Welcome back, everyoneToday, we start the first arc without Kaiju or tournamentsPrevious:https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274924389#p274924389274954754274984559275015779>>275050121>>275087646>>275121529>>275152637>>275185474
Forget I said that
Try to count how many things established in this chapter get retconned later
>>275213338obese atlantis
>>275213541wait a second, Terryman's shirt has an error
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ_r3AO0uwc
>>275213105said what?
>>275213231I already lost count
>>275213231so far I counted three or maybe four
>>275213310Double Enter
>>275213338springman is looking ass
>>275213524Fatlantis
>>275213395wait, mongolman is supposed to be a devil choujin?
>>275213421>you caught me off-guard, but it'll be different this time!>get caught off-guard againWarsman please
>>275213172What kind of compliment is that Mayumi?
>>275213421Atlantismen is ways a bro
>>275214106truly our hero
>>275214117Of the parents of the MCs of what I'd consider the big four foundational battle shounen (Kinnikuman, HnK, Dragon Ball and Saint Seiya), Mayumi is probably the second worst
>>275213204>>275213231How is that girl so strong? Is she a choujin?
>>275213272>>275213231Wait, now that i noticed, the intro to the revival arc is very similar to this.
>>275213338Our beloved and famous akuma choujin roster of dwarf Buffaloman, fat Elvis Atlantis, dude in a costume Springman, an ass, America, and a guy so generic they didn't even put him in frame. The only one who hasn't changed one bit in all this time is Black Hole.
>>275213338I thought Assface was from Nisei?Also, jesus Buffaloman has seen better days.
>>275213338>A literal spring>A literal assIs this why they got sealed
>>275214106oh shit he got the ____ tape
>>275213516How is Meat still alive?
>double pageuh
>>275213591He's right actually.
>>275214401It was this or shit scansI made a choice
>>275213272There's something about ENTERing wearing dark cloaks that makes villains iconic
>>275214188ah Mountain is there too, so Khamen was the last confirmed
>>275214133>stecasseking was always the weakest of usevery shonen ever TRACED that
>>275214079>>275214106Heh, this was somehow less bullshit than warsman's defeat.
>>275214188He'd be the third if you count Bardock (pre retcon).
>>275214401damn now I feel stupid for not noticing it
>>275213395>Mongolman>UnknownI wonder where he came from…
>>275214210>Pentagon is here sweatingSo, was the thing about them being cousins a retcon or what?
>>275214738I feel like he somehow manages to still be worse than pre-retcon Bardock
>>275214768>Suguru-nimOkay, I know her name's Korean, but I doubt that was in the raws
>>275214613Black Hole was really broken for his time
>>275214424You said that to the wrong Akuma Choujin
"White Hole", hehehe
>>275213042is this related to ultimate muscle? wheres my nigga dik dik van dik
>>275214857There's the final roster
>>275214569Am i the only one who reads their laughter in their current anime voices?
>>275214188cute bibimba
>>275214613>Owari da...
>>275213480I like how they target Meat first. How did they know Suguru wouldn't care if they threatened chairman or Mayumi?
So, uhmmmWhere is Mr American?He literally appear in 1 panel, and that's it
>>275214768>>275214810She used "Sama" when refering to Suguru in the previous volume.
>>275214857What happened to Assman?
>>275215032OUR HEROES...and robin mask>>275215077>kinnikuman holding the sign
>>275214761YesAuthor probably paired them together later since they look visually the same. They became the white and black combo.
>>275214891That's from Nisei, we might get there if OP is willing to storytime it.
>>275215032Oh hey there Robin, glad to see you're no longer in bitter asshole mode
>>275214935>Khamen's speechOh my good, this is really from THOSE translators isn't it?
>>275215032>Robin Mask is a good guy now
>>275214956So, is her name Bibimba or Bibina?
>>275215092Y'know in retrospect, the chojin afterlife really is only hell.
>>275215032Uh, i thought Robin wasn't in condition to ever fight again?
>>275215024Yude changed their mind.
>>275215202See >>275215207
>>275215054The japanese have an archiec pronoun?
>>275215100>>275215024Assman, American man, and the other guy all lost their job in-between chapters. They're called the lost devil chojin because they got rewritten on the fly to be replaced with someone else.Ironically they do still exist, but they aren't devil chojin anymore. Funny thing about kinnikuman is how things all come back in strange ways
>>275215125>>275215157>>275215202Let's let bygones be bygones, no need to think too hard, he's just a good guy now.
>>275215116Uh, how does "Rikishi" translates into "Wolf"?
>>275215184OH GOD HE'S NAKED!
>>275215305didn't they have to change his name because wolf was the name of a real rikishi?
>>275215351F to a real one
>>275215265God dammit Wolfman.
>>275215305There was some sort of legal issue, so they had to change his name.
>>275215313How the fuck did the mountain escaped there?
>>275215334OH NO!
>>275215313This volume created a lot of the major tropes that become important later on>New villain group that shows up out of nowhere, possibly wearing black cloaks>Kinnikiman and five dudes challenge them to a death match>Terry's shoelaces break whenever something bad happensThis all sounds cliche, but kinnikuman created a lot of the tropes to begin with.
>>275215438You mean like in japan or just in english translation?
>>275215168Bibinba. That's what the katakana suggests and it makes sense since she's named after the Korean dish. Bibimba is closer to the romanized Korean version, which is Bibimbap.>>275215392>>275215438It was the nickname of the 58th yokozuna Chiyonofuji Mitsugu, a very popular sumo wrestler at the time.
>>275215488>problem?
>>275215480Oh, and also >Heroes all die each arc to raise the stakes
I could finish it here, or take advantage of the double pages and do two volumes in one dayWhat do you guys prefer?
>>275214338>>275214365I need a friend like Terryman.
>>275215495https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOfMtyGShPAForgot video related since I'm not posting images during the storytime. Very dominant wrestler during the 80s.
>>275215528I don't really mind eitherway.
Ah, screw itVolume 11
So, does Wolfman die for real? No second chances?
>>275215619Spoiler: Lol. Lmao.
>>275215619Yes but no
>>275215619death is a revolving door in this series where if you can escape from hell or someone else brings you back, you can just come back. From this point onward someone important will die every arc, and they always find absurd ways to come back to life.
>>275214556>he owns all the kinnikuman mangaOh look, Black Hole is a fan lol
>>275215582Lets go!
>>275215750Robinbros...
>>275215750JOBIN MASK
>>275215750Iconic scene.
>>275215778>>275215800Uh, couldn't he just finish the move THEN grab Meat's leg?
>>275214879>asking about the odds of Suguru beating them when there's five left to fightBuffaloman is bitchmade
>>275215838Not cool Suguru.
>>275215750>loses to Kinnikuman>loses his UK nationality/citizenship>loses his wife in the divorce>loses to Kinnikuman AGAIN>Student loses to Kinnikuman>loses to AtlantisJobbin Mask bros... I thought we were the strongest?
>>275214079Stecasse King pulls out a tape of Suguru doing blackface and saying the n word and blackmails him with it.
>>275215750This is making me messed up.
>>275215923Give him the SUCC
>>275215947This isn't the 2000s.
>>275215974H-HAYAI
>>275215974The anime censored this by switching the referee with Kinkotsuman
>>275215948>>275215974Substitution no jutsu?
>>275215937wait for the throne arc, bros...
>>275215974Brocken casually kills the referee
>>275216000I mean, it does make Brocken less of an asshole.
>>275214788>actually needed the push of his fartsblack hole was truly fearsome
>>275215974now this is why future Kinnikuman fights don't have referees
>>275216000Why would Kinkotsuman even be at that match?
>>275216050The anime kept him around long after the kaiju stuff ended.
>>275216040Terryman, get new boots already my friend.
>>275216065ENTER....
>>275216040Tie your fucking shoes properly Terry
Terry's shoelaces always snap when something really bad happens due to a japanese superstition. It always happens when something is about to go wrong, it's a bad luck thing.
>>275216050Anime kept him around as comic reliefIt also kept Nachiguron and Mari
>>275213611not him wearing his SEXS shirt
>>275215619He comes back only to die again lmao
>>275216116What's that untranslated japanese text saying?
>>275214556BH is a Kinnikufag
>>275215334Wolfmanbros... Our sumo...
>>275215334Can't they put him back together like Meat?
>>275214810>elbow on the headsimple yet brutal
>>275216198I think they explained later that they separated meat with magic, no?
>>275214788So what is it?
>>275216188every time he fights I put this song on repeathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99A0YN8wiB4
>>275216209Wow who's this mysterious chojin
>>275216209A SAVIOR!
>>275215032the Idols choujin are born too
>>275216231Does this happen before the events of Kinnikuman?
>>275215701I love how before we find out about the deep lore, it just seems like the plot of the Perfect Origin arc is just Akuma Shogun is PISSED that people don't stay dead, so he just goes to the Choujin Graveyard and starts killing people.
>>275215750https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQvLeAuLXRo
>>275216231The ED is great too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHzGEx_do74
>>275215974No wonder referees just don't bother.
>>275216260I think it's like an alternate universe where ramenman is basically kenshiro
>>275215305Wolfman was the real name, he was modelled after Chiyonofuji Mitsugu who nickname was The Wolf, for some legal issues the anime changed his name to Rikishiman
>>275215983Stecasse King would be OP in Nisei.
>>275216295Eleven attempts?Good lord your aim sucks man.
>>275215659>exiles herself from the UK with Robin Mask>he leaves her behind in Africa>Robin does all sorts of scummy shit>still tracks Robin Mask down after thatThe women in Kinnikuman really are a cut above most manga
>>275215184and then he used it every match after
>>275216295warsman's most iconic panel
>>275215265Suguru is way smarter than people give him credit for, at least in what fights refers
>>275214556BH could be in this very thread.
>>275216228I've never seen one before, no one has, but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
>>275216395oh my chojin gods 10 million
>>275215430remember Robin is only 2 or 3 years older than Terry and the others
>>275216412A White Hole?
>>275215750I'm still mad
Kinnikuman author does take credit for inventing power levels in shounen manga before Dragonball This is the moment it all started
>>275215974After refs allowing everything under the sun as legal during fights, finally one of their own gets touched. Good.
>>275215750This was such a good and iconic moment. Also note that the shock panel is on the right, so you don't see it until you turn the page where it's immediately right in your face.
>>275215750Another trope here, no fight is decided until the very end
>>275216440Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the universe, a white hole returns it.
>>275216516I do think it's funny that power levels are introduced into Kinnikuman, and by extension all of shounen manga, just to hype Buffaloman up.
>>275216395>first the time limit>now apparently he was just a powerlevel bully
Easily one of the best theme songs https://youtu.be/ONaPsDG3CtY?si=QgHpvq2rsE-0CmEv
>>275216540Gonna guess Hustle was Guts in the original Japanese.
>>275216256Fraudken Jr
>>275216516This arc really establishes Warsman is a rather timid guy who loses his nerve easily at times
>>275216554It does feel like slightly localized scans that miss the point at times
>>275216554hustle musclehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIDVMcjHKVI
>>275216308I thought it was a TV show that Ramenman was the star of.
>>275216395>"The strongest after me is Terryman">Panel clearly shows that Ramenman and Robin Mask are higherIs Warsman lying to himself or was that a legit mistake?
>>275216561Buffaloman KNEELED
>>275216256not sure how true this is but hear Nakai hated drawing Mr. Khamen so that is one of the reasons why they made him lose
>>275216703damnit warsman
>>275216730Buffaloman is finally looking how he looks like rest of the series
>>275216681>Adding math to power levelsWarsman would be your average death battle moderator.
>>275216760Kishimoto traced this
>>275216760The spirit of a true choujin
>>275216703So, would that give him the W there?
>>275216595Can't wait until we get to the scans that are so literal that they're almost nonsensical at points.
>>275216760Buffaloman isn't even going to make sure he's dead?
>>275216827He didn't win, but he accomplished what Ramenman failed to do in the last Olympics. At least he managed to slightly weaken the enemy for kinnikuman to eventually deal with.
>>275216760My IDOL
>>275214738I'd argue Mayumi is worse. Bardok never really gave a shit about Goku at least until the last minute where he had some pride his son would be fighting Frieza. Mayumi is just a cunt to his boy as well as beholden to tradition to the point where his genuine love is completely muddled. Ryuken though goddamn the worst by far, he's Mayumi with the dial turned to 11, absolute slave to tradition and prophesy. No clue about Saint Seiya though
>>275216883He can just tell, he's already dead. The fact he didn't react to the last hurricane mixer was enough
>>275216875shouldn't be hurting if its the prosthetic one, I'm just saying
>>275216799Bro, you talked to Robin and Warsman like once or twice.
>>275216860The end of the Scramble for the Throne arc is going to be so fucking painful
>>275216897Mayumi for all his flaws is very involved in his kids life, after abandoning him for 20 years. He helps out during all his matches and supports him. He was a bigger asshole early on.
>>275214280>dwarf BuffalomanThe thing that gets me is that they coulden't decide if he should have facial hair or not so he goes from clean shaven to beard and stache to pube chin strap and back every panelSay what you will abut Nisei straight long hair and five o'clock shadow is his best look
>>275216826OH NO
>>275216897Seiya's dad is Mitsumasa Kido, who had 100 kids with different women, abandoned all of them and only took them back into an orphanage without telling them to send them to hellish training to become Saints
>>275216875The mountain finally has a mouth.
>>275216936Mayumi is the worst, it's not even close. Even when he's helping Suguru it comes off as opportunism rather than love.
>>275216968You forgot the part where only 10 of them survived their training.
>>275216989The only one to legit win his match
>>275216897Nah, Mitsumasa Kido is the absolute worst by a country mile.
>>275216998You chose that mask, asshole
>>275216998...Why did he gave them that mask then?
>>275216989
>>275216760kino...
>>275217012The mountain REUSED this later.
our heroes....
>>275216897>Ryuken though goddamn the worst by far, he's Mayumi with the dial turned to 11, absolute slave to tradition and prophesy.Is this some HnK 2 thing that i don't know about?
>>275217064and it failed both timesAt least Terry climbed up a lot faster than budo. Although it kinda feels like budo only fell for it out of respect
>>275217082https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCmJAOJ3bZE
>>275217082MY HERO
>>275217082HE DID IT!!!
>>275217082RE-ENTER
>>275217082the most reliable with Ramenman
>>275217059Where's the medic? They're letting Brockenman Jr. bleed out. >>275217082Terrybros! He lived!
>>275217082Kinokuman
>>275217082AMERICAN DREAM GA YATTEKURU
>>275217040It's tradition.
>>275217207He could've picked a different mask!
>>275217126Ew gross.
>>275217227It was the last one available, please understand.
>>275217224This is objectively the correct decision Suguru
>>275217224>>275217246>>275217267damn he got peer pressured into keeping the belt instead of prioritizing saving his friend
>>275216968You know what I take it back Ryuken isn't as bad as that
>>275217284Don't trust a devil's dealThey always cheat, they have no moralsThey just offered a deal to make you give up the last of your own morals so you'd have nothing left, before they drown you regardless.
>>275217246I mean, he could STILL fight them AND give the belt for Meat.
I just realized I missed the Wolfman v Kinnikuman fight in the Choujin Olympics because I was too busy watching sumo. Unfortunate!
>>275217314Uh, neither Black Hole and Ste. King died.D-did they killed them off-screen for this technique to work?
>>275217360That's a strong lass.
>>275215334SUMO IS.... DEAD
>>275217443>>275217467mystery nigga
>>275217326That would've been a better argument than whatever Terryman was on there.
>>275217513>>275217530wait I think you missed a chapter, why are they underwater?
>>275217617Why didn't he used this against Robin?
>>275217732BLOOD FLASH!
>>275217591Who could it be?
>>275217768would a leg actually sink in water?
>>275217803Depends on how heavy it is compared to its volume.
Done for todayCome back tomorrow to see if they can finish putting Meat back together
>>275217818Thanks OP!
>>275216567>Fraudken JrNo. It's Fraulein Brocken Jr and she's in the genderbent spinoff.
>>275215334
>>275217914In the original anime this move just turned Rikishiman red, rather than breaking him to pieces.
>>275216703
>>275215289>Le evil slinky Still a gag manga at heart huh?
>>275217530One of Brocken's few relevant wins
>>275217818Thanks!
>>275216775He is a computer to be fair
>>275217818Thanks OP
>>275217082https://youtu.be/XCmJAOJ3bZE?si=GzuEJzM9KTtA2iFk
>>275216897Eh bardock didn't care about either of his kids, pre retcon except for hoping his son could beat Frieza due to a vision. Mayumi is just a bad dad to one kid so it's not as bad
>>275218862>Mayumi is just a bad dad to one kid so it's not as badRight, just the one kid.
>>275218872Well maybe two if you count the pig he let grow into a greedy corrupt leader. But it was still a pig
>>275217768Can't they just get a prosthetic
>>275218888> He doesn't know
>>275219012I mean, Meat's missing his head too. There's no prosthetic for that.
>>275219104So worry about the head just go beat up that kid from the tag team arc and steal his fake leg for meat
cool cover
>>275217467Stop thinking rationally Terry!
>>2752175914000 YEARS
>>275213272>>275214531Akatsuki traced this?
>>275217818Thanks for posting OP
>>275214106Symbolism of Kinnikunan defeating his old self with his new finisher or just a comedic coincidence?
>>275213042>400+ repliesSomething big happening this volume?
>>2752216597 Akuma Chojin arc. Yesterday's thread hit bump limit.
>>275214133Guys, is your goal to kill meat or fight Suguru?>>275214857The cassette wasn't even in the initial assault >>275213338. I guess it's why they use mystery niggas nowadays.
>>275221659we're getting into the more serious story arcs so the threads are only going to get bigger from here on
>>275222294>hyped for the throne arc>remember the dogshit translations
>>275222333for me it teeters on the edge to what I'd consider an acceptable translationyou really don't have any trouble understanding what they say but it always feels unnatural or overly stiltedit's like reading sakigake all over again
>>275215508This hardly happens or it's fakeout deaths>>275216148Something like>uwa my clothes are
Man. These threads are making me realize that a lot of jokes from Bôbobo that I never fully understood were just Kinnikuman references all along.
>>275215289>steps at Tottori's sand duneswe've come full circle
So the new Great Kinnikuman appear in time arc is Mantaro, right
>>275217398they got killed by the Devil Knights off-screen i guess
>>275215334is a carrier end injury, but he still alive in the revival and mad by the fact that the gang never call him to fight again
>>275215529We all need
>>275213172>>275213204>banned 7 niggas from competingFuck off.
>>275223306It's not entirely clear yetI feel like there's a reversal and a double reversal going on.
>>275213516He's fucking dead.
>>275224489he retires several times already, it's the reason he never fights. Except that one time he came out of retirement.
>>275213654Goddamn, the refs are more useless than jannies.
>>275213826Damn, a copycat power.
>>27521413310 days? Are you sure you aren't estimating that with human's regenerative ability?
>>275214210What, are they just going to hang around the damn stadium all 10 days?
>>275214511Hey, these faggots are all gimmicky cheaters so far.
>>275213826>>275225813I really like the theory that SteCasseking is tsundere for warsman since hes always using wars' tape
>>275214594Kishimoto traced that.
>>275214651What? I thought he's going to use Kinniku Flash or something, instead of pulling Taiyouken out of his ass. Toriyama traced that btw.
>>275214723This is just the toilet guy's move but space themed, nothing impressive.
>>275214742???
>>275214810What the fuck is that bullshit win? Feels like the mangaka doesn't even know what to do with Blackhole's ability.
>>275215032Who the hell's Wolfman?
>>275226369the sumo wrestler
>>275215750Nah, I'd win
>>275215245Oda traced this guy with the jobber guy Luffy punched.
>>275215289What a dumb move.
>>275215334He's fucking dead.
>>275215305>>275216311the funny part is Yude making him fight against a literal Wolf Choujin in the revival lmao
>>275215448Oda traced this with fishmen.
>>275215582Damn, no wonder about the high post count.
>>275217082Is interesting to see that some of the most iconic movements from the manga come from this volume
>>275215750Terry's going to ruin his shoes if this keeps happening.
>>275215948Kishimoto traced this.
>>275216040Terry should stop going to the same place for shoes.
>>275217818Thanks.
>>275226733maybe its the only place in Texas that sells wrestling boots for prostetic legs
>>275226466>>275226556Kinnikuman is one of Oda's biggest inspirations after allEven submitted a Choujin when he was younger
>>275226006Warsman is the poster boy for the mechanical choujins, soo is obvious that a low level tape-deck have some level of admiration towards him
>>275213105page 1?
>>275213042My HEROES!
>>275213125Tiny Mountain
>>275213338Seeing how they look in the new anime compared to this is like night and day.
>>275213443Even Buffaloman looks confused.
>>275213524https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZqo4OZ0Pqs
>>275213918Did Stecasseking get permission to use those moves?
>>275214475>>275214511>Just started playing Aragami earlier before readingWhat a coincidence.
>>275216936>Early onWait until scramble for the throne to say that buddy.Mayumi is the worst by a mile, he only leash on Suguru for profit and NEVER feel bad for anything.Bardoock shows second thoughts about his ways the first moment he sees Goku even if he says to itself that the kid is a failure (to the point that the only vision of the future he truly believes is that one of Kakaroto fighting Freeza).Kiddo is a womanizer, but he doesn't show hate against his kids, even gets shocked when he realizes that he needs to sacrifice them to save the world, and he doesn't have a choice.Ryuken don't have talent to be a father, and he really put the tradition first, but again, is one of this cases the character don't really have other choice, the world of HnK is hell, and the fact that Raoh is dead centered in conquest, and Jagi is a jealous prick don't help. But Toki and Kenshiro are good people, 50% success on rising children is great
>>275215032Buffaloman was so surprised he started speaking Japanese!
>>275215289>>275215313Just move to the side you fat fuck!
>>275216432He's basically a dinosaur!
>>275215923>>275215948
>No one remembers the true worst father.
>>275216466>i'll beat your brute strength with my pure skills and these sharp metal claws
>>275215448>>275226449
kinnikubump
>>275215750Just get Velcro straps Jesus Christ.
Let's finish this.
>>275218051In the manga panel he landed on his back but here he actually lands on his head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06kV0saaBHE
>>275217818Surprised the 7DC arc is already almost over.
>>275240791Yeah, I could’ve sworn that was a volume 20 arc but it’s a lot shorter than I remember.
>>275240791>>275240866People forget a third of the runtime is just Scramble. Scramble + Dream Tag is over half the series.
>>275240905Isn't the longest single arc Perfect Origin, funnily enough?
>>275241130I think the revival has run longer than the OG run by now. Pretty wild to think about
>>275227348>Even submitted a Choujin when he was youngerWaitWhich one?
>>275241411Pandaman. Oda still loves him and sneaks him into the background art of OP all the time. Google him, you'll be surprised how many times he's shown up.
>>275216395This may or may not be the very page that ruined an entire genre of anime.
>>275241202Original series ended at 387 continuation series combined with original is up to 843
>>275241781So at least 456 chapters are the new series, surpassing the original entirelyNot counting nisei at all
>>275241745It's OK, DragonBall has been taking the fall for us.
If you ever want to go crazy, just check the chojin power levels on the wiki. Pull up the page of any random chojin and check their chojin level. They will never be what you actually expect.
>>275242094They’re going to be higher than I expect thanks to inflation, I just know it.
>>275243698oh no, they're almost always lower than you'd thinkfor example Goldman/Akuma Shogun has a chojin power of 15 million, which is extremely low considering a jobber like Marlinman has 22 million
