So apaprently W'z and Handshakers take place in the same universe, is this new show the same? I didn't really get that far into either even though I like GoHands, but this show actually looks pretty good so if it's in the same universe maybe i'll go back and check them out
Also I don't know if it was immediatly obvious that Handshakers was related to W'z or if that only became a things when Hand Shakers with W'z came out
>GoHands>actually looks pretty goodNice try.
I'm suprised /a/ is so anti GoHands now, K was very popular early on
>>275192972>>275193004W'z was fun, even before I figured out it was a shared universe.
>>275193854Sorry, I soured on them after all those expensive optometrist visits they caused me.
>>275193854It's like Ali Project. Repetitive use of a gimmick that ends up just annoying you.
>>275192972I haven't seen either of the Hand Shakers shows, but looking at the plot description it doesn't seem like they're related to this one. The only similarity is that both have an empty world with battles happening there, but that just feels like a prerequisite for GoHands cinematics.
>>275193854well their new stuff aren't K
So, I've read the manga and the novel. The manga is a high school SoL AU so there's little anime-related information there, other than mentioning that Ayame's chuuni is based on a chuuni LN "Guilty Dark" where two sinners Guilty and Dark hunt demons or something - dark and edgy story about sins, redemption, etc. "Your sin is my punishment" is an actual phrase from it. Other than that, it's silly mahjong, cooking, role-playing, cosplay, exercising, basic kirara style stuff. The manga is cute, the characters are consistent with their show depiction, and for a tie-in it's decently entertaining, but it's probably not good enough on its own that I'd recommend it to non-fans of the show. There will probably be at least one more volume, given that it's continuing on Manga UP.The novel is a collection of short character stories from all over the show and pre-show timeline. Given its release between episodes 1 and 2 it carefully avoids alluding to the big spoiler, even though some of stories, in hindsight, could only have occurred after episode 2. It's supposed to be canon, and it shows that it's written by the show writer, but there are still a few odd inconsistencies such as Renge being able to turn her weapon into a gem (even if she can in the future, timeline-wise in the show she had just said that she couldn't, so I think it was an oversight). Also, the prologue that shows a battle similar to the battles in episode 1, but in a way that couldn't really have happened. The author notes mention though that the events in the prologue are not actually chronologically straightforward, so it's probably best not to read too much into it and just consider it as character and setting introduction for people who haven't watched the anime yet.
There's not that much material in the novel that relates to the anime plot directly, it really is just a bunch of very short side stories. Chapter 1 is Renge and Yuri walking through the night city and going to bars and other places they'd only otherwise visit as adults, probably at ~ep.2 time. Kinda melancholic. Chapter 2 is Ayame and Sazanka looking for food supplies, Sazanka running off to look at some clothes, Ayame getting angry at her since she thought she disappeared for good, Sazanka apologizing and reminiscing how she lost her friend like that. After that they have fun in the clothes department and dress each other up. This is where we also learn that they're childhood friends who got separated in life and met again after the invasion thanks to Yuri. Timeline-wise, could be anywhere.Chapter 3 is Hinageshi and Erika finding an old arcade game parlor and playing not-Gradius and not-Sonic Blast Man there, breaking records of people who are probably dead. As the manga also implied, Erika is actually really fit and sporty. And, especially when it comes to the basketball club she was in, quite competitive. Timeline-wise, could be anywhere.Chapter 4 is Yuri and Sazanka fighting off a Wildhunt and showing that their weapons can absorb its remains to recharge and regenerate, similar to how Wildhunts absorb manmade weapons and whatnot. Which makes sense, given that the weapons are literally just broken off Wildhunt parts. I wonder if this will be the asspull to undo the ep. 2 spoiler eventually. After that they look for food they could use after the canned supplies run out or expire, and Sazanka shows off her extensive outdoor and camping knowledge, which would come up later in the show too. Animals are gone but small fish in the rivers still exists, we also learn that the sky has gone weird, and the climate became all wacky and extreme. Yuri and Sazanka end up cooking some grass. Maji de kusa, indeed. Probably happens before ep. 1, and the end scene ~ep.2.
>Mami got killed off in episode 3>Madoka blew up>Lily gets killed(?) in episode 2>No one caresWhy?
Chapter 5 is Ayame and Renge meeting at a shrine. Ayame was making a prayer so that she'd stop scaring Renge, and Renge said she wanted to stop fainting every time she speaks to someone. So, they try to develop better communication skills together and mimic the others in the process. Probably after ep.2, although Yuri is casually mentioned.Chapter 6 is the funniest one by far. Sazanka and Hinageshi are on a break during patrol, Sazanka tries to talk to Hinageshi and have her open up, Hinageshi may be fond of her but wants to talk to a damn riajuu extrovert as little as possible, and they have a sort of an intense psychological battle to win at this strange game. Probably before ep. 1, but could be anywhere.Chapter 7 is Erika and Ayame finding out that a cinema had tapes of the new movie of a Minion-like mascot franchise they both liked (Erika casually, Ayame of course as a hardcore otaku), unreleased due to the invasion, and Hinageshi helping them watch it. Probably before ep. 1, but could be anywhere.Chapter 8 is Hinageshi and Renge playing an absolute kusoge, with the only way to clear it ending up being kappou. Almost certainly after ep. 2.Chapter 9 is Erika and Yuri getting separated from the others during a battle and finding some puzzles in the town they're lost in. A rather touching episode about people trying to find each other after the calamity, even though it was hopeless. Erika apparently couldn't handle being the real oneechan in her real family anymore and thus spent most of her time after school with Hinageshi. Even after the invasion they stayed cooped up there, until Yuri found them, which we will probably see in episode 3. The chapter itself is almost certainly set before ep. 1.The epilogue is a pajama party set somewhere during episode 2, where Yuri also says she wished they'd all go to school together, dreaming of the events in the AU manga.
>>275196280Madoka was already hyped up because of the staff working on it. Shaft, Urobuchi, and Ume. It was already a huge hit before it even started airing, and thus of course people discussed episode 3 a lot.Momentary Lily had zero hype whatsoever because it's just another GoHands show with relatively nobody writers and directors (I'm one of the few people who actually read a novel by this writer before, strangely). Also, the setting was already fairly dark from the get-go, so main characters dying wasn't exactly surprising, and indeed people just treat that as a boring copy of the Madoka move. Honestly, I'm not too fond of it either, I don't like the killing off of cool characters that are created only so that could quickly die for drama purposes and to develop the actual protagonists. Didn't like it in TTGL, didn't like it in Madoka, don't like it here. There's actually very little emotional weight too, given that we knew jack shit about them so early in the story.
My overall impression of the novel, and this actually aligns with that isekai truck summon novel by the same author (haven't yet watched the other GoHands shows he penned), is that he can write the characters well, but tends to pick rather cliched and hackneyed stories to put them into. I really like the cast despite their annoying quirks, but I wish both the novel and the show had better stories to put them into.Speaking of annoying quirks, my personal theory was that it was cope for the suffering they endured after the invasion, and the novel partially confirmed that. Yuri literally wished she'd rather die than keep going when she lost Nerine, and remembered her mom cheering herself up in hard times by going dondondon. The one time Erika actually said she wouldn't go out with the family and went to play around with Hinageshi is when the invasion started and they were killed. Erika in the novel has also shown some pretty wild mood swings in episode 9. She can be very sad or very mad, indeed. Kappou is also the only thing that keeps Renge going. The one this probably doesn't apply to is Ayame because she's just terminally chuuni, literally just guilty.Nerine by the way is an Andvari user, so my guess is that she most likely survived after getting separated with Yuri and that we're going to see her eventually.
The 255-page novel had about a hundred of DONs and over sixty GUILTYs, I didn't bother collecting the stats for the rest.
>>275196709If you take the novel into account, it's not quite this much of a Mami situation, as though Yuri is absolutely an airhead, she's been hurt by unexpected attacks of a half-destroyed Wildhunt before and knows the danger. But within the show it really did look bloody similar.In chapter 9 of the novel she cut through the UFO head part of a Wildhunt, but not deep enough for it not to punch her quite heavily before it went on a blind rampage, which was why Erika and Yuri had to run away from it.
More random facts: it's not as clear from the anime and its translation, but Sazanka, between all the majis and the gachis, keeps talking in old Japanese proverbs. Looking them up while reading was a pain (my JP is far from fluent), and the writer in the notes mentioned that he had to rely on a proverb dictionary himself.Ayame had no IRL friends, short childhood friendship with Sazanka aside, because at school she was an overly diligent student (though not actually a class rep, though Sazanka ironically calls her that) and at home she was a turbo otaku. Her only friend community outside of the extended family was more or less anitwitter.
>>275196280aaaiiiieeeee I still hadn't watched it
>>275197451>>275196360>>275196179Black is cute.
>>275198497Iincho is my favorite. Other than being diligent in school, which I wasn't, I feel her a lot. Also speaks truths I wish more people would be aware of.>他人の楽しみに口を挟み否定するのは厄介オタクなのだ。それはギルティだ。
>>275193854I like them now, before they did stuff I couldn't care less about.
>>275196457Why kill Lily off so early anyway when they barely even developed her?
>>275199753Beats me. To create a somber mood for the rest of the show perhaps? The name of the show seems to be an allusion to memento mori, so maybe that's the theme they're aiming for. But it's weird when much of it has been slice of life hijinks so far.Honestly, I'm not fond of this, and I'd prefer a cop-out revival instead of only showing her in the flashbacks for the rest of the show. Maybe much of the show will be flashbacks, and this is actually one of last episodes timeline-wise? We're going to see how Yuri met Erika and Hinageshi this week, and I'd expect there to be a similar episode with Ayame and Sazanka, so she's not being written out of the show entirely. But yeah, weird choice.
