>>274889526picked up, I love this
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>>274958284based
>>274960792Wow this is a very different manga than what I was expecting.
>>274961212It's insane isn't it
>>274961248Just get a blood type O dude.
>>274961674That's Shigeru Mizuki
>>274958052kek this would make so many american boomers seethe
>>274961248Heavy
>>274962735Love Itoh Sei
>>274962880Did he get there because of a Holy Grail-shaped beacon?
>>274962968>doesn't like DFCUnsurprisingly orcs a shit
>>274963055Same, I hope he starts another manga some day. At least I'm not aware of him doing anything at the moment.
>>274962735What a cool guy
>>274958052Picked the FUCK up
>>274958052>does war crimes and gets away with it>gets called out on it>"m-mah feelings.."The Japanese are evil
>>274963556Great manga but the last half doubles down so much on the misery porn that I became numb to it and had absolutely no real desire to reach the conclusion save for the sake of completion.
>>274963556God this manga was retarded. Incredible mechanical art but some of the worst writing I've ever seen. The author is obsessed with prostitutes and eating his own cum. I am not surprised Hajime Isayama likes his work.
>>274963355Taki Yashahime Onmyouji Ezoushi is ongoing, isn't it? Although with no translations.
>>274958052big deal america commits war crimes on the daily and gets away with it as well
>>274959672
>>274958052That manga was published in the same magazine as this one.
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>>274964302
Fucking hell man
>>274964369This manga had chapters from which every page could be posted in this thread
>>274962880>turns 360 and leaves
>>274958178such a slutty child
>>274966994:(
yeah
>>274964110The problem is they also try to play the victim, if they embraced their history they wouldn't be as insufferable.
>>274972470>The problem is they also try to play the victimjust like literally everybody else
>>274963975You seem to be right. I had put it on my wishlist on MU but forgot about it.
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>>274958284Something I think about is whether or not there was a core difference in the philosophy around war between the USA and Japan in WWII, where one knew the sober reality of war and the other had a romantic notion that war was their ticket to be the greatest nation. In the States, we had THE Civil War not too long before in the eyes of history and General "War is Hell, so I'm gonna commit war crimes" Sherman set the tone for that. Ever since, I think that's carried over into every war we've fought afterwards where the idea of fighting 'honorably' is laughable to us. We're a nation of Christians, yet we engage in activity which is a strict violation of the first commandment, it's intrinsically shameful to us.Meanwhile, I think Japan had the idea of serving the nation, the emperor, and overall a much more romantic idea of war. Sort of akin to what a lot of European countries thought prior to WWI(the grand adventure that became a wholesale slaughter). They simply weren't ready for the reality of the level of cruelty we were ready to inflict and all the resolve in the world couldn't save them from b-52's double loaded with Napalm.Naturally, this isn't black-n-white, but overall I get the feeling that this was the 'theme' for the high commands of both nations.
>>274961126Nagatoro set my expectations way too high, man.I was hoping for a more wholesome story than the original, but after checking the raws, it seems that's not going to happen at all.
>>274963556How can anyone write this down with a straight face?
>>274973115>Japanese>honor
>>274973128This isn't Nagatoro at all. The author basically confirmed she has sex with other men on this timeline. The only timeline where I think she's in a monogamous relationship is the one where she dates a fat 40 year old neet.
>>274964356>>274972728Sauce? All image search engines sucks nowadays.
>>274974485The first image is Choujin X
>>274974485works on my machine
>>274974485>>274972728 is Danjohi 1:5 no Sekai demo>>274964356 is use lens
>>274962880>a-are those g-g-girls? I'm outta here!
>>274975136I have no idea whats going on but I am loving it
>>274973115europeans were at war pretty much constantly since the idea of proper kingdoms established itself the idea of "war is hell" was always present, its enough you look at any period art and literature to figure that outand the idea that americans dont see war as an "adventure" is quite stupid to me toothe entire middle east disaster is portrayed even in your own media as guy going for an "adventure" or being delusional about justice and being absolutely disappointed over the reality, getting PTSD at the endvietnam probably looked like that at the start too, but with conscription and not volunteers in the picture the reality hit even faster and harder
>>274975722I think it's impossible to do that now because of the internet. In the early 2000s, the internet was a relatively new thing, but now it would be hard to convince people that you're really fighting the 'good fight' when every moment is documented and shared worldwide.
>>274975722tbf the Civil War was one the deadliest wars up until that point in history, largely due to the technology involved.
>>274976142>impossible*easier than ever Everyone is in an echo chamber now, no one cares about reality.
>>274976660I try to be optimistic about humanity but you're probably right..
>>274975722>the idea of "war is hell" was always present, its enough you look at any period art and literature to figure that outYes, but for us in America, the Union's victory in the Civil war, especially Sherman's actions, are interpreted as an ACCEPTANCE of that fact and that the North won by being more cut-throat then the 'gentlemanly' southerners.That colored our interpretation of warfare arguably all the way up to the "Bomber Mafia" in Vietnam.>and the idea that americans dont see war as an "adventure" is quite stupid to me too>the entire middle east disaster...I'm talking about WWII leadership philosophy specifically.
>>274973214>What is Bushido?
>>274974485use lens
>>274976532No, that would be the 30 Year War in Europe, which wiped out 1/3 of the continent's population. More than the Black Death.
>>274973115>Meanwhile, I think Japan had the idea of serving the nation, the emperor, and overall a much more romantic idea of warRelated to that, IIRC when the Japanese decided to surrender in August 1945, one of the first steps was sending a delegation to American-occupied Okinawa, from where they then headed to Manila in the Philippines to start negotiating the terms of surrender. When the delegation arrived to Okinawa by plane, one of the Japanese officers brought with him a bouquet of flowers which he then tried to offer to the Americans, whose reaction was basically "Really? Fuck off". I believe the Japanese thought they were simply following Western-style diplomatic niceties expected in this kind of situation, but to the Americans the gesture was banal, outlandish and even offensive after the bloody and bitter war they had just gone through.
>>274976142>I think it's impossible to do that now because of the internet.how stupid are you? is the gaza genocide teaching you nothing?
>>274973115The bigger thing to keep in mind is Japan had an incredible streak of fatalism around the entire war. It's something that can be hard to square unless you really consume a lot of material on it, but the overwhelm approach to the war can be summed up as "it's unfortunate but it has to be done." At every point they could've tried to choose a different path, the lower officers refused to accept it as a possibility and higher ups refused to make the hard choice to do it. As someone put it, it was almost as if Japan would prefer to stampede off the cliff to its own death rather than reanalyze their approach. This explains everything from them continuing to be embroiled in a pointless land war in Asia to sealing themselves inside machine gun bunkers in the final battles of the war.And on the other hand, Japan was under no illusions about the nature of war. They just thought they'd win it and did whatever they thought was necessary to do it. They were abject hypocrites when it came to their enemies: looking down on them if they didn't put up enough of a fight and therefore complete undeserving of consideration once captured. And yet enacting brutal reprisals if they fought too hard. Not exactly unusual for soldiers, of course, but it puts a serious dent into the idea of "honorable combatants." Of course, part of this is not so hypocritical, since they viewed their own capture with similar amounts of disgust.Not to tar all of "them" with the same brush, of course. Some ships fired on clearly identified civilian hospital barges. Others had their doctor essentially adopt an enemy nurse to protect her from the other soldiers. On and on. But the important thing analyze is not the universal human aspect, but the policy and philosophy of the war. Which was to attack, attack, attack, blood and thunder, don't retreat, victory is just one bloody fight away just keep going don't stop even if you run out of food, out of oil, out of metal, just keep attacking.
>>274962790BASED
>>274961708>american boomersWhy? Comfort women are a Korean boomer talking point.
>>274973115The Japanese lost because they a deficit of resources not cruelty, of which they had plenty.Honour means willingness to self sacrifice in the Japanese context not be nice to your enemies.Bushido is not Chivalry. (Chivalry wasn't even Chivalry)>>274982130Because the delegate was trying to give flowers after they decided to surrender that means the Japanese military would not have burned every American city to the ground if that option was available to them earlier in the war?>but to the Americans the gesture was banal, outlandish and even offensive after the bloody and bitter war they had just gone through.If anything that suggests a normalization of brutality in the mindset of the Japanese that the Americans didn't have.It is interesting that Japanese and American masturbatory narratives about the conflict are compatible with each other.'Oooo, we were just... too good and pure to win the war''Yeah that's right, us Mericans we know how to do what's gotta be done unlike those other guys'
>>274983191>fight with honor and nobility means have zero respect for any life, including your ownNothing to do with honor and nobility, it's just how pagans are. And Japanese are effectively pagans, they were never taught the value of life by a sensible religion
>>274982313The Israelis know what their army is doing and they're proud of it.
>>274982048No it would not. Hence 30 years. The Civil War did 1 mil deaths in 4 years. 30 year war did only twice that number in over seven times a longer duration. Pseud.
>>274983692Well that would be deaths per year not deaths per war.
>>274983795The word used was deadliest. As in the rate of death.
>>274983617The israelis don't know their army is actively making sure no hostage comes back alive. They don't know the aarmy was aware of the oct 7 attack and purposefully let civilians die, and even opened fire on their own citizens.And anyway, I was referring to american catholics who are incredibly pro israel
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>>274984436Intervening in foreign wars is stupid.
>>274983867Deadliest means death count, not rate.
>>274971002>vlc
>>274984540No. >deadliest. : likely to cause or capable of causing death.
>>274963343well it seems only reasonable that pig-type orcs would prefer big women
>>274984540>>274983692Deadleist would neither be the highest death count in total nor the highest death count in the shortest period of time. So you are both wrong. You would have to find out what was the probability of death for the average soldier in both wars.
>>274964110Yeah but we admit it, and say we're sorry.And then turn around and do the same fucking thing again, HELL YEAH!
>>274964110The only reason war crimes are a thing is because certain methods of war would grind through personnel too quickly.
>>274965181one of the few times ashaff seems powerfull, i wish the hiatus was over allready we just saw him do something for the first time in for ever
>>274979556wish this wasn't cut so short
>>274985686Sauce?
one of the few times the i can cut anything ability is as strong as it should be
>>274973128Sacha is a sweet but dumb slut whom the MC had the misfortune of falling for. He should have endevoured to get over it instead of sinking further into his emotions, but he's only a middle school student, after all. Hopefully he'll grow up some before making a terrible, life altering mistake.
>>274974082She just wants to steal his slideboard.
>>274984538oh so you are just retarded. got it.
>>274985735Mahoutsukai to Aka no Pilgrim
>>274978127Makes me think of Admiral Halsey, "Once we're done with them, Japanese will only be spoken in Hell." There's always been a kill 'em all mentality in the American military, and that others try to prevent that from happening probably makes American warfare look hypocritical, if not schizophrenic.
>>274985837Sold, reading Dolly Kill Kill now.
>>274985933We shouldn't get involved in the conflicts of others. We had no right to act as moral judges over other societies.
>>274965181>turning your own thought process into binaryAshaf is so based.
>>274986114You have to be over 18 to post on this site.
>>274985645Ashaf gets plenty of moments where he seems powerful imo.
>>274973115
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>>274986639
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>>274986586yeah like i sad in the newest chapters but then the hiatus hit
>>274986735>>274986704>>274986639>>274986597>one page thread
>>274986773Only>>274986704goes against OP's request.And this one.
>>274986767Any word on when the hiatus will be over? Is the author sick or something? Witch and the Beast has to be one of my favourite manga these days, the art and style of it just oozes character.
>>274986575So you retort to personal attacks when you can't argument anything? That's quite sad. But what else would you expect from someone who wants to implant his ideas into another country through military intervention.
>>274986114>>274986865NTA but you're a fool. We all live on this planet and we're all involved with each other. You can try to hide away but eventually you'll be involved. The only thing we can do in this world is advocate for what we think the best way of life is and sometimes that means you have to fight in defense of something.
>>274986922We should start a petition.
>>274986922If a matter involves us or an allied country then without question we should intervene to achieve the best outcome. But unchecked interventionism will only lead to more resent ment towards us.
>>274980302>What is a Meiji Restoration?
>>274987220>What is a benjo?
>>274987135Your extremely simplistic blanket statements don't reflect reality at all so honestly it's just a dumb conversation.
>>274987330
>>274961248Is that that manga about troops in the jungle? Not that's another one, I forgot the name.
>>274964110The USA also covered up Japanese war crimes in WW2.>>274972615Not Germany, I guess. Mongolia is on the opposite end of the spectrum, they had giant statues of Temujin built in his honour.
>>274985535Now there's a depressing thought.
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>>274987812It's not the best for OPT but seems apropo.
>>274987863>>274987864GET OUT OF MY HEAD
>>274987899
people who do not put the manga's name in the filename should be put to death>b-but image searchunreliable
>>274987305I thinks it's works well because it's simple not everything needs to be complex in life. We are I'm the position that we are right now because we tried to control everything.
>>274988114Just ask for source :)
>>274988114Just for you.
>>274988005TORQUE-SAMA...MY INQUISITOR!!!
>>274987929Too hot
>>274985025NOW its art.
>>274987812What's this? Looks fun.
>>274988444Jiro and Samura styles are almost like variations of each other.
>>274988538Joshikohei.
>>274964131https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_UXcwTlarU
>>274986808me on the top middle right
>>274958052>The American soldiers can't have forgotten the Japanese soldiers who fought with such bravery and nobility.lollmao, even. Most of the stories I've heard from old people who fought in the Pacific talked about how rabid those fuckers were. Not a single one ever mentioned how "honorable" or "brave" the Japanese were.
>>274964369>>274964651no kidding
>>274988538A lighthearted and grounded manga for the whole family.
>>274988563Shame this kind of lost steam with the earthquake for me. Is it even still going on? Feels like like drifters, it basically fell out the earth.
>>274988973Funny, I lost interest during the Earthquake too
>>274964302kek did he nigged those electronics or what
>>274965181>>274985645Damn thats some sick looking art. Is this a full on seinen?
>>274990050>56It's purely seiner as of volume 10. The lastest one
>>274988705yeah the guys in the pacific fucking despised the japsthey had to go on "possum patrols" where they would give every jap body an extra shot because the japs had a nasty habit of playing deadthey also habitually committed perfidy (faking surrender), and so the marines could no longer safely accept surrenders, so they stoppedthey also used their own people as human shields on the regular, and did shit like forced all their women to jump off cliffs when the americans invadedthey were also little rat bastards who loved to fight close and at night, slitting throats in foxholes.there was no honor in how they foughtof course, the worst bit is that they don't accept any culpability for their actions, they play the race card to act like victims.
>>274958284
Why does every discussion have to go on some political tangent? You mayomonkeys couldn't resist the urge to beat a dead horse droning on about how whites are blameless in wars while everyone else were godless heathens and savages huh? Get the fuck off your high horse or just go back to /pol/.
>>274982471I'd disagree. Even immediately postwar the japanese view of the war was like something akin to a typhoon. A natural disaster. Something done to them not done by them. In this mindset, they are the victims, rather than the perpetrators. This is also the basis of japanese pacifism. There is no high minded idealism there, if war is like a typhoon, what fool would call down a typhoon on his own head?
>>274986850>mai lai being included alongside the 6 million jews and the 20 million chinesepotent bait
>>274990409>he said in a bait thread with a bait OP
>>274990518Thanks for the confession
>>274988114how new?
>>274973115>We're a nation of Christians, yet we engage in activity which is a strict violation of the first commandment, it's intrinsically shameful to us.Hate to break it to you, but a proper translation of "Thou shalt not kill" is actually more accurately read as "Thou shalt not murder" As a result, the commandment is taken by most Christian clergy as NOT applying to soldiers at war, unless ofc they're attacking civilians or other "innocents," which would then be murder. If this weren't the case then the whole "priests praying with soldiers" thing would be a little odd, after all.I know, it sucks. It's nice to think there's one piece of decent aspirational morality in there but it's pretty much a sham.
>>274990728How do you know that?
>>274990815You can just google it. It's not hidden information. Even the shitty Google AI summary know it>"Thou shalt not kill" is often considered a mistranslation and should more accurately be translated as "Thou shalt not murder," as the original Hebrew word in the Ten Commandments refers specifically to unlawful killing or murder, not simply any act of killing
>>274990892How do you know that the information from Google is true?
>>274991045Are you just being dense on purpose? I wasn't implying that Google was my source. I was stating that this information is so common and well-known that it's the top result of any query on the subject. This is 4chan. I'm not giving you citations. Lo tirṣaḥ is the Biblical Hebrew. You can find no end of well cited sources on how it should be accurately translated.
>>274990474>Something done to them not done by themThis could just be disassociation with defeat though.You know, how when the home team wins all the fans say that "we won the game", but if their team loses, they'll say "the team lost the game".
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>>274990409>A victim card playing rodent shows up immediatelyNTA but it was worthy I guess
>>274958052Wat
>>274973128>Nagatoro set my expectations way too highNagatoro? Nagatoro set your expectations too high?
>>274994994Sadly, that's the state of expectations in modern society.
>>274987436Onward to our noble deaths . Its about Mizuki being disillusioned with war (I don't blame him , he lost his fucking arm lol)
>>274973115>In the States, we had THE Civil War not too long before in the eyes of historyJapan had a civil war at almost the same time as the US, and in fact, one of the factors that caused it was a US ship bombarding the shit out of a coast city because they wouldn't open the ports for trade.I don't know what effect this has on their comparative philosophies, but there, historical tidbit for ya.
>>274988474kek
>>274976297>that image sizeyuri romance is indeed devilish
>>274997847>US bombardingThat was the Brits.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardment_of_Kagoshima
>>274991045Kill yourself asap
>>274988444>>274988973Did these two couples end up together? I also lost interest.
>>274985222Funfact: this is actually based on a true story.
>>275007499t. nisio
>>274983867>picFinally, a man of culture.
>>274997737>Dirty PairI didn't recognize them visually but only because of the joke
>>274987834Fuck this author. Finish your ghost story before writing an incest father-daughter story you fat fuck.
just finished it todaykino
>>275005257I thought suicide is a sin. Or was that another mistranslation?
>>275015387I think you need to calculate how cost effective is to keep on living. The accumulation of sins you will commit in the future could be worse.
>>275004024That happened later.I'm talking about Commodore Perry in 1853.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Expedition
>>274975298Unfathomably based, thanks for the rec
>>275015841>ctrl+f bombard>zero resultsUh huh.
>>275016189Weird, it seems the accounts about whether he attacked or not are contradictory. The Perry Expedition wiki article doesn't mention it, but the Bakumatsu article does:>When Commodore Matthew C. Perry's four-ship squadron appeared in Edo Bay (Tokyo Bay) in July 1853, the shogunate was thrown into turmoil. Commodore Perry was fully prepared for hostilities if his negotiations with the Japanese failed, and threatened to open fire if the Japanese refused to negotiate. He gave them two white flags, telling them to hoist the flags when they wished a bombardment from his fleet to cease and to surrender.[8] To demonstrate his weapons, Perry ordered his ships to attack several buildings around the harbor. The ships of Perry were equipped with new Paixhans shell guns, capable of destroying buildings by delivering explosive shells at high velocity.[9][10]Supposedly the Japanese version of the article mentions he did shoot, but the cannons only used blanks, so there was no death or destruction.Imma have to do more reading about it. But then, I'm unsure how much more effort I wanna put into figuring it out, so I'll concede the point.
>>275019815COWABUNGA
>>275019815https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MuWMOV6U6w
>>274963753>he author is obsessed with [...] eating his own cum.You mean idiomatically?
>>275009123He was a great antagonist.
>>275021033Money a shit, dog for life.
>>275022193Monkey
>>274988114i shall start putting fake manga names in my files
I just caught up with undead unluck>>274988114Yandex seems to give better results
>>274992307Thank you Anon, this was hilarious
>>275022193same
>>274988114>>275023057lens is now better than saucenow and yandexit even finds raws
>>275023457does lens have a working search url feature yetif so what it isboth 4chanx and image search options still use the google reverse image search url which just doesn't work and i after the last time that broke due to parameter changes i havent bothered checking if it could be fixed
>>275024631It's been added to 4chanx config recently but is still commented out by default.>https://lens.google.com/uploadbyurl?url=%IMG;text:lens
Fate redline is such a icee of mastercraft of art
>>275024631The default image search uses lens
>>274964110but we won thoughbeitever, cry about it
