According to AnimePlanet these are the top 5 anime and manga of all time.
>>274993579absolutely cringeand nobody asked
>>274993579meanwhile none of these can reach the level of hype and engagement that Dragon Ball regularly does with any new content it releases.
>>274993579I care more about the the top 5 anime and manga of all time according to Me
>>274993626What is it?
>According to AnimePlanet
>>2749936371. Higurashi no Naku Koro ni2. Princess Tutu3. Mushoku Tensei4. Cardcaptor Sakura5. Goblin Slayer1. Berserk2-5. I don't read manga
>>274993579According to me I don't give a shit
>>274993975I don't read manga is pretty good.
>>274993579According to me these are the top 5 anime and manga of all time.
>>274993579>>>/y/
>>274993975This list might actually be worse than AnimePlanet's...
>>274993579>Fullreddit Malchemist
>>274993975>2-5. I don't read manga
>>274993975What the fuck is this list? So you either like cute magical girls or existential nightmare bloodbath hell, no in between.
>animeplanetBecause MAL and anilist weren't low enough, huh?
>>274993579Frieren is the only good one. The rest is trash.
>>274993579>3 Chinese gay gigolos masturbating to Taoism>The powertrip of a Korean sociopathic insel whose brain was rotted by gachas >2 newfag-magnet seasonal shows that have been out for less than a year>The Harry Potter of anime about an angry midget (probably he can't wank with his metal hand)>A series that has been on suicide watch since the author grew out of his cringe edgy teenager phase and later died wanking to idolmaster instead of writing>The never-ending manchildren saga that reminds you that appealing to autists will always make you the most money>Korean faggot groomers buying children to "enrich", just like on my local newsGreat list faggot KYS
>>274993579One Piece is the only good one here.
>>274994481fucking kek
Acording to the real world, half of those are not even manga
>>274993975>1. Alex Jones's Wet Dream (if he was a pedophile and didn't lust for tranny cock)>2. "I'm a sophisticated pedophile who acknowledges the classics!">3. "I'm just a pedophile!">4. "I'm a little girl (tranny) and a pedophile!">5. "I need to pretend to be a masculine rapist so they don't find out I like being pegged by little girls!">1. "I am an edgy faggot who is just like Guts! Especially the my-dad-sold-me-to-get -raped-by-a-nigger part"> 2-5. "I'm an illiterate nigger!"Another great list KYS nigger
>>274993579warmpiss bros...
>>274993975Based taste honestly
>>274994272The duality of man
>>274993579We're all posting our top 5s now>Azumanga Daioh>Golden Kamuy>Great Teacher Onizuka>The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya>Kaijin Kaihatsu-bu no Kuroitsu-sanHonorable mentions>Tonegawa Middle Management Blues>Yuru Yuri>Summertime Rendering>Baby Steps>Africa no Salaryman
>>274994481This post best post.
>>274995446>We're all posting our top 5s now>Clannad>Monogatari Series>Girls' Last Tour>Made in Abyss>Mushishi
>>274993579No it is not. No one is claiming that those are the best. All they can do is measure what's most popular. It's democracy, not proper art critique. And even if we were able to get humanity's best art critics, or maybe the most advanced AI, to find the best anime, the answer wouldn't satisfy most people. Because there's not a single anime in existence that more than fifty percent of all anime viewers would agree is the best.And isn't the value of art in what it inspires in people? What's the point of expert opinion if you don't truly get it? I think the best anime is what you like most, even if it's for personal reasons like nostalgia, or because it has your waifu in it.
>According to who/A/ is healing best thread
>>274994034That'd make a surprisingly appropriate title for a LN.
>>274995616>MiA>GLTBased
>>274996383An isekai LN where the protagonist is unaware of the average fantasy tropes and instead of becoming adventurer or anything similar he just lives his life as an average dude in some medieval town or village.A bunch of very obvious flags trying to bait him into becoming a hero are raised, but he never read any manga or played jrpgs, so he keeps being clueless and just tends to his cabbages with his average human non-slave wife.I feel like I've read something like this desu.
>>274993579Mao Mao? I'm surprised it's on there
>>274996310These types of threads are a roundabout way of looking down on the taste of normies. And you can like whatever you want but there should a notion of objective quality in any medium. Otherwise you can't push back against soulless crap or encourage/reward good things, it would all be subjective. Tolerating shit in the name of subjectivity is a sure way to create a culture with low standards.
>>274993579>Freiren>Solo Leveling>The Apothecary DiariesActually great taste.
>>274993603I asked. Frieren is as kino as it gets.
>>274996310>No one is claiming that those are the best.Tons of people are. Frieren is the highest rated anime of all time on MAL and MAL also Solo Leveling is on it's way to reaching the top 10 on MAL too.>I think the best anime is what you like most>or because it has your waifu in itI can respect this.
>>274994272You may notice that both moeshit and black metal are enjoyed by fat bastards with dirty hair. It's the same fanbase
>>274994176>Malchemistkek
>>2749935793 danmei :OOOO niccccce
>>274993579>According to LITERALLY WHO?alright man
>>274993579>shonenslop>anywhere in top 50another normalfag site discarded
My top 5 anime>S.S.S.S. Gridman>Mahoromatic >Little Witch Acidemia>NGE>FLCLManga>Hatarakanai Futari>Gintama>My Wife Has No Emotion >MahoAko>Soul Eater
>>275001953>entire list is dogshitThis is absolutely abhorrent taste.
>>274993614Toei literally ignores ypue franchise, gives it to amateur animators. While one piece gets all the talent, hype and budget.
Frieren is only season 1 to an unfinished IP. That many claim gets a little bit worse as it goes on and it just went on an indefinite hiatus. So who even knows if it's going to end or not. It does not deserve to be higher than other well-established IP's that are either finished or have set up their world better. It's a disgrace to see something that's high that maybe his only animated 25% of the whole show.
>>275002206Where do you people get the term "IP" from?Why do you insist on using this term now?
>>274996310Heaven's Official Blessing is consistently within the top 10 of every website, MAL for example has it around 8-9
>>274993579solo leveling isn't a manga and also is absolute dogshit
>>275002475this chingchongdingdong shit isn't anime, though
>>274993975Anon you love Goblin Slayer; we already know that you're essentially illiterate
>>274996310>there's not a single anime in existence that more than fifty percent of all anime viewers would agree is the bestIf the majority of anime fans like something it is 100% guaranteed to be shit. Hell if the majority of anime fans even know about it in the first place it is probably shit.Berserk is the only possible exception to this rule, making it best not to talk about it in the first place.
>>275002552Neither is Solo Levelling then, and you faggots have nonstop threads about it
>>275002767what makes you think I have anything good say about that?
>>275002206>That many claim gets a little bit worse as it goes onIt gets better as it goes on.
>>275001953just say you hate anime and are a westaboo
>>274993975>5. Goblin Slayernice
>>275002552It's anime. Basically all anime these days is made in korean and chinese sweatshops.
>>275003439it's not
>>274995446>House of Five Leaves>Girls und Panzer>Minami-Ke>Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru>Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu
>>275002767>you faggotsIf you can't tell solo gooking threads are very blatantly overran by paid shills then you need to get checked for some kind of mental impairment
>>274993579FMA, One Piece and Berserk are the only ones that deserve to be there. The rest are literally gay or FOMO slop.
Disgusting recency bias.
>>274993579frieren is boring other than the first episode and when she tells the chick to kys. apothecary, diabolism, and heaven look like they're for girls. and wtf is sunny days? is that two gay dudes adopting a kid or something?
MyAnimeList>1. Berserk>2. Jojo>3. Vagabond>4. One Piece>5. Monster>6. Slam Dunk>7. Vinland Saga>8. FMA / Heaven Official Blessing (TIED)>9. Grand Blue
>>274993579Nice. The only shit thing on that list is One Piece. RIP Miura.
>>275003818Berserk and OP have built their legacy. The others have not.
>>275003439Stop acting autistic and arguing over the semantics of the definition of anime. Anime is what's made mainly by the Japanese and mainly for the Japanese. You can have some work off-shored to another country, but if the direction is lead by Japanese people and for a Japanese audience, it's still anime. If we didn't allow for some leeway, we would have to calculate the percentage of Japanese creators and compare that with acceptable thresholds for each anime, which is extreme autism territory.
>>274994634>/co/ckroach talking about what is and isn't mangaChrist almighty. You really can't make this shit up.
>>275003856Mo Dao Zu Shi is far bigger than One Piece and Berserk simply due to being massive in China.
>>275003772This is way better, holy shit.
>>275003894China is irrelevant and soon will go back to being 3rd world.
>>275003718>frieren is boringWe're not talking dung meshit here though.
>>275003894>Mo Dao Zu Shi is far bigger than One Piece and Berserk simply due to being massive in China.yes, but it is irrelevant, because China does not leave China.
>>275003946half the anime is nomadic K-On
>>275003897it's literally just the MAL list lol
>>275003930>Largest population in the world and biggest global super power is irrelevantMutt education
>>274993579>shonen shit>some literal who gook/chink slopgod I hate normalfags
>>275003864>but if the direction is lead by Japanese people and for a Japanese audiencenow you're just making up your own esoteric definition.
more like animal planet with taste like these
>>275002469It's shill language. Reflective of the coonsumer times we live in.
Why is there a novel in the manga list? This site's categorisation is lacking.
>>275003894One Piece is big in China and Taiwan so it's hard to say how the fujo numbers compare.
>>275005335MDZS's live action show had over 200 million viewers, the anime had around 100 million
>>275005591The live action had a shitload of normalfags watching it, to the point that fujos made a meme of recording their boyfriends and male relatives trying to guess who the villain was because they kept picking the love interest. Animation isn't going to get the same numbers as live action dramas, but what we really need to compare is manga and book sales.
>>275005666Mo Dao Zu Shi had over 6 billion reads by 2023. So that's around 50 million from one platform specifically
>>275003930Two more weeks!
>>275005853The collapse starts in the 2040's. They have too many old people and not enough young ones to take care of their aging population. They're trying to mitigate it now with land grabs. We'll see how desperate they get in the next 5-10 years.
>>274993579The first three are really good but two suffer from recency bias. Solo leveling does not deserve to be on any list.
>>274993579Behold a COMPARISON of the Top 10s on the four most popular anime logging sites.>MyAnimeList1. Sousou no Frieren (2023) - 9.312. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (2009) - 9.103. One Piece Fan Letter (2024) - 9.074. Steins;Gate (2011) - 9.075. Shingeki no Kyojin Season 3 Part 2 - 9.056. Gintama° (2015) - 9.057. Gintama: The Final (2021) - 9.048. Gintama' (2011) - 9.039. Hunter x Hunter (2011) - 9.0310. Gintama': Enchousen - 9.02>Anilist1. Sousou no Frieren (2023) - 91%2. Gintama: THE FINAL (2021) - 91%3. One Piece Fan Letter (2024) - 90%4. Gintama° (2015) - 90%5. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (2009) - 90% 6. Fruits Basket: The Final (2021) - 89%7. Shingeki no Kyojin Season 3 Part 2 (2019) - 89%8. Kaguya-Sama Ultra Romantic (2022) - 89%9. Owarimonogatari (Ge) (2017) - 89%10. Hunter x Hunter (2011) - 89%>Kitsu1. Sousou no Frieren (2023) - 87.83%2. Dandadan (2024) - 87.3%3. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Yuukaku-hen (2021) - 87.12%4. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Natagumo Yama-hen (2020) - 86.97%5. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Mugen Ressha-hen (2021) - 86.91%6. Arcane Season 2 (2024) - 86.83%7. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Mugen Ressha-hen (2020) -86.71%8. One Piece Fan Letter (2024) - 86.59%9. Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2 (2023) - 86.58%10. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Tsuzumi Yashiki-hen (2021) - 86.46%>AniDB1. Sousou no Frieren (2024) - 9.752. Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu (1988) - 9.713. Gintama° (2015) - 9.644. Ashita no Joe 2 (1980) - 9.635. Mushishi Zoku Shou (2014) - 9.606. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (2009) - 9.557. The Apothecary Diaries (2023) - 9.518. Mushishi Zoku Shou: Suzu no Shizuku (2015) - 9.499. Steins;Gate (2011) - 9.4610. Gintama' (2011) - 9.45
>>275006160>Sousou no Frieren tops every listSo what's going on here? This seems forced and not natural.
>>274995616>We're all posting our top 5s now>Clannad>K-On>OreImo>Nagi no Asukara>Kanon (2006)
>>275006213Frieren is the new normalfag magnet series now that Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is 16 years old
>>274996310>I think the best anime is what you like most, even if it's for personal reasons like nostalgia, or because it has your waifu in it.This actually sounds like something Tsukasa would write.
>>275005778"Reads"? Do you mean webpage views or purchases on JJWXC, and is this per chapter, per volume, or overall? These figures are kind of useless if we don't know what we're comparing them to. Looking into it it there's four official publishers for One Piece in Chinese, and a well known unofficial group that uses an alternative name for the series. It seems like the popularity of pirate copies of the pirate manga makes it nigh impossible to gauge what the total numbers are, but we can see that they have all 110 volumes officially.
>>274998078It's the #2 top selling light novel of all time in Japan...
>>275002206Frieren is going to be the new Log Horizon.
>>275006233Why? What's it offer over the competition? I watched the first season. I certainly thought it was good. But not some sort of pinnacle that everything else should strive to achieve. Again, the praise seems forced. It reached #1 on mal by episode 4.
>>275006321no one cares about Log Horizon
>>275006321So strong start to forgotten?
>>275006363Yes.>>275006344They did during the first season.
>>275006330Frieren is charming enough that every major demographic can find something in it to like whereas it also doesn't do anything to piss of any demographic.
>>275006462>it also doesn't do anything to piss of any demographic.it's offensively boring
One Piece Wit Remake replaces Frieren. I bet.
>>275006513>it's offensively boringBoring doesn't hurt sales if anything it helps it.KFC is the largest global fried chicken chain--it's also the most boring one.
>>275001459MAL is more of a popularity contest than a quality one. Bleach was at the top of MAL for a while with a 9 score and anyone that considers Bleach being some sort of masterpiece is either trolling or a lobotomite. The only reason it ended up that high was Bleach coming back after years with flashy animation. A lot of the 8s in MAL have varying quality as well, some are obviously better than others, but only have a difference of 0.xx or 0.0x in their score. Frieren being the highest rated anime in MAL is just a show of its popularity with the MAL crowd, which is composed of midwit pseudo-critics, normalfags and newniggers.
>>275006160Also, here are the lists when you removes sequels/remakes/spin-offs>MyAnimeList1 (1). Sousou no Frieren (2023) - 9.312 (4). Steins;Gate (2011) - 9.073 (11). Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu (1988) - 9.014 (17). Gintama (2006) - 8.935 (18). Koe no Katachi (2016) - 8.936 (23). The Apothecary Diaries (2023) - 8.887 (24). Monster (2004) - 8.888 (28). Kimi no Na Wa (2016) - 8.839 (36). Spirited Away (2001) - 8.7710 (39). Hajime no Ippo (2000) - 8.77>Anilist1 (1). Sousou no Frieren (2023) - 91%2 (11). Steins;Gate (2011) - 89%3 (18). Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu (1988) - 88%4 (19). The Apothecary Diaries (2023) - 88%5 (21). Monster (2004) - 88%6 (22). Koe no Katachi (2016) - 88%7 (24). One Piece (1999) - 88%8 (33). Vinland Saga (2019) - 87%9 (36). Look Back (2024) - 87%10 (42). Bocchi the Roch! (2022) - 87%>Kitsu1 (1). Sousou no Frieren (2023) - 87.83%2 (2). Dandadan (2024) - 87.3%3 (14). Kimetsu no Yaiba (2019) - 86.29%4 (15). Jujutsu Kaisen (2020) - 85.97%5 (18). Look Back (2024) - 85.58%6 (23). Spy x Family (2022) - 85.32%7 (25). Dungeon Meshi (2024) - 85.24%8 (29). Kaijuu 8-gou (2024) - 84.7%9 (30). Shingeki no Kyojin (2013) - 84.69%10 (31). Chainsawman (2022) - 84.24%>AniDB1 (1). Sousou no Frieren (2024) - 9.752 (2). Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu (1988) - 9.713 (7). The Apothecary Diaries (2023) - 9.514 (9). Steins;Gate (2011) - 9.465 (26). Usagi Drop (2011) - 9.156 (28). Koe no Katachi (2016) - 9.137 (30). Ping Pong The Animation (2014) - 9.128 (32). Cross Game (2009) - 9.119 (34). Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni (2016) - 9.0810 (35). Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu (2016) - 9.08
>>275007161Frieren sweep.
>>274993579>>274995446Dropping my top 5 anime and manga1. Sayonara zetsubou sensei.2.Astro fighter sunred3.muromi-san4.kill la kill5.yuyushiki1.kinnikuman2.claymore3.yotsuba4.bnha5. Call of the night
>>274995446>Aria>Haibane Renmei>Hidamari Sketch>FMP>Slayers
Your favorite anime and manga are bad and mine are good.
>Odd Taxi>Kill la Kill>Mawaru Penguindrum>Code Geass>Katanagatari
>>275006160Covid lockdown and it's consequences were a disaster for the anime industry and the internet as a whole
>>275007790Yeah covid and netflix fucked it all up
>>274993659fpbpWe used to shit on offsiters like mal posters, why is an AP thread up for 11 hours? Animeplanet posts should be deleted on sight.
>>274993579>According to literally idgfspam this shit somewhere else
>>274993579According to me OP is gay and regulary suck circumcised cock.
>>275007790Most of these lists were filled with popular shit before either of those things.MAL's Top 10 used to have FMA03, Haruhi, LotGH, and HxH99 among others, also known as the most popular anime of their time.
>>2749935791. Shinsekai Yori2. Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust3. Tekkaman Blade4. Gundam 005. Magic Knight Rayearth1. Blame!2. Ad Astra: Scipio To Hannibal3. GetBackers4. Hunter X Hunter5. Over Rev: A Legend of Ultimate Hot Rodder
>>274993579That is surprisingly passable list, warmpiss and boreleveling aside.
>>274993579I love danmei mwah