This is Saito. He is the first generic isekai protagonist. Say something nice about him.
>>275252354I vaguely recognized him as a soulless self-insert kinda guy even back then. Still wasn't a fresh trope. I think we can go earlier than that.
>>275252354I've always wondered how much Zero no Tsukaima influenced the modern Isekai genre.
>>275252354Nope. Isekai completely and utterly destroyed the "violent tsundere" trope such as Louise, so isekai is more like the anti-thesis to ZnT.
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>>275252354His wife Charlotte is very cute
When do they fuck?
>>275253700they don't, then the author died so it's double never with a cherry on top
>>275252354I would kill so much people just to have what he having
>>275252354Its the first and best isekai ever made.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dx4ewFve_k
>>275252354Me on the left side
>>275253911Instantly takes me back. Why can't modern isekai be like this? It's not like ZnT did anything special, but at least it feels like a real story.
>>275254343most modern isekais are just generic rpg isekai garbageand the few that don't include game mechanics take themself too seriously
>>275254343ZnT was part of the Harem bubble. A barbaric lawless time of color wars and violent waifuism.
>>275252354The proto-isekai: A story where a fatso neet otaku gets truck'd, gets reincarnated by a goddess and given cheat skills in a 1:1 copy of DQ, he goes back to a teen and a handsome body, the Hero class in his status screen, then teams up with a harem of cute girls, a priestess and kingdom princess included to defeat a demon lord commanding the monster army, then after winning goes back to earth to being a wagecuck fatso again.The proto-villainess: A dungeon crawler persona-like where the MC is a peasant girl with extremely rare light element magic in a magic academy and cucks most of the important femoids in the kingdom (including the "villainess" that is betrothed to the crown prince) by resolving the personal and emotional problems of the 4-6 capture targets to get a reverse harem and get railed all night before going off to defeat the demon lord as the final boss of the game in the third year of school.The proto-shoelacer: A wagie isekaijin eventually ends up being part of the hero's party as a support with his CF, but gets kicked out of the party for not doing enough DPS despite him handling basically all the logistics of dungeon crawling and even inn reservations for the retards, then the party falls apart, the CF alongside his party try to attack him but he BTFOs them all and gets a harem of his own.The proto-huntershit: Modern current earth, but suddenly portals into "dungeons" appear and monsters start invading earth, then people all over the world start awakening to vidya classes and start fighting back against the monsters, timeskip like 5 years and now the dungeon crawling is a corpo bureaucratic dystopia where people would rather let stampedes happen than give up their copyright to a portal, and the MC is a rank F weakling cuck that accidentally finds a super secret powerup in some rando ass dungeon and becomes the strongest in the world bar none.How come the only one people can find 1:1 examples of is the gookshit one?
>>275252354WHY DOES HE GET TO HAVE SEX AND NOT ME!?!?SELF INSERTMARY SUEPOWER FANTASYITS NOT FAIR!!!!I HATE MC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>275253911>>275254343>yum i love blueball spineless excrement with zero character developmentdo redditors really?
>>275254983most anime fans are rom com addicts
>>275255021do they relate to zero relationship progress whatsoever and barely any cute scenes until it gets axed or something?and even then when the axe does happen you are lucky to get a mere kiss and for both tards to confess
>>275255021They are rom com/slice of life fags IN DENIAL.There's a big difference. There's nothing wrong with being a rom com or slice of life fag, but there is when they are going around throwing a fit because other genres exist when its painfully obvious that their preferred drama has been an infestation in anime for nearly 30 years.
>>275254091Kissu Shite Agenai~
it oozes soul
>>275255276My favorite part is when they spam "moeshitmoeshitmoeshitmoeshitmoeshit" but instantly turn around to slurp the FOTM romcom (komi, 5bun, russian bitch, kaguya, oshit no ko, etc) off the fucking floor.
>>275254983>blueball spineless excrement with zero character developmentSaito never puts up with Louise's shit until she abuses her familiar contract powers. He develops quite a lot, from wanting to return home to willing to give it all up and sacrificing his life for his friends. It's really annoying when some /v/ shitposter pretends he knows anything when in reality he's the biggest clown on this board.
>>275252354Still have no idea how this ends but I hope he gets a harem end.
>>275255622And it only takes like 3 seasons to get some progress.How wonderful.
He's a dumb faggot that needs to get away from my wife. I love this series so much and have comfy memories of watching it with the bros back in the day.
>>275255633It ends with crashing a stolen fighter jet into an ancient myth dragon
>>275255663>kiss in season 1Stop pretending you've watched it.
>>275252354He bitchmade
>>275255718and fuck all after that until well after the author died and someone else had to finish the novelwhy do redditors shill this shit?
>>275255727>still pretendingkys. You will never fit in.
>>275255746still waiting for you to post examples of all that relationship progress bro
>>275252661The same way Urusei Yatsura influenced the harem genre: the "successors" only adopted the general plot outlinebut completely avoided what made the original good in the first place.If ZnT came out post 2012:>Saito would be the legendary Void mage>Louise would be the slave/familiar>Saito would be the one inventing modern things, not Colbert>Louise would be a cuckquean who wouldn't mind Saito gaining a harem>Saito would join the Adventurer's Guild and fight (fuck) the demon king>Like >>275253509 said, tsunderes are a thing of the past. Louise would be an sweet moeblob who wouldn't dare push Saito's buttons too hard>Bro characters like Guiche and Julio would be reduced to nothing more than Saito's punching bagThere's probably more, but I got to get back to waging now.
>>275255473funny when OnK is among the worst crashes of the decade and we are not even halfway into said decade
>>275255857>>275254914
>>275255857>>Saito would be the legendary Void mageto this day no examples have been found of the proto-isekaiyou would have to go all the way to shoelacer slop where some rando ass utility skill like "empty area" grows up to that, but even then that's not isekai>>Louise would be the slave/familiarit's still comically common in dungeon master shit>>Saito would be the one inventing modern things, not Colbertin unironic isekai the only isekaijin that actually "invents" his own stuff (more like recreating, but westoids can't use words properly anymore) is hajimeeveryone else delegates to their underlings as the idea guy, which ironically enough makes ZnT generic in this regard>>Louise would be a cuckquean who wouldn't mind Saito gaining a hareminstead it remains a battle "harem" where there's no progress anywhere because it's actually monoslop >>Saito would join the Adventurer's Guild and fight (fuck) the demon kingto this day no examples have been found of the proto-isekai>>Like >>275253509 said, tsunderes are a thing of the past. Louise would be an sweet moeblob who wouldn't dare push Saito's buttons too hardthat would be an improvement because tsun shits are objectively bad writing>>Bro characters like Guiche and Julio would be reduced to nothing more than Saito's punching bagthey are tho
>>275255858It will never exceed haruhi in its infamy
>>275252354>Say something nice about him.No, he's a lying, cheating, piece of shit.
>>275256243it already did when normalgroids don't look back at older stuff unless ecelebs wank it to hell and backand EVEN THEN they would rather watch summaries and video essays than actually watch it
>>275252354Have you guys ever wondered why do so many isekai haters seemingly come from another timeline?It's because of recapslop giving people the wrong made up plot as a joke.
Rayearth came first though?
>>275256560Gayearth sucks ballz
>>275256560it is also a rightfully forgotten literal who that only video essayists remember because they need something to feel special with and legend of the galactic homos is too blatantly gay for their closet tranny tastes
>>275256379word of mouth has always been the prime marketing tool for anime. you're just mad that there are people who make money and get fame from it and you don't.
>>275256628>>275256833remake will be gud
>>275256402what the fuck is this abomination
>>275256402>recapslopWhat’s the point of this
>>275256560Looking forward to that
>>275258130normalfags don't watch/read shit anymorethey don't even watch video essays about it either. they just put the recap in the background and mindlessly half-listen to it while playing fortnite or genshin
>>275256560It doesn't matter because Rayearth didn't spawn a bunch of fanfiction on Narou.
I just want more anime with violent tsundere who actually commit acts of violence
>>275252354>firstanon...
>>275252354I really missed the time when shows were made without pandering to failed normalfags who are trying to escape from harsh reality into a self-inserting, "made-just-for-you" world.Rest in peace, Noboru-sensei.
>>275258263neither did ZnT given it's not even close to the proto-isekai meme
>>275258263>he fell for le narou fanfiction memelol
loli pantsu washer
>>275252354Isn't Inuyasha the first Isekai with a generic protagonist (Kagome)?
There was another harem anime where the creator died, the main girl was blonde but I can't remember the name
>>275258334The best part of Louise that she can be both a dom and a sub, depending on how you play your cards.
>>275252661ZnT fanfics pretty much created the modern genre. SAO actually predates ZnT but combine the two you get this
>>275255340cute webm
>>275253700Louise at the last part of the last novel. It should have been sooner. Maybe all three of them too.
>>275261340>ZnT fanfics pretty much created the modern genre.Unironically wonder from where does this meme come from.80% of the other proto-isekai memes come from a single sponsored westoid writing publisher video, but this I got no clue.As expected it's not even true when ZnT shares nothing in common with "modern" isekai (not even parody goysloppa) unless you stretch definition thin to the point of meaninglessness, and even then you still have to cope with "close enough".
>>275261877i heard gigguk say it in some anti-jp video of his but cant remember whereprobably not even who started it tho
>>275255697Wtf that's so wacky
>>275261877>>275262565It's because of recap slop.Somewhere around 2021 recap videos started to shift from actual recaps to "humorous" ones.And because westoids just can't keep anything in moderation, they easily overdid it until recaps became the new abridged parodies, except worse.And because westoids only watch the parodies and end up believing that's how the original was written (see DBZ, YGO, hellsing, etc) the result sticks.So now you have a generation raised not on anime but on regurgitated low effort excrement that is likely AI generated off the synopsis, character name list and a generic "E RANK HUNTER IS ACTUALLY THE SSS REGRESSED BULLIED STRONGEST THAT BECAME A GOD" prompt.
>>275262715I remember being livid at the season 4 ending. It still makes me mad today.
>>275261877Well there is an article on ANN from 2021 talking about it https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2021-03-19/mushoku-tensei-is-not-the-pioneer-of-isekai-web-novels-but/.170429
>>275264256>Isekai stories with video game-esque trappings were one of the dominant genres on Narō well before Rifujin na Magonote began posting the story in late 2012. ZNT DOESNT EVEN HAVE GAME ELEMENTSTHE FUCK IS THIS NIGGER GOING ON ABOUT?
>>275264256I actually opened the link he cites as a source:>That demographic has stuck with the site – 30% of users identify as female, according to the site's managers in a 2019 interview – but the overall perception has definitely shifted towards male-oriented novels. https://premium.kai-you.net/article/53It says fucking nothing about it being a fanfic site originally, just stuff about demographics and logistics on the site's operation.
>>275264256Actually no, I kept reading and it references an interview with the rezero author and he talks about the time he was really into ZnT fanfics.Apparently the ANN monkeys interpreted this as "once upon a time narou was literally nothing but ZnT fanfics".Holy shit every single time I think westoids can't get any dumber I get proven wrong.Also on that interview the rezero author admits to being a 10s newfag while maruyama admits to looking up to konosuba, damn.
>>275264980>LE SUBVERSIV retards come in>shit up the place>they create their own subgenre out of literal hallucinations>and proceed to ruin discourse overseas despite being clueless monkeysits actually impressive how much damage did the rezero and overlord author do to westoid discoursein japan pretty much only normalfags cared about their opinion and these days whatever they say hardly matters but westoids to this day hold their ignorant vomit as gospel
>>275264029good bait but there's no way these are real vids
This series was so fucking shit God himself decided to intervene by giving the author terminal cancer
