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I just realized that Yoshikage Kira v3 was based on Leland Palmer from Twin Peaks. RIP to David Lynch, a real one who influenced generations of Japanese manga & anime.
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Haha anon you made me che-
>It's real
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>>275237194
>Kira is based on Palmer
Bull fucking shit. Proof? I know that TP was huge in Japan back then so it could very much be legit, but I'd like some evidence.
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>>275237249
How's my mood right now? Black as midnight on a a moonless night.
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>>275237194
>Twin Peaks
I think I really should watch this and ignore /tv/ contrarians
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>>275237727
It's genuinely one of the best series ever made
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>>275237727
telling me that /tv/ turds hate it while everyone else (esp japan) loves it?
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>>275237475
The source is that he made it the fuck up. I've never seen this mentioned anywhere.
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>>275238159
>I NEED AN AUTHORITY FIGURE TO FACTCHECK&VERIFY FOR ME
Or you could use your own sense of understanding of history, japanese culture, and aesthetic judgement.

Do you rush to wikipedia to have every facet of life spelled out for you?
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>>275238321
>If I make up shit and then scream loud enough about it that makes it true
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>>275238347
>there is no wikipedia factchecker stamp of approval so it's not real!
I'm sorry you go through life this way. I genuinely am.
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Magnificent
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>>275238347
nta but Twin Peaks and Dune were huge in Japan, a lot of authors were heavily influenced by them
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>275238371
based smooth brain
>>275238459
yeah no shit sherlock but that doesnt change the point that the other anon is a baiting retard
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>>275237475
Araki based Funny Valentine's backstory on a scene from Pulp Fiction and that's fine, but the idea of the main villain from the part about a series of murders in a sleepy town being based on the primary villain from another series about a series of murders in a sleepy town is too big to wrap your head around.
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correct now go take your schizo meds and talk about anime you /tv/ turds
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>>275238749
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>>275238805
>>275238835
Alright, then
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>>275237194
Jesus fucking Christ he is dead
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>>275237727
It's good though the 3rd season is limited by how long it came after the first 2.
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>>275239649
The third season is exactly the way it is BECAUSE it happened such a long time after the second, that plus lynch wanted to dunk on the fans
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we all got LYNCHED in the end
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>>275239813
while he died laughing from a fucked lung watching hollywood burn
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>>275237727
It's the Eva of /tv/.
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>>275240311
nice bait
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>>275240311
So overrated entry level shit?
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>>275237727
Its an ikuhara anime but live action
It's interesting seeing how much Lynch's work inspired Ikuhara
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>>275240451
Appropriately rated medium-defining kino that seems overrated because literally everything takes inspiration from it
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>>275237194
>david lynch died before my birthday
fuck man
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>>275241244
who the fuck takes inspiration from garbage like eva lmao
that thing has nothing going for it but "dude rule of cool lmao" while the community thinks its the second coming of fucking christ
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>>275240451
No, just hated by contrarians like >>275241412
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Ngl Twin Peaks has horrible writing and acting
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frfrfam eva is overrated piss juice for boomer
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>>275241646
on god
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>>275237727
Yes. Watch the first 2 seasons, then Fire Walk with Me, then season 3
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>>275237194
what's up with araki's obsession with westoid slop?
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>>275242143
what's up with big western studios obsession with asia slop and fake anime like avatar, halo, lord of the rings or cyberpunk?
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>>275242187
because they're full of talentless hacks, as all westoid studios are, only capable of half-assed attempts at ripping off the superior industry. obviously.
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>>275237727
>>275242012
Don't forget The Missing Pieces
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>>275242143
Name any eastern thing worth being influenced by
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>>275242768
Journey to West
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>>275240311
Araki was completely right about Eva, by the way.
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>>275243131
The best Jojo MC is the one closest to Shinji
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>>275243320
He says this but then goes on to write a character like Johnny
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>>275243320
>What do you mean this traumatized child doesn't want to be the chosen hero child soldier? Why doesn't he just get in the robot and ignore that his father. Who abandoned him to an abusive couple and only now wants him in his life when he's useful as a child soldier?
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>>275243402
???
Johnny wanted to go on the SBR he was the driving factor.
What Arakos complaining about is if Gyro had to force Jhonny to go on the hunt for his legs and drag him crying and screaming.
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>>275238835
Funny how Araki was afraid people would sympathize with Kira if he gave him a tragic backstory when even without one, a lot of people were already rooting for him to get away with everything
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>>275242143
>what's an westaboo
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>>275243402
>He says this but then goes on to write a character like Johnny
>Even cripple, abandoned by his father, by everyone that once praised him, never gave up trying to walk again and his dream as a jockey
Shinji would have killed himself right after having that newspaper down his throat
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>>275243509
>people were already rooting for him to get away with everything
After Whamu he is the most sympathetic villain even with him being as evil as Dio. Bizarre
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>>275243474
Gyro basically does carry him through half the part.
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>>275243784
Even if reluctant Johnny was still there out of his own volition, motivation being he wanted to change, he could've quit whenever he wanted but didn't, can the same be said about Shinji?
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>>275237194
>RIP to David Lynch
FUCK
I was hoping he'd make another movie at some point.
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>>275243675
What exactly is sympathetic about Kira?
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>>275245728
He's muslim coded
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>>275243426
Grow a spine, Shinji. There are plenty of people in real life who experienced much worse and had the balls to rise above. You just suck.
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>>275245992
>chops off hands
>hates women
>makes giant explosions wherever he goes
It's weird that more people didn't run with this back when 'Allahu Akbar' jokes were all the rage.
>>275243426
Anon, I would explain to you why your difference of opinion doesn't matter here, but you're shadowboxing, so I'll leave you to it.
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>>275245094
>can the same be said about Shinji?
Yes, he rises to the occasion and pilots the Eva throughout the entire show until he snaps in EoE
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>>275247074
Johnny rises above his doubts, guilt, and inhibitions while Shinji just gets more and more insane.
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>>275245728
The whole "I just want to live a quiet life" thing, I felt bad when everyone was interfering with that.
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>>275238835
Huh, first time reading this and I always thought Araki had already conceptualized Kira since the beginning precisely because of how the story starts with Angelo, a murderer.
Joseph's purple hermit photo might even act as foreshadowing/red herring because the lurking evil could've been not him but Kira.
>>275245728
He wanted to live a quiet life but life (read: destiny) ironically made him a psychopath unable to resist the urge to kill. Now he's not the most sympathetic villain out there, sure, but that definitely sets him apart, he didn't want to take the first napkin or become the ultimate lifeform, he just wanted to live like a plant or a rock, like Angelo.
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>>275249943
It's really hard to buy that when his idea of a "quiet life" is robbing others of their quiet lives. The obvious hypocrisy he never even considers really pisses me off.
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>>275243320
It bothers me that people take this quote so seriously, as like holy written scripture that must never be questioned or challenged. It's clearly made in the middle of a fun conversation. And it might indeed be a serious deeply-held belief, but really there's no need to assign it that much inviolate weight. Evangelion is still a fascinating, monumentally groundbreaking story and Shinji a unique anti-protagonist regardless of whether he has the approval of a Shounen Jump author. Both these methods towards achieving narrative satisfaction can be good.

>>275243402
>He says this but then
My whole point with the above, that people give too much weight to quotes celebrities say off the cuff. The things people say out loud in face to face human conversations aren't carved in stone testaments to our immutable beliefs, they're emergent representations of one or more aspects we may be feeling that are contextually appropriate to the spirit of the given conversation.

TEE EL DEE ARR it's just fuckin banter m8
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>>275250103
That is why he is considered a threat to Morioh in the first place.
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>>275250103
Yeah. 'Sympathetic' may not be precisely the right word for him, but intriguing. Araki genuinely accomplished making him charismatic in spite of his hypocrisy, that much is self-evident by his lasting appeal among fans. It's a guilty pleasure kind of sympathy, it invites you to walk in his shoes and think "Well, I'd do THIS if everyone was trying to get me" while ignoring the fact everyone is right to try to get him.
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>>275240311
but eva is dogshit the mc is a literal twink faggot
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>>275250103
I agree with you but it doesn't help the couple he killed were scumbags and he was a better husband to Shinobu than Kosaku
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>>275245728
Not sure if sympathetic is the right word, but it great when he blew up shitgenchi. It was really hard to sincerely hate him after that.
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>>275250103
>The obvious hypocrisy he never even considers really pisses me off
At least Okuyasu specifically calls him out on this
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>>275241523
It's not aiming for realism. Just think of it as watching an anime, it's unironically not that different.
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>>275243320
the obvious joke poking fun. Araki definitely thinks that MC should be inspiring but doesn't mean that I. serious conversation he would go around trying to prove that portrayal of shinji is wrong. JoJo and Eva are completely different story. one has main character sending villain to outer space with volcanic eruption, the another is about unstable traumatized child soldier involuntarily being burdened with survival of humanity.
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>>275237194
Wow true
>>275237727
It's a comfy show
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>>275237194
There are some superficial parallels but they're pretty fucking weak.
A major aspect of Leland's possession is his internal struggle as a good man, while Kira outright replaces Hayato's dad who seemed pretty shitty already.
They're both contrasting evil with everyday living but that's not really unique and it's pretty shallow in Jojo; Kira just talks about wanting a normal life and then does the most insane shit.
Typical retard fan theory take basically.
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>>275243402
Determination and ambition are the main themes of SBR and it's not fucking subtle in the slightest.
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>>275237727
It is the best series ever created. There will never be another.
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>>275245174
His emphysema had advanced too much even before his death to make that very likely.
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>>275256976
Maybe most meaningful TV show ever but the cheesy on purpose parodic shit gets really tiresome, there are totally unresolved plots and most of the second season is absolute garbage.
Compared to 99% of TV it's a masterpiece and Fire Walk with Me is insanely good.
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>>275237194
it's surprising how many nips are fans of Lynch and many of them are working in the games/anime/manga industry
it's a shame that i didnt check out his work earlier
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>>275257058
The California fires might have actually killed Lynch.
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a random irrelevant salaryman in jojo world
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>>275245728
In particular blaming his urge to kill on the fact that his fingernails grow quickly makes me feel like he's a complete schizo rather a naturally evil person.
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>>275257839
We also viewed a lot of the story from Kira's perspective. The readers were shown how neurotic and stressed he was about getting caught, and how far he was willing to go in order to bring things back to "normal". From that perspective it's like the heroes were a disturbance. The guy was a sicko obviously but Araki did a good job portraying a man who felt the walls crashing down on him, which is something that's easy for a lot of people to identify with.
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>>275257504
Most people are retards that only consume garbage in Japan and the West. If you want interesting media you'll seek it out regardless of language or culture.
Is it surprising that lots of artsy fags in the west love Kurosawa or Park Chan-wook?
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>>275257684
Imagine how bad the air quality is right now...
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>>275257794
Based
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Is cinema now officially dead? The new directors have no life experiences.
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>>275258399
Lynch didn't either, that's why none of his characters act like humans



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