>dude it's sooooo obvious she's in a secret romance with Eren. Do you like...not have any reading comprehension at all? Are you profoundly retarded? How did you even make it past the captcha? Holy shit, subhuman. You need to kys if you can't see how obvious it is that Eren is the father of her child!What happened to these posters? Are any of them brave enough to come forward in this thread and admit they were making posts like that?
I thought Eren's romance was with Annie?
>>275125397It was until Armin swooped in while she was in a crystal over those four years. Annie and Eren took each others virginity.
To be fair it was pretty obvious until Isayama changed the ending at the last minute
>>275125370it was the plot before isayama changed it
She was until they made him rewrite it.
>>275125447>>275125501>>2751255363 ehtards coper lmao
>>275125549You have zero media literacy
>>275125574>muh headcanon media literacy!!!lmao
>>275125549I will always be an EH truther
>>275125370>What happened to these posters?didn't the series end like 5 years ago? literally no one talks about snk anymore
>>275125370She was fucking robbed in the final arc
>>275125370I don’t know if it was romance but it was obvious that Isayama wanted to hint or tease that there was something between them.Only to go nowhere with it.Maybe it was all just for shipping bait.But the results is that Historia is a nothing character for the entire post-timeskip story. Despite having been given a lot of prominence just earlier in the story and considering how important her role as queen a should be.
>>275125370Who do you think half the salt about the ending comes from?
Regardless of whether EH was ever meant to be canon, there's no denying that Historia's subplot was left unfinished, to the point where the anime had to drop lines of dialogue and the final guidebook blatantly retconned the (still nameless and faceless) Farmer-kun into her childhood "friend". Something was dropped in Historia's storyline, whether it was due to a fear of Nip backlash re: popular pairings (see Isayama's statements on rewriting Eren as a "good guy"), removal of controversial elements (e.g. rape) for roughly the same reason, or more pedestrian paneltime constraints.As long as the giant question mark of the motivation and circumstances behind Historia's pregnancy remains unsatisfactorily resolved, you're just going to have to cope with EHfags assuming they were in the right forevermore. Enjoy your thoroughly deserved suffering.
>>275125370it was so obvious that a retcon is the only sane explanation
>>275127890The MP table talk is incredibly weird, where the intelligence they got wrong was just that the farmer is her childhood friend and they decided to have a child in the months preceding Zeke's arrival to Paradis with inspiration from Eren's declaration that he's going to do the Rumbling.
1) everything that happens after the timeskip is dogshit and should be ignored, trying to use the ending to discredit any ship is silly because the entire ending is awful and not building up on anything thematically or plotwise2) the two characters repeatedly shown to be closest to each other, to rely on each other the most, to trust each other the most and to understand each other best are obviously eren and arminwhether you think this bond should develop into romance is subjective
>>275128423>The MP table talk is incredibly weird, where the intelligence they got wrong was just that the farmer is her childhood friend Absolutely. If Historia made friends with her childhood bullies, that starkly contradicts her backstory as presented in first person perspective in the Uprising arc, as well as the obviously telegraphed parallels between her and Dykemir/Krista/Ymir. Levi's manga-only line about how she's expected to give birth months after the Rumbling doesn't align with the timing of her delivery, but the MPs are dead and no one else knows or cares? Bizarre.
look it's obvious historia was supposed to be with ymir but hacksayama couldn't find a way to keep her character around or resolve her arc in a satisfying way, so historia was dragged down with her in the enda nothing character that had one cool arc and then did nothing and didn't matter. the end.
>>275125370She looks like a man here wtf
>>275128911snk sold like hotcakes and the new recap movie came out like last month to good salesdude is set for life
my blonde ex gf who was the historia to my Eren hit me up last night out of the blue and we dry humped and made out in her Jeep down the street like teenagersbsaically uhhh im saying I wish EH happened but if I'm Eren in this analogy IRL I did the cucking TO the farmer but you can't marry a hoe Historia she'd fuck Levi or Arminu during my many Rumbles. No trust broke up. But still emotionally bpd attached/blognormiepost over I won't have a kid I'm only 26 my childhood AIG designated gookwife is now she/they so no Mikasa either. It's over Eren bros. I tried. but it's over we got farmed. irl I was as cut as Ereh. I did the hair I was epic. plz not cringe.. epic...
what if REQUIREM changes the story? Than what EHlets?
finally someone remembered the C plot. Historia having a rags to riches story, related to Frieda, details about birthing a new titan passing powers it's all Chekov bullets never fired. Cuckyama. 10 yearsyama.
>>275127890>I'm not a retarded shipping whale BUT..Stop hiding behind good characters like Floch, ehWHALE
>>275125370Just rewatched the first 3 seasons of AoT plus the OVAs. I swear they're 10/10 but Season 4 onwards completely misses the mark. Don't get me wrong, they're good but damn does it not feel like Aot anymore. I think the timeskip is why the story feels like shit. After reaching the sea, they should've had a peaceful era for Paradis with the cast more fleshed out, specifically Eren and Mikasa, only for Marley plus Alliance to invade and bomb the shit out of Paradis and Mikasa dies. Then Eren's rumbling on the world would have been 1000% more justified and satisfying.
>>275129023It might be challenging, but please do your best to engage with the textual arguments instead of the pretty pictures.
>>275125574>He changed the ending!>Someone forced him to change the ending!>Nothing about Eren is consistent in the last few chapters!!!!YOU... YOU are the ones with fucking NEGATIVE reading comprehension/media literacy. Eren was always obsessed with all of his friends, muh friends muh EMA muh EMAJCS. That was always his go-to. Especially Mikasa, that scene in 123? You got so angry when that happened I remembered. Isayama said the ending was what he wanted to do exactly for an extremely long time. Have fun with YOUR extremely deserved suffering of not understanding snk at all( a story made for teenagers) because you're subhuman shipping filth that killed discussion and everyone that isn't a piece of shit hates you dumb pigs.
>>275128945I ain't reading all that, but I'm happy for you bro, or sorry that it happened.
>>275125370Why did she even ask him about having a kid in the first place?
Animeonly didn't hate the ending.Years of "just you wait" amounted to nothing.You lost, chuds.Floch died in vain and for nothing.
>>275125370Almost every single one of them was a literal femoid that self inserted as Pissu(she was a literal YASS QUEEN westoid feminist character archetype and Mikasa was a sexist male fantasy archetype)
>>275129068post-timeskip is dogshit because eren acts nothing like himself, we don't get to see what causes or justifies this change, we get almost no chapters/episodes showing his point of view or his thoughts and when we ultimately do get the big reveal showing why he's acting the way he is, the reason is contrived shit that runs contrary to his character and doesn't even excuse all his dick moves
>>275129082Stop hiding behind Floch, closeted shipper-fag.
So this is how the SNK threads went like? I'm glad I never checked them. What a fucking cancer.
>>275129218We rabu Piku here
>>275129218nobut now everyone is bitter because we're left with a shit conclusion and loose threads
>>275129127She killed her fat abusive father, had a exotic and secret royalty name, was bi-curious and SHE SAID SHE WAS THE BADDEST BITCH IN THE WORLD LIKE MEEE. SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO KEK THE BAD BOYS CHILDHOOD LOVE INTEREST AND MUHH PANELS OF HER SECRETLY LEADING THE YEAGERISTS...PFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA>ONE MORE CHAPTER NOTHING >LOL SISSYS JUST ONE MORE CHAPTER UNTIL WE WIN.... NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!AHHHHHHHHH
>>275129277*posts extremely smug image of Shitstoria*Uhh, DOGKASA IS TRASH KILL YOURSELF YOU DON'T HAVE A BRAIN WE WILL WIN*RAISES FIST IN THE AIR*
Why does the word sissy appear a lot in the threads with popular manga? I never see outside of the extremely popular stuff.
>>275125370Is this the "Impregnated by nameless faceless childhood bully and did nothing important at all" stare?Really dead and soulless, like the thousand-cock stare
>>275129336>thousand-cock staresingle handily repopulated the island
>>275129183>hurrdurr shipping warsAll right. If you're determined to police reaction images based on romantic affiliation, let's talk about der Flochpol instead of whatever would have made sense in the story. Which pairing would have better advanced Paradisan nationalism, which was Floch's ultimate goal? If Floch had to advise muh Coordinate Ereh whom to impregnate to further islander-centrism, which girl out of the cast would he have chosen? Which woman's insemination would have furthered the ethnocentric interests of the people inside the walls?Alternately, if you think that's as stupid and irrelevant a hypothetical as I do, we can talk about whether Historia's subplot was wrapped up properly instead.
>you're just going to have to cope with EHfags assuming they were in the right forevermore. Enjoy your thoroughly deserved suffering.
I wanted to see more cool titan designs. So sad he limited himself to 7.
>no reply >page 9Baiting used to mean something.
>still no reply See you next thread maybe (spoiler: I will probably not remember to check /a/ in <2 months).
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>>275132067Laios is so cool...
Historia should've went out of more Survey Corps missions
>>275132479>t.
>>275125370Honestly I don't blame them for thinking so because Eren's obsession with Mikasa is a little too well hidden until the very last chapter. No idea what the point of that was.
>>275129023He's just stating EHfags are gonna cope. How does that make him a shipper?
>>275129218SNK threads always feel like a constant state of schizophrenia and cope. Kind of like an image board version of the Battle of Trost.
>>275125370don't get the making fun ehfags stuff since it implies the ending was good
>>275132917It does not imply that at all EHTARD
Post timeskip unironically feels like Isayama turned into a misogynist
>>275132988Always has been!
>>275125370ummmmm sweaty?? your media literacy???????anyone with any experience in the isekai genre knows the pricess always goes for the redpilled tradcel self-insert for brown turd worlders
It's kind of a shame that EH became enemy #1 in the threads. I sorta stopped participating in the threads much, and whenever I checked back in, it felt like there was a lot more vitriol, though I don't think it was ever exactly beloved.
>>275132946then what's the point?EH not happening kinda confirms that ending is shit, if anything it just further proves that EH would've been the saving grace and made a good ending
SNK is based on the book "The Eternal Champion", and the characters seem to have references to characters in the book in this way:Erekose (Protagonist) = Eren (They both swore "kill them all", and they are gonna die soon for a curse, they want be normal guys)Iolinda (Human princess) = Mikasa (They are both very jealous and both accuse the protagonist of sympathizing with the enemy, remember Annie)Ermizhad (Eldren princess... yeah her race is called Eldren and The Eternal Lover) = Historia (They are both blondes and have blue eyes, both had a sibling who had the key to unlock the ancient power of the Eldren people, remember Frieda)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_ChampionErekose reincarnates to be the savior of mankind and has dreams in which he can see his past and future lives (as the user of the coordinate can see his previous and future users). In addition he is stuck in a battle between two sides, humanity and the Eldren.The Eldren have an old power that almost destroyed the world and its ruler has decided not to use it even if that means the extinction of its species -the 145th king-He is destined to commit genocide of some kind, and at some point says "I swear I would kill them all"Erekose sounds like ErenErekose loves Ermizhad, an Eldren princess who is described as a blond woman with blue eyes.John Daker/Erekose carries the burden of remembering every incarnation he has ever had/ the coordinate.Prince Arjavh is a stand in for both the 145th king and ArminEH IS CONFIRMED
>>275133042Lmao no, delusional retardEnding being bad doesn't mean it couldn't have been worseIt always can be worse
>>275133117By the way, Erekosё was a nigger.
The series ended when Erwin died, the whole 4th season was boring.
>>275125370All of this is more believable than akshually eren was in love with Mikasa the whole time!!!!
>>275132917>>275133042>old evil Ymir ends, new Ymir beginsIt's still the symbolic conclusion and continuation of Ymir, why does Eren need to be the dad? It doesn't make the ending not shit. It doesn't invalidate or fix the shitting on Kruger's and Grisha's characterization by having them ally with mong at the very end, nor does it stop Eren from crying about Mikasa loving someone else. All it does is give Eren a child he will never meet.
>>275125370Friendly reminder that Eternal Champion fag killed himself after reading the final chapter.
>>275133117>Erekose loves Ermizhad, an Eldren princess who is described as a blond woman with blue eyes.She is also an elf
>>275133132>Ending being bad doesn't mean it couldn't have been worseThere's nothing worse than what we've got (which is EM route)>>275133227>why does Eren need to be the dad?because that's what would let him push through with the rumbling instead of becoming a wimp 80% through and giving up for no reason whatsoever, thus neither accomplishing neither your dream, objective nor sacrifices of those 80% mattering.It also completes the theme of the series where Eren and HIstoria would be better than their parents by taking up on the sins and burden and not involving their children in the dispute of their ancestors and the new generation would be born free in the world where they aren't hated for the sins of their ancestors.
>>275133602Eren's choice of partner is not even relevant to why the ending is so apocalyptically bad
>>275125370I was like this, i have never been btfo harder in my entire life, all that potential kino flushed down the toilet was crazy
>>275134211Actually it is, that's why we've got loser Eren in the end and not the Eren who goes through with rumbling like he did with declaration of war
>>275134211This. The ending was bad because the series went from SASAGEYO and SUSUME to war is bad waah waah why don't we talk it out pussy shit. It went from sheer epicness to a middle school lesson.
>>275134211Cope Eren's motivation got reduced to just being Mikasa's simp
It (and the consequences it would have on the ending) would've redeemed some things i found contrived ( ex. Armin being such a fag) or just outright gross (Grisha in any way wanting zeke to stop Eren, i get seeking penance from his son but this is basically the same as denying his whole life and that the motivations eren had *reminded* him of were any but his own). Or even some things thay are just complete nonsense (trying to make peace with a world where the equivalent of the U.N clapped and cheered for genocide - a world where little girls being eaten by dogs is one of the 'good concentration camps'). It doesnt fix the dog shit that is everything post Tybur battle but at least would've cleaned the ending up enough that i can feel like my time wasnt completely wasted on this series.
>>275125370The story was written in such a way that it was impossible to make Ereh non-retarded. He could never have impregnated Historia.
>bro, the ending was totally not retconned, it doesn't matter that the final panel of a father holding the baby was reduced to the smallest possible panel, shoved in the middle of the chapter that had nothing to do with anything since it was neither Grisha's chapter nor was Eren free during birth behind the walls
>>275134344>army pussies out as soon as they realize their enemy is human>most people: understandable >anon: BOOOO BOOOORINGI don't even hold this manga in high esteem, yet SnK is wasted on you. Clearly the most you amount to taste wise is watching Starship Troopers and other coming of age stories in fascist environments on repeat until you die.
I wish Eren's mom's ghost appeared and supported the genocide.
>>275125370I admit that I believed in EH, though not initially. I knew Historia was involved somehow in Eren's hidden plan, and was awaiting the chapter where her involvement would be revealed and explained. But the longer that was kept hidden, the more I thought it must be something significant, and I began to more seriously entertain Eren being the father. I already liked their development together during the Uprising arc, and it was certainly more interesting than most EM interactions. And when their hidden conversation was shown in chapter 130, nearly two years real time since the pregnancy reveal, my reaction was "That's it? There's got to be more." It didn't help that earlier Levi mentioned that Historia was a couple months away from giving birth, but she ends up going into labor a week later (this line is cut from the anime), which made me and others believe she lied about the timing of her pregnancy. I kept waiting to hear everything from Historia herself, especially given her past and previous character development.But after the final chapter, my worst fears were confirmed. Not that Eren wasn't the father, but that Historia had no presence or purpose the entire timeskip, accept as serve as a plot device. Her character never explored, uninvolved except sitting on her chair. And ss it turned out, the drunk MP's explanation in chapter 108 turned out to be 99% true, the only detail he got wrong was that it was Historia's idea, not Yelena's.So I guess you could say the whole thing was a cope to deal with the fact that Historia's character was reduced to a plot device and cast aside. It's the one thing I'm still upset about concerning the final arc and ending. The rest of the stuff I find bad I just laugh about now.
>>275135722>>army pussies out as soon as they realize their enemy is human>>most people: understandable>>anon: BOOOO BOOOORINGIt's actually one of the least understandable things in the finale.They just spent hundreds of decades of hating on Eldians for the crimes they did not witness but when a REAL apocalypse happens, FAR worse than anything Eldians did before and right in front of their eyes, then they suddenly have no problem seeing Eldians as "humans"?The fuck? In reality when they've realized that Eldians are powerless now, they would've massacred them all on the spot before they could gain their powers againThe hate would've been increased FAR beyond anything in the history before
>>275135722I'd rather watch a Starship Trooper reboot where the main guy's daughter played by his RL daughter is given an enlargement serum and is fighting the bugs by stepping on them barefoot
>>275135722Yeah, better to have this never heard of before theme that war (gasp) is BAD (OOOH). So mature, very catharsis, wow. How about not making the enemy human in the end, but just doing something else? How about choosing not to end your manga with delivering the most plain lesson in history?But why even consider that, when you can just feel smug about yourself.
>>275135908>In reality when they've realized that Eldians are powerless now, they would've massacred them all on the spot before they could gain their powers againYou know the best part anon, in a recent interview Isayama said that the colossals turned back to humans and the survivors killed them on the spot. Too bad he didn't have enough pages to show it.
>>275129218Lazy baitniggers who haven't come up with something new since the series ended and the five people who actually reply in earnest do not a good thread make
>>275125370Eternal Champion / AnR was the correct and logical ending.We were robbed thanks to Isayama's wife corrupting him with Disney shit.
>>275136710nah, multiple editors are more likely to have forced him to change it.I still remember this interview right after the manga ended, for nearly a year Isayama said nothing about the story while the editors kept praising the ending.
>>275136899Should have stuck with whatever he had in mind. It's always better to take the blame for your own mistakes, than to those of others. Now he has an ending he didn't even want, and people hating him for it.
>>275137023I full-heartedly agree with you anon, in the end it's his name on the cover not editors's, his legacy not theirs. But unfortunately his ego isn't really big, so I can see him breaking down if multiple people annoy him for months and months.Now that the anime is out too many people worked on that trash ending, he can no longer take back his moment of weakness.I do hope one day we'll see his original idea in a sort of "what if" from some side content, but I doubt they'll ever allow it to happen or that he has the will to do it (unless they need to milk this story even more).
>>275125370Mikasa is the worst character of all time and is only liked by white incels who fetishize incest and Asian women and ugly fat gook bitches who self-insert and wish they were hot enough to attract white guys
I want to sneak up behind Mikasa and put her in a Full-Nelson headlock, using the momentum of that position to lift her off of her feet and in the air. I'll let gravity work its magic as she kicks and squirms, foaming at the mouth as she chokes on her own drool, making gurgling suffocation noises as she desperately tries to utter "stop". Eventually she'll pass out and I'll discard her like a piece of trash.
>>275133117eren is called eren because eren yeager sounds like 'Ehrenjäger' = glory hunter
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>>275125370Isayama got intimidated into chaging the ending. The western sensibilities were too vocal and not happy about how his envisioned plot was unfolding.
>>275125370They now fanatically believe the evil editors forced Isayama to delete their ship and change the entire ending to spite themShipping is a mental illness, and the SnK ending is yet another proof of that
>>275125370Eren/Historia was obviously the original intention. During Zeke’s talk with Eren in Marley he starts talking about love and Eren thinks back to Historia asking about a baby kek
I still don't get why people got so annoyed or mocked Falco being able to fly as the Beast Titan. I felt like that was guessed quite a lot before it happened.
>IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND
EH is about as real as the Holocoast
>>275139769Didn't happen, but it should have
>>275139673Yeah it was guessed because of how predictable and hack writing it was
>>275134211Both Eren and Mikasa are at the center of why the ending's bad. Eren because actually, I was acting but this is also all predestined, but also I wanted this because it was in the book, but also I didn't know but also I'm doing it to stop the titan curse and help my friends live long lives, and all the facets of Ymir's retarded plan, and Mikasa for being part of it, and also being an abortion of a character in general.
I'm so thankful this series is over.
>>275140110Enjoy your elfslop
>>275139673It was, but it didn't make it any less dumb
>>275133166It peaked at the return to shigashina and should've ended thereEverything after the timeskip sucks ass
Kino
As long as Mikasa gets cucked, I'm for any pairing. >>275134211>>275134868I agree. The reveal of having been obsessed with Mikasa all along is just a tiny turd ornament on the shit cake. >>275136625>>275137023What a pussy.>>275139673Why was he able to control his titan form so well (especially for a skill like flying - something that humans do not intuitively know how to perform) when others took a lot of time training the use of theirs? Rubbish.
>>275140497is this real?
>>275140606probably from that requiem of butthurt fanfic manga
>>275125370You can easly cut this character from the story and nothing changes.
>kill millions>you and your entire extended family live happily ever afterwhat did isayama mean by this?
>>275140687I had many problems with the previous parts but i really liked the newest one, when they dialed down the romance and upped the stakes in the fight. Them actually sacrificing themselves would make it more heart wrenching when they lose.
>>275140932that would cut kino though
>>275141002I'll give them this, their art is way better than Isayama's scribbles. He should've really just gotten an artist.>inb4 scheduleIt's actually fairly hard to find weekly manga worse looking than AOT.
>>275133602>It also completes the theme of the series where Eren and HIstoria would be better than their parents by taking up on the sins and burden and not involving their children in the dispute of their ancestors and the new generation would be born free in the world where they aren't hated for the sins of their ancestors.This was one of my issues. The actual ending, among all of its problems, just felt so...nihilist.
My only wish is that we got to see her butt
>>275141425yes, the ending is deeply and needlessly cruel>But really, I think I could have supported almost any bullshit or asspull if it didn't feel so incredibly undeserved, undignified - pointless. Like I said, "what was the point" is a thought I had a lot in the final stretch. And I don't mean that in some pretentious, "what was the point of this series, what is is trying to say" sort of way (though that is part of it), it's really more about looking at the characters and the storyand wondering what was actually achieved. So many characters struggled, died, lived terrible lives, made huge sacrifices - and THIS is the result? Eren, the hero of humanity, fighting his old friends? The scouts divided and killing each other? THIS is what is has all been leading up to? This is what everyone died for? I don'tthink I'm asking for a happy ending, but what we got is just... it makes all the sacrifices seem so pointless in a way that feels needlessly cruel. The series was always cruel, but it also had hope. "The world is cruelbut beautiful" is the old line. Well, the world didn't feel beautiful at all in the finale. It just seemed cruel, incredibly cruel to all our heroes hard efforts amount to so much death and horror.
>>275125370I can't believe people still give a shit about AoT.
Just because you help a friend, doesnt mean he/she owns you sex
>>275125370EH not happening doesn't change the fact that farmer husband was the shittiest plot point of the whole show basically turning Historia from the only decent female character still alive in the show to a cardboard cutout (Hange was giga boring post 2 years).We might have been deluded but what we got was just garbage, also Mikasa kissing Eren's severed head remains disgusting even in context and single proof Mikasa's whole character since chapter1 is just "Im a schizophrenic psychopath from head to toes" and she never stray further from that, what a fucking horrible character.
>>275139274You're saying this while Dune is a blockbuster? More like Japanese sensibilities.
>>275141733What part of "10 years at least" don't you understand?
>>275129218>toubun threads>snk threads>shonen of the year and dbz threadsMan these threads were cancer. And I speak as a guy who watched and read both Toubun and SNK. It was impossible to have a conversation with anyone, despite everyone speaking the same language.
>>275125370Considering the shitshow that the ending turned out to be, it can't be denied that EHfags had the moral victory in the end.
>>275125370that was all me btw, and yes, you're retarded and Isayama is a cuck
>>275142253What causes this? Is it just idiotslooking to troll or are people genuinely retarded? I was surprised hiw calm discussions could be on threads that didn't include the most famous stuff.
-Freckless Ymir left Historia to Eren-Freckless asked Historia to save her and Eren said Historia saved him-Historia said to both of them and only them that she's their ally-It also doesn't help that Freckless and Eren basically look the sameWhich makes me think that either everything great Isayama wrote was on accident or it was retconned, and I don't know which is worse.
>>275142826A retcon would be better because it means there's hope that one day he'll come out and release the alternative canon when he's strapped for cash.
>>275125370The implication was pretty strong, it was just retconned and the series ended with a wet fart.
I'M NOT CRAZYHE SWITCHED THE ENDINGS!
The loyalty of the Erwinstacies was unmatched.
This bitch was the only thing post timeskip
>>275143153Has anybody done a computer modified version of the Chuck rant with the SnK text?
>>275143220There is this>>275135456
>>275141342you dont have a speck of whats called a soul
>>275143408Yeah, I meant that but voiced.
>>275143220Are you 80 years old? Who the hell says computer modified? Just say AI voice
>>275143215Still mad she wasn't a continental Ackerman, Zeke's own Mikasa.
JEAN FUCKED SHITKASA
>>275144157Jean made love to Misaka.
Cute
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>>275141103This is scene is actually a good example of how the final arc retroactively makes the rest of the story worse.Historia deciding to be true to herself, no matter the consequences? cool moment, very powerful.And the culmination for the character is... becoming a breeding sow for a the sake of a plan that did not even matter in the end.
>>275145147also not getting a single line post timeskip that wasn't a flashback
What if mikasa was raped by yeagerists
>What happened to these posters?We are here. We won, after all.
Let's not fucking pretend EH was not considered. If anything EM was more an asspull. It was always one-sided and all of a sudden Eren loved her too.
>>275146157>Let's not fucking pretend EH was not considered[Citation needed]
>>275146298Shipbait
>>275145663
>>275125397>>275125441>baitFuck off retarded EAfat(pedo) samefag
>>275146460>mistranslation
Ermina is canon
>>275146157I don't mind EM in theory, but in practice it kind of ruins Mikasa's character. She deserves better than being eternally obsessed with the dude who saved her life and that she latched on to when she had nobody else. She deserves to go back to that happy girl she was before her parents were killed.EM (maybe not inherently but certainly in the way it played out) just leaves her character stuck in an awful place. The fact that the very last pages suggest she eventually moved on doesn't really change that, for one she's still there at his grave and also the fact that we don't see that development just robs her character of any impact. She might as well be a different person in the epilogue.
KinoCuckholtfags btfo
>>275146680Even if he said "your" instead of "our," it's still shipbait
>denying that it was baited
>>275146793why is hissy holding an apple like that
characters isayama butchered the most power rankings1. eren2. christoria3. ymir4. mikasa5. levi6. zeke7. hange
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>>275146874apple=child
EHtards lost, and years later they're still coping and seething lmao
>>275125370Its a clown manga and a clown anime made by a fucking spineless retard coward.
BAcuck BTFO
>>275141425the ending felt like it didn't know whether it wanted to be optimistic or nihilistic, especially with those extra pageseren becomes a slave to fate, a slave to satisfying some weirdo ghost girl's tragic love drama fetish, and for what? the world kills itself anyway, wars never stopped, and fate just begins a cycle anew despite every attempt to go against itin the end it was less of a sacrifice and more of a mercy killing, so that eren didn't have to see that armin's optimism was entirely wrong and everything was fucked anyway
>>275147384the series overall means nothingwhich isn't great, but I could live with it if the characters themselves meant something. but they don't mean anything either. they all fought so hard, sacrified so much, endured so much pain and hardship.... for pretty much nothing. the world is virtually no better than it was at chapter 1. I guess the titan curse is gone.... yay?
>>275146157Don't forget that after the pregnancy chapter, Isayama released the spin off where Historia falls in love with Eren and it's established that they are the same.
>establish Zeke and Frieda as the Antinatalism>does not make Eren have a child to oppose it>Historia has a child because she was forced to
>>275147461
>>275125370I don't care about EH but it was obviously retconned. How do you explain shit like pic related?
>>275147767>How do you explain shit like pic related?it's not even pic relatedHow do you explain Eren telling Historia his plan for no reason whatsoever and him going schizo mode at the prospect of Historia becoming a titan when he knew the curse will be gone so Historia was never in danger?
>>275148262>him going schizo mode at the prospect of Historia becoming a titan when he knew the curse will be gone so Historia was never in danger?that's just hacksayama not actually knowing how his story will endpost-timeskip is full of situations where eren's actions make zero sense given he supposedly knows the future and considers it inevitable
>>275125370I bought into the shipping, but whether or not it was planned they definitely dropped her from the final plot despite planning something. The farmwe thing was silly.
>>275125370Her being fuckbuddies with Armin would have been more believable.
Little shingeki girls > All other shingekis
>>275125370The femoids who self-inserted as Historia and shipped EH are now reading Chainsaw Man
>>275148657Who are your favourite CSM characters? Mine are Nayuta and Asa.
>>275125370Eren did find love in the end though.
>>275148685I dont read 1735man
>>275148745That's a shame, it's fun and the characters are fun.
>>275148657Females elf insert? I thought thatw as a thing only for guys
>>275148657no need to seethe, faggot.All EH "shippers" were mostly men who did it for the plot
>>275148877>Females elf insert?What else do you think made frieren the most popular series of all time
>Trying to actually discuss or defend the incoherent nonsense mess that is the ending of AOTWho cares about ships none of it makes enough sense to even talk about logically
>>275149052Women want to be a fried up elf hag? I would rather be fern if I was a woman. That's like saying you want to be mineta when you could be Endeavor.
>>275125370I was one of those posters, but I haven't read or watched any of SnK and only absorbed information through meme osmosis so that I could shitpost.
>>275149384Based
>>275125370>>275125397>>275125441Die samefag
>>275149384you are missing outdespite me being butthurt at everything after the timeskip, I do not regret my time following the series
>>275125370I absolutely thought there was something between them but I didn't shipperpost because there was already way too much going on.
>>275147598The stakes of Zeke removing Eldian reproduction makes Eren's efforts to stop it so much more powerful if his child who isn't born yet was about to die.
>>275125370It made far more sense than Faggotren being in love with Mikasa>Mikasa and Eren scenes feel more like an annoyed younger sibling and a older sister together>Lots of extras stating Eren and Mikasa view each other as siblings or close friends>Isayama has a gorillion interviews stating he dislikes childhood friend romances and such>Isayama has interviews saying Eren sees Mikasa more as a mother figure of sorts rather than a lover>They have absolutely zero chemistryI'm sure Isayama just lied for years and planned this garbage ship. He is just that much of a genius. Meanwhile:>Historia and Eren can relate to each other>Historia has the "I'm the worst girl in the world" moment, saving Eren and trying to stop him from being a emo fag>They were interestingly close>Eren confided in her for no reason, I guess>"No!! I don't want Historia to be sacrificed!!">Starts thinking about Historia when talking to Zeke in regards to Mikasa possibly loving himIt's also retarded that Historia just got completely removed from the story. She was being built up as an important character, had the most parallels with Ymir, but no, "Remember Mikasa's plot induced headaches? Yep! Mikasa was the protagonist all along!! I'm so good at writing, just look at my masterful foreshadowing!!". Hackyama fooled us all.
Perhaps the die was cast when Mappa took over from Wit.
>>275147461>>275147674
>>275125397I would've preferred that
>>275151310Hot
>>275151310i was gaslit into thinking mikasa was ugly, she's actually pretty hot (even in her timeskip appearance)
>>275129086pajeet negroid hands typed this
>>275151668isayama did make her look worse post-timeskip, but he did with practically everyonegive her design to a different artist and no shit she goes back to being hot again, she's supposed to be hot after all
>>275151893He did draw gothkasa cute tho
>>275132933Quite sure nobody cares, but I found a full quality version of this.One thing that saddens me about how things went, is that the "comfy" art feels a lot worse, considering everything that happened. The relationship between the characters just feels strained to me (despite the fact many of them seemed fine with each other at the end)
>>275150602Isayama always planned to focus on EMA in the final chapters. The problem was he built up better characters and interactions over the course of the series, and decided to make Eren a mystery to AM who wouldn't understand him until the final chapter. So when it came time to put the focus back on the EMA relationship, it was the least interesting aspect of the series and poorly developed. Zeke and Reiner were better foils to Eren than Armin. Historia had a better and more balanced chemistry with Eren than Mikasa. Floch's fanaticism was more entertaining and appreciated than the Survey Corp sitting back and letting the situation deteriorate until it was too late.Eren having a falling out with Armin and Mikasa is fine for the story. But the way Isayama presented it did the story no favors.
>>275152291i miss when these two being cute together made me think of chapter 50 instead of 138-139
>>275152459I'll admit that I preferred EH at the time, and still do most likely, but after everything, I can certainly appreciate EM art as well. Feels better than what we got.
>>275151716Why are stinky, low IQ Indians so obsessed with Mikasa?
Pisstora got FARMED
>>275152677i liked EM back when it was originally more of an implication (with the anime going full throttle on it), and i'll freely admit i was more interested in EH during the time she was relevant - they had a fun dynamic, it was cutethen suddenly historia became less relevant again, EM becomes outright canon in the most grotesque way i can think of and i can't bring myself to like it the way i used toso really isayama pissed me off in three different ways somehow, in a weird way i can appreciate that
>>275125370I remember you from the chainsaw man thread. Crazy how they all disappeared as soon as it was confirmed the farmer was the father. Crazy how Attack on Titan head the worst manga ending I have ever seen it could have been one of the best mangas in history but the fucking Marvel movie ending and the "No I don't want that"
EM is bad because it reduces Mikasa to a permanently stuck trauma victim.Over and over, she is shown consistently to not really understand or even know Eren. She misinterprets everything he says or does constantly to the point that it's even acknowledged in-universe. Now, what does this mean? There is some room for interpretation, but to me it seems pretty clear it's because she is not actually in love with the real Eren as a person, but with some weird idea she conjured up in her head after going through a horrible experience, possibly as some coping mechanics. It reflects a very juvenily understanding of romance "this person saved my life, we must be destined for one other, my knight in shining armor", etc.I want more for Mikasa. I want her to be truly happy again and to fall in love with an actual person. Not to be this permanently broken victim, manically obsessed with the first person that saved her life.
I started following this series when the 4th released translated chapter was out. i will never forgive myself for taking an interest in it and following up until the end.
>>275153023>She misinterprets everything he says or does constantlyoh yeah that was one of the BIG things that made me hate those last few chapters, the implication that despite it being specifically pointed out that she's often wrong about what eren's thinking, she actually isn't wrong and was the one who understood him the mostthat's not romantic, that's just going against a foundational part of their relationship as a cheap way of making it seem more romantic because he couldn't squeeze in a proper arc for her
>>275153023Why do you want more for Mikasa? She doesn't deserve more. She clung to Eren (symbolized in that scarf) because she wanted to. She refused to let go even when he begged. To me this is completely in character. This is what she's been since day 1.
>>275153236no, I think she deserves more after living through so much horror and fighting hard to save countless lives
There's no chance any of you have folders and folders of SnK art sorted by author, would you? I was looking for old deleted art by a certain author, and while the archives have quite a bit in there, there are a ton of gaps.
>>275153291I feel like she symbolically threw all that away when she prioritized getting the scarf back over respecting Louise's dedication.
>>275153395Say the name of the author. Otherwise I doubt people will be able to help.
>>275152291I do care actually, thanks for art
>>275153453Nozawa Yukiko, the 100gfs artist.
>>275149135Yeah, you are a man. A woman would never want to be someone actually doing something, and failing. She wants to be the powerful sue beloved by everyone and wanted by men that she can ignore. All that on top of being a youthful elf. No descriptions can do justice to the power hunger of women.
>>275153407maybebut that sucks
>>275153395Sorry, i have a lot of art But not by author, although ask anywayBut with how many artist delete their accounts I’m not sure it matters
>>275136625>in a recent interview Isayama said that the colossals turned back to humans and the survivors killed them on the spot.Seriously? That there were seemingly no people inside the colossals was one of my biggest complaints re: Isayama shitting on his own lore and world building. (If the Founder could create millions of copies of one of the nine titans, why would Eldians use anything else for warfare?). But if true that's even dumber than having no one inside at all.
>>275153642Well, I don't know exactly what's missing, but would you happen to have a higher resolution of pic related? It was apparently posted in the threads a few times, but the image itself wasn't saved.
If it wasn't changed last minute explain why we spent so long on Eren and Historia's relationship. Like if the current ending was always the plan, what was the point? Filler?Every other part of the story had shit tons of obvious foreshadowing.
>>275153023>Not to be this permanently broken victim, manically obsessed with the first person that saved her lifeThe oneitis was real bad. Modern 4chan is ntrbrained so Eren was deemed the series cuck, but if the ending happened a decade earlier it would be nonstop jokes about Jean being the cuck because Mikasa would scream Eren's name whenever they had sex.
>>275153704>last minute>talk about developments that last happened 6+ years before the endingOk Ok
>>275153719i've always seen it as them both getting cucked honestly, one's stuck in a relationship where he'll forever the second choice to his old friend titan hitler, while the other was forced to never even put peepee in vagoo because the loli ghost wanted him to get fucked emotionally instead
>>275140870sorry flochbro but BITCHren is already taken...
>>275153681From memory I don’t think I have that pic in my folders but I can always run a search, if thread isn’t up anymore I’ll post on desuarchive of it soon
>>275153857Appreciate it man. Frankly, it's lucky there are so many out there. This one for instance is 480p only, doesn't seem to show up anywhere else. But it's better than not existing at all.
>>275153884Oh man, I clearly wasn't searching deep enough this whole time. Normally I would've moved onto the next filename before I got to _p16 in the archive. Though I'm now realizing I could just to _p* and get all the results back.
I LOVE ANNIE! (YOU) LOVE ANNIE!WE ALL LOVE ANNIE!!!
>>275153023yeah, the man Mikasa thought Eren was and loved was actually Jean, which is pretty funny.There's also that random ass sub-plot with Luis or whatever her name is that goes nowhere.Luis acts like Mikasa 2.0 and obsesses over Mikasa the same way Mikasa obsesses over Eren and then steals the scarf and acts as if that makes her closer to him, but for some reason this is seem as a negative thing but when Mikasa does it with Eren it's seem as a positive? Fucking weird
>>275154601I mean, Eden gives Mikasa the scarf. The crazy bucks just straight up steals it. That’s why the series says it’s bad, because Atleast Mikasa and Eren have a relationship as people. The other person is a stalker.
>>275154701Yeah and apparently Mikasa did not learn to be "kind" and give a little girl the scarf meanwhile she keeps claiming how kind Eren was for giving her a worthless scarf.>I mean, Eden gives Mikasa the scarfThe difference is that the scarf meant nothing to Eren meanwhile it means something to Luis>because Atleast Mikasa and Eren have a relationship as peoplewhere?>The other person is a stalkerShe acts like Mikasa
>>275139673>I still don't get why people got so annoyed or mocked Falco being able to fly as the Beast TitanSeveral reasons, as I recall:1. Prior to Falco's bird transformation reveal, there was little indication the Beast came in types other than ape (IIRC just one stylized depiction of ancient shifters).2. He was actually the Jaw rather than the Beast. Zeke was still alive, so at most, Falco should have inherited only some aspect of its abilities, like what happened with Eren or others taking serums. Instead he basically became his own version of the BT. Why?3. None of the other shifters had several titan forms (just two: mindless and shifter). Transformation wasn't a trait associated either the JT or BT. Why was he able to grow proper wings when he only had feathery arms before?4. As the other anon already said, he learned to fly and mastered his powers way too quickly.5. And lastly, we'd just gone through a bunch of ridiculous contrivances to get the Alliance onto the plane and Hange fucking died for it. Then almost instantly Falco realizes he could have flown all along, and he magically catches up to them just in time for the plane to be lost. The two plot elements felt redundant; my impression was Isayama couldn't pick between two cool ideas and forced both in to the story's detriment.
>>27515476>The difference is that the scarf meant nothing to Eren meanwhile it means something to LuisI don’t understand what you are trying to argument here. That Luis deserves the scarf because they want it? You don’t steal from other people because you like them. That’s why it’s bad.>where?I’m assuming you interpret the relationship part as a lovers relationship. That’s not what I meant.>She acts like MikasaNo Mikasa doesn’t steal things from Eren so she can have them instead.
Are we ever going to get AOT 2 with that boy and the dog?
>>275155117After this thing
Reminder that Louise actually did have a relationship of sorts with Mikasa. She was the little girl Mikasa saved in Trost and she joined the SC because Mikasa inspired her. Not saying that's at all equal to Eren and Mikasa's familial/romantic ties, but she wasn't a stranger either. At the very least, she was a comrade, and treating her like shit while she died slowly over a stolen object was pretty fucked up.Mind you, it would be more understandable if Mikasa were equally cold and vindictive toward everyone outside her friend circle, but she was surprisingly conciliatory toward Gabi who literally murdered her close friend in front of her. Maybe Isayama was trying to say something about Mikasa in that she hated the kid who was like her but loved the kid who resembled Eren, but eh. Still weird and tone-deaf writing, in my opinion.
>>275155210He’s not writing that it’s just an illustration.
>>275125441>Armin literally jerked off to the crystal for years, slowly imprinting on her with his stenchK I N OINO
>>275154601I think it's cute that both Mikasa and Jean wanted calm, stable, quiet lives and dreamt of having a family.
>>275155558Mankasa is awarded for being a psycho retard, what do you expect?
>>275155558She just didn't condone the Yaegerists, while Gabi was fine according to her. She's written consistently as someone who would betray her country and murder her most loved person over some ideological disagreement and identification with the enemy.
>>275146900Eren deserved that ending.
Would anyone happen to have the original JP cover of this? I was thinking of uploading the typeset an anon made for this, but they prefer a Japanese cover if possible. I mean, I could probably manage to get through by uploading the 2nd page or something in Japanese, but I thought I'd check.
>>275155715>MankasaI kinda forgot how masculine they made her look post timeskip. I know some people are into that sort of thing, but it's not mine
>>275125447>>275125501>>275125536Fact flood.
>>275125397Yeah
Shitposting aside, I'm still annoyed Eren and Annie never interacted once post timeskip considering how influential she was at the start.
>>275151358>>275155676>>275159610Fuck off pedocancer
Historia being written out of the last part of the story is the least of its problems, zeke and reiner getting no actual climax to their character arcs and being barely present in the ending was way more retarded and Armin and mikasa are some of the worst characters of all time in fiction. It's so unbelievably contrived how armin goes from suggesting false flag attacks and sacrificing his own life just so eren can kill one person to being a giant war is bad hippy pussy for no stated reason, Mikasa spends the entire manga being a weepy doe eyed dumb bitch shrieking about eren and willing to kill anyone to defend eren until annie the mass killing psychopath who kills bugs for fun tells her to kill eren because he's le bad AND SHE DOES.Fucking piece of shit coward isayama I owe that bastard a post taco bell visit to his faggy onsen
>>275159960EAshit never was influential. The female titan saving Armin's life had a much better effect on the plot. It led to the Cuckold's brain being squeezed out and Rainer almost getting killed.
I can respect most ships but I'll never understand Eren/annie
>>275160419>retard plebbitor posting old posts with butthurtFuck off leggitor. go back to leggit
>>275128945>>275128963>>275128979cuckuiemtard kys
>>275155770no he didnt
New official art>>275155582He did the storyboard for it
>>275160977>EAshitNot talking about shipping, though. Annie taught Eren the basics of hand to hand combat. She's literally the reason he was able to fight mindless titans in Trost instead of getting dogpiled and killed before he regained consciousness. She had a strong influence on his development in that sense, as well as being Eren's first friend to become an antagonist. It would have been more interesting to see her reaction to the consequences of helping him earlier instead of (for example) forcing a friendship with Mikasa or retconning her into buddies with JSC.
>>275161296rabu gothkasa
>>275153857Hobo Eren remains best Eren
I just can't understand why I wouldn't side with the Marleyeans. Eldia has repeatedly shown itself to be a genocidal shithole, the instant they remembered they had The Rumbling they wanted to use it.
>>275163736It's all good because cute little Ymir was in love.
>>275154601>There's also that random ass sub-plot with Luis or whatever her name is that goes nowhere.Let me tell you this, she was 100% killed in that stupid way to avoid her presence in the port battle. We don't want our little japanese self insert to do something bad, do we?
>>275154832>The two plot elements felt redundant; my impression was Isayama couldn't pick between two cool ideas and forced both in to the story's detriment.That's.. not a bad way too see it. I always found Hange's sacrificed stupid since it became dull as soon as Falco flew like a few hours later.
EM = Shit endingEH = Good endingSimple 'as
Eren has good dynamics with literally every character in the series. How is Mikasa so shit as a character she can't even have that?
Made for ryona
>>275155558>but she was surprisingly conciliatory toward Gabi who literally murdered her close friend in front of her.That's because Gabi is Mary Sue, so no one is allowed to stay angry at her for too long (only Eren and Floch, but they are bad boys). I don't want to see Sasha's parents lynch her but not even treat her like nothing happened, their initial mercy was justified but not the later indifference.As a character she works far better than a lot of the others, probably one of the few whose arc wasn't thrown in the trash.
>>275163736who are "you" in this scenario? an eldian? a marleyan? some third observer?the rumbling is awful, but it's realistically the only way for paradis to secure their independance. but marley does awful things to paradis too and unlike paradis, they have the means and the knowledge to end their awful behaviour without any negative consequences
>>275164371
>>275164374the marley kids will always be shallow plot devices and their limited use (illustrating child soldiers bad, indoctrination bad, learning paradis are just humans) should have been transfered to RBA. I just cant see how introducing these random ass kids is better than showing all these kids with more RBA flashbacks. I don't care about these new characters, especially since Marley already introduced a bunch of them. Show me how RBA infiltrated the wall. Show me how they learned that maybe Eldians are just humans. SHOW ME THESE THINGS WITH CHARACTERS WE ALREADY KNOW AND CARE ABOUT ISAYAMA YOU FUCKING HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
>Eren did not make a family>repeats the cycle
Eren x Armin has by far the best and most numerous proofs for their bond being uniquely close and powerful.Also Eren struggling to accept his homolust for Armin would be a much better explanation for him acting like a retarded cunt post time skip, would have made for a better ending.
Only self hating white liberals love this shit because it shills the idea that if you betray your people for people who hate you and want to see you dead they'll suddenly care about you and treat you like people.
Eren freed his peopleFreed from the yoke of the founder and marley Eren won.
Words don't describe the huge shit I'm going to take on Alliance and EMcucks once the true ending drops. The nuclear devastation that it'll cause will be amazing.The snake will stop eating its tail.A different story will be told.Arc of the Ashes was officialy released again by Yamamoto after The Last Attack aired on its first day.The cracked wall in the Final Season's official website will break.The Berserk Titan shown in the final opening will kill your beloved characters.And no cope from you will save you.>inb4 Isayama said this or that."I love telling lies."
>>275164420Marley is awful because they didn’t exterminate eldians despite being able to do so, instead they uses them for their own gains
>>275165634Kek that cope still existI hope Isayama makes that great Titan war prequel he had mentioned last year
>>275165649that is part of why they're awfulalong with constantly dumping titans on paradis and sending their child soldier titans to kill millions there
>>275165623and his price is dying a virgin, leaving his people to be slaughtered and to be remembered as the worst person to ever live
I still get so angry when I start to think hard about this series.So many great moments, characters, mysteries and reveals... and it all culminated in such dogshit.
Now that the dust has settled... how did she manage to go back to paradis on foot to bury eren's head ?
the whole series gets fixed if you make Eren and Armin gay for each other
>>275166528trvth nvke
>>275166528it would certainly make more sense than him liking Mikasa
There is literally a panel of Eren talking to Historia when Zeke ask him about his love life.
Still hilarious to see the usual suspects seething at EM in 2025.They'll still be mad in 2030.
Godren2 lost
>>275169834What's there to seethe at? Unironically? EM lost all it's magic thanks to the ending.
I have no strong feelings about EH because I have accepted that Historia will never get a satisfying romance as soon as Ymir got the worst ending ever.
>>275171231I like yuri but I always despised Ymir so I never wanted this one
>>275171268historia is soft and cuteymir is hard and coolclassic pairing
>>275170929Indeed, there's no reason to be angry at anything, especially with Isayama retiring from working on SnK, yet many still are!
>>275125501Yep, he was building her up and then just totally changed direction. When he decided to do it can be debated but it is something that happened.
>>275171386I wouldn't be too sure about "building up" anythinghe was also "building up" ymir and her relationship with ymir until he realised he had no idea how to not have her spoil the entire plot, so he just killed her off in the worst, most anticlimatic way everhacksayama gonna hack
>>275171495>ymir and her relationship with ymir
>>275164660You have to understand, japanese girl was popular in Japan.
>>275171514you know what I meanlol
>>275171302Yet Historia is the man in the relationship
>>275171495It's still funny how Isayama wrote in a guidebook that Ymir was going to become a key character in the story then offscreened her 10 chapters later.
>>275171756he meant founder ymirtruly 5D chess foreshadowing
The true romance was always supposed to be Misaka and Eren, but the vocal idiocy of everyone else drowned that out. Always has to be some weird rejection between the childhood friend romance trope. Really idiotic stuff I was seeing that Historia and Eren would be the OTP. Those people deserved that panel of her getting knocked up but some faceless farmer.
>>275166041THE S T I N K I E S T
>>275172557PE YEW! WOAH!
>>275172592YIKES, WOW!
it feels like ages ago
>>275172723new recap movie came out last monthsnk is eternal
>>275125370What losing an editor does to a mf... Before SnK i was always starkly against editors in general lol
>>275172848that's just sillyanyone who has ever done any creative writing will tell you an editor is immensely useful
>>275172890No. Also, don't reply to this post, I'm getting hella deja vu and I think we've been through this before.
>>275172970I have never said this beforeenjoy your schizophrenia btw if you have shit opinions, more than one person tends to disagree with you
>>275172890Sure but editorial power can vary greatly, from minor changes to full on control of the narrative. So between having one and not having one i've always leaned on the author being better off without one.>>275172970Holy schizo
>>275172463>The true romance was always supposed to be Misaka and Erenlol
>>275172970>I'm getting hella deja vu and I think we've been through this before.The familiarity is why I go whenever there's a /snk/ thread, the same posters and their writing styles, the same images, I like it, it comforts me.
>>275173048I said they're useful. Which means, they are a tool to be used by the author. No more, no less. But if you use them right, they're a good thing like 99% of the time.
>>275172993>>275173048How did you know I'm schizophrenic?
>>275172848Lost editor in chief of Besatsu*SnK's dedicated Editor is, always was, and always will be Kawakubo.
>>275173202because seeing patterns where none exist is like the most stereotypical schizo symptom
>>275173235Oh
>>275172848what too many editors >>275136899 do to mf you mean
>>275163736>Eldia has repeatedly shown itself to be a genocidal shitholeAs Kruger pointed out, the fact that Marleyans were still a distinct ethnocultural group two millennia after Eldians first conquered them indicates they weren't particularly genocidal regardless of what Marleyan propaganda claimed. There's no moral reason to support Marley over them either given modern Marleyans behaved in exactly the same way once they gained the upper hand. The real reason to side against Eldians (assuming you weren't a Subject of Ymir yourself) is that they they could be remotely manipulated through the Founding titan and turned into giant monsters, and reproducing with one guaranteed progeny with the same traits. Marley wasn't interested in eradicating the titan problem, however. They wanted to exploit it for themselves. Better to support the Turk alliance if you want a group who hadn't repeatedly made assholes of themselves (yet).
>>275172848it's a shame because SnK once had potential to become memorable, instead now it doesn't even exists anymore.
things wouldn't be like this if the Wife murder editor stuck with him
>>275125370Isayama is a retard.The grand plot twist is 2000 years stockholm syndrome? Bravo.
>>275164488>illustrating child soldiers bad, indoctrination bad, learning paradis are just humans) should have been transfered to RBA.>I just cant see how introducing these random ass kids is better than showing all these kids with more RBA flashbacks.It made some sense as a running theme in SnK was past generations failing to effect change and passing their burdens onto their children. Eren and Reiner's cohort were supposed to be the ones who finally broke the pattern, so it's kind of nice to have the next generation on hand to show the fruits of their actions. They didn't need to be main characters or get so much POV panel time post-Marley arc though. Isayama continued to push them even though Gabi and Falco consistently ranked pretty low in Nip popularity polls, even though he was generally responsive to fandom (dis)interest. I blame girlboss brainrot.>you now remember fucking Arya Stark was his main inspiration for GabiAnd of course, Isayama ended up shitting the bed on the theme of generational change and protecting children since Gabi and Falco were essential to the final battle. Child soldiers were shown to be indispensable and ultimately necessary. "We've got ter get the children outta the ferrest", my ass. Peak midwittery.
>>275173202I AM INSIDE YOUR WALLS PUTTING THE BUGS UNDER YOUR SKIN
>>275172557haven't seen this in a while, guess ''foot'' worked like a trigger word
>>275177343No, just a mikasa art
>>275172463It's not rejecting the childhood lovers trope, it's rejecting adopted incest, obsessive clinginess and necrophilia
>>275169834They had to tack this noncanon fluff on because they knew EMfags are mentally to fragile not to rope if they didn't. You still have people in denial that she got married and had a kid with someone else.
>>275125370white nationalists liked the manga too much so jews had to step in and force isayama to change the ending
>>275128535>develop into romancetheyre both boys
>>275177766WHOA, SMELLY
ewww mikasa's body is all bumpy and hard
>>275125370The self inserting spics? They probably jumped to chainsawman or whatever is the "mature" shonenslop that's popular at the moment
>>275179928If i were a girl i'd wanna scissor with mikasa
>>275178364gay people exist
>>275180899STINKY WOW
>>275182190
>>275182267PEEYEW, WHOA!
Is Hisu's plot thread the ultimate "fuck you" to lesbians?
>>275182370no because ymir's death is so utterly arbitrary it's completely meaningless. her and hisu not being together means nothing. an anvil falling on her head would have been more significant
It's Hisu's birthday iirc
>>275183307A toast to my favorite worst girl, who had been done so dirty.
>>275183307Right, Happy birthday hisu, couldn't find much new art
>>275183307She deserves better and I could have fixed her.
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>>275183489Ereh fucked THAT?!
>>275163736If the show was told from the perspective of the Marleyans then I'd agree, but we spent 3 seasons on Paradis getting to know and love its denizens and watching them suffer in every way possible. Not even the stereotypical, generic pompous rich bastards were spared from the misery.And then the fourth season comes and all those deaths meant nothing.
>>275183307she deserved better
>>275183713I'm not talking about these guys btw. But whatever happened to them?
>>275183913You don't wanna know, trust me
>>275183913shit machine'd presumably
>>275183966I'd put mikasa in it
>>275183307Happy Birthday to the worst girl in the world.
>>275182370controversial opinion here, i did NOT care for ymir all that muchhisu became infinitely cuter when she wasn't stuck interacting with her
>>275182370It was pretty brutal. All those theories that Reiner would keep his promise, that Porco or Falco would inherit her memories, that Historia was coerced and wasn't in love, etc. went out the window. I still can't believe he brought Dykemir's ghost back just to wank Armin and didn't even give a crumb of fanservice. Did the yurifags not buy enough merch? What was his problem?
>>275155117I hope so, I can’t think of why Hacksayama would include that teaser at the end otherwise. He must want to leave some room to make a sequel for when he feels like it. Would the boy fuse with the dog?
>>275184294>Porco or Falco would inherit her memorieslel wut
Well, do you rike Arumin now, /snk/?
>>275184404The idea came up pretty much as soon as Porco was introduced.https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/porco%20historia/start/2017-06-01/order/asc/To be entirely fair, he was a waste of a character in the end, so that might have been more interesting.
>>275184488I will never like him
>Being an EH fag on final chapter release dayKek, that was something
>>275125370I liked that crackship before it got popular. Still do, JM too.
>>275184404He's a degenerate and should die, Annie loves her daddy, not him.
>>275184666Sorry, meant for >>275184488
>>275184294I mean, seeing and interaction between her and Zeke (the last members of the royal family) would have been interisting.Imagine his face as soon as he saw that belly and her disgusted face towards the one who proposed the idea of her kids eating her.
I did not care for Attack on TitanIt insists upon itself
>>275184561Wow… Seeing all the hype and theorycrafting about Historia’s future in the plot has made me depressed…
FUCK MIKASA, she ruined this series along with Ymir.
>>275125370I love to read old posts written by those SnKek schizos. Their pseudo-elite mental gymnastics and eventual mental breakdown after the final chapter got released are always amusing to read.
>>275184730Antinatalist Zeke was peak shitposting and I'll be disappointed forever that Isayama didn't give us more material by having him interact with a mother to be. Imagine if Historia were the one who TnJ'd him instead. Alternately, have Zeke observe Carla in paths since Isayama also did nothing with her in the ending.
>>275185028Which Ymir?
>>275185028>FUCK MIKASAGladly
>>275186106certainly not the irrelevant dyke
>>275125370seethe as much as you want. even a retard wouldn't deny that she was supposed to have some kind of importance to the plot and it got completely scrapped. don't claim that it was heckin ebin green eyes on the child but it could have been, or not. there's no telling what was changed, but the fact that it was changed is definitely not up to debate.
>>275186563That’s not up for debate - it’s substantiated in author interviews from ~2013 saying she and ymir would have central roles to SnK’s story, but there’s a case to be made that he gave up on her sooner rather than later after Royal government/uprising arc
I get legitimately annoyed when people say things like >Historia was a side character who gained relevance, it's fine that went back to being a side characterWhile I understand every character can't be super relevant, being one of the stars of her own arc should give her a bit more status than Connie I feel. If >>275145429 is correct, then it's just so egregious.
>>275185709Speaking of Zeke interactions, remember when Connie vowed revenge against the beast titan for what he did to his village?
>>275187114At least his mother went back to being human. Small victories.
I come forward. It was me I posted the trvth.The manga was wrongThe author was wrongI keep moving forward even if I die. even after I die.
>>275186228Those old Mikasa arts with her pantyline showing are such a happy memory
>>275187102>If >>275145429 is correctIt is. She doesn't speak to Farmer. She doesn't get any lines while in labour. Even her appearance in the final chapter's epilogue is Armin's narration. She got a decent amount of net panel time compared to actual side characters, but it was almost all flashbacks and it was the lowest out of the main cast.
>>275187114DAHAHA
>>275187386Cuckren
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>>275183307A toast for her!
I came across a fully translated and typeset short oneshot when I was looking for art. As far as I can tell, it never reached outside the thread it all happened in. Maybe one other thread, I don't remember. Thanks for whichever anon(s) worked on this, if you happen to be here.https://mangadex.org/chapter/b369f502-a2bd-46b3-af9e-4332c81b3a2d>>275187444They were surprisingly common, not that I minded. Was there a specific reason it was such a thing?
>>275125370>What happened to these posters?They probably moved to a different series to spread their schizophrenia among its fans.>Are any of them brave enough to come forward in this thread and admit they were making posts like that?You expect those pussies to do it? Those people who acted like elite snobs after overthinking a manga that was never that deep (t. someone who's been reading it before the anime dropped)? The same people who revealed their true nature of retarded manchildren once their delusional vision wasn't confirmed in the final chapter? Anon, don't be naive. That kind of people never admit anything, especially their own clownery.
>>275125370>What happened to these posters?the author fucked up the series so fucking badly that no body gives a shit about any theories
>>275187875So fucking true. At least they shut their asses and began crying elsewhere, so AoT discussions can be more civil. "Yams genius, AoT peak" mixed with refined words to make their schizo theories look better, and after many years of doing it - turning right into speaking Ebonics about how the manga has always been shit and whatever. These ways of discussing and interacting with other people are even below typical weeb-tier.
>>275187840Well the logic was probably "How do we make women wearing clothes that show no skin sexy" so they prioritize the butt and the fact that they're probably wearing underwear
>>275125501>she touched my hand! that means she wants to fuck!
>>275125370What's with the japs and their love for shit endings ti kino stories?
>>275188497SnKeks have always been social outcasts.
>>275189406I won't say it's not a pattern for long manga to end badly, but all the mainstream Japanese audience cared about was veteran trio, EMAJSC, and shipping fanservice. Isayama arguably gave them the ending they wanted, more or less.
>>275188497EH was based on more than just hand holding
I still don't quite get what Isayama was going for with Eren. Like, surely he was meant to be shown in the wrong, but circumstances as they were, it really didn't feel like it. Maybe there's an argument that even if he had rumbled the whole world, instead of most, Eldia would've destroyed itself anyway. Perhaps if he had seen that, and still decided on doing what he did, it would've felt easier to root against him. As-is, I feel like people were against the Jaegerists because the narrative wanted it to be that way. As well as parallels between real world genocides and this theoretical one, even if the situations are different.
>>275191938Oh you know, I never watched the anime past the first season or so, I didn't realize they made this change with the buildings. ~100~ years versus, say ~500~ years does make a bit of a difference in how the ending is interpreted. Though you could argue that all it's saying is "a little bit of genocide is alright"
Isayama's an autist but I still believe EH was intentionally baited. Nips didn't pick up on it but that doesn't mean he didn't want them to.
>>275192038>pic Oh wow. I never watched the final final season part whatever either. That's a massive difference and more proof the adaptation had carefully considered damage control. I wonder if it was due to domestic criticism. I'm not sure if it's better; at least this way their distant descendants would be the ones glassed instead of their grandchildren. I guess a few centuries' difference could imply that the conflict that destroyed Paradis was unrelated to the Rumbling or the Eldia-Marley conflict. But then we're back to Armin and co. pulling off a peace plan that really should not have worked at all let alone lasted for centuries.
>>275135722>ad populemWhy are there so may people that fail to see the most basic implication, no actually implication isn’t the right word, the most basic dick slap that both the Marleyans are going to fucking murder everyone on Paradis and are not willing to negotiate or listen despite the fact that the people are trying to make it very clear they genuinely don’t want to fight or fuck around since they’ve effectively spent a century having what they did done to them and know how fucked it is. And you can try and say that they could cause the rumbling and wipe them out but attacking them would just trigger that anyway. That’s war, that’s how shit is, I have no clue why you retards struggle so much with that? It’s not justifying anyone’s retarded political ideology it’s basically saying “look man sometimes you have to kill people, all of them if you want peace”.
>>275192078Ymir was just the fucking worst.
>>275190987based wingman
