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What went wrong?
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>>275246179
Everything. Ken stopped giving a fuck and lost some of his key assistants who helped carry hard in Negima.
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>>275246179
dude dropped his UQs
they're all over the fucking ground holy shit
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>>275246204
The one who knew Greek and such? Why don't they just google it or something?
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>>275246179
Everything
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Reminder to read only chapter 137 to 140.
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Nothing it's perfect
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>>275246179
Being Negima sequel.
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Nothing, Negima is pure garbage compared to this.
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>>275246179
Everything. Lil bro thought he was cooking with his harem, but the MC is a total faggot so it just comes off as pandering to fat fucks.
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>>275246179
His life
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>>275246179
maleshit and hetshit
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>>275246179
Everything.
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My friends and I watched UQ holder by accident when we wanted to watch negima, it seems all the torrents for negima were mislabeled and were for that instead. Aside from being annoyed by that fustercluck and the one tranny character it was ok I guess.
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>>275250155
>>275250240
Shitposting doesn't count
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>>275246179
Everything
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>>275250329
It's not mislabeled. The anime is titled UQ Holder - Negima 2 because they knew nobody would give a shit otherwise.
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>>275246179
It suffered really badly from the insane power creep that took over the last 1/3 of Negima.
Touta was a nothing character. I can't even think of any character traits outside of him being chipper.
The story was entirely predicated on Negi being an enormous failure, which turns Negima into a completely different story and leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
It wasn't completely terrible, though.
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>>275251763
I really don't understand why they need to split into two timelines. Just make the sequel about high school or something instead of star wars shit.
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>>275246179
Nothing. It was kino.
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I read negima for cute girls in a fantasy school setting. I hate the author for turning it into a powerlevel jerk-off. And he kept it up with UQ holder.
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>>275251289
Yue and Nodoka clear the entire uqh cast
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>>275246179
He was still salty about Negima and then lost interest in wrapping up all the plot threads in UQ Holder so just rushed towards the finish line
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>>275253963
The hell he was salty about? His favorite girl didn't get to the top weekly ranks or something?
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>>275253925
Library Trio is the best
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Anons,
I loved Love Hina (The manga, the anime was really bad and I didn't even finish) and dropped Negima years back at some point - can't remember why, it wasn't quality. Maybe I just couldn't get scanlations for it at the time. Is it worth finishing? And how does this other series relate?
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>>275246204
>I'm going to keng/a/n! Hear their author aremt hack
Lol
Lmao even
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It moved away from comedy/romance with occasional shounen to full shounen with I guess some comedy and romance if there was free time.
It moved to a cast that simply didn't compare to the Negima girls, they were all variants of the "we have it at home" meme.
It didn't give any fulfilling resolution to anything related to Negima, which is what people actually cared about, so without that addressed nobody really cared about the "new stakes" when the old ones weren't touched
Also Touta is an extremely cliche'd "genki" MC with nothing going on with him other than being nice. The worst.

I could go on.
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Totally is a shitty MC. Ironically if everything else about UQ holder was the same but touta was omitted entirely it'd probably be pretty good
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OP is a spamming faggot autist
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>>275257636
Is it worth finishing?
Kinda. Depends on your opinion of the ending
And how does this other series relate?
A bit complicated.
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>>275257945
Which one is more hack?
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>>275246179
>Read it
>Like it a lot
>But around half way it went from fighting manga to some harem comedy with barely any fights
>People here told me that prequel had better fights
>Check it
>It's even MORE ecchi harem bullshit

Man what the fuck
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>>275261767
It is a harem series originally
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>>275261767
Akamatsu wanted to go full battle manga with Negima, but he was forced to do a harem manga. So he complied, but transitioned it into a battle manga that had a bunch of harem shit going on to appease the magazine.
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>>275255297
He had to end the series early for a few reasons that I forget now. Maybe a contract dispute with the publisher or some law being passed, something like that.
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>>275257636
Negima was excellent for 2/3 of its run. Things very quickly went downhill once the author decided to speedrun the DBZ power creep formula in the last 1/3 of the manga after which none of the characters felt vulnerable, which made them less interesting.
>>275261767
At the time Ken started Negima, he was transitioning from harem romcom author to shonen author, so the first 20 chapters or so read like something from love hina. It gets better after that.
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>>275246179
The fanservice was better than negima, but literally everything else was worse. The way to read it is to just scroll through the manga looking at the tits and ignoring everything use, just like with mato seihei.
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>>275246179
Everything
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>>275246204
Heh
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>>275246204
Is Akamatsu still in polĂ­tica? I wanna go to one of his public speeches and ask about Negi mom?
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>Set up a romance arc between Touta and Eva during the time arc, which was ultimately more natural than what she had with Negi or Nagi. Where Touta is the first person she ever got close to, but also the one she ended up raising, in a weird quasi time paradox almost incest situation. They had a lot of good development early on
>Story gets confused about halfway in because the author just turned it into Negima 2, and dropped Touta and Eva's whole development together. Negi literally just took over the story
>re-re-re-introduce Negi and eva, and Nagi and eva romance into the story to throw a bone to Negimafags, even though she was never the one he was into, and even the relationship on her end was barely a thing halfway into the series. It just feels like fanservice for something that ultimately doesn't serve anyone since Negi ended up with the basic bitch tsundere girl in the end, the one with glasses.
>Blah blah blah a bunch of meaningless shit happens
>Lifemaker gets away with everything despite being proven to just be an asshole who was wrong, and warped magic for billions of years because of something they were wrong about
>Hundred billion years later Touta is still basically second or third place for Eva, while everyone else moved on billions of years ago
>Its treated like "finally they can get together", but shit its already been billions of years, who cares
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>>275246179
Changing the whole personality of Eva and then try to pretend she was the same character
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>>275267918
he got elected
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>>275268625
She also should have dropped the adult form once Touta found out about the ruse.
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>>275268823
yeah, that too
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>>275268519
You sound like someone who didn't read it but chose to get mad over second hand information
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>>275246204
>they aren't eva's feet but they'll do
>bro wtf
kek
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Rather than ever commit to a plot or storyline and see it through, UQ holder always decided to just say "Fuck it" and introduce a different one entirely.

This happened way too often.
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>>275267918
I reckon so, proudly touting for the preservation of anime and manga while his party actively works to legislate against that.
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>>275246204
The skeleton /a/rmy was the best part of those threads.
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>>275246179
I was so pissed when, and how, Negima ended that I've never picked it up.
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>>275273724
Might as well post the last one while I'm at it.
>>275273753
UQ Holder's ending was even worse and less conclusive than Negima's without the excuse of proposed legislation that would heavily fuck over creatives.
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>>275273934
It was a very fun storytime at least.
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>>275246179
Has it finally ended?
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>>275274566
Yup, almost 3 years ago.
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>>275274631
Damn, last I remember was Touta going into space and fucking Judas for 3 years or something like that and Kirie fucking all over the house which was hot as fuck but I don't remember anything after, am I far from the end? I might finish it if I'm not that far from the end.
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>>275274758
The order of events is a blur to me at this point so I don't know for certain, sorry.
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>>275274758
Being fucked all over the house was chapter 184 and it ended at 192.
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>>275273934
>less conclusive than Negima's
What do you mean by that? Sure there was potential to spend more time with the characters but the plot was over
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>>275268625
Not just that. It retconned her past too. I hate that Magia Erebea inspired by Touta instead of figuring it out by herself.
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>>275275710
It's the fate of the rest of the characters other than Touta & crew or Negi & harem. Nagi? Rakan? Chamo?The girls who participated in the last battle that is not in Negi's harem?
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>>275276854
Who?
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>>275253925
They deserved better
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>>275275553That gives me an idea thanks.
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>>275274631
Is it possible to make a LN spin-off of it with Ken's permission?
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>>275277204
Some things should have happened in Negima.
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>>275276922
The fucker knew what he was doing when he pulled this shit.
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>>275278629
HAAAAAAAAAACK
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>>275278629
>The fucker knew what he was doing when he pulled this shit.
I'm not convinced he did
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>>275246179
What even was the story? I could not tell what kind of story was supposed to be told with this. The main character just sort of fucks around and occasionally runs into someone from Negima that is kind of an asshole now.

They were undefeatable godmode by the fourth story arch. So it was glowing shonen battles with no point really early on.
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>>275253492
Fucking this.

I loved the first half for like most of the class were secret RPG job characters in high school and they did school shenanigans with magic powers.

Then it turned into standard battle shonen waste of time and I could not give a fuck. It just turned into a completely different series in a completely different setting.
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>>275280208
He wrote a shounen where the premise is all of the protagonists are immortal then realized why that was a bad idea but couldn't pivot.
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>>275280269
It IS a bad idea, because there is no stake in fights. Bystanders or civilians could be the stake for immortals, but Akamatsu is too pussy to do just that, so he brought in Kirie to retcon every civilian casualty.
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>>275280269
Narita got the right idea by just letting the immortal characters have little zany adventures over the decades.
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>>275246179
They turned a good harem into a boring generic battle manga. They fucked up the later half of Love Hina, then did the same stupid shit in Negima and UQHolder is just pure turd right from the start
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>>275280523
I wonder if the series works as LN format instead of manga.
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Should have just stuck with Negima.
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>>275280453
>Bystanders or civilians could be the stake for immortals
Killing civilians makes you awesome.
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>>275246179
Broke up Negi and his entire harem, even his actual harem when he got Nodoka, Yue, and Evangeline.
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>>275281911
>copied Kishimoto's Obito
what a hack
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>>275282014
This is why Kirie's power is bullshit; it erased any kind of repercussions. No risk at all. Even the mind virus or orbital elevator being destroyed at the last segment has no impact at all.
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>>275282175
The elevator didn't get blown up because best boy Gengoro took care of it
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>>275246179
Not enough Chao.
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>>275246179
I've only read the chapter or two where the immortal girl floats through space for 40 years, but that at least was fantastic.
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>>275246179
I watched it on the tv's anime channel without knowing anything about Negima
Yukihime was cute
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>>275282226
>Became a deus ex machina in the ending of both series
Absolute hack
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>>275246179
It's pretty basic story wise, but the art is great. I enjoyed it. Really excellent use of blender + inks made for really immersion fight scenes and vast open spaces that few mangaka can capture. While Miura is a better draftsman on the whole, even some of his earlier chapters feel more spatially compressed, like a Bierstadt painting, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it feels ore "cramped." After Conviction Miura largely solved that issue, and presented many breathtaking vistas, but I appreciate Akamatsu admitting he needs cg and committing to it right from the start. It lends his work a consistency and the locations in UQ Holder are all very fun to read on the age. Some of the later fights in particular have some sick perspective shots in the city, on Inverse Mars, and it made the sexo scenes in the last arc all look really nice. I hope Akamatsu eventually makes a full on slice of life series because his style would be incredible for it.
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>>275282463
The background and art is great, but the plot and the characters leave a bad taste in my mouth.
>I hope Akamatsu eventually makes a full on slice of life series because his style would be incredible for it.
That. Or one-man journey to close all the plotholes.
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>>275282224
By Isekai power no less
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>>275280263
>I loved the first half for like most of the class were secret RPG job characters in high school and they did school shenanigans with magic powers.
The Magic World is mostly inspired by Final Fantasy.
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>>275282175
Having her age near the end was a bad type of consequence.
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>>275282014
Well, she does look pretty cool.
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>>275273934
It feels like Ken basically decided that he was going to give up his creative works for the sake of protecting everyone else's creative works by going into politics.
It really sucks considering just how good Negima was at its peak that we never got any real closure despite essentially getting two opportunities.
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>>275274758
He fucks all three love interests in basically 3 sequential chapters and the manga ends like almost directly afterwards. It's actually really funny just how blatant the sprint to the finish line was.
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>>275246179
It was a dumpster fire, but the story time for UQ Holder was one of my favorite times on /a/ simply for the collective shitposting and actually putting out a good amount of OC. As another anon said, the skeleton /a/rmy was peak comedy and I'm happy to have contributed to it.



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