Why are yuri and yaoi fans mortal enemies?
>>275196779I’ve never had an issue with a fujo. In fact, I’d rather have them in the threads than some other fanbases.
>>275196779I don't have enemies.
>>275196779omnivore yuri fans and purityfags are bigger enemies than the yuri vs yaoi shit
>>275196942>omnivore yuri fansWhat?
>>275196779One of them hates all men and the other worships them
>>275196779We don't even talk about yurifags. In any case, we have a common enemy with the hetshippers when they come down on our spaces. Waifufags and lolipedos are the biggest anime nuisance in history.
>>275196779>ShillingWhat the fuck does that even mean?Another zoomer term?
>>275196779Same reason gays and lesbians are:Women.
>>275197002The sane ones.
>>275196779They aren't though.
>>275196905Based thorfinn>>275196779I have no enemies
>>275196779This reminds me how the only confirmed fag and dyke in Maria Saga ga miteru hated each other guta
>>275197021Exactly, there are no records of yuri fans consuming yaoi, and vice versa. And that's a good thing.
>>275196779Plenty of us are fans of both.
>>275197106What does "omnivore" mean in this very context?
>>275197443Are you a woman?
>>275197443based
>>275197239Because straight women don't care about dykes just like straight men don't care about fags....if anyone likes Yuri and yaoi it's only if they are bi-sluts to a certain degree
Bi sluts are based
>>275198006I hope you end up with a bislut of your opposite gender.
>>275198083Why so specific
>>275198109It's the most cursed fate I could come up with.
>>275198129We are not cursed :(
>>275198428Then you should not have a problem settling down with a bislut of your opposite gender, right?
>>275196779Because they're a both gay, but in a different way
>>275196779They're not. They frequently collude to shit up threads that have nothing to do with their fetishes. The major problem is that, if you just ignore them, the mods will stir the hornet's nest by globally banning those who are there for a legitimate discussion.
>>275196779I never hated yurifags. in fact I have a couple yuri vns I'm waiting to go on sale before trying. I'll read and watch any well-told love storyI do have something against people who try to force their ship on the characters (like forcing a straight character to be gay) or force their ship on other people (like attacking their ships) but that goes for both yaoifags and yurifagsit would be nice if both sides got along more, as we are all in the same boat
>>275198575Are you a man or a woman?
>>27519677960% of gay men hate women and 85 - 90% of lesbians hate menThe yuri fanboys and fujoshi that belong to the opposite sex that they champion echo these beliefs to make themselves feel better
>>275196779I'm pretty sure these days Yuri fans worst enemy are waifu fans or shipfags that ship MxF.I mean, have you seen them how they see when they perceive even the tiniest amount, or anything that implies contact between a female and a male character? They often use "het" as a slur, so I often feel like I'm hearing a twitter tranny seething. Sometimes is just sad, but I can laugh about it
>>275197021Not the other way around?
>>275198606fujo
The reason that men mostly like yuri and vice versa for women and yaoi is a deification of the opposite sex. It's basically idolatry. This is also somehow reconciled with a general sentiment of "All x are trash" where x is the opposite sex.I personally enjoy both because I have both had sex and am bisexual (traitor to the cause).
>>275197042>normiebitch with a shit opinion>fujoyeah figures
>>275199097Figures...
>>275199127You're a man, aren't you?
>>275199127>bisexualSo do you suck dicks and take it up the ass or do you just fuck men in the ass?
>>275199174i-is that bad?
>>275199199Obviously >>275199209How I use me and my partners yaoi holes isn't something I'm comfortable sharing
>>275199286G*d punished you twice, three times if you're also a bishit (which is likely to be correct, if that's the case, I hope you end up with another biscum of your opposite sex).
>>275199310Have you masturbated to yuri?
>>275199364gomen ne
>>275196779But I like both
>>275196779>>275196779Yurifags are way too busy cannibalizing each other. Their fanbase has very vocal annoying minorities. You have hyper autistic puritifags that throw tantrums each time an individual or series doesn’t agree or meet their standards, deluded trannies that larp as lesbians who think their genderbender/crossdressing/futa shit is yuri (it's not) and actual men hating lesbians that wanna everything masculine (troons included) outside their fandom and force their agenda everywhere. But the worst of all are the shipfags that ship females on non yuri series, shill it like crazy while gaining more and more followers and then create a shitstorm complaining about yuribait when their retarded ship gets sunk.Yaoifags from my experience are more chill. They seem to be more aware it’s just a fetish and don’t take it as seriously
>>275199516>>275198606
Yuri and yaoi fans barely interact with each other if they don't like both things, there is no overlap, no conflict, even in shipping usually if the girld get together it means the guys are free and the opposite is true too
>>275199516based
What's the rationale for being both into yuri and yaoi?For women into yaoi, and men into yuri the answer is very simple:https://youtu.be/_GGwfGSHJCY?t=442For gays into yaoi/bara, and lesbians into yuri, the logic is that they want relatable stories.But for the rest, there's no logic whatsoever.
now I'm just reminded of the time /a/ trolled a waifufag into thinking his waifu was gay which made him have a mental breakdown and then spam on another board for years till he was arrested kek
>>275199795I like a good romance between two likable leads. I don't care if they are man x woman, woman x woman, man x man, human x nonhuman
>>275199893Doesn't yuri turn off straight women and yaoi turn off straight men?
>>275199937you can read for the just the writing. I see it as just any other written relationship in movieson that note there's been cases where yaoi mangakas have drawn for a yuri project/magazine, and I'm sure the same is true vice versa
>>275199810And then everybody clapped
>>275199428I don't coom to vanilla unless it's like that genderswapped Golden Kamuy doujin
>>275199810What waifu it was?
>>275200111>and I'm sure the same is true vice versaGo Nagai:
>>275200206>>275200277>/a/ doesn't remember chrisfagprobably for the best
>>275200214>>275200295Also Go Nagai:
>>275200323Meant for >>275200111 (and 275200295).
>>275200295>>275200323ahead of their time
>>275200308So you convinced him a dyke from a yuri series is a lesbian?
I wonder how many male yurifags are not straight... I know there are many non-straight fujos, for the record.
School Days is (despite being made for straight men) basically a love triangle between three bisexuals, all of whom kiss people of their same gender at some point in the series.
>>275200652Straighter than hetfags on average. Just look at anime and manga writers.>ikuhara: yurifag, straight.>akihiro onnonaka: yurifag, straight>ogino jun: huge yurifag, super straight>fujieda miyabi: huge yurifag, super straightOn the other hand, hetfags:>hideaki anno: hetfag, wanted to fuck ikuhara>itagaki: hetfag, literally loves men>toriyama: hetfags, loves naked little boys and burly shirtless men>satoru noda: hetfag, creates golden kamuy, the gayest fucking shit to ever exist
>>275201279>ikuharaDidn't he create Sarazanmai?
>>275199937I'm a straight man and I will assert that Reinhard and Kircheis are turbo gay and their relationship is far superior than any of the shitty romantic side plots.
>>275196779because fujos (like most women) hate transexuals
>>275201334I didn't know that existed. Still not as gay as HxH though.
>>275201402there are more fujo ftms than yurifag mtfs
>>275201419>I didn't know that existed.Ecks dee.
>>275199127the reason is relatabilityyou can understand a character who is attracted to the same things you are
>>275199937yaoi is not my cup of tea at all but in some cases it makes sense to meit's never something I'd seek out, unlike yuri which I can enjoy since I like girls
>>275201452Penguindrum was pretty gay too. I guess he's just an omnivorous fujo (male).
>>275201536Hmmm... actually... the words are:Male: Fudanshi (yaoi) / himedanshi (yuri).Female: Himejoshi (yuri) / Fujoshi (yaoi).
>>275199937>yuriturns off straight men of /a/ because it only makes them think of trannies>yaoiturns on straight men of /a/ especially on shonen generals
I only dislike fujos that claim they are lesbians, otherwise I am pretty chill with them
>>275201650Speaking of personal experience I see.
>>275201569>himedanshi>himejoshiI've never heard those terms before
>>275201771They've been in use for a while.
>>275196779Are they? A lot of fujoshi on pixiv draw yuri art too. As well as rule 63 for some reason.
>>275201711Meh, I believe them. Also, they are rare, but there are gay himedanshi, and straight fudanshi and himejoshi. And of course, bisexual people of all those groups (very often with overlap).
>>275196779I don't hate yaoiBut i can't read those, in general stories made for women are more stressing and of course i dislike seeing men being lewd with menThe only yaoi series i have watched was black butler the 1st series
This argument always boils down to people wanting to make sweeping generalizations about what makes someone a fujo or yurifag. Why argue the semantics when what someone is into varies from person to person?
>>275202242>Why argue the semantics when what someone is into varies from person to person?Elaborate.
>>275202262As this thread indicates, there are fujos who like yuri and while I have never seen it, possibly himedanshi who like yuri. Either way, saying that either are "no true Scottsman" is pointless because people all have their own unique mix of fetishes. Taking it an even simpler step, a straight guy would not be into every chick he sees, so why is the logic different when trying to argue what makes someone a fujo/yurifag?
>>275202409>himedanshi who like yuriDuh...
>>275202442Oops, I meant yaoi, but come on man you know what I mean
>>275202409>while I have never seen itWell, Go Nagai is a man, who created both yuri and yaoi. Some examples of which can be seen in this thread, in fact.
>>275201279Pretty sure the writer of WfM also created a lot of yaoi shit (along with yuri shit).
>>275201771They're simply derived from Yuri Hime.
>>275196779Why is OP spreading misinformation and why is no one denying it? Yuri artists draw yaoi all the time and vice versa.
>>275201871that's pretty useful. noted
>>275201711what about monkey, anon
>>275196779Female yuri fans and male yaoi fans are based gays. Male yuri fans and female yaoi fans are cringe, delusional and self-hating heterosexuals.
>>275202562Is he even a yurifag? He's only written hetshit and chode gayass.
All women are evil. True love can only exist between two bottoms.
>>275203098Well, he wrote the Utena novels, and also SK8 the Infinity. Princess Principal is also generally considered to be yuri, too.
>>275203259>Princess Principal is also generally considered to be yuri, too.Ditto for Bokura no Nanokakan Sensou.
Say, can any yuri fans tell me what the equivalent of shaved-head man yaoi would be for yuri? Something that's baffling for the genre but turns out to be somewhat popular.
>>275202857There are fujos like CLAMP that intentionally shit all over yuri relationships while treating yaoi differently, and some yuri works by fujos like Nanashi no Asterism that have yaoi but treat yuri as bait. There are also tons of fujo characters even in yuri works while himejoshis are actually quite a bit rarer. I think most of the hate comes from how BL is overrepresented compared to yuri. Not sure if there are himedanshis who write yaoibait though, they mostly don't really care about male relationships. I've never heard of fujos criticizing yuri, maybe sometimes, but nothing off the top of my head right now.
>>275201918...wait, you are telling me gay people can like watching of other genders??
>>275203534>Not sure if there are himedanshis who write yaoibait thoughŌkouchi. Nagai has written both. Nasu is an evident yurifag, and he also wrote this.
>>275199937Women generally don't have any problem with yuri because it's mostly about romance, men have a problem with yaoi because it's just smut and they aren't gay.This is why straight men have no issue with most trap manga, they focus on romance instead gay men fucking, so it's easier for them to enjoy it.
>>275203539Some gay feminine men just feel comfortable with self inserting as gay girls. >straight himejoshiUsually they're married to men but still do gay shit with other girls. If anything they overwhelmingly tend to be bi rather than straight.>straight fudanshiThat's just /dbs/ and /jjk/ posters.
>>275203539I'm redeeming the card.
>>275203591>Ōkouchi>Nagai >Nasu I wouldn't consider them yurifags. Their works aren't overwhelmingly yuri.
>>275197053https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/shill
>>275199937For me, it depends if I care about the characters within the story. I'm a straight dude in my 20's, but I don't care that much about the sexuality of the characters, other than the chemistry betweem them, which is often the prelude to romance...or friendship.
>>275203675You G-card? How do you forge one?
>>275203374>shaved head yaoiit's sad the lengths straight women will go to cope about the fact most men will look gross after balding in their 20s
>>275203606>Women generally don't have any problem with yuri because it's mostly about romanceYeah only actual lesbians and bisexual women are into stuff like Mahoako and Valkyrie Drive. Most straight women would feel offended seeing them.>This is why straight men have no issue with most trap manga, they focus on romance instead gay men fuckingBut trap mangas have a ton of fucking.
>>275203697Fair enough.
>>275203697>>275203898To be fair, CLAMP's works aren't overwhelmingly yaoi either, although they're influential in the genre.
>>275203374Maybe western yuri like those chicks from Arcane. I can never get into characters with that awful sidecut hairstyle, but that pairing seems fairly popular
Fiction about fujoshi/himedanshi is peak slop (not in a good way). Prove me wrong.
>>275203249But all women are bottoms.
>>275203043What about people into both?
>>275204469I think our son is gay is a cute read from the pov of the mother
>>275205377Where's the fujoshi or himedanshi?
>>275205616wait I got the terms mixed up
I only would bother giving a shot to a yaoi or yuri series if the MC is bisexual. Their partner also being bi would give me even more of a reason.
>harem series with both male and female love interestsimagine the shipping wars on who will win the MCbowl
>>275206234How would that work?
>>275196779I don't think about fujos at all. The only gripe could possibly be how they hold an overwhelming space in the manga and LN market (ig they could potentially complain about yuri taking anime and vns), and yuri sometimes is thrown into the BL categories because a store or publisher won't bother to separate it. Other than that, I really don't come into contact with fujos or yaoi.
>>275199621>yaoi the mostly women and fag enjoyer genre barely has any conflict>Yuri which leans more towards men and dykes filled with shitflingingCan you spergs stop giving us a bad rep
>>275206234>>275206859There's already a harem like that, called Shishunki na Adam. The MC has sex with his entire bisexual harem at least once, with a single winner at the end. It's not great and the last chapter is not translated to English, only in Russian for some reason. Also, it's pretty obvious who is going to win, and it's the first girl he had feelings for.But for what it's worth, it's a pretty fun harem action series with a lot of sex in between.
>>275207146Is the girl that wins bisexual?
>>275207209I might be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure she has sex with a girl in the harem to titillate the MC. But not in a way that showcases her having genuine feelings for that particular girl.
>>275207312>But not in a way that showcases her having genuine feelings for that particular girl.What a pity.
>>275207351Yeah, unfortunately, when you get into harem territory, it's pretty rare to properly develop any relationship within the harem itself that doesn't revolve around the MC. She could be bi, or she could just be flexible, but we'll never get that development properly in these stories.
>>275207471I'm going to cope by thinking she had sex with that particular girl because deep down she had the hots for her.
>>275207562Godspeed, anon. Hopefully you'll at least somewhat enjoy your time reading it.
Was Kae into this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0LNN0vxzkA
>>275199795You don't have to relate to or be attracted to the protagonists to enjoy a story about them. It's like watching a horror movie about something you aren't afraid of. For the duration of the movie, who you are irl doesn't matter, you're watching Sci-Fi Horror Man whose wife and kids were killed by aliens. You might not be scared, but it's still fun to watch the protagonist who is and feel apprehension on his behalf as he steps up to kill some aliens.Romance is just a flavor of drama; it functions the same way. You get invested in the characters and root for them and empathize with them despite your experiences and get entertainment from that.>>275199937That only really matters for porn.
>>275204863You have never met a lesbian couple in your life even once if you believe that.
>>275204863most women are bottoms
>>275199937Straight women don't have a problem with yuri but they don't get emotionally invested in it. The majority just don't get obsessed with yuri or yuri ships the way they do with something involving a male character (either straight romance or BL).
>>275208540sad if true
>>275201711I've had way too many fujoshi friends due to going to an art school and all of them claimed to be "lesbian" but actively thirsted over kpop boys and shit. It seems like it's almost embarrassing to admit to fetishizing gay men and being attracted to the sex that they complain so much about so they'd rather say they're lesbian.
>>275200295>>275200323Nagai seems to be more into yaoi than yuri. That's just my impression though
>>275208050It was literally a phase. Reminder that shoujo is proud of teaching good morals to young girls like the proper place of the Japanese woman
>>275201711Obligatory
The only romance I can enjoy is yuri and yaoi, because I'm a wizard and depictions of straight romantic interactions are killing me dead. I don't want to be reminded about what I missed, but something completely impossible for me is A-OK.
>>275208734A pity, really. I love openly bisexual fujoshi and himedanshi.
Ive tried to read bl smut with cute boys before, but out of all three I tried they all involve non-con or very forceful situations. Sigh, back to yuri I go.
>>275212266>non-con or very forceful situationswould you be ok with that in yuri?
>>275212366The problem is with bl they came out of no where, you really can’t tell from the cover or synopsis. They could be having vanilla sex this chapter and get into a rapey situation out of nowhere in the next chapter. With yuri smut what you see is what you get, less unpleasant surprises. perhaps it was just pure bad luck on my part, small sample size and all.
>>275208734You're a fag for going to art school
>>275208132>You don't have to relate to or be attracted to the protagonists to enjoy a story about them. It's like watching a horror movie about something you aren't afraid ofwell said
>>275214097is this yuri?
>>275196779Yurifags and yaoifags don't fight But they both fight dumb shippers sometimes, but in most of such cases they are also dumb shippers
How many fujos are cute women? Would you like to be in a relationship with one?
>>275215926>Would you like to be in a relationship with one?Yes, but only if she's bisexual.
>>275196779Are you stupid OP? They're chill.
>someone approved the publication of... this thing
>>275196893This. OP is a fag, as usual.
>>275207146>The MC has sex with his entire bisexual harem at least onceHe also gets turned into a girl himself and gets fucked by a sex-slave trainer alongside his first crush, it's really the harem that did everything.
>>275196779I'm pretty tolerant with fujo because being obnoxious retard is the standard women behavior. Meanwhile men acting like a women on their period defending their fictional gay ship are repulsive to look at.Also the latter are not trying to erase men and straight people by pushing their antinatalism and using twitter term like "hetshit"Though, best case scenario would be if all gay shippers were to vanish from the face of the earth.
>>275196779I don't think that one deranged tv tropes diaperfag represents the average yaoi fan.
No one got the joke in using a page from I Love Yuri and I Got Bodyswapped with a Fujoshi!, a manga series with a very descriptive title. Far from being mortal enemies, they begin show interest in each other's hobbies (examplified here, with the bodyswapped himedanshi reading a yaoi manga, the bodyswapped fujoshi also began to explore yuri fiction), and slowly began to fall in love. It ended up like your average sitcom episode, tho.
>>275217075This manga seems really, really wild.
>>275203697>Naru>YurifagIn what world? Even now in FGO 99.9% of everything is with Gudao as the MC. Gudako is an afterthought at best and even at being a joke Gudao's gag manga ended up getting better treatment and a bigger longer anime.Nasu goes out of his way to write different dialogues for his characters in FGO and when it's Gudao the girls are slobbing over his dick but when it's Gudako they're just gal pals with zero romantic interest whatsoever.The only FGO official work that actually respects Gudako is the Shimousa manga. Nasu is hetfag as fuck and is always pushing for MaleMC to be used over FemMC whenever possible no matter what.
>>275218779Fuck, meant to quote >>275203591
>>275218134>himedanshi and fujoshi fall in loveMore likely than you think
>>275219196I just don't get the comparison>I don't get yaoi>I don't get this specific type of yuri?
Why do schizos like the anti-yurifag, chagen and diaperfag always want to force a war between the yaoi and yuri fanbase?
>>275219441That's not it. It's>Why do you read BL when you can read straight romance instead?>What if I asked you the same about yuri?
>>275219546Except the SOL qualifier is totally pointless if this was the point
>>275219546It's really not at all.>Why don't you read normal romance that's not gay?>vs>Why don't you drop a male into your yurishit and have him fuck the girlsOne is suggesting try other genre, the other is why don't I shit on your genre by turning it in something that completely ruins it.
>>275220192That's the kind of yuri Kabakura is into. He's explicitly a fan of Yuru Yuri and Wataten.
The one thing I don't understand about yaoi is that it supposedly sells a lot but I haven't seen any fujo talking about this and that famous yaoi seriesYuri series on the other hand can be occasionally heard and seen even for someone like me who don't look for them
>>275196779it doesn't help that one of the biggest long time anti-yuri schizos here is a literal faggot
>>275219526Chagen is literally a faggot who literally is disgusted by women.
>>275199153>triggered lolipedoAnd nothing of value was lost
>>275196779I'm bisexual (female) and prefer men and m/f pairings in ships but almost exclusively read yuri manga. However, I do write m/m occasionally. Don't worry about it.
>>275215926>How many fujos are cute women?Zero.>Would you like to be in a relationship with one?No.
>How many fujos are cute women?Manio
