It's real

>>274255079
The thing is that my life always got worse not better when I was working so "get a job and free exploitation" isn't a solution either.
For the last ten years I adapted to an alternating life style in which work for half a year or a year (or two) and quit to NEET for half of that time before I get the next job. Worked in my last job for a year again so currently I am in the six-month lasting NEET phase again. I ALWAYS feel better during the NEET phase. By no means is it perfect but it's less terrible than the horror of a job that steals 90% of of lifetime.

>>274255079
>imagine yourself 30 years from now
I have been waging for 30 years, still can't afford a home, still have to return to my parents
what now?

>>274255323
At Least You Tried™

>>274255323
Same here. A single room apartment that barely has space for a bed, the "kitchen" and a small table costs almost 800 EUR (more in dollars) per month and after 15 years of working I know for sure that working hard will never get you anything. Meritocracy barely exists, you get promoted if you have connections or if you are good at bootlicking, otherwise no chance ever escaping the ubiquitous minimum wage that won't even be enough for the rent, fuck everything.

>ahhhh I don't have a job at 20 my life is ruined
This show gets sillier and sillier as you get older

>>274255275
how do you explain constant gaps on your resume? normies won't even hire someone with a single 1 month gap after 10+ years of working

I'm 27 and I've never had a job in my life
I hate my parents for subjecting me to so much abuse and misery but I'm too mentally ill to take care of myself and move out and they're old, dying, and poor (all because of the same shitty and retarded choices that ruined my life) so I have no safety net or any kind of emotional support and only exist to get dragged into their fights and be insulted

I don't know what to fucking do
I don't have a license because my anxiety is so bad so I can't even leave and even if I could I have no idea where to go

>>274255079
Why did they make an anime about me wtf

I was basically forced to work for 2 years without compensation for my government.

I will never forgive them for this, I will "leech" off them as long as I live.

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>>274255535
Very self aware and very full of excuses. I've been you, and I don't like you, nor do I feel sorry for you. What you do is become an adult. You're alive, so abuse or not someone's enabling you, and I can see your grievance on an internet imageboard despite whatever distance we have.
Become comfortable with being uncomfortable.

>>274255490
I stopped giving a shit to be honest because I learned that I will never get into the good positions anyway. You start as the lowest ranked worker and remain there no matter how hard you try. Even when the company was obviously banking on me. Hell in those cases it got worse not better. Because I was essential hell broke loose if I was ill for one day per year while half of my group was faking illnesses 15 days a month, I am not even exaggerating.
My point is that I was a diligent worker in the past and it only got me depressions (I didn't even believe that shit exited before) and burnout. So if I can't get anything but shit positions anyway I might as well enjoy NEETdom whenever I can.

s-shut up

>>274255535
just go for a job anon, in the countryside where you almost don't have to interact with people

i will not improve too much i have to say

>>274255708
what if I told you trying to improve myself or be more positive just gets ruined by own enabler
I tried to clean the bathroom floor and I got yelled at for asking them to take their shoes off before they went in to keep the floor clean
now it's filthy again and I don't even care anymore

>>274255079
i'm already bald like that and i'm only 24. I have a shit job through.

>>274255708
>What you do is become an adult.

this, I bet you zoomies don't even give firm handshakes or look job creators in the eye when applying to be wageslaves

>>274255780
I can't work if I don't drive and I'm too mentally fucked to get a license
I've been trying to get over it and get it done for over 10 years but I have literally negative emotional support from my own family so it's just impossible

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>>274255490
I just fill in the gaps with shit that i made up

>>274255490
How do write a resume if you've been neeting for 10+ years since high school?

>>274255823
I understand, my reply to you wouldn't change. And I understand loss of motivation and hope. Obviously not everything that has transpired in your 27 years, but that story is very familiar. Help isn't coming, wishes aren't coming true just by wishing. It's difficult, but you need independence to some extent if you wanna keep your sanity. I'm gonna suggest overcoming your anxiety Yes it's easier said than done, yes I understand panic attacks, no I don't know you but- A step like that would be major, based on what you're telling me you're either afraid to ask for help with it anymore, or they won't help you. What I'm gonna suggest will be miserable, but if you really want change you'll do it. There are websites (and these are the best I've found) for surveys. Prolific.ac, Cloudresearch, and AmazonMturk. Use these to save money to pay for classes for driving, the permit test, and your license. The driving classes can let you have a car to take your test.

>>274255577
As someone with a job I can tell you one thing for sure: the real leeches are incompetent coworkers, not the NEETs. I have never ending unpaid surplus hours, non-stop stress and have to do the work of three or more fucking people without getting a single extra cent because my coworkers are either never present or they can't even boot a fucking PC but get the same damn payment as me.

So never let people tell you that NEETs are the main issue. It's employed subhumans. And yes most of them are women, especially those younger than 50. Most of the good workers I know are actually also women, but the ratio is like 70:30. Seven out of ten are nothing but part-time baggage with brain damage.

>>274255823
Can't you move out? I doubt that many other countries have the horrific rents my own one has that eats up to 70% of your fulltime job income. That aside I wouldn't clean for people that obviously don't care about cleanness.

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>>274255079
I'm not a neet but I also don't really have any sort of career or prospects in life. Just a shitty wage job for the rest of my life. No chance of retirement. No chance of a house of my own. I really wish I had some form of drive back when I was young and had any sort of idea of what to do with my life. Coasting by fucked me over so hard and I don't think I can ever really recover.

>>274256045
I have no idea how to move out or take care of myself

>>274255079
Thank god I take care of myself to stay healthy, have neetbux, and an apartment.

>>274256149
how do you get NEET bux?

>>274255992
I was going to practice driving with my dad but our relationship is so strained I don't know how to even approach it
every time I try to talk with him I usually just end up disgusted or upset and I go back in my room trying to ignore the reality I live in so I don't fucking snap

>>274256170
Severe mental illness. I’m a schizophrenic that has been in the psych ward multiple times.

>>274256194
I was like that too, even him entering the same room as me would cause an immediate blood boiling reaction. If he is willing, you gotta ask. It'll feel awkward, stressful, and you'll be worrying but if he's willing, go for it. I can't help you, and you probably won't. But I really hope you do.

>>274255823
>I got yelled at for asking them to take their shoes off before they went in to keep the floor clean
Good on you for trying to help out around the house, I'm sorry that your efforts were unappreciated. But if they aren't appreciated then you should try to focus your efforts on yourself.

>>274256091
I feel like parents like this are very common. I knew or know so many that talk down constantly to their kid including my own, I never understood why. I never had panic attacks and all that and it took me decades to realise it but today I notice more and more how at least half of my problems were caused or worsened by that behavior because I hear other people talk about their families and get fucking mindblown when I hear them saying that their parents have praised them for some mundane or something. I could do whatever I wanted and would still be crititized for it and called out. The joke is that it always stroke me as harmless. I thought I never cared. But looking back I realised that I became a massive underachiever and fucked my life over because I don't associate finished tasks with anything positive. It's retarded, but things are much harder to do if you never got positive feedback in your life. The teachers I had at school weren't helping.

>>274256285
mine are like this, but also directly abusive and never respected my privacy or my autonomy
my door still doesn't have a working lock on it and if I tried to fix it myself now I would get into a fistfight with a 70 year old man

>finally realize I'm mentally ill and need real help to function properly
>a lifetime of gaslighting by my abusive parents still makes me feel like I'm "making it up" or I'm just "lazy"
>have no idea how to help myself or truly acknowledge and address my issues to gain independence
I just want my fucking parents to die already so I can escape and never think about anything they say or do again
I can't take this shit anymore

>>274256626
Mine weren't directly abusive but they did the same shit with privacy. I only tried to lock it once and yes it got me into a big fight so I never did it again. I never understood why privacy is a foreign concept to parents. It should be obvious, especially once a kid has reached their teen age. I "solved" this by staying awake till 2am and longer, since parents would always sleep like corpses after 11 PM but it's part of the reason for why my sleep schedule got fucked. I am 30 now and it's still fucked. Once you got used to this it never goes away again. Even having a regular job and forcing yourself to go to bed before midnight doesn't fix it for some reason, the inner clock is still askew.

>>274255079
this happened to my buddy dave

>>274256749
my parents used to barge in my room whenever they wanted, go in there and rearrange things when I was out of the house, and they would physically force themselves in while I tried to hold the door shut with weights or my own body while screaming at me

I am in college right now but it's my 5th year already and I feel so burnt out with everything. Should I just live with my parents and be a NEET?

>>274255708
>so abuse or not someone's enabling you
It tends to be the state, but clearly you weren't abused enough if you can shrug it off like that

>>274256744
The denial of mental illnesses will be our undoing, unironically. I only rich kids that were lucky in that case since their parents are more likely to be not fully retarded. My own relatives were legit autists, actual illiterates, shizos and most of them had such a massive case of ADHD that they weren't even capable of reading, talking, listening or doing anything at all, not even watching tv. Also all of them were at best functioning alcoholics, some of them nonfunctioning ones. And then people wonder why the kids are insane too.

Same here I only understood that I was actually mentally ill in my late 20s. And now I can't really do anything about it. The meds I tried don't do shit. I also realised that therapists don't really understand such issues, they are primed to help people like themselves. All therapists I met so far were women from academic, functioning families and explaining shit to them is a hassle. It's like talking to a princess. Anyway the mental healthcare system in my country is completely useless unless you are a rich girl who wants to talk.

>>274256882
Clearly.

>>274256859
>5th year of college.
Are you close to finishing and getting your degree?

>>274256962
I will graduate 6th year... with a UX design degree which is no longer that valuable nowadays with oversaturation, AI, etc.

>>274256927
therapy hasn't helped me much either, and after being pushed meds and having to do my own research to find out they can permanently ruin your sexual function I don't trust anyone anymore
I don't want to take that shit

>>274255535
Have you tried being less of a little bitch?

>>274255942
computers can freeform write gibberish now, if you want a resume all you have to do is write: "please make me a CV AI-sama" into Bing search and answer a few simple questions, if you get to the stage where you get to talk to a human being explain to them that you're willing to do the menial labor they cannot or don't want to do in return something resembling a publicized average wage for the position. if you're allowed on the road in a motorized vehicle then you can probably get auto approved to move food or people around for the Über company.

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>>274257355
addendum.

>>274257327
yeah because this type of abuse from my parents worked on me all these years so far and didn't just create violent outbursts

>>274255079
I got a temporary job after being a NEET for two years, only to quit after four months and NEET for another nine months. It's no problem though because I WILL sort my life out next year. 2025 is the year, it's the big one. I'll socialise with people and date a girl and learn to drive and pursue a career. I can feel it. It's happening this time. You can feel it too, can't you anon?

>>274255079
>leech off government on mental health retirement (currently pending)
>no stress or sleep disturbances due to having a strict schedule
>infinite time to exercise and eat healthy
>end up more healthy than average wageslave
>ponder philosophy, write, further develop my intelligence
>entertain myself with video games and anime
I don't see the problem

>>274257203
>having to do my own research to find out they can permanently ruin your sexual function I don't trust anyone anymore
That's a fancy way of saying "reading the package leaflet", and yes while antidepressants does kill your sexual function. Are you getting any use of your sexual function without them?

Furthermore you can still find love, happened to a friend of mine

I was thinking about moving to Japan or Taiwan after college. It's cheap in Japan now right? I want to live a peaceful life and never have to work again.

>>274257471
Because you're a liar, filth and a scammer

>>274255079
I'm trying but no fucking company will hire me I just graduated

>>274257472
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8061302/
I'm not fucking castrating myself
masturbating is one of the only things that makes me happy anymore

>>274257623
My man all medicine includes a small paper that tells you about the side effects, a doctor has to tell you about side effects when asked. Plenty of research on the topic, but you didn't even need to do that when you could have just read the leaflet.

>>274255489
Life gets sillier as you get older, and so do your "opportunities".
>>274255490
>how do you explain constant gaps on your resume?
"I had autism for 20 years, but I got better.. Please hire me. And by hire, I mean extend my neetbux. The alternative is that I ruin your business and you're responsible."

>>274257489
If you move to Japan you have to get a job to sponsor your visa, or marry some OL who will take care of you and give you a green card but you'd probably have to do housework at least

>>274257752
I have an aunt that lives there. And family in Taiwan too.

>>274257692
you stupid faggot, the therapist was pushing medication on me, and when I asked about side effects the stupid cunt pulled out her phone and started googling right in front of me
I have no faith in the medical system anymore

I found plenty of online anecdotes that corroborated with this study talking about their sexual function getting completely ruined for their entire life even after just briefly taking the medication which is NOT what the therapist said at all
I'm not taking that fucking risk, I'd unironically rather kill myself than give up my sex drive

>>274257471
Every NEET who I’ve seen that talks like this just jerks off and watches anime all day like the rest of them. For all the infinite time you have, I bet you squander 90% of it.

>>274257782
Yeah you have no faith in the medical system because you never went to a doctor.

>>274257896
I'm literally in therapy because of my doctor
of course it's only a small amount of sessions with someone I'm not even able to pick myself and I got transferred after the first two appointments wasting all of the time and rapport I had already built and being discouraged by them from seeking out any kind of real medical diagnosis
I guess government healthcare is just them pretending to care about you while doing the bare minimum

>>274258019
Then why the fuck is a therapist giving you medicine? A therapist can't give prescriptions and especially not antidepressants. Nobody in your position would mix up a therapist with a psychiatrist
>I guess government healthcare is just them pretending to care about you while doing the bare minimum
And what do you give in return?

>>274257782
Therapist =/= psychiatrist, they don't know shit about medications usually that's not their job
Their job is to try to pinpoint problems you have and get you started on dealing with that shit, not to instantly solve your problems by talking like most people believe

>>274258127
Not destabilize the social environment that he was coerced into. Safety nets exist to prevent crime and dissidence, it's an acknowledgement and a bribe to the people failed by the system to not go out and start burning things down.

>>274258019
>I guess government healthcare is just them pretending to care about you while doing the bare minimum
It's basically this. Most therapists will just tell you that everything is fine that you should take a walk or some shit and learn to enjoy the "little things" no matter how shitty you life is and how much worse than theirs.
It's basically a "professional" trying to tell you that you are healthy until you give in so that they can force you into employment again.

About meds: they aren't poison so I always try them because it doesn't hurt. All of the ones I tried had zero positive effects though and a lot of negative ones so I stopped taking them, but this isn't true for everybody. I know a bunch of people who are much more normal and happier after taking meds. Apparently I am just unlucky.
Don't worry too much about the side effects, they are just mental and vanish within hours so they are gone the next day if you don't take it anymore. But it's a lottery. You might be like me and just test all of them and realise that none of them work.

>>274257529
Not really. My mental is fucked, I am able to function at home in my own routine, obsessed over self-care, can't adapt to demands. I've been in all kinds of treatments and they haven't worked. I'm pretty much in peace with killing myself if/when the money gets cut off. Some kind of schizoid type probably, no delusions/hallucinations, mostly apathetic and anxious.
>>274257878
True mostly, except I actually take care of myself physically and I'm not addicted to porn or substances except caffeine.

>>274257878
you have no conception of how much time and spermatozoa i've squandered inside you're mom. one could build a fortune 500 company with those kinds of resources.

>>274255079
I'm 31 and stupidly quit my last job for 1 year to be a caretaker for a family member. I have an engineering degree and have been applying for 5 months to over 1000 jobs and have barely gotten any interviews, even for technician jobs paying like 20 dollars an hour. Graduated back in 2020, got a job in 2022 after a 2 year gap, worked for a year, and I'm now approaching 2 years of unemployment yet again and literally being forced into a NEET, forever. Even lying and filling the gaps isn't working. Companies are asking for paystubs and fucking 1099s for verification of a job I made up, and I'm not looking to falsify that. None of the HR stacies give a fuck, I had one hang up during a call because she thought I was still working at my old job.

There is basically nothing I can do except work retail and fast food and I'd rather kill myself than do that after attending uni for this shit. I'm ironically in a worse position than a 30 year old loser who's never been to college, because at least they don't have a degree that's expired. Only option now is grad school and I can't afford it. May 2025 be a little kinder for everyone.

>>274258127
my therapist was the one pushing medication on me before I did my own research you mongoloid

>>274258295
did you not see the study I posted that talks about permanent sexual dysfunction from SSRIs being widespread enough to have a name?
I am never, ever, taking that shit

>>274258448
Irrelevant to me because I never had a real sexual drive. Which doesn't make things better mind you. If I had one I could at least masturbate to make things more bearable.

>>274258238
I meant more in the lines of "You can get more help, but only if you put more energy into it and not the bare minimum".
>>274258332
How fucked is it if you can be stable enough to do all the things you said earlier?
>>274258401
But HOW when a therapist can't give medication?

>>274258371
sounds like you've put the effort in anon, just shit luck with employers, may you find what you are looking for in the new year

>>274258582
This is literally me, it's why I refuse to take anything
Not because I'm only ever masturbating to the point of being debilitated, but because I have a really high sex drive and genuinely enjoy it more than anything
I've been like that even since I was young, I'm already miserable enough that I was circumsised against my will, I'm not letting worthless doctors take anything else from me

>>274258591
>anon, you should take meds, they will help you
>I'll set up a call with someone so they prescribe you
then I found out the call isn't even with a real psychiatrist but some random "nurse"
I'm not falling for that shit, I don't trust any kind of medication that fucks with your behavior or brain

>>274258591
People that are socially alienated don't have whatever kind of practical energy you're thinking of. Their energies are net destructive, to themselves if they're dumb, and to others if they're smart.

>>274255863
>give firm handshakes or look job creators in the eye
That's a sign of submission.
You shit 'em in the mouth is what you do.

>>274258689
Yeah it's fucked. As teen I just assumed I am behind since I only got into puberty with 15 too but nah. The closest thing related to sexuality I can feel is attraction towards some odd anime characters every five years or so but that's it. Masturbating would make life more fun. It also influences a lot of other shit. You cannot really find someone to live with with that. Not that I believe I would ever tolerate another person in my apartment, but theoretically. People want to partner with humans that are capable of romantic feelings not autists like me.

So ronery ;_;

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>>274258832
have a misaki

>>274258582
>>274258824
Sex drive is something that needs to be exercised. It's possible you had a weak/repressed sexuality from a young age, and it further diminished from disuse, especially if you've never masturbated much. If you disregard the need to feel aroused and simply go out of your way to fap (or make periodic attempts to), then it could come back. Being somewhat frigid is a lot better to come back from than being so dopamine fried that normal sexual activities just don't feel good anymore.

>>274258735
You should report both that therapist and nurse, then go talk to a psychiatry. You don't want antidepressants? Then take some Benzodiazepine
>>274258759
I know, I work them daily. So what's your issue that holds you back, an social phobia?

>>274259312
You work with socially maladjusted people daily, and you didn't know that telling one to just stop being maladjusted is a waste of time?

>>274259445
I know it's a waste of time, but I'm calling you out because your initial post made you sound far too stable. How can't I when you describe yourself as a leech?

>>274258759
I think of my/the big issues is that you never learned to socialize and basically didn't learn anything at all as a kid, partly because I was isolated and alone all day. I mean I know how to do technical things, even better than most others and I can think logically. But by the time was 15 my social skills were that of a four year old because I didn't know shit. I didn't even understood the concepts of gifts which really fucked me in the ass during some xmas event in my school class where I was supposed to give gift to someone and didn't understand what a gift should be. That and a lot of other shit like not getting cues, misunderstanding and being misunderstood and so on.

The problem that everybody assumes you already completed the skill set by the time you are an adult. But you don't. It's worse when you are smart or normally intelligent because then people will assume that you do it on purpose because "you are smart, you know what you do, you what I meant". But since everybody assumes that you learned it nobody will help and teach you, they will just assume you were evil which alienates you further. I am 30 now and STILL learning social skills I should have had when I was 12.

>>274259628
People self-identify with and then proceed to be dragged down by stereotypes within their social environment all the time. How do you not know that? Furthermore, I do believe I've indicated in my posts, albeit implicitly, that I'm not the same person being discussed. With how unprofessional and hostile you're being, I have to doubt the authenticity of your self-proclaimed credentials.

>>274258591
>How fucked is it if you can be stable enough to do all the things you said earlier?
There are about 2 kinds of NEET. Most people suffer from executive dysfunction, addictions etc. They may have grown up in shitty conditions, or get addicted to something and fall off the rails or just fail to follow-up at a point of life. They lose momentum in a vicious cycle and can't get it back, and it leads to the common side effects associated with depression. When you fail to get what you want, you stop wanting it, but once back on track, you get the wants back. Satou was pretty much like this too, he was mostly just a normal guy. Not to minimize this condition or anything. For many people it's impossible to get on their feet on their own and the available support crumbs are not enough.

The other type is people (like me) with ok skills and capability, but their entire conception about life is malformed. For me it was probably because of religion, but it could be various kind of lack of normal upbringing. They often see things differently and just aren't stimulated by normal life and societal structures. Some can fake it with willpower but for some it's not enough to stay motivated so they just forfeit life. Kids growing up in modern brainwash are going to have a LOT of problems like this.

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>>274255079
>24 going on 25
>CS degree
>2 years out of college, no experience
>need a job but at this point my only hope might be something really shitty
>remain a neet because of the shame of having wasted years of my life for a degree I wouldn't even be using

>>274260197
continued: Hikikomorism caused by both reasons lead to additional common symptoms (depression, addiction etc.) that increase by living that lifestyle and disappear when you stop being a hikikomori, and those shouldn't be confused with the root cause that lead you to hikikomorism, which could be things like living with abusive people, a shock from a big life event, or having grown fucked up in the head. The root cause may still be present or it may have already gone away.

>>274255535
Perhaps you should have Expanded your Horizons gibbs

>>274255079
you are only what you make of yourself.
if you make nothing of yourself, that's all you'll ever be.

>>274255275
>steals 90% of of lifetime.
you worked 21.6 hours a day?!

>>274255535
have you tried doing anything except making excuses and expecting everything to be magically fixed?

>>274260660
You didn't get an internship?

I'm too scared to even drop a CV. Social anxiety is a bitch.

>>274255079
Are normies really okay with 80% of their life disappearing to work and commute?

Who even cares? The aliens are gonna kill us all within the next decade.

>>274260693
>The root cause may still be present or it may have already gone away.
Speaking from 20 years of professional lurking experience, the root cause for most lifelong hikki anons is undiagnosed autism, PTSD, generalized anxiety disorder or schizoid personality disorder, roughly in that order of prevalence.

Staying indoors all day and doing nothing tends to cause depression and/or addictions on top of that, but this anon's therapist >>274258295 was unironically half right. The trick is to take walks, enjoy the little things and commit to creative hobbies, AFTER you get on disability benefits so you can afford to stop basing your self-image on the uninformed opinions of the society that caused your problems.
Pills and therapy don't do shit for most of these conditions, and the assumption that you should be cured after following the prescribed steps or you're not trying hard enough often makes the self-loathing worse.

>>274261121
Very unlikely there are alien civilizations in this galaxy.

>>274261181
Ayy hands typed this post

>>274261181
There are aliens on this very planet. Whether they could as civilized is another matter.

>>274260197
God I feel this so much. Nobody I knew was religions but I am similar in that regard. The shit I should work for doesn't trigger any stimuli in me because I don't care about it. Normal people work because they 1. deeply desire something that is 2. achievable by normal means. Like an own apartment and a partner. Even where I live you could buy an apartment if you share the costs and both of you are working hard. So there is this or social status shit that work as incitement for others but not me. I absolutely cannot give a shit about social ladder bullshit and attention and all that.

This is the main stimulant for normal people: attention, recognition, validation and therefore status. And I just don't care. Maybe because I never experienced it, maybe because it never meant shit in my family and my parent's isolated, lonely, low worker class environment, I don't know. But because of this I feel impotent in my daily life. Once you realise how 90% of everything other people do and call good is only done for this one social goal you realise why you are so different. Therapists will just tell you to "learn" to enjoy it but it's a worldview problem, I cannot artificially attribute meaning to something that doesn't mean anything to me. It's like telling you to "learn" to enjoy eating something of which you hate the taste of. Will won't change your tastebuds or brain chemistry.

>>274258295
>>274258448
>>274258689
>meds
You should always look up how they take effect and what side effects they have. Meds are meds and not just general over the counter products from the super market because their negative effects can be worse than the positive effect. You simply have to make an informed decisions when it's right to use them (and what dose for how long), which is normally what a doctor's job is supposed to be about.

I'm in college right now but I still feel like I will become a NEET after. I'm not motivated, I don't have drive, I don't like my major that much, and I'm getting sick of people. Should I just become a NEET? My family has some money and I could probably move to Asia for a few years and just live off of that.

>>274260921
No but 8h + 1h forced "break" that was just me sitting there and assholes controlling what I do (no food there and I don't have the money to order from a restaurant every day) + 2h of commute per day which is 11h altogether and because of maybe depressions, some undiagnosed illness or general tiredness I have to sleep for 10h or else I will be sleepy all day and won't be able to focus in a job that bores me. In the end it's literally 21h and I feel empty and I am too tired to do anything during my few hours of free time and spent most of my saturdays with sleep. It's only 1 1/2 days of "life" per week and I simply fail to see how death would be so much worse than that. Especially when you realise that this horror will continue for almost all of your damn life and probably even the rest of it if you die before 67.

>>274255470
And yet nobody is marching on Wall Street or taking out oligarchs on the street. Instead they blame "other" people.

>>274259637
It's a good thing that you have such a clear idea of what might be going on. It means you're lucid and have put a lot of effort into identifying the problem. I think a truly "autistic" person wouldn't even understand what it means to be autistic, how or why they're different from other people, which thus has a much worse prospect for improvement.

It's also a good thing you've avoided taking drugs. Drugs are not going to create a social skillset that you grew up without. Their main purpose is to give a physical solution to immediate emotional, compulsive, obsessive, and whatever other form of mental distress that there simply is not a non-physical solution to.

Social skills, like any other skills, are ultimately a form of personal capital. Like any form of capital, some people have a lot of it, some people have very little of it. You can make an effort to gather social skills over time, but let me ask you something: Do you even need to? Based on earlier posts, it sounds like you believe that because you grew up with poor social skills, your prospects for success are poor. It sounds like a complex, stemming from traumas of being shamed over your socialization (or lack thereof) as a child, and you were helpless at that time. Perhaps a lot of people have told you that if you don't have social skills, you will struggle in life. These things aren't necessarily true. Social skills are important for success, only if you intend to leverage social skills to achieve success, which is tricky if you have poor social skills To put it bluntly, as long as you can sustainably get enough money to take care of yourself, then it doesn't matter if people like you or not unless, of course, you specifically want to go the extra mile to get people to like you.

>>274261148
pills and therapy are only supposed to help you get started on fixing your shit, you're supposed to do the hard work on changing yourself on your own.
There's no magic answer or solution, you just have to start trying, no matter how hard or scary it might seem
If you're a schizo tho you should be taking your meds and listening to your therapist, you're just mentally fucked beyond normalfag anxiety

>>274261368
You need a longer term plan, like welfare, or be ready to have to crawl back to work hungry and homeless like in NHK or be ready to kill yourself. Do you hate your life THAT much?
If you want to force yourself into a drastic change of pace to find yourself or something I guess that works but there are probably better and worse ways to go about it.

>multiple stemfags out of work ITT
>everyone in my (very big) city is complaining about zero jobs in retail, with janitor positions requiring multiple interviews
what the fuck is happening
is there any field currently in demand right now?

>>274261481
Yeah always. Half of my country are wealthy fags that don't give a shit because they've inherited 10 apartments from their parents anyway. 10% are CEOs and other rich people that employ others and usually treat them like shit. The other 40% are the workers everybody is looking down onto. The problem with the 40% is that they're poor and very diverse. It's mostly lonely people/singles without money and without relatives, immigrants from like 150 different countries (many whites too but from different cultures) who often also have no relatives here, mentally ills that somehow work without killing themselves etc. Most of these people are afraid of losing the job if they protest, since they need the money to exist. And the media tries to stir up hatred against and among them. Labour workers are stigmatized as bad, loners are bad, immigrants are bad (unless they are rich), NEETs are bad, mentally ills are bad. The non-rich are blamed for all the shit that like astronomic rents, low wages and such that are literally caused by the rich.

They make a huge deal if a poor cleaner grandma steals potatoes while our current leader is a cum-ex boss, abuser of prisoners and scammer that costed our country billions. People even know. But you can't do anything about it. Politicians stopped caring about protests, they just wait till the protests are gone and they will always eventually cease because poor people can't stay away from work for long, unlike the fags in our government and rich landlord kids. The only thing that might work is literal terrorism by now.

>>274261545
>I think a truly "autistic" person wouldn't even understand what it means to be autistic, how or why they're different from other people
NTA, but as a diagnosed autist who knows multiple other people on the spectrum, this couldn't be further from the truth. Many high functioning autists develop secondary issues like social anxiety, avoidant coping strategies and depression precisely because they're hyper-aware of how they're different and how other people perceive them. They understand in an abstract sense how they "should" act to fit in, but they can't act on that understanding because the "correct" behavior doesn't come out under pressure and no amount of practice is enough to rewire their brains.

The part about social skills and self-esteem is true, though. It's a vicious cycle, and the only way to escape it is to find a source of self-esteem that doesn't depend on other people's approval.

>>274261876
>social anxiety, avoidant coping strategies and depression precisely because they're hyper-aware of how they're different and how other people perceive them
These are ADHD symptoms not autism, they also have trouble socially.

>>274261899
They're secondary symptoms of many different disorders, including autism and ADHD.

>>274259637
>>274261545
Basically, I think you're putting the cart before the horse. You mentioned wanting to escape your parents. I think if they are still a major part of your life, especially if you are dependent on them, then they are likely a main source of your problem. Quite simply, it's hard not to be concerned about what other people think about you if you are dependent on them. People you are dependent on and people that can threaten you are the only times when, unavoidably, social opinion can harm you.

My suggestion wouldn't be trying to fix your social skills to become independent, it would be seeking becoming independent, so that your relationship with social skills can start to improve. As long as you can form an even modest form of disconnection from the people that can judge you, the burden of your mental trauma will start to decrease and you'll be less inhibited by your weaknesses. That isn't to say new difficulties won't appear, but IMO it's worth it getting out of a hole you've been stuck in for a lifetime, even if you have to climb out of a new hole as a result.

>>274255079
I like how there was a phase with anime warning neets. But in the end, the warning went unheeded and here we are.

>>274261029
No.

>>274256927
>they are primed to help people like themselves
I think that's the "problem" with NHKs and Evas and the like. They provide the sort of help that is useful for low conscientiousness high neuroticism types always ruminating on the past or worrying about the future, rather than putting in any positive effort in the present, but not for those who are severely psychologically damaged. The cases where "your life isn't even that bad, stop bitching and start acting" is an actually useful advice.
Suppose this is why those stories can summon so much vitriol. Both from mentally ill who feel like the their issues run deeper than a simple anxious mentality, as well as from self-assured anons who see such advice as self-evidently obvious.

>>274261876
>high functioning autists
Diverging from intended social conditioning is not a mental illness.
>develop secondary issues like social anxiety, avoidant coping strategies and depression precisely because they're hyper-aware of how they're different and how other people perceive them
This is usually a consequence of being treated like shit for diverging from social conditioning. Actual autism is, by definition, low functioning. Anything else is weird localized authoritarianism BS.

>>274261545
Thanks anon. And yeah, I don't intend to become normal to put it that way, for the reasons you mentioned. And also for what >>274261876 already said. You can't rewire the brain, you can only artificially disguise yourself but it costs a lot of energy since you have to be hyper-aware of every word you say and everything you do. There are thankfully still some other 30yo loners and a few random old men I know that are easy to talk to, maybe because their skills aren't much better than mine despite (probably) not being spergs.

Drugs are strange. I am almost completely unaffected of shit happening in real life. I feel basically no pain, caffeine and other shit does nothing, psycho meds don't have any effects and so on. I live in a metropolis of drugs so it would be easy to get everything by just leaving my house. But I assume that nothing would work on me or at least not the way it should. Out of interest (and because I assume I wouldn't get addicted anyway) I tried a few once but they did nothing. At least nothing I noticed. I didn't intend to take them regularly anyway I was curious. Smoking hookah does nothing either. Technically not much into smoking, but I do that once a month because it's nice hanging out with friends till midnight and bars are too noisy and not nearly as comfy. Anyway, it's weird. I feel too far removed from reality. I would almost call it a permanent derealization. But not even doctors know that term or they do but don't know what to do. It's said, but therapist are focused on the common issues and are at loss if they encounter an actual shizo for once.

>>274261148
It never worked for me, I tried a lot for a long time. Walks are a good example because they usually actively annoy me because I am bored while walking. Hobbies is the right answer but I have this ADHD problem where I might not care about anything and not enjoy anything for a while no matter how I do it and then, all of a sudden, I watch or read something and get completely obsessed with something. Do nothing else in my free time anymore, just this. Like if it's a series I love for example I will literally spend all day thinking about it and drawing for it and be fulfilled. But here is the thing, I cannot choose such hyperfixations myself or make them happen because I want.

I guess it's a bit like falling in love or enjoying a movie. You cannot enjoy something you don't enjoy just because you tell yourself to enjoy it. This is why I consider those therapists stupid. Watch a boring ass movie with bad writing and try to love it. It will never happen no matter how hard to try to brainwash yourself.

>>274261675
AI slop and ATS clogging up the system. Companies were very fast to replace people that scan resumes with AI keyword acceptance and rejection systems and some of them have 70% or higher rejection rates because a resume doesn't have a specific set of keywords.

>>274263082
Resumes are always shit anyway in my country you are WAY more likely to be chosen if your resume says you were doing volunteer work as young adult, but it's a thing that is basically 100% only done by kids of wealthy parents because poor people can't work a full year for free, even if they would want to help. Meaning that it's indirectly an issue about income. Rich people are more likely to get a job that will make them richer. Same with hobbies and former jobs. I know fags that get every job under the sun even without fulfilling ANY necessary conditions just because their parents let them work in their own company as a teenager. They did jackshit there, but it was technically a high position so now they can brag with being a former upper echelon or some shit.

That aside, companies also love volunteer work because it means you are willing to work for free, it's a red flag but all of them are like that.

>>274261675
Pedro and Abdullah do the low tier jobs while Chang and Pajeet do the high tier jobs, and there is no UBI to make up for this.

>>274262839
Both the fact that there are people you get along with and the fact that you can easily converse about your issues online suggest that your social skills are just developed in a different direction, not that they don't exist. In other words, you're not socially inept, you're socially alienated, or possibly even oppressed. In that case, the feeling of unreality would come from the divergence between the way you view the world and the way you are told to view the world by others.

>>274261876
As a diagnosed autistic I found a measure of peace after investigating Eastern religion, particularly Buddhism.
I simply let go.

>>274260660
Bro... I graduated with a CS degree about 7 years ago, and I can't get a software dev/ web deb job. I'm basically wageslaving away at a Amazon warehouse working graveyard shift.

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Apply for jobs with a fake degree, fake credentials and fake references (names, new emails, etc). The worst that can possibility happen is they just reject your application. Say you did get hired and they find out later, they simply let you go with your work experience and can't fire you because they messed up verifying you. Fun fact: The HR guy for my remote job didn't even check my references, just gave me a link to send to the references myself to fill out a survey about me. They were sent to my fake email accounts. What I'm saying is HR is just as fake as anyone else.

>>274263212
nah it's because brown people like this guy said >>274263386

>>274264116
I legit thought of this too. So far I was insecure because I know that a bunch of bosses called former employers of mine to ask about me and I hate that thought. But I guess you can always lie by naming huge corporations or just hope they won't do it.

>>274255489
the creator is still a NEET, I doubt having one novel written; even with one anime season and a manga is much money. he's like mid 40's now.

>>274257397
just all lies.

>>274259637
>I didn't even understood the concepts of gifts
bluepill me on gifts; in my preteen and early teens years I feel as though I spent a lot of time and energy picking out gifts for other people, even going as far as to organize outings and sometimes though sporadically gifting classmates with pens and sweets. Looking back I feel as though I generally got less out of it then if I'd just spent the money on myself and the others had bought their own things, the worst feeling is when you spend a bunch of time picking out a gift for someone and they end up tossing or regifting it, the second worst is when they end up keeping it tucked away somewhere out of obligation.

>>274261121
The illegal aliens? They're not going to kill you they're just going to replace you because they are fit and lean, hardened and hard working while you're a fat American who does nothing but sit in a car all day and eat burgers, and donuts and fries. Oh god I wish it were me. no, it's going to be me! Viva la Mexico.

>>274261368
If i were in your position i'd probably try academia for a few years, and then maybe burn out and go live in a woods where I'd make educational Youtube videos or write books on the political trends and destiny of a society I have little to do with.

>>274261481
you say that ironically in the knowledge that there were tent camps and near permanent demonstrations by stock exchanges during the aftermath of the 2008 banking crisis. and a CEO got shot in New York not long ago for being the CEO of a greedy insurance company, of course.

>>274261675
in classical economics there is a maxim: "supply creates its own demand." extrapolated to life: If you become good at something, anything really, then other people will take notice and take advantage of that to further your their own interests. All one has to do is live long enough for other people to take notice.

>Work on my own
>Have my own house
>No mental illness
>Good love life
I just need to work on my health and I'm set.

>>274264621
Occupy Movement was disbanded and that CEO was just another faceless cog in the machine. You attack the system and not the man it puppets, and you've made a much bigger impact.

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>>274255535
I've had several jobs, but I don't even know if I feel superior to or envy you for not joining the rat race. Probably because I've only ever done bottom level dogshit that pajeets and teenagers can do.

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Blooooooooog. I don't care about your life.

>>274265128
You really want to post wojaks without posting wojaks eh?

>>274256749
>big fight
I think what really made me grow up was to stop caring what they think and say what I really think no matter what they feel.
Yes, conflicts are what really made you grow.
I'm so much happier now.
It's really nice to watch anime and listen to anime songs in open.

>>274265233
NO it's not what i did. I secretly wanted you to ask about the problems in my life. I got balls cancer you know, i think, my ball hurts.

>>274265340
Oooh Marone!

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>>274265340
Oh okay my bad.
You feel any lumps down there? If not then just wait for it to go away

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>>274265388
Sure got the testicle lump. Lumps in my armpits too. Working on my liver and kidneys next, got diabetes for sure, lungs are fucked so that's taken care of. It's part of my punishment plan for failing to be a cool guy, no life for you bucko. I'll have that chocolate milk though.

I really need to get an internship in the summer fuck

>>274261675
The nuts who control STEM hiring hate white men

>>274257623
For me, masturbating is more like a chore. Like brushing teeth or washing clothes.
But curiously, despite my disdain for sexual pleasure, I have been on fluoxetine, now on Zoloft plus other medications and none ever caused me any problems with my libido or dick

>"work is hell and I want to quit/retire, people are the devil and there's no light at the end of the tunnel"
>"you should get a job and become a productive member of society you useless scumbag"

>>274256749
>Even having a regular job and forcing yourself to go to bed before midnight doesn't fix it for some reason
As someone who had this happen as well, I think it's just habits. The best way to tell is to make some huge change of scene like take a vacation or go camping, so you have nothing familiar from your normal life or activities around. Most likely you will become normal for that period.
Of course when you return the habits will come back. But you'll know whether they're habits or innate by then. Doesn't mean it's easy to fix. I think a lot of dysfunction is just very sticky habits like this, not all but most.

Idk, i'm a NEET and i have a lot of friends, go out every week, have fun. I'm 28 and been a NEET since high school. It's really not that bad, the anxiety as to what i'm going to do after my parents pass away is troubling but i think i'll figure something out. Or i won't, in which case i'll just kill myself, but it will have been a pretty good run

>>274255490
>normies won't even hire someone with a single 1 month gap after 10+ years of working
have you seen the us labor market, you could be in jail for a decade and still get $30 an hour as a bus driver in some cities
now, getting a "desirable" job with gaps in your resume is a lot harder

>>274261876
>>274261545
I don't fucking care about your reddit-spaced wall of text posts talking about autism and "social skills" and "self-improvement".
An autist is a retard that flaps his hands when he's excited, panics when he hears very loud noises, can't socialize, etc
No such thing as "mild autism" or the other variations exist. Can't you see it's made up shit by americans?

>>274255490
Dead end jobs will hire anyone.

>>274258371
Trust me, a 2 year break isn't unworkable not like a 6 year break

>>274261675
in my city, all the low wage jobs are hiring

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>>274255535
Left the house at 24 with only ~$200 and bicycle. If you're not a druggie, you will make it. That was about 10 years ago. It was tough, I wont lie. I am netting ~$160K USD in 2024. Just know that some loser managed to drag himself out of rock bottom, and you can too. 1st step: Out the door and don't come back.

>>274255323
My parents finished paying off theirs ~5 years ago. They're letting it go to pests, from flies to termites, and refusing to take care of themselves, but if I push them...

>>274265966
Latino here. Nope, it's just plain-old nepotism. My old boss made someone who never finished college practically her own boss just 'cause he lost thousands investing in crypto. It made us furious. To this day, that has been the only unemployment claim I've won.

>>274267857
>>274268107
Not here at all. With the exception of fast-food restaurants from COVID to just about 2022, all they do is post fake job listings online like all other companies, or it's something unique here. One HR Manager in particular, Mary Perez (Burlington), sent me a very cocky e-mail proudly proclaiming this, saying it's just for people to stay interested, along with a legally-threatening footer prohibiting redistribution of the message. In comparison, my ISP-hiring success rate has been 50%, although there are only 3 (or 2.5) real ISPs here. In a serious, mature working environment, the most valued certs you can get are the CCNA and whatever Fortinet or Mikrotik ones you can find.

>>274268603
Just let him complain about being white.

>>274268258
What's your story?

>>274255079
I look like that and I'm in my late 20s

>>274255079
RMT is thriving and will never die

>>274256087
>Coasting by fucked me over so hard
Elaborate more on this.
Is coasting by your definition someone who does bare minimum work and didn’t bother to remember faces and names? Does scrolling the net at work browsing dumb shit counts as coasting? When you arrive at home and did nothing except dinner and shower and scroll youtube again, is that coasting?

>>274257005
Work in game studios? Get a government job?

>>274257005
>go for meme degree
>*surprised pikachu face* wow it's useless
Who could've seen it coming?

Getting a job is not the answer.
Sure it's a relief to not have to rely on someone else to support you but it's just not the answer. This is confused by the other type of NEET who is just a normie going through a rough patch. They bounce back, we don't
Ultimately NEETs like me are meant to live an aristocratic lifestyle. We will never be able to compete with the bugmen who live to work. Forging our own path is the only way, or the rope.

>>274269826
workshy people used to get gassed in concentration camps

>>274269847
i bet the normie prisoners would tell the guards which ones weren't pulling their weight

>>274255079
Losers and normies end up working the same shitty jobs. I'd rather be a loser that lives at home and only have to pay half of everything for now. I don't envy any of my normalfag coworkers.

...this entire thread has nothing to do with anime and is blogposting.

>>274255079
Wife's brother is like that. Man in his late 30s who's totally dependent on his parents. Except that his parents divorced long time ago, so he leeched from his mom while trashing the house. His mom couldn't handle it and died a year ago. Now he has no income, no job, no education, no experience in anything, lazy as hell, physically weak, bad health and entitled as fuck. My wife hates him of course, his father blocked all contacts with him and he's going to fail his deadline to find a job in next 2 months.
>>274262414
Remember Kaiji? Message there was much stronger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGL1x40p46s

>>274270091
Welcome to the NHK threads

>>274270095
muh kaiji

>>274269826
>Forging our own path is the only way
you are too stupid and lazy to do that.
>or the rope.
the greatest thing you eaters could ever accomplish and you are too cowardly to do even that.

How do I get an actual diagnosis for mental problems instead of wasting my time in therapy?
Is it just not possible if I'm on government healthcare? Is it even worth chasing an official diagnosis? I don't know what it would do for me when I'm so familiar with all my problems and how they're categorized already
part of me is still broken from years of my parents abusive gaslighting just telling me I'm lazy or that there's nothing wrong with me when they're clearly fucking is, but I'm terrified of that being validated somehow

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>>274255079
threadly reminder that this motherfucker was like 5'10'', living on easy mode in his country

>>274268258
I'm not capable enough for that, and I'm too attached to the things I own to just leave it all behind

>>274270095
>and he's going to fail his deadline to find a job in next 2 months.
deadline by who? you sound gleeful anon

normgroids are so viciously evil it never fails to surprise me

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As usual, people miss the big points of Welcome to the NHK

Yamazaki's story: it's okay to chase your dreams, but at some point, you gotta cut your losses. A good family will always be there as your safety net when things don't work out.

Satou: Get a fucking job. Sulking eternally isn't going to solve anything. Don't actually expect a cute girl to come and fix everything for you. Mom cutting the allowance to 50% did more to help Satou get his shit together than any of Misaki's "therapy"

>>274272495
By me of course. He was given more than enough time to fix his shit.
>>274272513
> Mom cutting the allowance to 50% did more to help Satou get his shit together than any of Misaki's "therapy"
That's the best way to deal with hikkies.

>>274272307
>just telling me I'm lazy
they are probably right, except you are also probably a pussy.

>>274272513
>A good family will always be there as your safety net
things said by the truly privileged

>>274268258
>I am netting ~$160K USD in 2024
at least try to make it believable anon

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>>274255079
>>274255232
I think about this show every day.

>>274272729
janny = fag

>>274272678
>things said by the truly privileged
Cope
>>274272729
This anime wouldn't exist if the characters just went to a psychologist, and promptly got told to see a psychiatrist and get meds

>>274255490
Just expand the work around them to fill in the gap. Nobody is going to bother checking every work position or reference.

>>274255490
>normies won't even hire someone with a single 1 month gap after 10+ years of working
I got a job with a month gap and less than 5 years working, this year. what do you have 10+ years work experience in, or are you regurgitating someone else's anecdote?

>>274255079
Fuck you, seeing that once this month was more than enough.

>>274272791
>he fell for the shrink meme
ngmi

>>274255535
I got my first job at 28. After 6 years I am nowhere well-off because I live in a shithole country but still earning above what the average person earns.
Also stop overestimating your mental illness, normies are just as mentally ill, they just suck it up and go out to make the money needed for their survival. Fake it till you make it.

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>>274255079
>aren't you lonely, purin~?

>>274255079
I'm tired of all the retarded NEETs who failed to understand the quintessential message of NHK, one of the few anime in history that gave the objectively correct FINAL SOLUTION to NEETism

where is my state assigned virgin gf
no pussy no work

>>274273983
I liked Eden of the East's approach, but what if we just sank the cargo ships?

>>274273649
I have to get a driver's license first and my anxiety is so bad I don't know how to overcome it

>>274274379
what have you tried?

>>274273983
what, that it's the fault of the people who enable them?

>>274274417
being in a car with a stranger being judged is literally a nightmare scenario for me, I already physically shake just doing things like talking to cashiers and I avoid it at all costs because it makes me so deathly uncomfortable
I keep trying to psyche myself up and make myself just go do it but I can't fucking deal with it
I don't have anyone to emotionally support me, I'm just ridiculed, I don't know how it's possible for me to overcome

>>274273983
That being?

>>274274613
TOTAL NEET DEATH

>>274257471
Lets be real all you do is masturbate all day

How do you move out?
Satou is better off than me

>>274274600
you're just not ridiculed enough
bullying builds character, you just need more exposure to uncomfortable situations to man up

>>274274753
I hope you never have kids and absolutely ruin their lives with your mentality like mine did

>>274269406
Pretty much all of those, yeah. I spent my whole life taking the easy route and I've never applied myself to anything. I've tried countless times to break some of those bad habits and improve on them a bit but I always end up falling back and never making any progress.

What is it with neet with entitlement? Is it because of the social status they were raised?

>>274270095
Do you like and enjoy the company of the rest of your in-laws, if you don't please reconsider your relationship you're setting yourself up for a failed marriage.

>>274272513
Not everyone has relatives with a $1.000.000 company and a bunch of private land in the boonies, to fall back on. And Satou was already buck broken and ready to pick up a minimum wage job with no future prospects, if not for the religious nut job doornockers coming and asking after their tithe.

>>274272682
160k net probably means he got a mortgage on a house and paid off that amount in 10 years. Which is a lot more realistic than all the anons in the adv threads who say they rake in 100k+ per year.

>>274273548
shrinks often aren't directly paid for by their patients, they are paid for by "concerned" employers or relatives; the whole media epoch about Britney Spears's father controlling all her wealth, controlling her life and keeping her drugged up and docile in between the preformances where she made him his money was one of the saddest ever.

>>274256087
>i wish i worked more in the past (which is over) so that I didn't have to work as hard now.
same

>>274274600
so you've done literally nothing and you are all out of ideas?
that's wild.

>>274275071
>just get up and walk when you have no legs
you truly do not understand mental illness

>>274275103
just pull yourself up by your bootstraps lol

>>274255490
>"Can you explain this gap in your resume?"
>"Unfortunately, I cannot disclose information about that, I signed an NDA, and surely you wouldn't hire someone who would to breach such a contract, right?"

It's easy.

>>274255079
>all these mentally ill people forced by bad circumstances to live with abusive parents
Meanwhile I was getting NEETbux for being my mother's live-in carer for the past few years, until my laziness and ignorance made her suffer and die. Now I have to do every single thing I can to distract myself from my guilt and how much I want to join her.

>>274275103
>I need everything given to me, if they give me enough stuff maybe I'll let them stop giving me stuff for free!
why would anyone believe in you? you aren't willing to do anything for yourself, why would anyone waste their time doing something for you?

I never watched this series past the first episode, but this dude literally had voices inside his head talking to him.

People who think NEETs of this level can magically fix themselves by not being "lazy" aren't able to comprehend mental illness

Getting up and going to work isn't gonna stop the wall demons from talking to them, and it's better for everyone they stay out of society, because one bad day at work might cause them to snap and go on a killing spree.

>>274275343
if they are that dangerous we should cull them for the safety of worthwhile people. why should society be held hostage by these wastes?

>>274272791
Having a decent family, or a family at all, is a privilege you stupid fucking nigger

>>274275458
The government puts tax money into far dumber shit.

>>274275596
the cope is that you have to be privileged to be anything but a loser. people with literally nothing have made something of themselves, survived hardships your soft hands could never imagine, and contributed unimaginable prosperity to humanity. But they were people with at least an iota of self-discipline.

>>274273983
"Once your parents stop giving you money, get a job"?

>>274255079
The original author just wrote about his life.

>>274275343
>this dude literally had voices inside his head talking to him
That's just a representation of his trips from his psychedelic use (which the anime cuts out), he isn't schizophrenic.

>>274275664
The " cope"is a strawman you conjured out of thin air because nobody, not even the person you were originally replying to, ever expressed such a simplistic view

>>274255535
We chose you to make it. These posts are our hands pushing you out. Go. One step at a time boy

>>274275664
>people with literally nothing have made something of themselves
litterally who? Every succesful person I've met in person or have seen on the television hasn't been shy about acknowledging all the people who helped them get to where they are. empirically, the only people who downplay the contributions of others in their succes are overcompensating nepobabies.

>/a/ is a bunch of losers
Thanks, I didnt want this reminder.

>>274275759
the people whining itt just want everything handed to them and have and do not intend to do or try anything to improve themselves or their situation.

>>274255823
what if you made more excuses?
damn, that's crazy. what's your next layer of excuses?

>>274260197
Christianity is good and important but the way is taught is absolutely horrible
It should be found by yourself later in life not imposed on children
>>274261317
You can also do things because you have to do them regardless of wanting status out of it
You do the work that is in front of you because thats why you exist. And thats there is to that.
I also dont give a single shit about status but I have responsibilities and Ill do them no matter what because: thats what you do and thats motivation enough, we are humans not animals. Choose to behave in the correct way.

>>274275198
asmongold?

>>274276685
You can either prove that by pointing out where people asked to be handed free shit or quit trying to hawk the old bootstraps meme

>>274275103
But I understand excuses.

>>274276942
So true. Sick and tired of the blind demanding more books in Braille and making us all work harder for their benefit. All you hear is excuses from these people on why they cant just function like the rest of us

>>274276748
Humans are just animals that are self-conscious.

>>274276851
sure here:
>I've tried nothing and I'm out of ideas!
>>274274600
here:
>I should get handouts for nothing!
>>274269826
>Ultimately NEETs like me are meant to live an aristocratic lifestyle.
>what? improve myself?! all I want to do is stare into screens until I die!!!1!!1!1
>>274269406
>who cares I'll just leech until I kill myself!
>>274267419
>I don't want to do a low end job and refuse to work as hard as Asians, so give me money for no reason!
>>274263386
that's just the choices examples later half of the thread. I skipped the guy that was so lazy he murdered his mom and should probably kill himself.

>>274276942
Wow you're so right and clever and decent and hardworking, there's precious few people like you on this board thank you for improving the overall quality of posts by posting.

If I don't manage to switch jobs before 2026, I will probably lose it and attack someone.

>>274255942
>"Freelance"

>>274260660
>need a job but at this point my only hope might be something really shitty
>remain a neet because of the shame of having wasted years of my life for a degree I wouldn't even be using
At least liberal arts graduates are sensible enough to realize Starbucks barista is better than neetdom

>wageslaving is better than neetdom
this is what wagecucks actually believe

>>274278514
t. going extinct

>>274274613
THE HUNGER

>>274274600
you can just take benzos to easily pass that driving shiet, for cashiers you can drink some vodka before going shopping (obviously you'll have to buy it first but you get the idea), if you're afraid of working you can just go to prison for free housing + food

>>274264171
Most companies don't really call former employees.

Thing is, if you're applying for any actual job that isn't minimum wage or that can be done by untrained migrants, they will absolutely sniff out your bullshit during the interview process.
And if you're applying for some low-tier wagie job, then they don't give a fuck about your prior experience and is just a formality

>>274278514
After neeting for so long that I've exhausted all my entertainment, yeah I would rather wageslave. Maybe if modern 4chan wasn't so shit I wouldn't feel that way

>>274275179
This doesn't actually work, yonow. They know you're bsing them.

>>274268258
Your fake story isn't inspiring anyone retard. People with actual work experience and degrees can't get good jobs anymore, no one's hiring a NEET bum for anything more than minimum wage.

>>274255535
You're fucked. Try book a therapy session and pray they can fix you. On your own you don't stand a chance.

thoughts on the Uncle Remus method of neetbuxxing?

>>274277336
Given the same circumstances, you could have ended up like any of them. It's easy when you had everything at your hand.

>>274279515
I prefer Uncle Ruckus's method - WORK HARD, just like a white man should

>>274255489
>ahhhh I don't have a job at 20 my life is ruined
This unironically

>>274256087
You’re literally me. I’m 21, living with parents, and have just been working part time for my city for almost 3 years while in college but I still haven’t had the “switch” turn on that lets me know what specific career I want. I’ve never had a specific set of “skills” that people figure out either. I’ve just been coasting along on good grades in HS and college without any real plan because I genuinely don’t know what I’m supposed to do. All I know is that my interest in government and past success in social studies/history classes have led me to want a public sector job. I worked 6 months at my first job in 2019 then quit and didn’t resume work till summer 2022 so I have a massive gap in employment and less than 10k in savings. I never had a massive drive to figure out what to do, likely because I was held back in 1st grade so it took a while for me to actually start doing well in school.

>>274261675
>multiple stemfags out of work ITT
I could’ve sworn almost every stemfag here managed to get a remote job

>>274279554
nope, because I'm not a loser. I love how you entitled slime think everyone is like you. you are the outlier vermin and people are right to denigrate and despise you.

>>274280714
That's what you think but you try to cope about it. And that was kinds my point in the first place, not everyone is the same. People are formed differently depending on their environment and upbringing. Just like how you will always be an assholes no matter what and you will never changed that.

>>274255079
This is you right now
v
Point A
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Point B
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This is the day you die

Best you can do is keep going but is not that important.

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>>274278433
In my case, I already knew how shitty life will get for me so I decided to go down hill on my own terms
That's why I studied what I liked instead of what would make earn more money to the feudal lords who would like to hire me
I might die in poverty but fuck it, I did what I wanted, this is my personal middle finger to life, I can die without regrets now

>>274280680
You only hear about success stories, not a lot of people want to vent about how they failed despite taking what seemed like the right path.

>>274280884
>That's what you think
why would I listen to losers about anything? Obviously what I think is right because I live by my beliefs and don't whine about it on a Christmas Islander snow-blower review imageboard. if your disposition is to whine about your life, it should be cause for you to shut up about it and not hand out advice.

>>274281003
cringe

>>274281825
>of course I'm not biased, everything I said is true when applied to me and only me
Holy fuck you need to get your head out your own ass.

>>274267395
Same. Trips into foreign countries do a lot to me. I wouldn't call myself healed during that time but even the depressions and the ADHD shit is at its mininum because see new shit that actually interests me. It also helps that literally every country in the world seems to have nicer people than my own. I always thought that people that look down onto everybody else, aggressions as responses to niceness and general asocial behavior was normal until I went to another country for a month and got my mind blown. Don't have enough money to travel more than once every few years though.

>>274272307
Technically a diagnosis is good. Practically it will probably not help you because the European mental health care system and our form of therapy is beyond shit. You basically only profit from it if you're upper middle class normalfag woman that wants someone to tell them they're valid.

>>274282164
why would I do that when the people that disagree with me can't tie their shoes and walk out their front door because they are too afraid?
no criticism levied by shut-ins will ever land because my head is better off up my own ass then listening to anything a loser has to say. the proof of a pudding is in the tasting, my belief and behavioral structure got me to where I am today, which is a place of accomplishment, satisfaction and comfort.
if your belief and behavioral structure didn't get you to somewhere similar, then shut the fuck up because your pudding sucks.

>>274257005
Just bang it out. Having a degree is more important than what it’s in. You can transfer that to other bullshit it work easy

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>>274282724
>no criticism levied by shut-ins will ever land because my head is better off up my own ass then listening to anything a loser has to say. the proof of a pudding is in the tasting, my belief and behavioral structure got me to where I am today, which is a place of accomplishment, satisfaction and comfort.
Okay, then why are you here? Go live your life if you're so happy and successful.

>>274282724
>which is a place of accomplishment, satisfaction and comfort
More like simply luck.

>>274255079
Correct. It is a dressed up maturity tale where someone gets there shit together by their early 20s. Things get a lot worse afterwards, but I refuse to blogpost about the issue because this thread has too many of those already. Just know that when the mind gets dull it all goes to hell and theres not too many cures for stupidity out there

>>274281003
If the middle isn't important then why not skip it? Especially if that said middle is dissapointing
>inb4
"but you're the one who made it dissapointing"
If I accidently break my back and have to live in a wheelchair forever you can't just tell me to get out of the wheelchair. Some things you can't fix just by the virtue of suffering them

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>>274255079
daily reminder that the author of the novel is writing a sequel and Satou is still going after Misaki

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>>274255535
That sounds rough but you need to realize that you can only blame your parents up to a specific point, and at 27 your choices are your own.
I was in your position somewhat (only one parent was bad, other was spending entire time working to pay bills) but I was in earlier 20s, I did not step outside for over a year because I did not want anyone to see me and I had dropped out of highschool because I could not focus on schooling while being worried if I left the house my alcoholic mom would try to kill herself again.
Your best bet is the generic (but true) advice of cleaning your room, working out, showering daily, ect. Little wins that help you build confidence in yourself so that you have a better image of yourself. Things you can look at and say
>I did not need to do that, and it was a little inconvenient to go out of my way to do them, but it was a valuable use of my time."
After spending MANY years worrying about what others would think of me I now firmly believe that all anxiety is self-inflicted, the source of those worries is yourself not others.
If I had to wager, the true source of your problems is your own view of yourself disguised as worry about what others think or attributing to your parents issues and mistakes.
If you want to move forward and get to somewhere you can be happy it begins with accepting yourself, and the only way to do that is to become someone you can accept. Life is sink or swim and there is no way around that, being 27 with nothing to your name sucks but the longer you wait the worse the pit will be, you aren't in truly over territory yet.

gayest thread on 4chan

Hey guys, I made this thread as a meme. Please let it fall off the board because I want to post a new shitpost.

>>274286184
Your next thread will probably be just as bad and you should feel bad.
Filter ate my last reply because it contained a two-character networking term. Blow it out your ass, Hiro.

>>274285764
gayest thread on 4chan so far

>>274272513
I mean the other big thing is that misaki was also an insecure, troubled youth. Her therapy wouldn't help anyway since at her core she's also using it to escape her own problems and she's not experienced in social rehabilitation

>>274286378
>>274285764
There is a literal gay thread up it can only be the second gayest

>>274286412
Being in your early 20s is wanting Misaki to save you.
Being 30+ is wanting to save Misaki.

>>274286435
What's up with the figure in the pink box?

It's really sad how many retards completely missed the point of Welcome to the NHK. Anyone who thought
>Oh my god if I only had Misaki too I could be also saved!!!
is not even human to me.

>>274286456
Is it really a gay thread when it's made by straight women for straight women to talk about fictional gay men who don't even fuck?
At least some anons in this thread might hook up.

My problem with series like this (and .hack and NGE) is that the recovery plot always relies on luck and sudden romantic developments. It makes sense from a writing perspective, because you have to get development and some sort of happy ending to make an engaging series, but it shouldn't be viewed as advisory. At best a possible attempt of it.
Not only will you probably never meet that chosen person that syncs with you 100%, feels sudden empathy for you and happens to have the same problems as you and even less likely are they to come to you the way Misaki came to Satou, Subaru to Tsukasa or Kaworu or Mari to Shinji, even if it would happen you might fuck it up or not profit from it depending on the type of mental illness you have. I am incapable of having romantic feelings for anybody for some unknown reason, rendering any sort of closer relationship impossible. I cannot change it and I know my lack of love would eventually hurt the other person too so there is no point establishing such a relationship. Schizodia or autism, whatever causes it, it makes things much harder to solve.

27yo, neet for 11 years, when is misaki coming?

>>274274880
>indoctrinated normoid babble
Before you start coping, I work anywhere between 50 - 90 hours a week.

>>274255823
>>274255535
I'm sort of in a similar position.

The first thing you need to understand is that you are alone, actually, EVERYBODY is alone.

You feel like shit because you don't have a social network, but if you really think about it even people with 20 friends will receive 0 visits when they are sick. That is the world we live in.
People will help you if you are useful to them.
I have lot of people offering me jobs and opportunities when I did the same for others. When I became a neet I became untouchable.

On the other side don't fish for "wisdom" from random strangers.
People will tell you basic dumb truism like "work harder" and "don't be lazy". Most people will want to make you feel bad, because if you are in a bad position you SHOULD feel bad, and if they make you feel bad because you are in a bad place then they are good.

And even if its true that you should not be too comfortable with being in a bad place, feeling like shit 24x7 will not help you either.

Normies LOVE having people beneath them. When people trash you with your mistakes and failures is their way of telling you "KNOW YOUR PLACE". That's why people love comparing themselves with losers instead of comparing themselves with winners.
All those comments like "don't be a bitch" or "you are just making excuses" are social status attacks veiled as "good intentions". You are right if you think those comments are not well intentioned. But you need to keep moving forward without giving a fuck.

In my case even my therapists are fucked up in the head. One of my psychological examations showed that the sentiment that primary defines me is GUILT. Other told me that "I don't care enough and I'm too comfortable in my place". Fucking retards.

In other words. At the end of the day you are alone, but everybody is alone. So try to make yourself better.
Don't give a fuck what other people think.

>>274263000
Aripripazole could tame your compulsions.
The other part is to don't lean in into your compulsions.
The more you stop just going off the more you will gain self control like training a muscle.

>>274286742
I have a girlfriend even being a mentally ill neet and no, the magic of love doesn't fix your problems if anything the guilt of being unable to get my shit together and give her something better makes everything worse.

>>274286965
>even people with 20 friends will receive 0 visits when they are sick
False. I only have a handful of friends, and I do almost nothing to maintain friendships because I don't know how, but at least three of them were upset that I didn't tell them when I was sick because it made them feel bad about not being able to help.
>People will help you if you are useful to them.
*People who want to use you
Fun fact: Helping someone is proven to strengthen your attachment to them more than the other way around.
>I have lot of people offering me jobs and opportunities when I did the same for others. When I became a neet I became untouchable.
That's the difference between networking and friendship.

>Normies LOVE having people beneath them.
This is unironically true, and it's one of the big dividing lines between those who get something out of the rat race and those who see it for the farce it is.

>One of my psychological examations showed that the sentiment that primary defines me is GUILT. Other told me that "I don't care enough and I'm too comfortable in my place".
Misdiagnosis is common because psychology is a crapshoot based on clustering of imperfect self-descriptions of symptoms. Some of them are just inexperienced, but sometimes you just don't click enough to open up enough to tell them what they need to make the right inference. Speaking from experience.

>Don't give a fuck what other people think.
Being in a position to not give a fuck is a privilege, but it's a privilege worth striving for.

>>274287390
>Being in a position to not give a fuck is a privilege, but it's a privilege worth striving for.
You are missing the point.
If you are a loser playing make believe will not change that you are a loser.
But feeling like shit 24x7 will do nothing your you either.

You need to work in yourself and don't give a shit.
When you try to improve yourself there is going to be an army of people telling you that you need to feel bad, and work harder, and you are lazy, and bla blabla.
Normies are vicious and unironically their over socialization is a form of mental illness.

>>274287266
Yeah but it only confirms what I said. It doesn't help. It either doesn't happen to begin with that you find such a person, or you are incapable of caring about them or socialising with them due to your issues or you have them but the core problem is untouched and unsolved. The anons are right when they say that there is a big difference between failed normalfags and people that fail because they aren't normal. Drama series are usually about the first, since they have an easier time to get out of their misery. They usually just need a push from outside or someone supporting them.

>>274287473
>When you try to improve yourself there is going to be an army of people telling you that you need to feel bad, and work harder, and you are lazy, and bla blabla.
This is a completely delusional take unless you hang out with nothing but sociopaths.
It's also what I meant by the difference between networking and friendship. Share your self-improvement process only with friends, not with the people you only keep in your contact list because you want to use them and vice versa.

>>274255079
I wasted my life on being alone in my room playing visual novels, watching anime and jacking off to hentai. And I know that if I got a second chance I would do the same thing. I cant fix myself, no job, no partner, no motivation....

>>274287552
Not him and I don't know many that actively discourage you but what everybody else surely does is never commenting it positively, never showing that they care or give positive feedback. So if you try hard to improve and never get said feedback it feels like you didn't get better at all which might discourage many.
The best is when you see the same people screaming and hyping up every dumb shit someone else does. At some point you either completely ignore society or stop trying.

>>274279353
therapy isn't very helpful

>>274286742
>Not only will you probably never meet that chosen person
Blud its fiction

Im sorry that your parents werent quality enough parents to give you a conviction to follow their life or even just tell you outright that its foolish to live your life by the glimpses or summaries you see of fictional characters

But i say it again: its fiction. You have to be poorly raised to even begin to have that level of thought.

>>274255079
You shouldnt because IRL is even crueler. There are people who work and they can still be absolutely fucked when their parents die and even then the problem just changes to a more risky situation meaning
>What happens when your parents die something that is probably years down the road
Becomes
>What happens when you get fired/laid off which can happen every single passing day

>>274285570
>Your best bet is the generic (but true) advice of cleaning your room, working out, showering daily, ect.
Doing these things didn't help because my family just dragged me back down when I was feeling better for a while

>>274287985
The fact that they dragged you down meant that it at least gave you something to fall down from.
It isn't a silver bullet but it is a foundation to establish yourself from.

>>274287833
Talk about your gains with your gym buddies, not randos.
Discuss meditation with your meditation group, not randos.
Share your self-study progress with people studying the same thing (probably online, because what are the chances you know people IRL with the exact same goals).
Only mention the results with randos after you've booked results they haven't.

>>274287985
Don't know what to tell you anon.
Maybe if you confront your family?

Literally tell that you are mentally ill, that they are mentally ill and they worse your situation, that living there is poisonous to you and you want to get out. That you would do anything.
Maybe they can rent you a place where you can be alone and that would be better for everybody.
Mentally ill kids are 99% of the time caused by mentally ill parents.

>imagine yourself 30 years from now

Hopefully I've been dead for at least 20 years.

>>274288090
I told myself this when I was 20. Now I'm 40, and I hope to tell myself the same when I'm 60.
Even if I've achieved nothing, it's still a raised middle finger to the cold, uncaring masses. I will live in spite of them, against their best interests, and I might even enjoy it some of the time.

>>274288062
There's been violence between me and both of them so many times
I literally wrote a heartfelt email to my dad talking about how much I was struggling and I needed him to understand and he changed nothing about his behavior toward me at all
I've said I want to move out multiple times but I just get ignored
My mom works a part time job and spends all her money on alcohol to make everyone else's lives hell, my dad is only getting money from social security and keeps buying dumb shit anyway when all he does is say how he has no money to pay bills since he lost his job
both of them are nearly 70 and have severe health problems
I have no one to help me at all

>>274288181
Be strong anon, somehow we all are going to make it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ol_3p-OETM

>>274277336
You argue in bad faith and frankly, you just don't seem like a good-hearted guy. No other way to convey my disapprobation and mild disgust without meeting face to face.

>>274282570
Are you American?

>>274288251
I'm sorry anon.
I have a psychologist friend, he have a young patient with the same problems.
The girl is basically cutting herself, she talks with her parents and her parents do all kind of retarded shit, like acting like dumb retarded teenagers bullying their own daughter.
Is so fucked up.
Some adults are like that.

The reality is that your parents also have mental problems.
At least be proud that you are not discharging your shit on others.

>>274288062
>Maybe if you confront your family?
>Maybe they can rent you a place
If you want them to rent you a place, making them feel guilty about your predicament is the worst possible way to go about it.
It's better to frame it as an opportunity for self-improvement, assuming they're in a position to help you at all.

>>274288251
>I literally wrote a heartfelt email to my dad talking about how much I was struggling and I needed him to understand and he changed nothing about his behavior toward me at all
He sounds like a lost cause. Look into how you can get your own social security to pay your own rent and improvise from there.

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>>274255490
can't be called a gap if there's nothing in there to begin with

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>>274288360
No, German. I would have never made a trip to other countries to begin with if the flight alone already costed 1000 EUR+.

>>274286965
I want to live in a pure world where true love and friendship among comrades and brothers really exists. Like in the old Greek stories...

>>274288251
Feels bad anon...
What about going to a church?
Maybe sounds dumb, but it helped me even if I'm not a very religious person.

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It's okay, I have a part-time job and autismbucks. I'm in my late twenties now, I think i'll be fine. I'll continue saving up

>>274288408
I hate to back up a frogposter, but he's not wrong.
A gap of 1-2 years is your problem to explain.
A gap of 10-20 years is a lifetime of unemployment benefits, because it's not as if anyone will hire you at that point.

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>>274288444
Also this

>>274288251
>I literally wrote a heartfelt email to my dad talking about how much I was struggling
I remember you
you are that one blogposting anon from your home board >/v/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/688445381/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/1479700532076.png/
crazy to meet you here

>>274288445
>No, German.
My condolences.
>I would have never made a trip to other countries to begin with if the flight alone already costed 1000 EUR+.
You can literally travel to neighboring countries by rail for less than 100 EUR.
Not all of us are awful, I promise.

>>274272513
Yamazaki's outcome is not portrayed as a good thing.

>>274272513
>>274288652
The worst thing is that even if Yamazaki advice to Satou is well intentioned it comes out as complete tone deaf.
Moralizing to your neet friend that he is lazy and he will ruin his life when your own family is paving a complete life career for you is completely insane.

>>274288718
The same exact dynamic is played out ITT

>>274288390
>Look into how you can get your own social security to pay your own rent
I have no idea how to do this

I think part of the problem me and many others have is that our parents were already autistic, probably alcoholic and ADHD people but here is the thing: it could still work in the past. My father always worked (usually as janitor or random salesman) but shit back then was more autistm-friendly. For once nobody gave a shit about gaps in the resume because nobody looked at the resume to begin with. He basically walked into stores, asked whether they needed help and they got interested. He barely had to prove anything, they tested him for a week and kept him if he could fulfill the tasks. And he worked way less than the obligatory 8h. Lots of leeway, people wouldn't spy at you and snitch on you if you paused work for a second and I also believe that people were easier to talk to and I will die on this hill.

Nowadays everybody is expected to display some inhuman performance, speak five languages, have a master degree AND an apprenticeship and top tier grades everywhere and the boss WILL call your former employer to look for possible shortcomings of you. And this just the job related reality. I am not even talking about the social part. My parents only asked others to go to the pub with them and they were friends and would meet regularly for the rest of their lives. Everything was so fucking easy.

>>274288554
Do you have nothing better to do than trying to doxx some anonymous blog poster?
I guess I shouldn't be surprised since you're literally admitting to fucking cross boarding on /v/ of all places.

>>274288568
What neighbouring countries? Mexico fine. But I wouldn't care about Canada. I want to visit actual foreign cultures and see old cultural remains, medieval cities, be among people that speak a different language with a different cuisine. I refuse to even visit the UK since it's just the same shit as my own country just in English.

>>274288867
You are an anomaly on this website full of xenophobes, go somewhere else

>>274283895
>Okay, then why are you here?
to warn people away from believing losers. There is another way other than being a putrid wastrel.
>>274284265
> luck.
Luck that I made for myself. Is there anything you expect to earn in life or just have it all given to you for free without any effort or exertion?

>>274288947
You just want people to look down on.

>>274288444
>The main cost comes when you hit 35-40 and realize you have no kids and no partner in life
Feels like I'm on that route regardless.

I don't live a bad life at all but reading this thread is making me feel unjustifiably gloomy about my own life

>>274288867
>I want to visit actual foreign cultures and see old cultural remains, medieval cities, be among people that speak a different language with a different cuisine.
That's an abstract goal. Start by seeing sights you couldn't see at home and meeting people with different values. You can find both of those in Mexico and Canada. Maybe explore their cuisines and learn their language once you have an in. Maybe migrate once you have a network.
>I refuse to even visit the UK
Wise decision.

If you're American, below 30 or so, aren't disgustingly obese or addicted to drugs, and aren't a criminal, join the military for one contract and use it to get back on your feet. You can do some easy shit like supply or HR or finance and basically just be a lazy office worker in a uniform. If you have a clean background/are interested in computers do intel or cyber and make bank after getting out using clearance + experience + certs.
Guaranteed income that you can pocket 100% of while you're single and living in the barracks, free insurance and healthcare while in, and education benefits both while in and as a veteran.
>inb4 but mean people will yell at me and i might have to do physical labor
Yes but that's the price you pay. I've seen amazingly autistic people succeed in the military even though they hated all that shit. The tradeoff is in your favor.
>inb4 you're a recrooter shill
Fuck that shit, I'm just an autist who joined up instead of becoming a NEET. If I got recruiting orders I'd decline and get kicked out.

>>274288365
How am I supposed to break out of it? I can't even feel good about myself because everything I do even if it's a favor is ridiculed and criticized and then I'm blamed for isolating myself and being upset
>>274288463
I like the atmosphere of churches but nothing really beyond that
It's not like I could go when I don't drive anyway