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Last thread: >>275358384
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>>275363154
Jojo kart game anyone?
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>Araki talks about his commuting experience
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>>275363248
The car TANK that
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>>275363248
>not my problem
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>>275363248
Kek, based Jotaro.
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>>275363248
>It's not a crime if no one saw you
My hero...
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>>275363212
Just so you know the clear power hierarchy here folks!
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>>275363285
Finally they are leaving the india shithole abd going to the civilized Pakistan, right?
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>>275363248
>Hit and run
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>>275363355
OH MY GOD
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>>275363248
Isn't the Pakistan-India border second to the Korean DMZ as one of the most dangerous places in the world
Would they really just let a bunch of japs and westerners through
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>>275363355
>wall of cow shit
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>two delinquants
>murderer and nazi collaborator
>pedophile rapist
I'm starting to think our Crusaders may not be all that righteous...
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>>275363399
that's just my kind of team.
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>>275363399
Jojo is a Neo Homeric tale
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>>275363399
MY HEROES
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>>275363457
My HEROES.
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>>275363457
LOOK FOR THE UGLY ONE JOSEPH
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>>275363248
Our hero?
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>>275363399
HEROES
>B-But...
HEROES
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Manga or anime, a lot of part 3 stand battles are still bad.
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>>275361580
I wonder of the logistics of him using hamon through the prosthesis. Unless the fingers have artificial veins that flow blood through them, he's incapable of using the fine tuned hamon, no? All he can do is full blast a forearm-ful of hamon into the metal of the arm otherwise.
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>>275363248
My HERO
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>>275363498
>JUST FUCKING KILL EVERYONE
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH THAT'S MY FUCKING PROTAGONIST
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>>275363248
Our hero...
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>>275363498
Jotaro status: STILL A GOOD BOY
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>>275363510
Jolyne...
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>>275363498
That's my FUCKING hero.
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>>275363498
Everyone's morals are quickly degrading
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>>275363498
>>275363536
BASED
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>>275363498
OUR HEROES
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>>275363536
>both Joseph and Polnareff looking ecstatic to have an excuse to beat up people
Are we SURE Dio is the bad guy here
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>>275363536
MY FUARKING HEROES
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>>275363536
Polnareff has the soul of a Joestar
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>>275363498
I just realized why I like the Crusaders so much, they're basically just a bunch of murderhobos
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>>275363570
He was right about the joestars. George was an asshole and jonathan only became good because of Dio
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>>275363572
KWAB
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>>275363597
Dio...
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>>275363498
>>275363536
OUR HEROES... SO GALLANT AND NOBLE...!
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>>275363498
this is why the Crusaders are still the best JoJo group 2 decades later
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>>275363557
India changes a man
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>>275363498
>>275363536
>casually assaulting innocent bystanders to find out who the stand user is
Our heroes?
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>>275343728
Doesn't matter, lots of stands in that same "type" don't have a form and it's a retarded arbitrary distinction you're doing. There's plenty of reason. Joseph does not need one nor does it suit his character. Being "spirited" means fuck all. He is not the powerful type he wasn't even the strongest main cast member of Part 2. And giving him a stronger stand runs the risk of overshadowing Jotaro going off the way Araki writes. Also you literally suggested that Hermit Purple would punch and be able to fight and defend itself like Kak and Avdol. Don't backtrack now and try to insist "dOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN PUNCH GHOST" when it literally does in this case. There is zero point in having a form if it's not going to do anything. Same reason Mariah and countless others don't have a spirit.
>Same one tentacle trick
You're being disingenuous. Lots of "one trick" stands can be used in creative ways and acting like he did the same trick and nothing more is dishonest. His tentacles were used in creative ways.
>>275343876
That was just Part 8 being retarded and arbitrarily including just a head that didn't do anything.
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>>275363604
EXIT our heroes
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>>275363498
Jonathan must be shaking his head up in Heaven.
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>>275363597
Calm down, Dio. George wasn't an asshole just because he was kind enough to give your shitty father another chance at life
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>>275363536
Kakyoin is a good boy
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>>275363498
>>275363536
This is Jonathan's legacy?
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>>275363640
>fleeing to pakistan
the driver? yup, bin laden.
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>>275363550
Part 6 has Sports Maxx, Mcqueen, and Gwess. Part 3 has at least a dozen terrible fights.
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>>275363744
>tracing Wile E Coyote
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>>275363735
part 3 got no bad parts. hating cool things dont make you interesting.
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>>275363781
Even Jotaro is afraid!
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>>275363781
THE CAR MAXED STEALTH
I REPEAT
THE CAR MAXED STEALTH
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>>275363498
>>275363536
The Crusaders did nothing wrong
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>>275363732
lel
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>>275363597
Dio did nothing wrong
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>>275363735
Even dark blue moon is better than these boring fest fights you cited
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>>275363735
Every fight in part 3 is better than fucking survivor and dragons dream
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>>275363572
Kek.
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>>275363875
>Punch ghost can't save us
It's over
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>>275363905
Dude...
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>>275363905
It's over...
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>>275363905
If only Avdol was here...
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>>275363875
Just flip the other car over or something, you can do more than punch it.
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>>275363905
what a retard
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>>275363905
Polnareff...
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>>275363941
KAKYOIN WITH THE ASSIST
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>>275363905
Joestar Group's average IQ just went down by a considerable amount.
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>>275363974
Mystery man
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>>275363974
>Mr. Joestar, please shut the fuck up and let me save your life.
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>>275363974
>SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU SENILE LITTLE BITCH
How did he get away with that?
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>>275363941
>>275363974
>>275364015
Kakyoin carries the Crusaders so hard.
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>>275364015
Jotaro is so cute when he's being autistic
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>Avdol dies
>Team morality and IQ immediately falls
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>>275363779
>no bad parts
Sun. last (You) you're getting out of me.
>>275363833
A bad fight's a bad fight. I don't care if you want to argue over what flavor of trash is a bit less repulsive.
>>275363872
Survivor was bullshit with how much punishment Westwood was able to take but the fight itself was interesting enough. Dragon's Dream was bad too though, I'll give you that.
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>>275364015
Sumo? Strong?
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>>275364015
Is Jotaro initiated?
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>>275364046
that's just the effect of staying in India
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>>275364015
RikishiGAWDs
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>>275364058
>Sun
Sun was great. Fuck off, tastelet.
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>>275363974
MY HERO
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>>275364117
extremely rare jotaro in the top left
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>>275364015
>>275364051
>>275364086
Sure okay
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>>275364117
Nice smile
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>>275364117
My HEROES committing MANSLAUGHTER
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>>275364117
Jotaro and Kayoin broing it up
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>>275364015
And people say kak is not a deserved jobro
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>>275364117
>top panels
Fujos are horny AF
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>>275364117
>A SMIRK? AAAIIIEEEE
t.david pro
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>>275364186
explaining your stand is the same as bejitas jobber thumb
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>>275364218
It's just good manners, dude.
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'member when Araki tried to give the Tarot Stands a thematically appropriate explanation to their name
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>>275364180
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>>275364204
Jotaro's a genius
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david really uglyfied jotaro and made him a door
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>>275364117
>not allowed to use your fists
Jotaro is initiated in the ways of ancient sumo.
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>>275364086
>Get in your car
>Punch it really hard
>Enjoy your oil-free ride
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>>275364290
They made everyone look older and too masculine in the anime
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>>275364325
>I guess he tried to make us hit the truck to fucking kill us
Wow, excellent reasoning skills, Joseph.
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>>275364375
ENTER
EVIL ASS RAPE CAR
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>>275364375
This would make a cool hotwheels toy.
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To be continued! See you tomorrow!
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>>275364440
Thanks OP
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>>275364440
thanks op.
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>>275364440
>>275364410
MY HERO is dead
Thanks OP
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>>275364410
>volume ends with Jotaro jobbing
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>>275364353
>>275364375
>villainity revealed
>time to morph ugly
Every single one?! Even the CAR!
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>>275364410
Only an autist would stare down a car for a strength contest.
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>>275364440
Thanks OP.
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>>275363457
Guy on the third panel looks like a Joestar with a pompadour No, that burnt slab of steak Josuke calls a haircut doesn't count as a pompadour
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>>275363630
>Being "spirited" has nothing to do with the manifestation of one's spirit.
Sure.
>There is zero point in having a form if it's not going to do anything.
I already said what it would do.
>disagreeing is disingenuous
distracted Gray Fly to catch him, distracted Lovers to catch him, distracted DIO to catch him. It's the same formula.
And why bother continuing to argue a whole day later if that's what you think? It's a waste of both our time.
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>from Polnareff's long awaited revenge to Polnareff wanting to fuck brown underage pussy while Joseph is fighting Araki's nerfs to the cast trying to murder everyone on sight to a fucking car boss fight
This series is going places.
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Avdol is dead...
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>>275364440
thanks for dumping
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>>275364440
Arigato... OP.
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>>275363498
>>275363536
any one of them coulda just punched the car or taken out the wheels at any point to disable it
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>>275364550
that is the "power" of the villian of the week formula, but its also kinda of its strength because it maximizes the potential for iconic moments
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>>275364536
WHAT DID YOU JUST FUCKING SAY
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>>275364550
What a bizarre adventure
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>>275364375
FUTURAMA TRACED IT
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>>275364560
Who's that? I'm too busy jerking off to indian porn
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Reminder Iggy is the worst character
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>>275364617
How many mangas are there that do the MOTW formula half as eclectic as Part 3, though? Is there any, even?
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>>275364668
Polnareff...
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>>275364691
Ice...
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Part 3 is getting a good laugh out of me
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>Iggy
Who?
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>>275364782
Iggy Koopa from Super Mario.
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>>275363674
>CLOSE UP A ROAD
Nice try on the English, Araki
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>>275364744
My hero
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Jotaro is cute in the manga
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>>275364914
manga holly...
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>>275363355
no but seriously, why are indians like this? What's the reason they are so fucking weird compared to other civilized countries?
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>>275364544
>Has nothing to do
Stands are arbitrarily distributed based on role. Some of the weakest "spirits" in the series have better stands than some of the literal Joestars. Joseph having a passive stand that forces him to think creatively suits him than any power type.
>What it would do
You wanted Joseph to defend himself more. Which defeats the point of his character and role in Stardust. A body punch ghost is retarded and doesn't suit Joseph's entire deal.
>Disagreeing is disingenuous
You're claiming Kak's competence and abilities, completely dismissing what he can do and insisting her did the same stuff over and over. Again, his range and way of distributing the tentacles worked differently and could be applied further. That's like saying Jotaro or Polnareff aren't impressive and "all they do is punch and stab".
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>>275365051
They are not civilized, they are barely a country, they are not human beings.
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>>275364806
>Both named after Iggy Pop
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>>275364290
The superior OVA design for N Geil and Darby episodes
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>>275365051
i guess in some parts of northern india there arent many trees, and you still need to fight the cold or cook the food.
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>>275365051
It's a weird mystery, indeed. "Bizarre" if you will.
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This volume made me realize Kak is the sleeper carry of the first half of part 3
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>>275360844
Nah. Them being inbred ass hell tightens it even further
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>>275365071
>Some of the weakest "spirits" in the series have better stands than some of the literal Joestars.
such as?
>Which defeats the point of his character and role in Stardust.
I don't see how being able to take a hit and having slightly better reach invalidates being the navigator as if that would allow him to curbstomp every opponent.
>his range and way of distributing the tentacles worked differently
It really didn't. It's not a complex stand.
>and could be applied further.
Kakyouin doesn't ever show that kind of emergent ability. You could speculate just based on how his stand works, but there's little to substantiate it in the story itself.
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>>275363498
why not just destroy his car?
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>>275365166
Not the biggest fan of the color choices, but it's a good Jotaro otherwise.
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>>275365413
Judgement and Rubber Soul are deadly despite the users being weak willed clowns. Wheel of Fortune blitzed Star Platinum despite the user being an utter clown that instantly begs. No loyalty or resolve to any cause just chasing after money. Literal hardened gangsters with blood lust have weaker stands than some of these guys.
>Take a hit and defend himself
Because that's not the point of Joseph. He's not supposed to be a traditional combatant that can defend himself the same way as Avdol and Kakyoin, it separates himself and further justifies why he doesn't get involved often.
>Doesn't ever show
False, he literally does show how versatile the stand is even if it's through support. He's clever to use the surroundings with his stand like any other character. Nor does Emerald Splash ever get the chance to be explored, we see the potential of it working perfectly in tandem with his tentacles to set crazy traps and could have all kinds of distance and meter control but he's always taken out or benched.
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>>275365584
Because they didn't know the car was a stand and thought he got out.
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>>275364375
>Man VS Car
>>275364410
>Man loses
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>>275364015
>>275364117
I'll say it again:
>there are "people" who think Jotaro is boring
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>>275364593
>>275365584
The Crusaders ain't into petty shit like that, if the guy is in front of them, beating him down is the natural course of action to take.
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>>275363498
Oh Jotaro, never change
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>>275365735
>Judgement
relies on the opponent being too dumb to realize it's a stand and has mid-tier firepower.
>Wheel of Fortune
barely a step above Judgement. Neither of these is besting multiple Joestar stands.
Rubber Soul sure but that's 1 outlier. Generally, stupid mooks get gimmick stands that work until they don't.
>He's not supposed to be a traditional combatant that can defend himself the same way as Avdol and Kakyoin
Joseph's offense was always about trickery and cunning, but he also had the sturdiness to take a lot of direct punishment. Reflecting that in his stand would not make him indistinguishable from the others.
>to set crazy traps and could have all kinds of distance and meter control
That's the issue. The exact shape of the trap might change, but it's still a spider web each time. That's the extent of what Kakyouin can do.
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>>275366488
>Mid tier fire power
It held itself far better than it should've against a combo of Magicians Red and Silver Chariot.
>Barely a step above Judgement
It literally shot bullets so fast that not even Star Platinum saw it coming. If not even SP could react lesser Joestar stands can't do shit. Especially when, again, some of the most resolved spirits got mid tier stands while jobbers like these guys have destructive stands with extreme firepower. And stands that just couldn't be stopped like that "stupid gimmick stand". Again, stands aren't given based on how spirited you are, it's arbitrary.
>Reflecting that in his stand
IT ALREADY DOES. Hermit Purple can get torn apart and Joseph's fine. It's a sturdy stand just not a strong one. Joseph's a cunning trickster at heart, he should not get a fucking punch ghost when he never uses brawn the same way as any Joestar not even in his prime. That's lazy and terrible design when he's not meant to be much of a combatant and just a tour guide.
>That's the extent of what he can do
You're speculating and insisting that's his limit when the story never says that. You're downplaying his capabilities and ability to adapt despite him being in an identical camp to Jotaro and Polnareff.
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>>275364440
Thanks OP! By the way, to those who asked last volume; I think Giorno is the one who fits the kid sidekick label by default in Part 5.
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>>275366898
That or Narancia, despite being older.
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>>275364778
It's one of my reasons on why I can never call it a bad part.
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>>275365584
the answer youre looking for is that one of them prolly woulda lost a hand or leg tryna punch/kick it seeing as how it can transmorgrify n shit
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>>275366738
>It held itself far better than it should've
That doesn't change the fact that it's trumped by most Joestar stands and anything else powerful. I doubt it could tank other types of damage like poison too.
>It literally shot bullets so fast that not even Star Platinum saw it coming.
It's still only as powerful as a bullet. Lots of stands can tank it and punish the way Jotaro did.
>Hermit Purple can get torn apart and Joseph's fine.
That's the worst part about it. Sturdiness and invulnerability aren't the same thing, not to mention its frailty and resulting inability to defend his physical body from incoming attacks.
>when the story never says that.
The story shows what he can do and I came to my conclusion based on those feats. You're overplaying those feats despite even your most imaginative ideas still conforming to the same constraints that already exist.
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>>275367392
You're intentionally missing the point. It's faster than a stand who's entire gimmick is its speed. It's not about if Joestar stands can beat it, the point it's that its more powerful than them which is objectively true.
>That's the worst part about it
Cope. Joseph is a unique combatant so he needs a unique stand than a generic punch ghost. You just have no imagination and get upset that Joseph gets a stand perfect for his role.
>Came to my conclusion
Nice headcanon. Doesn't change that Kakyoin is capable and got underutilized because Araki didn't want to write around his stand. Jotaro and Polnareff have similar constraints and still fight often.
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>>275367527
>the point it's that its more powerful than them which is objectively true.
goal post shift. You said these were better stands. 1 dimension out of several doesn't make for a better stand.
>[buzzword]
>[buzzword]
You can stop posting any time if you can't think of an argument.
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>>275364487
monster cars are cool though
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>>275363154
7th Stand User Autists:
You convinced me to play the game with the last threads.
It doesn't seem like there's a level cap.
Do any of you have a level guide so I don't accidentally grind my way into being OP or the other side, underlevel my party?
Like per location, what level is the 'intended' difficulty?
I'm level 8 while leaving Japan. Is that good, bad, ugly?
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>>275367667
No, I specified power from the very beginning. I even made a point of hardcore characters getting weaker stands despite having more spirit, proving my point that it's not about your spirit strength. A point you never acknowledged. It's a fact that stands are extremely arbitrary and based off plot.
>[Projection]
kek, again, Joseph got a stand perfect for his role. He is not the type to brute force shit so he doesn't get a brute force body stand just like Mariah and other characters. You've made it clear that you're just upset that your favorite character didn't get your favorite stand design. Joseph's entire character is being an outlier so he gets an outlier stand that fits his deceptive and "less traditional" status. Just accept it anon.
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>>275363498
Based. No act against DIO can possibly be wrong
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>>275363735
Don't shit talk sports maxx
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>>275363355
HEY JOE
I REMEMBER
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>>275363572
Honestly it would've been waaaaay funnier if he didn't have a stand
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>>275367828
>No, I specified power from the very beginning.
>"Some of the weakest "spirits" in the series have better stands than some of the literal Joestars."
>A point you never acknowledged.
If you want to actually elaborate rather than use it as a non-sequitur to defend a mediocre stand, go for it.
>[buzzword]
still waiting on those arguments. If smugposting is all you can do now, I have to say, I'm disappointed.
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>>275363905
french instinct just kicked
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>>275368070
>"Literal hardened gangsters with bloodlust have weaker stands than some of these guys"
Again, a wimp had a stand that could speed blitz Jotaro enough to knock him over yet a hardcore gang member got a way worse stand.
>"I-I'll just ignore your argument and descriptive reasoning and examples on Joseph. You're smugposting!"
ok, won't change that Joseph is not a brute force character so he doesn't get a brute force body stand. Let it go.
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>>275363248
My... hero?
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>>275368190
>a hardcore gang member
I'd ask who, but if you can only bring up a couple stands to prove your point in a series with hundreds, they don't amount to more than outliers assuming it's a good example.
>>"I-I'll just ignore your argument
Why are you quoting yourself?
I explained why Hermit Purple is a mismatch for Joseph and your response was "ur mad."
I pointed out Kakyouin's singular spider web approach and your response was yet another buzzword.
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So far, I'd only consider the puppet fight and the parasite on Joseph's arm fight to be bad. The rest have ranged from good to great.
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Sex with Anne(Manga)
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>>275368428
Coping with "outliers" is ridiculous. Jojo never officially says that your stand power is based on the strength of your spirit. You're using a headcanon and getting upset that it doesn't match reality.
>Why are you quoting yourself
That's what you're doing. You didn't explain anything, I explained why it perfectly fit his character and role, your response is just you saying that you don't like it. No wonder you miss the point of this series if you're genuinely this retarded. Again, you haven't given a single good reason why a generic shitty punch ghost on Joseph would work other than "it wouldn't affect that much!!!" which is a coping non-answer of a response.
Irrelevant. Jotaro does nothing but punch. Nor does Kakyoin have a singular web approach as it can be defensive and offensive. Set up traps, impale, or tie around a foe. That's objectively creative ways to use the stand. You're just being a dishonest retard AGAIN.
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>>275364015
No wonder Jotaro is so strong. He's initiated.
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>>275364290
They took out all of the sumo references... I will never forgive DavidPro!
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Jotaro isn't all that, his stand is only so strong because he inherited it from Dio/Jonathan
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>>275368867
Joseph wasn't all that, his hamon was only so strong because he inherited it from Jonathan.
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>>275368938
Jonathan wasn't all that, his hamon was only so strong because he inherited it from Baron Zeppeli.
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>>275363324
this is the second time he mentioned chai so quickly, he really must have liked it
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>>275367753
I wouldn't worry too much. You only really need to grind if you're going off the canon path, like if you're trying to beat some enemies in the boss battles and not in cutscenes. Game is a grind too though, I recommend leveling Kak and Joseph, they get good AOE attacks later on, Jotaro can get some nasty fights too so you'll want to make sure he isn't too far behind either. You'll know when it's time to grind because even normal encounters can fuck you up sometimes.
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>>275363154
Nena is a genuine 10/10, looks-wise.
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>>275368538
>Jojo never officially says that your stand power is based on the strength of your spirit.
It says the nature of your stand is based on your personality, which naturally extends to strength whether physically or with special abilities.
>You didn't explain anything
You didn't like my explanations, maybe you didn't even read them who knows. Hermit Purple snaps from most stand attacks and those snaps not transferring to Joseph is not remotely similar to him getting beat the fuck out and still moving.
Kakyouin repeats the same strategy. Having multiple variations doesn't make that untrue and any enemy who can tell what he's trying to do can shut it down before it's too late.
>you haven't given a single good reason why a generic shitty punch ghost on Joseph would work
never said punch ghost no matter how much you want to rage about it. Having a body would force his fights to be actual battles of wit instead of "stand enters body, run around town for 4 chapters while the user does little to nothing."
>impale
with a carefully placed tentacle web
>tie
even more basic than a web
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>>275365051
>why are indians like this? What's the reason they are so fucking weird compared to other civilized countries?
ever since the industrial revolution the country has been in a cycle of dragging behind then suddenly being introduced to a bunch of new cultural and technological standards, so a huge chunk of the population is still living centuries in the past culturally, fully engaging with superstitious and hyper religious shit because only the top 1% get to afford a "western" lifestyle
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>>275369079
I've noticed that people will hate 100 things about India, but find one thing that they can appreciate. I remember reading parts of an autobiography of Tamerlane and how he loathed the Indians he conquered for his empire, but managed to appreciate some of it's fruits; I think it was either mangos or melons.
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>>275369060
Baron Zeppeli wasn't all that, he only got involved with the mask because of his father.
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>>275368938
>>275369060
>>275369225
This is all true
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>>275364440
Thanks OP
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>>275364117
>>275364015
>>275364051
https://youtu.be/kgJzbSoiSyk?si=u__9G_G_VktLGo9U&t=61
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>>275369225
The Stone Mask wasn't all that, it only worked because of superior pillar man ingenuity. Part 1 is full of jobbers, except for Speedwagon, the God of Capitalism.
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>>275369153
>Which naturally extends to strength
That's your assumption.
>You didn't like explanation.
There was nothing there. Joseph is a cunning and not traditionally strong, giving him a traditional ghost is completely at odds for his style.
>Having a body
No it wouldn't. His fights were always battle of wit, retard, how he defeated and outdid Empress involved him using Hermit Purple in an impressive offensive way. A body adds literally fucking nothing but makes his combat more generic. Joseph does not fight like any Joestar giving him a generic body stand does not suit his character no matter how hard you cope. Especially when you literally did say punch ghost, you said he'd defend himself using his stand's punches.
>Tentacle web
It still proves that his stand is creative and offered more than enough for fights. But just like Avdol, he effectively got written off. Your logic is weak garbage since Jotaro and Polnareff fight identically in all fights.
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TEST
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>>275369541
The Pillar Men weren't all that, they died to someone who had a month's worth of training.
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>>275369674
Did it work?
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>>275370085
no...
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>>275363465
kek
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>>275369570
>assumption
You complained about me being disingenuous and now you're going to say something as obtuse as suggest strength isn't an aspect of personality?
>nothing
nope
>His fights were always battle of wit
Wrong again. Nena had him cornered just by dripping her blood and goading him, same for Mariah and Steely Dan.
>i-it still counts
nope
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>>275370055
The someone who had a month's worth of training wasn't all that, he inherited all his hamon from his dad.
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>>275370963
Stands are not made from how strong a character's spirit is. That's headcanon. Again, the stands do not have a specific distribution, just from plot roles.
>Nope
Yup
>Nena had him cornered
And guess what? Joseph outsmarted her, Mariah and Dan by using his stand and wits. Complaining that he gets troubled and cornered by new abilities being sprung on him is retarded. Joseph isn't invincible, retard.
>Nope
Yup
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>>275371917
>if I repeat myself enough times, it'll substitute for a rebuttal
nope
>Joseph outsmarted her, Mariah and Dan by using his stand and wits
Okay, so you don't know what a battle of wit is. It's a match that has not just one but both opponents continuously predicting one another's moves, countering them, and predicting the counters. All of Joseph's fights are him being presented with a problem to solve and making 1 counterplay that instantly defeats his opponent except Dan where he was even left without any way to fight lacking a body. There's always a lack of interaction which wouldn't have been possible with a stand body.
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>>275363285
>>275363324
Literal Scooby Doo tactics.
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>>275363744
>sorcerer reference
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>>275364004
the crusaders bounce between brilliance and retardation chapter by chapter
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>>275363905
Hon hon hon! ME SURRENDER!
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>>275366103
He's not boring, but Araki loves Polnareff more.
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>>275372223
You didn't make anything worth a different rebuttal. You just asked a stupid question and called me "obtuse" for not agreeing with your shit headcanon. Provide a source of stands coming from a personality and that they get their form/strength from a user's strength. Which is clearly not true as demonstrated in all parts, utter morons with weak wills get OP stands. The entire point of stands is that it gives any kind of opponent a way to fight even if they're not as resolved to the tier of Joestars or Zeppelis.
>Making 1 counterplay that defeats his opponent
That's how SDC battles go, retard. Every battle involves trying to figure out the stand then make a game winning counterplay. Joseph having a stand body or not doesn't make a difference, especially for Steely Dan when Joseph was the one in distress to give stakes. A body is completely out of place with the part and Joseph's character. You failed to provide any rebuttal to my point. Joseph is objectively not a brute force character, giving him a stand body to defend himself defeats the entire point of what Hermit Purple was meant to be used for. He does NOT "need a way to fight with a body", you just have a shitty narrow minded idea of stands and wanted your favorite character to get one. You sound like a power scaling obsessed retard.
>There's always a lack of interaction
And how the fuck is that a bad thing when Joseph isn't meant to be a typical combatant? He has to make up for the lack of interaction in other ways, which is exactly what he did in Battle Tendency. He was nowhere near as strong as his supporting characters and made up for it.
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>>275372772
>Provide a source of stands coming from a personality and that they get their form/strength from a user's strength.
https://jojowiki.com/Interview:JoJo_6251_(December_1993)
>I first decide on the Stand's abilities, and then I make the design something that doesn't stray too terribly far away from that.
This content comes from JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia (https://jojowiki.com), and must be attributed to its authors if you are using it on another wiki or web page, as specified in the license.
https://jojowiki.com/Stand
>Araki explains that Stand abilities are often the first element he thinks of when he creates a character, and that he then develops the character's personality and appearance based on the harmony with said Stand power.[52][55]
They're all connected and a stand is literally one's soul given form. If you're still going to pretend otherwise, I'm done. This is the most blatantly obvious shit for any reader/watcher.
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>>275373775
Your quote literally proves that Hermit Purple only worked as vines than a stand body since Araki thought of an ability and decided the vines were the best fit for Hermit Purple's form and power. Not only that, Araki himself believes that Joseph specifically had perfect harmony with vine-based Hermit Purple and its core ability than anything else. It suited his character more than any stand ever could, thanks for cementing my point anon.
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>>275373937
>Your quote proves Araki is never wrong or changes his mind about anything :^) (please forget all my numerous complaints about his perfection)
And now I know you'll stoop to transparent bad faith just to avoid admitting fault. Fuck off.
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>>275374172
>Asked you to prove your claim of stands' power and ability being based on respective strength of spirit
>Instead you provide a quote of Araki personally deciding how stands are tailor made for a user AND that Araki personally decides the form that best fits the ability and user.
>Directly proves my point that no other stand fits Joseph and that he's literally made in harmony with base HP
>Gets mad
>"W-WELL ARAKI COULD'VE CHANGED HIS MIND!!!!!"
>*Posts a completely different character in rage*
Holy mother of COPE! By the way, you clearly didn't read Jojolion. Fumi is nothing like Joseph as a character. They're different people and that "stand form" can only make a head. It's not a stand body punch ghost, retard. It's still primarily vines and does everything the same as regular Hermit Purple. It doesn't do any extra ability or action lol. Your narratives are trash. He didn't change it's mind.
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>>275363604
>beat up random civilians
>refuse to elaborate
>speed off towards the pakistani border
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>>275363498
>>275363536
Okuyasu traced this and somehow had more success
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>>275364353
We've gone from Duel to Christine.
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>>275358418
But Avdol is alive here.
So Kakyoin should be feeling a pulse.
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>>275361380
Yes. He's named after Paula Abdul, which is pronounced the same way as Avdol in Japanese.
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>>275358930
>Well, since they're gone, I might as well double tap Avdol, just to make sure he's dead.
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>>275359077
This was before Illuso awakened his stand, so Kakyoin is actually correct.
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Better late than never.
>>275362371
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>>275360062
So what would happen if Hanged Man was in your eye, and you closed it with nothing reflective in your line of sight?
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>>275360734
>bug bite on a tongue
Both of Araki's fetishes rolled into one.
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I'm warming up to Jotaro more in the manga compared to ages ago when I looked at the anime, but I still don't care for him, though I think I figured out why since that applies to everyone in the cast.
Even though this crew is always together and get a lot of time to fuck around and banter, I still don't feel like I really know who any of them are as human beings, so it falls flat.
Take the sumo bit. It's cute, but do I think Jotaro and Kakyoin would normally have that type of exchange? I dunno, maybe? They're so ill-defined; the only real concrete info about any of these guys is in their bios.
Part 5 isn't a masterclass in character writing either by any metric, but at least there I can occasionally crack a smile and feel something whenever party shenanigans occur, because I have a better idea of who everyone is.
Maybe I should just accept Jojo isn't for me, besides Part 4 and Part 7.
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>>275363285
>>275363324
Some Dick Dastardly shit
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>>275363498
>It's fine. We already know who the stand user is. This bar is full of smoke so I can see the vein on his nose.
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>>275364705
Most authors aren't as eclectic as Araki in general.
It's a strength and a weakness of his.
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>>275363905
Pol, you fucking retard.
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>>275326808
7 years of bad luck.
>>275330715
14 years.
>>275358701
21 years.
>>275359077
28 years.
I could've sworn he broke more mirrors in this arc.
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>>275376252
He's gonna be the death of someone one day.
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After done storytime Part 3 and Part 4, you should story time Hol Horse's bizarre adventure
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>>275363498
>>275363536
Could you imagine Jonathan's reaction to this?
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>>275376071
Jojo relies much on the charisma of the characters in the same way that moe anime relies on cute girls being cute and that's it. We can say they are like very unique archetypes from Araki's mind in that they are players in this bizarre piece. It feels like a theater or a fun B movie to pass the time, it's something to not give much thought about. So either people love or hate
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>>275376355
In some dark abandoned mansion in Cairo, a distinctly Victorian English scream resonates through the halls.



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