These 8 pieces of shit + Frieza for the third timeAt this point, the videotoys might have better villains. Why is it like this?
>>275399057bottom left are GOLD, everything else is senile MOLD.
>>275399079My Sakurako-sama... My precious jewel, the princess of my heart... I want to listen to your shy giggles as I kiss my way down your cute tummy, my Sakurako-sama...
>>275399079No you do NOT
>i-i MUST associate toyo and the manga with the horrible flop daima!!!! yes!!! that way toei is winning!end your life insect moro was a huge deal
Gigi.There you go, the hall are good again now.
>>275399057You know Shueisha will never let Toyotaro write the manga, they will put the writer of Heroes in charge of the writing, while Toyo just draws it.
>>275399135No they won’t. They promoted him to creator of dragon ball. Swallow that cum and accept its inside you forever
I still want my horror themed manga arc that was promised in 2022.
>>275399057Who is the best among these villains? For me it's Moro. The worst is Cell MAX by a huge margin.
>>275399057>Gray Hits>Green Buus>Watermelon CellGranolah and Moro are great, though. Gas is fine.
>>275399057>canon in Sparking ZeroNormalfaggots really don't know what canon means huh? What's next, canon in Xenoverse?
I look my age btw
>>275399174I'm sure you do, Cuckofuckosuckoturdotrannypaintshisnailsfaggoqueerohomotaro.
I'm so tired of Frieza.
>>275399135The SHARTroes manga dude literally got fired, they got a different dude to wrote Breakers.
I prefer shortstacks, honestly.
>>275399057Random giant rats and wooden ruler can solo those pathetic daipa tranny villains, dollar store majins and shitty robots btw.
>>275399224uh oh stinky!
>>275399224hell yeah
>>275399057>GanmasGag Toriyama antagonists>KuuDuuGag Toriyama antagonists>GranolahEdgelord Toyotaro villain>GasEdgelord Toyotaro villain>MoroEdgelord Toyotaro villain>Cell MaxSerious Toriyama villain
>>275399180Gas lost all respect as a villain after the piss incident.
>>275399133Great work!
>>275399217They will regret ending CHADroes, Which was the most popular aspect of modern DB. That one suit who decided on that must feel so shit now that Super Divers is flopping.
>>275399256He did not piss himself.
am truly grateful and full of respect for Dragon Ball Heroes for conveying the charm of Dragon Ball and nurturing me as a manga artist.>If there’s ever a chance for me to participate again in any form, I’d be delighted.>When that time comes, please allow me to give it my all and cooperate fullyLOL, so, they both will write the next manga arc, it's inevitable now.
Chi-Chi's age is 12-13, you retarded pedofreak.
>>275399224wow thanks for posting this generic fucking character normalfag shit every 65 IQ /v/tard shit taste furry dickhead has spammed for 20 years you worthless uninteresting cunt. i’m so glad I know what some fat faggot jerks his tiny cock off to, and that’s it’s the same milquetoast meme trend shit identical cringey unfunny boring nonces on his discord all love. just do us a favour and ppllllleaaaaseee keel over dead
>>275399258Wait... Gigi is THIS cute? You're telling me a man is cuter than any of the girls in DragonBall? What the fuck?
>>275399224I have two figures of her with a pudgy belly and fat ass in my room
>>275399057Reminder. The fraudstinct is out, and THE BEAST is in moving forward.
>lowercaps meltdownSee?
>>275399274He did and he got mocked by Moro's jobber minions. One of the most pathetic main villains.
>>275399291>PLEASE GIVE ME A JOB PLEASSSEEE>woah, this confirms he’s collabing on dbs!Delusional insect
In terms of official content dragon ball is dead, now it will only live on through fan works.
>>275399301Your parents must be super proud
>>275399297>shit taste furryShe's an imp
>gray Hits (the robots from Cuckofucko's fanfic)>gray Hits again (Gammas)>green Buus (Daipa villains)>goat Cell (Moro)>red Cell (Cell Max)>green Sasuke (forgot his name LOL)>... and whatever the blue guy with horns is
I'M GOING TO FUCK YOUR HERO IN THE 𝘼𝙎𝙎
>>275399296We all know you lost the argument and couldn’t answer a simple question. You pathetically trying to hope i’ve left and spam seetheposts into the void isn’t going to change what everyone plainly saw last thread. This is entirely self therapeutic so your gay little ego can recover and feel like it totally wasn’t just publicly raped and totally won.
>>275399057Dabura's daddy Abura will be appear in the flashback episode, and he will be a bara BEAR with a harem of demon twinks.
>>275399360>>green Sasuke (forgot his name LOL)grey* and his name was Jiren.
Imagine if you will, sticking your thumb in chi-chi's open mouth while she gets drool on it and she looks up at you blushing and whimpering just begging for more as she grabs and caresses your forearm.
>>275399191Canon for Sparking Zero is also Gohan saying that he’s “always aiming higher”, which is a blatant fucking lie even in Super Hero.
She really is Bulma's daughter...
>>275399391>Moeshitter having a melty because he didn't read Dragon BallIt feels good to win without trying.
>>275399411Imagine if you will, putting a Pipi pill into Chi-Chi's open mouth and then repeatedly yelling "Pi! Pi! Pi!" and hiding in the bushes as her entire intestinal contents erupts explosively out of her ass
>>275399232The robots were already memoryholed too.
DBS is honestly dead. Full on Toyo arc is gonna be pure fanfiction, he already sneakily "canonized" his AF waifu West Supreme Kai without even changing her an inch from how she was in the Z Anime.
>>275399412>"i refuse to get stronger to protect my family"THAT is canon gohan.
>>275399382>>275399382Calm down, Broly! You'll destroy the butthole!!
>>275399447Shut up fucking bitch piece of shit. Motherfucker rretard
>DBS is honestly dead. Full on Toyo arc is gonna be pure fanfiction, he already sneakily "canonized" his AF waifu West Supreme Kai without even changing her an inch from how she was in the Z Anime.
>>275399473Videl! Watch your mouth or Goten will stick his dick back in it!
>>275399135Heroes is a freaking fanfic, I hope not.
>>275399494Don't forget he is a Twitterroach.
>>275399460
>>275399057Top right is the result of SENILEyama’s immeasurable retardation produced by his massive brain tumor which he got after getting cucked by Jackie CHAD.
>>275399165Lol, as anon from Japan, let me school you real quick. Shueisha isn’t dumb enough to let some fanfic-tier artist control their big IPs, no matter how 'good' their art is. Just look at Boruto—everyone forgets that from 2016 to 2020, the writer wasn’t even Kishimoto. It was Ukyo Kodachi. Ikemoto was just the artist, and guess what? They didn’t let him touch the writing because Shueisha actually cares about their properties. When Kodachi left, they didn’t hesitate to bring Kishimoto back to take over the story. They don’t mess around when it comes to their brand.Now, for Dragon Ball Super, I’m not sure who they’ll pick to write it, whether it's the Super Dragon Ball Heroes guy or someone else, but one thing’s for sure: it won’t be Toyotaro. They’re not going to let an artist who can barely string together a sentence run the story. They’ll bring in a professional novelist with actual writing skills.
>Toriyama: 𝗔𝗜𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘𝗘 not 𝕋ℍ𝔼 ℂℍ𝔸𝔻 𝔽𝕆ℝℂ𝔼
Only one warrior can be a cuck; choose ONE warrior to be that cuck.
>>275399524He's so cool.
>>275399494KEK what a pathetic cuck.
>>275399232They are stuck in their shitty planet. They can't do anything.
You can really tell they ran out of decent villains for this franchise a while ago. I think Zamasu was their last original idea.
>>275399568Krillin.
They didn't run out of villains. They ran out of imagination. There is SO MUCH you can do with this universe. But these hacks can't figure it out. Smh... just baka...
The only good thing that came out of super hero was more pan art
>>275399600Moro would've been good if he stayed an old magic goat and if magic weren't just a tool used to increase ki for standard fighting we've already seen.
>>275399617
>>275399057why it's so unbelievably impossible to replicate what made the original DB run so special, even with Toriyama having direct creative input? I'm convinced that DB is the most extreme case of lightning in a bottle in manga history.
>>275399627Yeah but My Little Pony already did the whole magic goat thing and, frankly, I prefer Tirek.
>>275399556So what's japan's take on daima and boruto?
>>275399689Jiren.
Daipa is shit.
>>275399675Tirek vs twilight was better than goku vs moro
Something else that's totally lost on these writers is that context is a hugely important part of the battles. If you just skip to the fights, and don't set anything up, it's really boring.The Goku and Vegeta rematch in the Buu Saga, for example, was a grudge match several seasons in the making. Goku's final confrontation with Freeza was set up across multiple seasons, and all the context that went into it made it what it was.It's so hard to give a shit about anything in this franchise anymore. The setup is always rushed or barely matters and everything concludes as quickly as it began so why get invested?
>>275399395need to see his discharge big daddy cum leaking>>275399224ughhhh thiccceerrrrr!!!! pick up and impale the goblin short stack tomboy onahole!!!! anhhhhh i’m freaking hornnnnyyyyyy>>275399239mjhmmm sweatyyyyy thiiccc yessss horny horny big daddy cummmm
>>275399600Arinsu has potential but I know for sure that they won't deliver in the remaining six episodes.
>>275399699You are a person made of feces.
What's going on here?
FINE YOU KNOW WHAT? FUCKING FINE. YOU RETARDS WANT NEW VILLAINS YOU THINK I DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD IDEAS FOR VILLAINS? THEN WHY DON'T YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT COME UP WITH NEW VILLAINS THEN HUH? SEE HOW "easy" IT REALLY IS YOU FUCKING IDIOTS.
>>275399699So FUARKing TRUE!!!
>>275399494Don’t forget this >>275399556>dude i’m FROM japan and that’s somehow relevant to me knowing who worked on naruto which any google search will tell you>this MEANS toyo isn’t writing despite already making two successful arcs mostly on his own, being named the creator, and already being confirmed as continuing the manga next month You have fucking lost. I’m going to cream myself posting this screencap in a months time
>>275399617You don't even like DragonBall, you didn't even know Chi-Chi's age.
>>275399750Undead unFUARK is kino
>>275399617source fucking now hmmmnghh totslot totslot nurserysex hnngmhh
so sick of daipashit, and glad we're heading back to CHADper.
>>275399784I hope you fucking die Piccolopaco
>>275399771You got the wrong pedo
>>275399749No, the story is too far gone to come up with a reasonable villain. GoDs, Angels, UI, and everything that comes with it was introduced FAR too early. >>275399750>>275399762>literally and unequivocally one minute apartWarped.
>>275399716Oh yeah. The reason Dragon Ball and Z were good while Super and GT are so subpar is because they knew how to build shit up. Yeah, people laugh about Goku always being absent for the first half of a saga but that just makes it so exciting to see him and the big bad face off later.
>>275399797>Pan with breasts.You don't like Pan.
Yep, these are my fuarking heroes. If you don't like it, you can tongue my anus.
>>275399750The Fuukostacies are laughing at us again...
>>275399716Which is why Moro is the best, it's the only Super arc that doesn't last like a day or something
>>275399617Source I beg
>>275399830KILL YOUR FUCKING SELF GREEN PEDO
>>275399812My heroes... and jiren.
Everybody is trashing Daipa, but most of you anons, will probably shit, piss and cum yourselfs once they tease Janemba in the post-credit scene.
>>275399762to be honest, Toyo's goal is not draw better, it is to replicate Toriyama's art when he was at his peak (which he will never do)
>>275399811I like ALL versions of pan
>>275399849Janemba is a shitty villain.
>>275399617please post source
>>275399849So you want more slop where they bring back beloved characters instead of doing the hard work and making new characters? You and many others are what's wrong with Dragon Ball.
>>275399880I will fucking stomp your skull in Piccolobitch.
>>275399852>Toriyama's artHe clearly goes for Toei's style in late Z. Which is why it looks so different from the old manga.
>>275399896just post it. why post good art like that just to hoard it
>>275399880https://files.catbox.moe/z7ojvz.png
>>275399922I kneel to you thank you
>>275399856Based UKbro.
>>275399922Peak fucking age suck my cock like a pacifier like mommies teat babygirl fuaaarkk
>>275399666Maybe all of entertainment history.
>>275399917>>275399922>>275399940I'm going to fucking murder you worthless green pedo.
Fusion Reborn was terrible outside of Gogeta, let's be serious here
>>275399978One day you’ll admit you yearn for totslot and acceptance will come over you like a cool and calm wave. You’ll lay on your back and let it sift you back and forth in its gentle wake and just start smiling and laughing. No more need for anger, no more need for cope, you can just enjoy cunny
>>275399101That wasn't me, but HOMOgi is a fag.
>>275399443He did that with a lot of things in his bonus sketches, like Bejita Sr. attacking the Tuffles or Dodoria killing Bardock’s team
>>275399967>>275400002
Dragon Ball was terrible outside of Gogeta, let's be serious here
>>275400002One day I'll find you and break your fucking limbs.
0-3 mouth okay3-5 vaginal play and mouth play 5-10 anal vaginal mouth play toys
>>275400033I will assist.
>>275400062I would genuinely fight you in real life if I knew you wouldn’t be a little bitch and call the cops or bring a weapon. I’d fucking love to break your jaw
>>275399566k, b, c
AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE SUPER BROLY, HELP MEEEEEEE
>>275400033>Xhe ran
Ok girls, settle down. Everyone laughs when you try to sound tough online.Anyway, Gohan is a bitch and that's a fact.
>>275400101You'd get your shit pushed in because you're either a morbidly obese loser or a skinny little twig.
>>275399666It really shouldn't be. The problem is everyone trying to doesn't understand what made it work.The "lightning in a bottle" aspect was more that DB came at the end of the kung fu movie boom when everyone knew what it was referencing and loved it for that (similar to fighting games like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat). You couldn't do Street Fighter today because all the kung fu tropes got replaced by shonenshit and no one knows why characters do ki blasts or wear Chinese clothes (if they even still do)The thing that made Dragon Ball so cool was that it was pure kung fu power fantasy, and as a gag manga, it was very basic and cliche-driven so you didn't need any real explanation or lore, and that let fans and Toei fill in the gaps.
Zbroly > 1Zbroly
>>275399057I'd like to say that Gas is the least memorable main arc villain in DB as whole but the red ribbon nigger technically is the main villain of that arc so...
>>275399999Digits don't lie.
>>275400130I’m ottermode and svelte but i’m an amateur boxer. I would 100% wreck your fucking shit. I’d spark you out and jerk off to cunny over your face unironcially. I’d love to do it. If I could know you wouldn’t be a tricksy little coward bitch i’d tell you a time and place right now but you’re a pussy. I would fucking dismantle you
>>275399999what I find interesting is that Fusion Reborn was the first movie the writers actually tried to fit inside the canonical continuity but they fucked by showing Gohan in Earth when he should be training in the supreme kai planet by that point
>>275400116AAAAHHHHHHHE IS TOO STRONG Z BROLY. I NEED HELP TOO
>>275399849No I won’t. Toriyama canonization has never EVER improved a villain or concept. Just look at Minus, he made a worse Bardock in every way.
>>275400152The optional prequel is indeed forgettable.
>>275400176>JOBxerAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>275399716Good build up would need the villain to do something impactful against Goku. However, we already know that this franchise is too cowardly to even kill someone.We are not having something like Goku vs Piccolo Daimao, Goku vs Nappa and Goku vs Freeza ever again
I feel like embarrassing Toyotaro fans againLook at how awful his adaption of BoG's finale wasChapter 4: God and God
>>275399852Toyo replicates Toei's style, not Toriyama. As the other anon said >>275399916
>>275400152General Black is more memorable than that shitty Toyotaco OC, at least the doujin where he fucks blond Lunch is hot as fuck.
>Didn't see the movie? Fuck you - Toyohacko
>>275400207it was better done than the anime
>>275400207Why don’t you embarrass us by spamming more gay yaoi shit you’ve saved and posted all day on christmas day? That was super embarrassing. Or maybe more of your dogshit failed art. We’d get so embarrassed at that
>>275400176Oh yeah? Well I'm reverse walking tiger mode and suavemente. I would 405% fuck your dickhole wide open and shove my fist up it, then I would fuck hot sexy adult women all over your fucking GRAVE. Too bad you're a fat neo-vagina too scared to come fight me IRL because I would fucking pack you up, drive your bitch ass to Fedex and ship you to straight to hell.... see how retarded this is? You guys can stop now.
>>275399057>Granolah and Gas and MoroWhat is their relation to those shit designs and characters? I don't get it.
is there a more fraud transformation than shitstinct?
>>275400176Go into muay thai fellow cunny CHAD. It is the next step in boxing.
>>275400241>>275400227>>275400207nothing wrong with this
Im bored.Let's talk about and compare movie posters.which is better, for this movie: Lord Slug.Japan or US? I like the Jap one for having all the cast but the US one has the far better Goku.
>>275399318>minions>main villainsI remember when Cui was a pathetic main villain too
Reminder he had been drawing for 15 years by this point and still put out trash paneling like this
>>275400246i’m not joking. if we lived in the same city i would fight that clown
>I will assi-HMMMMMMMM HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Huh?
>>275400292This is an anonymous message board.
>>275400286I personally think Toyo only starts putting out semi decent art... by the most latest movie retread arc.He's just such an uninspired artist.
>>275399666The crazy status quo changes made the series what it was. GT, Super and Daima just feel meaningless in comparison to seeing a 5 year old grow into an adult jobber and an maniacal slaughterer turn into a family man.
>>275400292>boxerbitch thinks he'd do anything but get taken to the ground and scream for a referee that doesn't exist while he gets trapped in an arm bar and serenaded by the snap of his own bones
>>275400139Something else about DB, especially DBZ? >pure kung fu power fantasyExactly this, plus schadenfreude. So much other shonenshit tries its damnedest to avoid becoming overpowered and staying balanced. DB never did. Very second arc of the manga had Roshi blowing up the goddamn moon. DB's always been "we need to get stronger, so we get stronger" without any magic system balancing, and then fags get angry at this like most shonen doesn't already do that, and they also get angry that DB is more popular than their FOTM "balanced magic system" shonenshit because tards like us just want to see the musclemen blow up more shitAlso something else you could note is that it's a very "cathartic" sense of fighting.Everyone says 'I wish strategy and tactics and adventure came back.' Then it did in Daima and everyone except Kanz troons hates it.Everyone loves the beat downs instead.That's what makes DBZ so visceral: some full of himself piece of shit comes along and beats everyone up and mocks then for it. You feel fucking hopeless like there's no way to win.Then the hero comes in and starts taking them down, and he starts losing it and melting down. There's nothing more viscerally satisfying than breaking and bringing down some arrogant shitsack. A lot of other shows don't do that. They make the fights way more even and more something to do with "power of friendship" No sense of being the BVLL who comes in and finds the bully tormenting everyone and putting him on his knees crying like a little bitch that he wasn't supposed to lose like DBZ. Can you imagine something like Gohan 2-hit humiliating Cell in Naruto, One Piece, or Jujutsu Kaisen?
>>275399079homophobic is an oxymoron
>>275399999It wasn’t anything noteworthy plot-wise compared to the other movies, but the fights were the peak of the franchise. Despite more money being behind Dragon Ball these days, nothing in DBS or Daima has come close.
>>275400328This is probably the only part I like of this entire manga arc Admittedly cool....
Dragon Ball is fucking dogshit.
>>275400279Oh god... left is awful. It's like looking at a classic Mega-Man game case. Right mogs it hard and it's not close.
>>275400152>but the red ribbon nigger technically is the main villain of that arc so...The main villain of the arc was Red, not BlackFunny, gingers are so forgettable and useless that even blacks are more memorable.
>>275400345You wouldn’t get close enough little bitch. You’d be on the floor the second you were within my armspan. And you know it.
>>275400340Replace the fat bitch in the background with Jiren
>>275400327>GTGT actually killed off major characters, aged up the cast. And then had a definitive end. DBS/Daima is where the series loses any sense of being an actual narrative.
>>275400384>replace the fat bitch with another fat bitch
>>275400379Oh don't worry I'll dump a chapter from SH later to shut you up too
>>275400282I was talking about Gas.
>>275400394Gas isn't that small
I tink Duragon Boru Zetto get stale, so i get Toei to make Duragon Boru GT.You hate Duragon Boru GT and tink it fo rittre kids, so i forrow Duragon Boru Zetto and make Duragon Boru SupaOoooo but noooo now you hate SUPA . YOU ROVU GT NOW.WELL YOU DONTU KNOW WHATTU YOU RIKE!SO AT DIS JUMP FESTA I MAKE MORPHU WITH ORIGINAR DURAGON BORU GT CARRED DURAGON BORU DAIMAAND YOU DONTU RIKE DAIMA TOO. YOU ROVU GT AND SUPA NOW.WHAT DA FUCK DO YOU TINK YOU WANT!!!!?DATS WHY I MAKE DURAGON QUESTU AT REAST KIDS AND MANCHIRDREN WIRR ARWAYS RIKE IT!!
>barely even fights for a minute and is already tired
>>275400415Yeah sorry I read it quickly
>>275400348Yeah I gotta agree. Nappa beating up everyone and being unstoppable, only for Goku to come in and humiliate himRecoome literally making everyone his bitch, then Goku elbows him in the gut and that's itFrieza being way too fucking strong that nothing anyone did even came close, and then he actually gets hurt by Goku, and THEN the Super Saiyan transformationBejita wiping the smug grin off Android 19's fat assThat's all good shit. I think villain writing is also trying to avoid "pure evil and narcissistic" these days, which also makes it harder to pull off in modern anime
>>275400383>he thinks his piddly little pokes matter when he's getting leg kicked every single time he tries to close the distanceWhat do you think has greater reach, a punch or a kick? Stupid JOBxerBITCH. Need a bunch of pussy rules to keep you safe. >AIIIIIIEEEEEEE NO DON'T HIT ME ANYWHERE BUT IN THE HEAD OR THE CHEST DON'T KICK DON'T GRAPPLE AIIIIEEEE YOU'RE TOO CLOSE BACK UP AND STAND STILL SO I CAN HIT YOUKEK. Literal ballerina WWE shit.
>>275400417You think I give a FUCK about Toyosharto's headcanon characters?
>>275400403nobody cares since you got exposed as a homosexual who saves and spams trap art on here. you’re objectively a plague on the halls and a degenerate queer bitch
>>275400348People should really read/watch more chinese kung fu/wuxia shit in order to get that insane energy prime DB could have.
>>275400363True. Dragon Ball Z is far better.
Yamoshi bros...
>>275400425No problem.
Oh shit, a DBS dump. Let's see what Toriyama's jester tryharded back then.
>>275400440>leg kickedBwahhaha his little gaylord trying to kick at me like a ballerina, that’s a sight i’d love to see. Your stupid kung fu kicks won’t do shit against a man bodying you in one hook. You are a larping bitch.
>Movie and Anime Beerus plays it off to save face >Toyo Beerus "WAKU WAKU YOU WERE STRONG SO I'LL LET YOU LIVE SUGOIIIIII!"
>not dumping AF which has the funniest toyo panels
Uh..waitWAIT WHAT
>>275400517That makes more sense. Why would a god be insecure
>>275400300What happened to Goku driving enemies off populated centers to fight in wastelands?
>>275400541>Toyo doesn't even fucking know the basic lore OH NONONONONONONO
>>275400541>>275400517>criticising the writing Toriyama literally have corrective notes. He signed off on all this and was more personally involved in it than the anime.
>>275400544He’s just a (former) mortal with a 9 to 5 job
>>275400348>Then it did in DaimaDaima suffers because Toriyama cannot write without an editor tard wrangling him.
>>275400384
>>275400116Look at that MASSIVE back.
Why did we ever pretend Super was good?
Who's the strongest?
BoG was so fucking rushed in the manga that it's more of a recap than anything
>>275400517So he didn't even stop planning to destroy one of the few planets with intelligence back then. Zku would have actually murdered this petty manchild no matter what.
>Shartoeifag having another meltdown because he can't get over his cancelled fanficFunny.
>>275400587Whis’ Dad
>>275400583Parts of ToP and Future Trunks actually are fun, but yeah, most of it is boring filler.
Damn...so that was the power of Toyotaro's introduction arc...Look at how much he impro-Chang-He still exists
>>275400587Duh.
post maron
>>275400583Some twitter using bitch were throwing a fit because people liked the manga more than the anime. That's how we got here.
>>275400618
>>275400551>What happened to Goku driving enemies off populated centers to fight in wastelands?Buu happened.
>>275400604That's the end of thatWhat's another funny chapter to dump to make fun of Toyo
>>275400506>N-NO U!Pathetic JOBxer cuck, you've never felt a front kick or a leg kick, have you? You have no idea what it's even like to face something like that. You're completely out of range for one of your little faggy punches. Holy FUCK, I can't believe people considering JOBxing a real fighting style.
>>275400625Mexican people, maybe
>>275400630Dump the first chapter of AF
>>275400630The part of AF in the beginning where Frieza cries for his mom
>>275400630Frost Vs Goku
>>275400627I want to live inside of that ass.
>>275400629>Some of those people were either killed by some of the prior villains and will never be brought back
>>275400651>>275400654I never read AF so I'll have to hold off on that>>275400655Sure, give me a min
>>275400634I'm being serious, people liked the manga more than anime until some schizo had a 10-year meltdown. Looking back on that era is fucking crazy.
>>275400691The dump reverted that, nobody cares about the RETCONNEDnime anymore.
>>275399791>I can rest easySo why did he adopt pajuub
CHADhan will save this dying franchise from that scat flop trash.
>"this is the process, i draw the draft and then send it to toriyama, he checks it and sends his feedback">multiple examples of things toriyama corrected in the story (like marcarita and belmod being lovers)>designs toriyama changed (Zamasu)>panels toriyama redrew (pic related)>dialogue toriyama added (pic related)>specific instructions toriyama gave ("draw goku looking bored here")>NONONONO IT CAN'T BE TOYO IS LYING!!! HE'S LYING REEEEEEE
>>275400655Apologies, my source is fucked with some shitty Chinese meme, I only have ToP and up after BoGI'll have to dump one of those but I'll make it up to you another day.
>>275400745It's fine, anon. Don't worry about it.
July 2019...
>>275400736Toyotaro's draft was cooler, wtfDoes Toriyama just change shit out of ego? I guess Bardock and Broly makes me believe that yes, definitely
>>275400736I don't even know what's true anymore.
>>275400767I honestly do think ToP is the arc where a lot of Toriyama's corrections just don't look particularly good.
>>275400348>Everyone says 'I wish strategy and tactics and adventure came back.Daima has done neither of these things.
>BITCHxer ranAbout all they're good at, as shown by their heroes Faggot Gayweather and Muhammudslime AlOSER.
>>275400727BLACKza snaps Gohan’s bitch neck and conquers Earth, forcing UIE Vegeto to step in
Certain storytimes should be yearly traditions
>>275399057We love Kuu and Duu here.
Holy FUARK I love GODotaro's OPUS so much.
I like Clean God
Here's a fun chapter I guess, then I'm out Chapter 60: Merus' Miscalculation
>>275400773Toriyama was already senile at that point, almost every decision that he made in the 21st century was a mistake.
>>275400844Trunks is fucking Clean GOD.
>>275399791I thought Goku didn't give a shit about saving the Earth and only liked fighting?
>>275399232why are you obsessed with trannies?
>>275400736>turned the interesting dwarf planet tournament scenery into a generic rocky wastelandWhat the fuck was his problem?
>MerusWho the FUCK is that?
Fart
The way Toyo shows power is so unimpressive. If you read this without any context, you'd unironically think Saiyan Arc Vegeta is stronger than Moro.
This is so fucking stupid lmaoAura has never worked like this in DB before why did he do this
Clean God scrubbed Mai's fallopian tubes while Trunks was failing his math test.
>>275400876>>275400893FUCKING START ALREADY
>>275400919I came
>>275400874The same reason why he made three Planet Nameks.
>>275400922HOLY speedlines. But where's the impact? What actually implies Goku's kiai shout was strong enough to blow Moro away?
>>275400874I'm so glad this fraud is dead and can't hold Toyo back anymore.
>>275400874It's a little strange putting the ring on a planet so tiny it looks like it can be destroyed very easily.
>>275400938>I told SHARToei to trace planet Namek for my scat nuDB slopKek.
>>275400876>auras clashing I remember when Super Saiyan 2 Gohan and Super Perfect Cell did that in the anime.
Wait what they're suddenly on the ground?
My hero.
You can say the shit that you want, this would look sick as fuck animated.
>>275400987Goku was kicking him towards the ground last page you RETARD
>>275400947>transitions in one panel to the kick near the hand area to an elbow strike to the chestToyo...
>>275400995paco...
>>275401026>actually doing the waza da
>>275400736>"draw goku looking bored here")Seems legit
>year's 2025>reading mangastream's translations and getting mad about it
>>275401055>ViZNo thanks
>>275401026Those ki blasts look hilariously weak. What is Goku using, a peashooter?
>>275401069Then stop bitching about wrong translations.
>>275401072That explains why Super was so badly animated
>>275401072I can't hate Toyo as a person, he does seem rather humble about it.
>>275401049Why is Goku's head so tucked in>>275401069My eyes are jobbing all these goddamn speedlines.
>>275401072This interview is from the alternative universe where Super returned in July 2019.
>>275400995Yup. But instead RETARDoei set all that money on fire with SENILEyama's toddler show.
>>275401088>viz No thanks
>>275399308Gohan looks great in purple
>>275400713He kinda made the pose less dynamic and the proportions and anatomy more fucked up
Toyotaro is SHIT.
>>275401026
>>275401103>FORMToyofags I thought you guys swore UI was a technique KEK
>>275401103Well have the others help him, then!
>>275401126>Angels use UI as a technique>Tardku used UI as a form and wondered why he jobsTry to keep up, Toeinsect. It's not that hard to follow along.
>>275401123>>275401137This is another thing: Toyo has to chill with the angular panels.
>>275401026Kakarot you fuck, that's trademarked!
Toyo's manga is so fucking good.
>>275401139The others are too weak to help and they would get vaporized by Moro's aura.
>>275401191>
>>275401094> Toriyama: Don't be so hard on yourself! [Lying Through Teeth]He was sabotaging this series
>>275401114Yep yep YEP. Fenyo and Kakeru mog him unbelievably hard. Granted I've never seen their paneling but it can't be worse than fucko's. They clearly have better artistic sense.
>>275401158The cat said Angels were always in the Instinct STATE though
>>275401232>massive hands
Moro is so genericI can remember all of the stuff Freeza and Cell and Buu did and said while beating up their opponents Moro is just blank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMftPW4Mhe0Future Goku brought by Baba to save Gohan right before he died.
>>275401277>what is perspectiveToyo, is that you?
Moro fighting like every single martial artist under the sun is so bizarre. He's not even Cellro yet, why did the fun spells from his first fight disappear?
>>275401306Because Toyofucko is shit.
Goku feels dumb here
>>275401306I guess because he’s young now.
>>275401288>English dub>video title in Chinese>video description in Spanish
>>275400989The darkest timeline....
>>275401342"Goku fighting worse than his teenage self" is definitely my least favorite aspect of Super.
Why is this better than everything in Daima?
I'll admit I do like this bit of Beerus and Whis reminding Merus' what their roles are meant to be...even though they immediately go back on it later on
>>275401303>using the same tactic as ToyofagsIronic.
>We could have had cool and fun fights but we got diaper insteadI hope Iyoku kills himself after he gets tortured by the Toei shareholders.
SSBros…UltimateCHADS are laughing at us..
This manga isn't very good.
>>275401306He's literally stated to also be a capable fighter, why are Shartoeitards so bad at reading? Did all that shitty animation from the cancellednime fry their brains?
>>275401397Have you guys noticed you can tell what panels Toyo just straight up traced from the movie because they look 3D in a sense of depth and which shitty flat 2D ones he did on his own
who has the best reaction face in Dragonball?for eating hot food.
>>275401386So Majin Buu killing almost every Kaioshin as well as being so bad to prompt deific intervention from almost every otherworldly entity is natural, Whis you enabling cuck?
>>275401395Iyoku will be captured by the Mexican cartels and be skinned alive with a dull potato peeler for getting Dragon Ball to flop.
>>275401026Taco wouldn't have to draw so many panels to convey a scene if he stopped covering everything with fucking speedlines. I can't see shit.
If Dragon Ball Super was an isekai it would be called: "I was reincarnated into a universe where lives the strongest character that could possibly ever be conceived and now i am his biggest fan??!!!"
>>275401395>the "cool" fights we could have had
>>275401412The ground? TANKED THAT.
Oh yeah the AndroidsThey exist too
>>275401026T-REXARMSku
>>275401479
>>275401472Goku should have taught them fusion
FUCK NOT LIKE THIS ULTRA INSTINCT BROS
>>275401443My hero.
>>275401468I'm so glad the SHITnime got cancelled.
>>275401479Why did Shinji jack off on her?
>>275401526>Form that encourages dodging>Goku never dodges
>>275401397>>275401526Yup, Yup! godshit KNEES to the Ultimate path.
Wait, I haven't read Moro in years but isn't Moro's ki sensible to regular people? Why didn't Bejita just...lock on to that earlier to IT?
>>275401555He was sexually repressed and alone because his friends all left or died
>>275401556Shut up fuck. Foul pig. Fucking retard.
>>275401538Yeah SHARTma couldn't even get 24 episodes lmao.
>>275401395>We could have had cool and fun fightsThe "cool and fun" fights:
>>275401624
>>275401646>top panelsfucking kek
>>275401669
The score doesn't get proclaimed anymore these days.
Sparking Zero lost.Toyo won.
Moro has a bunch of retarded shit but it's easily the best post-revival materialt. avoided Super for the longest time and only recently gave it a go
>pro-Toyo thread>thread quality skyrocketsYUP YUP
Booble Dooble. Pigwiggle. Snorkelflaf. Grumpleskrumple.
>>275401555I like to think it was a compliment but I'm not really sure how she feels about it
>>275401599>AIIEEEEEEEE I begged so hard for nothing!!
I LOVE battles where majority of the cast sits on the sidelines because they're worthless
>>275401706True, that's why Cell and Buu fucking SUCK/
ENTER
>>275401733People really thought Bejita was going to win this arc, kek.
>>275401746
>>275401733Gokek never felt safer in his pathetic cuck life.
>>275401756Oh no no no here it comes
>Bejita arrives>Insults opponent>Shows off new power>???>JobsA tale as old as time
AY CARAMBA I FORGOT HE DOES THE THUMB POSE TOO>People actually thought he had a chance
I'll call this THE BEAST ONE TAP SPECIAL.
>>275401756Is this the first time 18 & Vegeta have talked or addressed one another ever since that arm break incident? plus that cell thing.
>>275401775What the fuck is top left panel coming from, Bejita, you still-going-to-hell-no-matter-what fucking hypocrite?
Moro's reign will unfortunately have to wait I might do the next one tomorrow if I feel like it.I hate Toyo.
>>275400139Dragonball wasn't "lightning in the bottle" in the sense that only it could do what it did and get away with it, but rather that it did what it did when few other anime and media was doing that.A lot came close, like Fist of the North Star and Yu Yu HakushoAnd some Chinese and Korean manhua did the same thing, but never broke out of their countries. Chinese comics would have all the same stuff as Dragonball, but it took until webnovels blew up for anyone outside of China to care.Fist of the North Star, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, King of Fighters, Yu Yu Hakusho, they all have superhuman martial artists throwing ki blasts and superspeed attacks, but Dragonball went balls to the wall with the level of power and surpassed all of their feats within a few chapters and kept on going. Its like "would you rather watch firecrackers and hand grenades, or MOABs and nukes?" No one wants to do that anymore because of how stupid power levels get after a while and that's seen as a bad thing, and everyone who does are usually hackfraud fanfiction writers saying "Actually my OC can beat Goku Prime One Million"
>>275399057No but seriously bros...Who can beat him?Its been over 40 years and he has NEVER experienced defeat.How does he do it? How is he that STRONG?
>>275401803Actually yeahThey didn't even acknowledge each other at the Buu Tournament
>>275401816...during opposite day.
>>275401706Lazuli is a lump of steel
Just turn every cuckman an Android at this point, man. They can afford to be lazy motherfuckers and never stagnate, too.
>>275401854That's cheating.
BRING ME MORO
>>275401849
>>275401868Why is he white
>>275401706>DarnI am traumatized by 10+ years of English Dubcuckery so whenever I see that word, I just think back to 90s/2000s Dragon ball and its inability to swearYou'd still have dismemberment and shattered bones, but they're talking like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Swat Kats"Curses!""Darn you!""I'll destroy you!""Darn it!"
>>275401869the real time version of SS Goku vs Frieza too.
>>275401888You can't just ask people that, Christ.
>>275401789no one did
>>275401864No one besides Tien even bothers to train anymore.
>>275400139I'd like to add onto this and echo something I saw someone else post They said Dragon Ball has a type of cynicism to it. Modern Shonen loves to over explain and be as emotional as possible with its characters. Like Deku from MHA crying all the time and expressing his feelings and stuff. Dragon Ball was never like that. The characters rarely cried, and if they did it wasn't sloppy and trying to focus on it, they expressed themselves in a way that felt realistic and almost like the story said "This isn't important, we're moving on" which really helped to those moments when shit did hit the fan like pic related. That shit feels real but if it was any other Shonen they'd do an entire chapter with monologues about how much they'll miss each other
>>275401869Why did Toriyama do this?
Daipa keeps getting mogged by literal who moeshit btw.
>>275401869It's incredible how short and unsatisfying this fight was in the mangaIt's even more incredible that even though it's several seconds long in the anime, it's not any more satisfyingBack in the day, I actually forgot these two fought here. I knew Majin Bejita happened and killed a bunch of people, and then he sacrificed himself, but I couldn't recall him fighting Goku at all outside of him slapping Goku's faceWhereas I can recall every beat of their original fight
>>275401366Kek
>>275401869>Monkey ballet
>>275401934Toriyama was always looking to move the story forward, there's a shocking lack of flashbacks in the manga in general
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qcCwXFuU0Ec&pp=ygUdZ29rdSBhbmQgY2hpY2hpIHRvIHRoZSByZXNjdWU%3D
>>275401869KekIt's almost like Toriyama said "Oh you want a rematch? Fine fuck you here it is"
>>275401963This is how men do ballet
>>275401869
>>275401995https://youtube.com/watch?v=P1RKdfz6fU0&pp=ygUWTWFqaW4gdmVnZXRhIGthaSB0aGVtZQ%3D%3D
Yamoshi will defeat Black Freeza.
>>275401733lmfao
>>275401963>Cell Manga looked beautiful but the anime looked like shit>Buu Manga looked like shit but the anime looked beautiful Poetry
>>275401934I wouldn't call it cynicism (though there's a lot of that in DB)It's more that most shonenshit is full of melodrama because it's aiming to appeal to angsty hormonal teenagers who think sad backstories and flashbacks to past pain = great, deep writing>picrel
>>275401934I wouldn't say cynicism, there were some genuine moments of love and friendship there and there. It's just concise dialogue and fast paneling with a mix of DB's inherent gag manga spirit. Even in Trunks' destroyed future, there were some bits of humor shown.
>>275402022I still can't believe he did thisThat's some disrespectful shit in Japan kek
>>275402038Naruto is fine, there are way way worse ""fan""bases
>>275401977UI lost that fight.
>>275402041>The beating was so bad it skips itFucking kek
>>275401947>Beaten by The Apothecary diaries and Dr slopKEKAROOO
Oh my Goku I just SHARTED my fucking PAJAMA PANTS
>>275402018
>>275402084Exactly, see? That's definitely something from Dr. Slump.
>>275402020Yamoshi is a dropped plotline.
>>275402079https://youtube.com/watch?v=47ZUCkEZ_O4&pp=ygUNVmVnZXRhIHBpYW5vIA%3D%3D
>>275402038That copypasta is my explanation for why I never quite felt Linkin Park and Three Days Grace AMVs fit Dragon Ball Z the same way they fit Naruto and BleachWhenever I saw a AMV about Gohan or Bejita set to Linkin Park's Numb or In the End, it felt more like the creator was a fan of the music because the actual show was nowhere sappy and melodramatic enough to make it fitBut slap that shit onto Naruto and all of a sudden you'd think Kishimoto literally collaborated with Chester Bennington and Mike Shinoda > Shinoda even knows ithttps://www.tiktok.com/@linkinparkmylife/video/7198693560420551941?lang=en
DAIMA dub is goated
>>275402084That's the jokeThe manga is a comedyThe anime adaptation didn't get the joke and made it dramatic insteadNot surprisingly, everyone prefers the anime
>burori-dono please don't clot- AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEE
>>275402028This is a legitimate problem with manga who go really hard on high art quality - makes it way harder to do a decent anime if the manga art is exceptional
>>275401947>SHARTma still flopping Yup yup.
>>275402147
>>275402103>>275402140Don't forget this classic tooAnd the anime decides to ruin it with an uninteresting fight that nobody even remembers
>>275402082
>>275402153Berserk.jpg
>>275402169Broly would have folded to that fish lipped faggot.
>>275402181Kaio printing his school sign on Goku without him realizing is sudden and fun, too.
>>275401947What a fucking disaster, hopefully they never try this adventure shit ever again after this giga flop.
>>275402196cute gorl
>>275402115...woah.
>>275402248
>>275402140But even the manga had drama, too. Krillin had died, a demon was on the loose that made Roshi himself shit his pants, and to top it off and not even 3 chapters in, Flying Nimbus was killed, too.
>>275402291Wowsers...
>>275402259Holy shit!
>>275402328Luffy... you've really grown up.
>>275402338
>>275402328Needs a QoS tattoo
>>275402352He would do anything for his cute girlfriend.
>>275402328
>>275402328...Hear me out.
>>275402328I like where this is going.
>>275402328Luffy!
>>275402328Boa Hancock is lucky with her futa cock...
Goku.
Is.
who the fuck is Goku? we only know Golu here.
Our.
>>275402291It's dramatic but they control their emotionsGoku doesn't spend the next 9 chapters depressed and crying, he gets up and gets going. I admire that spirit
Cuck.
I thought I’d air out the Demon Realm a bit…
Time to use instant transmission >>275402639>>275402639>>275402639
>>275402328Shanks is so lucky.
