. They would still turn against Tse, which is probably what Morena wants.Also Morena doesn't have to tell her the details of her plan. The question is only about her goal for kidnapping Bork, she doesn't have to tell about her destroy the world plan
Why does Morena have one expression? She always has a wry smile
>>273152504I meant to ask which card is the X card so she can select that and go home safe
>>273152526they say Morena will shuffle so the face down cards will be unknown to her at least
fuck this gay succession are we even gotta see DC this decade bro
>>273151869So ultimately we did not like this chapter right? (Reply only with a YES or NO)
I just want to know who silent majority is goddamn you Togashi. I can’t believe that’s a late game reveal
>>273152561YES
What do Morena's Yes and No cards do?
>>273152610Togashi's Troupe translation is weird but from what I understand, it explains Borksen what happens if the game ends with Borksen saying Yes or No.Mostly good for No, though it's likely they'll just say they'll kill her if she says No.Yes would probably explain they'll use contagion on her and how she will be used? Though that can be part of the objective card too.
togashi should fast forward to the moment where Morena molests Bjork
Morena should have kidnapped Momolly instead. She’s cuter
Will anons get mad if Kurapika is able to cancel the succession war, bydestroying the buddha shroud treasure and the 14 coffin rooms and as a result all the dead princes come back to life? Or is it necessary that the dead princes remain dead?
>>273152646Makes sense. I was speedreading so I missed the middle panel >>273151856
>>273151709Huh?! Strong men?!
>>273152307>Bork has no actions that can influence the game in any way that increases her desired result.Question B: "What is your plan to win this game"Pray Morena don't pick R and X, and pick D card to revive R or X if they went to graveyard, to maximize her chance to win.
>>273152504Morena doesn't get to pick though, Bork's final condition was to choose herself which card gets turned
>>273151832>Are you a virgin?>Do you have shoes on?>Does the heil-ly troup run a train on you?>Do you prefer women?>Have you showered in the past 12 days?So many questions. If you're going to lose anyway then make the best out of it and ask all the dirty things you can do.
>>273151832She said you can ask her however many questions you want, just keep asking questions forever.
Hideout update: Two doors behind Moren's desk
>>273152803isn't that because she's scared of cheating?
Kurapika will join Tserriednich's private guard and seduce him. Chrollo infiltrates level 1 to steal Tserriednich's ability and almost succeeds but he's chain jailed by Kurapika in the end. Slowly, Tserriednich and Kurapika fall in love with each other. Kurapika then learns about Pairo's head. He then assassinates Tserriednich the next time they have sex using what he learned about his abilities so far.
>>273152847Until Nobunaga comes to rescue her.
>>273151869She says she allowed it a couple of times already, meaning she played this already multiple times.Maybe ending with a Yes is the condition to change Contagion targets once they are set?
>>273152646if she says no they'll just let her go and she'll forget the experience but she reasonably assumes that they'll torture or kill her so she doesn't bother asking
I wonder if this game even finishes or if Bork will start stalling towards the end and get "saved" by the PT
>>273151869>what questions do you ask in this scenario?I'd waste my questions to ask her embarrassing and intimate things
so how many chapters will this game be?I imagine for each question there will be multiple pages of Bork analysing all the possible implications and outcomes, so I expect at least 2 more chapters worth of game
>>273152939>Q:a; can I lick your feet?>Q:b; can I suck your toes?
>>273152850Funny how close Nobunaga and Hinrigh got to Morena, she was probably sitting right around the corner just out of frame.
>>273152893>if she says no they'll just let her go and she'll forget the experience where did you get this?From what I understand, we don't know what happens if she says No, but she presumes she's gonna get tortured till she says yes or dies.This is why she considers No and Joker as losing cards to end up with.Also why she expects the Parent No card to just reveal horrible tortures that would scare her into choosing yes.The only win is the X and the R to get back the X.
>>273152415How long would she last?
>>273151753ざわ。。ざわ。。
>>273152989I was just making up a fun scenario.Everyone who plays assumes that No leads to being tortured or killed so they avoid that answer while if they just asked about it they'd be able to leave safely.But if the game is a nen game with a set of conditions it would bind both players so the answer no might actually make it impossible for Morena to force her to join against her will
>>273152850Phinks and Feitan are gonna reach the abandoned transmitter room and eat shit
>>273151832Fucking hell I know we were memeing about Morena's gaming chair but she actually has gaming consoles right there. It literally IS a gaming chair.
>>273153090Go Back Girl will make them go back
>>273153103gamers rise up
>>273152561Yes. I am my own subject.
>>273151832I want to lick Gelato's legs now
>>273152945It's possible that we will get a skip with Borksen back with the other guards, and the events of the game will be revealed later.
So the biggest plot question to this game is would Phinks and Fei Tan reach here before or after the game concludes, right?
>>273152961>QA: Can I like your feet?>QB: Why not?I'd look more like this
>>273151846Yokotani confirmed Japanese then
>>273151832Literally two consoles behind her.What games are they playing on them?
>>273153212even if they do, they might be stuck in front of a door unable to enter for a while so the game could continue even with the 2 retards at the door
For a nen user the card game could make sense because of conditions and shit, but for a non nen user like Bork it must be really confusing
>>273153247they're pretty cucked either way since they can't attack first in Yokotani's presence
>>273151856Morena is filled with gamer rage
>>273153212I think 'the danger coming to both sides' means Phantom Troupe. So if they arrives before the game ends, they will die. So the game will end and they will escape the hideout or they will use Bork's new ability to counter Phantom Troupe.
>>273153264Bork's not dumb, she can already tell there's some supernatural shit going on that she's attributing to this "Nen" she's heard about. She just has to keep up, cause this game has a lot of fucking rules.
>>273153271Technically they just have to kill him before he activates the ability. If they fail to kill him before he activates the ability they would get kicked out. However his ability can activate on trespassing, it just doesn't scale quickly on trespassing. It's not like Yokotani's ability protects him either, he was being protected by someone else.
>Borks ability marks the beginning of the end so it will be the catalyst that will start the whole ship's downfall.>They need her to not say no (implied to be the card game) to get her on their side They will use her ability to sink or crash the ship to gain an unbelievable amount of points(will probably be too broken) or to cause chaos everywhere so they can all go on a killing spree without being stopped by the law most likely targeting the princes because they are worth 50 points. For the people saying this is just filler are fucking stupid. This is literally the calm before the storm moment.
>>273153327>Yokotani getting killed only activates some post-mortem nen that makes the hideout completely impregnable
>>273152850Thanks for updating this! I wonder if that thin rectangular room connected by two doors is the same one most of the Heil-Ly members were at in chapter 393, right after Luini was killed? Though they only show one door in that scene. I'm curious about the other rooms, too. Notre mentions a cleanup room in 394; maybe it's the same one, since there were a lot of corpses there? It must be different from the disposal room based on his conversation. He also mentions room 3131 being relevant, though we haven't seen it yet afaik.
>>273151869This was a good chapter, fuck the faggots
Who do we like more, Gelato or Gobackgirl?
>>273153547>GobackgirlIt's not even close
>mfw reading this absolute dogshit chapter>mfw the next chapter will just be a continuation of this shit
The depth of Togashi's autism never cease to amaze me.
>>273153215Morena looks like the type of chick that likes having her feet licked>>273153212
>>273153547the one and only
>>273151869Am I stupid, or did Morena not explain what the parent's yes and no cards do?
>>273152921Where are the updates for this batch?
>>273151846They keep calling it "a certain region/ethinic group". Is Togashi embarresed that he named it Jappon?
>>273153753You are stupid.
>>273152364It didn't filter anyone, it's just the type of chapter that attracts the shitposters that are here and will always be here because they have no lives.
>>273153753Togashi's troupe TL is bad there, you just ask what happens if you pick Yes and No at the end
You are not straight. Yes or No?
Morena pregnant with my child.
>>273153666An entire chapter of Morena's cuteness and a fun, ominous card game.
Sounds like Borkson will be far more vital to Morena plan than just a spy on Tserriednich.
Calling it now Morena is Nasbui and Duazul daughter who got screwed over by Halkenburg adoption.
>>273153962She got lucky. Look at how retarded Cammy turned out as royal prince.
Jesus Christ, another new convoluted filler subarc.
This doesn't seem like a very fun or interesting game.
>>273153962Mhh, that would be a good twist if Morena was an actual legitimate heir.It could also tie in with the whole Netero child plot, like the Netero child got switched out for Morena.
>>273153962She was stated to be a daughter of his mistress in a narration box, so I doubt it.
Morena is not an interesting characterHeil-Ly are jobbers
>>273153847Hai.
>>273154083Beyond is the mistress
The Heil-Ly aren't jobbers some of them are sure. But that's like saying other Meruem, RGs and some Squadron Leaders the CAs are jobbers.
Man when I read the Chrollo vs Hisoka fight, Kurapika inner monologue and now this...If I were in this fucking boat I'd be the first to die, my QI is too low for this shit
The cards on Morena’s side weren’t explained, right? Or did my eyes glaze over?
This has to be the most contrived horseshit filler I've ever seen.
>10 chapters every year>2 of these will be wasted on a fucking card game no one cares about
This ability is strictly connected to Contagion.>One of the cards is directly related to explaining her nen power>She says she already played this game multiple timesIt's not a random game
>>273153351Not happening, faggot only realized he had a sword stuck in his skull just because he was saved by Terebellum.
>>273154216>2this game will last at least 2 more chapters
>>273154175Some of them are, Luini was.
>>273151709Otocin might know Nen and just not have told any of his mates.
>>273154196they did>ObjectiveShe has to explain her objectives in the war and why she brought Borksen here>PowerShe has to explain her nen abilities in full>Yes?Explains before the end of the game what happens if Borksen ends up saying Yes>No?Explains before the end of the game what happens if Borksen ends up saying Yes>Question AAsk any number of questions, Morena responds with Yes, No and "Yes and No" >Question BYou can pick this after Question A, you get her to explain one of her answers in full>DealMorena proposes Borksen does her a favor, if she does, she gets to reshuffle a card from the graveyard into play again
>>273154299>No?>saying Yessaying no*
>>273154299I'd go Power first to see if the card game is related to her abilities.Then I'd go No, to check if choosing No is a valid option or a trap.After that I'd choose depending on what she answered to the first two options.
>>273154299Question A seems the best opening play to me
>>273151846Togashi btfos EOPs.
>273154201>273154000Why do retards call anything that doesn't involve troupetards and a pedoclown a filler?
>>273151832>the longer this game goes on the more dangerous this becomeswhy does she keep saying that?
>>273154299Oh, then I think my problem was something else entirely. Thanks.
>>273154420Spiderchad here, please don't lump us in with clowncucks.
>>273154444Phinks and Feitan are coming
>>273154299>objectives in the warnope. Just her objectives in bringing Bork to her side
>>273154444Because she knows that the spider is on their way to them.Either because their hideout was infiltrated before or because they have a tracking or oracle ability.It might be possible that the spider will just kill Borksen together with the rest of the Hei-Ly straight away.
>>273151673Boring ass chapter
great another yap X yap chapter. fucking hell togashi was on a roll but he had to focus on a card game
>>273154578>yapLose melanin.
>>273154216Someone said it lasts til 410
Ermm where is the nen fighting...?
>>273154229post the full image
>>273154663My dad works at Shueisha, it lasts until 420
on what basis is killua the most talented zoldyck. the only unique about him is his hatsu. how are they determining how special he is.
>>273154216The assistants seem to take around 2 weeks to finish every chapter and serialization began last time after they finished 5, so the Hiatus should be around 3 months this time.At least until 430. I imagine 430-431 might take years like the last one. Until Togashi finishes the script.
>>273154756By the flexibility and tightness of his asshole.
>>273154800I think he'd already taken care of that for a few chapters after 430 some months ago.
>>273154756Probably determined it through all the training they had them do when they were kids.
How does this manga compare to modern bangers like Sakamoto Days and Dandadan? I bet the series lowkey kinda fell off after what was covered by the anime
What IS Morena so angry about?
>>273151839Interesting that Togashi chose to highlight the reaction of those two members. The pro-gamer I get, but why the mercenary transporter?
>>273154922niggers
>>273154922She needs to be dicked
>>273154922Roy stole her pancakes.
>>273154922It's that time of the month
>>273154838When did he confirm that? He did say he finished "the next 40 chapters" during the almost-4-year Hiatus. But that should only cover until 430.It should be easier to write the 431-460 chapters now that the plotlines are condensing, but it should still probably take him months.
>>273154922no one wants to play vidya with her
>>273154922she got assblasted at fortnight
>>273154843How would they determine how good he would be if he didn’t even know Nen when they made the statement, unless they have a Nen ability to assess talent? I’m guessing Togashi didn’t fully develop the concept of Nen until Heaven’s Arena, because there are a few inconsistencies in the series pre-Heaven's Arena. We'll never know, though, because the series is never going to finish.
Random thoughts>Morena's time rush could be either due to awareness the troupe are on their way to her and Borksen's nen type is essential to ensuring Morena's victory, or recruiting her is pivotal to mindbreaking Tse in some fashion>It's likely all cards will be exhausted else the explanations this chapter are for nothing. Therefore, Borksen will first learn information about Morena before being driven to take the most important card for her safety. >If this game's conditions must be religiously followed, all of Borksen's questions and requests could result in her alliance with Morena, but with so many restrictions imposed from this game that she only acts as a detriment to the army and could be its undoing.>Similar to what Killua did with getting Alluka out of the toy room, there is nothing stopping Borksen from asking "You will do X. You cannot decisively answer with "yes AND no". Yes or no?". Seems like the technicalities behind the subject of the question will work to Borksen's benefit. >Borksen also has nothing stopping her from asking a question that requires prior background to explain. Such lengthy questions could irritate Morena further than she already suspects.
>>273154972On Twitter this year, he said he finished storyboards up to a good point, whatever that means. Probably a chapter that ends with a 0, so at least 440.
>>273154887It is completely different. HxH is like 60% character interactions and worldbuilding, 30% introspection and 10% action. Most arcs have HUGE casts and the protagonists are often 2-bit players in the overall story.
REAL Yugioh is back
Sooo what has to be resolved yet?>who will arrive from Cammy's guards to Pikas lessons>Silent majority>Hisoka finding Bono>Who the hell gave Hisoka tier 1 access>Halkenburg mission>Marshal Law>Kurapika and Tubbepa meet>Melody murder plan>Sneedreidich beast and theta>Chinese coins marketI know I forgot a bunch like what is even Cammy up to.
>>273154491Didnt we just find out in chapter 405 that the Char underboss is actually working for Morena as an informant? Was revealed explicitly after the three troupe members decided to go after the Heil-y head on so I think its implied he's warned Morena that troubles coming.
>>273154699She monke
>>273155071Remember when Wing showed Ren before Gon and Killua knew nen, and Killua fled to a corner of the room? Remember that both Killua and Gon learned Zetsu before being introduced to nen? Killua certainly showed similar abilities when he was training with his family, he was well aware of his brother having an aura he could sense, he just didn't know what it was, nor could he see it. That stuff was used to suggest his talent with Wing. Besides that his physical ability, mental acuity and general will were all good. All of that together suggests that he would have great talent with nen.
>>273151682stairs shot looks taken straight out of 40k
>>273154972
>>273151878>he forgot that morena will cheat
>>273152130It's so fucking great man, togashi keeps surprising me
>>273155231>Who the hell gave Hisoka tier 1 accesshe's a hunter and a rich and popular martial arts superstar. He might well have just bought a ticket A lot of the other things will probably be resolved at the same time
>>273152086>When every character does the same "hmmm allow me to break down and analyze this potential edge-case loophole in detail" they all start to blend together into the same meta-character, that being "The Author".Exactly. Togashit sniffs his own fart-autism too much. He sets almost all of the characters up to have the maximum amount of logical complexity and IQ just to "make it interesting" when he introduces needlessly complex power systems and it's ridiculous. It's pseud because1. you don't need to come up with 10 different rules/regulations/explanations to make something complex, you just need to set a foundation of logic (the nen rules) and then allow the readers themselves to piece it together AS LONG AS Togashit himself is willing to make his characters obey the rules and NOT introduce more rules or exceptions (post-mortem nen, "First come first serve" nen negated by powerwank)2. normal people do not think like this. 95% cannot sit there and remember a card game's explanation with just a single verbal explanation + mentally compute the odds of the card game + simultaneously try to figure out the motive of the card game player (to a card game they have never heard about) all in one streamlined conversation. It's Sherlock Holmes IQ wankery to write characters like Einsteins. It would've been realistic to have Morena write her gay card game rules onto paper and then allow Borksen to figure it out herself. Morena is going to cheat anyway through her parent requests (because there's no way she doesn't know about Borksen being close to Tserri) and we know that Borksen will be taken over by Contagion so what's the point of wasting the reader's time with a card game that will be forgotten about after its done?
>>273152086>When every character does the same "hmmm allow me to break down and analyze this potential edge-case loophole in detail"How can you say this when you have retards like camilla?
>>273155529>95% cannot sit there and remember a card game's explanation with just a single verbal explanation + mentally compute the odds of the card game + simultaneously try to figure out the motive of the card game playerI did just by reading the chapter. You're just a little mentally disadvantaged, sorry anon.
>>273155475Tier 1 is reserved for the political elite of Kakin and the V5, as well as industrial representatives and those brought in by the royal family. Tier 2 is for celebrities and the rich. As a floor master he would end up on tier 2, unless he was sponsored by a member of the royal family.
Chapter 420 will be a Luzurus chapter, calling it now
>>273152086I think it's just the media. I like the anime much better than the manga. Reading all these endless details is so boring.
>>273155625>reading is too hard!>reads subtitles
>>273155562You didn't, but you can continue to larp as a "Hunter scholar" "soft-seinen chad". The game itself is not complicated at all either and not what I was criticizing about, it's how Togashit writes the characters (how they think, process information) that I can't stand. >you're a soldier (a relatively low ranking one at that) and were abducted by a mafia family>you're put in a room with the leader and her underlings who coerce you to play a card game you've never heard of>you have no clue about the what's and why's for this woman to make you play a card game, which seemingly has favorable statistical odds and with the "guarantee" of no cheating through verbal communication (since Japanese has a different subject-verb structure to other languages which was the analogy Togashit was making)>but somehow, you are expected to parse the game's rules, the mafia leader's motives, the pros/cons of each of these choices all so calmly, so quickly while under duress
>>273155529>He sets almost all of the characters up to have the maximum amount of logical complexityThat's not true. Also a lot of characters come to actual wrong conclusion>allow the readers themselves to piece it together Are you serious? even with tons of detail said you still get people here being confused. You cannot let "readers" piece it together in a complex game, that's only possible for minor details.>normal people do not think like this. They aren't normal people. Also, it's possible. the game is very simple and anyone with a college level degree can do this in one read
>>273152086>Did he really need to get into how responses to negative questions can be interpreted either way?Yes, because it's an important function of the game especially when Japan flips the usage of Yes/No. It also characterized Nobunaga, Yokotani, Hanzo, and Morena as she refers to herself as her "own subject".
>>273155655Didn't these soldiers go to the academy with a fucking prince?Why wouldn't they be smart?
>>273155642Reading is not hard, but it gets tiresome when you see the next manga page and your eyes instantly recognize that it has like hundreds of words on it. When in anime you don't know how many lines a dialogue or any kind of exchange will have so it's not as jumpscary. Like >>273151709>Ah fuck do I really want to read all this mostly meaningless talk from some literal npcs?you know
>>273151682Imagine having to carry this fucking coffin up there
>>273155655I did. The game is very simple you retard and you can calculate the odds easily as bork has only 5 cards. What's exactly difficult?>>you're a soldier (a relatively low ranking one at that) and were abducted by a mafia familyBorksen is a first class private solider. Who has been introduced as intelligent person from the getgo (she made a connection from the tattoo artist to Morena.)>>you're put in a room with the leader and her underlings who coerce you to play a card game you've never heard ofA simple card game.>>but somehow, you are expected to parse the game's rules, the mafia leader's motives, the pros/cons of each of these choices all so calmly, so quickly while under duressThe game rules are simple, the only thing that is "difficult" to parse is the leader traps (ie lies,cheating and her advantages)Also, private first soldiers are trained to be calm under stressful situations.>it's how Togashit writes the characters (how they think, process information) that I can't stand. Many of those process the information wrong. Also, we're not meeting normal people here again. And as that anon above said, many of them think and arrive to a wrong conclusion.I'm sorry, your points are just dumb
>>273155700Do you not understand how people actually think?You are passively reading the rules of the game and the thoughts of the characters. Try doing this with maximum competency in a high stress situation (which Borksen clearly is in) while trying to figure out X, Y, Z simultaneously. This is not how people operate, period. Mental multitasking under these circumstances is nearly impossible. And I understand that Togashit wants to get it over with and move the story along so it's "better" for him to just write his Gary/Mary Stu's figuring it out quickly rather than more realistic scenarios of character's "umm-ing" and "huh-ing" and "Crap, what did he say again?"
>>273152561>No. The chapter is nice.>Yes. The chapter is nice.both answers work
>>273155708I actually agree. I love reading and dialogue heavy things and don’t mind things being slow paced (in fact I kinda love it), but manga pages overflowing with text kinda take me out of it and interferes with the flow of the panels and the way I experience the action (I mean action in the broadest sense here). I feel like its a thing with the medium where it just doesn’t work as well as having a super dialogue heavy anime or movie or a very long novel.
>>273151740Why is she always sitting in her gamer chair?
>>273151673>coffin dance meme
>>273155831Scene instantly ruined
>>273155795I play new board games all the time, this is no different really.Guess you're surrounded by retards in your life.
>>273151869I think Borksen made a smart decision here by asking that she get to be the one to flip the cards.The child cards are face down and shuffled, so Borksen can't actually influence what her last card will be, but it does mean that she can force a stalemate after asking 4 questions instead of 3.Borksen has 4 ways to end the game:1. Draw the last card2. Forfeit and say yes3. Forfeit and say no4. Do nothingRemember, forfeiting only means she loses the freedom to say anything but yes or no, which she loses anyway if she doesn't draw X or R.She can ask 4 questions before flipping the card with her ultimate answer.Learning Morena's purpose and ability would be nice, but Borksen can't use that information to win the game. The deal card is 100% a trap.All Borksen can actually do with her questions is make her decision as informed as possible.So she should start with QA, ask 2 irrelevant questions, and have her final question be if taking too long would be bad (she already knows it is).Next she chooses QB, and asks Morena to elaborate on what happens if they take too long.Third is choosing Yes?Fourth is choosing No?Now Borksen will know what every outcome is, can reliably force one of those outcomes, and can choose her preferred option.If X and R aren't in the last 2 cards, Borksen can just choose which of the 3 reliable outcomes she prefers.If X or R is one of the last 2, and the other is the better between yes and no, or the Joker, and the better option is better than waiting, she can go all in because she's just flipping a coin on the best and 2nd best outcomes.The only way the decision becomes hard is her last 2 cards are X/R and the worse option between yes and no.All of this assumes the Heil Ly members surrounding Borksen don't cheat, of course.
>>273151869I don't know who these people are
>>273155839You are retarded enough to not even understand basic English seeing as how you did not address the actual complaint at hand.Anyone can play a shitty card game with the rules laid out and I never said the card game is "too hard"
>>273155529do i really have to tell you we're not dealing with "normal people"? and everything about the card game and its presentation are prerequisite to Contagion, whether as part of the psychological conditioning or requirements to the ability's functionality. if you want a complex ability you need complex restrictions, and Morena is a full-on autistic gamer.
>>273155795Isn't maximizing competency in high stress situations a pretty important part of being a soldier?
>>273155921the card game isn't her ability but the gamer girl's, and morena gave everyone contagion after she asked them to kill the other gang members in her welcoming ceremony. this game is for the means of controlling borksen completely against her will (more like making them accept their beliefs).
What's her favorite video game?
>>273155795... retard how do you think soldiers, spies, and high level body guards operate in high stress situations??? they fall back to their training that has prepared them to for these moments. just because YOU can't do it, doesn't mean others can't.
>>273155814>but manga pages overflowing with text kinda take me out of it and interferes with the flow of the panels and the way I experience the actionYeah, I think you worded my thoughts better than I did. Experiencing the action is a good choice of words. When you turn over the page your eyes immediately recognize how much words a page has without even reading any of them, so in a way, all that dialogue hits you at once even before you start analyzing what each letter means, so it kind of fucks with your perception of experiencing the action, indeed. First and foremost, your brain doesn't recognize it as a dialogue between multiple individuals, but as a barrage of words rather than some discussion between different parties. If you could somehow read each panel by itself without knowing what comes next, then it wouldn't be as jarring I would think.
>>273155795blud is mad there is no one piece this week, kek.
>>273155871I think the only way for borksen to win is with X or R card though. She wants to leave not force a situation that would make her staySo her chances of winning are 40%
Is this a(nother) Kazuki Takahashi tribute?
>>273155965>Isn't maximizing competency in high stress situations a pretty important part of being a soldier?Yes and no. The closest would be something like an astronaut or an air force pilot operating a vehicle under high stress (a malfunction per se), but the key here is that they are trained for MONTHS if not YEARS to do this task over and over again and to problem-solve on the fly based on memorization of their training. That is realistic.
>>273156008You are pretty retarded and definitely a Hollywood slop watcher if you think "spies" and "soldiers" do this shit, lmfao.
>>273156067The game is not that complicated, my guy. Please shut the fuck up.
>>273156067No retard. They're trained to be calm under stressful and sudden situationsYou think marines and special forces just scream and run around like a normal person does when they get shot out of nowhere?
>>273151793X seems like they just kill them lol
Did Togashi just read Kaiji?
what are the best shots of morena's morenas?
>these retarded "Hunter scholars" incels think Marines and "soldiers" are subjected to gay IQ tests while Ahmed is blasting them with rockets, and think Togashit's Sherlock pseud-wankery is realistic.>Borksen was able to quickly deduce that Morena is "angry" through (yet again another) logical leap of faith or assumption and this is supposed to be realistic to the Huntercel who had to read the card game rules 10 times before he hopped onto the thread to gloat about understanding it onceLmfao.
>>273155910stop crying and accept people can understand simple games explanations and think about the game they're about to play while listening
>>273156142He's mentioned FKMT and Kaiji in an interview years ago
>>273156146>get mad>avoid replying but make a seething post>reveal your true nature of shitposteryawn, how many weeks is Oda on break this time?
>>273156088>>273156146yeah man Kakin is intended to be 1-to-1 reflective of the real world, sorry bro i completely forgot
>>273156146I can tell you are brown and upset
>Dude is seething because he can't calculate 2/5
>Bro, you're dumb. I watched this Hollywood movie of spies doing mental tasking and Togashit is a genius. Bro you don't understand the card game. Bro, stop complaining about the characters being "smart", this is how it is in the real world
>>273156142
>>273156146You done, yet?
This chapter is the beginning of Morena x Borksen love story
>>273156192your coping is embarrassing
>sees a character with an IQ above 110>becomes extremely confused and angrylol, lmao really
I'm willing to go along with this because it's implied this is what morena has done with all of her followers, and I'm really curious why so many people are following someone who is trying to commit mass murder.
Why can't they just play mahjong like normal people?
>>273151856>The parent has 7 cards>The child has 5 cards, thus the odds are already significantly against the child without question>Borksen still fell for the trap of fairness of the card game since Morena cannot use word play to lie to herWow, nice writing
>>273156192>midjutsu kucksenWould it have helped your comprehension if Bork had taken on a costless Binding Vow to instantaneously understand the card game?
>>273156250>I'm really curious why so many people are following someone who is trying to commit mass murder.There are hundreds of thousands of people like this irl
>>273155529>He sets almost all of the characters up to have the maximum amount of logical complexity and IQWhere does this idea come from, he does a good job with varying the characters logical skillsVery Intelligent (doesn't mean they are always right)>Rihan>Kurapika>Hinrigh >ChrolloVery competent>Balsamico>Furykov>NobunagaCompetent enough>Benjamin>Borksen>Zhang>Theta>MelodyNot very good at this>Basho>Kanjidol>MizaistomAnd obviously characters in this setting will skew towards being smarter, since that's what's expected of them to make it here in the first place.
>>273156293Yeah espeically in this arc.If you want "normal" people then the HxH exam would show it
>>273156146How does it take a logical leap of faith to figure out that someone is angry? Usually you figure that out based on their body language and tone of voice. That should be, by far, the simplest thing to figure out in her situation.
>>273156146>>Borksen was able to quickly deduce that Morena is "angry" through (yet again another) logical leap of faith or assumptionThis is a valid complaint. Ignore the card game or how a soldier acts in these circumstances. Why does the author have to have the character figure out a character's motive the first fucking thought that comes to them even if it's not the first obvious answer to them and its sprinkled in with the wrong answer? It happened with hinrigh and bono killing the stomach punching whore as well.
>>273151869Nah, I'd lose
>>273156302He's autistic anon.
>>273156268>The child has 5 cards, thus the odds are already significantly against the child without questionHow would Morena having less cards change Bork's odds you retarded snkek nigger? She's the one picking them and the game ends when she has only 1 card left. Morena could have 100 cards Bork has to choose from and her odds of victory would be the same.
Killer Chad Magician vs Emo Fag
>>273156293This isnt true, he writes the characters as either full blown retards who know they are retards like gon or master manipulator jokers running around
>>273156302So not only are you retarded but you have autism at worst or excuse bad writing. Nothing about Morena indicates she is angry at le world I wanna kill everyone. She said absolutely nothing about her motives to Bork.
>>273156358Borksen never said she's angry at the world though
>>273156146good bait desu
>>273156307Do you think it's impossible to tell if a person is angry?Because if so, that would actually explain a lot.
>>273156358Yeah, that's why Bork is wondering *why* she's angry since she lacks information and context. Did you read the chapter?
>>273156268not only that but Morena straight up told her that she is allowed to shuffle the cards how she wants, how is this shit even remotely fair and why would borksen play this rigged shit?
>>273156380You cannot know someone emotions from their face huntertard unless they cry or yell
>>273156358>Nothing about Morena indicates she is angry at le world I wanna kill everyone. She said absolutely nothing about her motives to Bork.What? Bork says "What in the world is she so angry about" you actual fucking retard
>>273156293this but also he's not going to depict uninteresting scenarios, which falsely brings one to this >>273156339 interpretation that all characters are either retarded or geniuses because who the fuck wants to read about absolute normies doing normalton things? if you want to see normal people, then look at the worldbuilding art panels strewn across the arc filled with normies walking around and eating mall food.not to mention there have been numerous characters depicted in this arc that lie between normie and genius, but it's usually because they're interesting enough to highlight their quirks. several guards, mafia members, etc.
Mafia chapters are the worst
>>273152307The purpose of the game is for what happens during it to occur. The conversations that take place, the choices that Bork makes, will influence the view of the other person's of the situation and of their opponent.>>273155871>can reliably force one of those outcomesHow? The cards are face down, she doesn't know which the last one will be.
>>273156358Borksen didn't deduce that she was angry, she was curious what Morena was angry about. There is no deduction there, she simply reacted to Morena's obvious, to her, anger.
Is Borksen even close to Tserriednich? Seems more like she's just Theta best friend desu.
>>273156420Oh point out the evidence she uses to get to that, mister overlord.
>>273156358at least I hope it is bait
>>273156405Do you listen to yourself and your excuse-making?You cannot even make the logical connection from A to B as to WHY Bork would think Morena is "angry" here. Why would that be (coincidentally) the first thought that pops into Borks head when trying to figure out a motive?
Borksen will be a genius Nen user. Honestly I just can't see Morena not cheating it's clear Borksen vital to endgame on the BW.
>>273151753https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JHIVsFdIic
Borksen is secretly nen GOD
>>273156473She's not trying to figure out a motive you retard.Also you seriously cannot tell or feel if someone is angry or sad IRL?
>>273156436She can force a yes by forfeiting and saying yes.She can force a no by forfeiting and saying no.She can force whatever Morena is in such a hurry to avoid by sitting and doing nothing.The only outcome she can't force is a definitive win.
>>273156339Melody, Basho, Feitan, Izunavi, Zhang, Babymina, Coventoba, Sakata, Theta, Momolly, Maor, Luzurus, Kacho, Hanzo, Bisky, Bill, Cheadle, Saccho, Tajao, Keni, Machi, Phinks, Franklin, etc.
>>273156358damn
>>273156473>WHY Bork would think Morena is "angry" hereSee >>273151839>based on her gestures, expressions, and tone of voice
Nobu is going to kill borksen, so it's not in her interest to wait either
Borksen is Piyon's sister
>>273156473>Why would that be (coincidentally) the first thought that pops into Borks head when trying to figure out a motive?She's reacting partly out of shock because of Morena's surprisingly intense answer to her request, which confuses her. I'm going to ask again : did you read the chapter?
>>273156539So again, you have autism.Nothing about Morena's BEHAVIOR indicates anger to a reader in this chapter. She has said absolutely NOTHING to Bork about her motives and has clearly made it a carrot-on-stick to Bork as one of the rewards of the game. So either you can chalk this up to female "emotional gut instinct" retardation or you have to have a more reasonable thought process for Bork.
Not sure how to feel about the chapter. Do we know If theres a break or not next week?
I hope Feitan grill and sizzle these bitches and their stupid card game.
Borksen is Quwrof Wrlccywrlir sister
>>273156591There's no break, he has already finalized 409
>>273151673>another chapter where nothing happens
My favorite thing about Pisstard is that he's physically incapable of typing the name "Togashi".He NEEDS to type "Togashit", even when he's trying to falseflag, but he somehow thinks it's not obvious.
>>273156588I think he has telepathy desu, be careful
>>273156613You can just tell he's a neet pathetic loser who's trying to shit on HxH for some retarded "goal" in his mind.It's quite pitiful. mental illness is a wreck.
>>273155529>>273155655wan pisser thinks a simple card game is equivalent to a PhD in theoretical physics
>>273156146>>273156146>supposed to be realistic to the Huntercel who had to read the card game rules 10 times before he hopped onto the thread to gloat about understanding itwow, this is some insane projection.Out of curiosity, what was so hard for you to understand the first time reading it?
Morena always sitting in her gamer chair is so fucking funny
>>273156613He's the same dude who's been here for weeks you can tell with his writing style and reddit spacingHe also "quit" reading HxH last few threads but somehow is still reading
Did Morena play this card game with all of the Heil-Ly?
>>273156683She was playing Mario Kart while Nobunaga and Hinrigh raided the base
>why does this character with traits indicative of high nen potential, with an affinity denoting high intelligence, carefully selected by people who literally sniff out and hunt such traits, the best candidate amongst a crowd of thousands of people, have above average intelligence?
togashi sistas…I ain’t feeling so good…
>>273156486We hope so
>>273156695I doubt it. There's a lot of people who just want to join so she can skip this game
It's good to know Morena will be the cause of the great filtering this week.
>>273156008what kind of training prepares one for playing a card game with your life on the line
>>273156658
>>273154699I hope this will get longer and longer kek
>>273156146good job on pissing off the hunterbabbies
>>273156486maybe it's just that getting a friend of tse is a requirement for an ability they have, kind of like chrollo has to steal important treasures to upgrade his ability
>>273156147Can they do that with a gun to their head?
Is there any website where the chapter is available in english pls ?
As somebody with a Phd on political streaming from one of the top colleges in UK, I can admit I had to read the chapter at least thrice to fully understand the card game. So I can understand how the average HxH read can find this chapter frustrating and boring
>>273156293Mizaistom is literaly a 2-stars crime hunter chosen by Netero himself to be part of his elite team. I know that a lot of people here love to bash the Zodiacs despite the fact we haven't seen them do anything yet and we have no idea of the amount of stuff they have to handle in the background that might make it impossible for them to focus on the Hei-Ly, but come on.
Is Togashi really making a high IQ arc just to justify the slaughter that will occur on the dark continent? Good luck trying to use a card game on even one of 5 calamities before you wish for death. I like this arc but man they are so fucked if Issac could somewhat make it the first time
>>273156888Morena is not going to make it to DC
>>273156738>In order to filter this dung heap of a board... I can keep trying a little harder...
>>273156888Even if you’re an old fag, Issac was in his prime. Good luck
>>273156873Anon just scroll up to the top of the thread
I just want to see monsters and shit fuck this gay ass boring pseud wank snorefest
>>273151673It's not a surprise, but Togashi being a Kaiji chad makes me happy anyways
>>273156766kek. probably the same poster as in this thread
>>273156936so your argument is finally whittled down to this, eh?
>>273156302I'm angry too but no one cares about me because I'm a moid, I should have been a pretty foid like Morena
>>273156936Drop HxH then and relieve us from ur stupidity
I love one piece bros...
>hey ball thing let’s do a card ga->head gets cut off >body used a soliderDark continent kino when
>>273156952>schizo arguing with a boogeyman this shit is just not interesting >>273156971nah
>>273156993you were thoroughly destroyed, anally agape
>>273156968>I'm angry too but no one cares about me because I'm a moid,What makes you angry, anonymous? Something recent?It makes me angry to hear women complain that men don't understand them, but that they understand menIt makes me angry like you have no idea
Borksen is going to win and leave. However one of Morena's guards has an ability to clone people, so she's already cloned.
>>273157028not as destroyed as the entertainment value of this manga>b-but m-muh pseud deconstructionarinoYAWN
>>273156968I want to lick all over Morena's delicious flat chest so fucking much it's unreal!
>>273157097the cope continues
>>273156936Did you skip CA or something?
>>273157134>admits to copingI feel you bro, hackogashi needs to pull a it was all a dream and just wake everyone up on the DC
>>273157163>>273157134
>>273157137this shit is not comparable at all, stop coping
>>273157181stop replying to that retard anon
>JUST IGNORE IT HUNTERSISTERSI just want to be freed from this fucking yawnfest boat hell
>>273156885The only zodiac who is retarded is Kanzai.
>>273156541>She can force a yes by forfeiting and saying yes.>She can force a no by forfeiting and saying no.That's both a loss though
>>273157224yeah it was a boting chapter
>>273157185They were monsters from the DC. How is it not comparable? That was THE monster arc.
>>273157282ok retard, boat arc is still boring
>>273157317Stupid fuck didn't read CA, AHAHAHAHA!
>>273156420Bork and the Tserri Squad already know enough about Morena and the mafia war to know that Morena is deliberately trying to destroy the system through anarchy and mass murder.At the end of 394, we see them starting making a plan for if one of them is captured. That’s probably why Bork feels so prepared. She didn’t think it would be a card game, but she probably expected negotiating.
>>273157365>going full retardit’s tough
can you stop responding to the obvious retarded bait?
>>273157431yeah, the CA deflection is incredibly retarded because that arc was entertaining and not boring as fuck
Bork is so smart bros, much smarter than a dumb animalistic moid
>>273157409If there was no negotiating then they would probably either>coercively manipulate her>kill her>torture her for info>imprison her with no interactionThere's really no reason or way to prepare for the first two options. The third is not good but a standard possibility in war. The fourth would be ideal and would need her to start gathering info and working on an escape plan, almost the same situation as a negotiation but with less social subterfuge, most likely.
>couldn't resist ousting xerself as a shitposter
>>273157457Aha keep crying and reading anyway pussyboy
Morena stated literally a chapter ago that shit will hit the fan the moment they find a guard I don't get why some people are pissed any chapter featuring morena is entertaining
>>273151856Why IS she mad
>>273157523again, just ignore the obvious bait. You are ruining the thread by draging it out with a pointless discussion with someone who clearly only wants to shit the place up.
Why do shounentards seem to harbor an inferiority complex regarding Hunter and its fans? Does every thread have to devolve into a salt mine filled with cheap gotcha moments and lowbrow insults?
>>273157565>good at hiding her anger>figures out Morena is angrySubtext bros we won again
>>273155078>force Borksen to force with Morena>Borksen is compelled by the game's conditions to lie to Tserry>Morena's plan falls apart because her crew delivered a woman instead of a guy
>>273155235I wonder if he played the game too. Maybe he even managed to win using Morenas revive card and his X card, so he has to inform Morena about spiders coming for her as "little favour".
The beginning of the end.This better be fun and chaotic
>>273157594There are discord servers full of schizophrenic retards dedicating their time to astroturfing and shitting up discussion about games, series ect on several boardsMental illness is ubiquitous on 4chan
>>273151793The express clarification that she will be allowed to leave with X means that it's the only card that counts as a "win" for Bork. She can say Yes or No but in both cases, she loses.
>>273157645Honestly that's not a bad theory. Maybe he isn't fully in with Morena.
>>273157564I don't think we are going to get a proper explanation for a while. I would expect that to only come pretty soon to when she gets taken out. That said I expect her to die and get revived when someone hits level 100. So with that expectation I don't think we will get a complete explanation of her motives until a bit after that first death when the story starts to get into explaining her post mortem nen, and the two will be tied together.
I liked it.
>>273151856It's interesting that Morena gets to draw a card. What cards are in the deck? Does the drawn card get added to Bork's deck? If not, then it's irrelevant, Bork can just not choose it. It seems like a pointless detail which means it must be important, unless this is a quirk of this translation.
>>273157564She is angry at Roy
>>273156409>why would borksen play this rigged shit?What can she do? refuse? she can't
>>273157743Me offscreen on the right
>huntersisters in total meltdown because the boat arc is boring as fucking hellat least when togashi is on hiatus you can just remember the good times and not be reminded you’re reading a boring slog and never reaching the DC
>>273151869the reason bork requested to flip the child side cards herself is because of fear morena will have some kind of ability to know each card from their backside alone. however, this possibility was covered in the answer to the cheating question earlier, where bork saw in morena's eyes a deep resolve to not cheat. so why the fear? am i misunderstanding?
>>273151673I stopped reading this garbage series after Gon left lolChimera Ant arc was the best arc btw
>she's still sperging out
gamer morena and her stupid dollar tree e-cardo are no match for borksen (wifesen)
>>273151869You need to understand what a "No?" and "Yes?" answer entail, but you really don't that many turns so you only need to pick one.The other option is time stalling with "QA" and "QB" or picking "Power" to understand how dangerous the situation is (Knowing "Purpose" is mostly useless same as "Yes?" and "D" is detrimental)So in order of usefulness"No?" > "Power" > "QA" > "QB" > "Yes?" > "Purpose" > "D"
>>273157813from bork's pov why not play it safe and choose the cards herself? It's a way to make sure she has some influence in the game and is not a straight up victim to whatever morena wants to do with her.
>>273157831some people just can’t accept this succession war shit is boring and just want to ignore it, truly sad
>>273157232One is more of a loss than the other.We don't know which, but that's the point of asking.
>>273157855I think morena will corner and force borksen's hand to pick D
>>273157829>snkek>having shit taste and being retardedThe most iconic duo.
>>273152384>>Morena might be considered a prince as well since she's part of the royal lineage, if that is the case her ability might grant the full payout for killing her. If Borksen becomes affected by contagion and kills her, this would immediately get her 50 points.I don't think morena is going all through this trouble to kill her. A better option is getting random people from the ship and killing them
>>273157869right but the child side will surely be shuffled and then dealt face down so there is no way that borksen can know the identity of the cards. it's basically a completely neutral decision assuming neither side knows the cards identity. a psychological reprieve at most.
>>273151709togashi is obsessed with letting us know how logical his characters are. he takes that too far. you could cut 3/4ths of the dialogue on this page and their beliefs about borksen being captured would still seem justified.chill togashi jesus christ. when this is adapted to animation the director had better do a good job cutting out the nonsense.
>>273151846>no, I won't cheat. I am my own subject.>my subordinates will though lol
>>273157979How can they though
>>273158071nen
>>273151753This whole set up reminds me of the "E-Card" section of Kaiji.
>>273152086I think what's pissing me off the most is that every random grunt is this super high level iq strategist
>>273157855there's a value to the purpose card if the purpose is more complicated what we and borksen assume, which is "we know you're a specialist nen type and we need one of those. that you could get close to tserri is an added bonus." like maybe morena is willing to only have bork as an underling for a short period. she would do a specific task for morena as an underling and then relinquish control. bork's memory would be wiped after relinquishing. not that this makes any sense. was just trying to come up with an alternative to your pretty correctly reasoned order of priority for discussions sake.
>NOOO STOP IGNORING MEUnsuccessful troll is unsuccessful
>Hey anon can we play Mario Party? I swear nothing bad will happen if you lose...well /a/ your response?
>>273151858This is the kind of autism I read him for lol
>>273158142>This is just like Kaiji xisters!we’re reaching all time levels of cope
>>273158257So if I want something bad to happen I have to win?
>>273151765I didn't notice the consoles behind herShe's a true gamer... Why do you want to destroy the world, Morena... Is it because games are getting shittier by the day... Just play indies...
>>273151858A whole chapter spent explaining an ability rather than just playing the stupid game and explaining along the way I cant believe togashi hasn't learned anything after miura died. Now he gonna die before we even see half of this shitty ass arc
>>273151832um bros people said the hiatuses give togashi an advantage over other mangaka in crafting a good story but i think he just uses his free time to invent stupid card games
>>273158284>nooooo how dare you compare a chapter in a manga were people play a card game with a chapter in a manga were people play a card game!!! there's nothing in common!!!!!!
Imagine playing this with your kids>>273152939smart move. she'll think you're a retard and she'll no longer want to ally with you>>273157971totally agree
>>273157855the purpose is important though. Possibly the most important.>we want you to report tse's movements to usand>we want you to detonate a bioweapon on the first levelare completely different purposes, and saying yes to the first would be easy, and saying no to the second is a no brainer.
>>273155814>>273155708I don't think it would be as bad if we fucking gave a crap about the person talking or what they're talking about.Hisoka analyzing Chrollo's abilities could be lengthy in text (for a battle) because we cared about both characters, but this is just fucking nothing holy shit.
I hope he doesn't chicken out, this game better last a while
>>273158417>weSpeak for yourself fag
>>273158417it's just you. Anons who aren't retarded fightfags care about all these characters
Ok faggots just reply YES or NO to these 3 statements:>Togashi can do no wrong.>Hunter x Hunter has 0 flaws.>Every chapter this batch is 10/10.
>>273151869Meh I liked the interactions but I don't give a flying fuck about the game and its rules.Waiting for the real deal in the next chapter.
>>273151856Glad to see that Morena isn't a filthy cheater like Chrollo
>>273158142clearly, Borksen saying she expected 4 Yes and 1 No might even have been a reference
>>273158484NONOYES
I wouldn't mind the pacing, this level of autism or even the entire arc if we had chapters every month or something. Hell, would be my favorite arc even. But we have exactly 10 chapters every 2~3 years. So no, togashi can fuck right off.
>>273158484
Don't worry guys, E-Card only took 50 chaptersThis is just one round instead of five, so in 10 chapters it'll be done!
Is this anon going to cry out all day? Anyway, I'm looking forward to next chapter to see what borksen will do
>>273158553chill out anon. the pace of release will be whatever it will be and the story should not be rushed to fit whatever that pace is. togashi has accepted this is the last arc before he's done. he wants it to be as fully realized as it can before he quits. allow him that peace instead of bitching all the time.
>>273151869This game seems pointless but it's literally just Morena's further characterization. This page >>273151846 already did this, and this game is literally "le epic mindgames!!!" so we'll see more of her, specially if the Bork asks her relevant questions about her past or personality.I feel like she might die very soon, assuming the game continues the next chapter.
>>273158311Think she's ever played picrel?
>>273152850nice job anon
>>273158687Morena's backstory is that she played that game once and got radicalized.
>>273156968If you aren't pretty as A ManYou wouldn't be pretty asA WomanStands to reason. Genes will fuck you either way. Whatever made you unhappy and a joke ofA person Right now - will still remain.
>>273156293Mizaistrom isn't stupid, he's literally being fed all the wrong information at all the wrong times while trying to manage the capacity for crime on the black whale.
>>273157971Thinking that she may have been kidnapped with a nen ability isn’t that far of a reach.Especially since they know it gives ‘super powers’.But if he correctly guessed that Sodom has a hypnosis ability then I’ll give Togashi a side eye.
>>273158712She should've played Postal instead...
HOW MANY CHAPTERS WILL THE CARD BATTLE LAST???FUCK
>>273151839>the goons are shocked at her question of cheatingYep, they're cheating
>>273158807Fifty trillion.
>>273158841it doesn’t look like they’re shockedmore like, ‘how dare you ask that!’
Thematically a character like Morena can only work if she was a hamplanet whale but then nobody would be interested in the mafia subplot
>>273158841it's just raised eyebrows. it could be the tone question was asked in or the volume it was asked in. this is a group that has lied to grind exp before but i don't get the sense their leader would cheat in a game.
>>273158920Not everyone ugly is angry or not everyone angry is ugly anon...
>>273158920The only fat Morena needs is on her chest, this bitch is flatter than Kalluto
Flat lives matter
>>273158355>werehuntersisters…
>>273158469I'm sorry, I actually did not know possible for humans to care about Tse's childhood frens.
I’d rather have this than ever see a Melody chapter again. Melody chapters are gun to the head tempting
>>273151765>>273158311
>>273151753These scrubs are the least threatening looking group of enemies. Monkey guy, 2 small girls and a doughy middle aged man.
God I hope Togashi finally dies and someone else like Murata continues this manga and saves it.Imagine if Togashi died after this chapter, here's what I would do.>Beyond: "The person I want to speak to is... GON FREECS!!">Gon gets teleported with a nen ability to the black whale>Beyond makes Gon go back to adult Gon power thanks to some conditions>In an EPIC double page spread, we see Beyond still chained to his cell and we get introduced his nen ability "Great Demon Pact">He can make wishes come true but he gets powerful Nen every time someone gets a wish granted by him, we see him in his true unleashed nen form here with horns and black tattoos on his body>Hisoka finds out adult Gon is on the ship and we have an EPIC fight for 3 days, Hisoka survives and Gon goes to swim above the Black Whale with a rope and accelerates it a lot>We find out Morena and the Hey-Li got killed off screen by the spider>Chrollo also stole the 3 treasures in the meantime and gets a new nen form with the buddha clothes and the Kakin sword>Chrollo has an epic fight against Hisoka (who also got buffed by his fight with Gon) and Hisoka comes out on top, killing him with a gum-gum pistol attack (tribute to Oda-sensei)>Without the treasures, all the princes stop fighting except Tserriednich>Kurapika finds Chrollo's book on the floor and picks it up, now he has all Chrollo's abilities and fights an epic fight against Tserriednich>Kurapika finally defeats the prince and dies in Gon's arms because he used his lifespan>However Killua appears and says he's already been to the dark continent with Alluka and gives him nitro rice, Kurapika comes back to life!>The ship arrives to the dark continent and Beyond unleashes his full power and declares he wants to rule the entire world>Gon, Killua, Leorio and Kurapika now have to stop him
>>273159082>Botoom
ngl anons.this is the chapter that filtered me into a speedreader.no idea how the hell this card game works, no idea who is gonna do what to win how. but hey, morena is cool ig.
>>273159111I agree
>>273159111>Beyond makes Gon go back to adult Gon powerUmm actually Gon should be able to go to his adult form at will but it would be tiring or something
>>273159111>Hisoka survives and Gon goes to swim above the Black Whale with a rope and accelerates it a lotlmao
>>273159082WorldEnderCHADS, let's destroy it all just because
GAMERS FUCKINGRULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This chapter is pure togashit, but, I guess togashi is “different” for a shonen author, aka Araki when he was still running in WSJ. You never know what to expect, and sometimes (most of them time for Togashi) it’s shit.
>>273159082>rise up gamers>text bottom
>>273159111>Hisoka survives and Gon goes to swim above the Black Whale with a rope and accelerates it a lotim dead :skull:
>no mention of hiatusxhiatus in wanpiss thread>meanwhile hiatustroons can’t have a thread without mentioning wanpissWhat did wanpiss do to live rent free in your faggot’s head? Is it because of your inferiority complex?
we aren't so childish to go shit another series thread like you, sorry
Kaiji is good but I don’t read HxH for this shit
>>273159103They're like dolls. Hardly any emotion, no idle animations, as still as boards.
I thought last week's chapter kinda ended too abruptly, but holy shit, nothing fucking happened this time.A girl got kidnapped, Morena talks to hear about playing cards. Literally two locations are shown in the whole chapter and it's just people talking about something that will happen in a future chapter...What the fuck
>>273158213>>273157855>there's a value to the purpose card if the purposeWhile there is value to know the final "Purpose" you can sort of tell by the current Hei-ly actions that they are staging a wholesale massacre of the boat or a revenge/coup on Kakin royalty.Sure knowing HOW they plan to do it MIGHT be nice and give you clues to stop them IF you can win the game.Regardless of THE answer we know (Same as the rest of the cast) that killing Morena is the only way to stop her ambition so the details of her "Purpose" doesn't matter.OTOH "Power" might be actually a better card simply because you can scope the limits of her abilities and can prepare for it betterContagion hatsu might have an steep "price" if conditions aren't met and you might gather that from the card."D" MIGHT only be useful if it's your second to last card
If you didn't like this chapter you're not a real HxH fan
>>273159103Togashi broke his ability to design interesting looking side-characters during the Chimera Ants arc.Even some of the princes look weird as fuck. The people who took the hunter exam looked cooler than them.
>>273151673>yapper x yapper
>>273159441Nothing has happened the whole batch outside of Halkenburg shooting that black guy and Melody handing out letters. Literally everything has been setup, talking about future events, or lore dumps that haven’t lead to anything.
>>273159441This is why mangas/animes are an inferior storytelling tool: they always constantly need something happening in them every chapter or they're "bad" or "boring" for most the audience.I'm glad Togashi does what the fuck he wants with his story without being conditioned or forced by editors or anything else.
>>273152086>Did he really need to get into how responses to negative questions can be interpreted either way?Yes, I've always wondered about why mangas respond in the negative now I know 10/10 togashi reading my mind
I feel like Borksen’s best option is to just pick QA and stall until the Troupe or whoever arrives.
>>273159482>If you didn't suck Togashi cock you're not a real HxH fan
>>273159293>mentioning wan piss twice is enough to make this faggot lose his mind
>>273159482I’m a Kaijichad and I hated it
>>273151699I actually have one comment hereWhy do they assume "worst case scenario" is being kidnapped and not being murdered. Why are they so certain about that one posibility?
>>273159509no shit, you would also find books boring if you were only able to read one page of it per week or movies if you could only watch 10 minutes per week (at best)
>>273158209it's more a reader's tool imo, you have a whole week to think about it, it would be frustrating for you if the grunt didn't know what will seem obvious to you a week from nowalso bjork was introduced having 400 IQ
>FKMTkino out of nowhereI won
>>273159531All of your threads mentioned wanpiss hiatustroon, even when pissfags don’t care about you
The Japanese threads can be stupid but at least they don't get raided by 10 IQ discord trolls
too much words, not enough STRONG NEN
>>273159545In fact reading manga chapters weekly is a dogshit practice. I do it with HxH because I truly enjoy it even when following this format (I wish it always did instead of going in Hiatus kek), but with everything else I read 40-50 chapters in a row.
People are upset that there aren't enough retards on the ship?
>>273159293>wanpiss on hiatus>shitposting increases tenfold A simple coincidence surely
If Morena gets outplayed by this one soldier I'm gonna be a tad upset
>YOU DONT GET IT ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BORING YOU JUST NOT HIGH IQ ENOUGH HEHEthe final cope
>>273151729>Too much Gelato>No waist.
>>273159569Oi, oi!
>>273159696hackogashi will never be this kino
>>273151856borksen probabl escapes but gets infected with contagion....tse and his people should notice it though
>>273159647>Tse's friendHer IQ is around the 500s (Tse's is around the 1000s).
>>273159441it's a set up for next chapterwe'll get how Contagion works (all the details) and the next steps for Morena, + more info about Morena
>>273159734>next chapter>chapter on LEORIO and CHEADLE opening up another subplot
>thread hates the chapter at first>thread now loves the chapter
>>273159571I know you're a butthurt pissnigger seething incoherently but look here>>273132839>>273134805>>273128212>>273128235>>273128278>>273128738Just in one random thread from the archive
>>273159780No we don't
Look at this fucking idiot
>>273152364she's stylish like a main character now
I didn't know there was a manga war going on
bork
>>273159734>it’s setup >its setup>its setup>its setup>its setupLike clockwork with your troons
>>273159792>seething this hardI see the huntercel aren’t taking these massive flops of chapters too well
>>273159571Why are you lying, any form of criticism in a wanpiss thread is often met with the ol' "hunterfag" or "dbspic"
>>273159814she wants to destroy the world because she's a flattie, grim.
>>273159792It never ends btw>>273099333 Ctrl+f "hxh": 11 resultsCtrl+f "hunter": 11 results
Martial art
>>273159875you can stop arguing with yourself falsflagger xis
>>273159912>>273159792>>273159875It's pointless arguing with him, he already knows he's wrong, he just wants to shit the thread.
This chapter calmed me down so much. I was worried a bit with how quickly the things were escalating in recent chapters to the point of thinking that Togashi may actually rush the story to reach some type of conclusion but it doesn't seem to be the case.
>>273152701Yes, I disagree
best way to handle this is next chapter jump to this fodder bitch immediately accepting contagion, and bring in an actual interesting character to play the card game. this would show that>1: morena can easily win the game even against someone who tried to arm themselves against its tricks>2: servitude to morena is tied to the outcome of the game>3: this isn't the person dogman is looking forthe problem isn't the card game itself, but rather how inconsequential the rules/results of the game are. they're ultimately just a device to explain morena's goals/power but i can't pretend to care about the game itself when the outcome simply doesn't matter.
>>273154922his favorite game got a dei remake
>>273159869>seethe about stupid shit>get proven wrong and btfo>n-no, you're the one seething!cope lol
>>273153847>No, I am straight
wtf is this chapter all we got its just card game he better write some shit before the back cancer come back
>>273154922flat tits
>>273159792Holy fuck these threads are awful, nothing but fanart spam and waifufaggotry. It's no wonder pisstards are getting filtered by this arc.
>>273159969>no u seethingchapters boringarcs boringtogashi will never make it to the dark continent TRULY THE SUBVERSIVE MASTER
>>273153847as in homosexual
>>273154922people keep bullying her because she's flat
Your parents know you are gay. Yes or No?
>>273159998What do you expect? Warm piss has no story nor characters to speak of. Just fights and rehashed storylines over and over for 10000 chapters
Morena is flat lmao
>>273151765>Morena is a Famicom-chadDamn, i love her even more.
>>273159965the outcome does matter as we know converting borksen is required for heil-ly to get to their endgame, whatever that is. their plan accelerates a lot if they have her. naturally their plan will throw a spoke in the wheel of other plot lines including the succession war on t1. so it's the plot accelerating too, not just some group within the ship. isn't that what you guys want? for togashi to get on with it already?
>>273160022Is a warmpisser incapable of differenating opinions? Clearly it isn't boring for a lot of people here.>SUBVERSIVE What does that have to do with anything? you've been saying this the entire thread but this chapter isn't subversie nor deconstructive at all. Why are you so upset and stupid?
>>273159996>>273160043>>273160070She's even better because of it
>>273160141mosquito bites
>>273156766>>273156945another. It's really all wan pissers kek
>>273151869>Which sequence of cards do you choose and what questions do you ask in this scenario?I have a couple of guesses, one is that it's irrelevant and the true purpose of this game is if you go with the third choice:Drag things out as much as possible to increase the penalty, not worrying about the outcome.Basically, are you willing to self-sacrifice yourself in order to kill or inhibit Morena and protect the fourth prince?
>>273151869>playing card games against a bunch of unknown nen ability usersYeah, no.
>>273159811>shouldn't you go back?
>>273160186Shouldn't even be surprised
Would be better if that was russian roulette
>>273160130that’s right just bash your boogeyman to bury the pain of these chapters and entire arc sucking ass and the fact we’ll never reach DCyou really have to have a high IQ to appreciate this epic deconstruction!
>>273160062Yes, my parents know I am NOT gay.
>>273154216I can see this garbage lasting until 800 chapters and he’s like 70. Is Togashi retarded or senile? I can’t tell but it’s probably both
>he's STILL crying
>>273160355Bullshite
>>273159780Yes we don't
>>273159780No we do
This chapter is a dumpster fire
>>273159780Don't we Yesn't
This chapter is pure kino
This chapter is amazing
Wanpissers are madLow IQ fags are seethingThe card game begins
This chapter is the best for far, also morena is flat
>>273160475Is that how you cope with Togashi’s bad writing?
the worse the chapter is the more kino it is
Glad hunterfags arent pretending to like this arc any more.
>>273151812Finally someone understands parents
Morena literally says she has a timeline until Phink and Feitan show up. And those other guys are going after Hinrigh.Action fags will get their action.
>it's another mindbroken shonenspics seething about HxH episode
>>273159814Cute boy
>>273160494What bad writing?
>>273159696one poker arc is fucking kino of the highest order and im not going to pretend otherwise
>>273159509>>273159505I thought Halkenburg shifting bodies was a nice change of pace, "the succession war speeds up!" as Togashi put it. Lmao. Shame that is currently being interrupted by the mafia storyline... Oh well, it's not that I dislike the latter but damn.>>273159509Well, I don't recall him ever doing that before. An anon was posting 2 chapters of the SW per day here before the new batch released. It never felt like the chapters were lacking. This is the first time I've felt like 'oh shit, really nothing happened'.
>>273162315neon feetsies
>>273162315I want to fuck Neon's perfect soft bubble butt
