The long-waited Chapter 31 came out; Dumping.
We love Yami here
We hate Aya-chan here.
>>275118036Yuu?!>>275118062And Hikari?!?!
>>275118024Where did you get this page? It wasn't posted on twitter
YAMIFAGS RISE UP
>>275118142It's on the official website, though I got confused at first too.https://note.com/saranami/n/nefe9b3dc4d4f
I already hated this black haired puta enough, Maruto. You didn't need to make another arc for me to hate her even more.
>>275118244lol maybe one of them messed up when posting it
>>275118052Hikari feels like such a non-character at this point already, it's making it hard to care about her. I hope she actually does something you wouldn't expect from a happy-go-lucky girl in the next chapter.
>>275118306Or not, geez
Now that Yami asserted her dominance over Hikari, how do they become friends? And more importantly, when does Yami betray Hikari for Yuu?
>>275118359What? Are they just trying to make readers visit note?
>>275118339She will become corrupted and incredibly toxic/jaded by the end of this manga
Cucking hikari with yami!!!!
>>275118024>Please look forward to seeing which heroine will appear in which timeline this time >It's still Yami's POV
>>275118400>gets a publisher>shilling notes nowit's over, the grift is clear
>>275118504BSS!!!
>>275118504Soon you will, Yuu.
>>275118373>Wah! Wah! Wah! Woe is me!>Here's a wall of text of off-screen developments.Hack.
>>275118311Imagine if she was still dating Yuu while meeting Hikari. Bros Maruto cucked us out of a genuine cat fight.
>>275118454God I hope so. But this is a flashback so clearly not happening. She will just attempt to heal Yami with a friendship no jutsu.
>>275118638Hikari still doesn't care about him at this point. Although it would be interesting to see Yami's attitude if she realized she was talking to his first love.
>>275118311I wish she would baaka me
>>275118395Final page for chapter 31?Thanks for dumping it
>>275118359So in xitter version Hikari just wakes Yami up while in the full version she interrupts her dream about Yuu. Kinda neat.
>>275118880Free the YuuYami
In WN version Yami basically gets annoyed that Hikari isn't annoyed by her rude attitude.
The festival kiss keeps making yami looks worse the more this goes on lol
>>275119437I think Yami is okay with not being friends with Hikari if she could get Yuu
it seems like maruto feels like he didn't do enough with kazusa or something, because this is like beat for beat kazusa and haruki when they first met
>>275119437How?If anything, flashback made it even more obvious why she would kiss him.
>>275119539Felt the same thing.The only difference is that Haruki was trying to help while Hikari is asking Yami to help with the festival.
>>275119665Yeah and now i don't really see her treasuring Hikari to the point where the consequences of whatever happen in the festival would matter and yuu is yuu
>>275118373>it was all for nothing and she barely talks to her mom anyway, bad relationship with herit's over
>>275119775It's not so bad. Her mom could've legally kicked her out when she became 18 if she wanted. This arc is probably showing Hikari helping her to make-up with her mom to a certain extent.
>>275119842Except we know in 13.5 their relationship never improved, other than Yami’s mom being a control freak
the return to the present better blow my fucking balls off if we're getting ANOTHER whole flashback arc
>>275119775Not like she was trying to mend her relationship with mom. She just doesn't want to leave her alone.
>>275119948she definitely was, and the way she's talking here makes it clear she tried to make it work, it didn't, and that it's regrettable
>>275120006Is that why she had that dream about Yuu?
Need to know if Yuu also dreams of Yami
>>275120065No, why would he after Yami ghost him
>>275120117Get off me
>>275120006Previous chapter already established that. And it didn't seem like Yami was trying to do anything about it.
>>275120210What do you mean? She felt guilty and got sad, isn't that enough?
>>275120043i mean regardless of how things are going with her mom she still loves and misses him
So Hikari is losing then? if Yami is getting all these woe is me flashbacks
>>275120494Nah, Hikari is winning because she’s more positive
I heckin love flashback arcs!
>>275120517that didn't work very well in the canon part of white album 2
>>275120554Setsuna 2 - 1 Kazusaby the way
>>275118052I love you Hikari
>>275120598in the only part with a canon resolution where both girls were present, haruki chose kazusa
>>275118024>It's another flashback arcWho the fuck cares about this boring plot device, move on already.
>>275118052ENTER
>>275120878Whatever you say to cope about it.
>>275120946i don't know why you're getting defensive, ic is analogous to this series and in that, the guy chose the less positive girland if you really want to get into it, he chose the less positive one in the cheating end, but got rejected
>>275121099he couldn't choose in the cheating end and that's why he got rejected, the whole point of that is that he cannot have both
>>275121171the way i read it, it's really more like he was ready to do what happened in kazusa true, but she wouldn't let him
>>275121264The retard waffled for almost a month in that, of course she would be fucking mad at him.
>>275119774Yuu will pick Hikari
>>275118024For a fucking minute, I assume we were going back to the kiss.
>>275122092lol no
Yami will win
>>275122233How many chapters will this arc last? And I hope he changes to weekly updates and not biweekly.
>>275122323Until C106, probably.
TL's been out for twenty minutes now wtf are we doing sitting on our asses. Dumping
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>>275122233I'm going to have to filter these threads for 2 months just so when I return we get back to the kiss. All this meandering is so gay
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>>275122564>2 months
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>>275122484page 1 is missing
>>275122700That's from the novel version
>>275122613Aw FUCK I forgot AAAAAAAASee you all in July
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>>275122484I love you Hikari.That's a weird choice of font for her.
i'm surprised how quickly this gets translated, the chapters are of course usually fairly short, but this one is pretty wordy and was done in no timei know plenty of other series with comparable word counts per chapter that haven't had translations for months
>>275122951It's all about motivation, motivation~
>>275122876>>275122905>They away her relationship with Yuu for no reasonShe doesn't deserve to win.
It's time for another flashback but this time from the perspective of the penis they are both obsessed with
>>275122484Just noticed Haru and Yuki in the background
>>275122905Torn between wanting more chapters to solidy how important hikari was to yami and wanting flashback hell to end but the chapter was good
>>275118024Chapter 31 translation is out:https://mangadex.org/chapter/f142955e-2900-499b-8ff7-1b775a494ffcLooks like they missed the first page though. Dumping anyway.
>>275122951Translating is fast. Typesetting takes a while depending on how anal the person doing it is. For a chapter like this it's like 20 minutes tops for a page as he isn't doing many redraws for the onomatopoeia.
>>275123181Oh nevermind, I see it was dumped already. What the fuck, it certainly wasn't on Dex yet.
Everyone seems scared of Yami...
>>275122905Poor Hikari. She was not ready for Yami.
BEFRIENDING ARC LET'S GOOOOOO>>275118359Uhh.>>275118880For what purpose. Well, that explains the TL missing the first page.>>275119539>>275119754I know, right?>>275122994Ooh, nice catch.
>>275123551Whoops, meant to quote >>275123019 for the last line.
>>275118311they should kiss
The writer really is a VN writer. The amount of words wasted in this pointless arc is impressive, stuff you only see in VNs and Romantic movement literature.
>>275122484>That tortured soul faceMy "I can fix her" instincts are going fucking wild.
This author got addicted with hikari's cuck face
>>275118024Oh, so now we’ll see how Hikari became, as Yami says, her ‘best friend’ and helped her out of this negative mental state. Works for me—this won’t do Yami any favors; if anything, it’ll just make Yami look even worse when we get back to the canon event.
>>275123102It's our last chance to enjoy a happy Hikari again before her smile and optimism are obliterated forever.>>275123968>copypasting MD comments again
>>275123968>Oh, so now we’ll see how Hikari became, as Yami says, her ‘best friend’ and helped her out of this negative mental state. Works for me—this won’t do Yami any favors; if anything, it’ll just make Yami look even worse when we get back to the canon event.Eh this volume is for the Yuri firends
>>275118525I was betting on a Hikari POV to slowly reveal how things went with Yami's home life as they became friends, then a switch to Yami's POV for the volume 1 timeframe. But it looks like we may be staying on the Yami train till we return to the present, or possibly a bit further.
>>275124075In your heart, you know he’s right. Yami is a terrible person and friend.
>>275122484https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQetemT1sWc
>>275122778>>275122669>>275122634This is just Kazusa and Haruki again, Maruto is a hack
>>275124551She did her best to dodge Yuu. I don't blame her for not being able to hold back in an emotionally charged reunion. Much depends on Yuu's words in that encounter.
>no Yuu until we go back from the flashbackDropped till then, I guess. This series' got no value for me unless bitches lose their minds over my self-insert's cock.
>>275124814But Yuu will be mentioned. He will be under Ta~kun and Yami will never know.
>>275123743Eh it's fine we kinda need this arc otherwise it's the love of my life vs a girl in class i was bit close to
>>275118024What the fuck does this page say? Since apparently, nobody bothered to translate it.
>>275125145It's just Hikaru trying to wake her up
>>275123928And so did I.
>>275125145>Matsushita-san.>Hey, sorry, Matsushita-san.
>>275125145>chapter title top right>"Matsushita-san?">"Hey, excuse me. Matsushita-san."
I dislike how goofy hikari is presented, because it means we won't get master manipulator hikari gaslighting yuu into being her lover
people really want Seki to be a heroine.
>>275125779You know that Toradora spin-off about the girl who touches Taiga hoping to get a boyfriend?
>>275125779Outside of living rent free in Hikari and possibly Yami’s head, why do people live her?
oh i forgot it's already monday
>>275125779Would be an interesting perspective on how Yuu acts in his school. And how other women loves him.
>>275123019good eyes, i lol'd at their nervously spectating
>>275123473she's just a dye job away from being a delinquent
>>275125779Wait until we see Yuu's pov.
>>275122598>being called matsushita gets her attentionkek
>>275126343Or a bunch of ear piercings
>if Yami never ghosted Yuu she could have gotten her happy ending.
Mangadex really fucking hates Yami.
>>275126646>midwits have midwit opinionsWhat else is new?
>>275123743He really loves writing angsty Yami monologues that don't say anything interesting.
>>275126857So an accurate depiction of the teenage experience?
>>275118311Imagine if Yuu saw her like this.
>>275127334AUGH
>>275126491Maybe? Right when she met him, she blew up her parents marriage. Her mom an-heroing attempt was going to happen regardless. It probably would have gotten worse if she tried to be happy near the mom she made unhappy.
>>275127334>it was like she was looking at walking garbage
>>275126646>>275126771/a/ hated her at first too before everyone realized she's the only thing making this interesting
>>275118024>still in flashbackYAMEROOOOOOOOOOO
>>275127491Mom is an unhappy bitch that still seethes at her daughter. Also Yami gave up trying to be a happy family with her in a month, rendering her breaking up with Yuu pointless.
>>275127526it's only been 5 months since the flashback started, quite short
It's time to go full tenjo tenge and have a flashback within a flashback within a flashback and flashbacks are 80% of the entire manga.Go back to when Yami was 6 years old and was Yuu's childhood friend.
>>275122876Was it woth it, Yami? WAS IT WORTH IT?
>>275118024Those dead eyes are extremely arousing
>>275127609man, I can't wait for 9 more chapters about Aya-chan and Hikari bonding over her troubled teen life, then we finally get 10 chapters of Seki stalking Yuu, culmination into the rejection we've already seen and then 10 chapters of Yuki and Haru meeting up for the first time and joining Aya-chan and Hikari and maybe after all that we can get the kiss continuation, or better yet, we get Yuu's mom pov and we get the full deets of Yuu's and Hikari's childhood
>>275127594She seemed quite happy in present-time chapters so maybe Hikari repairs the bridge.
>>275127697There'll be 10 chapters of Yuu chasing Yami around the school before eventually the reunion happen, hope you enjoy!
>>275127950In the novel version of 13.5, her mom is still an irritable control freak with her. Maybe having friends at school helped her put up with it better, though.https://xxddmm.neocities.org/saranami_ss2Oh hey, and the TL for novel ch.31 is out.
Yami has a hard Life
Nice to see Yami revert back to her nihilistic thoughts.
Hikari can't handle confrontations. Makes her delinquent attempt at chapter 12 all the funnier.
And Yami is back at hating her mother.
Why doesn’t Hikari, the most popular girl in school, use her popularity and social butterfly status to force Yami to give up on Yuu via bullying?
>>275128251>>275128269I can see Yami getting annoyed after not only being waken up but also shook and even even her wrist being grabbed by some random slut from her class.
A dash of NTR would really spice up this manga.
>>275128500Reader NTR is the best kind of NTR.
>>275128500Don't worry, Hikari cucking Yami is just a matter of time.
>>275128500>back to the festival>Hikari is too shocked to move from the door>keeps watching how things unfold to the end
>>275128447Yami was yielding anyway before, but now Yuu knows where to find her.
>>275128447Don't give Maruto ideas
>>275128890Since when is kissing someone yielding? Also Yuu always knew where to find Yami.
>>275128932She was dodging him to avoid that situation. And Yuu didn't know if she ever went back to school, nor which class she'd be in.
>>275128447>Yami drops out and transfers to Yuu's school
>>275129144I thought of this last chapter lol
>>275127334Didn't he already? Except she was also naked.
>>275128447Hikari undergoing a villain arc would be great, shame Yom already decided that Yami will win.
>>275122876>makes rash, life changing decisions at the drop of a hat>none turn out like she wants>immediately loses the will to keep goingharsh
>>275118052FINALLY A RAY OF LIGHT IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN 2025 AD
>>275127594>Also Yami gave up trying to be a happy familyWhat even gave you an idea she was trying to be a happy family? She says in this chapter this whole thing is supposed to be a punishment >>275128283 and there was never any indication she thought it would be a happy time.
>>275122804Ah, I can't recreate Yami's hair without a lora. Why foreheads are so sexy tho
>>275122778I feel like it's rarely the focus on his art, but Yom can draw beautiful hands
>>275128447lemon woman love
The kiss was the second to last non flashback chapter. It wont stop being flashbacks until the final chapter where it shows Hikari hanging herself.
>>275118024No matter how many chapters pass, I will still hate her for what she did in chapter 21. Nothing will justify her behavior. And the way she’s acting out on others further solidifies my opinion of her. Why is Maruto so desperate to make her into this sympathetic character? He should just make her into a total bitch, with Yuu being her only soft spot. I just don’t get VN authors.
>>275131008Copypasted from somewhere again?
>>275131048Nah, that’s how I feel about Ayami. Maruto, in my opinion, fucked her character up and him trying to course correct is making it worse.
>>275131143You should go cry to mangadex then>waaaah how dared she kiss the guy she loves
>>275131213You dumbass, she kissed a guy knowing her best friend was going to confess to him. That's a betrayal that can't be forgiven.
>>275125241Me too.
>>275131303>her best friend was going to confess to himYeah, that's so important. Compared to sharing all of each other's firsts and spending the happiest time of their lives together.
>>275118395>first interaction as class rep>grill instantly quits schoolGOOD JOB, dork
It's over
>>275131451Sadly she didn't go all the way and roped after leaving the class.
>>275125779she's cute but didn't she get a new boyfriend like immediately?
>>275131459>It's overWhy?
>>275131621The franchise will now be commercialize.
oh my god I'm so sick of this nihilistic bitch being the MC still after like 10 chapters. done with this shit for a very long time.
>>275125779so yuu dated seki right after yami? what a whore!!!
>>275132872No? Seki, much like Hikari, tricked Yuu into a date.
>>275132935>much like Hikari, tricked Yuu into a dateI completely forgot Hikari actually never told him she was taking him on dates.
toss yami into a meat grinder and piss on her giblets
>>275118052I want their friendship to survive, bros. It's a beautiful thing.
>>275133161Seki and Hikari are more alike than they realize. I do wonder if its a foreshadowing on what Hikari might turn into later
Do you remember how yamifags accused Hikari of ruining her friend's fluffy romcom and trying to steal her boyfriend, and that she fell in love with Yuu because she smelled another woman. Let me remind you that since that date, she has been mentoring her and helping her get closer to Yuu in every way possible, she is the worst, how can you still support her.
>>275133743So we're at this stage of the thread already, huh.
>>275133743Yami only wants what is best for Hikari. The only "betrayal" was a moment of weakness she did everything in her power to avoid. Yuu dashed these efforts and sought her out because they are soulmates.
>>275133817Moreover, it was Yuu who kissed her, she did nothing wrong.
Now I wonder if this friendship arc is gonna make the whole volume or only a part of it.
>>275134468I hope part of it, we can't have back-to-back flashbacks.
Why can Hikari be as clingy n as she was with Aya with Jun ?
>>275134554She is, she's just way more subtle about it. Remember when she met that one girl that confess to Yuu in middle school? She was nothing but a bitch to her.
>>275134923>She was nothing but a bitch to her.In her mind only.
>>275135117She was glaring at her throughout the conversation and being a bitch to her mentally is still bad.
>>275125779Seki AU route maybe in three years
>>275131568I think it was a few months later, unless Yuu was talking about someone else.
>>275134488It's all one flashback.
>>275118024Wasnt this bitch time done? Why is she still in my manga?
>>275137022No, now it's time for her and Hikari.
>>275132872look at her, she'd stand no chance against yuu's experienced dick that tamed yami
>>275118345Why does she wears her shoes like shit, every time they zoom in her shoes its always like that.
>>275132125What does that mean for the series?
>>275137183Editor meddling and fillershit if a LN serialization ever happens
If Yuu is "dusk", does that mean he's going to end up with Ayami (darkness) by the series' conclusion?
>>275137249There's 2 more girls he has to go through kek to reach the happy end
>>275118024I've thought this before, but the image of Yuu's back should be burned to Yami's brain, so it's a bit unromantic that glimpsing Hikari's neighbor's back at the sleepover didn't trigger any alarms. Kazusa would never.
>>275137228It probably won't be that bad, right?
>>275137249The girls I like always lose because nips are spineless cucks so Yami has no chance.
>>275137075It's comfy and delinquent-like. I do the same thing a lot.
>>275137249Yes, the wordplay of the names spoils the ending. Yuu (dusk) loved Hikari (light), but now he loves Yami (darkness), just like how dusk is the natural transition from day to night. Hikari will get with a new boy whose name means dawn.
>>275137417People already think these core relationship flashbacks are filler, how would they know the difference?
>>275137431That or Hikari ends the series single. And Mangadex ends up rioting.
Yami will win the Yuu bowl
>>275119775Yami will choose to sit atop a mountain of shit as long as she's in charge of it
>>275123968What are the chances yami has another edgy "I'm going to corrupt this" moment before becoming actual friends and then hurting Hikari for real? She's already done it to someone else once
>>275124771He'll just be like "why? What did I do wrong?" She'll try to explain and make things even worse
>>275127697Sarcasm aside switching to a new POV to follow the aftermath of the school festival could be interesting, either seki or yuki/haru. What does this imploding mess look like from the outside?
>>275128108Maybe Hikari & crew go to yami's place for a study session and yamimom is so impressed by what pleasant JKs her daughter is friends with she loosens up a bit>>275128226
>>275128959If only yuu knew someone else who went to that high school who he could ask
>>275131443>happiest timePoor yuu
>>275133817>what's beat for HikariAs decided by yami
>>275137075Representative of her character. Willing to out up with a poor fit out of sheer obstinance, unable to commit to a fitting pair because she prefers an easy escape
>>275138934Might possibly happen.
>>275138934Low. Unless it involves yuri rape, then sure, why not.>>275139415Hikari? Don't be a retard.
>>275139415The main flaw with this line of thought is Yuu knowing she was a dropout and had no reason to think she was going to school.
>>275122484Hikari's healing session begin
>>275141206Well, that and she might not be in Hikari's classroom. And asking Hikari about another woman would immediately invite a pile of uncomfortable questions.
>>275118395They become friends because Hikari smells Yuu's cum on Yami's clothes and is inexplicably drawn to her
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>>275141611It wouldn't be hard for Hikari to ask around, she's popular, and she'd do it without question if yuu asked her to
>>275142408>and she'd do it without question if yuu asked her toYou cannot seriously believe this.
>>275141206No, the main flaw is that Yuu doesn't want Hikari to know he is/was in love with another girl.
>>275143758We now know why: she shattered his heart into a thousand pieces.
>>275118052I like the new girl. She is cute.
>>275142572Of course she would. "Tee hee yuu asked me a for a favor! I'm going to do my best so that he sees how reliable I am" etc etc. She's such a cheerful doofus she probably wouldn't even think to ask why he wants to know
>>275122484>>275122522>>275122557>>275122598Use a proper font, you fucking weirdo.
Yam is cringe pitybait and you losers are falling for it.
>>275147438No, I hate the self-destructive pitybait aspect of her character. I love her for the beautiful girl underneath all that that connected with Yuu and healed his heart.
>>275146702Anon, you're so dense you might have a harem of your own right now without realizing it.
So…Yami went back to school technically to escape the bad atmosphere with her mom but the fact that she so easily gave up on that tells me that;s not the reason for coming to school. She wanted another white knight to come pick her up. I guarantee that if it was a boy her came up to her instead of Hikari that she’d act MUCH different.
When will flashback namek end?
>>275147623when every reader grovels on the floor, tears streaming, and begs for pitiful Yami to have her happy ending
>>275118395Hikari makes the best faces.
>>275147595kek
>>275147595>anon's thinly-veiled fetish intensifies
>>275147825I hope Hikari fights Yami, I don't care if she loses, she needs to gain her self-respect back
>>275118052I've missed this cuckquean like you wouldn't believe.
>>275137075She will trip and die and give the other girl a pity win.
Do you guys think Hikari regrets helping Yami?
>>275151468She's still frozen in a state of suspended shock at the moment.
Chapter 31Hikarifags Status: STILL SEETHING
>>275137228>Editor meddlingI can't tell if this is good or not.
I wanna cuck Hikari so bad guys, her face full of despair is just so great.
>>275153874I know the feeling. Here's hoping to more Hikari despair faces.
>Hikari fell in love with Yuu during the beginning of first year of High School>Meets Yuu's ex during classIt's like the universe is laughing at her
>>275118311Why couldn’t she be this abusive to Yuu? I wanted to see such a toxic relationship
>>275155944Watch her blushing to Hikari because she cares or something next chapter.
>>275154954Fate is clowning hard on both girls. Yami even goes "What the fuck, God?" in 13.5.
>>275156501Yeah, but the universe is clowning hard on Hikari in the past and present, don't know about the future.
>>275122876Honestly I can relate to her trying to act mature and avoiding everyone but she is just a retard teenager after all
>>275156968>clowning hard on Hikari in the past and presentHikari has "Rich people problems" or just HS problems, she just has an unrequited crush (due bad timing really) on her CF.Yami has to deal with real adult shit from her parents.She is literally alone due to those circumstances and is getting clowned by Fate making her decide between her first friend or her first love while dealing with her schizo parents.
>>275157654Hikari has absent parents and could've developed a complex from being compared to her older sister but didn't. She just isn't prone to become mentally ill.
>>275157654>She is literally alone due to those circumstancesShe's alone because she ghosted Yuu for retarded reasons and regrets it.
>>275157744Her sister didn't molest her.
>Every molested person is mentally ill
>>275158271She was never molested.
>>275122804>>275122848>>275122905>>275122848>>275122905We’re meant to feel sympathy for her?For this bitch?but in truth, she’s just a selfish individual who made poor decisions and now lashes out by hurting others’ feelings out of spite.I’m looking forward to her arc concluding so we can shift focus back to the main girl aka the best girl and the central couple.The heroine must take revenge for the treachery of her false-hearted friend.The worst part is that it’s obvious she’s going to help her shitty ass, and that’s exactly why the betrayal of this traitor will be so painful for her.And The author seems to be mimicking another story where we get the perspective of different characters.
>>275158461>We’re meant to feel sympathy for her?Yes, she comes from a broken home.
>>275159586Look at how she dresses though; what adult could resist correcting those sloppy exposed heels? Maybe she should've put her shoes on all the way if she didn't want the attention.
>>275156968>the universe is clowning hard on Hikari in the pastIn what way?
>>275160223She keeps helping people, but they keep hurting her.
>>275160591Who are "they"? Who else did she help who hurt her? And how is it about the past?
>>275160609Yuu for betraying his love for Hikari.
>>275129700wtf lol
> It was Hikari thar kept Yuu company when his girlfriend dumped and ghost him.> It was Hikari that save Yami from her self destructive way and made her happy.Why should Hikari suffer for those two retards? She is the one who didn't actually do anything wrong.
>>275161227>It was Hikari thar kept Yuu company when his girlfriend dumpedNot like she had any noble goals in mind.
>>275161239Who cares ? At least she wouldn't have date Yuu only to break his heart and ghost him. Lets be honest, she is actually way too good for a beta wimp like Yuu.
>>275161239Hikari's intentions towards Yuu have always been pure. There's a reason why Yuu's mom trusts her.
>>275161227Her crime is snoozing, and therefore losing.
>>275161370Doesn’t Hikari want Yuu to rape her or take her forcefully? Does t aren’t pure intentions.
>>275158461The heroine will have her revenge, when she wins back her crush.
>>275118052The contrast between the two is cute. But I prefer Hikari. Yami with dead eyes is creepy
What will the vol 3 cover be?Hikari smiling as she hugs annoyed Yami?That'd be true kino.
>>275118024Thanks OP
>>275161227Please understand, there are anons who think spending just about every waking moment together up through middle school is Hikari "not giving a fuck" about yuu
>>275155944What she did to yuu is way worse
>>275151468No, she gives without expecting a reward. Especially in yami's case where yaminhas literally nothing to offer but a headache and given her shitty reputation would have been easier to just write off. If anything Hikari wouldn't be surprised that it finally came back to bite her on the ass
>>275168119Romantically.
>>275168295Does this look like the face of no surprise? >>275147825
>>275162775Getting Yami's sloppy seconds
>>275164568Something with the two together for sure.
>>275164568Pretty sure Yami will only be annoyed for one more chapter and will get much friendlier afterwards so it's gonna be something along the lines of those Yom's arts with the whole group together except it's only Hikari and Yami
>>275177374If Hikari doesn't chase Yami right away, the next step is probably her showing up at Yami's house regularly to drop off school materials until she gets through to her.
>>275156501Yami is the equivalent of that stick through bike wheel meme.Hikari is the dog that says it's all fine while the house burns around him.
>>275178449What about Yuu?
>>275178449Kek>>275179024Doesn't matter, had sex
>>275179024
>>275173150Hikari isn’t a femcel, so she won’t care about that.
>>275179919You sure about that?
>>275180668Every time a woman shows interest in Yuu, she always blames the other woman.
>>275180745That's just being a woman.
>>275122876>>275122905Yuu can save her
>>275118247You just know Yom is going to make her win without her putting any effort into it.
>>275183039Besides seducing him in the first place?
>>275183394And leaving him for a year and a half
>>275183940It'd be pretty shameless to go crawling back after breaking his heart, so it's to her credit that she didn't.
>>275184857HE still loves HER. This isn't some dumb crush that you can just get over. Yami fully imprinted herself.
>>275184992That's what I'm counting on!
>>275184857>so it's to her credit that she didn't.But she did?
>>275185683An encounter she tried to avoid. If he shows up and isn't over her, that changes things.
>>275186334That doesn't change anything. She still kissed him knowing that Hikari was using the school festival to confess to him.
>>275186824It changes Yuu's position from her POV. She can't expect him to forgive her if she shows her face again after hurting him, but if they meet anyway and he still cares about her, she can't lie about her own feelings.
>>275186824And Yuu return that kiss
>>275184992>HE still loves HERWe don't know that. We don't even know what Yuu said to Yami in the room.
>>275179242At least he's not the one being cucked in this case, but I still chortled.
>>275159586>Yes, she comes from a broken home.Nah,that's not an excuse for her shitty behavior, struggles may shape a person, but they don’t justify bad behavior, mistreating others, or acting disrespectfully when others have faced worse and remained respectful.
>>275187971>>275184992>And Yuu return that kissIt seems clear that he isn’t actively responding, based on his body language. His body appears frozen, and she is the one holding onto his neck. His hands, clearly visible, remain still, making no effort to hold or touch her. This highlights his lack of involvement in the exchange.
>>275190314He's surprised on that page, but his eye is closed on the following page.
>>275190450You're just imagining things.
>>275190116Really now. Well I'm glad we can agree Hikari is a shitty unsympathetic heroine because Yuu once caught her on a bad day, then.
>>275191711>They're laughing together before the ending of the chapter...
>>275191752See what a little patience can do?
>>275191777"I'm so sad, let's try prostitution" patience.Let's fuck the first guy she meets patience.Ignore dates, let's just fuck patience.Fucking over her only living parent life patience.One year and four months of ghosting level patience.Let's ignore everything I said to my friend and fuck her over patience.Compared to... banter.
>>275191830"My stepdad tried to molest me and my mom didn't give a fuck" buys a lot of forbearance. Hikari's a normal girl with normal worries. Yami isn't so lucky and her fuckups scale accordingly. Doesn't mean she's irredeemable or undeserving of sympathy.
That meme about women and accountability is very much real and faggots like this really prove it.
>>275191830>One year and four monthsWhy not five hundred years? What's up with the random number?
There's a reason teenagers have the reputation they do.
>>275191999Are you implying all teenagers are fuckups? Most people are normal, but they don't make good story protagonists.
>>275191711Yuu was talking about another woman that wasn’t her. Her anger was completely justified.
>>275192024No, but the fuckup rate in that age range is high.
>>275191998She broke up with him in late July in their first year, and they met again in late September in their second year. So more like one year and two months, technically.
>>275191711When Hikari does it, she's being cute.
is anyone here neutral between hikari and yami? I just enjoying seeing the interactions between the guy and the girls. i dont have a preference for someone to "win" because i think both girls are interesting in their own right.
>>275193331I prefer Yami but I don't dislike Hikari and I'm okay with her winning as long as it makes a good story.
>Hikari is barely dressed in Yuu's room>Yuu still doesn't see her as a womanIt's the little subtle signs that I love so much.
>>275194509He definitely sees her as a woman, he was in love in her before. He just no longer cares as much.
>>275194509He's been having sex on the regular, her being barely dressed isn't much.
>>275194547The fact that Hikari doesn't mention Yuu taking glances at her, is what I'm talking about. That should have been an attack on Hikari's femineity.
>>275194611He fucked for months and now went a whole year without sex, plus he's still 16, that doesn't many any fucking sense.
>>275122876shes so fucking stupid
>>275195191She's a teenage girl, go easy on her
>>275190314Not like it matters, next present time chapter will be YamixYuu steamy clasroom sex
>>275193331I love seeing Hikari's faces and riling up readers, but I'm pretty neutral on which girl ultimately wins.
>>275196157Imagine if Maruto actually goes for this. It's gonna feel trashy but just imagining the outburst make me want it to happen.
>>275196312And with a panel of Hikari crying from between her legs too kek
>>275196312I can already see the "KEKED!" and "Not like this!" posts.
>>275193331I don't really care who wins the race i just enjoy the story
>>275196157hahaha
>>275195141Maybe Yuu doesn't see Hikari as a woman.
>>275192782Do men really? I guess jealousy can be cute to a degree, but it's a fine line.
When I read the chapter again I realized that yami is talking to Hikari the way she does to her mom. If you really think about it, she's had no conversations that didn't turn into a screaming argument for a full month at this point
>>275199792You don't even know how she talks to her mom, retard.
>>275199792Interesting theory. The novel TL says:>So, whenever we tried to have a proper conversation, it'd immediately spiral into a fight. But even when we stayed silent, the atmosphere was suffocating.The raw says "sugu ni gisurushi":>だから、ちょっとでも会話が続くとすぐにギスるし、だからってお互い黙っててもめっちゃ空気悪くなる。Google TL:>So, if the conversation continues for even a little while, things quickly become tense, and if we just stay quiet the atmosphere becomes really unpleasant.https://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/browse/gisu_gisu/https://nihongo-net.com/2021/10/01/onomatopoeia-gisugisu/So maybe not full-on screaming.
>>275200093Missed the part where yami talks at length about why she went back to school, I see. Understandable, it's only half the chapter
>>275198439He did, according to the Yami chapters.
>>275201167and it's no fucking surprise, as you can see by yami's social skills in this chapter or any later chapter where she puts a "mature" air and acts like a better-than-you know-it-all
>>275118024>Hey I'm going through some serious family issues so is it ok if we keep our relationship private until further notice?>Sure!!!Was it that hard?
>>275202341Oh yeah? And where does that half describe the way Yami talks to her mom? Does it say she shouts at her? Or maybe does it say she is being passive-agressive?
why so much hikari cope today? are MDcucks raiding us?
>>275203902Yami lost her standing thanks to last chapter
>>275203794Based speedreader
>>275203653Her mom's freakouts got the police called on their house during the divorce. This would be hard for anyone who wasn't a saint.
What would Hikari's reaction be if she finds out that Yuu and Yami had steamy hot sex multiple times?
>>275203679She'd still feel guilty about having a supportive man after removing her mom's man. The point was to level with her mom. Except making up is still really hard when both sides are miserable and resent each other.
>>275203902It's the same faggot baiting by being retarded again.
>>275204794
>every opinion I don't like was written by a schizo or raiders
>>275205121Doesn't seem like his usual MO desu.
>>275204794Honestly, if Hikari can get over the initial gag reflex, process everything, decide she still wants Ta-kun, AND if Yuu's still undecided, she has a decent opening for a comeback. Yami is triple-hobbled by guilt now and always sucked at putting her love into words, so she'd need a big mental breakthrough to keep coming after him if the kiss doesn't do it.
>>275206138I can see it now, Yami about to finally confess, only for Hikari to make a small noise outside.
>>275206256>double confession cockblockWelp, fair's fair.
>>275206325>cross-cockblockN-No homo
>>275205122Don’t be mean v
>>275201167Nice
>900 seconds later>passes going up in priceMotherfuckers.
>>275158461i hope hikari gets traumatized and becomes a lesbian just to spite annoying niggas like you
>>275126646suken cost
not really much of a chapter desu
i like Hikari but i hate her fans holy shit what a whinny bunchkinda wishing for Hikari to lose even harder just to piss them off even more
>>275196512KEK
>>275209903Hikari will win because Yuu and her are tied to the red string of fate
Can we have threads everyday? Mangadex users are so retarded, that whenever I try discussing the story with them, it feels like they read an entirely different story.
>>275210697Isekai/reincarnation when?
>>275211524We've got some dedicated necromancers, but we're pretty talked out.
>>275211524>nooooo yami dindu nuffinyou will fit right in
>>275211524we used to have 24/7 thread but then people suddenly stopped making them anymorelast time I checked we went almost 2 weeks without any threads for no apparent reason
>>275213018Should we bring them back?
>>275213018It's mostly one fag who makes them and keeps them stocked with bait. Sometimes he makes a new one, and sometimes he gives it a rest. I have to credit his dedication, if nothing else, because keeping these bumped without organic conversation can get tiring. If you want threads, you too can make them. But it's perfectly normal for people to take breaks and do something else between chapter releases.
>>275213018>for no apparent reasonwhat is there to talk about that hasn't been said a dozen times?the daily threads were cool when the WN chapters were being translated, at least there were new details every day.now it's only every time a chapter is released, I think that's fine.
>>275211524>Mangadex users are so retarded, that whenever I try discussing the story with them, it feels like they read an entirely different storyI thought you were just joking, but holy fuck, they really hate Yuu for not being a complete and utter dumbass that confess to a girl that was going to reject him, and act confuse on why he didn't confess.
>>275214793MD users and intelligence is not a popular pairing, I'm afraid.
>>275214793>people reading romance are clueless about romanceReally makes you think
>>275213865>what is there to talk about that hasn't been said a dozen times?What the next chapter would be about?
>>275217399Flashback with shit we already either knew or deduced already and is almost set in stone. As one thing that people suggested here before that might happen:>At some point Yami might unblock Yuu and contact him to talk about Hikari.But this doesn't change much, and what's there to talk beyond that? Without Yuu's POV or going back to the present to see how things unfold this is pointless. The manga feels like it's stalling right now.
>>275217892>Without Yuu's POV or going back to the present to see how things unfold this is pointless.Yuu would never be a POV, he would spill too much of the story. At best, I can maybe see him have two arcs, one in middle school with Hikari, and one when he's dating Yami. To show the contrast between the two of them.>The manga feels like it's stalling right now.It really does; we should have gotten back to the present already. I just hope the friendship between Hikari and Yami will be worth continuing the flashback.
>>275218007Continuing the story or having Yuu POV in the story serves the same function. If the story just continues we eventually find out who's he gonna get with. If we get his POV we get the answer and the story doesn't need to go for long after that since we have a good idea of the answer and it's mostly gonna be the aftermath of the what happened in the present. It's just two different ways of telling the same story.Doing both would be retarded.
>>275217892>>275218007A triangle has three edges. Just as Hikari and Yami's relationships with Yuu both needed to be portrayed onscreen to give them equal life, so too does the bond between Yami and Hikari so that its breakage has equal weight. Functionally it's all one continuous flashback anyway.
>>275218433The problem is that Yami's flashback was already stalling. And if the extra chapters count they already touched on what's going to be in these next chapters. They're now nothing more than exposition dumps.
>>275218502>The problem is that Yami's flashback was already stalling.Oh, you're one of THOSE people.
>>275218502>The problem is that Yami's flashback was already stalling>stallingWhat the fuck are you talking about? It was like 100 pages in the span of which Yami got together with Yuu, drastically changed her family situation, and broke with Yuu.
>>275218530Hitting the same emotional keys over and over isn't good writing anon.
>>275218576I'm glad we agree the first 20 chapters were a waste of time, then. Who needs to know about Hikari's daily life, really?
>>275218662They suffer from the same issue the later parts too: lots of exposition, little action or progression, character stagnates for most of it. The interesting part of Hikari's chapters are condensed in those chapters where she finds out Yuu tried applying to her school and they're forced to have a talk in the present instead of having Hikari way deep inside her head.
>>275218706 (Me)her own head*
>>275218706Is this the fabled speedwatching Tiktok generation?First, Hikari's chapters were designed to lull readers into a comfy state before springing the twist on them. You're speaking with the benefit of hindsight of the central twist, yet overlooking how much of the impact was thanks to the slow, sneaky leadup. Second, spending time with Hikari gets readers familiar with and attached to the character, while gradually expanding the cast and the background info on her relationship with Ta-kun at a natural pace. Sure, there are some one-off comedy filler chapters in there, but those again serve to lull the reader (plus, well, they're funny).Yami's chapters don't have to fakeout the reader anymore, but they're critical for establishing her character and relationship with Yuu, and why the twist happened. Like >>275218552 says, we got how they met, what their relationship was like and its issues, and how she ended up fumbling it.Hikari befriending Yami has fewer mysteries left to reveal, so I can see how it doesn't give as much speculation fodder, but it's still important for fleshing out their friendship and showing how it helped Yami recover from the breakup. We'll probably also get some nice dramatic irony whenever they talk about their crushes without realizing it's the same guy.I think the slow release schedule is driving people batty and making them forget that good storytelling calls for more than a highlight reel. It's like the usual disparity between reading weekly versus in volume form, except even moreso since this is ~10 pages per two weeks.
>275219702>t. I'm retarded, and Reddit spacing, and shameless bumping from page 10Go bait shit elsewhere.
>>275219733Good argument.
>>275219744I would attempt to argue with you in good faith, Mr. GennArc, but the fact that you deliberately waited for the thread to hit page 10 is too on the nose that you just want to argue for the sake of arguing making it pointless. You literally don't care about what's being argued or understand why other people think this isn't good and are still reading it to shit on it because this might as well be the next KanoKari/DomeKano.Oh, and "fleshing out" is such a fucking reddit expression I find it hard to even finish reading what you wrote.
>>275219702>but it's still important for fleshing out their friendship and showing how it helped Yami recover from the breakup.I want to know how deep their friendship becomes and if its brittle enough to be broken up by loving the same person>We'll probably also get some nice dramatic irony whenever they talk about their crushes without realizing it's the same guy.I hope we do get a chapter of Hikari realizing that all of Yami's sexual experience were with Yuu. I need to see how she would react to that.
>>275219702there is skill in show don't tell, and it's not at all what's happening here. generations of LN adaptors have gotten really good at this, especially in the isekai era where you need to illustrate the overly long ramblings of an amateur like this, which the author clearly is given how used to VN writing he's gotten. it's definitely not akame or mato seihei. the webcomic is clearly an afterthought to him.look at >>275118373. I already read the wn why should I be staring at it again in unwieldy speech bubbles? is this good storytelling to you? even disregarding the backstory-heavy flow which is like the number one hack move to me. it does not progress or advance the story, which arguably makes it its own antithesis.
>>275219914Sorry, I'm not your MD nemesis. And it simply took me that long to type out; embarrassing, I know. All it means is you get a tl;dr bump instead of another content-free bump. See you in the morning.>>275220000The format is ~10 pages every 2 weeks, and people are pulling their hair out even WITH the shortcut infodumps. They're not ideal, but he picked his cutoff for who to spend screentime on.
>>275220000>I already read the wn why should I be staring at it again in unwieldy speech bubbles? is this good storytelling to you?I wouldn't read both the WN and the manga and complain that they repeat one another. The manga is a self-sufficient work drawn by another person, and blaming it for being speech-bubble-heavy is imposing some weird standards on how the work should be composed - and this work just so happens to be something that is considered manga due to the fact that it contains illustrations.>it does not progress or advance the storyThat's another weird standard out of nowhere
>>275220000>the webcomic is clearly an afterthought to himAnd that's good because comic is such a poor format for storytelling. Sadly they have to draw it because zoomies can't read anything longer than six sentences, and start complaining every time there is more than six text bubbles on a page.
>>275220285the only reason the artist has to do that is because it wants to keep up with the timeline of the wn's chapter releases. it is a problem they made for themselves and exclusively to them.>>275220400that's a common quote on storytelling and pacing. describe the scene or advance the plot.why the fuck should the webcomic have walls of text shoved in if the people that read it don't want walls of text? it's barely even self-sufficient in how many found the plot twist to be unsatisfying. I don't understand why you have to defend this. I don't understand why every thread has to get super defensive when any sort of (constructive) criticism is thrown its way, not even to you ie. parasocially, as if their ego is attached at the hip to every slop they read. this isn't even an attack on the story itself. weeaboos are so god damn fragile.
>>275221079 (me)I'm not the guy you called the tick tock generation or something, btw. I didn't even read his post, just yours. maybe that's why you're all on a hair trigger.
>>275221079>why do you guys voice disagreement with opinions you disagree with?Yeah, what a mystery.
>>275221079Because most people defending this slop are people who would gladly ride Maruto's dick if they could. The man can do no wrong because he wrote something good (arguable) in the past and that's about it.
>>275217892>Flashback with shit we already either knew or deduced already and is almost set in stoneIt will make sense for this arc to end with showing what Yuu and Yami were talking about before Hikari saw them. It's gonna be something we deduced already but why is that an issue?
Shiho avatarbro, you ain't being subtle
>>275221135you mean this level of snark is normal for you? you sound like hell to be around, woman.
>>275221079>that's a common quote on storytelling and pacing. describe the scene or advance the plotProvide the source for the quote please, because I am sure the quote did not imply "advance the plot" as strictly advancing the timeline towards the future.>why the fuck should the webcomic have walls of text shoved in if the people that read it don't want walls of text?Then they should've dropped out by chapter 9, because it was no less wordy in chapter 1 compared to >>275118373.>it's barely even self-sufficient in how many found the plot twist to be unsatisfyingThe beginning of this sentence has nothing to do with its ending. The twist was set out to alienate the majority of its audience, because the majority were expecting this story to be fluffykino. Everyone understood the twist, everyone reacted accordingly.>any sort of (constructive) criticismI am impressed by the lack of self-awareness in this statement.>>275221087>I'm not the guy you called the tick tock generation or something, btwAnd I am not the guy who called anyone the tick tock generation. I am a guy who's gonna call you a tourist though.
>>275220285>The format is ~10 pages every 2 weeks, and people are pulling their hair out even WITH the shortcut infodumps.Should have just make it into a weekly manga. The two-week waiting period is what is killing the momentum.
>>275222376yes, the example is hyperbole. good job sherlock, you figured out what a normal person would've inferred the really hard way. bet you must feel really great having deciphered that mystery, you massive autist. I prefaced my argument with as much qualifiers as possible knowing your kind and you still disappoint.>it was no less wordy in chapter 1both issues are mutually exclusive. the adaptation forces a massive amounts of words and it's still not enough to convey meaning. part of it is the length which less you niggers better cope about it, but it's also twitter artists lacking any real sense of portraying anything other than meme reaction faces.>has nothing to do with each otherthat's because you misconstrued my argument. no shit you'd be confused.the twist would be satisfying, like it was for you presumably, if they understood what the story was getting at.>Everyone understood the twistwow really? news to me. wouldn't make it any more satisfying for them.>I am a guy who's gonna call you a tourist though.for having diverse interests I assume. I'm trying my best to avoid a dick measuring contest with someone I deem so far beneath me but by your usage of the tourist catchphrase you really should not be playing that card. glad to see that you're just always this antisocial and for no good reason either.
>>275223696the length which lets you*
>>275218433>Functionally it's all one continuous flashback anyway.Well, we have more flashbacks than present now
>>275225255True, everyone knows 10 > 21
>>275223696>and it's still not enough to convey meaning>if they understood what the story was getting at.That's a you problem if you don't understand words and letters. "They" understood the story and what it was getting at, most of "them" did the smart thing once they saw that they will not enjoy the direction the story is taking and dropped the manga.>wouldn't make it any more satisfying for them.Why do you care so much about "them"? Is your "constructive criticism" in that an artistic work must be universally understood and liked?>I'm trying my best to avoid a dick measuring contest with someoneRight>for having diverse interests I assume>I deem so far beneath>weeaboos are so god damn fragileYou sought this place to cast pearls before swine, you're certainly not above anyone else here, tourist.>glad to see that you're just always this antisocialStones in a glasshouse, man.
>>275225737the meaning conveyed is not to be as surface level as the twist itself but why it should've happened. it should be super obvious that something's off even from chapter 1 (maybe not in the tl) of wn, and that had not been translated into the adaptation.there, hope that's good enough for your autism. please learn some common sense before you go trying this argue thing again.>you're certainly not above anyone else hereright now I'm thinking you didn't even read the wn. you are below discord scum, which I had assumed from your verbiage. you're probably only here for the lol cuckqueaning from the ebin cuckqueen author and the reason this argument is a life or death battle for the safety of your ego is because this is one of those fetish generals like the one for siscon brocon or u149 or koibumi where people congregate in the threads less for the work itself and more for the community of your specific preference of degenerates.
>>275226033>it should be super obvious that something's off even from chapter 1If you're one of those "we must be able to guess the murderer's identity from the very first word" autists, we had "something's off" hints peppered throughout the first 20 chapters starting from the very title.>discord scum>you're probably only here for the lol cuckqueaning from the ebin cuckqueen author and the reason this argument is a life or death battle for the safety of your ego is because this is one of those fetish generals like the one for siscon brocon or u149 or koibumi where people congregate in the threads less for the work itself and more for the community of your specific preference of degenerates.Will you please stop projecting? Anon that's embarrassing
>>275226033>it should be super obvious that something's off even from chapter 1 (maybe not in the tl) of wnNo, it shouldn't. It wasn't. This is a fact. Before you mention the title being a huge tell you can't rely on that, take the Kuroiwa Medaka series that's airing right now and look at the title, are you supposed to take that at face value and assume Mona is gonna lose?Second part of your post is right. People ITT are here because this series is either their retarded fetish or because shitposting on people with this type of cuck fetish is juicy.
Thread is so dead it's being raided by mangadex tourists lmao
>>275227125More like half of the MD threads are 4chan tourists, some who even made new accounts and only posted in Saranami threads.
>>275227147Did they upset you my boy? Came here to complain?
>>275227176There are complaints of raiders invading their safespace in only one of the two sites.
>>275222982Well, yes, but it would've been a bigger ask of Yom's (presumably back-then) unpaid time. They did go weekly for a while leading up to the twist, albeit with shorter chapters, but then slowed down again.
>>275227476So where did they hurt you so much that you come here whining?
>>275203902I think we owe this man an apology.
>>275214793A reminder that the original readership on MD was only following this series for drama-free fluff and sugar. Of course they lack critical thinking skills and felt betrayed when the series did a 180° and dabbed on them.
I like Yami because she's relatable.
>>275227843Oddly, that indicates >>275218706 isn't an OG reader since he doesn't even see part 1's appeal, and admitted in >>275219914 that he's just in it for the hateread social experience.
>>275228083It seems "being relatable" is a cornerstone in Reiwa romcom nowadays. I swear the amount of times I've thought "it hits close home" when reading romcom has increased five-fold since 2019.
>>275228431I think loser protags were already common, so I guess you mean something else by relatable?
>>275229774Yeah. Yami's case could totally happen in real life. Yuu's is also a rare case of a teenager MC with a healthy, active sexual life. He sees consent from a girl and he's up to the task instead of running away screaming like a faggot.
>>275229980I'm impressed he recognized when she was faking interest and couldn't get it up, but maybe she just sucked at acting at the time. Right now he's 1:1 for perception rolls, since he didn't catch that she was about to reluctantly break up with him. I'm interested to see if he sees through a lie again when they're talking in the classroom, which could explain her slap.
>>275226593there is literally no other reason why basic bitch manga and seasonal anime not jump get constant threads, and the shit I like don't. you have no reason to call it projection, and you make no attempt to prove it. retards at reasoning like you who devalue the meaning of the word projection just to win an argument in complete bad faith ruin any discussion you partake in. you embody every form of cancer I despise and thus I see no reason why you're not what I claim you to be.>>275226755I'm basing this off the chapter 1 WN, which already gives us a lot to work with. again I don't know how well the english TL captured this, but it's super obvious, at least to someone who's read a lot of these, that the mc has this weird way of.. dealing with her that you don't see in any other story, even non-osananajimi strangers. he's neither annoyed nor engaged with his time with her. the story makes it super clear that he does not necessarily enjoy her presence yet tolerates it.all the affection shown is one-sided, which is common in romance of this subgenre but that itself does often make it too subtle to spot for the average reader, who then chalks it up to being the passive mc with no personality.they do, and it's all there if you look for it. he acts extremely out of character, and breaks many invariants of the genre such that you can't really chalk it up to being some special snowflake personality the author's doing for variety.>>275227125it'd be hilarious if you were referring to me (you're too pussy to admit to it) because I've never even been on the md page once. I got the note link from /a/ and fucked off.looks like they live rent free in your heads. you can't seem to take criticism that well
>>275227843No one fucking cares
>>275231186 (me)>basic bitch manga and seasonal anime not jumprefering to the fetish franchises of course
>>275231186Wow, anon! You're so smart! You figured it out right away unlike the thousands of readers who set their eyes on this and never suspected a thing! Nobody gave a fuck about this story before, face it. If something was obviously off the notes pages would've had at least one comment about.
>>275231361they hadn't not "suspected" it, they just found no reason to talk about it. they weren't going to schizo out while there's a chance they'd be wrong on it, especially if they would've wanted it to not go down that path to begin with.basic human empathy would've told you what I just wrote. feel bad about your autism now?
>>275231446Nobody gave rat ass about any of the "flags"
>>275231186Weren't you the guy arguing that the twist wasn't telegraphed ENOUGH and was too hard for people to follow? Not sure how the two sides switched around mid-argument.
>>275231490these aren't bullshit otakuisms like """flags""", it's about the genre and the tropes contained within. the mc fits none of the common tropes of romcoms. I will admit you will not find this level of subtelty in analysis on tvtropes, but you don't need to. it's about the vibe you'd get from him.this doesn't have to imply cuckoldry either. it could just be there's some drama between them they need to resolve / she needs to fix him for and then she gets her happy ending. it wouldn't be to the tastes of this MD reader bogeyman being thrown around, but at least readers would be informed of it enough to not feel bait and switched (and for anons itt to feel hated and insulted)>>275231635I had an gut feeling someone was going to lose track of the argument, which is why I helpfully looped back to it for you above.
>>275231714So it's a good twist that hid the clues in plain sight? What's not to like, then?
>>275231786that the manga showed none of it. but still had to fill itself with walls of text.I like yom's other work, but this ain't it. unless you view it as supplementary to the novel a la illustrations, then it's pretty nice.
>>275231843You have this weird contradictory position that Yuu is super obviously suspicious, but that the manga wasn't obvious enough about it.
>>275231925there's not enough datapoints in the manga to show this. or at least by chapter one. it goes beyond being observant and into schizo territory if you sussed that out from just the comic.
>>275231843>I like yom's other workAnd this clown with an absolute plebbit taste was going on about discord scum.
>>275232015btw, the lack of datapoints being given is the issue here. again, the artist is not very good at show don't tell, ie. layering meaning within the art itself.>>275232263seethe. there was nothing wrong with it. save for not having your fetish maybe. just be glad I even gave your slop a chance, the same way I do dozens of isekai. your stupid fakeout with premature ejaculation leading into flashback namek is nothing extraordinary
>>275232015A good twist shouldn't be obvious beforehand. Recontextualizing clues that seemed innocuous before is what a good twist does.
where can i read the light novel?
>>275232543A good twist should be felt at some point before it comes, but better if you're not sure what it's gonna be.
>>275232339Kek, this fucking guy really thinks he's gracing a piece of media with his audience.
>>275232543as you say, a good twist should hide in plain sight. the problem is that the manga drops no clues. the best you can say about the characterization of the mc in that is it fits the twist.>>275232702congrats, you got the joke. fucking retard jesus christ
>>275232598The awkward conversation at the diner and the messy festival invitation were pretty big signs of something being off.
>>275232794>Joke's on them, I was just pretending
>>275231186>retards at reasoning>the shit I like don't>you embody every form of cancer I despise and thus I see no reason why you're not what I claim you to beSorry, but solipsism is not reasoning, it is mental illness.>win an argument in complete bad faith ruin any discussion you partake in"You weebs don't submit to my CONSTRUCTIVE criticism because you're parasocially attached to the author" doesn't seem like good faith arguments to me.
>>275232982cope and seethe all you want, this is parasocial behavior. you are white knighting for an author you don't even know the sex of.
>>275233235>you are white knighting for an authorYou make no attempt to prove it, but you can try your solipsist drivel of "you are what I believe you to be" again.
>>275232576It's the webnovel, hopefully one day we get a polished-up light novel version.You can read the chapters here: https://xxddmm.neocities.org
>>275233388what do you think white knights do?
>watch, if I diss the author while laying out my dumb takes, nobody's allowed to call out my dumb takes. It's like magic!
>>275233717You're the one casting the stone, you give your definition. Unless you think "white knighting" means, "defending anything created by a human being, and so the only unshameful way of engaging with the work is to criticise it"
I'm sorry (nah) I insulted your favorite hack, anon.
Like. Magic.
>>275233482>hopefully one day we get a polished-up light novel versionThat's the announced plan, so unless things fall through somehow, we've got something to look forward to.
Yom definitely drew Hikari extra cute and chipmunky in this chapter. Felt kinda off-model, even.
I think there's still a chance that we get alternating POVs for this volume, although that might just be wishful thinking from me wanting to hear Hikari and friends' first impressions of Yami too.
>>275232860I don’t know, they felt natural for what brought them out. The mistaken assumption that Hikari and Yuu were dating, and Hikari realizing that Yuu loves her. Yuu’s desperation in deflecting seems natural
>>275240551The unusual part was how coolly he deflected the other couple's mistaken assumption without missing a beat. Although, in the novel version Hikari says "The look on his face right now, it seems like a forced smile, a mask he's putting on..."
>>275240744Yuu knows if he corrects them then what he did during middle school might come out. Of course, his dumbass friend still outed him to Hikari but you get the point. Also it could be a sore point with him.
>>275240862Yeah, but just the composure to not spill spaghetti like Hikari was unusual for an anime boy, and concerning re: his feelings for her.
>>275241081He dealt with Yami for months, and possibly thinks Yami broke up with him being immature and losing his spaghetti with her. Maybe that’s why he’s stoic for the most part.
>>275241122I get that, but >>275232860 was talking about how it was a hint for readers before the twist that he wasn't as innocent as Hikari.
>>275241346Yeah, we know that now, but at the time of the release, nobody knew the real double meaning of Yuu's reaction
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>>275242126We already had >>275228142, moran. I fucking knew this would happen.
>>275242367No, go with >>275242126
