>>273352649
Everyone here outside of Heissner is a hack, and even then I don't think he was fit for the project

>>273352649
Why is it so hard? What makes them give up?

>>273352649
I feel like the only way to get it done would be to pick both of the leads first, choosing a pair of genius goofballs with chemistry who can act both sides of each role, and then writing the script around them to eventually end up with the disjointed time disaster plot. It seems like it'd be easy to do a direct adaption but then it's just sort of a bleh version of itself.

>>273353135
Direct adaptation is the only way, maybe add extra scenes of the characters dealing with life to make it feel that the adaptation actually added something

That's the best way of doing this kind of stuff

Maybe just don't adapt it?

>>273353196
Direct adaptions are garbage that end up being boring versions of the original that can't reach the appeal of the original medium or the new one. The best way of doing it is to establish a novel, distinct artistic vision that plays to the strengths of the new medium and eschewing any sense of loyalty to the original except as a source of inspiration. The Kenshin live action stuff is a good example, or the film adaptation of Tezuka's Metropolis (for that matter Akira itself is a great example of change in adaptation).

>>273352883
Too intimidating working on the greatest love story ever told.

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>>273352649
>My girl Mitsuha stays safe from western LA slop
Based

>>273352883
Bad source material.

>>273352649
Hollywood jumped at the idea of adapting Your Name without thinking because they saw it was making money and they wanted a cut. But there are two frankly insurmountable problems to trying to do a Hollywood adaptation of it:

1: It is an animated movie that is known for its frankly stellar production value. It is extremely pretty and the musical montages lend it high energy. All of this is lost in a live action adaptation, because you cannot reproduce what made the animation good in live action and you know for a fact that they would never re-use the Radwimps OST because Hollywood always thinks it knows better than the source material. This made the adaptation always dead on arrival, but the real thing that I am sure is killing the project is:

2: The original story is very Japanese. Japanese in a way that cannot be ignored. It is not just that the story stars Japanese characters and is set in Japan, the story and the themes of the work are deeply rooted in Japan's relationship with natural disasters, which is something that America simply doesn't have an equivalent of. Worse still, major underpinnings of the plot hinge on a dream logic that entirely revolves around the ambiguous nature of a specific japanese word and mystical local religion... which, again, *doesn't work* in English or in America. You can't just transplant that shit into New York City or whatever and have any of it make sense, attempting to whitewash this for American audiences knocks down so many loadbearing pillars that the story collapses. I think the JJ Abrams version was going to try to make it about native american mysticism instead, but anyone with a brain took one look at that idea and could tell that was a bomb because it introduces a shitton of new and distracting elements into the story that shift focus away from what the movie is supposed to be about, and you'd get rightly ripped apart for just making shit up and trying to pass it off as native american religion.

What's the point in making a live action version? Make something original instead.

>>273353477
this, probably told "them" to fuck off with their bullshit

>>273353556
>Make something original instead.
This would require creativity and talent, and Hollywood is currently lacking in that department.

>>273353615
It's actually sadder than that. Money counters advising studio heads have run the numbers and concluded that selling movies associated with established IP is generally cheaper for the studio than making something new, because you can afford to rely on the brand name to generate discussion and spend less on marketing to advertise to audiences.

That's it. That is really the primary fucking reason why everything its a reboot or a remake. It is disgusting in how shallow it is, they would rather save a few million dollars of budget to pocket the difference than make something new.

>>273353699
Maybe creatives should do more to earn the amounts of money they're asking for to make their products. Since they're on the lower end of the skill hierarchy

>>273353553
>stellar production value
Your Name was quite literally low-budget. 5 million dollars production budget. The only reason it looks so good is because of Shinkai and CoMix Wave's art/background team, which is the best in the industry by far.

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IT'S TIME. GIVE IT TO HIM

>>273353759
Movies cannot exist without creatives. You cannot make a movie without a script, without a director, without actors, without editors and post-production.
You can absolutely make a movie without executives. You need to find an alternate source of funding, but movies existed before movie studios and movies get made every year without their involvement. The studios are the part of this equation that is disposable, and they live in eternal fear of that fact.

>>273353824
Production value does not equal budget

>>273354583
Nolan might be the absolute worst choice for a movie like Kimi no na Wa. I like most of his films, but his work is extremely emotionally sterile. KnnW is a movie that lives and dies on its bombastic emotional themes and moments, which is something that Nolan has never once delivered on. This is not a dark, grim, serious movie and trying to make it one would be nothing less than an act of sabotage.

>>273353824
Pretend I said production quality instead of production value, then, and we can avoid getting hung up on semantics.

At this point they should cancel it
It's too late to do the money that they wanted
It's not 2016 in the middle of the your name craze

>>273352649
>>Eric Heisserer (Arrival, The Thing)
If he gave up I don't think anyone can.

>>273354798
True.
They absolutely missed their chance since announcing the LA.

>>273354840
Hell i would even say shinkaistuff in general is less popular now
Since suzume which did less of a success than tenki no ko and of course kimi no na wa

>>273354798
Agreed. It was a bad idea from the start, and at this point it would only be a worse idea to try and see it to completion. Better to cut your loses now than to throw good money after bad to make a product that is absolutely going to bomb.
No one wants to watch a LA version of Your Name about 30 year olds pretending to be college kids where a guy from new york and a girl from Nevada both download the same magical phone app and start switching bodies or whatever totally off-base nonsense they use since they can't play into the shinto imagery and themes of the original. Imagine how hair-pullingly frustrating it would be when they inevitably dropped the time difference part of the plot because 'test audiences found it confusing'.

>>273354694
Everyone is okay with it being very different from the original. Shinkai himself said it, he doesn't want the adaptation to be 1:1. I'd be totally okay with Nolan's take on it. It's already the kind of story that he loves (plays with time, spirituality, all that). Definitely not opposed.

>>273354798
I’ll never y swear and the hype for it either way. Sure it’s pretty and fine to watch, but it’s a pretty by the numbers boy meets girl story with digestable supernatural element

>>273354919
Suzume is simply not as good a film as Your Name. Its not bad, part of it are fantastic, but its really weirdly paced and it doesn't explain itself very well and it doesn't really come together until the very end.

Tenki No Ko is just Your Name but worse, its not as polished a script as Your Name was and a s a result certain big moment come off as unnatural and forced. But it did gangbusters because it was still riding high off of the fame of Your Name, which did not carry over as strong into Suzume.

>>273354919
Suzume did well enough. It just had impossibly high shoes to fill when compared to the others, which is too much pressure for any director.

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>>273354919
>suzume
>less of a success than tenki no lo and of course kimi no na wa
Nigger what? Suzume sold more tickets than Your Name worldwide. And made ~150M more dollars than Tenki no Ko.

>>273355100
>and it doesn't really come together until the very end.
That's expected from Eastern storytelling in general. Stories aren't necessarily about conflicts, it's about changing perspectives at some point and connecting the two parts of the story together at the end. It's still a fantastic movie and >>273355241

>Verification not required.

>live action tries to emulate animation
>fails miserably
Surprise, surprise.

>>273354919
Suzume was absolutely more successful than Tenki no Ko.

funny how they're still trying to make it a thing like anyone gives a shit about Your Name anymore

>>273353553
>natural disasters that America doesn't have an equivalent of
Damn, I can't believe I almost fell for this bait

>>273353759
Thank you for your insight, rabbi

>>273352649
Your Name was a mid story made great because of Shinkai. There's zero reason to adapt it to live action in the first place.

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>>273355279
Here's your verification lil bro. Tickets sold, more than Kimi no Na wa and Spirited Away. Box office (Suzume's numbers are not updated btw), still around 150M more than Tenki no Ko.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Japanese_films

>>273355599
wow, a non-ironic newfag

>>273355400
Yeah, it sound retarded when you cut off half it. If you move your eyes *slightly* to the left, you'll see that it says

> Japan's relationship with natural disasters, which is something that America simply doesn't have an equivalent of

There are parts of America that get hurricanes. There are parts of america that get wildfires. There are parts of america that get floods. But huge, absolutely massive chunks of America are at basically no risk of major natural disasters at all. I've lived in 3 states and they're never been a concern for me or where I have lived.
Japan is an island built on top of fault lines. Huge storms, earthquakes, and tsunamis are something that affects their entire country, happen regularly, and when they happen hit basically everyone in Japan to some degree or another. You can absolutely live in America your whole life and never lose someone you love to a natural disaster, its just something that exists for you on the news and it only affects you as much as starving kids in Africa or the war. If you live in Japan, you've lost friends or family to natural disasters or know someone who has, and there is a very real knowledge that this can happen to you at basically any time, often with no warning.
That simply is not true for most of America.

>>273355651
>If you live in Japan, you've lost friends or family to natural disasters or know someone who has, and there is a very real knowledge that this can happen to you at basically any time, often with no warning.
This isn't true. The only natural disaster doing that was the 2011 tsunami, nobody is dying from the monthly minor earthquakes in one of the most natural disaster proof countries in the world.

>>273354919
How can u just lie with a straight face like that? lol if Suzume was released in the Your Name 2016 economy, it'd have made almost half a billion dollars

>>273355920
Anon. People live longer than 15 years.
>or know someone who has
Is very much true even in the current generation.

>>273352649
>>273352856
>>273354837
Arrival is great but it was injected with Hollywood writing. The original short story by Ted Chiang it's based on is better.

>>273354694
I thought interstellar was pretty emotional :)
though I'll admit it was the soundtrack that carried that aspect of the film

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>>273355392
As if.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856955855658270733

>>273356343
Interstellar is quite literally a Shinkai film in live action form

>>273352649
>Eric Heisserer
>The Thing
Its a shame that one producer fuck up the whole movie by switching the special effects from practical to 3d effects.

>>273353553
>The original story is very Japanese. Japanese in a way that cannot be ignored. It is not just that the story stars Japanese characters and is set in Japan, the story and the themes of the work are deeply rooted in Japan's relationship with natural disasters, which is something that America simply doesn't have an equivalent of. Worse still, major underpinnings of the plot hinge on a dream logic that entirely revolves around the ambiguous nature of a specific japanese word and mystical local religion... which, again, *doesn't work* in English or in America. You can't just transplant that shit into New York City or whatever and have any of it make sense, attempting to whitewash this for American audiences knocks down so many loadbearing pillars that the story collapses.
Actually it can totally work in an American setting. The saga of the UFO flap of 1967, the Mothman sightings in the Ohio River Valley, and the collapse of the Silver Bridge. In fact the local newspaper woman in Point Pleasant who collaborated with John Keel on investigations in the area was one of several people to report prophetic dreams of the disaster. In her case, she saw the image of scattered presents in a river, foreshadowing the motorists sent plunging into the freezing waters a little more than a week before christmas. Other potential comparisons of American spiritual involvement in disaster narratives are the stories of miracles and images of angels that circulate surrounding major tornado events. There's all kinds of ways you could rework the same essential concept for an American context. Christian country girl gets swapped with pop culture suffused city boy. Have their be both the Christian and "paranormal" explanations for the significance and meaning of a giga-tornado that wiped out a town after some weird alien/miraculous stuff happened. Kids go through the swap slice of life/relationship build up in a mini X-files investigation. Twist time travel, boy prays.

>>273352649
is it really so hard to adapt?

>>273352649
>Is Your Name quite literally impossible to adapt into live action?
It is impossible to do outside of Japan, because narratively it is extremely specific and the ideas do not really map onto a western cultural framework. This is due to the way life in a rural town in Japan is distinct from life in a western rural town and due to the unique properties of Tokyo as a city.

>>273358026
Equaling mysticism to sci-fi is already a no-go. As for the other, part of what made the climax of the movie was that deity at the mountain took their memories of each other as compensation for re-establishing the link when Taki left nothing behind for the offering he took from the shrine. It was a miracle, but a miracle that had a cost, and this doesn't really sits well with Christianity.

>>273352649
>Anime that would be seen as throwaway and generic in live action gets throwaway and generic live action movie
Fitting but people still won't realize how the writing was always lame just you liked that it was anime.

>>273352649
>Your Name quite literally impossible to adapt into live action?
https://letterboxd.com/shawn_stubbs/list/body-swap/
Retard.

>>273358407
>Fitting but people still won't realize how the writing was always lame just you liked that it was anime.
Is that supposed to be a criticism of it
Nobody has said that the visuals were not the best part of it.
The writing is fine for what is is,but i agree it's not the best.
But nobody is disputing that.

Western versions of Japanese things always suck, so who cares

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>>273352649
>mfw

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>>273358514
>Western versions of Japanese things always suck
lol no

>>273358505
Anime should be more than visuals, hell I say visuals feel soulless cause so overly bright and pretty feels like made in AI, it lacks roughness and human touch, feels artificial.

>>273358327
I don't care about the oversight restrictions, but in terms of artistic theory you can totally convert Your Name, themes and messages intact, to an American context. American Christian fundamentalists have no problem with a miracle that has a cost. They're so impoverished they can't imagine anything that doesn't have a cost. Equaling mysticism and sci-fi MUST happen for it to be genuine, because that's how it has happened in the population itself. For every Native American account of a Bigfoot as just another tribe here on the land since creation, there's someone reporting that Bigfoot is an alien slave brought here as a scout/infiltrator. There are reports in the literature of UFOs piloted by Jesus, or various angels. Near death experiences to heaven and hell...as well as to the otherworlds of foreign religions, or encounters with soul-snatching grey aliens. And then there's the aspect of military and civilian radar tracking of anomalous phenomena, science grasping at the mystic, that is cemented in the DNA of Americana.

The anthropological truth is that Americans have the same spiritualist, superstitious character as the Japanese, as all peoples. No system of power has ever been able to eradicate the animistic understanding of reality because everyone experiences it, so all culture at the grass roots hinges on the same conceptual understanding of mystic intuition as mediated by emotional fixation. Even christians do it, that's why they still have their miracles and demons.

>>273358712
Why are equating cryptids to natural disasters? You are so retarded

>>273358460
Where's Your Name live action? Not seeing it on the list.

>>273358776
Not them, but youkai are literally equivalent to spirit cryptids. As with cryptids, behind every American natural disaster is a whodunnit - was it God? Was it nature? Demiurge? The devil? Are we the cause through global warming or climate change? Was it fate? Just "bad luck"? Was it for revenge, for enlightenment, a test? These are the exact same questions every culture asks when faced with disasters.

>>273359036
youkai are not really like cryptids

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>>273358026
>>273358712
Not him but...
Wow, it's actually impressive to miss the point this fucking hard and also butcher the beliefs a few other dozen cultures while you're at it. Well done.
In the particular case of Kimi no na Wa, its story is so intrinsically linked to Japanese spirituallity and culture, it's almost impossible to tell the story without it, and no, replacing it with some other North American culture and misrepresenting that doesn't make it better.

Also Native Americans never fucking talked about bigfoot in their mythology, that's something fraud "researchers" claim to give themselves credibility, but I digress

>>273352883
They're only getting frauds working on it

>>273353553
it's the breast groping isn't?

>>273358712
>American Christian fundamentalists have no problem with a miracle that has a cost
Then they are not real Christians and there a lack of understanding of the teachings on your part?
Did Christ ask for payment as he healed the sick? Of course not.
Did God ask for payment when He personally butchered the firstborn children of Egypt? Of course not.

A miracle comes without cost. It is a miracle, not a business transaction.

>>273358776
Because the way that the narratives of the UFO flap and mothman sightings preceding the Silver Bridge collapse are implicated in being portents of doom is an example of American animism.

>>273359067
I suggest you go pirate a copy of "The Rebirth of Pan" if you think Bigfoot isn't the same as a youkai
Every culture is talking about the same metaphysical reality, even modern cultures trying to squint through the scratched lenses of materialism.

>>273359036
>>273359067
For the record "cryptid" does not mean "spooky monster". It was originally suppossed to mean "undiscovered animal", steming from cryptozoology. Which frankly has gotten wattered down over the years by treating sightings of fucking forest demons and future telling bug monsters as credible as really big monkey or shark. But frankly that's another can of worms entirely, and it wouldn't be wrong to group and treat as a kind of folklore but I digress

>>273359216
>Every culture is talking about the same metaphysical reality
oh it's this nonsense you get your ideas from
Then I suggest you pick up a copy of simulacra and simulation, read it and then apply its teachings to what you think to know about bigfoot and other americana.

>>273356745
>le funny reddit man social media user
Is that supposed to prove something?

>>273359446
>reddit man
He's quite literally the most hated person on reddit. Even more than Trump these days. And yes, it does prove actually, he's the richest and most influential person on Earth.

>>273359512
>he's the richest
with most of his wealth tied up in assets which readily depreciate in value

>most influential person on Earth
Far from it, especially if he makes a major misstep, which given how much of an autistic retard he is, he inevitably will sooner rather than later.

>>273359171
>Then they are not real Christians
Well yeah, christianity is bullshit so there are no real christians. The closest to match Jesus and the early christians today are the human sex traffickers at the core of every church and dumbass fundamentalists trying to overthrow societies to make that criminal element rulers. The entire notion of a fluffy and good christianity is a fairy tale invented to establish an orthodoxy that buried the past. If you aren't lifting up snakes at dawn and drinking venom-wine, you aren't the real deal. There are leaks of the actual history in passages like Mark 16:17-18.

>>273353553
>Americans don't have natural disasters
is this europoor education?

>>273359782
fascinating notions, protestant friend
but I am critiquing protestantism here

>>273359216
Shut the fuck up retard

>>273359788
Americans have no culture related to natural disasters beyond pretending they're not real until they inevitably happen again.

>>273359512
>He's quite literally the most hated person on reddit
doesn't change the fact that he's pure reddit

>>273359788
tornados are weak compaed to earthquakes/tsunamis

Did the two of them masturbate in the other's body?

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>>273359836
https://fox8.com/news/family-photo-shows-angel-of-boy-killed-by-tornado/
Americans have distinct cultural practices related to natural disasters

>>273359954
that are completely distinct from the Japanese ideas.
Like I said, pretending it's not real until it happens yet again. Like it does every year.

>>273359700
>Far from it
He literally just installed Trump into office.

>>273352649
I hate live action anime adaptations. Nothing but slop made for normalfaggots that think they're too good to watch cartoons. If they want to experience the story than watch the fucking anime.

>>273359887
They did, Shinkai confirmed it. They just couldn't show it in the film for obvious reasons.

>>273360043
And Trump can depose him any time. And so can the Senate and Congress. So can the DoJ and the Pentagon. Elon is a useful idiot giving out Kompromat like business cards.
This is why he is favored, because he can be taken off the board whenever he stops being convenient.

>>273360117
Trump will do whatever the jews tell him to do. It's not that complicated.

>>273360173
You are mistaken in one crucial matter.
Trump won't do anything, he doesn't care.
Trump wants to BE president, not do the work of a president.

>>273359836
We do, but it's this.

https://youtu.be/JWORdrLaTSg?si=sKL63Z0nq7NdnSH5

>>273354583
>Your name?
>"It doesn't matter what our name is, what matters is our plan."
Kino

>>273353401
Daphnis and Chloe?

>>273352649
Too bad Shinkai doesn't have the time to make it

Animation as a medium has certain advantages to it that live action does not, and many features of it do not translate well between mediums. I don't know why every studio on the planet is obsessed with doing this shit, it never works out well.

>>273353243
it's literally money on the table!
that is...if they can craft the tube which can funnel the money it into their pockets, which they can't for some reason

>>273352649
suzume would be a better fit for live action

>>273359788
More like the disaster are linked to local religion and kami. I don't think american heretic do offering to the saints for help against disasters.

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>>273358597
Only Italians and the French can make a japanese slop adaptation better than the source material

>>273361313
Ew no Suzume is the worst because it has the most effects. Your Name is perfect because most of it is just a grounded drama in normal settings.

>>273355279
The Lost Decade nostalgia farming films, the teenager movies, aren't traditionally Eastern in any way shape or form.
The guy you're looking for is Hosoda, who is the guy that does 4 act storytelling to a fault.

>>273361606
>That fucking crow bird in the background

They just roll with the insanity of it and didn't even shy away from it. That what make it great. It is a love letter to city hunter.

>>273361628
Suzume's entire structure feels more like a Hollywood production than anything. Your Name and Weathering With You have a lot of downtime and multiple montages.

>>273352883
I think what it boils down to is largely that the way Your Name paces itself is anathema to western screenwriting, but that pacing is largely there out of necessity. People have pointed out there's insanely large plot holes/leaps of logic within the story (how did neither of them notice they were time shifting when they were constantly staring at one another's phones/calendar apps? Why did they never even try to call one another until they stopped swapping when it would have been the most obvious way to communicate with one another vs cryptic notes and body writing?) but they're things you can only think through and process after the movie is over, because the whole sequence of them swapping happens at a lightning pace with a lot of it set to a high energy music video. The movie only slows down once the swapping is largely over and Taki needs to go unravel the mystery of why.
You could just adapt this pacing straight to a live action, but American screenwriters aren't used to writing that way because it doesn't fall within the traditional structure of gradual rising action. They'd want to slow down and expand on the swapping, but doing so calls attention to the fact that it's ridiculous neither Taki or Mitsuha ever put the blatantly obvious pieces together about their situation. In effect, the way these people normally adapt causes the believably of the story to fall apart without massive re-writes that effectively make it a whole new IP inspired by Your Name, rather than an adaptation.
The irony is that I imagine the nips could pretty easily put together a live action adaptation if they wanted to because they're not iron-bound to the same screenwriting conventions as Hollywood is. Same for your more arthousey European studios.

>>273355084
My friend had a peculiar taste for media and somehow this generic boy meets girl shit is the only one he forced me to sit through the entire thing, and it was on camrip too because it was still very early on.
To this day I still don't get why he's so hyped over it.

>>273362991
Because they cannot. It's stated in the movie, the body swap feels like a dream, the recent ones are still a bit more vivid in their memories but the longer it goes the hazier the details become. Remembering dates, the exact places they saw, or details about people they met are the first things to fade. It wasn't supposed to be something rational.

>>273354583
He already did. It's called Interstellar and it was bad.

>>273362991
Bollywood could do it.

>>273353553
Just make it that Japan conquered USA duing WW2.

Oh yeah, then there's this movie called "The Lake House" which starred Keanu Rreeves.

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>>273361313
I second that. I'd pay to see this scene in live action

>>273354694
His work feels like that because everybody copied him, anon.

>>273364383
No it doesn't. Copying has nothing to do with it. I'm not saying that I find his work *generic*.
I'm saying that Nolan has never made a movie with an effective romantic subplot in it even once. It isn't something he is interested in or does well. Whereas Your Name without any romantic elements to it is a dead movie.

>>273364565
Oh that's what you meant. My bad. That makes sense.

>>273353553
>Japan's relationship with natural disasters, which is something that America simply doesn't have an equivalent of.
There's tornadoes in the flyover states, or the entirety of florida. California is a permanently mild and sunny state so they have no concept of natural disaster, other than their own self inflicted water shortages.

>>273356341
I hated arrival and have never understood its positive reception. I regret watching it and I feel its largely responsible for my hesitation in watching new science fiction films. Every choice the movie makes is narratively disappointing. Every character feels cliche and trite. With some being so on the nose of their archetype that I thought I was on drugs because it was just so terrible. Sitting down to watch that movie was the equivalent of having someone pour you a glass of milk and when you go to drink it you're smacked in the face with a piece of cheese and spoiled dairy. And every time the film is mentioned it brings back the reflex to vomit.

>>273364820
Read "Story of your Life" by Ted Chiang.

>>273364887
I'll give it a read.

>>273352649
Weren't they doing a version in Chicago between a black city boy and blonde white country girl?

>>273365136
No, I'm pretty sure it was between a jewish boy and a palestinian girl

>>273365136
I think 4chan made that up. I've never seen any mention of that anywhere but here.

>>273365136
How many /pol/tards do you think would hatewatch that one?

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>5 Centimeters per Second live action is now in production and it's actually high-budget
I'm just gonna wait for the superior adaptation.

>>273365636
Like zero? They don't watch movies

Nothing can be adapted to LA.

>>273353553
the movie is reddit
stop making it out to be anything other than slop

>>273365786
Nothing you posted has anything remotely resembling quality. It's generic. It's forced beauty

>>273365786
>>273365912
forced classic

>>273364814
Doesn't California have frequent wildfires?

>>273366222
wildfires aren't an instant disaster that wipes towns off the map. If you want to survive a wildfire, then just like start walking. wildfires aren't even real lmao just walk away.

>>273366222
Flash floods/mudslides, earthquakes
There's all sorts of disasters to choose from in the US

>>273364814
We have earthquakes and mudslides and mass immigration.

>>273366384
Including immigration and jewish power

>>273353553
Based anon making americans cope and seethe

>>273364814
>California is a permanently mild and sunny state so they have no concept of natural disaster

We literally have "fire seasons."

>>273365812
Then why did they have several threads. with hundreds of posts each about the new Captain America movie? Who would go on the internet and talk about a movie they're not going to see?

>>273366431
200% skill issue, manage your forests better.

>>273362991
>how did neither of them notice they were time shifting when they were constantly staring
Godly shenanigans, I thought it was explained quite clearly with gradual amnesia and phone notes vanishing one after another.

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Hollywood just can't possibly adapt an anti-woke work like Your Name, it can't be done

>>273358514
Edge of Tomorrow 2 is coming out next year
Tom Cruise Yukikaze adaptation when?

>>273366435
buddy we're on the internet, especially 4chan
do you know how easy virtue signallers fold when you confront them and ask them to elaborate on their arguments?

>>273365786
>You want a 5 Centimeters per Second live action?

>>273367054
We could get Mitsuha's testicles bouncing instead, think about the possibilities.

>>273353553
>all these retards in the replies misssing the point
lmao

>>273353553
Amerisissies... I don't feel so good

>>273353615
Don't act like that it's exclusive to Hollywood, the same thing is happening with anime too. I can only recall 2 (TWO) good original anime in the past 2 or 3 years: Odd Taxi and Sonny Boy.

>>273366384
No one care about your puny flash floods and mudslides

>>273365786
Shinkai's cinematography is still unmatched

>>273356341
Can't deny that, it could have been way better but what we got was exceptionally well filmed and paced
If I want a good film adaptation I know he can deliver even in spite of a bad or tampered script

As I said, he was the best bet and even then I don't believe he could have pulled it off well enough, just better than the rest in that list

>>273352649
If next Shinkai film becomes a bigger success than Your Name I can see it getting a Hollywood live action before the Your Name one is even finished

>>273372397
If I met Makoto Shinkai on a street corner in Burbank I would congratulate him on his posthumous Emmy and then stab him while he was still trying to figure out what I meant.

>>273372478
Aww yuritranny sad because Shinkai so successful :'(

>>273352649
It only works if the male MC is a black man from America.

>>273372922
No that's just how we greet people around here

>>273361606
she looks like the mom from malcolm in the middle

>>273365786
india could make 5cm/s movie work since they fucking love the slo-mo

>>273352883
When most of the appeal comes from looking at pretty drawings it's really hard to compensate in live action since It ends up looking like a documentary

>>273355100
Suzume Is better than Your Name, do much it's not even funny

>>273359114
They did have "forest men" myths like every fucking culture with a forest nearby

>>273365786
Forced animation and forced soul

>>273361413
Death Man Walking tornados?

>>273374271
You'll graduate middle school someday and look back at your posts with embarrassment.

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>>273361313
My man.

>>273352649
>JJ Abrams (Star Wars, Star Trek)
PFFFTHAHAHA

>>273356745
So this confirms it's normie trash? Same batch of retards who only watch Ghibli films

>>273376223
JJ Abrams was working on the script back in 2017. That's where all the talk about "native american girl" and city boy came from. Eric Heisserer scrapped everything after that. No one has any idea what the current iteration even looks like.

>>273376259
If it's getting a Hollywood version, it is normie. Are you retarded? It's getting adapted because it's the biggest original anime film of all time.

>>273359512
>Literally the most hated person on leddit
>Trump's right hand man
Anon, where do you think all of the election tourists came from?

>>273359879
Earthquakes/tsunamis are weak compared to hurricanes

>>273360043
You are overstating the role he played in getting Trump a win.

>>273352649
Not with emotionally stunted directors like that.

I'd be surprised if JJ Abrams can feel anything in his rotten dogshit heart.

>>273376402
Shareblue.

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>>273355100
Suzume is a movie you can't understand mostly because you're not someone who lived or lives in Japan.

It's basically a Japan tour movie and fear porn. Much like how a lot of American movies that feature US travel fall flat in Europe or how Tornado movies in Europe are really seen as a joke. There simply no emotional or cultural connection to the places, events and happenings to you. Because you didn't grow up in that environment.

>You don't fear earthquakes
>This isn't part of your daily life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTyvBA02nYk
>You don't know jacks shit about Kyushu and closed bubble era resorts
>How far Ehime is my ferry means nothing to you
>More and more abandoned schools even in metropolitan areas means nothing to you
>The Great Kanto earthquake is something you didn't hear about or have very little reference to it was worse then the atomic bombings
>The significance of where Tokyo gate is located and the relationship to mythology means nothing to you
>And finally the 2011 Eathquake and the area around are also nothing special to you

This is why Suzume falls flat in most regions around the world but not in the Philippines. It's a movie about a very specific cultural fear that very few people around the world have.
You can obviously empathize, learn about this, even live in Japan like I have but this will never be really a fear for you because real fears and issues develop in childhood.
I'm from Europe and I lived in Tokyo for 2 years. I've felt earthquakes, I've seen collapsed castles and buildings in Kyushu, heard stories from the local about everything. Yet still I can't really resonate with it.
I'm from Croatia. My house was bombed by artillery shells, we had sirens every day and we'd rush to the basement to try get cover. I had artillery shells land in my backyard. I hear tanks moving around and so on... these are real traumatic fears that strike at the core of me. This is how a lot of Japanese people feel about earthquakes.

>>273376506
I dunno, he controls the most used social media platform in the world, and the ability for social media to manipulate public opinion is tremendous. A lie repeated 1000 times is indistinguishable from a fact, and twitter can repeat it a million times with the press of a button.
Also, he was literally bribing people to vote republican. Or has the "One random republican voter gets 1 million dollars a day" already fallen out of memory?

>>273361606
I wouldn't say better but they make them watchable and fun.

>>273376530
I think JJ Abrams is capable of feeling love. For money.

>>273376795
I'm fully aware of the themes of Suzume and the fears and cultural sense of loss that it speaks to. Those things it does very well, and I am capable of recognizing that as true even though I am outside of its target demographic.
I just think that, structurally, its a worse film. Your Name does a lot of clever and finely crafted manipulation of information and how it is conveyed to the viewer such that all of the pieces to recognize the twist are there for anyone to see, but its thrown at you in such a rapid fire pace to keep you distracted enough that on a first viewing its unthinkable that you would see it coming unless someone has told you in advance. But, when you know what to look for, its all there. Your Name is a movie best enjoyed blind on the first watch, knowing nothing about it, and then is just as rewarding on repeating viewings because you will probably be spotting new details on your third and even fourth watch. The logic of the movie is fantastical and dreamlike, but detailed and extremely internally consistent.
Suzume doesn't have that rewatch value in the same way. Which is fine, not every movie has to do that. Your Name is built around a central twist that requires setup, and Suzume really isn't. But even allowing for the fact that Suzume is a very different film, its pacing and story structure just feels off. It feels aimless for about half the movie, where you are trusting that it is going somewhere but you have not a clue where, and a number of subplots either feel like they go nowhere or get hamfisted resolutions. Like, we introduce our second god by them possessing the aunt and seemingly force her to air her hidden resentments to Suzume... for basically no reason? This is the emotional climax of their relationship where everything is brought to a head, but its extremely arbitrary and there's never so much as a hint as to why the god decided to do this.
The ending is fantastic, but the road to get there in Suzume feels unpolished.

>>273376983
Well, he is jewish.

>>273377304
The love of money crosses boundaries of race, ethnicity, sex and denomination.

>>273377685
No you understand capitalism is only good when I do it, otherwise its a conspiracy to destroy me.

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>>273352649
Why won't they just cancel it? There's no way any money is going towards it at this point

>>273377073
>Like, we introduce our second god by them possessing the aunt and seemingly force her to air her hidden resentments to Suzume... for basically no reason?

See that the cultural thing I was talking about that you can't resonate with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne_and_tatemae

Her aunts relationship with Suzume was tatemae. Meaning the never really struck a real connection.

You surely heard of Nomikai in Japan right, where you get drunk with your boss and tell him your true feelings? This is what the gods did. In Japanese culture this is supposed to be a bonding situation where you let out your true feelings, you are forgiven for it and your relationship advances forward knowing that what has been said exists as a grievance. It doesn't necessarily mean it's all going to be okay but it's finally in the open.

While this isn't obviously a Japan only thing. It's highly practiced and is part of Japanese culture much more then in the Western countries where these things are a lot more talked about.

But I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. I read the LN they released. Both Daijin and Sadaijin where humans like Souta tasked with sealing and became keystones in an event in the past. The whole "point" of Daijin is to show Suzume how Tamaki feels how she lost so much because of her. In the novel it's said she always fake laughs and tries her best to be a model mother but there no "parental love" between them. She makes her cute Character Bentous even when shes a high school girl. Meaning she imitating being a mother not actually being one.

>>273365786
man, that new shinkai sci-fi is gonna look incredible cant wait to see it

>>273378228
All of that is patently obvious from watching the film, the part that muddles this is the involvement of the God. Its how the god is introduced to us, and aside from fighting in the final battle it is basically the only thing that the god does in the film. Which leaves its motivations totally obscured and comes off as a dues ex machina to force the confrontational scene to happen in an unnatural way. The motivations and involvement of this divine force that has unclear reasons to involve themselves in this matter distract from the aunt's own agency and feelings because we have to look past the fact that this was a result of her being puppeted by divine possession to even accept that she meant what she said.

>>273378429
Well I mean it literally is deus ex machina ahahah I can't deny that, it's very literal with that.

>>273365223
this would be golden just by the sheer value of pissing off both kinds of most obnoxious people

>>273352649
This new director sucks, the Raya movie was terrible. Get a new one