how come with isekai it's always some loser that gets transported to another world?you never read any stories like chad smith, star high school quarterback, gets transported to a fantasy world and fucks up the demon king with elf bitches begging for his cock.
>>275243792Which part of wish fulfillment fantasy don't you understand?
Target audience
>>275243792this type of anime is not for you
>>275243792There's a show about a Red Ranger getting isekai'd airing right fucking now.
>>275243928Thats a superhero being brought to fantasy, not exactly the same as normal but succesful person brought to isekai land.
>>275243985There's a show about a successful in both business and family man getting isekai'd airing right fucking now.
>>275243792Actually it would be cool to watch Chad get isekai'd and his life becomes shit and he sucks at everything there
anon, please... that's all they have, don't take it away...
>>275243792The proto-isekai: A story where a fatso neet otaku gets truck'd, gets reincarnated by a goddess and given cheat skills in a 1:1 copy of DQ, he goes back to a teen and a handsome body, the Hero class in his status screen, then teams up with a harem of cute girls, a priestess and kingdom princess included to defeat a demon lord commanding the monster army, then after winning goes back to earth to being a wagecuck fatso again.The proto-villainess: A dungeon crawler persona-like where the MC is a peasant girl with extremely rare light element magic in a magic academy and cucks most of the important femoids in the kingdom (including the "villainess" that is betrothed to the crown prince) by resolving the personal and emotional problems of the 4-6 capture targets to get a reverse harem and get railed all night before going off to defeat the demon lord as the final boss of the game in the third year of school.The proto-shoelacer: A wagie isekaijin eventually ends up being part of the hero's party as a support with his CF, but gets kicked out of the party for not doing enough DPS despite him handling basically all the logistics of dungeon crawling and even inn reservations for the retards, then the party falls apart, the CF alongside his party try to attack him but he BTFOs them all and gets a harem of his own.The proto-huntershit: Modern current earth, but suddenly portals into "dungeons" appear and monsters start invading earth, then people all over the world start awakening to vidya classes and start fighting back against the monsters, timeskip like 5 years and now the dungeon crawling is a corpo bureaucratic dystopia where people would rather let stampedes happen than give up their copyright to a portal, and the MC is a rank F weakling cuck that accidentally finds a super secret powerup in some rando ass dungeon and becomes the strongest in the world bar none.How come the only one people can find 1:1 examples of is the gookshit one?
>>275243792I think that would kinda work as a parody of fantasy isekai.
>>275243792Sentai red isekai is airing right now.
>>275243792At this point you have to fight for scraps to find a series about an actual loser that gets isekai'd, even if you count parody goysloppa.
I think you are being retarded on purpouse so you can get something like that recommended, but is still so common that you don't deserve to be spoonfed.
>introduces the fantasy masses to cheeseburgers and fries
>>275243792I don't think there are many quarterbacks in Japan, maybe there are more now after Americans lost to Japan in American football that one time, now if you said star highschool pitcher or slugger then your premise might be believable.
>>275245630ESL?
>>275243792You pretty much described Flash Gordon, just instead of being spirited away to another world he is kidnapped by a mad scientist and taken there on a rocket ship.
>>275243792>it's always some loser that gets transported to another world?It isn't. You clearly haven't seen much isekai if you think this.
>>275245630 Exactly this. People seem to think "successful" means they never screw up, but the whole point is often that their prior success didn’t translate when it mattered most. Isekai thrives on that "second chance" narrative—if everyone was perfect and invincible from the start, there’d be no room for growth or redemption, which is what drives a lot of these stories.
>>275246104>Isekai thrives on that "second chance" narrativesuch as?i will give you a bone and point out MT fails at this when the MC dies a fulfilled cuck that didn't even participate on the final fight, the destined chosen one is one of his daughters
>>275243792May I introduce you to "Bakudanma na Youhei, Douji Shoukan sareta Saikyou Cheat-domo wo Katappashi kara Keshitobasu" (what a mouthful).
>>275243792Its escapism for anyone who doesn't have a particularly interesting or busy life.
>>275246219>generic murderhobo shitwill be surprised if it lasts till march
>>275243792>chad smith, star high school quarterback is what burger looks up toIt looks grim and bleak in the land of freedom.
>>275246289Most westoids never grow out of high school from what I have noticed.
what about a wild west fantasy isekai? with cowgirl elves?
>>275246997I would read a Firefly isekai.
>>275246997or you could just write it as a regular story? why does it need to be isekai?
>>275247731Animeifying old westerns you say?
>>275243792Is the Trope of the Losers and mere commoners become the strongest, i hate it.
>>275247781>>275245287
>>275247825And it was the most overused and full of generic and annoying cliches.
>>275247988dont you just love the E ranker who regressed that is actually SSS rank with a sick mom?
>>275248023No, they all end up as the same thing.
>>275247781why is the same person pasted 16 times?
>>275243792>the only isekai I know is mt xdOne word.Watch. More. Anime.
>>275248348The Kirito trope
>>275247781Anime has often been about underdogs becoming powerful when you think about it. It's not an isekai thing.
>>275243792You got the titan's bride, which had a 6 foot jock get transported to a world where everyone by default is taller than 6 feet. And thanks to that wraps around very quickly to being seen as a cute, delicate uke
>>275244014>>275243985A show about a successful anime director getting isekai'd RIGHT NOW tooOP is three times wrong and three times a faggot
Was Tanya unsuccessful or just a douche?
>>275251459But is a Cliche, the most overused one.
I think there was a judo guy goes to fantasy world comic
>>275243792That exists, it's called Flash Gordon
>>275247781Matthias was already the strongest before he reincarnated.
>>275251705Who on the heck is "Matoppamus"?
>>275247781>>275248348>Why do those generic black-haired, black-eyed Asians all look the same? IRL Asia is generic! IRL Asia is the fast food of IRL!
>>2752517133rd row, 2nd column
How many chad smith, star high school quarterbacks do you think that watch isekai animes?
>>275251723what happened to that dude on the left?
>>275243792> always
>>275243792You are wrong. >Knight's & Magic: Admired Ace Programmer >Youjo Senki: HR Middle Manager >Tensura: General Contractor Middle Manger >Red Ranger: Sentai Hero >Yakuza Reincarnation: Legendary Yakuza >World's Finest Assassin: Best Assassin in the World >Ride On King: President of a NationJust to give a few examples off the top of my head.
>>275246104>there’d be no room for growth or redemptionthere's no growth or redemption in average isekai anyway. it's hilarious how this little detail can turn any isekai from 3 to 7 singlehandedly yet Japs insist on solely making their characters Gary tsus for whom whole world bends over backwards. Hilariously enough if even smallest of details were taken from how MCs from Re:Zero and MT interact with the new world, isekai genre could actually be respectable but for consumer base big titty elf harem is much more interesting.
>>275243792Why would a jap mangaka write about a lesser gaijin? Why would you want an inferior product
>>275245954>You pretty much described Flash Gordon
>>275243792how come so many people just accept OP's premise even if it's provably wrong?
>>275254731Why do people keep parroting this meme when a lot of isekai that lasts for longer than 2 LN vols has more detail than tolkienslop?
>>275243792I really like emote girls
>>275255043because "so many people" on modern /a/ are just antijapan guerilla jeets doing the job they got paid to doyesterday and 2 days ago they were even shilling literal youtube slop videos but they quickly pivoted out of it after being called out
>>275243792There are a fuck ton of isekai about skilled successful people getting transported. They're generally the same shit as the loser ones despite the framing though.
>>275255105cant even remember the last true loser isekai that wasn't parody goyslopaside from like MT, which got retroactively retconned by making rudeus just a generic smart but lazy and unmotivated genius that could akshually do anything he wanted if he tried but never had the motivation to
>>275243792>gets transported to a fantasy world and fucks up the demon king with elf bitches begging for his cock.that's what ends up happening anyway, so you may as well have the original character be something your target audience will identify with.
>>275243819So the entire modern anime audience consists of losers.
>>275246311So kinda like most anime fans and anime protagonists, then.
>>275255317>and anime protagonistsironically enough they tend to be far more mature for their years, unless they are actual adults, then they tend to act like manchildren like rudeus which westoids find relatable
>>275255344>Animeonly.Grim.
There’s a sub-genre of strong MCs. Off the top of my head there’s two different isekai where the MC is an Agent 47-tier assassin before being isekai’d. HOWEVER, the MC being a NEET loser is also a small sub-genre; the huge majority of MCs are “unfortunate average salaryman / student”.
>>275255476>the huge majority of MCs are “unfortunate average salaryman / student”.People like hajime are hardly average when they were already military engineers with two different careers unrelated to that on front of him after finishing HS, and that's the one that actually spawned the whole "betrayed by x" and would later devolve into shoelacer slop, AND the "classroom isekai" genres from how influential it was.Then you have ones like cid that are just deranged geniuses that managed to become the best doctor on the planet, the best gymbro, the best martial artist, the best vigilante, and more while still getting cultured in the arts, all before even getting isekai'd.Relatively common often cited examples like kirito (not isekai I know) turn out to not be the case either when he's an autistic superhacker, and ones like satou turn out to be hardly normal and questionably even human.Even arafoos that are "totally normal I pinky fucking promise" end up betraying the premise by making the guy actually an autistic genius with tons of practice in some random ass thing.
>>275255476>MC is an Agent 47-tier assassin at least in one he's tasked to kill The hero with limited resources so at least it's uphill battle.
>>275243792Because millions of men are "losers" who need actual help. At least they get scapism.
>>275255476>Off the top of my head there’s two different isekai where the MC is an Agent 47-tier assassin before being isekai’d.four if you count the VRslop ones
>>275254731Re:Zero is one of the worst series I have seen. Given the way the author writes the characters, it's obvious he never interacts with real people. Taking it as a reference will only result in crappy series.
>>275251459Kenshiro, Goku, Gon, Luffy, Toriko, Yusuke were all strong from chapter 1.
>>275255058>>275255043>there are still retards at itlol. goes to show that people are npc/sheeple/npcsheepoids
>>275255848I said the system being good. Isekaijin getting transported and having basically no barriers is as stupid as it gets. Subaru's attempts at overcoming the blocks through getting right people together is what makes it interesting. Tappei though is definitely autistic so interactions on individual level suffer in quality.
>>275256000>and having basically no barriersMangaonly?
>>275243792I just want an isekai where the generic hero journeys to save the world and actually defeats the demon king without any subversion, i don't care if they're a wimp or not
>>275256127that gets referenced to hell and back but doesn't actually existwelcome to modern ironic weeb genres
