The Fate/strange Fake premiere is almost here!
>>273422145I hope the wait was worth it
Will they continue from the OVA or add content to the OVA and ship it as episode 1?
It took forever for us to get another episode. Is it still in production hell?
>>273423074Pretty sure I read there's already simulcast planned with the NA distributors and we'll probably get an official release date for the weekly anime by the end of this. Should still be scheduled before the end of the year.
>>273422145I hate this fucking bitch so fucking much for killing this cutie like you wouldn't believe.
I'm not watching that shit in English, fuck Aniplex USA
Wait fuck this isn't subbed?
>>273423416>official release dateYou aren't going to get such substantial news before the New Years special.
Why is Yuki Ono there if they're going to show the dub?
>>273422145Best Rider
>some places in Strange/Fake are based from LAHuh? Isn't Snowfield in Nevada?
>>273423841Nope. Gotta power through the dub if you wanna watch it.
>>273423074A1 was forced to slow down their schedule after the suicide.
HOW MUCH LONGER FOR THE EPISODE PREMIERE?!
The livestream panel is so awkward. They really dragged the JP staff there for this?
>>273424451Its the exact same talkshow shit that goes on in JP panels.
>>273422145Gilgamesh won without even doing anything already. THAT'S his master? Lucky motherfucker.
START THE DAMN PREMIERE ALREADY, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO STAY AWAKE!!
>>273424670bro it's only 8:30pm
>>273425252It's 7:00 am for me. It's over.
>FSF part of the event>bring JP voice actor>premiere is dubbed>JP fans will have to watch a subbed version of this until the end of the yearReally funny choices were made across the board, that's that Aniplex touch.
>Ayaka eating a hotdogCute!
>>273423420He's lucky she killed him before Gil did it himself.
>>273423984Gawain likes large breasts though, not just youth.
>cursorgod the dev team on this shit is retarded
>Thank you for watchingIt's over. We got cucked after 7.5 hours.
>>273426028They confirmed the internet will get to watch it, so it's just them being fucking retarded.
>>273426048When did they say that?
>>273426048>They confirmed the internet will get to watch itYes. On December 31st.
>>273426087They said for viewers on site and on the broadcast that it would be a worldwide premiere. Of course, given the entire retardation of the event, it could be they spoke out their ass.
Stream over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8tCmS5OLq0Oh, they just dropped the full thing on Chrunchyroll. Fucking retarded
Seems like just extremely bad communication. I was shocked hearing that they would let people see it for free, aniplex doesn't do anything unless they can extract every single penny and yen possible. The people who paid to sit at that boring ass event all day will get to see it and that's it until 2025.
>>273426210>Can't watch it in my countryFUCK. I can watch episode 0. Why not this?
Pretty janky so far. Hope it's just for the premiere and they're going to fix it later, but isn't boding well.
>>273426210Does Gilgamesh have a Futanari potion in his vault?
Did I miss it or did they completely forget about the giveaway link and passcode?
>>273426703Passwords were in the corner at the start. Didn't bother looking for them from there. Not sure about the link, but saw people in the comments saying it never turned up. Whole thing was a clusterfuck start to end. That's what NFT funding does for you.
>A miracle on par with the third magicSo all holy grails are equal to the third? I remember fgo (I think?) saying all grails can potentially preform the third magic (even if the odds are small).
>>273426842This grail is specifically a piece of the Fuyuki grail so it should be able to perform the 3rd to some extent.
>The quality of the first episode is significantly lower than that of episode 0, from the thicker outlines to lower detailed art, less fluid sakuga, fewer kino reflections/lighting and fewer cinematic angles.WHY?! Can the old staff come back at least for the high priority episodes?
https://youtu.be/i8tCmS5OLq0?si=QAC7xEzb-jCTwGF7
>>273426210Why is Ishtar being mean to Ayaka
>>273427046That's not Ishtar yet
>>273427046Filia is a rouge enizbern homo who was reprogramed by Francesca to act as the lesser grail. She took on bitchier personality after but her actual personality was apparently sweet in her final message to ayaka before she croaked.
>>273426210>>273426971>dubbut why
>>273427213Murica
>>273427213Premiere in Hollywood. Japanese dub will air during the New Years special.
Flat actually has a good English dub voice, I'm shocked.
>>273426210Yeah idk why the fuck they said they'd put it in the livestream and then just dropped the VOD instead
>>273427359All of the voices have been fine so far for me, except maybe Prelati
>>273427417Faldeus was pretty meh.Ayaka's tone seems fine, but something about her didn't really vibe with me, same with Franceca.Richard and Dumas were fairly decent.I could watch through at gunpoint, but still not in any way preferable to real voice actors.
Have they said if it's going to be 13 or 26 for the first season? Feels like the best place to end would be Gil's death.
>>273427571Maybe around 13 and end it on Jack vs Alceides.
how long do we have to wait for Nip?
>>273427707Over a month. December 31st.
>>273426210>AltreaI have Nasu so fucking much
>>273427835How much Nasu do you have?
>>273427866Enough to miss my spells.
>>273423984Huh? The girl is a Master and he's a Saber and not even in this
>>273427921I think mostly Caster can do it.
Quick question; Do I have to watch something before Fate/Strange Fake?So far I've only seen Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works.
>>273428864Those are all you'd really need to understand what's going on.Have you watched the Whispers of Dawn episode already?
>>2734288641 episode special setting up everything: Fate/strange Fake: Whispers of Dawn
>>273426955I mean they explicitly said in the inteview that WoD is meant to be high effort compared to the rest. And even then they cucked us out of 2 Enuma Elish clashes and a couple of Zabaniyas despite the episode having 3 fight scenes total.
Did you like it, /a/?
>>273428864That would be enough, but there is a lot of references to other TypeMoon stuff there, they are unnecessary to the plot but can mislead you and get confused.
GOOD MORNING USAI'VE GOT A FEELING THAT IT'S GONNA BE A WONDERFUL DAYTHE SUN IN THE SKY'S GOT A SMILE ON ITS FACE AND IT'S SHINING A SALUTE TO THE AMERICAN RACEOH BOY IT'S SWELL TO SAY
>>273429423GOOD MORNING USA
>>273429094Yeah
Did they show Prelati tummy or that scene happens later?
>>273429094I like Dick.
>>273429568Do you mean her tummy's zipper? That would be later.
>>273429423MY FUARKING HERO
Mr. Langal?I'm CIA
With this, we get closer to my one true desireFanart of Sigma with the Emiyas
So if Ayaka's 16-17 in 1999, how come she looks the same in 2009? And yes, I know she's not Ayaka. that's not the point. The timeline isn't as retarded as in FGO Mahoyo collab, but Narita's supposed to care about this stuff more than Nasu.
>>273428984>>273428985>>273429251Ok I'll watch that episode, the truth is that I wasn't very aware of it.
>>273430147I didn't read later volumes so I don't really fully understand that happened to red riding hood, but I guess maybe she can't get older anymore.
Why are people complaining about being "forced" to watch this dubbed? Just don't watch it like me since there's bunches of shit to get through even without this.
>narita watched the whole stream>no one told him the episode would only be available in the US
>>273425744How does Gawain feel about Dog Gawain?
>>273430650His opinions on wives is that they should be young, female, and have giant breasts. So Barghest meets only 2/3. Funnily enough I think she's a huge fangirl of his and blushes whenever she sees him in Chaldea. Meanwhile Melusine is horrified to realise that Morgan giving her the name of Lancelot meant Morgan considered her a good standin for an adulterous manwhore, kek.
>>273430147Thinking about it, the Semina apartment case happened around what, 2002-2004? The gap isn't THAT large.
>>273426210>dub only>merica onlyI hate crunchyroll so fucking much
>>273431563SF Ayaka's backstory is incredibly retarded and one of the best cases of Narita's inability to not make a reference fucking things up.
I don't remember her but damn she looks fine.
>It was gas explosion>they bought it?
Will this adapt everything or is it like waver's LN again?
>>273432567Naritra said that he's writing the last volume so they probably can do wrap the whole thing, maybe with skipping one season between 12 episodes.
>>273432583cute
Anyone ripped it?
>>273432612In the trailer they showed stuff from at least Vol 3. Which kinda makes sense since WoD and this one cover the entirety of Vol 1
>>273432766I ripped some ass, but I don't think that's relevant.
>>273432835My guess that for the first season they'll adapt everything right up to the battle for hospital. They wouldn't show towelman in the trailers for the big twist.
>>273426955The production schedule is rough, best for the staff to allocate resources to the key action episodes rather than an introductory one.
>>273432146he looks like artoria's player 2
>>273433081That's basically what he styles himself as.
>>273432766https://files.catbox.moe/jan3du.mp4
>>273433283Who's in the bottom right besides Caules?
>>273432930The trailer had Bazdilot introduction and Richard vs Enkidu in the forest so I'm not sure about the twist part.
>>273432645hes so hot sisters,,,i wanna join his nun harem...
>>273433147Many thanks. Just curious about the animation. Do Americans really watch dubbed anime?
Police officers don't even respect Servant, heh.
>>273433298Caesarmund and Pentel sisters?
>>273433298NTR manga gyaruo guy.
>>273433313>get summoned in america
>>273433416I kinda surprised Narita didn't used a native American hero in these, wasted opportunity.
>>273433777Is it? Where would you put one? The original 6 were decided on since 2008, as well as Francesca so Geronimo isn't even eligible for the 2nd Caster slot.
>>273433885Crazy Horse True Rider. Not like he's done much with Hippolyta anyway.
wait i thought this would be in december?
>>273434090Well yes and no. The JP premiere will be on NY and the anime itself is scheduled for 2025.
>>273434090They showed the dub at an event in America, but it's region locked for everyone else.Japs will watch it during the NY stream
>>273434115>anime itselfIt's a series and not just an OVA?
>>273434090The Japanese sub is going to aired in FGO New Year's stream, so unfortunately we're stuck with only the dub until late next month.
>dubbedNo thanks
just mute the voice
is it as good as that ova
>>273434277Not really. It's not bad by any means, could be improved for BD
>>273434277This Excalibur felt a bit cheap >>273432146 It will have its strength undoubtedly, given also how long they are taking to make it, but it’s unrealistic to expect a full fledged series with that scope.Unless you are ufo.
>>273425696wtf are you talking about?she fucking burned him alive! With Gil you get a faster death + you get to be killed by a legend.
>>273434433The FSF anime will probably have some impressive highs due to the connections of the main staff, but the quality will be uneven as the production schedule is actually pretty tight.
I need a .webm of Francesca laughing
>>273434485Yeah its directors are top notch and Fate always attires high quality animators. Even a mid product like Apocrypha had the Chiron-Achilles fight that was one of the best animations of that year.Like you said we’ll have to see how it is its schedule, I’m a little positive about it, they seemed to take the time they needed.
>>273425539That's so disrespectful I'm going through second hand embarrassment over here. If this isn't evidence that the kadokawa buyout will unironically ruin anime forever then I don't know what is. We can't let these hacks get the keys to the industry.
>>273429094I would have taken part two of kalleid 3rei and I say that as someone who doesn't like the Illyaverse. Why can't one entry be completed before adapting another one?
>>273434640There are no completed entries in this franchise after Apocrypha.
I'd watch a Hollow Ataraxia anime though.
>>273434668Fragments I guess. Extra, Samurai Remnant.
>>273422145So is she a native american or something?
>>273434869Yes.
>>273430650His Voice Line for Barghest>Barghest, the mythical dog from Irish folklore.>Her armor seems to resemble mine... Is she a fan of mine?>She really does have an impressive build. If only Gareth could grow to be even half of Barghest's size...As for a romantic partner, she's too old for him.>>273431300And then Melusine went on and provide Morgan completely right with her whole "lover and husband are two different things" nonsense. The fact that she's so open about wanting to cuck Morgan makes it even worse.
>>273434890holy sex
>>273434142No we're getting a full anime adaptation
>>273435049She's 12
>>273435077Prime for impregnation
>>273435077Out of 10!
>>273435077years old!
Francesca Sex
>>273428864The more content you read from Type-Moon the more you get out of Strange Fake. At the very least you should read F/SN, F/HA, F/Z and Case Files.
>>273434433>Unless you are ufokek. This 4.338 second clip has 7 unique drawings, by the way. 5 of which are extremely similar.
>>273434433>>273436147Now, THIS is actual, OBJECTIVELY GOOD animation. With 82 fucking unique drawings in 3.545 seconds. You NEVER see Ufotable animate in 1s/23-24 unique frames per second like that. You RARELY even see them animate on 2s/12 unique frames per second. They usually animate on fucking 4s/6 unique frames per second.
>>273436147>>273436168Yes, let's blow our animation budget on every little scene, no matter how insignificant or transitory it is.Then when the important scenes and key moments happen, all the animators are burned out and we get half finished rush jobs. Brilliant plan, anon. You're the kind of person that wouldn't pace themselves in a race and try to run at full sprint from the beginning, then you get tired and finish last because you had to walk for half of the race.
>>273436168Based and true>>273436147I swear Zero wasn't quite this bad, but they probably covered up a lot with directing and shots even thenAt the very least they understood how to pace interesting fight choreography instead of spammy speedfestsDemon Slayer definitely not looking good there though
>>273434277There were no remarkable fights but overall animation and style were quite good.
>>273423420what's shirogane's dad doing here?
>>273436147>>273436283Demon Slayer is a bit of a meme at this point, but I like peak ufo direction. MAPPA and Toei are trying to imitate that style with a lot of post production but they just can’t match ufo’s style.
>>273436168>>273436283It's just a bunch of cherrypicking for or against. Ufotable can do supernal animation.
>>273436306is strange/fake getting adapted in any kinda timely fashioni dont wanna bother with a ryogo narita thing that comes out every like once a year
>>273436353It'll be a season, but this is not the start of the season, just an episode released ahead of time for the F/SN 20th anniversary expo.To make that shorter, no.
>>273433885Narita could swap his class but Geronimo isn't the only one native hero anyway. And also all native hero figures are quite obscure and that means you can do with them whatever you want.
There was supposed to be an American HS, but Ishtar screwed it up
Sub on 31st of December and still no word on when the rest will air?
>>273436536They'll probably announce a date after it airs on the 31st. The New Years special is where the vast majority of Type-Moon news for the next year is.
>>273436536If I had to guess, I'd say it's gonna be announced alongside the sub
>>273436323Getting roasted
>>273436340That's still animated on 2s, anon. Just go though it frame by frame on your favourite video player of choice.And we can't even appreciate that animation on 2s because their effects and compositing makes in looks gross as fuck and obscures all the detail in the art.
>>273436365can't wait for the first good fate anime since Fate/Cooking
>>273437008>And we can't even appreciate that animation on 2s because their effects and compositing makes in looks gross as fuck and obscures all the detail in the art.That is an entirely different point to make, though.
>>273433777>I kinda surprised Narita didn't used a native American hero in these, wasted opportunity.It was an unofficial rule that you don't use local heroes due to home ground advantage being unfair, and that is why most Japanese heroes were not used in Japan.
>>273437192And it's probably an official rule in the Apo timelineAt least in some Wars
I wonder they're going to animate Richard's reaction video to the "The Banquet of Kings"
>>273437232>Vladkek
>>273437384It'd be retarded if they didn'tIt's a key moment for his characterization, development and relationship with Ayaka
>>273437399That wasn't an officially sanctioned and regulated HGW
>>273436536It's not special one-hour episode, just 1st episode of TV so it should be in a winter season I guess.
>>273423984But we have never seen Rider Gawain? I would love one based on the Green Knight story too.
For me it's rockstar Richard
>>273422145no one cares about this shitty fanfiction shit with a awful 1D cast dumb redditor. only redditors like this shit because of powerlevelshit
>>273437418None of the subcategory wars are. The only exception is Einherjar and that's because it's a TV show.
>>273437618Uhh dunno what you're smoking, but this show is completely disregarded for powerlevel discussions since the fanfiction nature means any feats in the SF-verse aren't transferrable to the rest of Fate.
>>273435177Brown loli sexo
>>273422145Does Gilcuck job in this one?
>>273437729Of course.
>>273437721Do they mana transfer? It'd look like twins fucking.
>>273437729Yes
>>273437729One might say he jobs the hardest in this.
>>273437721Is Richard homosexual here too?
>>273433416>summon servant in america>it's George Floyd
>>273437745>>273437751>>273437765O.K I will watch.
So when is this airing properly?
Are legs like these Halal?
>>273437896Probably since 31 december, but not certanly.
>>273437819>makes opponents kneel uncontrollaby.
>>273422145>Gil was about tobdrink the Youth Potion before he sensed EnkiduKoGil was gonna fuck her, wasn't he?
>>273438028kek young gil definitely would have
This series is the call of duty of anime
>>273438112More like Lost of anime.
>>273432645Based cyborg priest.
They officially uploaded it on youtube. Only ENG dub thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8tCmS5OLq0
>>273438112Fate is the opposite of accessible
>>273438191No? You could start from any series at the cost of just missing all the references. Hell, I started with Carnival Phantasm.
I read that the banquet of kings goes differently in strange fake. Is it true? I hate the banquet and I might give this a chance if they improved it.
>>273438261I think it's the same, just Richard is going to tell that Saber wasn't wrong.
>>273438028Gil only likes boys. Especially this Gil.That's the reason Cucktar demanded her father to send the Bull of Heaven after Enkidude.
>>273438261Eh, it's mostly just adding a reference to FGO
>>273438297Enkidu isn't a boy.
>>273422145Are we getting more chocololi?
>>273438285I read this on the wiki, so I asked> The Grail Dialogue is from Fate/Zero penned by Gen Urobuchi. It is depicted in Fate/strange Fake, but the exact contents were changed after author Ryōgo Narita discussed the addition with Urobuchi.One should either pretend it doesn't exist or change it. Loathe it.
>>273438258Start people with UBW and tell me how many conversions you get.Good luck getting them to try any other entries after they've already dropped UBW.I'm glad you had a good time with Phantasm though, but to say it's as drop-in as COD ridiculous to the point of untrue.
>>273438347She doesn't appear in this episode, no. It's more of an Ayaka episode to settle us in to the semi-protagonist.
My beautiful wife Hyppo
>>273438424Rin...
>>273438355I don't really remember both things in exact details, but the banquet in F/Sf was just something that Richard saw, not the exact same scene from F/Z word to word. And after that he explains that Saber wasn't wrong or something like that.
>>273438388
>>273438497look at that little sexpot
Honestly, one thing I didn't expect reading FSF was for Orlando and Dumas to become my second favorite team
>>273438347Watch the prologue episode released what, a year ago now? It's got more of her in it and she'll be in more of the series once it properly comes out at the end of this year.
So is episode 1 a sequel to the OVA? Or they're redoing the story?
>>273432645Come, Quartet, now that our most important scene is over, we'll proceed to do nothing of substance for 8 volumes.
>already got spoiled by reading this threadfuck, couldn't LN readers have some courtesy?
>>273438738First episode of TV show.
>>273438762unironically use reddit for discussions of shows like this
Faldeus is such a clown
>Weird girl asks about a motel and leaves behind a way too big tip, saying that she's not gonna need itThat Punk 100% thought Ayaka was gonna kill herself
>>273438497that's just the OP
>>273438762What's to spoil? Richard's identity? Gil jobs?
>Nasu B: "You can also use (material about Dumas' novels)!">ME: "...">Nasu C: "Don't hold back. Write as much as you want.">Me, while writing: "Hmm, yes... (This is juicy material... I'm sure no one's used it yet)...">Nasu, wearing a gas mask: "Now announcing the Chateau d'If event and FGO chapter five!">Me, in March: "Gwaarrgh (It overlaps with a bunch of plot elements in Fake)! (Dies in agony.)">Nasu: "Who would have thought he'd actually die...">I don't know how many people will actually know about the elements that this conversation was based on. That aside, Sanda-san, who watched the tragedy unfold from the sidelines, said that he had a "bad feeling" and asked to be shown scripts for events in advance if the characters in them overlapped with his work. Two weeks later, he screamed, "They overlap!" and I was forced to watch him rework the entire second half of the Case Files plot. But that's another story.Why is Nasu like this?
>>273438814Asking about Hotels with elevators (tall buildings) probably didn't help kek
>>273438869Because he doesn't want his friends to restrain their creativity. Nasu let Higashide write his own Vlad III long after Fate/Extra had him, he would have loved it if Narita wrote his own version of Edmond Dantes. He can reconcile different imaginings of the same hero countless ways. It's Narita and everyone else who want to kneel before Nasu and refuse to touch his sacred cows, when the man himself wants people all over those cows.
I'll have to rewatch the special
>>273438359What are you talking about? UBW is unironcally not a bad entry point. Not deen UBW obviously but still.
>>273438869I don't blame Nasu, it's Narita who's too fanboyish and want to include every single piece of lore and put every possible reference in his novels. I think if you erase all worthless references from the all volumes you can cut them in half in length.
>>273438915It was honestly kind of sad how in the later novels he had Shadow Asclepius constantly meta-apologizing for not looking and acting like True Canon Asclepius(tm), very immersion breaking.
>>273438926What I'm talking about is that what I mentioned wasn't a theoretical.It's a heavy amount of languid pacing centered around characters you have zero attachment to. You have a couple of episodes to hook viewers before they go and find something more appealing.The perspective of a new viewer is entirely different than looking back at something with nostalgia goggles.
>>273439047Show one example of that
>>273422145erotic....
>>273439104
Please, tell me that they aren't going to stuff all volumes in 24-26 episodes. 3 episodes per book would be the absolute minimum even for the most action heavy volumes.
>>273439258Depends, are you the kind of person that thinks Babylonia's pacing was good?
>>273438915>when the man himself wants people all over those cowsDebatable. You could argue he let Sanda handle the Dismantlement war with Case Files/Adventures leading up to it, but there's still plenty of stuff he doesn't let go. They even said in an interview that TM is really light on writers. See how Einherjar went from "new volume in 2023" to "no news until 2025" because Sakurai had to work on Id. Also when a new writer shows up at TM they exam him on TM lore and considering they're still looking for a writer no one was able to pass.
>>273439274I wish they'd get Jin Haganeya on full time..
>>273439304sexy shrimp
>>273439274>Einherjar went from "new volume in 2023" to "no news until 2025"Oh so that's why
>>273439343Hassan of Wednesday
>>273439357Still has it better than Requiem
>>273439383wait this show has TWO cunnies?
>>273439407Yes
>>273439431Dear god...
>>273439407Yeah, at the bare minimun since the begining.
>>273439407Possibly three, the original design document said Jester's true form is a loli as well, but that might not be canon still.
>>273437765you can't job harder than against shirou. he still jobs in this, but it's a pretty reasonable conclusion.
>>273437525
>>273439451It absolutely still is. His real name is Dorothea, and he hates it when people call him that.
>>273439528>Two trans characters>Both are psychopathic monstersWhat did Narita mean by this?
>>273439528That doesn't mean they are a loli though.
>>273439383The black death a cute
Why the fuck was it dubbed instead of sub? And who exactly is this Ayaka girl? Real Ayaka has brown hair
>>273440614Quite literally fake Ayaka. Maybe even... strange fake.
>>273440687So who actually is she? Some unknown relative? And why does she look like Ayaka?
>>273440614She is indeed not Ayaka.In an extremely oblique way, she's more like Melusine's little sister.
>>273439357It could still be dropped for what we know but for now the Id and whatever other FGO work makes sense as an excuse.
>>273440793Actual spoilers if you want to know that, then.Like really, it's presented as a mystery.She's a large chunk of crystals harvested from the bones of Albion, given self-sapience. Her original purpose was an incredibly powerful magical energy reactor. Basically an ad-hoc holy grail.
>>273440799Wait so she’s another Albion?
>>273440793>So who actually is she?The end result of very specific circumstances.>And why does she look like Ayaka?Because of person A form creepy story of F/HA prologue. That's why she's scared of red riding hood and elevators.
>>273440852Ok fine, but why does she look like Ayaka then? And does this mean that she is not human?
>>273440896>Ok fine, but why does she look like Ayaka then? Because she had to look that way to cause certain reactions from the El-Melloi classroom. Her appearance was decided backwards from a future reading. She could've looked like anything.>And does this mean that she is not human?Literally everyone who sees her true nature recognizes her as not human and a potential threat to humanity. Thia tries to nuke her the second he lays eyes on her. Enkidu protects her, saying he is a friend to all life, not just humans.
>>273440799>>273440852She's actually a Fairy that was killed and split in six when Albion crashed on her while it was dying, she was also a wish granting device that amplified greed as a side effect
>>273440896A lesbian fell in love with Ayaka after being hypnotized byher and fused with the Red Riding Hood as a result of a wish, focusing so much on Ayaka made that appearance the result
>>273438028I fucking need some shota/loli doujins of this.
>>273440992>Because she had to look that way to cause certain reactions from the El-Melloi classroom. Her appearance was decided backwards from a future reading. I.. don’t understand
>>273441065Ayaka Sajyou is part of the El-Melloi classroom. And those guys show up in Snowfield in force later on.In the first episode with Zelretch and the voice from the phone? That was a powerful vampire divining a solution that doesn't end with Snowfield destroying the world. The solution involved the magical reactor looking like that, glasses and all.
>>273438869I'll never get over Nasu breaking the news that he just casually split the Fate and Tsukihime timelines with one sentence at a random pizza party, and literally nobody else knew that was happening until that point.
>>273440992>>273441006>>273441031Ok, so let see if I guess it right? She is a fairy born from Albion bones and shits, that fused with a human women who love Ayaka, that’s why she looks like Ayaka right? Man that is confusing
Now I think I understand what people meant with the whole Narita is autistic with references
>>273441170That one guy seemingly collapsing with relief that there's some kind of exception for him or whatever was hilarious
>>273441324It was Sakurai
>>273441291You know nothing if you didn't actually read it, it's just insane.
>>273441246Essentially yes, though rather than being a fairy herself, more like a holy grail built out of fairy bones. By rights she's not supposed to be alive, but the girl wishing for Ayaka made her alive.
>>273440852This is beyond retarded.Yeah I know it's probably a reference to Iri being a living grail but still.
>>273441246She's a wishgranting device made from albion bones and shit, one that compels people to wish on it.Pic related describes what that resulted in.Eventually Person A took her in, but that resulted in the thing taking the form of Ayaka due to A's crush on her.
>>273441489I thought person A has a crush on Ayaka and wish to look like her? Then she fused with person A and gain Ayaka’s appearance?
>>273441475Einsbern's castle in her flashbacks was a big redflag. No one could predict whatevet shit Narita's smoked for the rest of explanation.
Would Saber do better than Richard in SF?
>>273441730All else being equal? She'd force Gilgamesh to draw Ea where Richard didn't get so far. That's about it.Ayaka would be the greatest master in the world for Artoria, letting her use Excalibur without limit.
>>273437970Only if they are unsed to leglock me during sex
>>273438297>Gil only likes boysExplain his obsession with Artoria then
>>273441386Beat me, I have read every piece of Fate and TM media— besides LNs like Apocrypha or this, the premise of a Narita story with multiple POVs looked interesting (as Zero and Apoc both dropped those at one point to focus on the protagonist), but now I’m a bit afraid of missing something.
>>273424114Wasn't that like a decade ago? Or was there another one
>>273441562I'd partly misremembered, but yes, they do end up basically fusing once A fully succumbs to their combined clamlust and desire to be alone. Though as pic related states, the wishgranter was already starting to resemble Ayaka, probably because it was interpreting A's wishes.
>>273441893It's never been true, that anon's just pushing their headcanon
>>273439357Who the fuck are those two?
>>273441900Narita's great with the weaving narratives, it's his strength as a writer. The spotlight moves a lot in Strange Fake, it never feels like Ayaka or Sigma get the exclusive protagonist title.
>>273440769Chaldea is going to be heaven for this guy.
>>273441949Yeah, I stand with my opinion. It is fucking confusing
>>273442146It's very convoluted, I agree with you there.
>>273441730Regular Artoria is stronger then Richard, give her Ayaka as a Master and she would be spamming Excalibur left and right. Give her Avalon and no one is defeating her
>>273442044Ragnar and Aslaug
>>273442237Achilles would no diff
>>273439274>Also when a new writer shows up at TM they exam him on TM lore and considering they're still looking for a writer no one was able to pass.Nasu would change it whenever he likes anyway.
>>273442465no bro you don't understand it's impossible but through an "exception" it results in something very similar (but not quite just trust me there's a difference somewhere)
When is this series starting? Regularly I mean. I won't bother watching single episodes if I have to wait three months for the next one.
Flat is so cute, bros... So wild and silly. Richard is cute, too.This series has so many cute boys. I hope none of the cute boys die.
>>273442045Yeah that’s why I’m really looking forward to this. Nasu said Urobuchi did a “war” better than him, but that wasn’t entirely true, Kiritsugu was still the main protagonist. Than Apocrypha was even more disappointing. This should finally do the trick.
>>273442824It's a war with a chokepoint, of course there's a main protagonist kek
>>273422145Huh, I forgot about this.Isn't the first episode premiering December 31st though?
>>273442786Haha...
>>273442045I wonder if the opening will be like Baccano or Durarara'sIt would be nice considering the cast is massive
>>273443006Yes, but we got a pre-release for the English dub
>>273442824I don't think he was referring to a spotlight structure with just saying that "he did a war better than me", it could mean many things.In any case, FSN is a VN and Zero is a LN, in those mediums it's easier for immersion and comprehension to favor one of the perspectives.
Surely they wouldn't run out of budget for the NL vs GoB and the bull fight.
>>273439525That's rad, where does this came from. I love axes.
>>273443270Their EA animation was kinda meh so I thinkg a few seconds of good GoB animation it's their limit.
>>273443181I think I write it wrong. The point is that at end FSN is Shirou’s story and the war is mostly an excuse, he wanted to try to have the feel of a real war, but he still fell to those kind of limitation having an established MC.
>>273443478It's all setup no payoff, knda the same as the novel if you think about it.
I can't wait to see the shitposting when we see that Hippo's NP is Sukuna's World Slash except she only needs a horse and an axe
>>273443534Sad that she won't have abs
>>273443532Maybe, but have seen EA already, even many times in different forms.
>>273443560She has a cute butt though.
>>273436168Yutaka nakamura might be a good animator but his taste fucking sucks
>>273429094It’s ok so far
>>273441949>then take myTake her what?
>>273437729Canonically he shots only low level noble phantasms the entire time, so yes.
>>273438297>Gil only likes boysThe entire reason Enkidu was created is because Gilgamesh kept fucking all the women in his country, and the men went complaining about it too the gods
>>273439451>>273439528I thought most people believe she’s the PHH version of Dorothea From Samurai Remnant.
>>273443534All Sukuna has to do is point at you, hers isn’t better
>>273444048Sukuna needed to copy from Mahoraga and to do a whole chant that telegraphs the attack so much he can only get away with it cause everyone else is slower than himHippo got it through technique alone
>>273444008That hypothesis has been around ever since Dorothea was named that way, but nothing in Samurai Remnant ever implies she's the type of person who'd become an abomination who wears the living flesh of others.
Dorothea should've made autistic happa babies with Iori
How cute is Hyppolyta?
Was this episode a continuation of episode 0? Because it skipped some scenes from volume 1. What will be the pace? Because most good LN adaptations usually adapt 4, 5 or 6 episodes per volume.
>>273444313name said good adaptations
Why did the dub come first? It doesn’t make any sense
>>273442415Based
>>273444512AMERICAN grail war, watch it the canonical way
>>273444403Rokka adapted 1 vol in 13 ep
>>273441893>>273443963Gil couldn't go back to girls after he got a taste of Enkidu, faggots.Why do you think he humiliated, rejected and cucked Cucktar like that?
>>273445328>Gilgamesh Conversation 10 (Artoria Lily)She is so lovely, it's making my chest tighten with a modicum of adoration.This is the first time I have felt jealous of someone!Curse you, Merlin! But I absolutely forgive you!!
>>273432645>>273438741>Introduce legitimately good guy combat priests/priestesses in the Fate side work of the Nasuverse>They proceed to do absolutely fucking nothing for the whole series despite having a hyped up entrance in the first volumeI'm still mad.
So, why was everyone expecting Arthuria to be summoned and were surprised when Richard popped out? What were they even using as a catalyst?
>>273445819Yeah, same thing could've been said about like half of the cast. Because Narita introduced too many characters, they're all doing something, but that something so inconsiderable.
>>273438297>>273445328His dying words btw
>>273445822The container in which Avalon was sealed. Richard apparently saw it at some point or something.
>>273445822The casket that held Avalon which the Einzberns formerly possessed.Little did they know, Richard was the one to find and treasure this casket before the Einzberns got to it.
2019 PVWhispers of DawnTV SeriesWhy does it get worse with each new iteration.
>Spanish flamenco guitars in the scenes with cyborg priest JuanThey got that part right at least.
>>273446084I like the second one best. The dramatic lighting, lens flare on his sword, and Ayaka's defeated-yet-defiant posture sells better.But they just really wanted to recreate the original CG better I guess.
>>273445773>>273445970Shut up. Enkidu is CANONICALLY Gil's greatest treasure according to the ORIGINAL Epic of Gilgamesh. Some stupid parallel universe shit isn't going to change that.
>>273446084Because their budgent went into an action scene.
>>273446010So why didn't Einzberns attempt to summon Berserker Artoria with that casket?
>>273446224Because Heracles is the pinnacle of heroism and even stronger than Artoria.
Kirei dominated church representation on Fate-side Nasuverse works for so long that you forget that the Nasuverse church are actually genuinely cool and nice guys with no real catch. They kill demons, deranged heretics and unholy monstrosities no questions asked. And if you're one of the aforementioned, but still generally behave and don't harm anyone. They'll actually leave you alone for the most part.
>>273446224But why?
>>2734460841 and 2 are sidegrades, 3 is different for sure but still good.And the answer is simply time and budget.A PV is going to have a lot of time and budget into a few seconds, an OVA is going to have to spread a bit more, and a TV series is like 6-12 hours of animation depending on the number of cours.
>>273446286They do have some psychos who masturbate while ripping vampires limb from limb though.
>>273446324Unless you're thinking of someone else, isn't that person on the Tsukihime timeline though?
>>273446286Kirei is a B rank executor.
>>273446369Yes, and if the shenanigans he got up to with Gilgamesh reached the higher ups, they would've iced his ass.
I missed the stream and thread, what was announced in the anniversary? Besides F/S Fake premiere
>>273446475Something for US FGO I think.
>>273446475Nothing. It was mostly self-wankery with horrible framework funded by shitty NFTs.
>>273446360Strange Fake is in a merged universe where the human order is fighting for its life against the "???" and everything is pretty much almost, but not quite, utterly fucked.
>>273446213Based, they were the original fujo ship
>>273446324They're vampires. Stuff on the exterminate with impunity list.I think they can turn a blind eye to a little bit of arousal while dispensing God's will.
>>273445328Ishtar is literally the god of whores and has slept with animals. And is a gold digger. Why would anyone want to marry her?
>>273444103No, she got it through channeling Ares’ divinity.
>>273444110Samurai remnant is a pruned timeline, so her not acting like Jester isn’t a knock against the theory.
>>273446655She's also the goddess of love, fertiity and sex, which is why no man could resist her charm despite knowing that she's a piece of shit.Only Gilgamesh could. Because he got a taste of his Enkibro's cock and bussy.
>>273446609It's a grey area because sometimes innocent people are turned into vampires while keeping all their faculties intact.
Is Samurai Remnant worth playing?
>>273446655>and has slept with animals.So, has the father of humanity, Adam.> In another exposition, when Adam said this, he compared Eve to all the other creatures, for before her creation Adam had engaged in sexual relations with every animal and wild beast, but he was not satisfied until he had intercourse with Eve
What do I need to have watched or read to watch this? Is it it's own thing?
>>273446799It's the best Fate game besides Unlimited Codes by far. Story is actually good despite Sakurai being involved. Endgame Combat is awesome because Iori goes from weakling to CHAD.
>>273446799I guess if you keep your expectations in check.
>>273446865>What do I need to have watched or read to watch this? Is it it's own thing?Technically yes.>Nasu: Ah, actually. the 27 DAA haven’t become the 27 DAA in Fate.>Writers: …!!!???(everyone is shocked and has no idea what he is saying)>Nasu: The 27 only become the 27 in worlds that have Tsukihime as their core. On the flip side, there’s no familiars known as servants in Tsukihime worlds, right?>Sanda: But Complete Materials!?>Nasu: That was burned by the incineration of human history. Oh right, don’t worry about Narita-san’s Strange Fake. It’s a special case set between both types.>Narita: A-Ah, Yes. T-Thank you very much…!?>Nasu: But Sanda should stick to this with case files. It’s a long story, but in Tsukihime remake…>Sanda: Wait! Wait! Kinoko wait! I’ll make a questionnaire that we can then turn into a digest that we can all use, so just wait!>Nasu: Eh, that’s such a bother. Anyway, this Pizza sure is delicious.>Higashide: Hohoho, my series is already finished so good luck.>Sakurai: (While listening carefully) It doesn’t appear like this will have an effect on my work for now.>(Sanda): That was the most shocking day of my life.
>>273446865It is its own thing but you need to watch/read EVERYTHING to understand it fully.
>>273446865You SHOULD read the Fate/Stay Night visual novel to have a grasp of the scope, as well as the Fate/Zero light novel because it's heavily referenced.It is "its own thing" as much as anything Type-Moon is, but all of Fate is reliant upon Stay Night.You can watch it without anything else, but you won't get all the references, and Narita fucking loves his references. Of course, he references literally everything he can, so if you want to get them all you have to become a full fledged Type-Moon scholar with every other entry, so that's a touch hopeless.
>>273446736>Samurai remnant is a pruned timelineReally?
Ok be honest, is it worth watching now and suffering through the dub or do I wait for the sub?
>>273446917Sanda…
>>273446978May as well wait. The episode's not especially exciting. It's just more groundwork and setup for the future, as the remainder of volume 1 content.
>>273446917>>273446943>>273446948thanks lads, is Whispers of Dawn the prolouge? is this going to be a full series or ova or what?
>>273447027Yes, and a series was confirmed last year. They’ll probably give more info on it during the JP New Years steam
>>273446799No, it's not worth it even if you are a big fan.
>>273447027Yes. It is currently confirmed for at least one season with Whispers of Dawn serving as an episode 0.
>>273447109>>273447171I see, I think I'll wait till the series is completed before I jump in, but the premise and location seem really cool. Do you guys have any recs to brush on fate lore? I feel like I still only have a tenuous grasp on it all.
>>273422145>Gilgamesh gets THIS as his master
So, is the japanese PREVIEW going to air December 31, or like, it's the actual show (as in, we get episode 2 the following week) going to start December 31?
>>273447324There in no news about it so expect the actual announce of TV show on december 31. But I think since it's episode 1 and not another one hour special I think that there is a chance for it to start airing in January.
>>273446799I got over 100 hours of fun out of it, so I'd recommend it. There are 3 DLCs too, they were pretty fun. Best is the first because best girl Ibuki is in it and eventually becomes playable.
>>273447238There is and only ever has been one place to start with the Fate franchise, and it's reading the 100 hour Fate/Stay Night visual novel.If you cannot do that, this is not the series for you. The entire rest of the series is built upon what Stay Night teaches the audience.
I’m still upset Gilgamesh didn’t get a real set like the other servants in the game
>>273446286I get the whole killing off demons and other eldritch horrors bit, but what exactly is the distinction between your typical "heretic that must be executed" and "average mage association nigga" for the Nasuverse Church's naughty list?Mages by their inherent nature kind of shits on the whole God's providence thing that the Church is supposed to be stewards of. So what exactly is stopping the church from going jihad on what boils down to a bunch of occult nerds that occasionally commits a bunch of atrocities? Why the fuck is the association is still around then.
Fuck the Clocktower, and fuck the Church. I'm joining The Wandering Sea.
>>273447509Exterminating entire clans of inbred nerds isn't really a good look for the church. Most mages are still technically human. If a mage does do really crazy shit, then the church does get the green light to do some holy locker shoving. But for the most part, the church just watches over the nerds and makes sure they don't do anything too retarded.
>>273446917Nasu needs to stop bullying Sanda!
>>273447509Human experimentation of any sort, but especially research into vampirism.>So what exactly is stopping the church from going jihad on what boils down to a bunch of occult nerds that occasionally commits a bunch of atrocities? Why the fuck is the association is still around then.They keep their human experimentation very well concealed nowadays.
Are Gil and Richard gonna bond over their Artoria obsession?
>>273447753Their obsession is very different, even Gawain is obsessed with idea to serve his king. And I remmeber in CCC he's shit-talking Gilgamesh for insulting his king.
>>273447509If they had the power, they'd wipe the mages out, but they're essentially stalemated.
>>273447509Because the Mage's Association is powerful, and it would take a ton of time and resources to wage a war against them. They also don't all do fucked up shit, we know because Enforcers exist and they are a division in the Mage Association who's entire task is getting rid of rougue mages doing shit.The MA is the lesser of two evils compared to the 27 DAA.
>>273448676>Enforcers exist and they are a division in the Mage Association who's entire task is getting rid of rougue mages doing shitThis. Enforcers are basically a team of cops of and auditors that keep the more unsavory elements of the Mage's Association under wraps by whatever means necessary. They don't want war with the Church either, so they police themselves so that the Church doesn't get notions about needing to mount a war against them. The MA aren't combatants by nature. They're researchers, nobles, and historians who want to preserve Magecraft. If they draw too much ire from the Church it jeopardizes everything they've built and worked to maintain. Enforcers snuff out or lock up anyone who risks drawing too much attention or that could harm mage society as a whole.
>>273446799it's decent that is if you like musou gamesalso felt like a proper samurai fate adventure game rather than an fgo spinoff game
I liked that scene in Fate/Zero where Kiritsugu's father had BOTH the MA and Church after his ass.
>>273448611sex
>>273448994shirou...
Can't wait
>>273448632Too bad Fate is dead and there won't be any Francesca doujins.
i like how the anime sticks to morii shizuki's style
>>273449067
>>273449183>TELL ME ABOUT TRUE ARCHER! WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?!
>>273449099if she appears in fgo, there'll be a chance she'll get a doujin
>>273423984>"No wonder Japan has so much debt"
>>273449251if i snipe you off, will you die?
>>273449251Towel.
OH N-
>>273449067>American government agent>uses an Islamic terrorist to kill an Italian-American mafioso as well as bunch of American politiciansWow, Narita sure knows his field.
God imagine Tine's underage hairy pussy.
>>273449285I'll fall flat.
>>273449256He*
>>273449566oh right, almost forgot about it
>>273449566if she has a fuckable row of teeth on her belly, she's a woman
>>273447823>I remmeber in CCC he's shit-talking Gilgamesh for insulting his kinThat was great, I love it when character shit talk Gil instead of turning into spinless cucks
>>273434860>Extrai heard the extra series continues with extella, never played them
>>273449516>Got BTFO by Touko and Zouken
ENTER
>>273449684>Got BTFO by ToukoShe also BTFO Touko back. It wasn't a one side thing as some Redfags like to claim
>>273449684nta but qrd?
>>273449566We don't concern ourselves with original gender around here, unless you think it's straight to fuck this thing.
>>273449732>Driven by fear, no believing in magic saving us now>'Cause I can't make sense of what goes and what comes around>We've all learned to hide amongst ourselves
>>273449786Somehow, I read the filename as "Jester Cactus"
>>273449732For me, its fuchsia pink nun and eyepatch nun
>>273449256I want her and Manaka so bad.
I can fix her
>>273450169Sigma...
>>273447668Especially since he’s the only one actually expanding the mage lore, Nasu is one lazy fucker
>>273450169We know, Sigma
>>273450211>>273450216Plot twist, she is gonna fix Sigma. Well from a Islamic POV I guess, but fixed nonetheless.
>>273449732DAbros...it's over
>>273447509The church hunts down anything that could hurt or harm humanity's position as the top dog.Hence why in Arcueid/Ciel calls the church in Fate not as aggressive as they are in Tsuki, and why the hunted down and killed all of the True Ancestors except Arcuied, why they hunt down Dead Apostles, etc.
>>273450284>from a Islamic POVIs she going to marry him and give him 13 children?
>>273450347Only if they survive the story. We'll only know in 10 years though.
>>273450347Yes and their first child is going to be Tsubaki.
>more Tine fanart soon
>>273450169Why is the religious lunatic the hottest character in this HGW?
>>273450376It's gonna end next year
>>273450329>why the hunted down and killed all of the True Ancestors The Church never killed any True Ancestor. Ciel outright states they have few records of even fighting against them.
>>273422145>Another boring grail war>Filled with boring mahiYaaaaaaaaaaaaaawnWake me up when Avalon le fae happens
It's not the same without niconico stream...
>>273450568Mario quite literally says they have weapons that kill true ancestors, cope
>do you know of any cheap motels around here>he actually helps herI thought he was going to invite himself to the motel or something
>>273450675They're barely competent to kill a single DAA in 2000 years.
>>273450675Said weapons did jackshit against Arcueid. And again, Ciel states the Church has few records of even fighting them.
>Dumas uses Internet ExplorerNice reminder that this takes place in 2009
>>273450682I guess its inspired of story of actually nice bikers/alt groups.
>>273450169Loved her music here. Sawano killing it as usual.
>>273450877That's like saying since a gun would kill a normal human it should kill Heracules.
I WANT TO FUCK FRANCESCA
>>273437776He's probably fucking ayaka but saladin and Richard probably had the Shonen sexual tension rivalry
>>273451036Mario still wasn't carrying planet-destroying conceptual weapons, which is the requirement to kill the average TA. Even if they were somewhat effective, I doubt he ever even put them to practice.
>>273451262>saladinI hope we get a design for him when Richard talks about killing a DA alongside him and the Hassan of the time
>>273450347>>273450432Hes gonna have to convert to Islam first.
>>2734326452b cosplayer on the right
The Church has sick cyborg martial art priests and crazy multitool weaponry like Seven. How can the mages association even compete?
>>273450877>obviously such a weapon does not existExcept Atlas's seven sealed weapons, lest ye destroy the world seven times over et cetera.Black Barrel would absolutely kill Arc, it's tailor made to force a powerful immortal body to die.It's weird that Remake Ciel didn't bring Longinus while original Tsukihime Ciel had it (but never found an opportunity to use it).
>>273451826With all kinds of bullshit esoteric nonsense and ways to avoid judgment falling down on them. Mages like structure, but they also like to cover their asses. While the Mage Association might not have the most average firepower, they have a handful of heavy hitters to make sure they aren't too far behind in the arms race. They've got freaks like Lorelei, Touko, and Kirschtaria among their ranks. They don't all get along, but they can muster muscle when they need to. In a direct confrontation or in a hard-and-fast assault, the Church probably wins out, but it depends on who assembles their forces first without being found out. Mages have great surveillance, and it'd be hard for the Church to do anything serious unnoticed. The Church has a handful of powerful relics and the Burial Agency is full of bullshit whackos, but the Mage Association has their own freaks and strange objects of power.
>>273441006goddamit Melu, stop fucking shit up
>>273451675he doesn't really believe in anything so he doesn't have a system to abandon. maybe the light of allah will fill the emptiness of his soul.
>>273451996>Black Barrel would absolutely kill ArcNo. We're directly told killing Arcueid through human means is impossible. This is the exact same reason the Black Barrel was ruled out as a trump card against U-Olga, because the Black Barrel is unable to measure the lifespan of celestial bodies.>Longinus Longinus explicitly failed against Woodwose who is around the same scale of True Ancestors as an A-Ray.
>>273451826The Crypters and Marisbury.
>>273452112>No. We're directly told killing Arcueid through human means is impossible. This is the exact same reason the Black Barrel was ruled out as a trump card against U-Olga, because the Black Barrel is unable to measure the lifespan of celestial bodies.The Barrel Replica of Chaldea is not nearly on the same league as the original Black Barrel, which is able to cast down Ultimate Ones. It's not that it can't measure them, it's that Fujimaru's fate will run out before it completely measures them. (You) prove to be inadequate ammunition.The real Black Barrel doesn't have that limitation.>Longinus explicitly failed against Woodwose who is around the same scale of True Ancestors as an A-Ray.Wrong Longinus. It's another name for the real Black Barrel, I wasn't talking about the Spear of Selection.Also while Woodwose can block it, if he doesn't block it it worked just fine, but that is neither here nor there.
>>273452112that wasn't the real longinus, it was one of the gift they gave Morgan as a child, like the stuff castoria has
>>273442753Late 2025
Two more weeks and Church will finally find a weapon to kill DAA.
>>273452267>The real Black Barrel doesn't have that limitation.Again; "killing Arcueid through human means is impossible". No buts or ifs. So either the Black Barrel was nerfed or Arc was buffed.>if he doesn't block it it worked just fineNo it's just that he was debuffed first.
>>273452383>Again; "killing Arcueid through human means is impossible". No buts or ifs. So either the Black Barrel was nerfed or Arc was buffed.Or Black Barrel isn't considered a human means. Or Ciel is talking in general and not absolutes, like literally fucking always.>No it's just that he was debuffed first.He wasn't debuffed, Gareth did nothing but attack him. She doesn't have any debuffing powers, she just prevented him from putting his guard up and gave Percival an opening to zap him.
>>273452267Black Barrel can "destroy" Ultimate Ones, but it can't actually kill them. Every Ultimate One struck down by Black Barrel was still alive. The body is transient, but the soul continues on. There is no way for a human to kill an Ultimate One. The best you can do is break down the body.
how much gacha shit is this in? if it has any references to that godawful gacha im not bothering to watch it
>>273452481Well it would pop Luminous Arc like a soap bubble and leave her quite bodiless and helpless, whether "truly" dead or no.
>>273422145I thought this picture was from .hack
The characters of Fate/strange fake feel more shallow than in most Fate stories. A lot of these characters lack depth in their interactions and dialogue. Sigma feels less fleshed out than Shirou, Kiritsugu, or even Hakuno and Sieg. And I don't even like Sieg.
>>273452547A lot. Every second is gacha reference.
How would Alexander Anderson fare as an enforcer of the Church in Fate/Tsukihime?
>>273452547There is a good bit past volume 3.
>>273452557In the circumstance that the planet still lives, if Arcueid were to actually "die", the planet would just recreate her back to her factory settings. The reasons the Ultimate Ones in Notes couldn't do that was because they were away from their celestial bodies, but that wouldn't be an issue for Arcueid unless the planet itself was already dead. Of course, if the planet was actually dead, then Arcueid wouldn't be around to fight in the first place.For Shiki, of course, that would kinda suck since he'd prefer to preserve Arcueid in her present state. The conflict regarding Arc's survival isn't the death of the Archetype, but the death of the personality. If Arcueid "dies", she'd reboot but she wouldn't Funny Vamp anymore.
>>273452438>Black Barrel isn't considered humanThis is a straight up lie and pure cope and you know it. >or Ciel is talkingThat's the narrator talking not Ciel. Also remember, Arcueid goes Luminary if she is physically destroyed.>Gareth did nothing but attack himThis is wrong. Gareth did injure him because she is a reincarnation of Ainsel. Here's NA vs Rayshift. And the JP for good measure: 愚か者、鉄の武器であろうとオレには通じん！妖精としての格の違いを思い知ぬぅあ！？There is no reason for him to take damage from Percival's spear had he not been injured first.
>>273452377Taiga?
>>273452677probably in the burial agency when fully powered up, otherwise pretty much same level as Kirei
>>273452571I find it exactly opposite. What brings you to that conclusion? Sigma's got my favorite storyline in Strange Fake. The moment he decides to subdue the Kuruokas especially was the most intense and passionate scene in all of SF.
>>273452834Halal
>>273452703Arcueid wouldn't die to the Black Barrel anyway given Fantasy Dequantification renders any attack worthless. And in case she thinks it could hurt her she'd heal from the damage due to being an energy body.
>>273452834Because regardless of his moments, his character feels weaker than Shirou's, Kiritsugu's and Hakuno's. Maybe it's because he's not actually the sole viewpoint character, but the same could be said about Kiritsugu. I don't feel anywhere near as emotionally invested in his story as I do those other protagonists.
>>273452715>This is a straight up lie and pure cope and you know it.It's a sealed weapon, it's not meant to be an option.>That's the narrator talking not Ciel. Also remember, Arcueid goes Luminary if she is physically destroyed.Black Barrel would destroy that even easier. The energy of the planets (grain) is exactly what Black Barrel annihilates. Scaling more energy is self-destructive against it.>This is wrong. Gareth did injure him because she is a reincarnation of Ainsel. Here's NA vs Rayshift. And the JP for good measure:All he's saying is "ow"? Because she hit him? With her spear? There's no magic. It's just attacking him so he can't block.
>>273452888>Fantasy Dequantification renders any attack worthless.Arcueid still recognizes attacks that harm her even in that state, and there's no doubt Black Barrel would be in that category. She's more than familiar with it.
>>273452910>hakunobro you're just trolling
>>273452778By fully powered up do you mean the monster of god/thorn form?
>>273452910I dunno, child soldier killing machine learning that he has emotions after all is a great story to me.
>>273453065yes
>>273453050You're reading Hakuno's narration the entire time you play Fate/EXTRA and CCC. You're constantly reading their thoughts, their emotions, the pain they feel. Hakuno is absolutely more fleshed out than Sigma and you become strongly acquainted with their thought processes and views as you progress.
>>273452911>It's a sealed weaponThe text says nothing about excluding sealed weapons, so that's on you to prove it. Also Logos React is still used despite being "sealed", so again, no reason to believe the 7 weapins of Atlas are exempt from the statement.>Black Barrel would destroy that even easierYou can't destroy energy. The Black Barrel destroys being made of Grain, it doesn't destroy Grain itself.>There's no magicHe took damage with an iron weapon which is poisonous to fairies.
>>273453102damn, how are the other people at the burial agency like?
Luv my Hakuno
>>273453071Seems like a step down from "machine pretending to be human". He just feels so inferior to the others, especially Shirou and Kiritsugu.
>>273453131>The text says nothing about excluding sealed weapons, so that's on you to prove it. Also Logos React is still used despite being "sealed", so again, no reason to believe the 7 weapins of Atlas are exempt from the statement.Just like Black Barrel, only Logos React replicas like Add are ever used. Nobody is allowed to even touch the real one, except the head of Atlas.>You can't destroy energy. The Black Barrel destroys being made of Grain, it doesn't destroy Grain itself.It explicitly destroys Ether, which is what the Luminous Body is made out of.>He took damage with an iron weapon which is poisonous to fairies.And that has nothing to do with what was going on. The only reason the Spear of Selection worked was because he could not block it due to Gareth stabbing him. He has to actively counteract it to survive. He was not just immune to it.
You can't kill this Churchkeks. Let it go
>>273453178Shirou had the bulk of a 100 hour visual novel dedicated into exploring his history and his headspace, it's an unfair comparison. I like Sigma more than Kiritsugu, myself. Kiritsugu after everything just comes off as an idiot who refuses to fix himself after making mistake after mistake and just wallowing in the suffering that he should have foreseen.Sigma at least has the benefit of listening to his heart, he just had to learn how after being deafened to it his whole life.
>>273453449Even then, Kiritsugu is a more engaging character precisely because of his miserable flaws. Whether he succeeds or fails, whether he achieves something or falls even further into despair, there's something to him.Sigma feels generic to me. I don't really care much whether he lives or dies. I feel like I've seen his character a thousand times before.
>>273453544i feel like you just speedread
>>273453544I don't see it. How's it generic to wake up from a cold mercenary life? I want him to succeed and learn happiness. It's not something denied to him like Shirou, and it's not something he denies himself like Kiritsugu, it's just something he was never instructed on how to achieve. So he has to fumble, guided by snarky-ass shadows and making gambles with impossible information left right and center. And it leads to a man shooting down a goddess while choosing to save a life.
>>273453362>only Logos React replicasExcept Zepia was using the true Logos React in Case Files. And it doesn't matter if nobody is allowed to use them when multiple characters use them regardless. From Goddo to Enhance and Ciel in the old continuity. So again, the idea the narrator statement was excluding the original Black Barrel is baseless.>It explicitly destroys EtherNo, it destroys beings made of Ether. Also the Black Barrel doesn't even work by modern Nasu given the whole basis behind it was that it destroys Ether because it's powered by True Ether. Yet in modern Nasu the planet and the Luminary are made of True Ether, not fake Ether. The whole mechanics of the Black Barrel have been changed for years now.>The only reason the Spear of Selection worked was because he could not block it due to Gareth stabbing himHe was poisoned. You have no evidence he'd need to block it had he not being poisoned first.
>>273453134in the original tsukihime timeline, they were powerful enough to capture/kill vampire on a level similar to Alucard without using suicide tactics . they are considered monsters among monsters .Ciel is the weakest of the burial agence, and she is in only because of her immortality
>>273453661Because I've read enough manga to have seen this character archetype before multiple times. Do you think "cold mercenaries" are rare in fiction? A "seemingly emotionless person awakening to emotion" is pretty common.
>>273453680*vampires, as in multiple
>>273453680What are you talking about? Arcueid was always meant to be special even back then. The original Tsukihime didn't really go into this, but during the round table discussion he did go into some of Arcueid's hidden lore. Arcueid isn't meant to be "just a strong vampire". She was always supposed to be the highest tier of vampire.
>>273453792we are talking about Alucard from Hellsing here, go to sleep
>>273453670>Except Zepia was using the true Logos React in Case Files. Just observing it.>And it doesn't matter if nobody is allowed to use them when multiple characters use them regardless. From Goddo to Enhance and Ciel in the old continuity. So again, the idea the narrator statement was excluding the original Black Barrel is baseless.It's part of Nasu's writing, the narrator basically never speaks with true absolutes. Saying "there's no way" is never, ever, EVER true in Type-Moon. It is always "there's no normal way", or "there's no feasible way". Exceptions upon exceptions form the foundation of this world. There are five absolute facts of what you can't do, and that's true magic. Everything, literally everything else is circumstance.Saying Arcueid could not be killed by human means only means the methods available to Ciel. Otherwise, how would Shiki affect her? Are MEoDP not human means anymore either?>He was poisoned. You have no evidence he'd need to block it had he not being poisoned first.What is with this weaseling? He very clearly did block it.
>>273453680>*Ciel was the weakestFixed.
>>273453715I sure don't see it often. I see tough guys learning to care, not the emotionless child soldier hired gun who would be a faceless mook in any other story.
>>273452910Ayakas the protag maybe that's why
>>273453670Forgot to acknowledge the second point cause I'm tired.>Yet in modern Nasu the planet and the Luminary are made of True Ether, not fake Ether.No, they're fake ether. True Ether stopped existing after the end of the age of the gods. Black Barrel is the only piece remaining for reasons unknown.
>>273453680Ciel wasn't the "weakest" of the Burial Agency, she was just the least effective. Mr. Dawn is obviously way weaker than she is, but he's also arguably more valuable due to his unique ability. All Ciel knows is violence. It's literally all she's good for. So while she's not the "weakest", she's also the most expendable. She doesn't have any truly unique ability, she's just violence incarnate.
>>273453840>Just observing it.Doesn't matter, he was making use of it.>the narrator basically never speaks with true absolutes.Unless the statement is proven wrong afterwards there is no reason to believe it's wrong. Especially when this is one of those cases where it's clearly meant to be absolute.>Saying Arcueid could not be killed by human means No because it's not talking only about Ciel. And like it doesn't even matter because Ciel could always get her hands on the Black Barrel.>ShikiYes MEoDP are an ability of the realm of the divine, which fits the context described by the narrator in the scene.>He clearly did block itHe literally just tanked it.
>>273453898Ayaka's even less interesting than Sigma.
>>273453937>True Ether stopped existing after the end of the age of the godsWhich we know isn't true because the Ether in Avalon is explicitly True Ether. Avalon was never affected by the texture of the surface. Only the surface texture lost True Ether.
One thing I like about Sigma is that it's not so much that he's developing humanity but rather that he always had it but was buried under the fact that he was raised to be a weapon from birthShown in simple stuff like his love of comedies or the fact that he formed connections with at least two of his fellow child soldiers to remember them until now
>>273453990>Unless the statement is proven wrong afterwards there is no reason to believe it's wrong. Especially when this is one of those cases where it's clearly meant to be absolute.The narrative wasn't going to break the dramatic tension and say "oh except for these irrelevant items currently in fucking egypt lmao". Of course it's going to put it as dramatic as possible to raise the stakes. Nasu is a writer. Telling a story. Not describing the ironclad facets of his world with every single sentence.
>>273454073...Well. Yeah. That's obvious. That's not a particularly surprising feature. Fucking Solid Snake was doing that over a decade before Sigma was even conceived.
>>273454142Fine, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I enjoy the ways that humanity is shown
>>273454142Solid Snake is cool, though. Solid Snake in a Holy Grail War having to make do with no servant but locally limited omniscience (so long as he asks the right questions) is radical as hell.
>>273454220Sure, but he's also a hell of a lot more charismatic than Sigma. Whether it's Snake or Big Boss, seeing one of them overcome the odds while the other plunges further and further down past rock bottom is engaging. It's why they're loved.I guess what sets Sigma apart is that he's not a charismatic lead, but rather a nobody. But the problem with nobodies is that they're deliberately made to be toned down, especially in terms of personality. Hakuno is supposed to be a nobody as well, but their defining trait is that they're literally incapable of giving up no matter how much they're beaten down. It's their Autism Trait. Every Type-Moon protagonist except Guda has an Autism Trait, like Shirou with his superhero thing or Iori being a fightfag. Hakuno's trait is that they can't give up, even if their arms and legs are evaporating. This principle trait is why Hakuno's a protagonist while Sigma is kinda sharing the spotlight with Ayaka.
>>273454107>The narrative wasn't going to break the dramatic tension and say "oh except for these irrelevant items currently in fucking egypt lmao"Which is not a compelling argument. Since all he needs to do is not speak in absolutes, like saying maybe or almost. If he wanted there to be some exception that's all it would have taken, and it would have carried the same nuance across. Instead he makes an explicitly absolute statement. So again, you're wrong. Also Arcueid's Luminary and the Inner Sea are full of True Ether, not fake Ether. So the Black Barrel isn't going to be effective.
>>273453680looking at the wiki, either it's incomplete or they are overhyped. Most members have nothing to describe them or their abilities. Well, nothing to directly suggest that they can take down multiple Alucards (except being member of the burial agency).I'm the furthest from a scholar of Tsukihime, but as far as I can see Alexander Anderson base form would measure up to them. Especially due to his regeneration (only countered when Alucard used Anti-regen explosive bullets).
>>273454486Just for completitude's sake, what's Shiki's Autism Trait
>>273454628Black Barrel is a weapon that destroys the world. The previous statement that weapons can't destroy the world is already made false by its existence, but the narrative doesn't note that.Arcueid is a world. There is no reason to believe Black Barrel would fail at killing her. She is exactly the kind of thing it is made to kill. Planets are filled with grain by their nature, and Arcueid is filled with the Earth's energy. She's the same kin as the other Ultimate Ones.I'm pretty sure Nasu just changed what "true ether" actually meant somewhere between Notes and Babylonia.
>>273454887It's slightly more complex, but it's basically the juxtaposition between his ideologies and his base instincts. To put it another way, it's his attitude towards life and death. It's the defining element that makes him cool, but also brings him constant pain.He's basically a mountain kid, same as Soujurou and Kiara, so naturally he has a few screws loose by default.
>>273454924World =/= planet. We know there is no conceptual weapon capable of destroying the planet, period. And this is stated by Ciel who knows of the existence of the Black Barrel. So again, baseless.>I'm pretty sure Nasu just changed what "true ether" actually meant somewhere between Notes and Babylonia.Hence my point. The OG Notes Black Barrel wouldn't do shit agaisnt Arcueid or any being operating on True Ether because True Ether is the planet's energy and not fake Ether which is created by humans. You're mixing up two different continuities that are fundamentally incompatible with one another. Wait for the original Black Barrel to show up in modern Nasu or something.
Superweapons capable of destroying the world aren't uncommon anyway. If anything, there seems to be less of them now than there were back in the Age of Gods. The Alchemists of Atlas are extraordinary for being able to create seven of them during the Age of Man. Black Barrel is almost certainly an Age of Man creation since guns didn't exist during the Age of Gods.
>>273455255>since guns didn't exist during the Age of Gods.The greek gods were mecha with space cannons and everything
>>273455133>Super-genius who obtained every Zabaniya>Strongest Hassan doesn't even have a Zabaniya
>>273455294>Narita: "This is my original Servant. She's a Hassan candidate who mastered all eighteen Zabaniyas except Hundred Personas'.">Nasu: "Actually, the first Hassan doesn't have a Zabaniya.">Narita: "Nyoro~n..."And then he had to make up a new Hassan wwho overlaps with King Hassan in order to make his OC work.
>>273436168what does it matter if you blow your load on animating when you draw well proportioned characters nor compose a shot (even if that isn't technically his job). this looks fucking embarrassingly bad.
>>273455255It's stated in Shinjuku that there is no weapon or Noble Phantasm capable of destroying the planet, and "even if an anti-planet NP existed on paper, it wouldn't be enough to destroy this one". The planet has conceptual defenses that prevent destruction by natives.
>>273455425Who ever said the Hassans went from One to Nineteen?
>>273455425The REAL sin of Nasu is naming First Hassan's noble phantasm "Azrael" and not "Maalik", the actual chief of the 19 Zabaniyya.
>>273455461Nah. Even if you can't destroy the planet, there are more than any number of ways to destroy the "world". How many times do you think humanity's been wiped out by now? All the World's Evil can be described as a world-destroying superweapon as well, even if its creation was a complete accident.
