Putting all your lust for female Ranma aside.Is Ranma himself a good and memorable protagonist?
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>>275129254Considering 99% only remember the female version of Ranma as fap bait, I would say no.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU4tzPocZbI
>>275129254Yes
>>275129254Absolutely. Ranma has a fun, distinctive, and complex personality, he drives most of the action in the story, he's attractive, strong, and skilled and he knows it, and he has mannerisms that just ooze coolness like casually walking on rails instead of the ground like a normal person. It's not for no reason that he was topping both best male character polls and best female character polls back when Ranma 1/2 was publishing. Even without the genderbending aspect, Ranma btfo's all modern harem MCs.
nipple bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QleyNcziqc0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y-6aFZmXFE
>>275130884>casually walking on rails instead of the ground like a normal personI think he did those kinds of things because it fits on the stereotype of Chinese acrobats, he even has the clothes
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>Page 9Its Tendover
>is secretly the best character
>Page 9Its truly Tendover
>>275132828Kuno > RyogaKuno is sincere about his love for Akane and FemRanma.The way Ryoga threw Akari into a closet to meet with Akane was disgusting.
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>>275129254i had my Ranma phase 15 years ago when I tried to jump like him and bought Chinese shoes
>>275129492uhm am i retard isn't this the last fight of the manga that never got an anime?
>>275134145Its the Pantyhose Taro arc. Though the anime completely butchered this arc compared to the manga. She was removedhttps://ranma.fandom.com/wiki/Rouge
>Page 10Its Tendover for real
Ukyo /ss/
>>275129254Yes he is. It says a lot that if you dropped the gender bender gimmick from the series, Ranma would still absolutely make an interesting character with lots of fun character interactions. He's the best guy in the series, and frankly he's the far more interesting of the two protagonists.
>>275137904Being tsundere even with your son? That's no good Ranma. You're married now and even had a child with this woman. You should be able to keep your tsun tsun side under control.
>>275139392according to the artist thats his daughter
>>275131175i'm not sure but does akane think ranma is a baka
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nipples?
>Rumiko waited 37 years, until 2024, to reveal that she originally thought about doing a Kuno/Nabiki romance>>Rumiko Takahashi on twitter on September 21st, 2021 regarding Nabiki: >>At first I wanted her just to be the cool kid, but she pretty quickly became a character I really liked. Her money-grubbing was something I added later. I was very happy with Minami Takayama's voice work which was the ideal fit.>>Nabiki is in the same class as Kuno, and I thought that romance would sprout, but they never hit it off at all. >>Takahashi-sensei stated in an interview in 2024, "I tried to explore the possibility of a relationship between Tatewaki Kuno and Nabiki Tendo, but love never blossomed. Instead, they became a couple connected by money, which I think was good in itself." Take a guess, what other "you thought it was pure crack/fanon" ideas did Rumiko actually think about?
>>275146010*34 years/2021
>>275129781Shit taste plebs don't reflect on the character
>>275141555Akane has a repressed ntr fetish
>>275129994She is sick, why the hell did she wrote her as a phsycothic sociopath then?I know Ranma in the manga is a bit more stupid and pigheaded, but even i felt that it was VERY forced to make him into the bad guy.Does anybody else feel the anime tried to portray him in a more honorable light?
>>275129254>Putting all your lust for female Ranma aside.you ask the impossible
I figured out why I like bottom left panel. When Ranma purposely transforms in a hurry in order to achieve something, it's almost always transforming from boy to girl, and when it's the other way around it's almost always to win a martial arts fight. This is a rare example of Ranma doing the girl to boy transformation for mercenary reasons other than battle, can anyone think of others?
>>275149865>This is a rare example of Ranma doing the girl to boy transformation for mercenary reasons other than battleHe's literally transforming so he can fight Ryoga in his male form
>>275133621Kuno is a horndog but an honorable one
>>275130884He's really the best character in the series, both male and female.
>>275151561KEK
>>275149120No. He was an asshole in the manga and an asshole in the old anime. Actually it could be argued he was a bigger asshole in the anime, since he sometimes has Genma levels of decision making. And Akane was more of a bitch in the anime. But yes, Ranna is a good protagonists because he is one of a long line of likeable assholes
>>275150617Yes, technically Kuno and Ryoga were more honorable than Ranma...except when it came to sex. Mousse was the worse offender in that regard
>>275129994>VAswho cares
>>275129254Female Ranma sexo
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>>275154441>Ranma loves ShampooWho did he confess his love for again?
Apparently Rumiko Takahashi was a fan of Prison School lmaoo She doesn't like eecchi my ass, guess that's why Hana reminded me of Shampoohttps://kaketayo.net/hanakiyo/
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>>275158867Akane's little smile in the fifth panel is so cute. She's so happy that he's extending his hand for her.
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>>275159055The old anime completely butchered that scene
>>275158867>>275158879Why are tsundere boys so cute?
wedding fan animationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFApiiHr0v4
>>275129254He's alright. I like him more than the pud from Maison Ikoku but not as much as the Ataru from UY. He's an asshole but that makes for good dynamic with Akane rather than the usual vacuous knob you see in these kinds of shows.
>>275154615>a confession made during a moment of distress which he took back immediatelyNobody cares anon, Shampoo is the true fmc because she's the one who stole the audience's heart
>>275159952>stole the audience's heart>only in Japanwinning popularity poll in one country does not make someone the MC chink lover
>>275160004Poll makes no sense, Ranma doesn't rank high enough.
>>275159952>she won the nhk popularity poll so she is the mcwhat kinda brain damage is this?
>>275160069I guess all Ranma fans just voted Akane. Shampoo was actually higher than Ranma when she debuted. But after Episode 11-12, she fell down.
>>275160069Akane fans don't respect Ranma
>>275160109>voted for Akane>means they didn't respect RanmaChink lover logic will never not be funny
>>275160069Ranma actually beat Akane in the Animage Grand Prix poll until 1991 when Akane came out in top
>>275160186Position of Shampoo in the same poll (1990)
>>275160191>Akane>5th placeWhy do japanese people have such shit taste?
>>275160272Its for the whole year
>>275160186>>275160191yes, these polls make senseexcept ranma isn't number 1, that's still odd.
>>275160073fmc, not the mc, that's ranma
>>275159215Only if you're an insecure idiot who desperately needs everybody to love your chosen waifu.Akane reaches out and takes Ranma's hand, surprising him and showing she's actually subtly accepting him as her fiance, in both canons. Ranma's thoughts are utterly pointless; we already KNOW she's important to him. This isn't like Urusei Yatsura where Lum is constantly chasing every hint of affection from Ataru.Seriously, if the versions were flipped, people would be bitching about the OAV destroying the mood with needless voice over narration.
>>275160004>anime trendingPosting a poll this worthless only hurts your point
>>275160720>Ranma's thoughts are utterly pointlessget a load of this chink lover. the anime completely misses the point on why he is being quiet.>Only if you're an insecure idiot who desperately needs everybody to love your chosen waifu.somehow pointing out that Ranma's thoughts are removed means we are insecure
>>275160807didn't you guys tried posting that anime corner poll as gatcha where Akane didn't rank that high. Except Shampoo was nowhere in that poll either.
>>275160584glad you atleast started admitting that Akane is the real fmc
>>275160903>you guysWho the fuck do you think you're talking to?>as gatchaLearn English
>>275160911>Who the fuck do you think you're talking to?>>274992162
>>275153764>>275154441This is something I hated about old manga and anime.Everything's always comedic and funny, then suddenly they imagine getting cucked and NOW it's romantic.MAYBE HINT THE ROMANCE IN-BETWEEN THE COMEDIC SKITS, YOU OLD COOTS/HAGS.
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>>275160938Well looks like that was in response to the anime trending poll being spammed but I would've just pointed out it was worthless instead of citing an equally worthless poll.
>>275160720>Seriously, if the versions were flipped, people would be bitching about the OAV destroying the mood with needless voice over narration.That's how it always is with people who are manga purists and subsequently mega haters of the old anime. Like any difference from the manga automatically sucks and is the worst thing ever, nothing the anime does can ever be okay and was definitely done solely to spite TakahashiI was gonna say it's an Akanefag thing but Akanefags are more just a subset of the manga purist crowd
>>275160910never said that, shampoo is the real fmc
>>275152421Ranma chan a cute
>>275161069About whom was the ED song again
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>>275160986the old anime heavily mischaracterized both Ranma and Akane. making Ranma meaner and Akane more violent. For example>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWt7xZQ6-pY&t=742sAt 12:22. Pic related is the manga ending.
>>275161242I'm not gonna argue this point but I think it wasn't always as simplistic as that, ex. sometimes hoices were made so that Akane comes off as nicer than in the manga.More than that though I was reacting specifically to the kneejerk>the manga didn't do this thing the anime did so the anime is BAD!Like it just feels kinda childish to act like literally every single thing the old anime did sucked and absolutely nothing that was original to it was ever acceptable.Note I'm not at all talking about people who just dislike the Ranma anime in general, but more the attitude that seems common in fan circles recently where every single original thing it did was terrible and disrespectful. Like yeah there's certain media I dislike too, but I can at least recognize the stuff it does well and don't feel the need to make a show of acting like every single thing about it sucked.
>>275160986>automatically sucks and is the worst thing ever, nothing the anime does can ever be okay and was definitely done solely to spite In the last few weeks' threads, the vast majority of the histrionic posts like that have been directed at the remake. I'm often tempted to point out that if the anime versions were flipped, the same "everything remake bad too faithful and also not faithful enough" screechers would be shitting on the 1989 anime.The only thing stopping me is that anons have mentioned the remake being popular elsewhere including with oldbad newgood pro-censorship retards, so I'm assuming at least some of those posts here are venting in reaction.
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>>275161345Yeah honestly I'm not talking about here but about Ranma fans on other sites, mostly twitter but I've seen it a few other places too. >I'm assuming at least some of those posts here are venting in reactionAnd yeah this is definitely what it is. The "old bad new good" tendency in larger Ranma fandom lately is ridiculous, a lot of it's probably new fans but it's still annoying.Like it feels like no one's actually judging stuff for its individual merits anymore and acting like it MUST be a new vs. old thing where the one thing must be the best ever and the other must be complete shit, and so though I haven't personally been posting old good new bad shit, many of the reboot's new fans are annoying enough when talking about an anime that many of them haven't even watched that I completely understand how that kind of resentment can build up.
>>275129668lmao
>>275129254He's a surprisingly noble dude despite being kind of a dick and in love with himself. It's a line few protagonists walk, and even fewer manage.So yeah, he's good and memorable.
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>>275161199shampoo wasn't introduced until the end of the season, so they couldn't make the ending song about her, she'll get another song soon enoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuI0wJxJALE
>>275161323>>275161449The discourse about mischaracterization in the old anime is not new. I remember when I first watched Ranma in 2017, I was warned by a youtube commenter that Akane is nicer in the manga. People have discussed. Pic related is a scene deliberately added by the anime. Why are you pretending that pointing these things out is a newfag thing?
>>275163974A more serious example is the Kairaishi Mushroom Arc in the anime adaption that I discussed here >>274931308 in a series of posts. The whole episode was framed as Akane getting jealous of Shampoo that some Shampoofags post clips from saying "Akane getting cucked". In the manga there was barely any panel of Akane getting jealous.
>>275163484>she'll get another song soon enoughthings that will never happen
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>>275163974>pretendingI'm not "pretending" anything at all and you clearly missed my point.I'm not talking about people who have issues with something like mischaracterization; that's an actual specific complaint that isn't just "it different so it bad." I even agree with the episode you posted screenshots from; I don't like the original chapters it's based on either because I'm not an Akane fan, but I think that anime episode fucking sucks dick. I'm talking more about people who treat any difference from the manga as automatically bad because it's a difference from the manga, which definitely happens a lot with newer fans.I also don't think that single episode is representative of the entire anime, though, and that there are points where the anime makes Akane less shitty than the manga. All I said was it's not as simplistic as "Akane is always worse in the old anime"I'm not gonna turn this into a discussion about the mushroom episode because now this is getting off topic from my original point, but I've actually seen Rankane shippers who prefer the episode to the manga chapters because in the manga it's mostly a gagfest about Akane beating up Ranma and the anime makes it more emotional by centering it more on Akane's feelings about her relationship with manga. I don't think it was trying to go for "lolol cucked/jealous Akane lmao" at all, but to try to make viewers sympathize with her.And honestly why can't Shampoofags have some fun with it if they want to? The focus of the episode is clearly on Rankane and so Akanefags hyperfocusing on shit like "Ranma said he liked Shampoo's food in the anime but he didn't in the manga (even though he still ate her food with no hesitation), and that's a change from the manga and that's bad! ! !" just feels like it's kind of missing the forest for the trees.
>>275164247>relationship with manga>mangaMeant "Ranma" obviously, this discussion has clearly broken me
>>275163974Also my point in those posts was even that it's totally fine if manga fans dislike/hate the anime and I get why they might, just that I also find it kind of an overly hyperbolic and unrealistic complaint if someone says that literally ALL the anime's changes/original content completely sucked. I'm not saying it's abnormal for /a/ to do this, but with some of the newer Ranma fans I was complaining about you sometimes have a bunch of people with strong opinions on something they haven't even watched.
>oh a ranma remake cool>no nippleswhat were they thinking?!
>>275164967>2024they can't show nipples in Japanese TV anymore
>>275165241>>275164967Go Jack off to the original, nobody will gives a fuck about your sad life
>>275161449Thanks for confirming. It does make me feel better to know that much of the seeming twitter-style "reboot all shit og anime all good" is really a "no u" directed at >The "old bad new good" tendency in larger Ranma fandom lately is ridiculous, a lot of it's probably new fans but it's still annoying.>Like it feels like no one's actually judging stuff for its individual merits anymore and acting like it MUST be a new vs. old thing where the one thing must be the best ever and the other must be complete shitrather than twitter-style posting for the sake of twitter-style posting. And I'll keep that in mind and keep holding my tongue for the most part. I mean, I hate those people more than you guys do, considering I avoid those sites altogether. Though there are a few things that cross the line for me, the two biggest ones being unironically using twitter lingo (like the "fat boomer incels have sex" poster) or making objectively false statements (like claiming there was no censorship in the old anime).
>>275165463>>275165586>sad life boomer retard sperging out over a few nippleslmao, what a miserable loser
>>275166091who are you quoting?
A scene cut from the old anime which implied Akane carried both Ranma and Shampoo home and even dressed up naked Shampoo after they had hangover from Sake bath.
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>>275166471Akane is nice even to her enemies
>>275166523Meanwhile Shampoo wishes Akane were dead
>>275166571Based Shampoo. No mercy for self inserts.
>>275166571>>275166648That's not what she said, at least according to that translation
Did you guys see the new interview with the old voice for Kodachi? https://furinkan.com/features/interviews/shimazu2.html
>>275146010Finding out that characters that end up being essentially one-shot characters essentially failed their audition sort of surprised me:"Takahashi: Putting her and Soun together was partly an experiment. Figuring out who is compatible with who is all part of developing a character, and this was one such instance. It’s extremely important to have characters that mesh well with others in the cast. If a new character can’t, well, that’s where a lot of one-shot stories come from.Q: That makes sense. So any character who doesn’t work well with anyone else just kind of disappears after that.Takahashi: Yes, exactly. (laughs) Kind of like, “Sorry, you had your chance. Next!”"
>>275165586Pathetic, fat and autistic.
>>275146010Oh, Pantyhose Taro and Rouge surprised me too:"Q: Rouge and Pantyhose Taro are both pretty good looking. Did you ever think about a romance between them?Takahashi: It was something I at least considered at the time, but in the end, I didn’t see it happening. How could I have made them a couple? I mean, that’s just it. Sometimes things don’t go the way you want. There was nowhere in the story I could fit in an opportunity for them to fall for each other.Q: We do know they’re both hotheads. And there was that comical scene where Pantyhose Taro walks in on Rouge in the hot spring….Takahashi: Yeah, but the reaction there is a bit different."
>>275167382I like how she calls Kuno's old VA Onii-sama
>>275156394I mean, she talked about her love of Go Nagai numerous times. "Did those works effect the way you draw?Takahashi: I think all of the works I mentioned influenced me a great deal, but one person more than the others was Go Nagai-sensei. I was hooked on his work since Devil Man and at the time Shameless School (ハレンチ学園/Harenchi Gakuen) had a really big influence on me. At the time it was really quite a divergence to do both a gag manga and a story manga at the same time. For example, when the same artist does both typically they would completely change their style. But after seeing Nagai-sensei use the same style with both his comedy and serious stories I thought "I could do it as well".So you think he influenced your style of drawing?Takahashi: His designs are top-notch, so it's possible they influenced me. I thought the smooth lines of the girl's bodies in Shameless School was a real innovation."She also admittedly disapproves of doujinshi of her characters and said she forgives fan books that describe girls' "characteristics" as long as they don't go about it in too dirty a way.
>>275167902Yes, that's the minimum requirement. Otherwise, lurk more or go back.
>>275167962Good choice not to force in romance. Male female rivalries with no romance subtext are underdone anyway. Pantyhose Taro x Rouge would have made for really interesting porn, though.
>>275131693Another good scene removed from the 1989 anime
>>275170748I'm glad we are in agreement.
>>275146010I was pleased to find out that me finding Soun handsome was not just a me being crazy thing. " Rumiko Takahashi: Ranma's father is a certain type, so I decided to contrast him with a design that would fit into more of a handsome style if he tried hard enough, but Soun turned out to be an old fogey type regardless. I created his character based on the interactions of his daughters. While his daughter is flirting with the idea of getting married his family is very important to him.Ryusuke Obayashi did a great job providing his voice!"
>>275171081Finding Soun handsome is considered a crazy person thing? Other than the 70s porn star mustache he's pretty hot looks-wise, or so I always thought. If he wasn't supposed to be attractive, why would Rumiko give him that deep V neckline? I guess his "old fogey" personality as she puts it is goofy, but that's true for most of the cast. >Ranma's father is a certain type, so I decided to contrast him with a design that would fit into more of a handsome style if he tried hard enoughGenma confirmed ugly.
>>275166648>self insertDo you think Rumiko shouts baka and dummy irl? She is one of the OG tsundere (aside from Kyoko in Maison Ikkoku and Shinobu in UY). So many tsundere traits in modern anime can be traced back to her. Also, Akane does not share many character traits with post-Ranma Rumiko MCs. Imagine reducing the tsundere trope to a self insert.
>>275167581>>275167962So Rumiko was using the sitcom approach, starting with a rotation of one-episode guest stars and signing on the ones with more potential to the main cast. Reading both these quotes, I wonder if Tsubasa was intended to be a possible long-term love interest for Ukyo who ended up not panning out.Also, since she admits thinking of pairing up Nabiki/Kuno and Taro/Rouge despite their hostile interactions from the start, I also wonder she might really have toyed with Ukyo/Ryoga in her mind. I'm saying that as someone viscerally triggered by it, but (like most other pairs of major characters) they do have several moments which could have been retroactively interpreted as shippy if it had gone somewhere.
Are some of you twitterfags? I swear I see the same shit-flinging between shampoofags and akanefags. Even the popularity poll got brought up, some nutty shampoofag on twatter always posts that when they start tweaking.
>>275167382Wish she addressed why she didn't come back. Should we assume the remake casting thought her voice aged too much? Or did they want more current big names in the side roles to "balance" the main seiyuu returning?
>>275162150Hot
>>275129254>touches her butt How did it pass censorship?
Did Ranma kiss anyone?
>>275175007Kuno
>>275174442Yeah, I was a bit surprised she didn't bring it up, but I guess that's Japanese politeness for you. >>275172605I do think Tsubasa could've ended up with Ukyo if his central gag hadn't run its course pretty quick (the disguised charge). I do love that gag though.
>>275170822Not surprising they cut a lot out of that one. The old series crammed 7 chapters of material for the hot spring race into a single episode.People say the new series is rushing they they adapt 3 chapters in an episode.
>>275176150The beginning of the old series adapted things more slowly compared to the middle.
>>275130026In all seriousness, what does he see in her?>He's holding me tight after he saved me from my fall. That shameless!>>275130884That confidence with a bit of arrogance does it for me.>>275131175Not enough of shirtless Ranma working out.>>275134123Did it work out well, anon?
