Why do people like tsunderes?
>>273312203Kensuke is so lucky
>>273312203>>273312213Oh, look a reused Asuka op image with a template OP and the /dbs/spic as the first post. I wonder if this is a spam threadshttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/273105536/#273105536
>>273312213>rebuildscringe
>>273312203as long as there is payoff
>>273312213QRD on the Kensuke schizo? I've seen him spam like 20 threads but outside of that I don't know shit about him/
>>273312409Kensuke won in the end, this makes Shinji self-inserters and Asuka lovers seethe furiously.No matter how hard they cope, it's canon
>>273312203only effeminate cucks like them
>>273312437He's a /dbs/spic who spams Eva threads. Usually samefags 90% of time. Usally after she shits up a thread he'll post "why are eva threads like this"
>>273312441
>>273312203
>>273312486Meant for >>273312409
>>273312409Holy shit, meds.>>273312486>>273312503It took one post and I already know why you Evafags hate the retard
can we drop this topic and go back to OP's question?
>post ShinjixAsuka content>YIPPEE KENSUKE IS SO LUCKYDoes the Kensukeschizo just have a massive cuckold fetish? I don't get what else he could possibly mean by this.
>>273312589why are you still talking about this?are you the president of his fan club or something?
>>273312543But do people like them? Old /a/ had both people that liked them and hated them. Very few tsundere are actually good characters.
>>273312501yeah, it's the contrast
>>273312624Weirdly enough I feel like people like them more now than they did back in the dayNow it's seen as endearing (to an extent) whereas they were seen as annoying back thenBut then again, not all tsunderes are made equal, some are legitimately unlikeable
>>273312313Is Asuka even a "proper" tsundere?Because her problematic behavior isn't exclusive to Shinji
>>273312203>signing a drawing with his fucking patreon
Tell me the truth anon, would you be excited if you found out that a girl or a guy just masturbated beside you while you are hospitalized?
When I was around 8 I asked a girl in my class if she would show me her asshole and she got upset and slapped me real hard in the face. My dad told me girls hut boys because they're in love with them (I didn't tell him I asked her to show me her asshole). So for the longest time I thought she was in love with me and would eventually show me her asshole. Tsundere girls kinda remind me of her and it brings me back to my pleasant childhood.
>>273312904>When I was around 8 I asked a girl in my class if she would show me her asshole
>>273312888I'd be pretty frustrated that they'd rather jork their penits by themselves rather than be with me properly
>>273312203Not anymore hence the decline of tsundere winners and why Shinji ended up with Mari instead (and why it needed a real mature man like Kensuke to rein Asuka in)
>>273313457Shikinami is the boring version of Asuka, who cares?
>>273312543Kind of hard when the faggot is spamming this thread >>273313457 and the other Eva thread
>>2733135321)he's a /dbs/spic report him 2)he doesn't vare because he just want to spam3)bring up Shikinami everytime he hows up instead of reporting him makes you a retard4)report him
>>273313543>Kind of hardIt really isn't
>>273312376Who would be dumb enough to write a tsundere character with no payoff?
>>273312639>ImageThat actually sounds pretty tasty
"I can fix her."
>>273313899I can though
>>273312437You should see the other thread. It's mostly him replying to himself >>273314013
shinji is a survivor of sexual violence
>>273314098I missed the part where that's my problem
>>273314207>image that always gets posted>new hashMaybe stop spamming Kensuke cuck
>>273314250You're eerily obsessed with this guyYou even keep trying to steer the conversation back to him over and over, and that's just as bad as spamming bait in the first place
>>273314091You can't even fix your hair, tsundere would devour you alive
>>273314207>Ponytail AsukaOkay, now I'm erect
>>273314403Nta but I just brushed it, I can help a tsun.
>>273312203They fun. More so than generic dereblob, at least.
>>273314399you are not fooling anyway. The fact you keep reposting Asushin art with a new hash every time proves you are him
>>273314403That's over the fucking line, buddy
>>273314595>you are this guy because you're posting the opposite of what he postsThat's some shoddy detective work, I recommend you seek professional help
>>273314448This. Winning someone over is more rewarding than having someone fall from the sky directly onto your lap right before they start fellating you in every sense of the word.
>>273314434good taste
>>273312959Hahahahabwahahahabahabbwahahaha
I don’t think shinji, kensuke, or us could fix Asuka. She’s going to still be a huge bitch once she gets comfortable
>>273315807Weird since Kensuke actually did fix Asuka.
>>273315807>I don’t think shinji, kensuke, or us could fix AsukaBecause she doesn't need fixing
technically, i am a tsundere too...
>>273315965Are you a tight-bodied redheaded hapa as well?
She’s a bug
>>273316042no, i am a hairy caucasian man
I don't like tsunderes. I like correcting tsunderes.
>>273315807But could you fix a moon in the lonely sky without removing its inherent soul?
>>273315841Rebuild future kensuke is a completely different character to the og anime
challenging / loyal / great sex / fun / spicy / needy / cute
>>273312203Because they want to pretend the girls that reject them secretly like them.Which is half correct, they do (subconsciously as natural whores) want to be sexually ravaged by them, but they also very much dislike them. Girls love to be raped by pigs.
Tsundere is a massive cope that the girls that are openly hostile toward you actually like you.Also, there's the conquest fantasy of turning that hate into love.Tsundere lovers are sick in the head.
>>273316359Tss tss, tell us how you really feel, anon.
>>273312203>Why do people like tsunderes?>maybe that girl that treats me like shit actually likes me!!1!!1!this is not the case.
>>273316359Girls don't act openly hostile to guys they aren't interested in. They simply pretend they don't exist. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy.
>>273312203Feet
>>273316359>there's the conquest fantasy of turning that hate into love.It's super satisfying and cliche, but most people (male and female) have this to a degree. I think it's because we psychologically want to rationalise the rejection everyone commonly receives throughout our life. Our failures. It becomes a sexual complex. This is why tribes and states conquering other tribes/states often humiliate people.It's a primitive monkey thing really. It's how we cope with our savage reality around us. We beat the shit out of it or we seduce it (or both if you're kinky).It's really really dumb.But really really lewd too.
>>273315807She's not even that bad, honestly
>>273312543>posts gooner bait>is surprised when thread derails
>>273316526Yeah I'd rather be hated than ignored... is what I would say if it didn't get annoying with many openly antagonistic bitches around you. This is kinda how my society feels like to me nowadays and it honestly puts me off women.But then men do the same and it puts me off them.What do?
>>273316519I feel ya buddy
>>273316586She ain't Louise from Zero no Tsukaima.Literally put me off tsunderes even though Asuka was best girl for me.Comes off as grating and fucking annoying.Asuka is confrontational in a more sensible way and cute in comparison. She just wants Shinji to be a better man.
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>>273312409The "Kensuke schizo" is Anno himself.
Can I say something?Asuka in the rebuilds is fucking garbage and her fanbase warped her into complete shit. She had way more in common with Shinji in the TV series and had her own problems with rejection and being seen by people. Rebuilds just half assed it or didn't understand it.This is why Mari is dumb and unnecessary. Asuka was already in her role and she was much better at it. And she felt more human and had more problems.
>>273312959I think everyone flashed their ass at a kid at that age just to make them go "ewwww gross" or for a dare. Especially that weird kid that did it "a bit too much" who is probably now a furry or a leather dog in a gay parade.
I prefer desperate, clingy, psychopathic perverts with autism, personally. Or Goths, which are the same I guess.
>>273312203tsun<gap-moe>dere
>>273316863Rebuild took every part of Asuka that made her Asuka and ruined it
>>273312203What's with the 80s walltiling? Where the fuck are they even supposed to be, Jon Arbuckles's kitchen?
>>273317531People can't be straight anymore or they're homophobic??? That user needs to be hate crimed
>>273312203are there women that would allow you to do this?i would like to try to put on makeup and nail polish on a future gf
>>273317735just a heads up that person is actually a janny here
>>273312409It’s just your average shipfags. Shipfags are deranged spammers, but the jannies don’t do anything about it because they’re shipfags themselves.
>>273317531I hate Americans so goddamn much
>>273318061>Americans so goddamn muchHe's from Italy or some shit, he's a ESL
>>273317531Why do faggots always feel personally attacked when they see characters in normal relationships?https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=432022
>>273318016Not surprised in the slightest. Jannies here blatantly defend homo garbage and censors their opposition.
>>273312501Since when are beautiful and smart opposites? lol
>>273312849Does Asuka even have a "dere" side?
>>273312437>canonTo rebuild alone lol. Not to real EVA, or the manga. No, there is no time loop thing happening. It's not even the real Asuka.
Imagine a fat irl girl acting like a tsundere towards you
>>273312203I want to paint a cute girl's toenails too...
>>273319959Yuck
>>273318519Consider how she acts towards Kaji
When did you realize KareKano was the sequel to EoE?
>>273317754I had girls in high school that loved to put their makeup on me
>>273312203Built in character progression.
>>273317754yes and It's not even that uncommonallowing a dude to do things like brush their hair and paint their nails are signs of trust and closeness
>>273321084this is extremely cringe
>>273321169hey, you asked
>>273318519
>>273312213Is it a coincidence that Kensuke kind of looks like moot in the rebuilds?
>>273321084this is extremely cute
>>273320543>KareKano
>>273321381This is probably how Asuka would have acted in a normal relationshipShe didn't have to put on a front for Kaji because he's a "respectable" grown upWhereas Shinji is not only a kid but a meek one at that, so she had to put on a show of superiority towards him
>>273320485>>273321381But that's kind of fake. In any case I would consider Asuka to be deretsun.
>>273312409Kensuke wonmoot wonotaku won
>>273316758Yeah, that's an issueIf you overdo the tsun you end up with an obnoxious character
>>273322175>>273312213>>273312409TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMEN RIGHTS WONBBC CHADS WONME SUCKING BBC WON
I just wanted to know who the Kensuke schizo was and he's over her throwing a fucking fit over it >>273322175
>>273322347any reason why you reply to all his posts like an obsessed fangirl?
>>273322347He does that all the fucking time just like this >>273322492 him larping as a Asushinfag is also his thing. /dbs/spics man
>>273322173She's like a kitten that hisses whenever you to to pet it
>>273322492Okay, the fact that I've seen you keep crying about people who bring him up makes me think you're 100% are him>>273322599I know it's him. Does the retard think posting Asushin is gonna not make me think it's him when he bitches everytime some replies to him
>>273322492>>273322813Just to make you look more retraded
>>273322492Not gonna lie. I've been in these way too long because it's been a while aince I've seen the schizo concen troll while larpijg as a Asushinfag.
>>273323035Was that something he used to do all the time?
>>273323058Not all the time but it's easy to tell it's him. There's like no reason he keeps using Asushin art while pretending to give a fuck. Most Asushinfags just spam art to piss him off
>>273323186Troon spammer, shut the fuck up
>>273323186Kys
No matter who the anime girl I like gets married with, it will never be me. I just want them happy, t-that's all
>>273323186Why aren't you banned, Kencuck?
>>273317310Isn't everyhting in tokyo-3 supposed to be a bit of a blend of futuristic and old fashioned?like they have sliding skyscrapers but havenmt moved away from the flip phone
>>273318438They KINDA are you and you know it
>>273312849
>>273320035That does sound strangely appealing
>>273312639
>>273313899>>273314091...but I won't
it's cute and funny. what part of that is complicated?
>>273325364"Fixing" doesn't necessarily mean changing them fundamentallyMaybe it just means making them happy
>>273325511How is male abuse funny
>>273312639thats just centershock
>>273316992Gendo didn't deserve her
>>273326254People have turned Guts' rape into a big joke.
>>273326904They also did for Casca'sGriffith selling his ass to an old man is probably the one that gets brought up the least
>>273326254For me its when they both get abused
>>273326254lol what kind of ‘male’ is affected by it?
>>273312203I don't like tsunderes I just like 2D redheads, but unfortunately the two traits seem to go hand in hand far too often.
>>273327613The red represents a fiery personality, it's just one of those things
>>273312203Tsunderes have sexy legs.
Redheaded tsundere is a time honored tradition. I’m also amused and gratified by the fact that the attempt to replace Asuka with Mari as Eva’s premier girl has failed so completely.
>>273327674>red represents a fiery personalitypretty much
>>273312849She's a menhera but all her clones just copied her personality from the first few chapters she appears in and that became the standard for the modern tsundere
>>273327862The problem with Mari is that she's a nothing characterHer personality is boring, her motivations don't exist, her goals make no sense, her backstory is confusing and the most she does is usurp Asuka's role in the original story
>>273328018Yeah it’s like they forgot to make her interesting. It’s so odd that I wonder if it’s intentional. Like, there’s so little to talk about with her that people don’t bother, so it kills that part of the discussion for the end pairing. Maybe that was to force people to disengage. The effect however, is everything post-movie has basically reverted. The conversation around Eva has gone back to the original characters and their interactions.
>>273312409They're inexplicably a couple despite never breathing the same air until they're just together and asuka dreaming of him like he took care of her or something
>>273312203Betamales have such low self esteem that they don't feel comfortable receiving female attention unless it also comes with some kind of abuse tax.
>>273328432We're just gonna have to wait until Khara releases rebuild 2.5 to patch up all the holes in the story, like how it's possible that Asuka raved about a box lunch for 14 years straight if four eyes was supposedly taking care of herAny day now
>>273312203"aw you really do care"good in fiction, terrible in real life
>>273328558spirited girl + shy male is my guilty pleasure
>>273328432>>273328607I'm asking about the schizo. Why is that you fucking Evafags can't answer a question about somefaggot who spams theads?
>>273328747I don't care about your boyfriend
>>273312203Is it possible to write one that isn't retarded?
>>273328607It’s contradictory. She also rolls around in bed and muses about how alone she is while inside the same shed that is apparently her place of belonging. It’s like when two kids write half of an assignment but don’t trade notes. I seriously believe Asuka’s role is put together from multiple deleted scripts.
>>273328820But aren't girls cutest when they're almost retarded?
>>273328747New to Asuka threads. >>273328794>>273328860>>273328607>>273328432So most likely the same person. After the Kensue schizo who's a /dbs/spic we have this faggot who does nothing but spam bitch about Asuka treatment in Rebuilds which end up with him repeating the same shit every time
>>273312904>When I was around 8 I asked a girl in my class if she would show me her assholeI'm proud of you son.
>>273328432>ask about the Kensuke schizo>get random shit that doesn't explan why some retard keeps samefagging>>273328794>keeps downplaying the schizoI'm guessing you're the schizo
>can't get a can't get straight answer about a schizo>schizo starts concern trolling when you bring him up>retards refuse to answer a simple question instead answer with related shitAre Evafags this unhinged? I asked one simple question and I keep getting faggots crying about other shit
did you guys hear something?
never changed Eva threads >>273329119Are Evafags this unhinged?Pretty much. Anytime the schizo shows up threads always end up like this. The "concern trolling" is usually also from shitposters. Best to ignore it instead of acting like >>273329220.
>>273312690It's a combination of nostalgia from older fans, posturing from younger fans wanting to retvrn to 2007, and the modern tsundere being played more for comedy.
>>273329341Can you explain the fucking schizo to me then.
>>273316863The people who say this are BPD narcissists who see themselves in Soryuu.
>>273329491Which one? The Kwaoasu yume, /dbs/fag, the janny or the concern troll? Honestly those are the main ones.
>>273329491What is there to explain? Some guy from tumblr likes to spam memes about Kensuke and sometimes clogs the catalog when he sees something he doesn't like, mainly asushin artThis topic doesn't deserve this many posts nor this many tantrums
>>273327878Dragon Spooker is the best thing posted ITT
>>273329341Get those rags off
>>273328018>Her personality is boringTaste is subjective.>her motivations don't existMaking sure Yui's vision of the Scenario goes down without SEELE or Gendo fucking it up. Being there for Asuka.>her goals make no senseBeing a pro-humanity defector from the /pol/fag wet dream conspiracy doesn't make sense?>the most she does is usurp Asuka's role in the original storyThe only story beat she usurps is jobbing to Zeruel since Asuka replaced Toji in getting fucked by Bardiel. Thinking she usurps anything else is shipper/waifufag brainrot.
>>273329864>Being there for Asuka.She has a funny way of doing it, with the whole "watching Unit-13 kill her and barely reacting" thingAnd let's not even talk about the other thing
>>273329864Taste is subjective but a general consensus can be solidly stated. You mention the things she does in the movie, but WHY does she do the things she does? Why does she pilot Eva? Whatever you arrive at you have to kind of make up. The nuts and bolts of Eva discussion center around the characters motives, what makes them do the things they do. With Mari you just get static and conjecture where there is no material to work with. She does things because she needs to be involved in the plot to justify her being there. So she gets reverse engineered into things that are already going on. Which of course isn’t the same thing as motivation.
>>273328242>The conversation around Eva has gone back to the original characters and their interactions.Because Eva fandom has gotten so sclerotic and focused on the romantic lives of fictional teenagers nobody bothers to extrapolate on the exciting shit that must've happened during Anno's Deleted Affair.Fuck's sake, you have a full-on mutiny of NERV personnel, Kaji and Kaworu managing to subvert enough resources to make that mutiny into an outright rebel cell, giant space-whale ships, another Impact event that turns most of the planet into a no-go zone, and the existence of other NERVs actually doing things with the help of someone who is a part of Yui's simp crew that doesn't want to end the world. The shorts and the first third of 3.0+1.0 also show how normal people live in a post-apocalyptic world, revealing that life goes on even under unimaginable hardship. Toji becomes a war doctor like Fuyutsuki and knocks up Hikari, Kensuke becomes a useful adult, there is actual movement in this stagnant fucking franchise.But no. Never grow. Never change. Clutch the pearls of fandom wisdom interviews have debunked. Ignore the messages you fuckers say out of both sides of your mouth. Root in waifufag otakubait nostalgia like the pigs you are.
>>273330160>nobody bothers to extrapolate on the exciting shit that must've happened during Anno's Deleted AffairThe moment Khara admitted themselves incapable of telling a story without Anno's stress ball aka Shinji interest kinda deflatedPeople would still want to see what led to 3.0 but no one expects anything out of the rebuilds anymore
>>273312203Because angry sex is hot
>>273330160Are you retarded?
>>273330160I sense your frustration but most of what you mention is considered window dressing. For better or worse the ‘ships’ pull a lot of focus because the meat of Eva is the interactions and that angle is played up in the narrative itself. So that’s basically unavoidable. Maybe they can make a show about a day in the normal life during rebuild, but even that’s likely to be considered an extra.
>>273330160Are you seriously seething about why nobody talks about a bunch shit that either doesn't matter or isn't worth talking about because there isn't even enough info. Shipping doesn't have shit to do with that, most of this shit was going to be explained in 3.0 but Anno dropped it and forced a timeskip for no reason
>>273330398nta but the ships were always presented as just escapism, ways for the characters to not deal with their issues rather than some healing force, the people that focus on them exclusively missed the entire point
>>273330665nta but you have to be fucking retarded if you think Anno gives a fucking about shipping. the people that think this exclusively missed the entire point even when Anno tells you to your face
>>273328747So the movies randomly elevated ken to being her boyfriend who was always there for her all along despite that never being shown, and a lot of asuka/shinji fans didn't like it and other people shit post about to rub salt in those shippers
>>273330758>>273330665>samefag
>>273330758Are you the faggot from /dbs// I keep hearing about?
>>273330665It depends on how you approach it. I tend to see it in terms of dissection. In seeing how Asuka and a shin ju treat each other you can see what they both actually want, need, and aren’t getting from each other. This is often in opposition to what they verbally say, so watching the interactions is what reveals it. personally, I am not strictly an LAS guy but rather see their ship as a sort of dual character study
>>273328747Ignore >>273330758Non of the ships are canon
>>273330758>other people shit post You mean the one faggot (You). There is no other people most Kensuke spam is done by one faggot from /dbs/ who actually got IP wiped today.
>>273330748>you have to be fucking retarded if you think Anno gives a fucking about shippingAnon, he's literally participated in projects like NGE2, the game where you can romance every character, and praised doujins like epilogue of evangelion
>>273330974Hit submit a little too earlyYou have to be a special kind of tard to think that romance plays no part in a show that's about interpersonal relationships and isolation
>>273331035God damn it I forgot the image TWICE
>>273331075What is your DEAL!?
>>273330974>>273331035I didn't say shit about romance not being a thing. I'm calling the guy a retard if he think Anno actually cares about if people ship or not. Anno was always for the idea of someone being with Shinji for the end, Mari was planned form the start not because it would piss off shippers like some retards think. She was literally created because Anno wanted to end it differently and felt Asuka/Rei/Kaworu would be treading old ground.
>>273327862Anne of green gables was actually one of the inspirations for eva, strangely enough
>>273331523I grant you that’s probably true, but if so I have to believe there’s a way to achieve that without it coming off as a cheap joke in the end.
>>273325511cute?funny!?
>>273312849I think Louise is the first proper tsundere.I wouldn't count Asuka as one.
>>273331800The whole second half of the movie from after they leave the village to the end was fucking rushed because Anno wasted too much time on all his mocap shit and the village. There isn't a deeper meaning to it almost all of the shit in rebuilds was either done because it was different from NGE/EOE, done because Anno scrapped the original plans (the timeskip only exists because Anno wanted to switch up the setting to be different) or they didn't have enough time. I'm dine talking about these shit movies
>>273312313>>273327862Asuka is an abusive bitch to Shinji in both NGE and rebuilds. I don't understand why people like her.
>>273332420She was difficult not anywhere near as bad as people make her out to beMost she did was some mild verbal abuse and some slapstick violence once or twice
>>273312203>Why do people like tsunderes?It's an old trope based on women never saying what they actually mean in real life. It's a real behavior women still do, and it's why a tsun's natural complement is a dominant sadist who pushes through her bullshit to establish a relationship. So if you are a traditional guy, a tsudere is really just a representation of any typical girl out there, saying shit but secretly liking you. This is also why the trope/type is dying, feminism is killing any appeal tsuns have because you MUST take everything women say at face value (or see jail time).
>>273313827If you get two tsundere characters in love with each other, you just get an insult fest with no dere ever being shared. It's been done for comedy.
>>273332254>I think Louise is the first proper tsundere.Ahem
>>273312203They are submissive. It's not rocket science. Also, I wouldn't touch As*ka with a ten foot pole even for feet.
>>273319959Hell yeah
>>273332938
>>273332756I don't like how eva emasculates shinji and punishes him for stuff that isn't really his fault.
>>273327613I like this redhead
>>273332756Get real. She would be put in a correctional school for her batshit behaviour in a civilised country.
>>273333222Asuka is allowed to get away with it because she's a pilot, the only thing standing in the way of the angels killing us all.
>feet this feet thatDoes anyone even like other body parts anymore?
>>273333191That's lifeAll the kids are victims
>>273330267What happened was Khara originally had a plan for a third rebuild movie. Then the 2011 Earthquake happened, and it made Anno throw out all the plans he originally had. and we'll never know what that 3rd movie would have been,
>>273330267>>273330160>People would still want to see what led to 3.0 but no one expects anything out of the rebuilds anymoreAt this point Anno should just give someone else the reins to the eva franchise and let that new director give the fans the eva they wanted all along.
>>273312203Imagine if she farts in his face
>>273333365A little bit, perversion is a strange thing
>>273333365You don't get it, manThe most beautiful part of a woman is the soul
The gap moe between the harsh attitude and the dere dere
>>273330160>Toji becomes a war doctor like Fuyutsuki and knocks up Hikari, Kensuke becomes a useful adult, there is actual movement in this stagnant fucking franchise.And none of it is what the fans wanted to see. If a person orders a cheeseburger and get's sushi instead. It doesn't matter if the fish is better, the person wanted a burger. and the fans didn't want the last two rebuild movies.
>tsunderes thread>Evafags turn it onto bullshit about Rebulds Where that one faggot bitching about offtopic?
>>273333954Oh please. It’s a baited OP.
>>273333100>They are submissivewhat?
>>273334040Obviously.
>>273312203Before japs ever made the term tsundere the "badass with a heart of gold" is a very old character trope that's always been around. And it's this mix of edgy assertive attitude and down low sweetness/affection/caring that attracts people to such characters. They're "man of action" characters with "can do" tough attitudes but deep down they really care about their people. It's not hard to disect why people like that in person unless you're the type that's easily threatened by assertive/aggressive people. If you need to be babied all the time and only like soft spoken quiet timid types that don't trigger your insecurities than ya you're not going to understand the appeal if tsunderes.
>>273334794>unless you're the type that's easily threatened by assertive/aggressive peopleIt’s that combined with misogyny.
>>273316758Asuka is pushing Shinji because she's drawn to him but doesn't want a doormat. She wants him to 'chase'/etc. her.
>>273312904>When I was around 8 I asked a girl in my class if she would show me her asshole>I thought she was in love with me and would eventually show me her assholethank god I entered this thread
>>273334794Your average tsundere isn't that though. Taiga isn't that, Asuka isn't that, the "aloof badass" type was a thing in Kimagure Orange Road and male leads in Shoujo manga.What the post-1980 tsundere maps to is the idea of the coquette; someone who either blows hot and cold or is just cold, but the fantasy is warming them up. Asuka and Taiga fail at both forms of coquettetry because Eva's tonally all over the map and Toradora is garbage.
>>273335169>but then why would she be attracted to him in the first place?Because she's seen him being brave and bold, and the dissonance between when he's in and out of an eva frustrates her
>>273326988I wonder if Casca from the first half of the golden age counts as a tsundere
>>273335414She's 50% badass, 50% jobber
>>273335799I’d honestly prefer that she not even have to fight. I’d rather her be able to live happily and healthy, like at the end of the manga.
>>273336054damn, dude
>>273312203>>273316542>footslut char>a handful of good art existswhy? why can't people draw more of her instead of FOTM bitches?
>>273312409>>273312213>>273318047>>273328973Shinji ended up with Mari, and Asuka "ends up with" Kensuke, whether it's romantic or not. This isn't an opinion or a belief; it's a fact. You don't get to deny reality just because it's unpleasant for you.
>>273312501Swank digs.
>>273312203I like redheads. Asuka is a bitch.I knew a real-life tsundere, who gave me tons of grief and zero pussy. I don't care from them.
>>273312639Reminds me of warheads.
>>273336054this is why evangelion needs sex scenes. it's too dehumanizing without them. all these teens dying before they experience love is like, awful.the hero has to get laid before he sacrifices himself. no one wants to die an incel.
>>273337532it's actually not since the rebuilds aren't canon thoughever
>>273337543Skill issue
>>273312203Why are you making the same shit thread again?
>>273312203I prefer females to be the aggressors.
Man I used to really like Kensuke, nowadays you can't even say that without being called a schizo/cuck/spic/buzzword.
>>273338942I've considered Kensuke underwritten and was more interested in Toji.I think it might have been because I could relate to him more than Shinji.I mean, he can be shy sometimes, but at the end of the day he overcomes because he cares about family. This was back when I still had the energy to care for my family. I was also still playing sports.
>>273329341>Are Evafags this unhinged?Where do you think you are?Have you not seen the MC?He's a nutcase. He has trauma.
>>273337490>footslut charliterally how
>>273327878Why do people not appreciate Lina more than Asuka? She's far closer to perfection with "tsundere". She's playful, but shy about her feelings but then also happy when Gourry is ok and appreciates the support.
>>273324635God bless the modern internet's ability.
>>273335169>but doesn't want a doormatit's also that being pursed makes her the one with the emotional power and value in the situation, while pursing opens her up to the crushing possibility of rejection. they're both terrified of losing value somehow
>>273322679More like a sociopath that tries to manipulate people to get what she wants. I actually like that the MOST about her, even though I hate IRL (because it's most people around me including me to a degree). She's like that girl that is pretty, but the scene kids don't like her because she's easy to heat up and whom is a bit superficially "fake" herself because she's overcompensating for her flaws. That makes her realistic to me. You see the cliche Tsundere facade fall pretty quick when something goes wrong and you realise - she's a stone's throw away from Shinji personality wise. She just has a different coping mechanism. A very feminine one too. One alien to Shinji who is a boy who is forced to tackle problems more directly and without deceit (well back in the 90s, because men today are full of shit now and feminised).
>>273326503Agreed, though they do have much in common now that I think about it. But Gendo is just plain evil and lost. Mad.Ritchan just fell for the tricks her mother fell for and spiralled into madness herself too. That and she was oblivious to Gendo's vulgar nature. Gendo is actually the only completely unredeemable character in NGE. Poor fucking Shinji, his Dad was a total piece of shit. It's no wonder he turned out such a mess. But he also fucked up Ritchan, who had a fucked up Mom herself. For that I don't forgive the most.
>>273339125Slayers is more obscure than eva
>>273339032Fair. Kensuke's biggest contribution was he was dumb for wanting Shinji's life and still wishing he'd been in Toji's place afterward.
Gendo reminds me of those drug addicted neglectful fathers that beat their children.I feel sorry for you if you had a Dad like this. Mine was an idiot in other ways, but often he was too fatherly more than anything. Gendo is more like a someone who kinda wished Shinji never existed. The worst sort.He sees him merely as a tool for eva.
>>273339379He was just a normal old nerdy kid really. Not much to write about. Toji had problems but he was able to overcome them because his sister was his light.
>>273337532>deny realityWhy is it that Kensuke schizo always so the most retarded shit?
Asuka was someone that was so afraid of her weaknesses as a person, she vented abuse at Shinji.If it wasn't for some more intimate scenes, I wouldn't even consider her a "tsundere".She's a traumatised child that is psychotically obsessed with her image and her worth to people. You'd get like that if you thought your mom died because she considered you worthless. So she spits at Shinji to deny her own flaws and weaknesses. If shinji is successful, she's pissed. Extremely pissed. She's seen how timid and pathetic he is because of his traumatised turtle state. But more than that, she tries to flaunt herself to most others to exaggerate her idea of self worth. And most people in eva see her not that much differently to Shinji - crazy but kinda sympathetic. It's odd how characters in the show will also treat them like this. (That doesn't happen in modern shows btw, because it's fucking slop nowadays. They have these alien interactions with each other.)People trivialise her personality so much as merely "tsundere" that it actually pisses me off.She's as sympathetic of a character as Shinji. I feel bad for them both so much.Also Rei. I am horrified by their state of affairs and the shit they have to deal with as children. I was younger than them when I first saw this and I understood this much about them. I was like 8/9.It baffles me that adults watching the series still do not understand their bleak situation enough. The children in the show are not normal people living normal lives by any means.
>>273337532So are you the schizo because you're throwing a bitch fit over me asking about a fucking spammer? Who the fuck types "denying reality" when asked about a faggot who samefags and spams the catalog. Also, the only "reality" being denied is the one where you have basic reading comprehension
>>273339654Keep replying to him, champYou'll get him someday
>>273339712>seethes ever single time someone calls the retard outHoly shit, you've been crying all day only when someone calls the faggot out. FYI, you're the only one doing that and also bitching about off-topic shit in a thread that you've done nothing but bitch about a off-topic movie
Like I've seen western critics characterise her character as mere dumb "tsundere fanservice".What fucking show were they watching?This Asuka?This manipulative, cold, unsure, fragile, hothead?She's paralysed with the thought of failure as much as Shinji. Could they just not see that?Could they not see this timid creature with an energetic mask?Because I know Anno fucking couldn't by the fucking Rebuilds that's for sure. He just thought "nah I'll just make this dumb boring interest for Shinji instead with fuck all realistic personality".I love her, Shinji, Rei, Kaworu, Toji, Misato and Ritchan (plus Gendo as the real antagonist) so much it's unreal how much of a tragedy Rebuilds felt like. I still won't bother with the last film, I was already done by 2.0 and 3.0 was not that interesting really. 3.0 kinda just distracted you from the complex character mechanics that the original series and EoE had that rebuild lost.
>>273312639So just warheads with a tsundere anime girl instead of a cartoon kissy boy on the packaging?I SLEEP
Why is it the only good Asuka threads are the coomer when the schizos don't show up? This thread one that's supposed to be about tsunderes has become the usally schizos spamming, rebuild bitching and concern trolling. People have barely brought up any other Tsunderes and the thread because has been taken over by crying Evafags.
>Day 100000 to recall you Asuka it's not a Tsundere
Like to me, Asuka is merely a female mirror of Shinji in a female social context. Why do people not see this?Are they that distracted by her noise that they don't get why she's making that noise?
>>273339957People don't understand even One Piece. How can you expect they understand Asuka and Evangelion in general?
>>273312203They are fun when teased and when their whole tsundere act collapses. I don't like violent tsunderes though, because the protagonist never puts them into place.
>>273337532>anon, asked about a schizo.>get a schizophrenic delusional response about denying reality Kek, never change /eva/
>>273339322>she was oblivious to Gendo's vulgar nature.BASED ON WHAT?
>>273340039i didn't mean that to be all caps oops
>>273316586Asuka isn't bad. None of the kids are bad. They're all just broken and they need something from each other that the other person can't give.This anon sums it up perfectly: >>154276944
>>273339956>ISELB>phoneposterName a more iconic duo
>Why do people like tsunderes?Gap Moe. Also, keep in mind multiple archetypes are referred to as tsundere, one often incorrectly.You have your classical tsundere who goes from tsuntsun to deredere. You have your bipolar bitches that can't be honest and flipflop randomly between tsun and dere. And then you have tsuntsun bitches that in denial masochists go for and call tsundere even though they never have dere moments.There's also verbal only tsunderes who are fucking hilarious. You know the type.>It's not like I'd like you to take me instead of dinner or a bath or anything.
>>273340118>They're all just broken and they need something from each other that the other person can't give.i don't believe any of the eva pilots are incapable of giving each other orgasms
>>273340135I'm not the kensuke retard btw
>>273339956She's a sociopath with trauma to explain why she is like that.Way more complex than that mere trope. Tsundere is Louise from Tsukaima.Asuka might genuinely resent Shinji because he reminds her of her own weakness and fragility. She is female Shinji and she knows it. Eva 02. Eve to Adam. She's the individualistic human mirror to the objective and deterministic angel, Kowaru. Why the fuck did anno ruin that thematically by adding a random girl to things? Of course that would make people misunderstand the point of her character as mere fanservice. Really she's the feminine counterpart to Shinji to examine human fragility in their struggles over God, over their situation. I often think Anno subconsciously developed most of these characters and so when the rebuilds happened and he had to think about them more consciously, he didn't get it. He was a changed man. So now eva is just a Gundam ripoff with aliens now, instead of a look at the human condition (which ironically Turn A does better than the rebuilds). Clearly he no longer needed Asuka and that's tragic considering she literally says "no one needs me" in her traumatised hell. Him rejecting Asuka is akin to rejecting humanity in general for me. A general submission to apathy. Like Gendo.
>>273340014One piece is superficial garbage. Terrible bait.I was like 8/9 when I first saw One Piece too and I thought it was boring superficial garbage made for toddlers. Yet at the same age I understood eva correctly.
>>273340229I have refused to watch the rebuilds solely because the presence of that extra girl, whatever her name is, puts me off entirely. I just don't see any room for her in the series or what it is trying to say.
>>273340229>So now eva is just a Gundam ripoff with aliens now, instead of a look at the human condition (which ironically Turn A does better than the rebuilds).brother...
>>273340039Based on the fact that she held a gun to him because she was clearly betrayed and didn't see it coming. She didn't see the warning that was her own mother's death and her issues with Gendo.
>>273340229Fully agree>>273340274I was not baiting. If people can't understand a brainrot show as One Piece they can't understand Asuka is not a Tsundere.
>>273328558unironically this. i need a push and pull relationship, i can't take genuine affection seriously. it's just a trick in my mind
Tsundere is only as good as the man that can tease the dere out.
>>273340373how do you deal with emotional whiplashsome bitch mocking me then trying to get all affectionate makes me deeply suspicious
>>273340290Loran is like Shinji only he actually is the only one with his shit together and the madness is around him and he has to be the adult in the room. He's as good as Shinji for completely the opposite reasons. It's almost the inverse of Eva and there are no aliens, just humanity in space invading archaic humanity on earth.And it's just as good as eva for me too. It's more critical of humanity creating it's own flaws merely out of superficial naivety and blissful ignorance and how that systematically manifests. It's not about the trauma of these children in the context of an alien invasion/apocalypse. It's more a objective critique of humanity and society and not personal flaws.
>>273340421i'm fairly good at talking to girls so i understand when they're flirting, even if it's an insult. the important thing, at least for me, is to take it on the chin and dish it back out to her. it keeps the banter up and keeps her wanting your attention by doing tsundere things. just keep in mind to never be mean with your insults. keep your energy to 50% or less of hers, cuz girls are sensitive and will get pissed if you say something to the tune of what they say about you
>>2733404752D girls don't count, anon!
>>273340446>It's almost the inverse of Eva and there are no aliensits pretty much the inverse of Eva. i love it for lots of reasons, from what if eel is better art than eva, to the phenomenal soundtrack. the story is pulpy but fun. wouldn't surprise me at all if the plot is from a 70s-80s sci-fi periodical or novel.
>>273340584i wish they did though
>>273340421I get that every day, just from my dog.Let alone from more complexly behaved things like people. When I don't get that, I consider those people "trapped in their own quagmire" and I try to agitate them or seduce them out of their prison. Problem is, this pisses them off. I'm sorry, I just have to or you won't even talk at all. You won't express at all. I need to know your problems for otherwise you might as well not be human. I might as well be talking to a doll like teh Rei. My problem is more that people know I'm thinking of their thoughts many steps ahead, but I can't help myself and reveal signs that I know things from inferences they're too autistic to see. Most of humanity nowadays are like this thanks to our fucked up society - you read history books and we used to talk different and engage totally different. Nowadays we don't move past really boring shit because it's uncomfortable to most people to do that - talking about things might break the "dream" people see instead of their reality. All I do is ask a question on something every now and then, not even a really investigative, intrusive one, just enough to get them to think and talk about something. The immediate response is always a look of horror and suspicion at me.I could try to overcompensate my own way and pretend to talk about really boring superficial shit, but it bores me to tears and I start day dreaming.I just like seeing people think outside of their comfort zone. That makes them look alive and I start to feel alive.
>>273340585The art is good, but I will admit I missed the cool evas of eva a bit.Luckily, Tomino's genius comes through the character interactions and the commentary (in his ancient wisdom) on our society. He kinda did another similar take on a shinji character before shinji existed with Kamille, but he's different again because they actually do add some spiritual shit and he's even more retarded than shinji, without shinji's situation and with more a fervour for vengeance.What eva did was remove the vengeance and make it more introspective about Shinji and the more personal interactions between people. So Zeta, Turn A and Eva are the big 3 for me. 3 different spins on this similar story structure with mechas. All more about the people than the robots. Very strange ay. I just didn't expect it with Gundam because I thought it would be like typical mecha and not like eva with it's humanistic side of things. The mechas merely become a mcguffin for these dynamics.
>>273312203Based Shinji preparing Asuka for her night with Kensuke
>>273340791>KensukeWait a minute...that's Laios's sword.Why is she dating a sword?
>>273337632>rebuilds aren't canonThey literally unironically are. Anno told Evafags to touch grass and they got mad lol.
>>273312904>(I didn't tell him I asked her to show me her asshole)
>>273337632They are canon.
I don't like female tsundere. I just find them annoying and retarded.Stuff like overbearing girl x male tsundere on the other hand...
>>273340791Truth
>>273337632It's a sequel which erases the slop that was the original Eva series and EoE. Denying it's canonicity goes against the themes of Evangelion and that is to move forward and improve yourself and actually make connections with people.As expected with the master, Anno, he paired up Shinji with Mari, his ideal partner after growing up as a character after rejecting Asuka, whom he knew needed Kensuke more. Moreover, it's why Rei ended up with Kaworu in the new world. It's just that simple bro. Why deny it? Is it because you self-insert as Shinji and want him to fuck Asuka instead and watching the original was just you simply drowning in your own delusions?
>>273342525Bait used to mean something.
>>273342635Nope, now it's just spamming rebuilds are canon and the /dbs/spic who is currently banned >>273340791 >>273342475 replying based and truth to his own post.FYI, he was ban for doing that samething yesterday
>>273342696https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/273306018/#273314279 he is banned Kek
>>273340229huh
>>273342525Was this you >>273341118 >>273341865 >>273341118The retard who started posting seethe the moment I asked about the schizo spammer or are you >>273342475>>273340791 the /dbs/spic who keeps replying to himself?
>>273342696>everyone is one person
>>273342920The fact you had to greentext and react instantly proves you are the same person. Either your the faggot typing uo schizo delusions or the /dbs/spic who keeps samefagging
>>273342803>>273314098I like how we have proof of jannies IP wiping the schizos yest he really thinks saying this shit >>273342920 is a gotcha
>>273312409Samefagging retard who hangs out in /dbs/. This is his tumblr >>273317531 and he may be a janny for /a/
I love how mentally ill Eva threads are
