Is this worth watching?
>>275171771no
retarded anime that's good at tricking midwits into thinking it's high IQ
>>275171817>>275171835Contrarians or fr?
>>275171771Nothing is worth watching unless it’s an anime original. Read the manga.
>>275171835This so much this
>>275171857I don't care about your fucking comic books
>>275171771I watched the first series, it was fun. Ppl on here said the second one was boring so I didn't give it a shot.
>>275171771Yep, it is very solid, and worth the watch. Wish there was more.
>>275172078It disgusted me that it just nullified the first series entirely.
yes, but just for context for the tonegawa series
>>275172189beyond the ear and fingers getting reattached, how does it nullify part 1? it builds upon it i think because part 1 made kaiji retarded and part 2 is him learning just how bad it can be in reality, and is all about him learning to stop being a piece of shit if he wants to have a chance of living again.>>275172078if you enjoyed the first part then you should check the second part out instead of having anons shape your life
I just remembered the manga still exists. Hasn't it been like over a year now since the last chapter. What's going on
>>275171835Doesn't mean it's bad. :)
Imagine getting filtered by Pachinko edging
>>275172658He made it out and then jumped right back into debt learning nothing.
>>275172725fukumoto put it on hiatus to research the game for the end of part 6 or part 7 (which will be the last part) and got distracted with his new golf manga
>>275172838Did it stop getting chapters or it just hasn't been translated past chapter 33
>>275171771Its the last genuinely good anime youll ever see.If thats not a motivator for you then have a nice day.
>>275173110it's still getting new chapters, the scanlation team is both generally slow and they're translating shin kurosawa as well
>>275171835But it is unironically high IQ. Not the gambles, but the life lessons
>>275172834i think getting so close and fucking it up due to his own hubris would give him a big enough head to think he's a gambling prodigy and ask to get another chance of playing. and then he's introduced to a true hell much worse than his punishment for losing the final part 1 gamble where he learns to stop being an impulsive retard and get his shit together for his own sake and the sake of the 45'ers
>>275171771Yes but only PC chads like it.
>>275172838I legit believe that fkmt is autistic. A normal person can't draw so much and work on so many series at the same time and never get tired of it and never change the abstract art style either. I am not even complaining, I love the noses.
>>275173195Is there any other place that translates it faster or I have to wait
>>275173421He ate so much shit throughout the entire first season it just makes no sense. If the series has to continue, is should be with a different protagonist.
>>275173657no. learn japanese or be patient.
>>275171771it's a fun ride, it's like death note level "intelligence" but the ride, voice acting and narrator make it kinowatching modern gambling/death game shows like squid game just makes me want to rewatch kaiji
>>275171771i know a handful of people who hate all anime but love kaiji
>>275173704i dunno, i dont think its that difficult to suspend your disbelief when kaiji has zero life prospects both pre and post espoir and he did almost walk out with all the money, again let down only by himself. and it did ruin his life and bring him to a lower form of person than he already was. kaiji's biggest thing throughout the entire series is being a man who can persevere - perhaps he's just not broken as easily as the average man with much more to lose
>>275173568Not wrong
>>275173704he's just a gambling addict. he can play a mean, intellectual game with his back to the wall, but most of the time he's just a junkie
>>275171771Extremely.>>275171857Also wrong because the soundtrack is amazing.
Any QRD on which series he is currently working on? I stopped reading his manga some years ago for no particular reason. Is he still working on the new Kurosawa, the Golf series, Kaiji and Zero? Did he ever continue Zero? Did he FINISH any series after Akagi? I wanted to pick some of them up once they're finished but not sure if this will ever happen with how many manga he is working on at the same time.
>>275174371he's only doing part 6 (on hiatus for a year) and nikaidou right now. everything else is concluded. zero still doesn't have a third part.
>>275171771Yes, it adapts only the good parts
>>275173704Personally I always expected him to aim for Teiai Corp itself by gambling and plotting until he eventually forces Hyoudou to another duel and makes him make a deal with him to take over in case that he won or something along these lines. Basically Kaiji eventually becoming the CEO himself for better or worse. I can even imagine it considering that Hyoudou would always expect to win. I ended up liking the second part after all but I had the same problem, I expected Kaiji to continue to gamble and fight but do it with a more concrete goal this time. Now that he has a nemesis.
>>275174546Nice, guess I will pick up Kurosawa and a few others then.
>>275171771Yes Kaiji is very good. Also watch Akagi. It's very similar and made by the same people.
>>275174547This. It also has a good conclusion. I feel like the manga went on longer than it should have.
Kaiji is either going to die and become a matry legend of sorts or he will bankrupt Teiai and go into hiding assuming a different name and identity but running off whenever he is tracked down by Hyoudo's people. I got a feeling Hyoid won't die or suffer any sort of consequences or comeuppance
>>275175098He probably wont and will die with a content look on his face after getting to fuck around his entire life unpunished. A part of me always hoped he does get to experience at least some level of despair.
The ED of s1 is still one of my favorite anime endings after all these years. Most EDs for serious anime are a tonal clash that doesn't match the content of the series at all or they choose the wrong music genre for it (like historical series getting generic pop EDs), especially nowadays, but Kaiji's ED incorporates the theme of the show perfectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr4Q5xe6C1g
>>275175343I like the Akagi opening too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKxh4pe7_KI&ab_channel=ANIMEFANPERU
>>275175098>I got a feeling Hyoid won't die or suffer any sort of consequences or comeuppanceSame. He is different from Washizu, Hyoudou is the supreme evil fucker that runs the world, I cannot even imagining him being in pain or broken. He will either win or die satisfied, like the type of villain that expected his demise and is happy with how things have ended. He is old anyway, he probably prefers to die in a showdown over fading away silently because of cancer or something.
>>275173750>learn japanese
>>275175513Its unfair but unfairness is the theme of Kaiji.
>>275171771Kino of the highest-level.First game is kinda meh.
I get the feeling the final battle won't be directly against Hyodo. I think Kazuya's brother is much more likely.
>>275174962One poker is peak kaiji performance though.
1 season:amazing and interesting start and then it gradually got worse, the end is piece of shit2 season: the same2/10
part 3 is best part.
>>275173568>I legit believe that fkmt is autistic. A normal person can't draw so much and work on so many series at the same time and never get tired of it and never change the abstract art style either. I am not even complaining, I love the noses.I started reading Arslan and there are some panels where Bodin looks exactly like a Kaiji character and it's hilarious
>>275175823That could be but personally I need some sort of showdown involving the big bad because he's the cause for all the shit happening since the very beginning. I wouldn't be surprised at all if fkmt even loved that guy in a way. He feels a bit like the devil himself to me. AKA an evil force that cannot be defeated directly, you can only defeat his minions and weaken his power.
>>275175513Yeah hyoudou is fucking old There's nothing that you can do to him reallyIt's like he said in part 1, why would a pro really care if an amateur gets a lucky shot against him? Even if kaiji beats him and even if he dies that's one loss out of a full lifetime of wins. He's already won reaching the age he has At least that's one way you could look at things, hyoudou can be an inconsistent sore loser too as we see with kazuya and he's building an underground nuclear bunker so he's really not someone okay with losing or dying after all
>>275171835But enough about Steins;Gate
>>275176030Funny enough I thought the same when I caught up with the elusive samurai manga a while ago and saw Murakami. A dude who even rose to power thanks to an ability related to his nose. I guess Fukumoto will forever be associated with big nosed older dudes in manga and anime.>BodinJust googled him. Have to agree. He even has the crazy look Fukumoto villains tend to have.
>>275176050I can understand that, but let me give you a counterpoint.I think it's even more important to defeat somebody like Hyodo's sons, because they're the new generation and have potential to cause much more harm than Hyodo could now or in the coming years. This in turn is a sleight against Hyodo anyway, as we see with Kazuya currently. I think a direct confrontation would not do enough damage to him, and wouldn't serve Kaiji's ultimate goal of getting revenge on Teiai. If he truly wants revenge he needs to deal with not just with Hyodo but the entire family and cause as much damage to Teiai as possible. If Kazuya is any indication, then his brother must be a piece of work as well, likely even worse.
This anime changed my life. It made me go into $20000 worth of debt. 10/10, highly recommended.
>>275172078my only criticism with part 2 is that it drags on a bit much on the second half, but overall it's worth watching
>>275172834This is mainly an issue due to the first episode of season 2 being a rushed trainwreck that completely changes the fact that he actively makes a plan to seek out Endou so he can challenge Teiai again rather than just stumbling upon him and begging for another chance after losing at some random pachinko parlor like a chump.
>>275176324>It made me go into $20000 worth of debt.Gacha bro?
>>275176470Maybe I'll give the manga a chance then.
how high are the chances that part 7 will feature Kaiji's ultimate power, the bathroom break?
>>275172834>jumped right back into debtHe still had debt from the ear... S2 is about him having to let Teiai ties behind him. Kaiji has tons of character development.
>some people haven't read all FKMT manga hereDisgusting
No anime is worth watching. It all sucks.
>>275174547Part 1 is easily one of the weakest btw
oh shit anon, looks like you betrayed Kaiji and he's coming to get you
>>275171835You talk like /v/ermin, please go back there
>>275177016Bathroom is too fucking powerful man.
>>275177016Bathroom break neg diffs Akagi, Celestia, Yumeko. Therefore Kaiji should be challenged only in India
>>275171771It's absolute kino but contrarians on /a/ hate it because they're 80-IQ retards who get filtered if there aren't flashing lights or cute women onscreen every two minutes.
Reminder: if you're a Kaiji anime-only, you have no ground to stand on.
Stumbling upon fkmt related fanart the last weeks made me kinda happy, I wasn't aware that even concluded series were still getting fanart in this day and age even though most fans seem to be Washizu fujos.
>>275177949can't blame them, Washizu is moe
OP here, I'm currently on EP6 and it's bretty gud. Kinda getting bored of the rock paper scissors tho, and the drama is so-so
>>275177187I can tolerate them as long as they've at least read Kaiji, Kurosawa, Akagi and Ten. I can get why people wouldn't care for shit like Mamiya, that was awful.
>>275177967One of the saddest aspects of shortage of old men in anime is that the voice actors are rarely getting any roles. I noticed that most of my favorite VAs are dudes that voice old men.
>>275178091fair warning, FKMT generally has slow pacing. believe it or not, you're in one of the faster games of the series.
>>275178146Yeah Kurosawa in particular is my litmus test in that regard. Fkmt drew a shit ton of manga so I understand that fans wouldn't read all of them and you don't know for how long they're fans to begin with. But Kurosawa is a rather short concluded series (you can read it without Shin as well) and pretty damn good so if someone isn't reading that I know they're only picking up the anime related content which is sad. I generally feel like nobody is reading manga anymore unless they have an anime adaption. Hype aside I always had hopes for a Kurosawa adaption, I am sad it never happened when even Tonegawa's spin-off has gotten one (which I enjoyed as well by the way, despite not coming from fkmt himself).
>>275178146Mamiya actually got really good, loved it
>>275178378I liked it too, especially around the ending. That was some good Mahjong. And the ruleset is fun too.
Zero part 3 never
>>275178321i was really blown away by both the tonegawa & ichijou hagiwara manga. the ichijou one in particular, it really reminded me of when i first moved out and had great ambition for how my adult life was going to go - only for those grand plans to deflate into a regular way of life. i never see anybody talk about it unfortunately
>>275178752Ichijou was fun but it really needed a bigger and better cast. But the hamfluencer chapter is perfect.
>>275178378>>275178413Thoughts on Mamiya as a character aside, I feel like they didn't use the Yami rule nearly enough. Starting Mamiya off at a large point deficit was a mistake, I think. The ending was pretty damn alright all-in-all
>>275178752This is what I love the most about those series, they do really well capturing the struggles you face in life. It's something I generally notice with strongly male dominated series (at least the ones that aren't about idols and bishounen). The Tonegawa series was the only time I ever happened to enjoy an office show/manga. It probably helps that series like this try to make the MCs relatable instead of banking on either otaku MCs for self-insertion or fanservice. I never particularly cared about Ichijou until I read that series. He was good, like most antagonists, but he wasn't someone special until he grew on me when I started that spin-off.
>>275178886It's really hard to use the Yami rule convincingly
Ichijou's manga also did a lot to flesh out Murakami's character, even if it is not canon. In part 2 Murakami is basically just a henchman with a name.
>>275178752Didn't they recently announced another spin-off? I forgot which character it was about though. Honestly grateful but also surprised that fkmt's series are successful enough to get this. It makes me wonder what exact demographic is reading his series. I cannot imagine gen z to care and even most millennials would refuse to touch it for the noses alone. I always felt like the readerbase must mainly consist of middle aged dudes but this is just a hunch of mine and it's probably wrong since manga are way more mainstream in Japan. The west only cares about the few big hypes for a younger audience.
>>275178752The spinoffs were only translated after Kaiji lost a lot of its relevance on /a/ and was still in the Part 6 bog. That isn't to say that they're not worth discussing, they're tastefully topical and humorous manga that give older characters the spotlight without relying upon the main series to give it significant substance or ideas beyond the setting. They're good spinoffs but they can be read on their own either as comedies or as vignettes on characters with more mundane struggles; they're also actually funny unlike Part 6. The funny thing about people who ask about the future of Kaiji's anime while seething about how Tonegawa received an adaptation is that the spinoffs (maybe not Ichijou) were commercially successful compared to contemporary Kaiji, which was in a serious slump that got far worse with Part 6. Hanchou still makes appearances in the Oricon rankings despite being 19 volumes in. They're worth a try, even if they're hardly like what FKMT (old or new) would write.
>>27517913650% fujos and women, 50% middle-aged men
>>275179136>I cannot imagine gen z to careI'm here Oji-sanGot hooked ever since second season of Kaiji was a seasonal. Yes I had early internet access
>>275171771Season 1, yes. Season 2, no.
>>275179168>the spinoffs (maybe not Ichijou) were commercially successfulThat's nice to hear. The Tonegawa anime was one of those series only some dedicated oldfags were discussing here whereas the rest of the world seemed to ignore it completely, so I always wondered how the manga and adaption were doing in Japan and hoped it was successful. I love that sort of comedy because to be honest I find it relatable and actually funny, which makes me wonder why nobody in the west ever cares. My personal guess is that most westerners watch anime and live action for different reasons. They assume anime were dumb on principle so they only watch series they consider mindless fun or ecchi whereas they look out for live action if they want good comedy or drama and ignore respective anime and manga completely.
>>275179168What's so bad about Kaiji 6 in particular? I only read up to 4 and prioritized other series later (including other fkmt related series).
>>275179675it's polarizing because it's more humor heavy and features no gamblingpersonally I like it a lot, but I would lie if I told you that many people share this opinion with me
>>275179675It's not bad per se, but the change from death games to a heist/escape arc also resulted in the pacing and the tone of the story changing. It's a very divisive arc, especially since it's struggling to actually get completed as it keeps meandering from small interaction to the next while losing its sense of suspense.
>>275178186>Dudes that voice old menAnd if you go one layer deeper you'll notice those dude VAs ARE old men.
>>275179785I think the problem stems simply from the slow pacing. lets keep in mind that the scanlations only had caught up to the releases around the time part 5 finished/part 6 started. at that point people didn't have the luxury to read in large batches.in the storytime a few years back we reached all the way to the middle of Mario-department-store namek. But up until that point many of the new readers were confused why people didn't like part 6, because they were enjoying it. FKMT in general is best read in volumes rather than chapters, perhaps.
>>275172834This anon is going to hate Part 3.
>>275180112
>>275178146I read kaiji amd kurosawa, but I get filtered by mahjong, because I am an asianlet that can't into the rules.My greatest shame is skipping part 3 kaiji
>>275179185That's an interesting mix. But I heard it was similar for Golden Kamuy.
>>275180144it's just a card game, it's really not that hard
>>275179985I mean yeah I should have said so, of course. But they honestly have among the most interesting voices in my opinion. It might help that I usually like cultured, smooth talkers and other stereotypes that are more commonly associated with old characters. I just think it's a waste to have some great old VAs that never get roles for anime because they mostly feature teens.
>>275171771Real question is are you worthy of watching Kaiji
>>275180010>FKMT in general is best read in volumes rather than chapters, perhaps.Agree. The Kaiji anime blew my mind because I was lucky to only start it when it was almost done airing since I was still a pleb back then that was hesitant about watching strangely drawn stuff until I noticed the praise. But part of my enjoyment was the constant escalation that always topped the former events in some way to make shit more dramatic or cool. Fkmt stuff often has a slow but great climax but you won't notice it if you read it as single chapters I think.This is why I often wait for a part to finish and marathon the whole series within a few days afterwards.
>>275180144it's a really simple game when you learn the rules. download mahjong soul, try to memorise the 1 & 2 han yaku, play a few games and hopefully enjoy a new hobby and the ability to enjoy an entire subseries of manga.
>>275180144Speaking about mahjong I would throw my money at the director that decided to adapt Koizumi as a proper series but I don't think it will ever happen.
>>275177941The anime is good enough on its own without knowing about them getting branded in the backroom on espoir and endos chitchat after the human derby.
>>275179168>"Gambler Kaiji" Spin-off Manga "Ichinichi Gaishutsuroku Hanchou" by Nobuyuki Fukumoto, Tensei Hagiwara, Kazuya Arai, Motomu Uehara has 4.8 million copies in circulation I didn't know it was doing so well, I still haven't read this one maybe I should.
>>275179136>For the noses aloneZoomer here, I don't think it's right to assume that. I'd say most get into stuff by recommendation and the entering of in groups. There's a whole Kakuwhatever and Kaiji viewer war in YouTube comments of all places, those aren't old people.
>>275180468No, I mean, Kaiji season 1 and 2 is barely scratching the Fukumoto greatness. Even adding Akagi season 1 to that still leaves you with a pretty incomplete picture. You need at least Kurosawa, Kaiji and Akagi to get a start, then it's Ten/Zero/Gai/GtK
some anon made this a while ago
Speaking of spin-offs, is any nihon-go expert reading pic related? It's a new series that only started a few months ago AFAIK>Gambling Comedy about the legendary gambler Mitsui Soga known as the "Monster of the West" from the "Ten" Mahjong Gambling Series, one main rival for Ten & Akagi. This Spin-off is set 10 years after the funeral of Akagi where old-aged Soga is planning to spend his final years quietly in a nursing home but as it turns out, he finds himself in a wild Casino-like gambling nursing home!
>>275180811>10 years after the funeralthis motherfucker is still alive?!
If you haven't read the spinoffs, you don't know SHIT about FKMT.
>>2751796751) It's long2) It's still being publishedChange one of these two things and it's great, but as things are you should wait (and then it'll be great)Kaiji 6 has some of the best moments in the series, easily beats 1 imo
>>275180112I disagree. Well, I can see anon disliking part 3, but I disagree with the idea that Kaiji doesn't evolve. Kaiji going back to gamble in part 3 has a lot of reasoning behind it and the chapters showing his everyday struggle are pretty interesting and nuanced.
>>275180993I don't even know how many of them exist. Tonegawa, Ichijo, the cooking one, now this >>275180811Not sure what else but I know there were more. Not counting one-shots.
>>275180756Wow, that's really cool. For me, 00s FKMT is peak
>>275181088I love how pure most fkmt characters are. Even the villains are often pure in a way.
>>275181209Washizu is a great example
the zero sequel was shit, right? I can barely remember what happened compared to the first entry
>>275181130Kaiji's development is pretty interesting. Kaiji changes as a person during E-Card game, and this change still echoes to the later parts.
>>275181287I need to find that spread where Kaiji goes "I'm killing us all". That really showed how much he grew, he was just like Akagi there.
>>275181360this one?
>>275181407This. So fucking good.
>>275181420part 5 is amazing from start to finish, so many good moments
>>275181476FKMT is so consistently good
>>275171835It's a retard IQ anime but it's still pretty entertaining
>>275181088>besides my father
>>275181156Nakane also had one.
This is the smartest moment in all of manga and anime
>>275181893The ending to part 3 was so satisfying.
>>275180676Tbch it gets kinda stupid after one poker.There is alot of unresolved things they couldve tapped into but havent, honestly i stopped following it when they did the vanlife stuff.
>>275181858Was really moving too
>>275181893The plan has SO MANY LAYERS it's incredible. People kind of forget that Kaiji had multiple win cons here.>>275181994Kaiji 6 is great, when people read it in one go later they'll love it. People used to shit on 4 and now it's beloved.
>>275180756>Nakane spinoffThey should probably note that it's been in a hiatus for like 4 years now
>>275182419I thought it concluded
Why is Kaiji on hiatus, because the plot isn't going anywhere? What is Fukumoto focusing on, just the golf boomer manga?
>new translated Nikaidou chapters never>Shin Kurosawa being translated at a snail's pace>Zero on perma-hiatus>have to hold on til the end of the year for Nikaidou to end and Kaiji part 7 to start
>Kaiji ends>but WAIT>Kaiji prequel starring his father>he's also a gambling junkie
>>275176014Nah, every part is best part
>>275182866Well, they say a good chunk of gambling addiction is genetic...
>>275180756>he drew Akagi while he drew Kaiji while he drew Kurosawa>all masterpieces too
>>275184047Ten ending during Akagi chapter 140~ always gets me. I love how he made so many callbacks to Ten like 15 years later in Akagi's ending.
>>275171771Watched it recently, one of the most entertaining anime I've ever watched, will absolutelly be checking out the second series and Akagi
>>275178752Kaiji and bog was published in the early 2000s, and this manga is supposed to be before that, and they have smartphones? It would mean that the bog arc is many years in the future compared to when it was published.
>>275178321>I generally feel like nobody is reading manga anymore unless they have an anime adaption.I don't know about that. A lot of zoomers are talking about Punpun.
>>275180655It's very slice of life and episodic so it's not a hard thing to digest compared to other works. The first 10 chapters weren't translated since the scanlator skipped them because they were adapted in the Tonegawa anime.
>>275178752Is there a particular term for this type of slice-of-life? It's weird because I tend to fall asleep when I try to watch or read the SoL that's more popular, you know the stuff with girls and school clubs and shit, but shit like this or Taniguchi's manga always work for me. I am not sure if the central difference is that they're staring adult men or if it's something else. I feel that manga about dudes are more personal, whereas highschoolers and girls in particular are projections that aren't meant to be relatable. There are of course exceptions but they're rare as fuck.
>>275180655It's REALLY good. Honestly feels like the life lessons you'd get from a more relaxed, day to day Kaiji.
>>275184994>>275185249I am surprised but also happy to hear that the big round nose man became a star on his own. I will try it once I finished some other series.
>>275185217Lucky Star core?
>>275185347Enjoy it anon, you've got a real masterpiece on your hands
>>275184605Floating timeline.
>>275171771Yeah, should probably read it to. >>275172078Why do you let others dictate your taste? Then again if you had to ask someone whether or not you thought it was worth a watch then maybe you didn't like the first one that much to begin with.
>>275175724What's wrong with rock, paper, scissors? Did ANDOU piss you off that much?
>>275178321>I generally feel like nobody is reading manga anymore unless they have an anime adaption.But manga is more successful than ever and is even more widely consumed in Japan than anime?
>>275179136zoomer here, got into Kaiji long ago by stumbling upon this image. This version is for ants, but mine's much bigger.
>>275185380I have a soft spot for ugly/weird-looking men being so happy it warms my heart.
The Slam Dunk reference kills me
>>275185546I was just talking about the west. Manga sold well here since the early 00s but only relatively. I never find anime fans that also read manga and if I casually should find the latter for some reason in real life their knowledge begins and ends with mainstream shounen series. Not even Jump series in general, just the ten most popular ones.
>>275185707I still think that those lists are pretty damn good. They usually list almost every anime consider a must-see, at least those from the 00s and 90s.
I wish my country would sell fkmt or fkmt related manga. Those fuckers sell Ousama Ranking (which I also like) and ONE series which have uncommon artstyles as well, I never understood why they wouldn't try it with Kaiji or one of fkmt's shorter series like Kurosawa or Gai.
It's sort of hard to enjoy the Tonegawa, Hanchou and Ichijou spinoffs when you know how it turns out for them in the end.
>>275171771Yes
>>275187047>Tonegawa and HanchouThey're more alternate universes than actually taking place in Kaiji. Hanchou is WAY too nice to be the same scumbag as in Kaiji.>IchijouThat one actually plays a lot with the ending he meets in Kaiji, that only improves it once you see what they're doing with it. The drama taking part in the final few arcs reminded me of Better Call Saul which I also love so I guess it helped.
>>275187047I feel this.
>>275171771yes
>>275181966it surpasses>Sit down, motherfucker. The game hasn't ended yet.it's a shame it's not animated, it'd be the peak of kaiji content
>>275182038>People used to shit on 4 and now it's belovedPeople love the one where they get up from their chair and press a button? Why? It's boring as fuck.
>>275190745Psychology goes pretty deep there imo
>>275184204I get that notion for S1, but did it apply for S2 too with you?
>>275190843Read the whole post before replying. He said that he haven't checked it out yet.
ye
>>275182038The plan required Kaiji to luckshit like thrice in a row to have the fake tile into the game.Without that luckshitting Kaiji was fucked.
>>275192390If you pay attention, not really. Because first and foremost, Kaiji had two opportunities to win long before the fake haku got itself into the game. The first was by switching his hand into a surprise tenpai when he revealed he knew, and the second one was catching Muraoka cheating.After that, and only at this point does the haku play a part. If it's in his hand, he can ignore it and play normally for 50/50. If it's in Muraoka's hand then it sucks. If it's in the walls he's got his strategy working. So that's 50% chances of getting his plan to work, 25% of just going back to a 50/50 game and 25% of the game possibly being cancelled because muh haku afterwards (but even then it's still not a given since Muraoka also got away with bullshit cheating).Tldr: haku should most likely be in a favorable or neutral position, but even if it's not, the plan had several win conditions prior to it
>>275179675It's become a Namek.Fucking awful pacing. Drags like fucking crazy. The circumstances that keep hindering and causing trouble become more and more contrived and annoying each time.
>>275192563Kaiji was always Namek, you're not meant to read as it releases honestly
