So now that we're in chapter 31, what do we think of it? Yami's at her lowest once more and on the verge of quitting school again, but this is also the first time Yami and Hikari meet, which produce less than stellar results for their first impression of one another. Now I'm wondering what Yom will do to make them best friends before the end of the first year, since Hikari called Yami her best Friend in previous chapters.Also, I know it's been mentioned, but Yami really likes self-destructing her life.
>>275242116>So now that we're in chapter 31, what do we think of it?Honestly, kind of sad to see Yami revert back to being a hostile bitch to people after spending months with Yuu. I really thought Yuu would at least change her for the better, but all he did is make her worse. I can’t tell if the author did that as a sort of message that relying on one person is bad, or if Yami was always like that but just hid it from Yuu.
>>275242116I think the author should have had Yami dating and befriending Hikari at the same time. Would lessen the complaints against him and the whole flashback arcs if people knew from the start. That’s my only real complaint I have against 31. Other than that, I’m just waiting to see how Hikari and Yami become friends.
>>275242337She's not as bad as before (so far), but she gave up her happiness to comfort her mom, and it hasn't worked out. She actually would've been happier and healthier continuing to rely on Yuu rather than trying to go it alone.
>>275242116Quit school and go full time prostitute?
>>275242116God she's so hot you just want to rape her until she's a mother of 3.How much biting are we talking here?
I want to see a cat fight, and not just a slap in the face. I want full hair grab and scraching
>>275242663>She's not as bad as before (so far)She kind of is. She never lashed out on others, even when meeting Yuu, she at least was cordial with him despite trying to corrupt him later, but here Yami is just being mean to others reaching out >but she gave up her happiness to comfort her mom, and it hasn't worked out. She actually would've been happier and healthier continuing to rely on Yuu rather than trying to go it alone.Agreed, but Yami think she deserves to be alone as a form of atonement and punishment
>>275242851Soon, it will happen once we go back to the present. Hikari won’t lose Yuu without a fight
>>275242912She was mostly depressed before. Now she's crabbier due to daily friction with her mom, but she isn't selling herself or thinking of emotionally scarring others (so far).
>>275243169She is quitting school only after a short time. And Yuu has been desperate to get her back to school.
>>275242851Never going to happen. The blond girl is too much of a coward to ever fight for her love.
>>275242116I hope Yami keeps being miserable for the rest of her life.
>>275242116Chapter 31 and the following subsequent chapters are going to be reflect poorly on Ayami due to chapter 21. Hikari went out of her way to befriend and save Ayami from darkness and she repays Hikari by stealing her man during the festival. A poor look no matter how you try to rationalize it.
>>275242116Now that I think about it, Hikari and Yuu really have that “I can fix them” mentality. Ain’t no way both of them thought they can fix Yami.
>>275243461On the same day, as it were. She was hoping to fix her life before, but here it was mostly to book some time away from home to de-stress.>classroom>de-stressYeah.
>>275243711Man, we've seen Hikari can be jealous as heck. It's Yami who's got three stacks of guilt to throw off if this impulsive kiss needs more premeditated followup.
>>275244320Yeah, but we never seen Hikari willing to fight another girl for Yuu's love. And don't bring up Seki, she hid like a coward when Seki confess.
>>275244513She dragged Yuki away from flirting with him.
>>275244611Yeah, a friend, not a random girl. You really think if another girl goes to his house and confess, Hikari would intervene?
>>275244666What does that have to do with Yami?
>>275244723Because it shows that Hikari is willing to cuck herself because she isn't aggressive enough to ward off other women.
>>275244666Yami is a friend.
>>275242337>I really thought Yuu would at least change her for the betterthe manga went out of its way to say that she had to fix herself, it was even explicitly stated
>>275244780Still a love rival.
>>275242116I really hope we get to see more of bitchy Yami. I was hoping she would be the same with Yuu, but wasn’t.
>>275244908Sort of, but she tried with that mindset, and it went wrong. I think the message is that you should also trust and lean on others in the process.
>>275244170I think she'd been back at school for a little while before the confrontation with Hikari. They wouldn't have started working on the culture festival the first day back, and yami already has a reputation as evidenced by haru and Yuki watching the exchange nervously as it starts
>>275245495She literally says it's her first day back at school in both versions, at the end of the chapter.>I'm Sudou Ayami. Today was the first day back to school.>And I've officially decided, this time for sure, I'm dropping out.
>>275245495>and yami already has a reputation as evidenced by haru and Yuki watching the exchange nervously as it startsThat's just because a grumpy delinquent showed up at her desk out of nowhere for the first time partway through the year.
>>275245225those are not mutually exclusive. people need support but also no shit being with yuu didn't fix her problems indirectly
>>275245660Ah, I was wrong. Maybe everyone in class already knows she repeated a year, then. Did she have to introduce herself?
>>275246028>Did she have to introduce herself?That would make sense. Otherwise they may have just been wondering what the random new girl's deal was.
>>275246371But wait, no, she would've corrected her last name during the introduction if that were the case, and it's not too likely for Hikari to have missed that as class rep.
>>275242116I actually like it that we get to see Hikari and Yami become friends. Gives us a closer look at how other people perceive Hikari and maybe we will see how strong their friendship really is once we get back to the festival.
>>275246568So she basically showed up randomly after the term started and slept through all of homeroom
>She knows that her best friend is in love with a boy >kisses that boy.literally ntr wtf
>>275247367Oh, she's done a lot more than just kissing the boy, believe you me.
>>275247438chapter 21I mean after they broke up and she knew her friend liked himShe's the one who jumped on him, Just look at the place of the hands, she's the traitorous whore.
Just caught up and holy fuck I feel so bad for the fmc.Also. I thought this was based on a web novel? Can´t seem to find it anywhere.
>waaaaaaaa feel sorry for me!!!!lmao
>>275247569The manga and web novel chapters are being released simultaneously, so you can't read ahead for spoilers. Both are on here:https://note.com/saranamiTranslations for the novel chapters are here:https://xxddmm.neocities.org/
>>275247546She's going to make another face when she finds out they've fucked each other multiple times.
>>275242116What I don’t understand is why doesn’t Hikari, the most popular girl in school and a social expert, simply force Yuu into a relationship? All of their friends think they’re in a relationship, their parents ship them with one another, and everyone at school already thinks Yuu is Hikari’s boyfriend. What’s just stopping her from forcing Yuu into a relationship with her? It’s not like we’ve seen Yuu reject someone outright and he buckles under pressure. It’ll be an easy win for her.
>>275247637Thanks, anon. I assume there are some discrepancies between the WN and the manga for the former to need it´s own TLs. Right?
>>275247811There's more detail/narration, and sometimes parts of scenes that didn't make it into the manga. Also, one version of 25.1 is reality, and the other is Yami's fantasy.
>>275248093>25.1I mean 25.5.
Yea the characters are gay or whatever but when is the pantyhose girl gonna show up this IS yom
>>275247797>It’s not like we’ve seen Yuu reject someone outrightPlease do not forget your cute kouhai
>>275248255Less of a rejection and more of clearing up a misunderstanding. Hikari, however, would not give Yuu the chance to deflect nor admit anything else.
>>275233971you are barely even defending the work, assuming you're even the ones defending it. it's like 10%. the rest is you defending yourself, likely your ego, for reading it, by lashing out in passive aggression.>the only unshameful way of engaging with the workyou seem to think it's supposed to be shameful thing for enjoying the work. I've called the work bad, but not you for reading it, unless in jest.I wrote this before seeing the thread was archived, thankfully this mid comic gets a rolling general. I hate unsubstantive bickering with anons with mental issues past the thread it was in so I won't make any further replies. now's the time to get your last word in, give me your best zingers (I won't read them)
>>275249211Projection: the post.
>>275247618>ruins everything because of a massive woman moment Hikari deserves to win. Yami is too retarded to be allowed to potentially breed.
>>275248463She doesn't have the sociopathy to try it or the composure to pull it off. The best she's done is fail to suppress her butthurt at his surprise hesitancy to attend the festival, letting her guilt-trip him into going.
>>275249359She's got the academic genes, but also the menhera mom genes. Something something gods flip a coin.
>>275247797Yuu is in a different school, so even your retarded plan of peer pressure wouldn't work on him.
>>275249813She could bring their parents into this. Maybe she can say to Yuu's mom they're dating.
>>275249359I’m surprised she’s not pregnant with the amount of bareback sex she had with Yuu.
>>275242116If I’m being honest, Maruto should have just gone back to the kiss. All he’s doing is making Yami look worse if Hikari actually helped her out on some of her issues and I think she won’t recover from that if it’s true.
>>275250831Those with prejudice shall remain prejudiced.
>>275250411>she's not only menhara >she's also barren
>>275250831His definition of "true love" always seemed to be picking up trash though.
>>275250831What if the goal is to make Hikari look better.
>>275251545Would only work if Hikari wins in the end.
>>275251562Not really. If she ends up losing, the catharsis will be a burst of emotions for everyone.
>>275251597I don't know, you're making Hikari into a saint.
>>275251497This is why Setsuna should have won
>>275248463Hikari is such a cuck
>>275252242WA2 is a special case, all three involved are dumpster fires.
>>275252571Not Setsuna, she's very much the victim. With how her father and mother is, compare to Kazusa
>>275242116Yuu's cock belongs to Yami.
>>275252707She's manipulative as fuck, tends to emotionally distance herself from others, suffers from depression too.Someone even mentioned here before that Yami is a fusion of both Kazusa and Setsuna's negative traits and backgrounds. And I can't help but agree with him.
What are Yami and Hikari's biggest flaws?
>>275252810>She's manipulative as fuck, tends to emotionally distance herself from others, suffers from depression too.All because of her family's history. When she fell for Haruki, she didn't want to lose him. Need I remind you that Haruki made a sacred promise to Setsuna to never leave her, but of course, Kazusa had to ruin everything.
>>275252810>tends to emotionally distance herself from othersNo she doesn't.
WA2 is a perfect example where most of the girls would easily be the best ones in any other title. Someone like Koharu would crush the competition in your average manga romcom like it's no big deal.
>>275253113But she does, did you even played the VN?
>>275247797Because it's hazukashi!
>>275252846Hikari: Doesn't realize what is right in front of her until it's too late. Massively delusional. Gets very ugly when jealous. Main character syndrome.Yami: Coward. Literally afraid to be happy because it could end at some point. Has already become the mother she hates so much. The only thing she thinks she can offer in a relationship is her body. Insecurity the size of the gulf of mexico.
gonna read your manga
>>275254261When? In the past that was never shown?
>>275247797We need to wait and see what Hikari does after the kiss. Maybe she will become ruthless in order to get Yuu. There's already been signs of it in the previous chapters.
Are we excited for the serialization? I hope the chapters are longer and include all the details that were left out from the WN chapters, as well as the extra chapters being added into the manga proper.
>>275255185I just hope NTR won't be included in the new serialize work. Pure Vanilla.
>>275255185I'm excited for any new content. And if the serialized version has more meat instead of these short ass biweekly chapters, I'd even be fine with them not releasing new WN/Web manga for half a year or so, all to have a normal schedule and normal chapters.
>>275255185>>275255299I just want a fight between Hikari and Yami, a real oneWhat are the chances?https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Ux8jQtlIhEQ
>>275255231It will be included because the love triangle is the entire premise of the series.
>>275250831>If I’m being honest, Maruto should have just kept my chosen girl perfect instead of fleshing out her characterthe state of you
>>275255717He should have done it on the first arc, after the kiss, all its doing is turning fans against her.
>>275255732the question that is posed at the very beginning of yami's flashback is why aren't yami and yuu still together and the answer is that yami is a mean little bitch who ruins everything she touches
>>275255809Don't come whining when she ruins Hikari's first love too.
>>275255830She already did though. Took all of Yuu's first time.
>>275257037She didn't take his first love though.Yami NTRs Yuu with yuri sex next arc!?!?
So, uh, what was Yami’s role in her parent’s breakup again? Was it ever mentioned? There wasn’t anything illicit going on between the her and the dad going by the fact that he had a mistress. Or was Yami just generally against her mom for some reason? Did she stay with the mom or the dad? Her overall issue seems to stem from self-esteem problem likely rooted in her low sex appeal but I don’t know how (or if) that relates to her family troubles.
>>275257255Read the manga maybe?
>>275257255>what was Yami’s role in her parent’s breakup again?She got proof that he had a mistress and did the entire divorce proceedings, just read the manga.
>>275257281I get I’m too high-IQ for /a/ but whatever I’ll put my analysis. Consider the father had a mistress and the family seemed quite well-off; maybe he was attractive / desirable but the mother was not. Maybe Yami resented the mother for inheriting her looks which is the source of her poor self-esteem. Her major focus on sexual relations could be explained by this.
>>275257545The mother was a clingy, needy menhera. That’s why the new husband wanted to bail the fuck out. He was also a tech-bro and wanted to sleep with Yami.
>>275257545>I get I’m too high-IQ for /a/ but whatever I’ll put my analysisInstead of your analysis just read the manga.
>>275257545The only thing yamommy has going for her is her looks, she has to be smoking hot if second husband was willing to overlook her being a widow with a child and no means of support (especially considering how he's not hard up for pussy)
>>275257708The new husband was a pedo. Yami pretty much confirmed it once he realize Yami was not submitting to him and lost her virginity
>>275255185Has there been any info on the new manga? Will it really have more pages for the earlier chapters and new original chapters?
>>275254974>Gets very ugly when jealous.You got a list of these transgressions? I want to know how badly does she get jealous.
>>275259671Holy shit just read the manga
>>275257849That’s weird. If Yami wanted to sell herself to a random ojisan off the street why would she be adverse to her mom’s new husband? For that matter why couldn’t she just sleep with some boy in her school? It’s wasn’t about money in her case which is the sole reason for JKs to sell themselves. IMO it’s about her boyish figure making her unable get a boyfriend normally and the source of her low self-esteem. If someone was going to pay money for her femininity then at least it had some value, that sort of vibe. That explains why she was so aggressive to sleep with Yuu. Normally a girl would cling to a guy above her desirability level but artistic allowances must be made for entertainment I guess.
>>275261720>>275261405
>>275261405Eh, a condensed list would be good to have so we can have a clear overview of their faults.
>>275261720She's a masochistic mentally ill woman. So punishing herself for her feelings of directionlessness and ennui in the face of familial collapse by fucking old men for money, fits in. But at the same time, she has a savior complex towards her mother. So going out of her way to document her Step-Father's transgressions (and knowing that he tried to fuck her) and then throwing away her own love-life for the sake of being on the same plane as her mother, also fits.
>>275263785To make a condensed list you need to read the fucking manga first.
>>275253085I have no interest in your holy waifu wars regarding WA2. I just said all three main characters were dumpster fires and you don't see to disagree so whatever. As why I brought this up ITT? Yuu and Hikari, for now, are nowhere close to being a dumpster fire in their actions.
>>275264341That's OP doing his usual bait schtick anyway.>Yuu and Hikari, for now, are nowhere close to being a dumpster fire in their actions.I have high hopes for the two of them.
>>275257849>sexual relationship with two separate adult women>pedoYou're going to have to choose
>>275265029Low IQ bro that means absolutely nothing. You think every pedo is single? More often than not they're married and have kids of their own.
>>275265029Anon, stop being blind to the facts b
>>275264077And I have, but it doesn't mean I remember every single detail in every chapter.
>>275266257Maybe reread to have the full facts to your condensed list
>>275266257More like you have no clue what was going on in last 10 chapters at all. Not just details, you don't know anything, retard.
>>275266422I get that Yami had a terrible life, wanted to ruin Yuu, ended up falling for him, tried to fix her life in the most self-destructive way possible, kinda ghosted him by the end of their relationship, and is currrently considering dropping out of school again by the time she meets Hikari, she's not the one I need details on.
>>275267477Here's your last (You) for today.
>>275267580Well, you gonna give the deets or not?
>>275268104No
>>275257662But I want to talk about the story
>>275269522So you don't want to discuss the manga then.
>>275255597I want them to fight as well. I hope the author doesn’t pussy out.
>>275264341>Yuu and Hikari, for now, are nowhere close to being a dumpster fire in their actions.Not Yet, we will have to wait and see what Maruto does later on in the series. Because again, we're in Yami time now.
>>275242116I love bad bitches so much. Shame she’s “normal” in the present.
>>275244908She never did fix herself. That’s the running theme of her character arc. Every time she tries to better herself, she makes it worse for herself. I wouldn’t be surprised if helping Hikari to get Yuu was also a form of bettering herself by letting go and just blowing up on her.
>>275261720>If Yami wanted to sell herself to a random ojisan off the street why would she be adverse to her mom’s new husbandShe tells us why. Did you even read her chapters?
>>275257197>She didn't take his first love though.Honestly, I just reread the second arc and I think Yami actually did take Yuu's love. Yuu's love for Hikari was more akin to a childish crush than anything else, whereas Yuu seems to be in love with Yami to the point he doesn't want to cause her any stress.
>>275274086Also something of a Kazusa trait. I'm not sure if there's room left in the plot for her to break that self-help losing streak, unless it's to finally be more verbally honest about her feelings (hopefully not when it's too late).
>>275276695Under that theory, Yuu could fall in love with Hikari romantically this time, and do a meme titledrop. I HATE IT
>>275277297You know that's how it will play out in the end.
>Hikari cucks Yuu for someone elseA shame but he'll live>Yami cucks Yuu for someone elseINCINERATUS
>>275278470It's been a year and she still hasn't moved on from Yuu. I doubt she would cheat on him for someone else
>>275278470I doubt Hikari would go for someone else, she fell hard for Yuu
>>275247677I can already see the confrontation where she calls Yami a floozy slut who should've been content with her many other men instead of preying on Ta-kun too, only for the truth to come out.
>>275279813And I will be so angry if Yami rolls with it and plays the villain to make things simpler for the other two.
>>275280072Or maybe Yami actually does go full villain
>>275280589Not a chance.
>>275280741There’s always a chance. Yami is mentally unhinged.
>>275281319You might as well speculate on Hikari going full yandere, because they're equally likely, i.e. never gonna happen.
>>275281649Hikari does get jealous and possessive about Yuu. So there’s always that.
>>275278470>Yuu cucks both for someone else
>>275282549He already cucked them with each other. Then there's seki.
>>275282594I wonder what Yami thinks of Seki. She did tell him to enjoy his youth and all, but I assume she would be mad.
>>275282784Seki is so insignificant she wouldn't even care.
>>275283175Yeah, but she now has confirmation that Yuu went on dates with other women.
>>275283226Hikari literally told her about Seki and she didn't even ask any questions because she didn't give a fuck, she cared much more about his words about already being in love with another girl.
>>275283226When is this chapter getting translated? How can the Mexican beat the English TL group?
>>275283852WN chapter is already translated and that's all that matters.
>>275283876I also want the manga chapter
